Why do so many millennialist still live with their parents?
this thread has been done to death.
-ridiculus cost of housing
-no good women to shack up with
-shit job security
-shit wages
-shit everything
>hurr i need my own place to be a man
next question
>>80538835
Good luck buying a fucking house nowadays. Even renting shitty apartments in major cities is too expensive.
Because she's a paranoid lunatic that can't leave the house but still has custody over my little brother and sister.
Pretty sure she'd just choke them out in her sleep if she was left alone with them.
>>80539285
that escalated quickly
because boomers refuse to work
There's no reason not to.
I have no incentive to move out. Not getting a gf, not reproducing. The fuck am I in a rush for?
>>80539066
but everyone else has their own place faggot ;P u lose
>>80538835
No jobs
Globalization
Housing market Overpriced shit
>>80539066
Or maybe it's because your generation is entitled little shitstains who don't want to do honest work?
>>80538835
I would humbly add that the average (middle class) american leaves house earlier than other countries. Mainly talking about higher education types here.
Which is admittedly pretty cool.
In other places, money issues and higher education available closer to home might make you stay home.
(you can always bang your girl in the car or a motel)
>>80539285
>she'd kill your two competing siblings
>she'd literally triple your inheritance FOR FREE
nigger get out
>>80539752
i never said i dont have my own place. ive been paying a ridiculous mortgage for 5 years and regret it with every fiber of my being.
>>80539856
>i have to work honestly while others don't
lolno
>>80539285
nice excuse
i'm 27 and still live at home
i barely work enough hours at this shitty job making 12.50 an hour
please kill me
>>80539932
I'm guessing you've never held a job in your life, huh kiddo?
>really hard to find good work without degree
>still moderately hard to find good work with degree
>cheapest studio apartments round here are like $750/month
>obviously that doesn't include living expenses
>ya fucked
>>80540132
750 is a score bro it's $1200 for a studio out here in LA and still in kinda ghetto areas !
>>80539930
obviously not boring enough for you not to take time out of your busy playboy schedule to post here.
>>80538835
i moved back at 21 after my roomate got into trouble with drug dealers and caused alot of damage to the apartment. we lived in a ghetto for $1800 a month
>>80538835
BECAUSE THEYRE FUCKING STUPID!!!
>>80539890
That's the thing about American girls. They hate banging in a car. They think it's trashy. If they're feeling good maybe you'll get a BJ.
Bed of a pickup truck is the exception.
Burger bitches expect you to have your own place.
I lived on my own for 5 years, but moved bac k in with my mother.
There's not really any difference unless your parents are bothersome.
>>80540286
-t. Brexit remain voter
>>80540195
>living in LA
I have found your problem anon
I don't know how any 20-somethings move out down there.
>>80539856
Been looking for any sort of work for months now, there's nothing in New York.
and if I did find something, it'll be minimum wage, which couldn't get me a fucking cardboard box in a yard.
>>80539856
Doesn't matter, it's your job to foot the bill.
Pay me bitch I need my neet buks AND I NEED THEM NOW! Don't worry I'll give you an hour for lunch on Monday, if your good.
>>80540391
>falling for the rental/mortgage jew
lel
>>80540106
several, i lie cheat and steal my way to the top, i'll walk over whoever i please and discard the ones who aren't useful
"honest" work is the biggest lie ever created
>Get schooled
>Get job
>Move to urban area
>Gonna live the life, nigga. Bars are close. Gonna pull in tail like a straight G. Smoke weed erry day
>Mfw too tired to party after work
>Mfw still a hermit
>Mfw I could live the same life as I do now with my parents and put that rent money towards my student loans instead
>>80540537
>"honest" work is the biggest lie ever created
blame Christcucks and their undying love for Israel.
>>80540391
I voted Leave.
>>80540578
>tfw you aren't awkward and you're pretty chill but you're too shy to make new friends
iktf
>>80539856
i worked 2 jobs for a combined 78 hours per week from 18-21 and i was scraping by, i was a chef during the day and my boss was a physically violent coke head and at night i worked security
>Housing is prohibitively expensive in many places
>Student loans cripple tons of millennials
>Taxes are stupidly high to pay for all the gibmedats
>Many millennials make stupid decisions like buying their extra large Starbucks ice coffees every morning and buying iPhones every year when they can't afford it
There's plenty of reasons, some of them are their own faults, some aren't.
>>80540132
And still americans slam "socialists" for being slackers or wanting stuff for free.
Of course... the normal natural way of thing is for a handful to control 90% of every resource on the planet, and for people be born into debt to them and having to pay them to occupyu space and breathe, ...oh wait, you want to get an education too!? , oh boy, hope you got lots of lube because the assrape/debt-slavery is your destiny.
>mfw studio apartment for $320 in South Carolina.
Not everything has to be in LA or New York. To be fair, starting a career has never been more costly and convoluted than it is now, but I also notice two big reasons that millennials fail to find work.
1.) Refusal to relocate
2.) Drug tests
I work full time and my single mother is basically a dependant, and a sister. She lives with me, not the other way around. The jobs are shit, for her generation and mine.
>exposing the myth
>>80540749
I didnt know they had people like that in leaf land
>>80538835
You need money down to buy a house and millennials don't have large sums of cash or previous homes to sell for the money down.
>>80540805
>living in nigger capital USA
>>80539066
This.
I only moved out because they kicked me out, but I managed to save up £25k while living with my parents so I'm not too worried. I now have over £30k in savings but still cant get a mortgage :(
>>80539856
To be fair, all the "honest work" is gone.
>inb4 lazy, i'm in grad school getting my MS in Accounting
Boomers let the big multinationals open up all the factories overseas, and they opened the flood gates for Mexis to take the remainder of unskilled labor jobs.
Don't get me wrong, most of my generation is retarded and worthless, but it's not everyone...and we're getting a shit-deal too.
tl;dr globalism sux
>>80540805
Where are you working in SC? I was born in Trident Tech and forced to live in NY since grade school.
How do I get back to my goose creek! I miss my saturday flee markets!
I don't have anyone to move out with. :(
>>80538835
I move a lot due to my job and I lived alone for most of my working life, but occassionally I have to spend few months in city where my mother lives. No point in paying overpriced rent when I can help with hers.
>>80538835
teh rent 2 high desu
>>80541105
>most of my generation is retarded and worthless
this
>work min wage
>have 2+ kids
>become single parent
>complain about having no money or free time
top kek
>>80539856
Fuck you dude
I've sent my resume far and wide and all I've got back are unsolicited calls by bots trying to lure me into pyramid schemes
I can't even get an entry-level job in my field because it's all outsourced now
Single generation homes are a 20th century invention. Before that everyone lived with parents and grandparents together.
Sociopathic entitled people in the 20th century abandoned their parents to take care of themselves so that they could live alone.
must have been nice to walk down the fucking street and get a job almost anywhere
Chinese ruined the housing market so bad it literally radiated outwards into the entire province and now renting an apartment in a town of 70,000 costs $1000 a month.
>>80541380
i feel your pain on the bots man. took me 4 months to find a real job and its only 13 an hour. keep lookin man. keep lookin.
>>80541388
By the way, this doesn't mean you should be neet. It means you should be helping your parents run the household. There's no reason your aging father should cut grass or you can't help your mother out around the house. You should have a job and be paying for groceries, helping with bills, or paying rent if your parents prefer.
Multi-generational households have been a tradition across nearly every culture throughout history. Moving out at 18 is a relic of the post-war economy, when getting a good job and owning your own home at a young age was actually feasible.
There isn't anything wrong with adults living in their parents' home. It is financially responsible, promotes family bonds and a stronger sense of unity, and helps keep property prices lower due to less demand. Only in the degenerate, money-hungry West is it seen as shameful.
On a side note, the "Millennials are all lazy and entitled" is mostly propaganda for conglomerates to justify moving their businesses overseas and flooding Western countries with foreigners and cheap labor. Don't believe the media lies.
because its free + free tacos
>>80540659
what the fuck does christianity and israel have to do with honest work?
>>80541388
>Sociopathic entitled people
Guess who encouraged it?
>>80538835
because the economy sucks. Compared to when baby boomers were 18.. we have it rough.
But that's no excuse to not try
>>80541484
Wasn't the case.
There weren't particularly more just just a lower barrier to entry.
>>80541164
I live near Clemson. I love the upstate.
i have depression
>>80540744
You know me? I've had people say that irl...
>>80540578
holy fucking this, especially in cuckcity of SF, 4k rent, too tired to go out anymore, the fuck am i doing here, move back home , pour all the money into helping mom and dad get a mansion house in the country side, mfw 200k 5 bedroom house with a pool, what am i in a rush for?
>>80541851
there was ABSOLUTELY more. pajeet wasnt taking our shit from across the globe and pedro wasnt scurrying across the border either
>>80540812
I'm English, most of the Canadians that i've met in my age group are drug users or frivolous entitled brats, then again I'm in the non white cesspool of Toronto
>>80541896
What is 29445 like these days? "Goose Creek,"
Last time I went it was pretty much run down. Any improvement? What happened over there?
-Thanks
>>80542220
you sound like a 'head down get shit done' kind of guy
>>80542084
The major difference is actually women.
cuz no gf.
i easily could move out if i found a girlfriend to help cover the rent.
but that's not happening.
>>80541623
>It is financially responsible, promotes family bonds and a stronger sense of unity
Yeah, isolating yourself in the basement while leeching resources sure is bonding.
>>80538835
For me, personally, it's a mixture of my health and my location.
I live in LA, and have to be tied to my parent's health insurance. I can't move to a cheaper state (without negative consequences, health-wise), and LA is expensive as fuck, not even mentioning all of the local and state taxes.
I'm trying to be self-employed so I can have an income source independent of my location, but I don't have a good home life, and am constantly depressed and lacking willpower.
I don't like being a victim, though, so I don't really complain much. I just try to focus on what I can.
>>80541388
This is a bit of a sweeping generalization.
If your parents are cool or at least decent you can probably "cohabitate". But it's a 50/50 thing at least.
The spectrum is so wide I can't even start.
But overall...yeah, in oldy times 3 generations living in the same house was more common.
For better or worse (old people got more care, young people had their parents taking care of their kids, also complete psychopathic disfunction was possible, just like today.
>>80542064
Fuck SF. Unless you're making $1m/yr you just can't afford it
I can't decide on a career
everything seems like a sham
government keeps taking money and can't pay or maintain what it has
I want to live independent of it but I don't see a way
because it's impossible for young people to get decently paying jobs unless they were born rich and have connections to get them hired.
>>80540035
25 living with parents. Making $10/hr part time as a cashier after 8 months job hunting after a layoff. My boss is 17 and still in high school.
I understand your suffering
>>80538835
we have only reverted to the way things were before WW2. Before WW1 even.
weve successfully used up the postwar boom and have returned to the way things normally work. that being, the working class have some buying power, but are not a powerful force unto themselves, young adults will live in their family home until their parents die, then inherit the home, etc etc
We live in a horrible time to find housing either rent or owning. Good news we are close to another housing bubble popping.
My personal reason why I am stuck at home is student loan debt and finding a job is impossible.
Doesn't help that my dad and his girlfriend are attempting to kick me out of the house. Yey me
if you are not a millenial imagine going through the school system as it has been for us, and every other aspect of 2000s-2010s life and emerging after years and years of that shit to find people telling you, you are just lazy cause you cant afford to live alone in the fiscal hell of today
>>80542521
that too. anyone who attempts to say we have anywhere near the opportunity our good for nothing parents had is delusional
Because in 1985 the average house price in England was 4x average income.
In 2016 the average house price is 15 times the average income.
Rent used to take no more than 1/3 of income. Now it takes up 2/3 of your income. It's fucked.
>>80539890
can attest to this- my parents both grew up in argentina, and my mom at least, lived at home with her parents after college. she had a job and all, but she stayed home. just the way it was
>>80542640
you realize you cant be on their insurance past 25 right? better prepare yourself.
Lived at home for 2 years saving money and paying off bills, bought a house, now living the good life in a neighborhood, doing yardwork and loving it
>>80543019
My dad put a kitchen knife in my face and I had to beat his ass.
It could be worse bud but, I know your pain
>>80540035
Ya m8 life seems pretty bleak for me too. Im 20 though but i only make $9.05 per hour. Every time i try to get a better job though it seems like places want people who already have 1-2 years experience and hell even if you got the experience they only wanna pay you $12 per hour starting out!
Fuck i really need to figure out a better place to look for a new job besides goddamn craigslist :/
>>80543232
My health problem is severe enough that I could be on the insurance past 25, to my understanding. I am only 20, though, so I have plenty of time whatever the case is (although if I'm 24 or 25 and still living with my parents, i'll probably just hang myself)
>>80543193
no the real reason you lazy kids live at home is gameboys and your bad attitude grumble grumble
>>80543245
story? ages?
>>80541623
>On a side note, the "Millennials are all lazy and entitled" is mostly propaganda
thats only half true. Ive seen my contemporaries. YOUVE seen them. the disgusting kids that vote bernie. You think they ARENT entitled or lazy?
>>80538835
What exactly is bad about living with your parents?
As long as you get a job and contribute to the family unit I don't see a problem. More families should live together and pool their resources.
The problem lies in selfish parents and selfish kids who don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves.
>>80539066
fpbp
I am just saving to move back out of CA, fuck this place hard.
>>80543245
tell me how you got those scars
>Live in Toronto.
>One room apartment is $1500+.
This city is shit, I'm surprised anyone can afford to live here.
Boomers like my parents ruined our future, so we should ruin their retirement lel.
>>80543667
good point. I get along with my folk. so that makes it easier.
I imagine some people dont have it as good..
>>80543542
i can guarantee you will be. sorry bud, the economy is only getting worse...
ITT: Weebs who are too stupid to get a degree in IT.
Kek. Where I work they are practically begging for whites in IT. All the poo-loos are fucking idiots. There are so many IT jobs and so many idiots that can't fill them. Why don't you just go pick up a programming book? Pussy.
>>80544033
If you were going to study "IT" what does that mean? What kind of degree? Can you get any degree worth a shit at a cheap cc?
>>80542514
the deck is stacked against us, you have to struggle pretty hard unfortunately. It's rough seeing Europe go to shit, Europeans are just trying to keep a roof over their heads while leeches get everything handed to them. Good luck m8
>>80543817
whats toronto like? only place in leafville ive been is montreal, is it anything like that?
>>80544033
what the hell do you mean by "IT" what comes to my mind is helpdesk type of work, networking etc... but when you mention picking up a programming book which is less IT and well... programming.
also i dont think anyone has said a god damn word about anime or posted any anime pictures. sounds like you are the only weeb here.
>>80538835
>25
>living with girlfriend in my parents house
>paying £50 a month for house keep
>can't afford the £1500+ a month it would cost to rent my own place
>>80544503
That seems emasculating. Your girlfriend must be a slag or you must be good looking to pull that off.
>>80544484
Toronto is more expensive, french isn't spoken here. It's like any generic western city, thoroughly mediocre
>>80538835
because the millenials are only 16
if you're talking about people born in the late 80s early 90s, however, the cost of living comfortably (which is what they want because that's what they live in at home) does not meet the average salary for that age range (which is like 40-60k i think)
>>80544503
i see you mentioned the pound. I was wondering what you guys were doing with your currency now after brexit. are you guys switching over to pound only? or is the euro still used alot? or was it ever used?
>>80538835
Because boomers fucked it up that's why.
>>80544660
>Toronto is more expensive
oh really? i really thought it would be the other way around. when i was in montreal it seemed really upscale to me. but then again that was like 10 years ago when i was there. but shit was really expensive.
>>80538835
Because a salary with a 0 - 1k euro range (assuming STEM master degrees and non paid internships) is not enough to quickly buy a home.
People with no special qualifications get 600/month at best.
Yep, it sucks in here.
>ahah Barbosa is a poorfag
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Anyway, hows life in america? Tell me your stories and your income.
>>80544627
Neither. I'm ugly as sin and she's extremely faithful.
>>80544503
>£50 a month rent
You're unemployed, right?
>>80544681
We never used the euro in the UK. Things are trotting along like normal here for us.
>>80543667
This.
I feel you m8, wish more burgers could think like this. Glad my dad sees it this way though, i have a few friends who werent so lucky though.
>>80544668
>because the millenials are only 16
That's Gen Z, you numbskull.
>>80544795
It's not a matter of being faithful or not, it's a matter of being attractive. Inability to provide for oneself as a man is the definition of unattractive. It just sounds like cuck city to me.
>>80539856
Fun fact cunt. 66% of people aged 18-35 lived on their own in 60's today its 33%. All that boomers did is ammas them selfs fortune and let us enjoy the misery they left behind. Anybody over 40 must be killed imo if we want to make it.
>>80544859
Nope, I work part-time. Only make about £750 a month from 3 days work.
>>80544915
Yeah... not sure what it's like over there, but over here one's attractiveness isn't based on wealth.
>work 2 jobs
>cant afford even a one bedroom apartment because the area my parents raised me in is too expensive
>cant move away because of my job
>dude why don't you have your own place lmao
>>80545059
I'm talking about universal human markers for attraction, but okay. I guess there's a country where ugly people are good looking and good looking people are ugly... right?
>>80544964
You have generous parents.
>>80544792
Here it's literally
>Get any skillset
>Any at all
>Work a job
>Maybe go to college
>Do internships
>Get a job out of college and start your career
>Otherwise just keeping working with that skillset from before
Everybody who whines about finding work or money is an entitled retard that is
>WAAAAAAH MY MINIMUM WAAAAAGE GIBSMEDAT
levels of retard.
>>80539856
>work 40+ hours a week
>Im entited
>My generation is likely not going to have social security
>Im ENTITLED
Okay kunt
>>80544889
>That's Gen Z, you numbskull.
generation X was the 90s
generation Y was ???
generation Z was the 2000s
Does anything seem wrong about that to you?
>>80540035
where do you live?
>move out and work two jobs to sustain myself in a one room apartment or move in with shitty strangers, leaving me no time for hobbies or any personal goals
or
>work one job, go to school, have time for myself and hobbies while I wake up everyday to constant happiness and nostalgia surrounding my comfy home with pets and family
I pay for internet and rent, and even manage to buy groceries or other supplies for the house while still having some left over for myself.
Why the fuck would I want to move out when I'm nowhere near finding a suitable wife to have children with or enough savings to last me longer than a year.
Blame the economy, not the generations.
>>80538835
Financially it makes sense. Rent where I live would be 50-60% of my monthly income. Seeing as I would not be able to live in the more ghetto neighborhoods/apartment complexes that would only cost me 30-40% of my income. The only mortgage I could afford would be in a really shitty neighborhood so that's out.
Friends are hard to rely on for rent/bills because people would rather indulge in the pop culture consumerist lifestyle.
The problem isn't minimum wage, it's that there aren't enough good paying jobs. Too many at the top are greedy. The wealth absolutely needs to be distributed better. Some jobs are way underpaid and the pool of workers is deep.
My grandfather had a factory job and could afford a nice house and 2 cars and still feed his family of 6. That's not happening today.
This isn't even factoring in the special snowflake syndrome, consumerist brainwashing or the debt of a college education.
>>80544033
Well, yes, this is the problem.
There is nowhere for stupid people to go, any more.
Most people are being funnelled into places beyond their natural position.
>>80545189
They truly are retarded aren't they and don't get it how fucked we are.
>>80541603
>paying rent
Top fucking kek
Anyway I seriously doubt I'll ever move out desu, too much of an autist and it's not like marriage will ever happen. I do help around the house, and I just find it /comfy/
>>80545171
For example, all of these whiney cunts
>>80544959
>>80541380
>>80540749
>>80540505
>>80540503
>>80539932
They'll all tell you "I've sent my resume everywhere" or "there aren't any good jobs here" or really anything to justify themselves not taking any work that's offered to them. They could have jobs, be currently employed, and build connections and skillsets even in minimum wage positions which immediately make them more attractive to better employers
But nooo
Gotta have that NICE CUSHY JOB
CAUSE IM SO GOOD
WHERES MY GOOD JOB HUH
THAT DOESNT PAY ENOUGH I DONT WANT IT
>>80545135
Again, it isn't universal. The whole shallow, gold-digger thing is mostly an American phenomenon.
>>80545150
Indeed.
>>80538835
I'm Gen-X and still do. Not for long though.
>>80544795
You're clearly not that ugly if you've got a gf you fucking normie
>>80545171
The bank always need a guarantee in order to issue a loan.
If you got squat it will take fucking decades to get one, assuming ofc you dont rent or have financial aid from your peers.
>>80544964
Tfw i usually work 6 days a week, 9-10 hours a day and i roughly make only £927 pounds ($1200) per month.
Fucking america. Damn illegals ruined it :^(
>millennial
>have a house
>own a car
>nice job
>college degree, working on MBA now
Not sure what the rest of y'alls problem is. Maybe you should move your donkey ass out of California and New York and come to a state that is actually livable.
>>80544792
>hows life in america?
not much better. jobs are becoming scarce. if you want to live near a city be prepared to spend most of your paycheck on rent. otherwise move to a small town in the midwest and climb the walls with boredom.
niggers are losing their minds, despite everything being handed to them on a silver platter and opportunities afforded to them at every turn.
the women are evil/dumb/non-trustworthy. old people are hanging onto their shekels and property and fucking over the young people. 85% of the degrees out there are useless and have you strapped to a ball and chain of debt that you will be paying off into your mid thirties (if you went to college) if not you are stuck in a 9-15$ range of work for the rest of your life.
nepotism is the name of the game and with the population exploding more and more people are fending for themselves and communities are non existent. people on the street and just enemies.
white people are doing everything they can to sabotage their own existence and I am sick of seeing my own people repeatedly putting blacks/mexicans well being above the well being of their own families.
the government is good for one thing only - taking a shithuge chunk of your paycheck and giving it to black people and leaving the 2 foot pothole in the road on the interstate that you run over every day on you 30 minute commute to work.
we own nothing, we rent everything. we are all running around like chickens with our heads cut off to collect money to just give away for nothing concrete to hold onto in return.
our food is full of fillers and our nutrition is not nutritious. our jobs are disappearing to automation and we all think this is a good thing. technology is our god and we its slave.
its not great, man.
>>80545555
>You faggots costed me quads, im outta here
>>80545455
>going outside
>talking to other human beings
>having a social circle
>being motivated
wew
>>80545543
>ugly people can't get girlfriends
There's more to it than just looks. Make 'em laugh, and you're halfway there.
>>80538835
>fucking your personal finances over for the sake of (((independence)))
really though i would move out if i got a job i couldn't get to quickly from home, fuck spending 40 hours a month commuting
>>80543634
I was 24. Im 26 now.
Hes In his 50s or 60s
Hes just a classic delusional boomer.
Hes said things like
There are jobs
Theres nothing wrong with the economy!
your lazy!
You cant get work because something is wrong with you!
If you wont work for 4 dollars an hour like a Mexican then you dont deserve work
I hate you
Ill kill you
Ill call the cops to get you out of here
One day he just put the knife in my face so I hit it out of my face. then land some bombs on him and put him on the ground.
Its "better" now I guess
I hate it here though. Me and my autistic brother are fucked. I need to get out of this shithole state. CA
>>80545790
well I don't have either so that just confirms I'm fucked
>>80545503
>Again, it isn't universal. The whole shallow, gold-digger thing is mostly an American phenomenon.
You don't know anything about America, bro.
Secondly, you sound like a serious normalfag right about now. Like you have a lot of faith in the inherent nobility of peoples for lack of better information.
Protip: Humans are shitty, base biological machines and relationships are entirely formed on the basis of reproduction, even if you don't actually reproduce, the desire to engage with an opposite sex individual romantically and sexually is an evolutionary blueprint based entirely, 100% on the fact that you're a biological machine whose existence is optimized by instructions to do so.
As such, those instructions refer to universals of mate viability relative to one's own position. That is to say, a low status male or female might be okay with a lower status male or female, but the inherent drive for a high status male or female is universal.
There are no other reasons, no alternate theories explaining attraction. This is how it works.
Because I can't afford to live on my own comfortably even with a good paying job, and my parents are good people who respect my privacy and want me to be financially secure before I leave.
My grandparents also live with us. Its just how we do.
>>80545455
>implying
I worked retail but now I don't
Wanna know why?
Because the best my cousin could get me (she worked there, was cool with the manager) is a seasonal position working stock along with 30 other people in part-time positions just like me
Then we got canned after Christmas
And I can't even be a lab-tech because everything entry-level in my industry has been outsourced
Fuck you. Retire already so I can work you fuck
>>80544033
Tell me where all these mystical IT jobs are. I want to know.
>>80538835
>hey guys look at me in my ivory tower!
If you are one of the cucks in this thread who says you have crippling student loan debt and can't get a job, post:
>what state you live in
>what your degree is
>what your GPA was
So we can laugh at how much of a fuckup you are
I don't live with my parents but there's a lot of reasons. Useless degrees is a big reason. So many people bought into the "just get any degree and you're guaranteed 50k starting," meme which may have been true in the 90's but hasn't been for a long time. Colleges pushed that idea to get filthy rich/fund their actual good departments since it costs like nothing to run an art history class and a lot to have an electrical engineering lab. So now you have a ton of people with participation certificates that cost them 100k because the media and public schools feed them the "college experience" idea. Then you have the corporate welfare system where huge companies can risk tons of money, lose it all, and then the government bails them out with few consequences. That doesn't help the cost of goods, services, loans, etc. If the government hadn't bailed out the mortgage companies, then housing prices would have dropped to market value instead of being artificially inflated. Then there's the problem that the market is flooded with unemployed so companies have no incentive to provide benefits, raises, or any sort of loyalty to the employee. In turn, employees see themselves getting treated like shit and look for the next best thing at the drop of a hat and the employer complains that workers aren't loyal so they don't give benefits. It's vicious cycle.
It's all sorts of shit but mainly it's the result of the 2008 collapse and subsequent bailouts combined with the higher education business and lenders being in cahoots with each other. On the personal responsibility side, millennials believe they should have what baby-boomers have in an era where its just not possible for most people to have the previous generations standard of living. Of course, their parents, teachers, and tv really pushed the fantasy to them when they were too young to know better.
>>80545990
Go get another job in retail.
Or start work at a butchers.
Or UPS.
Or work for Uber if you have a car.
Saying "I had a job and now I don't" doesn't do you any favors.
>I'm 24
Im fucking tired of trying to find a job. Im just gonna start working at McDonald's untill i can get an aprenticeship. Then its straight tobthe eoods.
>>80545788
Pokemon Go is directly fighting this kind of degeneracy at its heart.
Truly Japan is our greatest ally.
>>80546055
People go to university because there's nothing else available for them. It isn't 1956 where you could walk out of school and get a solid secure job any more.
>>80546199
sounds like plebbit is your greatest ally
>>80539908
>he fell for the mortgage jew
>>80545455
what are you talking about faggot? I worked the equivalent if two full time jobs until i got tendonosis which required surgery, not once did i complain either
>>80545741
Well after reading all that truth i have to go decide what tree im gonna hang my rope in....hopefully ill just break my neck
Brb
>>80538835
moving away from your family is degenerate.
>>80546199
How is it "degeneracy" when society doesn't even know or care about my existence? I see no reason to give a shit, but at least I'm not going out drinking and vomiting on the streets.
>>80546254
maybe for yuropoors
>>80538835
Because all our parents were liberal douches that voted for democrats who raised taxes for future generations and drove every manufacturing job out of the country.
Want to hear true irresponsibility?
Ask one of your parents to tell you a story of their's from the 70s or 80s. If I pulled half the shit my dad got away with I'd be in a prison cell for the next ten years.
>>80546199
Too bad Pokemon is shit
>>80546438
It's the same situation in pretty much every single Western country.
>>80546508
You'll notice none of the Americans are answering my question.
Here's why. They either:
>Live in a shitty state like California
>Got a shitty degree
>Got shitty grades
In all three cases, they deserve to burn
>>80545455
Nigger I've worked nothing but hard labor jobs since I was 14 while pussies like you got opportunities by simply existing.. I'll fuck you until you love me, you cunt.
>>80546629
>shitty degree
There's no such thing.
Even the 'worst' degree has low unemployment in America.
The only excuse is that you're just fucked mentally.
>>80546170
>retail
They only hire for the holidays
>butchers
Haven't seen an opening for any. Plus grocery stores want previous experience. It looks like a sweet deal though, wish they would take me
>UPS
My dad just retired from UPS. Says they're cutting tons of people. Not interested in hiring
>UBER
My car is busted and shitty
People saying "You don't have a job because you're lazy and don't want to work hard" doesn't do anyone any favors either
I'm just hoping that when I graduate my degree won't be outsourced completely. Biotechnology w/ a Chemistry minor has to get me somewhere
>>80545741
Fuck dude. This is literally my life in a nutshell.
Are we in hell?
>>80545741
Annnnd i want to commit suicide. Thanks
>26
>mortgage paid off
>nuclear sales engineer making 120k
>wife is an RN making 90k
>white kid on the way
Life is good folks
>>80543639
>implying every generation doesn't have their share of tards
Remember hippies? They didn't represent all of the boomers.
Wish I lived close enough to work to make living with my parents feasible again. Miss my momma's home cooked meals.
>>80547031
this desu
>tfw no gf tho
>>80544795
Then you need to shape up and work hard for your own place to convince her you're worth staying with before someone better comes along into her life. Which doesn't sound too hard.
>>80546728
Well getting a woman's studies degree actually has been found to make you LESS employable. So no.
>>80546661
This.
All i know is hard labor too leaf. I get so fucking pissed when older people say "muh millenials are lazy n sheeit."
>>80538835
cause you need to be realy rich to be able to buy a house
>>80545741
Welcome to the age of decadence SENPAI
>>80547142
Nah, I'm fine. We're happy. She's not like some American girl that jumps on the first dick she finds wearing a shiny watch.
>>80545676
Come home anglo man
24 and living with parent here, the only difference is that I take care of her due to a disability, after work I get what she needs, do house/yard work and in return I get to live rent free and have a decent sum saved up now thanks to that.
>tfw still get dissapointed looks when I mention live with parent
>>80547031
>Monopoly money aka CAD
26, hkv neet here.
>>80539930
-posted from my mom's guest room
>>80545741
[sobs quietly]
>>80547366
I wish britbro. I actually have some scottish ancestry too.
>>80546055
you're right but it's not as simple as, "lol ur a retard, should've got a STEM degree". Baby boomers feed their kids all sorts of bullshit assuming nothing had changed from when they were kids but at the same time became helicopter parents that wouldn't let their kids learn anything for themselves. So you get a generation where most people know shit all about reality when it's time for them to leave home. Too much, "just follow your dreams and you can do whatever you want to do". When baby boomers were growing up their parents told them how hard it was in life, the baby boomers basically told their kids how easy it was. Kids are stupid, it's parents responsibility to help them make good decisions. Boomers helped their kids make retarded decisions.
>>80545327
>I pay for internet and rent
lol
>23
>Degree
>130k year job
>Still can't afford anything other than a shitty small apartment with a roommate
Gotta love San Francisco
>>80547755
>leaf flag
>>80538835
>Live in NYC.
>Internship pays $15/hour.
>Still in college
>No debt though
I have about a year left. Maybe I'll look into apartments when I land a stable job.
>>80538835
Tfw you haven't lived at home since 16
and your parents aren't financially stable enough to even lend you 10 dollars.
Hell i can't even get my first car fixed let alone buy a second one but i still end up managing to provide for a wife and kid in my early 20s with a mere high school education...
In the US you are afforded all these opportunities, just join the military. They literally pay for your housing, food and give you spending money. I honestly couldn't go to college because my white privlege of having parents with a credit score lower than 200 got in my way. People are quicker to make excuses then look at all the resources afforded to them in the first place.
>>80547537
You planning to end it at 30 too m8?
>>80547742
All things considered, any millennial who willingly chooses to live in an unaffordable state is to blame for their own failures.
As someone else said, even the majority of "shit-tier" degrees can be made to work in some capacity. Only deeply dysfunctional states counteract that -- ironically it is exactly those states that liberal millennials want to live in the most.
Long story short, they deserve to burn.
>>80547367
Look after your own, brother, fuck those people who don't get it.
>>80547215
Gotten to the point that I watched Fury Road and saw the War boys and thought "Yeah, those guys got it made."
I'm tired, man, thinking of investing my money into something and just making money through that.
I still pay taxes, nothing wrong with that.
>>80539856
t. Baby boomer
gentrification is making even the shittier neighborhoods here expensive
no i dont want a fucking hipster coffee shop or vegan burger bar thank you get the fuck out my area so i can afford rent again
>>80547861
15 an hour in NYC?
i dont see how you can afford water
>>80541000
damn, let me live with you homie
>>80538835
Well I'm 27 I live with my dad.
I have a job and have been paying rent since I was 17
Pay all my own bills
Pay for my own groceries
Own three vehicles
Help him pay the bills
Help with maintaining the house
I am going to inherit the house from him.
Why don't I have my own place?
Well while I could afford a apartment (it would be tight but I could manage) I have almost no credit because I inherited poor credit from my mom signing up credit cards in my name and not paying when I was a kid and now I cannot even get a credit card and build my credit score, and basically no apartment will accept a leaseholder with zero or bad credit.
I cannot find roommates because the few people I have pitched the idea too keep flaking on me and I don't wish to room with strangers that will undoubtedly rob me.
Finally there are almost no better job oppurtunities in my city for someone at my educational level (GED no college) and even jobs I have the skills to do (welding,body work) I do not have certification for because I either cannot afford the time off or the cost of tuition.
I want my own place but it's not in the cards here and while I would be willing to move to greener pastures I do not know where they are.
>>80547837
I'm at home outside Toronto visiting parents atm (irony of this thread actually)
So yes I am a leaf in murica
>>80544668
This, living with your parents is smart if you're making a shit entry level salary. Better to save as much of that 50k a year as you can than to piss it away on rent for some dumpy apartment just so you can feel (((grown up))).
>>80538835
Housing where I live is very expensive and I didn't have a roommate to move in with. But I got a high paying warehouse job and found a roommate so I should be out by the end of summer.
>>80547900
no.
>>80548132
dude get a secured credit card
>>80546485
>Too bad LoveLive is shit
Fixed
>>80547999
Good idea m8. If i were you id seriously consider it.
My mom died when i was 10 and she left me a small sum of $10k, thought about investing it, but then again i know fuck all about investment. I also just thought about keeping it to help me with a downpayment on a house. Idk tho, at this rate i feel that i may never be able to afford my own place because of how shitty the world is and how bad it continues to get.
>>80547367
Fuck them. At least they let you know they are scum before you waste any time.
>>80547367
Have you posted this before?
I remember reading something like this the other week.
You're doing a good thing by helping out your mom, nice one.
>>80548457
>LoveLive is shit
>>80548138
what kind of job do you have in SF? how did you get it ?
>>80548366
well good luck to you neet anon
>>80548610
Family fell on hard times recently, if I invest it right I can probably help out with a lot of the problems. I'd rather just stay with blood for the time being instead of having to learn and memorize a whole new list of do's and don'ts by getting roommates in a new place.
Most people I've met have a little too pampered tastes for me to stomach.
>>80547975
>even the majority of "shit-tier" degrees can be made to work in some capacity
You are too delusional for words.
>>80548971
Well in that case i wouldnt bother either then. Seems too much of a risk.
I agree.
I live with my parents and spend my money on cars.
Pic related, my spotless 1970 Torino. With factory high output 429ci engine and 4 speed manual.
Also have a Chevelle and trucks.
I have spent about 100k on vehicles I currently own.
>>80549039
Enjoy living at home cuckyboy.
Mark my words, you will work on my estate one day.
>>80548914
Front End Dev with Twitter
Had an internship here in Toronto for 16 months and got another internship in San Francisco for a little while with Twitter, then hired on full time.
They covered my sponsorship which honestly was the hardest part.
>>80549235
If only I had looked that manager in the eye and pulled on my bootstraps hard enough, I too could have had the American Dream™!
>>80549531
All I did was go to my state university and major in engineering, and I'm basically on par with this leaf >>80547031
How the fuck did you spend your time to goof up so badly?
>>80549173
NOICE
>>80549106
I can spare 100 bucks or so. It aint much, but it's a start.
My body is basically falling apart at this point, I just need a way out.
>>80549524
i dont believe you.
>>80549235
Don't you have a social security check to go cash grandpa?
>>80545455
please, i have been on like 20+ interviews in the past 2 months on top of countless phone interviews.
I am willing to take a 12/ hr job if it gets my foot in the door, but everyone wants 3 years exp to make 12/hr with no benefits.
I derive myself from work, it kills me little by little not being able to work 60 hr weeks.
>>80538835
After three years renting I figured why give my rent money to some slumlord Jew? My old man is on his last legs anyways right now and he gets $500/mo with a part time helper we he's the winner chicken dinner.
>>80548610
>you have been holding $10k in cash since you were 10 and you didn't even once actually invest it
For fuck's sake, didn't Jesus Christ have a parable about squandering a gift? Do you know what the returns on the S&P 500 have been for the past 15-fuck years that you could have let that money grow?
>>80549815
Eh thats fine - I'm not here to prove anything
Just that 6 figures in that city gets you no where lmfao
I'm almost more broke now than I was as an intern in Toronto
>>80549888
I am 26, bud.
A lot of millennials are doing quite well for themselves. I daresay most of them are. If you aren't, that means you are the new loser class, and judging by the way society is headed, don't expect us to carry your weight very long.
>>80549677
Not him but similar.
>on and off community college for 12 semesters
>didn't get AA
>26 years old
>in the beginning of the semester I do well
>then get into a state of apathy and can't think correctly,forget things often, and tiredness
>tfw going to try again this semester
>>80550290
Uh... don't fuck up this time. You've probably already lost millions in lifetime earnings, but by no means are you hopeless. A good start now will put you miles ahead of the typical NEET in this thread.
Just don't expect to be working on Wall Street w/o a substantial amount of luck at this point.
>>80550127
OK. i really dont believe you.
>>80550127
It's true, SF is a shitpile. Take your skillset literally anywhere else in the US and you'll be like... top 1% in your state
>>80538835
Wages have not increased in proportion to housing. Landed property is more concentrated in the wealthy elderly than ever before.
>>80539066
This, as well as taking care of my mother who is dying from cancer. I have to deal with all this shut on top of my own issues, taking care of my brother and father and my gf who is starting to get pulled in as well. I'm not going to drop everything and leave to go live in a ghetto, working super long hours to pay for school and eat shut to survive.
Go to school already and don't need some "I lived like shut for years utility I could finally buy a house" story. Not everyone lazy. If you had left the house and ran into problems then that's your fucking fault.
>>80550518
Living at home in Toronto paying no Rent > Paying rent and making 6 figures in SF
lmfao I don't get what there is not to get
>>80550653
Tempted to look into Seattle desu - not sure much about it though.
I don't have the social skills required to hold down a job.
>>80539856
Yeah because no generation after yours tries to work for a living. What ever makes you feel better when working at Wendy's.
>>80539066
This except the shit wages part. I don't think its hard at all to find something that pays 15+ an hour as a young person. But I have no interest in academics or going to school again so that rules out any legitimately high paying white collar jobs.
I fully admit I'm not willing to work more than 8 hours a day and I have a passion for combat sports so I need evenings off to train. I'm just kinda stuck where I'm at right now until I progress in seniority at my current workplace (which will actually happen quite soon, but not yet).
>father works as an EE for over 35 years now, currently an E13 Test Engineer, at the same corporation, moving around to different groups when the need arises
>helps get me in as a temp test operator (i.e. "the bottom" but still starting out at like $10/hr without a degree) in my early 20's. Got my foot in the door, basically.
>live at home, go back to college for my associates degree, do good work and every one loves me there, work for multiple groups as a test operator and build a reputation in the company
>get my AS in engineering from one of the best engineering CC's in MA, no debt, over $20k in savings now in my mid 20's, move up to being a technician without even having to interview. my new boss just talks to my old bosses, finds out how awesome i am, and hires me. that's how far your reputation gets you in life.
>plan on working this cushy af job (i'm talking test times that last upwards of an hour, where you just push the start button and wait for an hour surfing the web on your phone, listening to music and shitposting on /pol/ while getting paid nearly twice what I started at) for another 5-7 years while I try to do music professionally on the side. if it works, great, i'll quit my day job. if it doesn't, at least i tried and have all of that life experience while i was still young enough to try, and can take my savings and get my MSEE and move even further up the ladder with all of my work experience i've gained over the years.
Look into temp work, in your field if you can. Makes it way easier to get your foot in the door, at which point you just work hard and show you're not a piece of shit and you'll eventually get hired as a permanent employee after 1-2 years, making money and networking and getting work experience for your resume all the way.
Temp work and Community Colleges are the way to go these days, in all honesty. Work your way up from the bottom, stay debt free
Hardly rich, but kinda feel guilty after reading how bad some of you guys have it.
I literally just moved out to a new city 3 weeks ago and into a pretty good apartment at a pretty young, hip part of town. I'm doing pretty decent for myself but I wish I can be doing better. I think that by the age of 25, if you don't have a career going on then you're pretty much fucked.
>>80550988
Don't feel guilty about any of these whiny NEETs. Statistically, they're on the wrong side of millennialism. You know, the side occupied by Trigglypuff and whatnot.
>tfw you will never be a GenXer
>>80550988
so just go to cc and get a engineering degree? i'm going to try this.
>>80551130
That isn't true, really. You can always get a career going. The difference between you and someone who doesn't unfuck themselves until age 30 is simply that your retirement will be much more fulfilling than theirs. Better house, more vacations, etc.
They can still build a manageable retirement fund, though.
>>80551144
Nah. Most of them are against triggly puffs and whatnot.
they'll all vote for Trump to get jobs back.
https://youtu.be/OD6Kb2S3Exk
>>80551256
It's going to be tough if they hadn't even started college until later in life. Everything gets harder over time.
>>80550215
Im with this guy, also 26
tfw no degree, dropout college.
Still make enough to buy a proper house and go on vacation 2 times a year.
Secret? Just get a job in a field youre good at. Do not suck
>>80549173
not a miata
>>80538835
Millennials are a spoiled generation
>>80549969
I luckily still live in an area where some manufacturing held on. Mostly due to the association with the big GE plant on the edge of the city, so there's a lot of mid-level parts manufacturing feeding into them. Also a lot of P&G factories since their main R&D facility is out in the suburbs. Even some car manufacturing hanging around, Mitsubishi being the main one.
I applied for a factory line assembly job about two years ago, starting at $11 an hour for 10 hours a day. After two years there they helped me pay my way through a local technical school for night classes (and switched me to the day shift so I could attend) to become a machinist, which then got me a job actually making the parts that I was previously assembling on the line.
If you're looking for a place with a bit of everything, decent living expenses, etc. give Cincinnati a try. Just stay out of the west side, it went to nigger hell when downtown through oakley started going through its gentrification stages.
>>80539856
There is no work where i live you fucking faggot, and the places i did apply to denied me to hire old cunts with more experience that should have retired
im going to a good uni in the fall. what should i major in?
i only care about making decent money and not having to bring my work home every fucking day.
>>80551466
There are certain things that they might not ever be able to do that some of us who started younger in life will get "for free". It's perks like the ability to take long, expensive vacations, or buy nice cars, or live in overly nice neighborhoods. I still think that in terms of getting a stable job, living your life, and retiring securely it's ALMOST never too late to start.
Unless you're 45 or some shit.
>>80539066
I think you mean "Can't get a job with a shit degree."
>>80539066
This
>>80551187
Sorta. The temp work is pretty important, working from the bottom up. A big problem with a lot of my friends who went the more traditional route (like I said I went back to school in my early 20's, I went to state uni right out of high school and then got really depressed and then tried being an electrician for awhile and then worked a bunch of odd temp jobs to figure out what I wanted out of life and a career. I didn't just go 4 years and graduate with a degree at 22 immediately like some people.) is that they have a 4 year degree but no work experience, and every job requires like 2-3 years experience to even get the initial job. So they have a bunch of debt and can't get a job, sometimes not at all, sometimes they settle for some minimum wage shit that's pretty embarrassing for someone who went to college for 4 years.
Temp work gets your foot in the door. It's called "temp-to-perm" but usually they don't tell you that off the bat, it's more like you just get a temp job where you want to work and you do a really good job and if you keep proving you're a great employee they'll often hire you when there's a position open (and you'll know before "the public" because you're actually working there, just that you're a temp instead of a permanent employee). Temps make more money than regular workers but you don't get benefits and they can fire you whenever they feel like it basically, that's the tradeoff. So don't be a dick (obviously).
I'll continue about CC's in my next post since I'm running out of room. Thank god I can touchtype.
>>80548885
t. Honokaslut
>>80546021
Every major city and all the suburbs surrounding said cities.
I'm 24 and although make good money live at home so that I can, because I'm a loser with no friends or gf, and because I think the world economy is going to be fucked.
All my coworkers are like 10 years older and all have battle stories from the last collapse. It's pretty spooky. They're very grateful for what they have and they have a similar sentiment to me (that the world is fucked).
>>80551811
CAD-monkey
>>80538835
I have a financial plan with my parents. Me and my GF live in their house, which is large enough for two families, until I both finish college and get a good job. After that, my parents will pay for my first month's stay at a small home/rental and I will begin work.
My girlfriend, who had been conned into a liberal arts college, will go to a trade school and work afterwards while I am in college so we can save up our money. We will only use credit cards for gas, which will up our credit rating, and try our best to pay with cash otherwise.
I may be a bit optimistic here, but since my parents are all for it, I'm ready to try hard.
>>80547975
It's not even about living in a unaffordable state. Most retards will not dare leave metropolitan areas because fuck who knows? The cost of living is cheaper in surrounding suburbs but dumb fucks think "uhhh the suburbs are boring"
Because my parents are too poor to raise the 7 kids they pumped out so I, being the oldest, am acting as a third (well really second because the only money my mom makes is from sporadically selling things on etsy) source of income.
>tfw I just want to move out and find a qt 3.14 gf to live with me but I can't leave my parents because my 6 siblings will starve without me
>>80546021
>>80552030
*So that I can save
Also it's true my office interviewed a few indians who got some shitty half science bachelors in india and come here to do a masters. None of them were terribly impressive and you definitely don't have to be a genius to do my job.
>>80552309
>tfw live in the suburbs in Florida
>26
>have nice job, live in comfy area
>spend all my free time on the internet anyway
Spoiled, whiny, greedy, entitled millennials...
Shaking. My. Head.
>>80552388
You're a better man than all here.
>>80551187
After that, CC is great, just make sure it's properly accredited (especially for engineering). I go to Quinsigamond CC in MA, for example. Great engineering school, well known around here, has an articulation agreement with the state uni's here and also with WPI (basically get auto-accepted and can get large chunks of money discounted on tuition depending on your GPA). Many top students from here can even go to ivy league schools as well. Main point is twofold: 1) similar to temp work, colleges are much more likely to accept you if you "prove yourself" at CC, give you scholarships and accept you more easily. This is compared to people who just go directly to college from year 1 and often "wash out" which fucks with the college's graduation rate. They want people who are going to stick with it and finish the program, as well as pay for the years they're there, of course. A CC student is a much safer bet since they've already proved they could do well through 2 years of college.
Secondly, it's a LOT cheaper, and you're learning the same shit you'd learn anywhere else. Where I go, we did calc I, II, III, and diff. EQ's (basically calc IV), chem I and II (calc-based), physics I, II, and III (calc-based), C++, CADD, and engineering courses like statics, thermodynamics, etc. You'll take these courses even if you go to MIT and it's the same shit, calc is the same everywhere, chem is the same everywhere, etc. You don't get into the specific shit for your major until the 3-4th+ years anyways, so why spend a fuckton more to learn the same thing? It costs around $11k for the 2 years here if you didn't fuck anything up and completed it all without having to retake anything. And if you fuck up, obviously it's a lot less expensive to redo shit. We also get a lot of adjunct professors who come from WPI and MIT and other good schools from around the state, so often you get the same education for a huge reduction in cost.
So yeah. CC is overlooked and underappreciated.
>>80551749
Thanks buddy.
Chicago here, and everything is union. I passed on getting a union operators job ( 80-100k a year ) to attend school. I wouldn't trade my education for that job.
Almost every entry level office job seems to be taken by some chick with no plans on ever leaving that position.
>>80545741
/THREAD
>>80547296
If this meme is true were gonna kill the jews.
>>80551417
Goddamn I love how he actually sounds like a strong president in that video. Something I've never seen from Obama.
>>80545914
That sounds based.
Wish my grandparents lived in same state.
>TFW you will never go over to Grandma's house for hot chocolate and cookies
Why live?
>>80545741
I nearly lost my mind during a mushroom trip years ago. Was convinced that I actually died. Slowly I got more comfortable with life, and sort of readjusted and felt like my old self. But this post made me realize. I wasn't happy as my old self. I didn't die from the shrooms and go to hell. I was in hell all along.
>>80552652
I'm sure Hillary and/or Trump have a very good understanding of all the FUCKING ENORMOUS GEOPOLITCAL/ECONOMIC/MILITARY/AND WHO THE FUCK KNOWS WHAT ECONOMIC INTERESTS
rule the situation. So go out, and vote.. and know you'll make a difference...
>>80551562
Kids are too impatient these days. They also got fucked by too much screen time from too young of an age fucking up their social skills (I think those of us around this age group, mid 20's, were lucky enough to escape this. I still remember MS-DOS and dial up and actually playing outside with neighborhood kids when I was a kid).
After working my first job (after going through a major depression episode and dropping out of college the first time, having never worked at all up through high school and 1 year of state uni), the job being working in the deli at stop and shop, I quit after working just 1 full day and had an epiphany. My philosophy since then has simply been this: every new job that I get, has to be at least a *little* bit better than the one before it. Nothing big, just a little better, in some small aspect. Get paid some more money, get to do less hard physical labor, get to be around better/smarter/nicer people, get some new job perk, etc etc, just SOMETHING. And if every job is just a little better than the last, never worse, I will eventually find the job/career that makes me happy.
And surprisingly, over roughly 7 years of working now, that's how things have legitimately gone. I went from working in the deli to working in warehouses to working in data entry to working as a test operator and now to working as a technician. My current job is the best one yet, and I'm very happy with it. The work, the people, the pay, the work environment, the autonomy, the skills I'm learning (soldering is fun), the respect of my peers and bosses, etc.
I think it's a good philosophy to have, a humble one. That, on top of working hard and making sure you do your job and do it well, every day, of course, but that should be obvious.
Don't think about being rich, just keep working and each new job/opportunity, just make sure it's a little better than what you were doing before. That's it. That's my philosophy at least.
>>80552652
I wish I felt that way. Depression is a bitch
>>80550988
This man speaks truth. I've pretty much gone through the *exact same* thing down to the age of hire except I was hired on as an entry level machinist & I graduate with my AS in December. Company's already priming me for a promotion to production controller; I honestly doubt I'll even be interviewed for it.
>>80552713
>We also get a lot of adjunct professors who come from WPI and MIT and other good schools from around the state, so often you get the same education for a huge reduction in cost.
One thing I'll append to this is - and this goes double for lower-division courses: at a community college, the professors aren't paid much of anything. They're there because they love teaching their subject. At a state school you run a huge risk of getting a prof who only cares about the research he is doing or having one getting fat on tenure.
>>80545741
>the government is good for one thing only - taking a shithuge chunk of your paycheck and giving it to black people and leaving the 2 foot pothole in the road on the interstate that you run over every day on you 30 minute commute to work.
Shit pisses me off, a 1/4 of my paycheck, just goes into thin air. All so some fat fuck can hand out violations on the same shitty road.
>>80553959
Thanks for your advice.
>>80546055
>Montreal
>Computer Science
>3.1
I don't speak French and I hate software development.
>>80554687
>They're there because they love teaching their subject. At a state school you run a huge risk of getting a prof who only cares about the research he is doing or having one getting fat on tenure.
This is true, though I've found in engineering especially, it's still mostly up to you. I've run into both assholes and awesome professors while attending, mostly has to deal with how flexible they are with teaching the course and how reasonable they are on the test material (some you know exactly what's gonna be on the test, some you just have to kinda study the fuck out of everything and hope you learned enough to deal with curveball questions. asking other students and avoiding the bad ones or withdrawing early is useful in these cases, but sometimes it's impossible because of scheduling or because they're the only one teaching the course that semester and you just have to deal with it and bust your ass).
Ultimately it's still about you, in your bedroom or the library, reading your fucking textbook, taking notes, and solving problems until you memorize shit. I mostly went part time while I worked but with 2 courses I'd still spend around 15-20 hours outside of class studying. Luckily, again, I have a job where I'm so good I can get done what they want me to get done in 5 hours in an 8 hour shift, which means I can study for 2-3 hours a day at work, not even counting certain tests that have long test times. I also have the autonomy of my boss basically only seeing me maybe once a week to make sure I'm testing X number of parts each week like I'm supposed to, and then leaving for another week. As long as I do my work (which I do consistently, I make sure of that), don't break anything, don't get injured, etc, he gives 0 fucks how I do my job. Which is awesome and one of the many reasons why it's my favorite job to date.
Main point I wanted to make though was regardless of teachers, especially in engineering, it's mostly about you and the textbook/notebook.
>>80555194
I don't know about Canada's job environment so I can't help you much. 3.1 is a barely acceptable GPA at most fortune 500 companies.
Not liking software as a Comp. Sci. person was a mistake
>>80539066
this
We're facing a way worse financial crisis than 2008, housing is incredibly overpriced, jobs are nowhere to be seen.
>>80555032
You're welcome, appreciate the gratitude since I figured my posts might have just been ignored and wasted. Just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter since I've been through a pretty windy road in terms of my career, so I thought my experience could be helpful to people just starting out.
Honestly wish I could go back and do 2 things: start working as soon as I could while in high school, and go to QCC instead of UMass Lowell when I graduated. We got pushed out pretty hard into "good" colleges when we were seniors, and CC's were looked down on and I fell into the trap of looking down my nose at CC's like a snob, mostly due to immaturity and ignorance though. I learned better years later.
I also don't really regret any of it though, to be fair. I highly suggest to high school aged kids to try out a lot of different shit. You can think about stuff forever but the best teacher is experience, you'll never ACTUALLY know whether you like doing something every day or not until you do it. Too many kids "romanticize" jobs.
For example, you may be a young girl and think you want to be a nurse and help people, saving lives, or some self-righteous shit. Then you find out you work around a lot of sick people every day and have to clean up literal shit and piss and vomit and bathe old men, especially when you start out, and you do that on a regular basis. You also find that you're on your feet all damn day, which as a student you might have taken for granted with all the sitting you get to do. That's the difference between a romantic view of something and the reality of it.
So here's the deal. I'm 21 and live alone. It's expensive as fuck and horrible, but better than living with my parents. For the past 2 years, I worked minimum 50 hours a week, and would sometimes go up to 80. I never got overtime because it was split between 3 jobs to get enough hours, and one of those jobs didn't even get me minimum wage. I eventually quit those jobs when I realised I could make the same amount out of social security (No, I don't support it and hate the concept, but fuck, it's free. might as well take it.), and worked another job on the side without declaring any of it to boost my earnings. Now I work ONLY 40+ hours a week (undeclared minimum wage) and social security equal to about another 40 hours /week of minimum wage, which all adds up to about 20$/hours at 40 hours a week. What can I afford? A small 1 1/2 appartment the size of a closet, monthly groceries, car payments, and occasional alcohol to drown my suffering. Anyways, I don't remember where I was going with all of this, but fuck boomers who call millenials lazy. Granted, alot of them are, but alot of us are just shit out of luck.
>>80555781
sweden, i think you have worse problems than housing and finances
>>80556754
Actually, the Swedish economy is on the brink of collapsing, housing has grown to be a massive bubble which eventually has to pop.
>>80555603
>3.1 being barely acceptable for walmart
>>80538835
is that steve-O?
Did that mother fucker even age?
>>80555603
It's funny, I started out in comp sci too straight out of high school. My problem was that I loved solving problems and creating the algorithms, but I hated coding. I already solved the problem in my mind (or written out in english, I mean like "okay to make a program do this the best way would be to create an int and then make a for loop with these if/else statements that do this..." etc etc), now I had to actually write it in the right way so it looked nice and the compiler accepted it? It just felt so fucking tedious to me.
Psychology was the same way for me. I'm an extremely talented at psychoanalysis but I could never be a therapist. I'd figure out people's personality profiles, the root causes of their problems, and the solutions to those problems, and I'd want to be able to just tell them this shit and they go and do it, but people are assholes (human nature and all). Like you get a fat person and you delve into their personality, describe why they eat so much (to fill some emotional void from something that happened in their past, lets say), and tell them how dieting and exercise work. And then they'd come back the next week and say "yeah doctor I know you said to do that but then I ate a whole cake and cried" and I'd lose my damn mind.
idk what I'd be best suited for with this, but tech work suits me well. It's like all the good stuff about being an electrician (work with hands, use tools, smash stuff, generally be manly) and a comp sci (solve problems, sit in comfy chairs, work with other smart people, autonomy) but with none of the bad.
I was making good progress to living alone working as a cook until they shut down all the stores in my region. Seems like everything I touch turns to shit somehow.
>>80557125
Bro, I am the opposite. I don't care much for the problem solving, but if someone describes an algorithm to me, I can turn it into working code in about 5 minutes. We should team up.
>>80538835
My reasons
>pay 350 dollars a month to live with parents
or
>pay 800 dollars a month for my own apartment (800 dollars that goes away forever, and never invested into something I own).
I'll give you a hint, I'd rather pay 350 dollars to live and go to college than 800 dollars.
>>80557375
wow your parents sound like cunts charging you that much, or maybe youre the cunt and youre shit to live with
>>80538835
This >>80539066, and the condo I own is being rented out to pay for itself and more, while I live at home with my family, a house which we rent out the two spare rooms.
I wish I could live alone even if just for a year or two, but financially it just does not make the slightest bit of sense. A shame.
-t. Chang
>>80545455
Found the boomer
>>80557306
Lol you sound like someone I worked with when I went to voc school to be an electrician. Black guy who basically didn't want to think at all, but if you told him what to do he'd do it all perfectly like you said.
So since I'm smart (I mean my favorite teacher there straight-up told me I shouldn't be there, I should really be an electrical engineer instead. And he meant that in the most caring way possible, and hey look where I am now so I guess he was right), I divided up the work with him doing the physical and me doing the mental. I'd draw up the wire diagrams and pin it up next to the panelboard he was working on, I'd tell him the order to put things into the box, the direction things should face, the angles the pipes should be bent at, etc. He did all of that shit perfectly.
I don't have any project ideas for a program but hey, maybe some day in the future we'll meet up through meme magic. I'll have to start working "kek" into my conversations subtly, just to test and see if anyone I run into is from around here. Or maybe not idk, but *something* I could say where normal people would be like "huh?" but not really care and blow it off but if you were from here you'd be like "oh shit bro do you go to /pol/?" And then we'd make the next Google or something.
>>80557549
I have my room, with all my stuff. That's about it. I clean up after myself, buy my own food, etc. I wouldn't say I'm trash to live with. I don't want to live with roommates because I've done the whole 4 years of army experience and all I can say to that is no thanks.
My parents aren't cunts, they just don't want me getting used to living like a mooch. If I can't make pay, or can only make half pay they'll let me do it and make it up later.
>>80538835
Lemme guess Anon you live in bum fuck nowhere Indiana? If your parents aren't assholes live with them until you can buy, renting in many states is practically setting money on fire.
>>80557905
Yeah something about problem solving just always made me so exhausted. I could get it done, but it took me a long time and then I would feel physically weak for a while. But just turning some idea into code? Easy peasy.
It is almost a bit like solving a math word problem, I guess? Modeling what the question asks and coming up with a general idea of solving it is your strength. Busting out the math formulas until the solution was what I was always good at.
Murifats, welcome to what most Western nations have been feeling for the past decade. Spain has experienced this for about 20 years now. It's socially acceptable to live with your parents. Our excuse is we have to take care of our parents because they're getting older and need help with shit, which most of the time isn't the case.
In Italy it's pretty fucked up where "kids" live with their parents until their 40. Over here it's pretty similar although in my area most of my friends moved out by 30 once they got married and got jobs. But usually the parents end up moving in with the kids after they retire and run out of money, so you can't escape them.
>>80558021
They sound like jews. Id move out asap rather than have my mommy play landlord and collect rent off my ass.
>>80558684
It's still better than finding an apartment here, the average is 600-800 dollars in my city. At least here I get internet, water and cocked meals every once in a while
>>80545316
massachusetts
>>80559057
I suppose... I think its ridiculous when parents charge children rent seeing as its implied you will be the one taking care of their asses when they are elderly. Maybe you can charge them a fee for that. Like i said, jews.
>>80543379
i found my job through craigslist too kek
also go through the gigs section. some people post jobs, been going through that lately
also try indeed.com and upload your resume
>>80538835
Moving out at 18 is a fucking dangerous meme, bro.
I'm 23 now and I need to move out soon, but the idea is that if I didn't, there is so much wisdom and teaching I would have missed out on now that I'm longer a retarded teenager and could actually understand my parents as people.
Baby boomers ruined their own generation and now they're ruining ours
>>80540035
I live at home, me/my older brother/my dad all work at the same engineering corporation and carpool in together since we all work first shift (9-5 basically though we usually get in and out an hour early to avoid traffic), we all get along really well together. I make $15/hr but when I get hired on permanently I'll probably get up to $20/hr with bene's.
Honestly I'll probably just live at home forever, when my parents die me and my brother will inherit the house which is already paid off, plus their money, and since I'm happy with a pretty meager and minimalistic lifestyle (I'm happy just doing computer shit all day basically, with the occasional alcohol or weed purchases and buying nice food). I already save most of my money so ultimately I'll just try to retire early if possible.
That's why I feel kinda guilty when reading this thread. I mean I'm nowhere near rich but I'm like this scumlord level of rich or something. I just live a very basic, frugal lifestyle for the most part, saving most of my money and working a decent middle class job for like 20 years probably. I'm privileged enough to be lazy because I'm smart and have loving parents, basically. Dunno what to say, really.
>NEET leech fag
>30yo living with parents
>have money saved from last job
>want to find what I love so I can work in it
>don't search, apathy, social disable
>each month savings are burning
>play games all day
>looking for suicide or cyanide pill (the best pill)
I don't blame my parents, that's childish and arrogant. If you wanna blame someone blame yourself. If I could go back in time, I will do military service (2 years) and then finish college. I want to end it so bad
>>80539066
1st post
Best post
