http://www.vox.com/2016/7/9/12128686/vox-gun-image-survey-ban-firearms
>>80377826
here in NZ they want to ban fireworks
>>needing a flare gun
are you a sailor?
>>80377826
>Revolvers
The only gun on that list that should be banned is the UZI, since it is too easy to conceal and cause massive damage with. Everything else, including the MG3 should be legal.
>>80377826
There is literally no difference between the 500 and Montefeltro.
Liberals are also stupid because a person shot by a revolver is more likely to die than a person shot by an AR 15.
>>80377826
>tfw you own an MG3
>>80377826
>dowse the crowd with an accelerant
>shoot a flare in their general direction
Thatd probably put an end to legal flare gun ownership
>>80377981
>garden license
>>80378248
What are you talking about?
The m500 in that image has black furniture.
>tfw got a mossberg 500 years ago with obama stimulus.
>>80378248
Wood Grain makes a gun less scary to stupid liberals. If you showed them an M1 and a modern M14, they would want to ban the M14, even though they are basically the same gun.
>>80377826
I wish they had the mini-14 on their list.
It'ld probably be 2-3 times the approval of an AR-15 and really highlight just how little these faggots know.
>>80378173
Unless you get your hands on a fully automatic it has no benefit over say your every day handgun.
Plenty of drum and extended magazines you can get for pistols too so ammo count really isn't an issue.
>>80378438
That looks like I said 500 years ago.
I should probably say that I got it with my obama stimulus.
Which was 8 years ago.
By the way, amazing gun. And it came with a dowel/plug for upland fowl hunting. Which is about usual for around here.
>>80378462
>AK47 seen as more dangerous as AR15
>>80377826
>democracy
>vs rights
oh boy
>>80377826
If you dont think all of those should be legal, youre anti-American.
This speaks more to the jews control than peoples actual feelings on the issue, if they werent subverted, they would have a better opinion.
If all they did was show (dumb, normal) people the pictures of the scary guns, they misrepresented the super standard shotgun and the deer rifle pretty hard.
>>80378173
I could do more damage with a glock with a drum mag than the Uzi, and i could conceal many glock better than an Uzi
>>80377826
Flare guns are illegal in jersey
>>80377826
>12% want to ban flare guns
Explain this shit. Please, someone, explain to me how people become this delusional?
>>80378788
>put flare in break action shotgun
Welp.
>>80377826
>amount of wanted legality is directly correlated to the percentage of black a gun has
solution: switch to wood furniture
>>80378553
Sorry, I meant the automatic version. A semi-auto UZI is fine. I think automatic weapons should be legal if they are in a rifle or larger sized gun, but not in small arms. Don't want niggers with tiny, cheap full autos.
>>80378775
A glock drum mag is super unwieldy. I'd truly like to see you hit a target on the move with it.
>>80378887
It has a trigger and so do they.
>>80378940
You realize those small full autos are borderline uncontrollable right? A nig with an uzi wont hit shit. Especially since they like to shoot sideways.
>12% want to ban flare guns
i'm fucking sick of the goddamn fucking idiots in this fucking stupid coutnry
kill all the niggers
behead all the mudslimes
imprison all the leftie faggots who hate freedom
then when the country is 99% white we can reinstate democracy
>>80378977
or just an extended mag, either way i have as many rounds as the Uzi with better concealability not to mention its lighter
>Breivik's rifle is still legal in Norway
Why are Norwegians and Americans so fucking stupid?
>>80378887
they probably just read the word gun and were triggered
>>80378571
My guess is that the numerical difference is because commie gun.
>>80378173
reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CNRlQG0mg
>>80377826
>only cowboy guns won out in popular opinion
Guaranteed the only "gun owners" they interviewed were fudds that only think the 2A is meant for hunting. The pump shotgun was described as "high capacity" and the hunting rifle was called a "sniper rifle"
![17b9ed7d-db23-4a84-870d-5ed1727cb46c[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/2T5ApEJ.gif "17b9ed7d-db23-4a84-870d-5ed1727cb46c[1].gif")
>>80378928
Wood furniture looks so much better on most weapons anyway.
>>80378550
I was looking for the same thing in the list
>>80377826
>More afraid of the Mossberg then the Montefeltro Just because it's black
>The Remington is a mass killing machine due to the scope and tripod.
Why do people have so many strong opinions on things they will never educate themselves on?
>>80377826
>weapons not to scale
Ffs you guys are dumber than a brick
>>80379131
why not?
Honestly, why does anyone need to own anything other than a revolver or a bolt-action rifle?
One for defense, and one for hunting.
There is no good reason to have anything more.
>>80377826
Call me a crazy, but I believe no weapons should be illegal. Former dumbocrat here, red pilled by info wars last summer.
>>80379202
the only person that's stupid is you, pal. anyone who hates where they live should leave., you should leave your country and move to france since you hate it there so much.
>>80377826
I would be curious to see this same "survey" conducted with no names next to the guns.
>>80377826
that's the way it should be. autos take no skill at all
>>80379366
Leaffriend you're not wrong but this is seriously not an argument worth having.
>>80379397
>I believe no weapons should be illegal
Don't mind me, just driving my tank.
>>80379499
Learn to play, noob.
>>80378940
Uzi's in any shape or form are beyond the reach of any or most niggers. An automatic one would cost upwards of tens of thousands and no criminal with ill intent is getting that. Only way it would be an issue is if they obtained it illegally.
Most uzi's you see today that aren't here prior to some laws being made have extended barrels so they're not that small anyway because they have to comply with barrel lengths. You could still saw off the barrel but it's a lot more work when you could just lock and load with hand guns and as many large magazines as you can carry.
>>80377826
>retarded nogun leftcucks not understanding that AR-15s are just like any other semi-auto rifle, but with more bells and whistles
Do these retards not know that semi-auto 30.06s are some of the most common hunting rifles? It even has more stopping power than an AR.
>a shotgun loses 13% perceived legal legitimacy when it's painted black and has extra ammo strapped to it.
These people are idiots.
Are they polling women?
I guarantee women are the deciding factor in this.
>>80379366
>killed while trying to speedload revolver
I win
>>80377981
it truly is a slippery slope
>>80377826
Man, people are such fags
this just shows how non-objectively the look at guns
they just vote to be banned what should be the scariest looking
>>80378571
One is good guy American gun
One is bad guy Russian/terrorist gun
>>80379615
They don't, most don't even know they're different classifications of holsters.
>>80379397
People who sincerely want to cause bodily harm will find a way.
I want to be able to personally defend my rights, not cower like some swaddling youth whilst evil men try to take them away from me.
You will never take my freedom.
>>80379579
Tanks are street legal with only a few minor modifications and deactivated cannon.
>>80379615
If thirty odd sixes are more lethal than AR15s, why don't the military use them?
>>80379397
It's a utopia that will never be imagined. There will always be guns cause people can easily make them.
Laws mean nothing to criminals, they seek to circumvent them at every point.
Movies, video games and other media are the only source of informations on guns for every single anti-gun out there, so obviously they want the thing they see in the media the most banned. Color me surprised.
Would have been interesting to show more weapons, such as a 1911, a Glock, or non-scary long arms such as a Mini14, M1 carbine, M1 Garand, M1917, a musket...
I think it's about time a gun company develops a whole new gun with the objective of making it as less scary as possible while retaining the efficiency of a .223 semi-auto weapon. Like an innocent looking over and under shotgun with wood furniture which would actually shoot a single round of 12g with its top barrel and a semi-automatic, magazine fed, .223 shooting with the bottom barrel.
Sure it would be a fucking abortion, but would be kinda interesting to see the reactions from it.
>>80379397
Same, no you aren't crazy, you just quit listening to crazy people, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>80379758
>deactivated cannon.
Well then now it's ok to make some weapons illegal?
>>80379761
>If thirty odd sixes are more lethal than AR15s, why don't the military use them?
There's a lot more to the performance than "lethality" (rather nebulous term anyway).
>>80379579
I wish retarded Canadians would actually read the law. The gun on a tank is perfectly legal to own for the low price of a 200 dollar tax stamp. The ammo is also legal as long it contain under a quarter of an ounce of explosive or you get that same 200 dollar tax stamp for each round.
>>80378173
How about the Uzi since its Israeli made
>>80377826
Jesus Christ
Benelli Montefeltro
>12 Gauge Shotgun
>Semi-Automatic
>Wood (not scary)
Mossberg 500
>12 Gauge Shotgun
>Pump-Action
>Black (scary)
Benelli should be more legal than the Mossberg because scary blackness.
>>80377826
>vox
>does this gun look scary?
>>80377826
There is literally no reason to allow the general population have anything more than a handgun.
>>80379684
When the fuck are you in a scenario where you need to reload?
>>80378248
>>80378462
>>80377826
Pic related, and Browning Auto-5 shotgun.
It can fire five rounds in semi-auto before reloading.
I'm guessing dumb libucks would say this is less ban-able, because it's got a wooden exterior; and they'd think a pump-shotgun made of polymer would be more threatening.
>>80379314
>Why do people have so many strong opinions on things they will never educate themselves on?
Jews don't teach liberals how to think. They teach liberals how to obey.
Now let me tell you a joke about Republicans, goy. :^)
>>80379590
autos only lower the skill gap and will make the upcoming race war proper sweaty imo
>>80379780
Criminals are either money-motivated or lunatics, they don't break the law just for the sake of breaking the law.
>>80378550
>>80379684
>>80379631
>>80379615
>>80379609
WHO /saving up for infared andor night vision/ HERE!?
MUH SCARY BLACK GUNZ
Why are liberals so fucking retarded
>AK47
>66% want ban
>AR15
>62% want ban
Literally why?
>>80379544
>>80379366
>not wrong
But, he is wrong.
There's no reason to limit someone's choice of firearm.
>>80379869
You can't carry a loaded firearm on the road. It's not your property. It's federal/state property and they set the rules for how it's used. This is why you need a license. Canon might discharge and damage federal property.
And with proper paper work an activated canon is legal to own.
>>80378571
I'd be more scared of a 7.62x39mm than a 5.56 NATO round.
>the illegal rate starts massively rising once the furniture switches from wood to polymer
>>80380153
Yes there is. You're not being remotely objective and deep down, you know it.
>>80377826
>people don't give a shit about .44 Magnums or lever action repeaters
Fuck, really? Fine then, have at it. My 45-70 guide gun could bring down a grizzly in a twofer. Bring some style back to open carry.
>>80377826
>(((Vox)))
The irony to me is that the revolvers are definitely the most used for homicides, compared to the Rem. 700, Henry Golden Boy, or Moss 500
>They want the easier to hide and conceal, and statistically more dangerous one legal
kek and that is why you don't consult the public for policy matters
>>80380123
7.62x39mm vs 5.56 NATO
Or
Musician vs commie gun
>>80379094
They won't hit what they're aiming at yes which is likely going to be another gangbanger. Instead they'll hit even more kids and regular people sitting around minding their own business.
>>80380153
>You can't carry a loaded firearm on the road.
I should amend that.
You can, actually.
My mistake.
>>80380224
Objectively there's no increase in harm or risk to other people by allowing access to the same firearms.
>>80379973
>>80379366
>need
>>80380386
Not looking for a debate, this is as much about your feels as it is those of suburban moms. Can you at least admit that?
The remington 700 is actually my next gun and it is WAY more dangerous than my tavor. That shit is dangerous up to a huge distance and is a 308. It's a fucking sniper rifle for christ sake.
>>80379927
>the cucked German
>>80380197
Funny because this is what the nigger used in Dallas
>>80380185
>not building up your immunity to bullets by shooting yourself with smaller calibers to a build tolerance
shiggy
>>80380088
>>80380123
Man you guys are retarded.
The common person cannot tell these two apart and it's not shameful that they can't.
Can you?
Which one is a perfectly legal AR-15 and which one is the illegal M4 carbine?
Aren't handguns by far the most likely to be used in murders? They are pretty much banned in the UK for this reason, while rifles and shotguns are much easier to get.
>>80378940
the full auto version is already banned ya dip
>>80380518
Do you want me to bring facts to the table like statistics and data?
Because you haven't.
>>80379761
30.06 is a variation of the .30-caliber round, and yes militaries still use them for things like DMRs, snipers, and machine guns.
The main reason the army went for smaller rounds is volume of fire, and reduced weight. In war, 90% of the rounds fired miss. Common military tactics involve "supressive fire" maneuvers; basically spraying the enemy with bullets to keep them pinned down, so other forces can flank or bomb them.
In most civilian instances, you're just seeing small conflicts between two, or a few more people. There's not battle lines, or friendly support, or much to hide behind. In which case, if you get hit by a 30.06 bullet, you're more likely to die.
>>80377826
>going from wood to black plastic instantly tanks opinion by 13%
>>80380551
>that pic
https://youtu.be/enzlTEysYVU
>>80380337
Regular people don't go to where niggers are firing guns at eachother.
>>80377826
it's possible to own an actual machine gun in the US? pretty neat
>>80380538
>sniper rifle
>Rem 700 .308
Lel
Unless it's blueprinted it's not a sniper rifle.
>>80380197
Haha and the only one with wood that has a high should-be-illegal rating is the AK-47, which has obvious associations with the russian army.
>>80380589
Yes, black people love killing each other and they do not use rifles to do it. Though one nig nog used an AK to kill an entire picnic of people.
>>80379761
because the added lethality of the 30-06 isn't worth the extra weight most of the time. Dead is dead, and most soldiers don't need to shoot out and hit somebody half a mile away.
Especially when they can just drop an airstrike on them instead.
>>80378248
but one is black and scary, not to mention the shell holder on the stock that makes it a fully automatic sniper assault rifle
>>80380589
>Aren't handguns by far the most likely to be used in murders?
Yep.
>They are pretty much banned in the UK for this reason, while rifles and shotguns are much easier to get.
Same in Canada - An egregious infringement on rights, and criminal niggers still get them anyways, what a shocker
>>80380558
The one that can go full auto.
>>80379973
When you're in a gun fight with people who are attacking your business or home. When niggers in your neighborhood start rioting and attacking your home or business in large numbers.
Listen, pussy, if you don't think you'll ever need a gun to protect yourself from criminals or worse, then don't get a fucking gun. Your fear has nothing to do with me. It's called the right to self defense, and it doesn't matter how "likely" I am to find myself in a situation where I need to defend my life or the life of my family.
>>80380558
The one on top is a M4 carbine, the one on the bottom is an AR15 pistol.
How about killing yourself now?
>>80380636
No I really don't, because I'll point to homicide rates, you'll point to the lack of semi-auto rifles being used in those homicides, I'll say "obviously pistols are a problem," you'll say "if some nigger can carry a pistol then I want one too."
I think we've both done that before, haven't we? So let's skip it and agree both sides are motivated by fear more than they are rationality, huh?
>>80380589
FBI data from 2014, showed that only 453 out of 6,000+ gun murders were committed with rifles.
>>80380558
The top one is the M4, but it's not illegal. It doesn't appear to be select fire, but you can usually tell that a rifle is a M4 based on the front sight attached to the barrel.
The bottom "rifle" is actually an AR15 pistol, as you can see by the SIG brace "butt stock". It's legal for civilians to own, but you need SBR paperwork if you intend on shouldering it.
>>80380308
>They want the easier to hide and conceal, and statistically more dangerous one legal
This will be the argument to ban handguns once they take away rifles.
One step at a time.
The MG3 should be legal
>>80380702
MURICA
https://youtu.be/uCppmoZiXUY
>>80380821
And yet somehow our murder rate is miles lower than the US.
Compare Detroit to Windsor.
>>80380643
>90% of the rounds fired miss
Waaaaaaay higher percentage than that.
hey pals im from ze far far east but plez tell me why do USMC's burn their shit like this? Is this a tradition or something?
Cant apload the webm because yo shitti board has a limit of 3 mb
>>80380643
>.30.06
>twice
>>80380558
>I don't know what it is so i want it banned less than this other thing
>Not shameful
Fucking Leaves
>>80378550
I have one of these.
>>80377826
Why do I find lever-action rifles so visually appealing?
>>80380997
>>80380643
Seen studies saying that in WWII, one in 10,000 rounds actually hit a target, by Vietnam it was one in 50,000 rounds, and by Iraq it was 1 in 250,000 rounds.
>>80380838
>When you're in a gun fight with people who are attacking your business or home.
Kek.
That's some nice fantasy you have.
Firefights don't happen in real life unless you're dealing with other militia fantasy faggots.
If your house is under attack, one round is enough to scare away anyone.
Thieves aren't retarded. They want to make money. You can't make money if you're dead.
Better to rob someone without a gun.
If 6 rounds aren't enough to make a very compelling case to rob someone else, you don't live in a first world country.
>>80379761
They switched to .308s that's why.
>>80380686
>https://youtu.be/enzlTEysYVU
Fuck me I want that so badly
>>80380969
>>They want the easier to hide and conceal, and statistically more dangerous one legal
>This will be the argument to ban handguns once they take away rifles.
>One step at a time.
Yep, I mentioned it only because that was the line of rational/reasoning used in Canada a couple decades ago to ban all pistols under 4" barrel length
They are now trying to sneak through some new restrictive legistlation, they are going after all semi-autos here soon it seems. Keep an eye out, in the next 36 months you'll hear about a gun grab/gun control measures being implemented
>>80380308
Revolvers are the best gun for homicide. They don't leave bullet casings at the scene, which are often finger printed and tell you which caliber round was used. Revolvers leave the least amount of evidence at the scene.
Pop a couple of home-made hollow points out of a revolver and no one will be able to identify what gun was used.
>>80380987
very impressive
though you still have to live in the right state
>>80380558
They both should be illegal because you don't need neither one of them for hunting. The only reason you would need them is to make up for your small 'conservative' insecure penis.
>>80381214
>you don't live in a first world country.
We don't live in a first world country.
Within 20 or 30 years, no one will.
>>80378257
yea, stupid omar should have used a revolver instead of an AR15!
>>80377826
>the mossberg should be more illegal than the benelli because it's scary and tactical
>>80380852
You make a fair point and you make it well.
No, I don't think we need to argue the "need" argument too hard.
I personally think it's moot. I don't know what you need. Because I don't know you. There's a flag next to your name but the states are a big place. You could be hundreds of miles from me or right next door.
I know nothing of your wants or needs. So trying to dictate those for me, feels counter-intuitive. That's my opinion. I don't want to tell people what they need, because I don't feel that's my business or even within my ability to know.
So yes, this is all just opinions and feelings at this point. And a little bit of it might be fear based. I'm afraid you might try to tell me what I need and make decisions of ignorance or other people might. Which would be errant.
And I of course might do the same.
>>80377826
Ban all full automatic weapons for anyone that dosent need it specific reasons(private security companies and such).
You wont go hunting with a full automatic anyways and if you do shooting for sports you will use a semi automatic weapon anyways.
>>80381336
So hunting is the only legitimate reason to own guns, eh?
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>>80377826
So they are endorsing the murder of Batman's parents?
>>80381336
>to make up for your small 'conservative' insecure penis
And what's wrong with that?
>>80381336
Agreed.
Misplaced feelings of inadequacy and impotency.
>They don't respect me because I'm short, ugly, fat, stupid, or autistic. But now they have to respect me.
>>80380045
I got a gen 3
If you have the money $5k+, you can get color night vision now. It looks like old movies...
>>80380851
BASED BAGUETTE BRINGING THE BANTZ
>>80381479
They're the 1%
So yes
>>80377826
>mfw there's a drop 13% in approval just because one of the shotguns is black instead of wood furnished
>>80378125
Actually yes.
I own a 60 footer
>>80381432
What other reason would you need?
>>80381430
Your opinion is irrelevant and your country is now Africa.
>>80377826
You know I'm not really sure on the law for this, can I use a flare gun for SD and not get arrested for it?
>>80381178
It appeals to your desire of Manifest Destiny.
>>80381430
>You wont go hunting with a full automatic anyways
What if I'm hunting the people telling me and my family to get on the train? I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why I want to keep my guns?
>>80380551
>meanwhile_at_tarus.jpeg
>>80381336
What does hunting have to do with anything? What gun sale laws mention hunting?
>>80381608
Shooting people who come to take our guns
>>80377826
>MG3
For fuck's sake, at least get the model right
>>80381608
>What other reason would you need?
Let's see, how about target shooting (legitimate sport, even in the Olympics) or collecting?
Oh right, self defense...unless you think someone would never ever break into your house with a gun, try to mug you on the street with a gun, or carjack you with a gun.
>>80381214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
>firefights don't happen in real life
It's a fucking leaf. I used to work in a pizza shop and two nogs came in with guns. My boss fought back and they returned fire. He was much better off with a semi-auto handgun than a six shot revolver in that situation. He won.
Also, Los Angeles isn't a first world country, no. Neither is Detroit, Cleveland, Oakland, New York, etc. etc.
The point that you're WILLFULLY missing here is that if I do find myself in a situation where I need to defend myself, I'm not interested in excessive limitations like low capacity, slow-reloading weapons. There's no reason for me to be limited just because pussies like you are afraid of extremely rare occurrences like mass shootings.
If you were actually afraid of guns, you'd be afraid of the gangbangers who are responsible for like 90% of the gun homicide. But you actually seem to be dismissing that they even exist while hyperfocusing on insane lone gunmen.
>>80377826
>gun grabbers want to take away a hunting rifle
I wish them luck if they try
It'd probably be better at hunting pigs than deer
>>80381814
https://youtu.be/BRQqieimwLQ
>>80381398
Word. IN MY OPINION it's far too easy for people to get firearms of all types in this country, and tens of millions of cheap, shitty handguns being available for craigslist purchase/theft/loss is a not-good thing.
I live in New England in a small city, I haven't hunted in years, my two rifles and one shotgun are at my parent's house 45 minutes away. After coming home from muh war tour I almost went full /k/ but realized that I didn't have a rational, realistic reason to be carrying a weapon on a daily basis given where I live. The end.
>>80381624
We have less niggers in both percentage and total, Jamal.
No Jamal, i am pretty sure your country is Africa and all your whites will be hanging from a tree by the end of this year while your PC government just watches while posting #BlackLivesMatter on twitter.
>>80378248
Isn't the Montefeltro an auto-loader
>>80381432
see, you and your small penis couldn't even make an argument
why do conservatives refuse to acknowledge facts statistics and logic?
>>80381515
nothings wrong with that
>>80381518
yes.
If the founding fathers were here, they would definitely be on the right side of history. And the things they weren't on the right side of history about? It's because they are dead white males
>>80381522
that shit is fuckin SICK
I wish they had goggles that were normal looking but could do infared
if anyone here is an inventor; you need to invent oakleys/ aviators that have infared filters
>>80381994
As long as your opinions do not change what rights I'm permitted that's fine with me.
>>80378928
No need for that, just use non-black colored polymer. Tans and greens are better for woodlands anyway.
>>80381336
>The only reason you would need them is to make up for your small 'conservative' insecure penis.
But what if my penis is of average length and doesn't hold a political ideology?
It almost seems as if you are projecting.
>>80381193
I believe you have the trend backwards. In ww2 conscripted forces actually couldn't bring themselves to kill other people through a rifle scope. Training and volunteer forces have greatly increased the accuracy and willingness to kill.
>>80381336
what if i want to hunt niggers on my property?
>>80382100
>see, you and your small penis couldn't even make an argument
>why do conservatives refuse to acknowledge facts statistics and logic?
Did you not even see my reply? See below:
Let's see, how about target shooting (legitimate sport, even in the Olympics) or collecting?
Oh right, self defense...unless you think someone would never ever break into your house with a gun, try to mug you on the street with a gun, or carjack you with a gun.
>>80379814
Im actually hoping that when more gun control does eventually come, the NRA cleverly 'cooperates' and steers it to still allow an M1 Garand type action and feeding mechanism. Then, we can actually have new manufacture garands and a better supply of Tirdy Aught Six, and I can PING! all day long.
Then when the new revolution comes I will have not only my hoarded ARs and AKs, but a garand.
>anon just get one from CMP
i want to but all the really good ones are gone and Im too lazy to join a club.
>>80380701
you're assuming niggers wont come out to shoot whites when they are done shooting each other.
>>80382242
>Let's see, how about target shooting (legitimate sport, even in the Olympics) or collecting?
>Oh right, self defense
just stop. 2a is meant for none of these things and you fucking know it. stop being a pussy and just say what it's really for
>>80382348
>you're assuming niggers wont come out to shoot whites when they are done shooting each other.
ITT: anon forgets about Dallas shootings earlier this week
>>80378173
>>80379921
beat me to it
that jewish weapon should not be on our streets
>>80379243
Mp7 is the new uzi
>>80382242
oh, so I legitimately should be able to own nuclear bombs, if I can target shoot small islands that I have purchased?
check-mate, republitard. Why even argue? You are so obviously making up for insecurities.
pic related, that's you on the right.
>>80382100
Bait
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware
http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense
>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf
>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that
>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot
>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police
>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed
>64% of gun control advocates believe the incorrect assumption that gun crime has gone up
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/gun_control/64_who_favor_more_gun_control_believe_gun_crime_has_gone_up
>>80379065
Well said anon
>>80378125
Sailors need flair guns, yes.
>>80382414
Bait
https://youtu.be/E2tLVPVS0Bc
>>80382100
Why the hell would you trust the police and government with guns but not your fellow citizens? They're the same people.
>>80378173
SHALL
>>80381944
>you'd be afraid of the gangbangers who are responsible for like 90% of the gun homicide.
I don't live in New Africa, so that's not a problem for me.
I just looked up all 30 murders in my city, which is the second largest in Canada, that happened last year.
Most were stabbings.
The gun violence was due to arguments and drug addicts. A few mob hits, and some Natives gonna Native.
No regular ass people getting shot.
No home invasions. No muggings.
No one died that didn't have it coming in one way or another.
First off a flaregun is not considered a firearm and second the fact 12% of people think they should be banned just show how retareded some of the people doing this poll are. Flare guns are used when people are stranded at sea and while boating, not to kill people.
>>80377826
>12% of people want to ban flare guns
What the everloving fuck am I reading?
>>80382414
>Why even argue? You are so obviously making up for insecurities.
Yes, that must be it. Insecurity means I don't want to take advantage of my Constitutional rights. That's some true liberal logic if I've ever seen it. Thanks for proving me right.
Seriously, fuck off.
>>80382414
This seems like bait.
>>80377826
>24% say AR-15 should be legal
>20% say AK47 should be legal
This says a lot. They're the same concept, they're both rifles, they both shoot bullets, their standard magazines are typically 30 rounds.
But that 4% of people believe that the AR-15 is a gun for GOOD guys and AMERICANS, yet the AK47 is an EVIL GUN OF RUSSIA. They probably also believe that certain weapons are for attacking, where other weapons are for defending; or that if you use a tec9, that means you have to hold it sideways and spray with it like in the video games.
Hopefully these people learn to understand why we go by the constitution, and don't just throw away our rights based on their dumbass ideas.
>>80382599
>What the everloving fuck am I reading?
>Vox
(liberal shill "news" website)
>>80377826
I hate how both the AK-47 and the AR-15 have been stigmatized by the media
>>80377826
>Americans ok with the types of gun used in vast majority shooting deaths.
They fucked up in not including a semi-auto handgun.
Why are my countrymen such retards
>>80382660
4% would like to support American economy.
>>80382526
>black population of Canada: 2.9%
>hispanic population of Canada: 1.2%
>total population of Canada: 35 million
Cool story, bro. I don't give a shit.
>>80382818
And you think the people Vox is asking know jackshit about the difference between those two rounds?
>>80383000
Absolutely not
>>80380185
>>80382818
The 5.56 round tumbles inside and technically causes more damage, despite being the smaller round.
>>80377826
>Vox
Do your IQ a favor and don't trust anything from Vox. They manipulate data to their liking and alter video to suit their anti-2a agenda, then present it as objective fact.
Ex 1: http://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-united-states-america
>include Switzerland in gun murders graph for purpose of showing out of control gun violence.
>remove Switzerland from gun ownership graph to exaggerate United States per capita gun ownership and to send message that only 3rd world shitholes have close to as many guns as the U.S.
Ex 2: Ted Cruz makes bacon with AR15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2130F4rjPg
Vox edit of Ted Cruz Bacon: https://youtu.be/Bn6hVIISA6o?t=60
>edit in automatic gunfire sound effects to make people believe that full auto is available to everyone, without a background check, at gun shows and amazon.com
>pretend that Vox has any journalistic integrity/remotely useful articles.
>>80382526
In fact, why the fuck do Canadians even have an opinion on this? You guys seriously earn your shitposting reputation.
Reminder to Americans citing their 2nd Amendment, the intention was to have a citizen's militia for defense of the nation. A standing army was not intended to exist.
The Founding Fathers were Romaboos. They looove their Roman Republic.
They believed in the farmer soldier, like any good Roman would. A man who works his farm and then goes to war when the need arises.
But as time went on, a standing army was created, which renders the idea of a citizen militia obsolete.
If you truly believe in the 2nd Amendment. If you believe in the spirit of the law and not just the letter, why aren't you in the Armed Forces?
The primary purpose of the 2nd Amendment was to be first line of defense for the Union.
Since the current first line of defense is now the Forces, you must enlist if you truly believe in the 2nd Amendment.
>>80377826
That's an MG42 Nignog
BAN BLACK PLASTIC
>>80377826
>12% to retarded to be considered
>13% black pump action is scarier than wood semi auto, also should be disregarded.
>4% think there is a significant difference between good guy gun and bad guy gun
Add 29% to the pro gun side from people too ignorant to consider...
Even among libtards they barely think the ak47 should be banned.
>>80382414
If you can afford, and are able to safely maintain them without endangering others then yes, civilians should be allowed nuclear weapons.
Thing about a nuke is you'd literally need to be Warren Buffet or Bill Gates at his prime to afford everything that goes into making one as there is no private manufacturer, and that would be the reason that no one would have one.
>>80383093
Yes but ones going to penetrate more things to hit me.
>>80383093
>>80380185
>5.45x39 does this even better than 5.56. It also leaves a massive exit wound.
Russians do it better
>>80382926
>>80383146
Go have a siesta, Juan Carlos.
At least we're part of the G8 and can into relevancy, at least in the smallest degree.
>>80383173
desu MG3 is MG42 the political correct version.
>>80383172
>he thinks the second amendment of the Bill of Rights contained provisions specifically limiting the rights of American citizens
Jesus Christ, leaf, kindly fuck off.
i really enjoy seeing all these pro gun yuropoors. you don't even understand. hopefully there a comes a day when you can be armed and make yurop great again. i think the usa is probably fucked
>>80383172
The right of the people to keep and bear arms
Funny, it doesn't say the right of the militia
>>80382377
I agree with this anon.
Sport, hunting and vermin control are all legitimate uses for the AR platform. I have tons of friends who shoot three gun and I pop gophers and coyotes routinely with mine to keep them out of the garden, orchard, and chicken coop.
But ultimately the function and adaptability of the AR15 and similar rifles provides an inexpensive, first line option to balance out the monopoly of force held by the government.
>hurrr durr rebellion would fail you dont have drones
Weve had this argument before and have exhausted it. Even studies done BY the feds have found that defection rates would be profound. We can fight the gorilla war until we have enough muscle on our side to make a difference.
This is definitively American. The only difference between our corruption and corruption in Libya or any other place where a dictator has been overthrown is that here it is easier to hide the lies and FAR easier, due to technology, to engage in thought suppression and propagandize the population.
Weve known from the very beginning that having measures in place to protect ourselves from this shit getting out of hand meant our country would not be as 'safe'. But even then, the actual number of deaths from these 'scary' firearms is pathetically small.
Sorry. If you want 'safe', move to Europe where the friendly security cameras can watch you all day and you have nice cops and dinner fork registration laws to protect you from yourselves.
>>80383442
Again your idiocy is in full display. I've cited American issues and American cities. That's because I'm an American. I live in the greater Los Angeles area. I'm spending my SUMMER in Spain. You actually live in Canada.
>>80378571
AK47 is one of the only guns with wooden furniture that liberals see as a "big bad" type gun.
The BIG SCARY ASSAULT CLIP really does it I imagine
can i open carry this in freedomland?
>>80383626
https://youtu.be/2OhBBC_Cyeo
Good watch
>the more black they become the more they want to ban it
>>80383334
This is true.
>>80383376
I regretted not learning about the AK74, before purchasing my first rifle (Arsenal SLR101-S)
>>80383473
>>80383568
The American Bill of Rights was written by men, not God.
They had specific intentions.
To ignore their intentions is to ignore the whole point of the document.
What if someone actually believed that the term "bear arms" referred to ursine limbs?
You'd tell them to fuck off and that it really means "to carry weapons".
Follow the intent, not the letter.
To "bear arms" means to be a soldier.
Remember when this was written and by who.
There was to be no standing army.
That was the goal.
>>80383820
>yfw it's not just a meme
>>80379544
>you're not wrong
he's wrong, and so are you
>>80379973
A good portion of cases of self defense would need someone to reload if it weren't for the fact that most people use guns with relatively high capacities to defend themselves. That's if they don't want to die, anyway.
A revolver is most definitely not the be-all-end-all self defense weapon.
>>80383655
>from LA
>returning to Spain
Going back to see your ancestors then?
>>80383626
>Gorilla war
>>80383899
>To "bear arms" means to be a soldier.
No it doesn't
Try again leaf
>>80381214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
>>80379758
You don't need to deactivate the cannon, you just need a tax stamp for it
>>80377826
Wait for the first flare gun drive-bys and watch the opinions change.
The gun grabber agenda won't go away until you are completely disarmed.
Then they come for your machetes and pitchforks.
Then the spoons.
>>80383671
>>80378125
I own a boat and operate at night. Legally I have to own a flare gun and keep it on my boat at night. Weird, I know, but it's a safety thing.
>>80383911
Black is the best color for the Aesthetic Rifle 15
>>80380037
Some Criminals break the law because it's fun retard.
>do coke
>it's fun
>drive 180 down the freeway
>it's fun
>driving 180 and doing coke
>it's fun
>oh shit now a cops chasing me
>that's fun
>oh shit I'm gonna go to jail
>no fun
>i pull out my homemade gat
>fun to make
>shoot at pigs
>dats fun
>oh shit spiked my tires
>oh shit I'm runnin
>oh shit I got shot
>fuck I'm dyin
>oh shit knee to the face
>this is no longer fun
>>80383684
My buddy has one of those built in semi auto. So...yes?
>>80383172
Wrong.
Declaration of independence:
>"..., it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-"
>>80378248
>trying to put logic in Marxist beliefs
literally why
>>80383783
Thanks! Ill watch it at lunch.
>>80384026
When you have no standing army it does.
Remember this is the 18th century.
Everyone was busy keeping each other alive.
America was a tiny ass colony.
If you could waste your time be armed instead of farming, fishing, or providing necessary products of the new nation, you were a soldier.
>>80384224
>Bill of Rights=Declaration of Independence
Um...
>>80383899
The INTENT of the Bill of Rights was to establish rights of the citizens that the government COULD NOT INFRINGE UPON.
The right of the people to bear arms and keep militias were among those rights.
The intention of the Bill of Rights was not to say, "Okay, you can have guns, but only IF X, Y, and Z are true. And only in X, Y, or Z circumstances."
The Bill of Rights was vehemently pursued by the ANTI FEDERALISTS, that group that was largely inclined against centralized power, basically old timey libertarians like Thomas Jefferson. These guys owned their own guns and weren't catering to modern leftists who are afraid of mass shootings.
If you think the intent of the 2nd amendment was to allow for a complex set of conditions under which the people would be "permitted" to have their own weapons, but only according to strict rules, then you are an absolutely fucking idiot. Of course, I already know you are.
>>80382621
it is bait, I don't know how people didn't see my other posts were talking about getting infared scopes haha
>>80383282
ARE YOU KIDDING ME
why even argue with you? You think that white racists should have nuclear bombs!
pic related; imagine if this was a nuclear bomb!
>>80382609
>thanks for proving me right.
Oh, throwing strawmans at me proves you right? Right about what? How your small penis looks better with a big gun next to it?
Maybe you should see if the constitution permits you to have cream for how savage I just burned you. If it did, would you defend your burns?
>>80381336
Antigunners always have dick on the brain. I hunt with ARs all the time.
>libs want to take away much r700
what the fug
why???
its literally the go-to deer hunting rifle
.44 Magnum
>legal
hunting rifles
>illegal
k
>>80383963
Actually, yes. Half my family lives in Spain. inb4 "spic". I don't give a shit.
>>80381302
It's a pain in the ass but yea it is possible to own full auto.
>>80383626
>Weve known from the very beginning that having measures in place to protect ourselves from this shit getting out of hand meant our country would not be as 'safe'. But even then, the actual number of deaths from these 'scary' firearms is pathetically small.
freedom isn't free. an unchecked government is more dangerous than a single crazy person with an ar-15 ever will be
>>80382100
>see, you and your small penis couldn't even make an argument
What you said isn't an argument either. It's an assertion that hunting is the only reason to own a gun. No, home invasions, robbery, rape, etc. are things that will always happen, so people are always entitled to an effective means of self-defense, especially when you factor in the fact that gun control only affects the law abiding citizen.
Also, my penis is 6.5-7 inches (slightly above average). I'll bet on average the anti-gun penises are smaller. That's why they're so angry and authoritative and speak as if their word is the law; all the hallmarks of having a little peepee.
>>80383655
Well admittedly if you're an American living in LA calling you Juan Carlos isn't exactly a long shot
>>80377826
We need to take further actions to keep citizens safe from stabbings, pic related.
>>80383684
Maybe in Texas, Louisiana, or Arizona it would certainly perfect for killing Dindos an Marxist SJWs but you'd get pretty tired lugging it around in the hot sun.
>>80384468
He's trying to establish the POV of the framers by showing you the Declaration of Independence and its emphasis on the right and duty of the people to fight back against a tyrannical government. This perspective is in large part the basis of the 2nd amendment.
>>80384580
I figure our next work-around can be tactical lever actions. The 45-70 will have a second chance. I bet we can even figure out some sort of speed loader, or maybe it has multiple tubular magazines that you can 'rotate' on an axle when one empties out.
>>80384654
see, you can't stop talking about your penis
this is why conservatives think guns should be legal but gay people should be banned
I bet you are so butthurt that Obama is so much better than Bush was too, aren't you?
>>80384683
Fair enough. You're still wrong about the 2nd amendment though.
>>80381904
That is an MG3 though.
>>80381430
>what is the Hughes amendment?
>>80377826
Semi-auto brown shotgun-- OK!
Pump action BLACK shotgun-- EVIL!
lol libs are fucking ridiculous.
>>80384468
NOWHERE does it say "We the united states"
NOWHERE does it say "the right to bear arms in the defence of the nation"
Declaration defined the country. It is the founding document. All other documents were written as supporting documents.
Constitution gave a blueprint on how to govern the declaration.
Bill of rights gave the ability to defend the constitution.
>>80384476
Way to miss the point.
I'm not saying "Take dah guns".
I'm saying that if you truly believe in the 2nd Amendment and that you are willing to invoke it, you should be in the Forces.
Because the bottom level intent of the 2nd Amendment is to create the defenders of the nation from outsiders.
Like you've said, many of the Founding Father's were libertarian anti-Federalists.
They didn't want a standing army.
The didn't want professional soldiers.
They looked up to the Roman farmer soldier (like I've said) that takes up arms to defend their republic when they are needed, and then goes back to the land when they are not.
So what I'm saying is to invoke the 2nd Amendment so that you can jerk off to fantasies of killing niggers and spics, you're twisting the intent.
If you believe in it enough to make it a shield, then you must join the Forces or be hypocrite.
