Why do Americans go out of their way to defend automatic cars?
Are they just extremely insecure?
It seems like they need to justify themselves and make others believe that automatic is the "right" and better way to drive.
>implying it's not more insecure to believe operating a machine that has manual gears makes you more male than other men
back when automatics came out everyone wanted one
it wasn't until underage millennial tryhards with their lumbersexual fashion started acting like having a piece of shit manual was some kind of man card
it's literally ALL they have as "men"
so enjoy your cheap ass manual shitbox
>>80419963
It's just the economics of the situation
fuel is cheaper over here and the extra cost of buying an expensive automatic doesn't mean as much as in europe
also
>female transmission
Americans don't really make this argument. They just prefer an automatic because it's easier and sitting in traffic and riding the clutch is irritating.
In my opinion, manuals are best for hobbyist vehicles like muscle and sports vehicles and autos are best for commuter boxes.
What's wrong with automatic cars?
You don't control how much air comes through your nose by pressing your nostrils while feeling superior, do you?
>>80419963
Because it's easier in commuter traffic. And a modern auto is better if every conceivable way to a manual.
Also please explain how you could make a manual cvt?
>>80420315
I bet if you include the price of replacing your clutch an auto won't be that much different
fuck driving a manual in stop-and-go traffic.
>>80419963
>own three vehicles
>2 of them are manual
What the fuck are talking about? Manual is easier and cheaper to work on.
>>80419963
BAN ALL ASSAULT VEHICLES
>>80419963
automatic cars? only for women, automatic cars are absolutely degenerate
>>80419963
Automatics are shit. Newer ones are less shit, but they are still shit.
Who do Yuropeons go out of their way to defend real guns being banned?
I fucking hate driving, I've always been shit at it, but I've got to say that the automatic I rented in Cnada last year was such a pleasure to drive.
>>80420732
>knows shit about the cost of replacing clutch vs rebuilding automatic transmission
>>80421047
Yes because you would prefer to hold on to a phallic object while driving, how long are you going to stay in the closet for?
>>80419963
>ireland
>inventing or designing a car, ever
WEW
E
W
Shut up and keep making whiskey.
Faggot.
>>80421047
You sound like you have a huge chip on your shoulder about your masculinity dude.
manuals are shit here if you don't give a fuck about racing other cunts or wanting to be 2fast2furious4u. Traffic here is fucking horrible (especially in Auckland) and the terrain is way too fucking hilly.
If you purely just want to get to A to B a manual is a pain in the ass cause in Auckland you're going to be stuck on start-stop for your entire commute and on steep as fuck hills
It used to be a sign of luxury to buy an expensive automatic.
>tfw drove a powerglide once and I'm not so sure about the power but it sure did glide
>never knew what gear it was other than hum and go
>brakes not so much
And so then it was a tool of the Jews, just like selling cracks to blacks, to subjugate the lazy population on the latest gizmos and gadgets.
>>80419963
We need one hand for the steering wheel and the other hand for burgers and Big Gulp.
>mfw europeans literally too poor and too cucked by environmental regulations to afford automatics
Why do euros always try to spin this as a bad thing? Auto is safer and more convenient, the only downsides are the higher complexity/cost and the small amount of loss and decrease in fuel economy.
>he doesnt have a car with both
Tiptronic is a thing, eh
>>80421349
>>80421275
>autism
>notice flags of posters
>kek
>>80419963
Manual makes driving more enjoyable but automatic is much more convenient in stop-start city traffic.
>>80421370
That sounds ideal for manual. The springs in mine for locating the lever went out the other month so now it's like searching around for gears in a tractor. It's so much more fun then ever before.
Every excuse is best excuse to find the next gear.
It's either a car autist, redneck, or guy that thinks he's more of a man for driving a manual. That's the only people that give a shit
>>80419963
>current year
>not knowing about drive through restaurants
>not knowing about drive in theaters
>not knowing Americans invented cars large enough to fuck in
Hey potato, there are more things to do in a car than stroke off the stick.
>>80421443
Tiptronic isn't manual
>>80419963
I wouldn't say it's a matter of right and wrong. If you live in the city, it's a hassle to use a manual. The car I just purchased a month ago is an automatic, and it feels weird not having to shift when I'm by my house in the suburbs. But when I'm in the city, I don't miss my stick in the least.
Why do dumb European drivers think the US is one big highway?
>>80421747
>tfw driving mom's automatic and you stop down on the brake pedal out of habit because you thought it would be the clutch
>>80421670
Can can change gear as you wish, aint that manual?
>Having a transmission in your car in the first place.
>>80420338
This, I hate driving manual in traffic. Automatic is for commuting and manual is for fun. But those are just my hot opinions man.
We drive LUXURY cars that shift themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNDap8YCc7A
>"I drive manual, but you can barely even tell with how I shift :^)"
This is my favorite meme. Always jerking around. I understand how manual can be better for some things, but they are fucking delusional if they believe they can make it have as smooth of a ride as automatic.
>>80419963
Circumcised dick, circumcised car...
>>80421047
>Denying efficiency and subjecting yourself to more work in order to boast about how cool you are
Nobody's going to give a shit if you're manually shifting your grocery getter. Manual drivers are the equivalent of vegans in the sense that they have to let everyone know how talented and brilliant they are for doing something so simple.
>driving manual in a congested city
No, thanks.
>Europeans too stupid to manufacture an automatic transmission
How's it feel, living in Africa 2.0?
>>80420315
unless you're buying literal bargain basement cars like corollas or rios, not only will automatics be the base (cheaper) option, but a manual probably wont even be an option
>>80421234
automatics last pretty long, at least as long as the engine itself (before needing a rebuild) unless they were shittily designed from the getgo, with no problems outside minor electrical parts replacement
clutches can reliably reach 100+k unless you live in seattle or some other hilly stop and go nightmare, so its only going to need 1-2 replacements in the average lifespan of the car ownership
the cost difference is negligible, just buy what you want. if you think manuals are some sort of man card thing you're a fucking moron though, because even the dumbest of teenage girls can learn to drive a manual after a few evenings in a parking lot
>>80421891
You can simulate gear shifts in a CVT transmission but that doesnt qualify it as a manual transmission.
>>80421999
This is why you will never have our gun laws.
Congestion driving is how you learn to play a standard transmission like you're jimmi hendrix.
>>80421868
I did that years ago myself, Anon. You're not alone.
>>80419963
If you're spinning that crank, you're a faggot.
I am an American and drive a manual. It isn't riced out either. I hate automatics and would never own one. Best part is nobody wants to borrow my car, worst part is people want me to teach them to drive stick.
I do hate my manual in stop and go traffic as well as when people get on my ass at a red light on a hill though.
>not pushing the left foot in
>not pushing the right foot in
>not pulling the ledt foot out
>not sliding all about
How am I supposed to catch pokemon AND drive if I have to manually select gears and work a clutch when I'm stopped?
Seems needlessly dangerous familia.
>>80419963
automatics are for lazy fucks.
There would be far less car accidents with a majority standard.
>>80422142
>people borrowing cars
What kind of shit underclass neighborhood do you live in where this happens?
>>80419963
Most Americans have never drove one, as automatics are predominantly sold here. Lack of knowledge of them intimidates non-manual drivers and they think it's some complicated dangerous thing. That said, there are still plenty that prefer it.
hurrr using the address book function to call someone is for cucks, i always dial the whole number manually durr im a real man
>More expensive
>Shorter life
>More complex
>Extremely expensive to fix
>Only modern ones have 4+ gears
>Only modern ones have a chance at getting better EMM PEE GEES
>Can't bump start
>Must rely on "sport mode" to have fun
Why would I want an automatic, exactly?
>>80421467
>contribution is purely attention-seeking and totally devoid of value
>notice flag
>entirely unsurprised.
Yeah just keep patting yourselves on the back. You're not fiddling while Rome burns at all.
>>80422409
>his phone has an address book function
>>80422054
>How's it feel, living in Africa 2.0?
Well on average America has more niggers compared to the majority of African states.
You should be more than qualified.
>>80419963
What are you talking about? I've literally never heard this before in my life.
>>80422157
This guy gets it. Always fun to play Group B on old private roads.
>>80421868
That's just incompetence dude.
Black people can't steal manuals just sayin
>>80422110
>learn to play a standard transmission like you're jimmi hendrix.
Is operating a shifter seen as such a difficult skill to learn it actually gives you bragging rights in Burgerland?
I don't want to step on and off the clutch for hours every day in slow traffic. You can keep your bragging rights tbqh.
*clap* *clap* *clap*
Look at this expert manual gear operator
*clap* *clap* *clap*
Hope you're happy now. Sorry you had no strong father figure in your household senpai.
I only had manual cars so far. I like to be able to set the RPM range I'm driving in. If you're used to driving manual it isn't complicated and doesn't require concentration.
>>80421275
>>80421275
>>80421349
>>80421996
A men must know how a car works, If you only can think in a phallic object you're gay.
degenerate millenials men, you are fucking cuck muuhh I don't know anything about how cars works can anybody call a real man?
>>80422414
Because I own a motorcycle and a muscle car. I don't need to go fast in my fucking corolla.
>>80422414
automatics have largely had 4+ gears for literally like 30 years
but since you probably couldnt afford anything but a 1978 civic, that's probably modern to you
>>80422414
So you can finger fuck your girlfriend whilst you drive fucktard.
>>80422676
>Is operating a shifter seen as such a difficult skill to learn
Yes. It's sad.
Good way to prevent others from wanting to borrow your car.
It is also the best anti-theft device on older cars.
>>80421030
Lol I love these, they're so goddamn expensive though. Literally the same mechanically as my 2013 F150 xlt for 25k more to subtract the bed and add 2-3 seats.
>>80422817
I've driven a number of cars made in the late 90s that still had 3 speed autoboxes.
They were absolute shit.
>>80420732
The clutch in my BMW is the one it came with (20 years ago). If you know how to clutch it won't wear that fast.
>>80422676
It is, unfortunately.
But my sister's highschool boyfriend taught me how to work it out in basically one trip around the the neighborhood. After that, I could do it better than my dad. And my boss with the sports car was just embarrassing, and he was embarrassed as well because we were both getting slapped around every time he tried to use the clutch.
>>80422354
Middle-class white. Sometimes a GF or friend has their car in the shop and wants to borrow my car and I just take my motorcycle.
>>80422871
What about these?
Funny how automatic transmission never caught on in France even though that's where it was invented.
>>80423157
tru but automatic rifles caught on pretty good amirite?
>>80419963
It's funny, I constantly see faggot europeans like you OP going after Americans and automatics, but the only time I see Americans start defending them is once some prissy eurofag starts a "muh manual is superior" thread.
You don't like autos? You're a faggot for driving a car with power steering and abs.
>He can't pump the brakes on his own
>He needs help turning the wheel
WHY AREN'T YOU A REAL MAN YOU TATER MUNCHING CUNT?
>>80419963
Standards get tiresome I drove an 03 civic standard for 8 years until I finally got sick of it and bought a 92 cutlass wagon. Way easier to eat, smoke, text while driving
>>80419963
ONE POST BY THIS ID
SAGE
REPORT
HIDE
>>80423295
>You're a faggot for driving a car with power steering and abs
>Implying my car has either
I like to have fun m80
>>80420975
This...
>be me in California.
>1st
>2nd
>3rd
>2nd
>3rd
>1st
>2nd
>1st
>2nd
>1st
>2nd
>3rd
>1st
>2nd
>1st
>2nd
>1mile
Fuck that nonsense. Too exhausting.
>>80423298
dude eating with a standard is all the fun, especially if it's all broken and you have to manualy knock the turn signal back off and run all the dials and knobs and the dashboard while your juggling your food and tossing gears around.
You're just a lulzkiller that's all
>>80419963
It's easier desu
>>80419963
Sorry if you can't handle our advanced technology Ireland, now piss off to your shitty little potato fields and stop taking our jobs.
>>80423439
And I bet it's tiny as fuck too. It stops being fun when it's a loaded pickup and the fucking hose has blown out on you on a trip back home.
My first car was a shitty little colt with no power steering and abs, and that little turd was a blast even with 90hp.
The Ram in my backyard? Less so.
>>80419963
I'm a control freak so I prefer stick and I also drive a lifted SUV. Stick is much better offroad than auto except for say a desert runner
I absolutely hate when an auto upshifts on a hill at lower RPM's
>>80419963
you are insecure.
>>80423730
The belt snapped on mom's van once when she was trying to go low speed around the corner and all of a sudden I thought I was watching Olympic wrestling. Funny as fuck.
>>80423730
>Stops being fun when it's a loaded pickup and the fucking hose has blown out on you on a trip back home.
Yep, fuck that. It's a small two door funcar from the late 70s-mid 80s that I swapped with a more modern 2.0T engine.
>>80423298
If you can't do all that while driving stick, you suck at driving stick.
Be better.
>>80421433
Autos are empirically less safe, esp. with careless idiots in parking lots
>>80423987
It's easier you mong. Fucking reading comprehension.
>>80419963
I wouldn't buy an auto car personally except for some of the high end twin clutch ones.
For some reason auto's caught on in the US and for most people it makes their daily commute easier so I won't fault them for it. I just anyone with an automatic doesn't like cars and is probably a huge fag.
Disgusting to see how many faggots prefers automatic cars, fucking beta males... don't talk to me o my wife's son ever again
>>80419963
I don't drive a manual, I don't change my own flat tires, and I don't change the oil myself.
Why? Because I'm fucking lazy. I can buy and automatic car, I can call roadside assistance, and I can afford $45 to have someone change my oil. Why do shit if you don't have to?
>>80423298
>92 cutlass wagon
/pol/ never ceases to surprise the fuck out of me.
>>80424123
I'm drunk and I'll comprehend what the fuck I want darling.
I'm sorry. WHY DID SHE LEAVE ME?!
>>80419963
Automatic is easier. I wouldn`t say it`s better. Probably some routine mental work can help against autism.
>>80424181
>for most people it makes their daily commute easier
>I won't fault them for it
>anyone with an automatic...is probably a huge fag
wew lad
if you can't drive a manual, you're a girl
>>80424312
Why pay $45? That's outrageous
>>80424312
All this is fine if you can assure me that you know how to do thid stuff yourself.
If you cant then millenial faggot basement dweller detected
>>80420338
/thread
>>80424260
>using a fork for fried eggs
What the fuck is that nigger doing?
>>80424432
I have a truck so it takes more oil and there is nothing wrong with dropping $90 a yeah, it's not even that much money.
>>80419963
You literally can't find a new manual car in america. Maybe that's why
>>80420338
this
>current year
>having any gears
Gears? Where we're going we don't need gears.
>>80424446
Yeah I know how to do all of it, I used to do a lot of work on my car when I was young and a "street racer" but like I said, I'm lazy now I'd rather pay someone else to do it.
>>80424575
>2016
>internal combustion engine
baka senpai
>>80419963
Why would anyone want a manual car? What are the pros? It's so much more relaxing to drive automatic, are you guys some sort of luddites?
As far as I know all modern trucks, buses and cars are starting to be automatic, why hang on the past? I'm sure you guys want your cars started by cranks too?
>>80419963
are you racing? if not its more reliable that manual because your less likely to strip a gear and who gives a fuck if you can edge out more performance if your not made of money
>>80424575
>CVT
gtfo of here with that shit.
Why the fuck japan refused to send us the dual clutch manumatic idk
Fit/jazz is an excellent vehicle that has been detuned for reasons unknown
>>80424322
Only had 23000 miles and cost me 3 grand after fixing fuel pump and sensors
The best anti theft device in America for cars is a manual transmission.
>>80423440
yeah not doing that shit in rush hour commute after work every day. i just need to get from A to B and be done with it.
my old man taught me how to drive on a manual, but ill only buy a manual when i get an exotic car, which is never since im a poor faggot.
>Why do Americans go out of their way to defend automatic cars?
>I got into an argument and ONE (1) American disagreed with me
Automatic is objectively superior for first-time drivers however stick shift is far better once you become more acquainted with vehicles.
>>80420338
Absolutely. I can't be bothered fiddling around with the fucking transmission when I'm trying to browse the web on my phone.
>>80424552
Chevy Cruze or whatever it is has a manual option. It kinda sucks though. My girlfriend has one with a manual anyway, I don't remember what year it is.
In the states non sports car Manuals are getting harder to find. Even trucks are mostly autos now. Automatics are a ton more reliable than they used to be. Gas mileage difference is narrowed with CVTs and 5+ speed autos. And in an automatic, clutch replacement is a non issue. I myself prefer a manual, but when I got my Toyota an automatic was cheaper and easier to find.
>>80424884
>stick shift is far better once you become more acquainted with vehicles.
No... It's actually obnoxious.
>>80424726
It gives you something to do when you're bored.
>tfw you heel-toe a 2-1 downshift and it's smoother than an auto
>>80419963
i saw this same pic on /v/ talking shit about automatic cars in games like 30 mins ago.
grow up you drunk. you shouldnt be driving under the influence anyways.
>>80424795
>cost me 3 grand after fixing fuel pump and sensors
I love when people sell me cars cheap because they don't realize how easy a fix they have on their hands.
I bought a 98 4runner 3.4 with 120k miles for 3k. All i needed to do was replace the rear main seal.
>>80424884
There are zero pros for stick shift unless you're driving on a racing track.
>>80419963
Just bought my first automatic vehicle (2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport) after being a steadfast manual transmission driver. Automatics have greatly improved since the 1990s and many offer a semi-auto mode to help with fuel economy and prevent the ECU from doing dumbshit.
Manual transmission in America is largely obsolete as we use automobiles on a daily basis for everything since most medium to small sized cities and towns lack a viable public transit system. Furthermore, no other driver gives you room on hills making starts in a manual a perilous experience for neophytes.
Also F1 is semi-auto. My Jeep is closer to Scuderia Ferrari than your rusty Miata.
>>80425052
Wow what a naughty boy, I bet you feel just absolutely devilish after such a disagreement.
>>80424793
Nothing wrong with a cvt
>>80424552
This isn't true.
They are a bit rare though or you might have to order it special before a dealership can get one to you.
>>80424812
>best anti theft device is a manual transmission
>implying it isn't a boiler that takes half an hour to get up to temperature
>>80425185
Except it's not a deisel-electric
>>80424709
Lol, who cares when you average 40+ MPG.
>>80422414
Automatics
>Same price if not cheaper available on most base model cars
>Same life if not better or at least more consistent wear
>More part doesn't equal more complex
>You can find 6 speed automatics back to the late 60s
>Fuck fixing it, transmission swaps cost ~$500 for manual or automatic.
>Fun is subjective, drive a Fuckus
Why would you ever bump start a fucking car, a motorcycle makes sense because you can do it easy enough by yourself, but a +2500lb car is a different story, just ask somebody for a jump. I have owned two 2007 ford focus's one in auto one in manual and neither ever got more than 29mpg and they both fell apart and died at 250,000 miles. The auto had the advantage of not needing a working hand brake to pass safety inspection.
>>80424838
>ill only buy a manual when i get an exotic car
Why most automatics shift more effectively than manuals nowadays. The only reason I'd have a manual is if I had a 4 wheel drive jeep and did a lot of off roading.
>>80424726
>What are the pros?
>More control in general
>Better in snowy/off-road conditions
>Cheaper maintenance
>Fun
>tfw perfect rev matching.
>>80425212
Even better
>>80424552
>complex
2016 Toyota Tacoma and Corolla come with manual options.
>>80419963
All the 60k + sports cars are going to 8 speed automatic
found the poor fag here
>>80425225
The fuel method has little to do with the transmission type
>>80419963
>Are they just extremely insecure?
Yeah, I mean come on.. they do the same thing with almost everything including their own circumcision. I'm pretty sure you can pick out a white/cracker posting under an american flag (or any flag for that matter) just by how insecure their post sounds.
This is their normal state of being, total garbage
>>80425269
>tfw offroading is one of the legit excuses for an auto
>>80424312
I drive stick and do all the same shit, live in an apartment so am limited in what I can actually accomplish/do maintenance wise, but I know how do to it
>>80420297
I'm used to driving gear cars, but now I'm driving an automatic, both have it good sides, but still i'm prefering the gear cause it is better for speeding
>>80421047
Do you even have cars on your country?
>>80425340
Do you know what a diesel-electric is? It means you have a diesel engine (smoke-puffing supercharged two-strokes highly popular) running a genset to power your electric motors driving the wheels.
How would you classify that transmission type?
>>80425185
>nothing wrong with a cvt
why the fuck does it feel like an auto trans slipping gears?
Why the fuck do I want my car to sound like its in first gear straight through 50 mph?
How are you going ti convince me to go to a dealership to repair a cvt for $4500?
>>80419963
got a Quaife 6 speed in my datsun 510
race me
>>80425518
Thats not the transmission that's the drive train
>>80423036
This. I'm an oldfag and the only thing clutch related I've ever had to replace was 1 clutch cable, 5 quid and 10 mins of time.
>>80425612
Tell me more about the transmission
>>80419963
I never drove an automatic but the manuals sucks alot, so much unnecessary lever switch.
>>80419963
That's funny last time I checked the BMW M5 was offered in manual only in the US market for two generations now.
>>80420338
>when the leaf makes a non-shitpost
>>80425519
>auto trans slipping gears?
It doesnt use gears
>repair a cvt
No more maintenance than an automatic
You're more likely to have to do maintenance on a standard that an automatic or cvt
>>80425077
I don't think so, I've driven both and shifting gears is not really so frequent that I could call it something to do to pass time.
Sometimes it's fun to do, but when I'm in a new city and really have to focus on the traffic and roads, I much rather focus on where I need to go than gears.
Manual/automatic comparison to me is like hearing someone saying diswasher users are being lazy for not washing their dishes manually. If there is way to make life easier why not do it?
>>80425260
>2007 ford focus
I had an 01 focus. I literally changed everything on it minus the transmission. Damn that car was shit but I got 11 years out of her. I heard after 06 they got way better. In '14 I was getting a new car, almost got me another focus but I opted for a Tacoma instead. As much shit that car gave me I miss her.
>>80425276
I would agree with everything except cheaper maintenance. An auto will last a long time with periodic fluid changes. A manual will eventually need a clutch. Depending on the car it can be pretty pricey. My sister got a clutch put in her Mini at the tune of $2500. It would take a lot of fluid changes in an auto to match that.
Never in my entire life have I driven a manual car. I'm 23 years old and I've had my license since I was 15. How do you even get a manual car? Everything I've ever owned was a hand-me-down car and an automatic. Why would I want to pay more to be inconvenienced? I can barely afford a car to begin with.
>>80425806
i know it doesn't use gears, im saying it feels like a slipping auto and that's what sucks about it.
>repair a cvt
Are the stats out yet on Hondas cvt reliability?
I never understood hatred of automatics especially if you don't have a car that is built for racing or high speed like a Corvette or something.
The fact is manuals are just a huge inconvenience that make you jerk off a metal rod constantly as you are driving and modern automatic shift more effectively then most drivers can anyway.
Professional automatics (not the type typically found in your average car) can even shift more effectively then professional drivers.
>>80423440
Knock the fucker into neutral and coast and look further than the car in front of you and its much easier.
>>80425814
Maybe I'm a bit different because I only use a dishwasher when hosting a party or cleaning up after a house full of disgusting college bros and the volume of things to wash is out of control.
But the whole fun of standard is getting it down to where you can flip it around without even thinking, and also look at the map etc. while you're at it.
>>80425276
Not really that much more control, not like you are towing in a car and need not engine brake, and if you do most autos have a 1,2,3 selection that is more than enough.
From my experience here in Northern NY and Canada a manual isn't at all helpful in the winter. The clutch gets much heavier when cold starting in -30 or -40 freedoms plus to prevent your tires from breaking loose every time you start from a stop you have to slow down on the clutch, increasing clutch wear.
Again there is this point about maintenance but I don't think I have ever had to do anything to my transmissions and all three cars I have ever owned have gotten over 200,000miles before I got sick of them.
I wouldn't say a manual is anymore or less fun than an automatic, you just usually find them on sport cars which are mainly fun because they are sport cars.
>>80426038
>Corvette
Has an amazing auto transmission now and is actually recommended by Chevy as opposed to the manual option.
>>80426096
Is dish soap too expensive?
Yes, this transmission designed by some of the world's greatest engineers that operates a million times faster than a human being is stupid.
Me? I ride a horse to work everyday where I work on pagers
>>80426252
What do you think I use to manually (literally manually, as in with my hands) use to clean my dishes?
>>80419963
BAN FULL AUTOMATIC ASSAULT CARS.
>>80426057
>Knock the fucker into neutral and coast and look further than the car in front of you and its much easier.
I won't lie, if I tried this, the car would likely stall.
I know how to drive standard trans, however, I only did it for 2 weeks before my grandmother have me her 84 buick regal.
Never drove standard again.
I was a serial text and driver and soft drink and driver as well
>>80426346
Sand and a river
>>80426285
lol if you think some base model shitbox ford has some super advanced automatic that gets better mileage than a manual
>>80426367
I already said that fag.
>>80421030
>>80426367
NOBODY NEEDS A MILITARY GRADE ASSAULT CAR
>>80426057
You obviously never driven in California traffic. I wish it were that simple.
>>80426218
A modern clutch will do 200k+ if driven well.
>>80426038
>be me, drive a car with manual transmission
>"Hey anon, can I borrow your car?"
>hand them the keys and they walk off
>5 minutes later they bring the keys back with sad face
>"Oh, you can't drive stick? Go ask Tammy Lynn if you can borrow her Geo Storm."
>>80426500
Its not about needs its what I want and it is my right not privilege
This applies directly to me so I'll give my two cents. I own a Mustang, a 2005 specifically, and it's a great car even though I only take semi-decent care of it these days. I love the car, women love my car, but some douchebags don't love my car because it's an automatic. That is to say that I frequently get people chastising me for not getting a manual once I tell them what kind of car I own. They make some kind of big deal about it being an automatic, and frequently conversations about my car involve people telling me that I should've gotten a manual instead.
At this point, I like to remind people that automatic cars can change gears faster than the fastest NASCAR driver, and that driving a stick would be an especially huge pain in the ass over the long distances that I typically drive.
TLDR it's because they force us to.
>>80424793
I've got a nice one in my GTR.
>>80426096
I don't use diswasher either because I can't get one fit in this tiny apartment and I wouldn't have a connection for it either, but it saves a lot of time and energy in the long run. There's nothing proud or good to do every single thing the hard way.
>>80426546
Now try an upgrade. Get a hotspotted flywheel and then try to be smooth without it getting too loud. This could require an above-zero degree of finesse on the gas pedal, but you need that anyway if you're not driving a super eurobeat special.
Now you're learning to drive.
>euro peons talking about muh car culture
Australians have more right to that than you fuccbois.
Now go make another cut v. uncut thread as you dream of other men's cocks.
>>80425873
>2500
About 500 quid here
>>80426228
If it's not a paddle shift dual clutch into the trash it goes.
Fuck Chevy they want the geriatric market
>>80426620
>geo storm
Fuck yea, if I could buy a geo metro in good condition I'd jump on it.
People report 56 mpg with the standard trans.
>>80426616
I know I simply got sick of the cars after 200k mi an decided to replace them with something without holes in the seat and without a tail pipe held up with old coat hangers.
>>80419963
this is pol nigger
>>80426495
>I already said that fag.
>>80426681
Thats different faggot.
>>80426038
eh, manuals are fun to drive if you're just out for a joyride, although it really depends on the car
for example, driving an automatic Miata feels completely wrong, and putting a manual transmission in a Volvo S60 would be pointless
My new car has a sportronic shifter. Auto or paddleshifted.
>>80426676
V6 owner detected
ALERT
V6 owner detected
Either drive it off a cliff or put a LS1 in it so you can troll mustang meets
>>80426973
Nice ad hominem .
>>80426038
You know I've never really considered jerking off when I'm not in 5th gear already. Maybe I should try working two sticks at one time.
>>80419963
>Why do Americans go out of their way to defend automatic cars?
I've never noticed this pretend phenomenon.
But they are easier to drive for old people and stuff.
>>80422142
Hows being 17 going?
>>80426385
It is the same as anything new really, it takes a bit of practice but it quickly becomes something that you just do without actively thinking about it.
>>80426676
Buying an automatic Mustang.
Holy shit, what a god damn loser.
I bet its probably a v-6 as well.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
who would want manual transmission in this?
>>80426892
Here's one for sale in PA for $500
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Geo-Storm-SOHC-VIN-6-Engine-75k-miles-runs-good-ZG0875-J-/322185985482?hash=item4b03c7fdca:g:iFUAAOSwYmZXF8v9&vxp=mtr
Geo stopped making cars almost 20 years ago though, not sure what the parts situation is going to be like.
>>80424260
wife's car desu senpai
>>80419963
manual is for luddites.
>>80426892
The amount of money you would spend to keep one of those pieces of shit running would probably negate the fuel mileage.
>>80425248
DELET THIS
>>80419963
>make others believe that automatic is the "right" and better way to drive.
Because it is. Why wouldn't you go with the simpler easier to operate choice? That's what building machines is for.
>inb4 manual takes the fun out of driving
Driving isn't for fun, it's for going places. Nobody sits down in their car and says"wow, this driving will sure be fun", they say "I'm here and want to be there, let's do this shit".
>>80427434
Thats a v6 storm
Id like a i3 metro
>>80426546
Well I have narrow streets and heavy traffic to deal with , lots of stop start.
Just doing those two things makes it much easier.
I think manual cars are a lot more fun to drive.
Automatic cars are just easier.
>>80426676
your stupid girl's car automatic doesn't "shift faster than a nascar driver"
you drive a fag car
>gears being in a transmission and not in your legs
>>80427410
Los Angeles. Not even once.
>>80426038
So your dad never taught you how to drive a manual transmission, huh?
>>80427434
>mirin unpainted bondo job
>be she's a steal
>>80427459
Wifes sons car baka
>>80422840
>implying the average 4chan user has a gf
>implying anyone who spends Saturday evening arguing about transmission types on a Mongolian knitting BBS has any real chance of getting a gf
>>80421003
Automatic costs less in America since the majority are produced as automatics
>>80427539
Whoops, came up in a search for Metro. Keep on dreaming...
Anybody else hate it when noguns and nocars europeans talk about shit they know nothing about. Fact of the matter is, you've never held a gun in your life and ride a bicycle to work every day so shut your fucking mouth about such topics.
>>80424552
You can, its just not that easy.
What you definitely can't find now is a manual truck... that is really fucking stupid. I need a truck for work, and I want it to be as cheap as possible to operate and maintain. Modern automatics do get better fuel economy now, but only marginally. They are far more expensive to fix and far more prone to malfunction though. Fuck this shit.
Even with cars its getting shitty though. Many manufacturers only offer manual transmission on the higher level trim packages. So again, the people who would benefit most from them, poorer people, are getting shit on because manuals are now artificially more expensive.
>>80427539
They didn't make v-6 storms. 6 is the engine code in the vin number,
>>80426676
Mustangs are literally the most pleb tier car I can imagine.
It is sad when I see people driving theirs around like it is some big deal.
Congrats, your "muscle" car cost 5K more than a new Ford Focus
>>80427410
sim city why have you forsaken me
>>80419963
My automatic makes it easier to finger your girlfriend while Im driving
>>80427496
Top kek, I know, geo was shit but the design with a manual and 3 cylinder engine was awesome.
I hear ford has a 3cyl fiesta. However its likely 3200 lbs.
>>80420297
>I killed the engine on my first time driving a real car and I'm STILL butthurt. Good thing mommy and daddy bought me a nice automatic!
insecurity confirmed.
R8 my car /pol/ it has manuel transmission.
>>80427776
Gotcha, I glanced too quickly.
>>80419963
Manualfags are like the people who think 1911s are superior to Glocks for self defense.
Nobody but other manualfags takes you seriously.
>>80427785
You sound pretty butt-hurt.
Mustangs are fun cars as long as you get a v-8 and a manual transmission.
v6 and smaller engine or a v-8 with an automatic is pleb tier. Also mustangs from 1971-2004 are also pretty pleb tier.
Also I bought a new focus as my commuter car a few years ago and it was only around 15k new. You're looking at least 10k more for a Mustang, probably 15k more for a GT.
When we came home from rescuing you in WW2. A lot of our service members were injured and couldn't drive manual cars. That is why automatic transmissions became widely popular in America.
>>80420297
Why do Americans have to get this butthurt about everything?
>>80427907
> > manuel transmission
> manuel
> trans
spic
>>80427976
If by self defense you mean cc then yes.
>>80427987
Do you even own a car?
>>80427980
This is Canada tier shitposting
>>80427761
>What you definitely can't find now is a manual truck
This is for 2015 but it may help you
http://www.tfltruck.com/2015/03/want-a-pickup-with-manual-transmission-comprehensive-list-for-2015/
Im a burger and every vehicle i own is a manual.
>>80427690
>Mongolian knitting BBS
Your newfag is showing, everyone knows the Laotians won the board from the mogolians in a russian roulette game 2 hours ago.
There's nothing wrong with it. You must be insecure if you go out of your way to point out how superior you are.
>>80427987
You don't even own a car you tricycle riding faggot
>>80427976
You really don't have to be this mad that you never learned how to drive a manual transmission.
Did your mom's boyfriend never take the time to teach you?
>>80427907
R8? Lmfao that's not your car, you know why? Because thats a mazda speed3 you fucking tard xD
>>80428018
Top kek
>>80427976
Agree.
But if we are being perfectly honest, .45 is a lot more ideal than 9mm in a lot of true defense situations that aren't fire fights. 1911 is just an iconic .45 gun. I truly believe people like the round more than the gun.
That's why 40S&W is the greatest round ever. Hits that perfect medium.
>>80419963
Once they circumcise your dick you just go "what's the point of it all?" and start buying automatic transmission cars. That's why it's so common over there.
>37
>drive in LA traffic every day
>never owned an automatic car
>women and betas can't drive my car so I'm always in the alpha seat whenever I go to a ball game
>"OMG anon you've had like 10 beers you can't drive!"
>"Can you drive stick? No? Move over faggot"
Feels good man
>>80427987
Americans are a contentious people. They argue about everything and they need to be right regardless of how dull or unimportant the topic.
>>80426474
My base model Mazda, which is built on the same platform as the base mod Ford shitbox, has all of those things in the auto trans.
>>80428093
Yes, I do. I don't consider it manly to own a manual, but it's cheaper to fix, and you have much more control.
>>80428469
Californians, everyone.
Californians.
>>80428469
>he thinks the drivers seat is the 'alpha seat'
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>80427987
>countries constantly want to bait Americans to feel good about themselves
>Americans respond
>y r u gettin' butt hurt tho?
>>80428429
>40S&W is the greatest round ever.
Please leave
>>80428469
>lives in LA
>alpha
Funnily enough, I didn't know how to drive a manual transmission car until I got my motorcycle endorsement.
It really isn't that hard. Once you find your car's "sweet spot," it's just as efficient as automatic.
>>80428522
I couldn't agree more.
It's going to be a real pain in the ass to find something as easy to fix when mine finally rusts out.
>tfw have a copy of the factory service manual to boot
>>80428469
Yeah I'm sure the police will just let that DUI slide on account of you being an "alpha"
>>80428442
Insecurity the post (and the thread). It's apparent you Europeans think about clean cut American dicks while you scrape the bacterial ridden cheese off your cock in the shower everyday.
>>80428783
>shower everyday
>european
oh boy here we go
Driving in the cities with a manual every day is enough of a reason to prefer automatic over manual.
>>80420338
basically this
i can't be bothered to shift gears when im going to work and i dont feel any more fancy changing gears in a damn family car.
>Driving on the left
>Steering wheel on the right
>Shifting with non dominant hand
Why
>>80428469
Driving drunk is degenerate nigger tier behavior. Nobody thinks you're cool. I hope next time you crash into a tree and paralyze yourself before you hurt someone with your retardation.
>>80428783
It's okay, man. The jew doctors can't hurt you anymore.
>>80419963
drive in an american city/califronia highway/city with a manual, then an automatic. Thats all the defense we need.
>>80428380
but it is it has the wanker engine with the spinning triangle even.
>>80428938
Europoors enjoy stroking their cocks with their right hand whilst stroking the bulls dick with their left.
Its some kind of gay sex thing
insecurity is putting importance on something other people don't care about and then bragging about it
driving manuals is not a skill and anyone can do it as evidenced by women in the early 1900s doing it with ease
>>80428619
You normally don't see other nationalities hastily making elaborate butthurt shitposts defending themselves and insulting the person asking.
Americans do it every single time.
All cars are going to be selfdriving within 10 years so this discussion is kinda dumb.
>>80429146
Excuse me my grandma refuses to drive anything recent on the fact that it's not a three speed.
>>80429083
>car thread
>talk about circumsized american cocks
Insecure tiny dick cheese faggot lmao
#RIPKevinCook
He was only reaching for his hot pocket.
Automatics are for old ladies. Only a fucking retard, old lady, or a cripple would drive one of those over a manual
>>80429206
> Willingly driving a soon-to-be-hacked death machine
Nei takk.
>>80429360
we're including mental cripples as well, right?
>>80429206
>10 years
Sure thing, on the 10th year over night everyone will ditch thier cars and buy self driving cars.
Meanwhile all the non self driving cars will be scrapped in one massive recycling effort .
All overnight
No buying used cars allowed
>>80419963
No, we're just smart enough to appreciate and embrace technological advancement, and convenience.
>>80429174
>Eurofaggots make threads and posts attacking Americans 24/7
>Expect that we don't defend ourselves when that happens
Go make more threads about European insecurity
>>80429233
are you implying that driving manual is a difficult skill because your grandma refuses to do it?
>>80429206
Except for the other 90% of cars and trucks on the road that were manufactured before that time and anything that is under $25k.
>>80429419
That's what retard means.
>>80429499
No, just that she's old and doesn't give a fuck so she makes up excuses to not have to deal with shit she doesn't care about.
Based stick shifting grandma.
>>80429499
Three speed is manual. Three on the tree and all that.
>>80419963
Where did this meme come from? Don't know, maybe because our cars are so much larger. Small euro style cars are usually bare-bones.
I don't know, is that what makes you guys so mad about our cars?
IF IT IS NOT AN ECOBOOST, YOU ARE A CU-
Oh shit I'm on /pol/. Yeah autos are superior in a lot of ways but when it comes to auto racing of any kind, manual reigns supreme. Unfortunately, you're stupid EG Hatchback piece of shit that's stanced and a manual is not a racecar and never will be.
>>80419963
I don't. I always prefer a standard. But I really don't know why other people in my country don't. Get this shit. There are a TON of people here that have no idea on how to even drive one.
>>80420338
Best post.
I can drive a manual, but driving an automatic is so much easier. I can drive a 10 speed double clutch, however I'd rather not have to.
>>80429122
Only the UK drives on the left, though. The rest of us make an effort to masturbate with our left hand. Either that, or just multitasking with the right hand.
>>80419963
Automatics are for faggots but at the same time once electric takes off it won't matter anyway, they're just like dodgems.
Pls don't generalize us, /o/ here, 2016 WRX 6-speed.
>>80429752
Best anti-theft device then.
>>80420338
This.
>>80428783
>defending circumcision
>on /pol/
Where are all of you coming from? Breitbart? Sherdog? Gamefaqs?
>>80429951
FATTU PIGGU GO HOME
>>80429809
But you're a europoor that rides a bike though, so both your hands are on the handlebars and there's none left to help scrape the cheese off your tiny little dick
>>80419963
>Why do Americans?
Trying to generalize the most diverse nation on the planet earth.
>>80419963
What? Who gives a fuck, just drive your damn car
>>80419963
It's a car. One is slightly simpler, the other allows slightly greater control, it comes down to preference and which one you're used to. Why do people pretend this is such an issue?
>>80419963
because the automatics have become so smooth and computer assisted that they are actually better. Personally I prefer manual because it's fun. Have had two manual cars >2 years each and loved them. A lot of $$$ cars have different modes for the transmission. Of course most of the super cars $$$$$ are mixtures of manual and automatic.
>>80419963
There is nothing more cancerous than car fags.
Whats next? Gonna start bragging about what kind of washing machine you own?
Cant wait till automated driving makes your "hobby" obsolete and illegal.
>>80430132
If you're not White, you're not an American.
>>80430210
>bikefag detected
>>80429870
>Automatics are for faggots
No one fucking cares anymore man. People just want to get from point A to point B. Driving with a clutch is something you can impress teen girls with.
Like I said, I can drive a 10 speed. Selector switch on the shifter to switch into sixth gear and go up to 10th. Double press the clutch to switch gears.
I can do it, I'd rather have an automatic.
Double however. Niggers can't drive stick. That means they won't steal your car.
>>80419963
Automatics are shit.
Have fun shelling out a couple grand every time the transmission goes out.
>>80421391
Wife's got a conical belt transmission in her new pathfinder. No gear changes, belt just slides up and down a cone for ratios.
>>80422840
This
>>80430372
>wife
I bet she's doing very well at finding "paths" with her "pathfinder."
>>80430372
I bet that's not all that's "sliding up and down a cone" if you get my drift.
I wonder what the "ratio" is.
>>80429494
Most countries respond to slightly rude questions with some self awareness and a sense of humor directed at themselves, but if it's directed at the USA, some American will immediately go full butthurt.
>>80430508
If you were to ask me to pick the country with the least sense of humor in the world, I would say Norway. That's based on years of internet experience with countries all around the world.
>>80430372
>conical belt transmission
It's called a CVT, and they fucking suck.
>>80419963
From what I understand manual is "better" in that it allows you to accelerate more quickly and so forth. There are probably some other advantages as well. Personally I don't really care though; I am not that into cars and see mine as a mode of transportation. I prefer automatic because it's one less thing I have to think about while I'm driving. I've owned manual cars in the past, though.
>>80430086
> Norway
> Poor
Top kek.
Leave the bantz to Australia. Right now you're just oozing of butthurt.
>>80422127
Underrated banter
>>80430648
>Cars are appliances!
Please consider suicide
>>80430508
The United States is a relatively young country, much like a teenager. We have realized that we process great strength, but are easily offended by the smallest thing.
Please understand that we are just now making our own name among great nations and wish to prove ourselves. We like and respect you, that's why we get so butthurt when you make fun of us.
>>80419963
Eat shit, paddy. You don't even have a car culture.
>I bet you fags use cable internet instead of dial up
Why would I use an outdated technology unless it's my hobby? The purpose of a car is to get you from place A to B, you won't get there any faster with a manual transmission and it is less effort to drive automatic.
If you enjoy driving, drive a manual. If you just need a car to drive from place to place, don't.
What is the purpose of this thread?
>>80427699
Also cheaper to insure.
>>80430887
The purpose of a car is to throw it into high gear and get off the pedal so it goes
BEEEEEERRRRRRRRUUUUUUHHHHHHH
really loud so as to offend everybody else so you can save gas and brakes at the same time to be good to the environment
>>80424432
If you make 150$ an hour, this is a money saver.
>>80429752
>>80430060
There was a carjacker here that got BTFO because he couldn't drive standard transmission:
http://www.koaa.com/story/32397793/follow-up-homeowner-speaks-about-carjacker-being-thwarted-by-manual-transmission
>COLORADO SPRINGS -
>Grand theft auto gone wrong... for the suspect. Colorado Springs Police say a man with a gun approached a person trying to steal their pickup truck, but soon realized he couldn't figure out how to get it started.
>You can file this case under America's dumbest criminals. A would-be carjacker thwarted by the ever elusive manual transmission.
>>80419963
Americans are really bad at driving and we aren't taught how to drive properly. It's one of the reasons we have so many traffic fatalities (that and drunk driving)..
>>80420297
you sound like a manlet
basically everyone except America drives a manual with no issues
>>80430627
Great for a ppl carrier. But yeah it loses like 20% power doesn't it?
>>80432159
And with anything that's bigger than about a mid-sized sedan you have a big risk of your tranny completely shitting itself and breaking.
>>80432159
Apparently they've gotten them to sound like regular pleb cars when in motion; most of the time I had no idea it was a CVT until I looked it up.
Just goes to show you how cucked it all is. Kind of like the cars the play engine tunes over the radio because the engine doesn't make nice noises on its own. How cucked can you get?
>>80430434
>>80430493
Summer af
>>80419963
How could the possibly be an issue? Who gives a shit about how our gears are shifted?
>>80432597
Try an automatic cuckshed next time. It'll be emotionally easier.
>>80431018
I do this in 3rd gear @ 70mph
Slowly going from 5500RPM to 3000RPM on an off ramp while my 84" Toyota P/U's clapped out exhaust pops and roars.
>I'm pretty sure it had a Cat when new, one day the exhaust was rattling and the truck was sluggish
>Just mashed the pedal and bounced it off the limiter
>*BANG*
>Exhaust is louder, crackles and pops and roars about as much as a 22R-E can
>that was 100K miles ago
I still have her, 15 years of faithful service, seen me from Highschool to retail, and now a cushy office job.
>>80419963
No one does this. Most people don't care. Manual transmission is only really needed in very high end sports cars or various types of work and construction vehicles. Like dump trucks and semis. Otherwise no one needs manual.
>>80432910
That's how you do it proper. I miss my old blast-popping carb car.
I was doing it once with an exhaust I'd made up because I was learning how to torch weld, but then the winter got the better of using literally coat hangers and it blew apart.
ARRARRRRAGAHAGHAGHAHGHAHAH
at anything over about 1800. Couldn't even creep it in to my parents' driveway at 2 in the morning for Thanksgiving.
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