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why is israel our greatest ally? hold the stormfag shit and pls explain in normie terms, i don't know how we became obligated to give them so much foreign aid each year
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Israel is the white man's lone white ally in a region dominated by smelly, brown mudslimes
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>>80532829
Because Greater Israel would destroy islam for good.

Islam is niggerism made into a religion.
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>>80532982
More than that, it triggers muzzies and constantly reminds them how shit they are. Triggers our lefties too.

One day you stormcucks will make the connection
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>>80532982

fpbp

If there were non-Muslim states in the ME, they'd be greatest ally. The USA even deployed the army to try and keep Lebanon Christian in the 50s to keep it as ally.
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>>80532829
they aren't.

we should move them to west africa.
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>>80533809
>9/11

Muslims did that.

Muslim also did these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

Look how long the list is. Any attacks done by Jews has done a billionth of the damage done by mudslimes
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>>80533809

Look at the shit the Saudis have pulled as """allies""" and tell me that Muslim countries would be better?

>9/11
>USS Cole
>ruining post-Soviet Afghanistan
>destabilizing basically the whole ME and Western world with Salafism
>pushing for conflict with Iran as much as Israel does
>refusing to take any of the refugees they caused by destabilizing Syria
>stated desire to get nukes and use them in a similar way to Israel
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>>80532829
Israel is its own greatest ally and no one else's.

They even say so themselves.
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>>80532982
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Israel sucks ass.
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>>80534618

What happened to the USS Liberty was an accident and Israel apologized for it.

by the way, you have to go back, Ahmed.
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>>80532829
They held a position during the Cold War and still do against China / Russia today. There is no other stable Middle-Eastern country which is loyal to the Western world.
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>>80532829
As for the military aid to Israel, perhaps you should study what created it.
It was pushed by the US after 1973 as part of the peace agreement with Egypt.
Due to the Israeli military dominating Egypt and surrounding their second army that contained 35,000 troops, without food and water int the desert. The US had a lot of leverage against Egypt though their influence in Israel.

It allowed the US to broker a deal which swung Egypt from the clutches of the Soviets to the US side in the height of the cold war.
A much needed victory for the US right after the defeat in Vietnam.

To keep Egypt under US control, US gave them a large military aid program, but since it was only possible to swing Egypt to the US side through Israeli concessions, like not destroying the Egyptian army and withdrawing from Sinai, for Israel to gain something from that deal and remain safe from possible future Egyptian aggression Israel was given a larger military aid.
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>>80532982
>Israel is the white man's lone white ally
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>>80534864
>What happened to the USS Liberty was an accident and Israel apologized for it.

:^)
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>>80532829
>>80534801

Israel kicks sand nigger asses over and over and over again, they are not our allies, but they sure are based.
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>>80532829
Here's a read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt%E2%80%93Israel_Peace_Treaty

Don't expect to get real answers on 4chan, people here are not dumb but their historical education mostly comes from online memes and is next to worthless.

As for why it was so important for the US that Israel withdraws from Sinai and a peace deal is brokered:

mare liberum, freedom of the seas. US was built as en economic superpower of industry and trade.
Through the years the US has pushed the concept of freedom of the seas onto international laws and treaties to allow for a free trade throughout the world.

>This principle was one of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points proposed during the First World War. In his speech to the Congress, the president said:

>Absolute freedom of navigation upon the seas, outside territorial waters, alike in peace and in war, except as the seas may be closed in whole or in part by international action for the enforcement of international covenants.

While now it seems natural, it was not an accepted concept at the time, freedom of the seas as we know it now is a concept shaped by the US:

>The United States' allies Britain and France were opposed to this point, as France was also a considerable naval power at the time. As with Wilson's other points, freedom of the seas was rejected by the German government.
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>>80532829
Israel is a potential disruption in the attempt to unite the islamic world (look at the "Great Caliphate" plans)

As one US diplomat said - if Israel didn't exist, it would have to be invented
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>>80536190
>>80535183
>>80532829
Long story short, US was/is making a lot of money through trade.
But the Israeli-Egyptian wars shut down the Suez canal limiting international trade and making it more expensive.
Especially elongating the route of oil tankers traveling from the Persian gulf to the US, now forcing them to circumnavigate Africa.

Furthermore, making the peace agreement has been a major US victory during the cold war. A much needed one after the Vietnam failure, which happened just a few years prior.

The US has shifted the most important ME Arab country at the time, by far the most populous one and with the strongest military from being a Soviet ally to being a US one, with a fraction of the cost of the war in Vietnam.

Furthermore, while 3bn$ is a lot, it's not just free money, most of it has to be used in the US market functioning de facto as a mil industry subsidy. You can guess how much the mil US lobby loves this.

It's also used as a leverage (both against Egypt with the aid they get and against Israel). For example, forcing Israel to cancel it's fighter jet project in the 80's.
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Most Arab countries were in the process of secularizing and westernizing before Israel fucked it all up by disunifying the Arab world. Israel is to blame for Islamic extremism.
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>>80533809
>USS Liberty
Mistaken identity, the US has sunk dozens of UK ships in the last century.

>King David hotel bombing
What's the problem in that? a terrorist group who's members were hunted down by the Israeli to be gov, and handed to the British.
Moreover the British officials in the hotel were notified that a blast was coming the same morning by the terror group and were asked to evacuate. But they chose to disbelieve the wornings.

>9/11
It was your brothers, Ahmed.

>Jonathan pollard
The US spies on Israel as well, as well as on Germany, UK, France and so on.

>the Samson option (Israel has nukes pointed at every European capital city
That's a lie. It's a "theory" promoted by Israel hating liberals 'professors' of human studies in US collages. There is not a shred of evidence to it being real.

some idiot.
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>>80537055
>Most Arab countries were in the process of secularizing and westernizing before Israel fucked it all up by disunifying the Arab world.

The Arab world was never unified. If anything Israel as an arch enemy unified the Arab world.
Syrian and Egypt even tried to form a defacto union with one gov at some point as part of their efforts against Israel.

Wahabism was born a few centuries ago and was slowly spreading through the Muslim world, little to do with Israel.

The Muslims world was always radical to a great extent. It just never reached the west as much as there used to be a lot less of them there.
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>>80532982
do they actually help protect us and our business interests and shit like that?
>>80535183
ok kike i just want to cut the bullshit though - let's team up and glass the muzzies so our relationship isn't based off of a shitty mutual acquaintance AKA the entire middle east
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Why is Israel white when people born just outside are sand niggers?
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>>80532829
>stormfag shit
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>>80533421
Aryans will kill all Semites
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>>80538650
didn't mean it like that, just feel like i'm thoroughly versed in the real reasons so i'm wondering what the 'official' reasons are.
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>>80538587
Because we're a nation of immigrants, dumb goy.
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>>80538256
>do they actually help protect us and our business interests and shit like that?

Short answer: no.
Each country works for their own benefit (or what the leadership believe it is anyway).
Long answer: It's complicated.

The US has a lot of leverage in Israel, that means taking land to erect a radar base on a mountain in the south, or stuff like asking Israel to threaten Syria with war in the 70's as they were preparing to launch an invasion into US allied Jordan (at the time NOT an Israeli ally) to protect Jordan.

I would say that US probably is not getting 3bn$ worth of benefits from Israel on a yearly basis directly. However that's not factoring the US benefit from Egypt allying with you, or the Suez canal being opened as per the peace deal.
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>>80539125
how can we keep israel reasonably safe and also not send them a shit load of money all the time
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>>80539318
Israel would have been safe without that money. We did fine till the 80's when the aid kicked in.
It's just about 3% of our budget, we can manage.

It's more of a political tool at this point.
It allows the US to pull stuff like this with Israel:
>US halted Israeli arms transfer to Nigeria
>Transfers are reviewed to determine "consistency with US policy interests," US officials tell 'Post.'

^ the deal was canceled, the Helicopters were transferred to Jordan for free instead:

http://www.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-israel-jordan-idUSL8N0ZO15120150723

Israel has invested in a team that went to Nigeria, convinced them that they have a need to buy combat helicopters, negotiated etc.
US blocks it because of "humanitarian concerns", and sells their own helicopters literally just after:

>Washington: U.S. to Sell Apache Attack Helicopters to Nigeria
http://www.persecondnews.com/index.php/archives/item/4087-washington-u-s-to-sell-apache-attack-helicopters-to-nigeria
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>>80539318
That's far from the only such instance:

>U.S. Sidelines Israel in $13 Billion Polish Missile Defense Deal
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/05/15/u-s-sidelines-israel-in-13-billion-polish-missile-defense-deal/#

Guess who is going to sell Poland a missile defense system instead?

>http://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-opts-for-raytheons-patriot-air-and-missile-defense-system-1429635701

As I said, /pol/ is extremely ignorant on most issues. The US military industry is making a bank through their ability to pressure Israel out of arms deal with the military aid.
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>>80535269
She isn't Israel.
I love how the goys always pick the schizophrenic Jews when they try and call us out.
Get fucked, gentile.
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>>80540668
Yeah I posted this a while back - remember that /pol/ isn't one person though, there's lots of middle-of-nowhere neckbeards that come on and spew shit they hear from David Duke.
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>>80532829
because they're building a nice nationalist army motherbase between our eastern enemies. We legitimately need their army, as well as turkey's army in a legitimate war. china, russia, and north korea are 5 million strong, while we have 3-4 million with our closest allies.
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They are terrible ally who like typical Jews think we can only be friends if we pay them. Then again every ally of the US thinks we are their piggy bank for some new meme defense system. They can all go fuck themselves, but Israel uses the most false flags
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