THIS IS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF WORLDSTARHIPHOP AS "TRUMP SUPPORTER PULLS GUN ON BLM PROTESTER!
https://youtu.be/FH7aTp8DsVI
Did Sam Hyde dye his hair?
>>80337115
>Soros funds BLM
>funds white people to show up with guns to "prove" whites are the violent problem
Next level shilling
>large group of thugs violently intimidating and approaching him
seems reasonable you'd want to draw a weapon to deter them and protect yourself.
>>80336999
so fake
ITS JUST A PRANK BRO
>>80336999
>that one nigger trying to be intimidating by dropping his backpack and puffing out his chest
lmao
Why do we treat blacks as if they were human.
>>80336999
is that sam hyde?
hahahaha little white boy you scared nigga? cant turn ur back on us now boy kmt thinking he can pull a gun on a crowd of brothers and walk off peacefully
>>80336999
>Mike Bluehair
>Bluehair
Even has a cuck last name.
I bet they thought the white guy was easy prey lol
>>80336999
its like the fucking apocalypse holy shit.
What would you do in this situation? You've got 20 people yelling at you, that they want to kill you. They're wearing masks, so they're obviously ready to commit a crime with their identity concealed.
Why isn't it legal for him to have pulled his gun on them, in self-defence? He should have kept his gun on them all the way until he backed to the police, where they could arrest him. Then escort him to his house, where he gets left off on self-defence.
>>80336999
>glock 18 with extended clip
I know this guy
>>80336999
watching the video again, that police look like the soldiers from prototype game, i hope it's real lol
>>80336999
this dude either watched too many liveleak videos and freaked out or this is staged
top fucking kek
it's laughingatliberals
Good for him. That was a reasonable brandish if you ask me. I don't give a fuck about the law. He stopped the dude who was encroaching on him without having to put a bullet in him.
He saved the life of the nigger that was walking up on him by giving him a chance to change his mind.
>>80338125
>What would you do in this situation? You've got 20 people yelling at you, that they want to kill you. They're wearing masks, so they're obviously ready to commit a crime with their identity concealed.
Fire a couple shots and they will all scatter. Niggers act tough, especially in a group, but they are cowards.
>Why isn't it legal for him to have pulled his gun on them, in self-defence? He should have kept his gun on them all the way until he backed to the police, where they could arrest him. Then escort him to his house, where he gets left off on self-defence.
In many states, this may be one I don't know, it's perfectly legal to brandish your weapon if it's to prevent bodily harm or a threat to your life. You can use the gun as a way to calm the situation with the other party. As for police, they don't get too involved in these confrontations. That guy was on his own in there, as far as law enforcement goes.
>>80338182
Is that him? I figured he'd get assaulted at some point. Glad to see he carries and keeps himself safe.
>>80336999
Good thing the guy had the gun to keep those niggers and cucks away from him. God bless America.
>>80338341
Spread this in the comment section of EVERY SSM page
/Thread
>>80338447
>Fire a couple shots and they will all scatter. Niggers act tough, especially in a group, but they are cowards.
Bear in mind, I'm not recommending to fire a couple shots unless you have to. What that guy did was fine. But all the niggers following him and acting tough would show their true colors the moment the gun actually fired.
He fucked up by not firing a warning shot. I would have stood my ground, fired a warning shot in the air, and proceed to tell them they have one chance.
Literally would've been assaulted by that crowd of "peaceful" protesters without pulling his gun.
>>80338447
Basically yeah. He was so close to having multiple sets of shoes stomped down on his head and jaw. If he didn't pull that gun he would have been in a coma, possibly with brain damage for the rest of his life.
Firing shots in the air is not good, because those shots will come down and may hit someone the next block over. It was best what he did with just aiming and not firing.
>>80338563
And you would have gone straight to jail, instead of getting off with a slap on the wrist. Firing a gun is an inherently dangerous activity. If you are not aiming at your target, then you are sending bullets into a crowded city negligently, possibly killing people who weren't even involved in the altercation.
>>80337367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK4hJYMLkZM
I guess the whole felony charges and the entire court room is fake too?
>"Fuck the poh-lees!"
>"HE"S GOT A GUN CALL THE POLICE!"
>>80338125
>What would you do in this situation?
Never revealed my power level to them in the first place.
>>80338563
>warning shot in the air
NEVER
EVER
do this for any reason
Not only is it a horrible idea since it could possibly kill an innocent blocks away when the bullet comes down, but it is also highly illegal and with good reason.
>>80338781
Blue states are so fucked. In Texas and Utah, and other states I can't say for sure, what he did would not have been a crime.
>>80338563
>He fucked up by not firing a warning shot
nogunz detected.
Do not ever fire warning shots. In fact, don't ever clear leather in public unless your next action is squeezing the trigger. It is not an appropriate or responsible action to grab your weapon and scan the crowd "just in case".
Guy was starting to put himself in a dangerous situation and I'm glad he got out of it relatively unscathed, but this is very much a case of play stupid games win stupid prizes.
>>80338781
>jail and felony charges for defending yourself against a rampaging mob
>>80338671
>>80338736
Wow you guys are fucking retarded.
A warning shot is fired straight up into the air so it doesn't hurt anything, it just reaches terminal velocity as it comes back down to earth.
>>80338781
He's getting charged for that? Those niggers were clearly posing a direct threat to him. I don't know Oregon law, but the dude is in the clear morally.
>>80338462
I'm sure if they guy felt threatened enough to pull a gun it was justified, but the dude is on a $250,000 dollar bail and they're calling him a protester.
>>80338781
omg US
>pull a gun
>get surrounded
>even get touched
>don't fire
top cûck
>>80338781
What felony charges? Brandishing? Assault for the threat of violence? It all depends on if what he said was true and they shoved him and followed him.
If that was true I feel like he would have had the video evidence of it and that would have proved his innocence and he would have gotten let go right away.
Not saying that he isn't innocent I just feel like they wouldn't charge if they knew there was no chance of charges sticking.
>>80338991
Why you quote me, don't you read? I said it's not good to shoot in the air. Tons of innocent people die in mexico every year from bullets falling from the sky into them.
>>80338783
also this.
>We STREET, we KANGZ nyucca we handle dat sheeeit on the STREET
>Oh fuck an actual threat, quick call 911, we need an adult!
>>80338953
>Guy was starting to put himself in a dangerous situation and I'm glad he got out of it relatively unscathed, but this is very much a case of play stupid games win stupid prizes.
This.
GEE, KNOW WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA??? RUN INTO THIS BLACKLIVESMATTER CROWD AND CALL THEM A BUNCH OF NIGGERS AND TRUMP IS OUR GOD EMPEROR!!!
>>80338991
>calls other people retarded
>points a handgun up and away from his target so his target can easily rush him and take his gun from him
I didn't think you were that dumb.
>>80339008
>>80338967
He may not get convicted, but he probably will, since it's Oregon.
>>80338953
yeah and why do hunters regularly fire warning shots to notify other hunters they are in the area?
you guys really think the bullet retains its kinetic energy after going straight up and down? fucking retards in here
>>80338781
why is he being charged with a crime?
>>80339110
Brandishing is likely a crime in Oregon.
>>80338953
I agree, don't draw unless you're going to deliver some lead to some niggers. However, if he'd held still, that nigger would have quickly escalated that situation. As far as I'm concerned, pulling the gun was appropriate de-escalation and meeting force with the threat of greater force.
I fucking hate that you can't pull on niggers to remind them of where they stand. The law needs to be changed for dindus specifically. You're saving their life and sparing yourself 1000 hours of courtroom bullshit by simply drawing your gun and gelling them to fuck off.
He's 100% in the right on this.
>>80339091
Of course a fucking leaf wants to see the world burn before his eyes
>>80338462
He seems to butthurt the Portland idiots so hard by documenting them. They don't seem to get mad about Portlandia making fun of them though.
Looks like they were trying to instigate the niggers and anarchists into attacking him.
This is the same shit that happened in Minneapolis except they were actually attacked, and one fired his weapon. Now those guys are in jail and its fucked up because /pol/ and /k/ abandoned them because you're hypocritical pussies. Motherfuckers need a legal costs gofundme.
>>80338953
And if drawing the gun immediately de-escalates the situation? Drawing without firing is a possibility.
Didn't see what led up to it, but seems like the guy with the camera saves the lives of some people.
>>80338781
Felony Charges for fucking what??????? Bunch of uppity nogs with face masks were approaching him.
PORTLAND, YOU BETTER FUCKING EXPLAIN YOURSELF
>>80338991
>so it doesn't hurt anything
And that's exactly why so many people die from stay bullets as it comes back to earth
Warning shots are also highly illegal period. the only time you ever allowed to fire in self defense is when you intend to kill.
>>80338125
Legally speaking the only thing you can do is run away. Wearing masks and being in a crowd isn't a reason to pull your gun out on someone.
>>80339209
>yeah and why do hunters regularly fire warning shots to notify other hunters they are in the area?
What the fuck? No, they do not.
>you guys really think the bullet retains its kinetic energy after going straight up and down?
If you shoot your gun straight up and down, then the bullet will come down with significantly reduced velocity than it left the muzzle with. But it will still come down with quite a bit of force. And if your gun was pointed at the sky at any degree of an angle, which it likely was, then it may retain quite a bit more velocity than you seem to think.
>white people have to literally lead the black protesters to teach them how to not escalate a situation and get shot again.
Still herding cats.
>>80339130
Shitpost with no prove
Go back to >>>/trash/ mlp nogger
I work in Portland, if you want ask me anything.
>tfw a city that's like .5% black has a black lives matter rally
These virtue signalling leftist pieces of shit make me ashamed.
>>80339301
>As far as I'm concerned, pulling the gun was appropriate de-escalation and meeting force with the threat of greater force.
That's why what you describe has been de-criminalized in a few of the red states.
>>80339246
because blue states are cucked beyond belief
you should only """"brandish"""" a deadly weapon AFTER a mob of 12+ people tackle you or oy vey toxic self defense culture is ebil
>>80338781
man fuck Portland, good god.
>>80336999
Wow. Pretty surprising he wasn't jumped. Good on the dude saying "he's afraid to turn his back, just let him leave."
>>80339155
yeah those damn handguns are so big and cumbersome, it takes a good couple of seconds to aim again... oh wait that's wrong.
>>80339209
Warning shots is about the dumbest thing you can do. It's basically a big red flag telling the prosecutor and judge, "I wasn't really in a situation where I needed to use my gun."
>>80338991
Ok leaf, you go stand under a falling bullet then
>>80339374
I'm sure it's because some police and prosecutors are of the black complexion.
>>80336999
So why did that Trump supporter pull a gun on that BLM protester?
>>80336999
>Those white keks shouting "Black Lives Matter"
Jesus Christ america you need another war with forced conscription.
>>80339130
thats because in such cases the gun was fired at an angle way lower than 90 degrees and the bullet is on parabola trajectory. Firing it straight in the air the bullet falls with terminal velocity (with the force of a little pebble thrown above and falling down) as that anon pointed out above
>>80338781
FUUCKING INFURRIATING FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK
>>80339314
Yeah, it's fucked up. The niggers violate your civil rights to be in public, and to be wherever you please. Then when you stand up for your civil rights, you wind up with a $50k lawyer fee and some bullshit plea bargain 'conviction' on your record.
If you want to go stand in a protest and film it, that's your fucking right, and nobody should lay a hand on you unprovoked.
The way they treat the law now, his mere presence was a 'provocation' and they call his self-defence 'menacing'.
Same with the /k/ bros. They were fully within their right to be where they were and do what they do. Yet they're stuck with some bullshit charges as well.
>>80339454
fucking London had a BLM protest today. UK Parliament has nothing to fucking do with it and they protested there for some dumb reason.
start gofundme for his bail
>>80339532
Put your hands out in front of you as if you were pointing a gun. Keep them there.
Now put your hands up in the air above your head. Bring them back down in front of you.
Which of these situations involved your hands not being out in front of you? It doesn't take long for a determined person to rush you and take you out. Any time that you are not aiming at your target is time that the target has to close the distance from him to you.
>>80339554
*SMACKS LIPS*
*EY PUT DAT PHONE UP*
Besides
>implying it was a Trump supporter
>>80339712
its so they can be revolutionaries just liek in da movies XDXD
>>80338875
If it goes hypothetically straight up expending all it's velocity it's falling at 9.72m/s, a heavy round like a .45 is generally 230 grains, or about 14.9 grams.
.5 x 0.0149 x 9.82^2
.71 joules or ~.53 ft/lbs,
.45 muzzle energy and what you'd expect it to strike a target at from under 50 meters is ~300-450ft/lbs depending on loadings.
To be fair if you fire it at any angle short of like 80% it could certainly hurt someone since it'll be traveling in an arc, but firing fairly straight up is relatively safe but not legally advisable still and generally a crime in most states unless accidental.
>>80339822
MOP DAT FOAM UP
>>80336999
Why like half of the protesters are white? Is this nation finally is even more cucked than Yuropoorians?
>>80336999
is there any other footage, especially before he pulls the gun?
>>80336999
Mike's a good dude. One of us.
>>80339209
>why do hunters
I have never done that, nor have I seen or heard of it being done before. Are you sure you didn't just see it in a movie once?
Gunshots can be used to signal in an emergency, but that's a slightly different beast, and you're talking about the likelihood of a tiny bullet hitting another person in the wide open wilderness versus that same bullet striking someone in a densely populated urban area.
Again, DON'T FIRE WARNING SHOTS. YOU ARE NOT FUCKING YOSEMITE SAM. DON'T BRANDISH IN AN ATTEMPT TO "DE-ESCALATE" THE SITUATION.
fucking noguns giving the worst advice possible to newbies or soon-to-be-guns. Yer shooter is fer shootin', not fer tootin'. It is a deadly weapon and serious responsibility, not a goddamn party popper or big guy intimidation tool.
>>80338781
REEEEEEEE
FUCKING KEKLAND
REASON #58 TO BURN PORTLAND TO THE GROUND
>>80338953
So, what you're saying is,
>Don't pull the thang out, unless you plan to bang
>Don't even bang, unless you plan to hit somethang
?
>>80336999
Do the white guys chant that shit to try and convince some black chick or black guy to have sex with them? As a white man I don't understand supporting people who would not hesitate to murder you for saying a racial slur if they thought they could get away with it.
>>80338781
Fuck that. Every day it becomes clear to me that I will be killing lots of people. I'm not going to sit here and watch this country turn into an actual hell. So many people need to die.
>>80336999
>2:09
>Well of course when he pulls out a gun people are going to attack him
What the actual fuck?
>>80336999
Yeaaah, and it's Britain that's got problems.
>>80339209
>Why do hunters
they don't fucktard
>>80336999
more fuel for Lord Kek's race war
>>80339602
Thank you lord, somebody who has common sense. They actually teach you in Canadian license hunting school all about how to do a proper warning shot and the dangers of shooting at an angle.
>>80339821
Yeah but you keep your elbows bent and shoulders tight with a pistol shit brain, you only have to move your wrist and shoulders very slightly to aim up and back forward.
>>80336999
>unbiased reporting
>>80339960
It's fucking Portland. Its all the trash that have been pushed out of San Francisco/Bay Area and Seattle.
>>80340131
you guys literally aren't allowed to defend yourselves
>>80336999
Believe it or not worldstar as a community tends to be pretty based. At least as far as black people online go. And I'm talking about the actual site & forums itself, not the general concept of worldstar. Plenty of pro trump posters there.
and to think portland was considered the skinhead capital of america in 1989. my how times have changed...
Whilst I think brandishing was silly, I really think you'd have to twist this to make it a felony.
They were clearly pushing him away with obvious intimidation.
>>80339374
I live in Portland lad, the entire anti-establishment bond that joined PNW Republicans and Democrats has been shattered by hipster Californian diaspora. In terms of an explanation, pic related.
>>80336999
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
>>80340167
>but you keep your elbows bent and shoulders tight with a pistol
You've never shot a handgun, or if you have, you've never received any kind of instruction on how to hold one.
>>80339983
>>80339748
Yeah /pol/ but won't do shit will they.
>>80338125
>What would you do in this situation?
Well for starters I wouldn't be a fucking idiot and place myself in the situation in the first place.
>>80339822
>>implying it was a Trump supporter
Liberals don't carry guns.
>>80338781
>Oregon
c u c k s t a t e
>>80340192
hmm
bastile day when?
>>80340019
That's pretty much the law now. It's ridiculous since it removes a completely reasonable step from a person's self-defense options.
Basically, if you indicate you have a gun at any point before the moment you 'need' to use it, you're breaking the law. I put 'need' in quotes because you practically have to prove you were in immediate fear of your life.
It's fucking ridiculous. It's effectively a law that says anyone can fuck with you up to the point of bashing your skull in, and you're not allowed to draw down on them.
Hell, the Trayvon trial proved that even then you're potentially fucked.
All this to protect niggers from their own criminal tendencies....
>>80339960
Why are women allowed to vote again?
>>80336999
Honestly, Blue hair handled the situation pretty well by deesculating it.
LMAO WHAT A PATHETIC FUCKING KEK.
THIS JUST IN: VIOLENT RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST ATTACKS INNOCENT (((PROTESTORS)))
It's always the word protestor.
>>80339821
He has probably never heard of the 21 foot rule.
I can't remember how close you have to be to get to a guy when he has his gun in his hand and finger on the trigger. I think it was like 12 feet or something. It's further than you'd think, and it's fucking horrifying to see the actual archival footage of dudes with knives being able to reach and stab cops that had weapons drawn, feet planted, and ready to fire.
>>80340266
Oregon Firearms Federation is sponsoring his legal defense, I'm a donor.
>>80336999
looks like a massive pile of faggots
too bad he didn't get BTFO by a nog
>>80340356
there isnt really anything to reclaim. yuppie liberals have ironically gentrified the last black neighborhoods of the city and actually wonder why portland lacks apparent diversity....ahahahah. eat a dick hipsters....
>>80340365
lol I was just trying to piss off the /k/ommando by equating his gun etiquette to outkast lyrics, and you jump in arguing the opposite
what a time to be alive
>>80336999
>That fuckhuge crowd of pozzed self-hating white liberal cuckolds
Wow, the USA is pretty much lost.
>>80340491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KJ1R2PCMM
Basically, if you don't already have the gun drawn, you're fucked.
>Be cautious around gooks and luggage.
>>80340516
Do they have a way for nonmembers to donate SPECIFICALLY and DIRECTLY to his defense fund?
>>80340516
>>80340266
You can earmark your donation for Michael Strickland legal defense. OFF is fucking based.
https://oregonfirearms.ejoinme.org/MyPages/DonationPage/tabid/70447/Default.aspx
>>80340590
Oh shit, lol. Sorry, I don't listen to rap.
>>80340321
>He fell for the all rectangles are squares maymay.
Don't get me wrong, there was literally nothing wrong with what he did, but to imply implications based off of assertions given by today's standard of (((((journalism)))))) is irresponsible regardless of your political faction.
>>80339209
you've been watching way too many movies you canadian fuckhole
>>80340177
>recommended
>vicious is in quotes
>>80340190
Fuck WORLDSTARHIPHOP. I used to love the fights they post but they purposely make it look like only black people win fights. It wasn't until I found bloggy smalls Facebook and YouTube page did I see that tons and tons of fights where white males win. Also wshh will say "dude gets his ass beat after saying the n word." And they video shows none of that but it does show a white guy getting his ass kicked. That shit is pure shit to fuel hatred into young black men.
>>80340681
Yeah and we are talking about already having said weapon drawn so the "21 foot rule" doesn't apply. In fact I'm surprised he didn't get tackled and beat to death after he holstered and allowed people to invade his personal space.
He should have had the Aus cunt approved armour system, for protection against deadly wildlife.
>>80340693
Let's do this, /pol/. Don't be a fucking hypocritical cuck /pol/. Don't let the Portland marxists railroad this guy through their kangaroo court of lefty judges and juries that think white male gunowners are the problem facing America.
>>80337864
yes
damn im gonna miss his vidoes. Pretty good to wake up to in the morning and watch crazy libs daily.
>>80338781
>He was using racially charged language
That must be what set the Dindus off.
>>80339374
Are you kidding me? Are you saying that the white guy is being opressed?
Should have been beaten to death. You do not draw and point unless you are absolutely morally committed to destroying what you are pointing at.
Guns are not for threats.
>>80338781
I wonder what happens to trump supporters in prison?
>>80338991
>doesn't hurt anyone
>reaches terminal velocity as it falls back to Earth
>>80339960
>this nation finally is even more
hahaha that american delision thinking he was not the biggest cuck the whole time
>>80338781
We need to revive the Silver Legion. Shit is getting out of hand.
>>80341032
Yes
You can't push people off the street with intimidation
You set that precedent, then you've got the mob running the streets
I love videos like this do we have any more? Preferably with the protagonist winning??
Just a reminder to all you gunfags:
You can only pull out a gun and point it at someone if a reasonable person in your situation determines that their life is in danger and is being threatened by lethal force. A random person approaching you is not lethal force.
This guy was filming ahead of the march and to expect anything less than people "following" you is idiotic. Nobody threatened him with lethal force and drawing his weapon and pointing it at a crowd was illegal.
>>80339406
nigger loving leaf postin great b8
>>80341032
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!??!
>>80341194
Technically, you can brandish if you're in a life threatening situation, and a reasonable person thinks that you were in such a situation and you acted in defense of yourself.
Pointing firearm = assault
shooting = murder
Both can be justified in the right circumstance
>>80341194
This guy gets it
>>80336999
>>80338781
In case anybody was wondering what the charges likely would be.
>"pointing a firearm at another"
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.190
Doesn't say type of crime, but specifies max $500 fine and 6 months in prison.
Covers any kind of pointing of a firearm at people.
>"unlawful use of a weapon"
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/166.220
Class C felony
Covers "attempts to use unlawfully against another, or carries or possesses with intent to use unlawfully against another"
Also, these two seem to apply, loosely.
>menacing
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.190
Class A misdemeanor
>reckless endangerment
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/163.195
Class A misdemeanor
Moral of the story is, know your state's laws. In some states, what this man did would not be considered a crime. In Oregon, it is.
I live in Portland and can confirm how completely and 100% cucked the city is. However it's mostly from nu-males and hipster degnerates, not from hoodlum black people. I'm far more wary of random white meth-heads than a random black dude.
But this unfortunate dude is going to be crucified in the local news. As far as mass media goes, portland is all but lost. The rest of the state outside the willamette valley, however, is not.
>we also have really decent beer here, so don't burn "everything"
>>80341347
He should have waited until they were kicking his head in on the ground right, then drew his firearm and blasted all the attackers standing over him.
>>80341347
It was a mob of aggressors not a random person.
How do you know its lethal force until you're head is being kicked in?
>>80340894
neck protection is good only on the track. You won't be able to move your head normally in it
>>80341347
Well, he had people getting up in his face
He said they assaulted him with sticks
I can see that brandishing might be lawful, as brandishing is equal to assault.
>>80339960
Anything sadistic or that makes you feel like a victim of any kind is a major turn on for women.
it's just hard wired biologically.
If you've ever been a victim in a situation and you felt that dread and powerlessness as you knew something horrible and evil was about to happen to you, that same feeling, is sexually arousing for women.
>>80341500
Fuck your craft beer and fuck you
>>80341500
Nope, your beer sucks. There is nothing of value. Why do you even live there?
>>80336999
WTF though, liberals/radicals are fuckin nuts now, someone can pull a gun on them and they still want to form a mob and rip someone up. They literally have to be told over and over to let him just go home.
>>80341321
Really , shitlord?
HEY EVERYONE, THE WHITE GUY'S OPRRESED!! THE WHITE GUYS OPRRESED!1!
>>80339196
Oregon is by and large a red state but the i-5 corridor is what everyone thinks of and it's leftist as fuck (all of the major cities basically and our governer)
>>80337711
> nigger gets shot
> DINDU NUFFIN WUZ PLYIN FO COLIGE GETIN LIFE BACK ON TRACK YO
Btw, I can see who the good guys in this video are
The guy that drew
the cameraman that saved lives
Pretty funny that good guys go to jail now.
>>80336999
MOON MAN MOON MAN BLACK CRIMES MATTER
>>80341530
Ah ok. Well helmet offers enough protection to the neck from blunt force.
The biggest issue is, these niggers and antifa, try to GET BEHIND YOU, before they strike. So you must always be absolutely fucking brutal to anyone that tries to flank you and get behind you.
>>80341347
you obviously know the law very well!
>>80341619
Imagine, if you will, a Neo-Nazi rally, and they pushed media off the street with intimidation and assaults.
Image if the guy with the firearm was black.
How would the courts decide it now?
>>80341789
/pol/ is filled with stupid people.
>>80341347
a mob is lethal idiot
>>80337280
Le everything is Soros.
Liberal here. Gun guy was in the right. It's not like he's a crazy cop telling them to GET DOWN FIEHWFOIPHEWO. He's just trying to document things and keep masked goons that can't handle being recorded (in 2016 at a fucking protest) from piling him.
>>80341500
we are the white degenerate capital of the west coast. true. i was held up on the bus mall at knife point a decade ago by some shitty tweaker. i punched him in the face and got the fuck out of there. its worse now. thank fuck charlie hales is nearly out of office...amateur dindu thugs still hang out near the lloyd center but our twice year gun shoot outs over there are nearly a thing of the past....
>>80341666
>NEEDZ MO MONEH FO DEM POGRAMZ
>IT WHITEYZ FALL
>>80341241
They join a white supremacy gang? You're a lot safer as a right wing nationalist in prison than you are as a nigger loving cuck. You'll get your ass killed. Niggers in prison want nothing to do with white people. In jail, sure, races mingle but not in a US prison.
That video is fucking scary. When the crowd starts turning on the mikebluehair guy, you can see in their eyes, they aren't thinking any more. they just want to see some action.
>>80341471
Only time I will pull is if someone is committing a felony and needs to die immediately. Killing active felons is legal in my state.
>>80336999
with all those niggers and leftists, he was smart to be armed.
>>80341889
I'm also liberal and I see that he did the right thing
They were clearly ready to assault him without the levelheaded guy saying that they were probably going to get shot if they continued -- he saw that they were a threat.
>>80341808
Yeah, that guy doesn't clearly doesn't know the law.
The cops who charged him with two felonies clearly don't know the law either.
The D.A. who's going to fucking crucify him clearly doesn't know the law either.
Only /pol/ neckbeards who think college is for fags know the law.
HE DINDU NUFFIN
>>80341880
black crimes matter is literally soros.
>>80339406
sTOP IT WITH YOUR LEAFPOSTING ABOUT AMERICAN LAW
>>80336999
Lmao that Laughing at Liberals fag pulled a gun?
>>80341619
>group of white males pressures darkie off the street
I can see the headlines now
>neo nazis Trump supporters bully black youth
>KKK rising in oregon
>>80341583
>>80341613
No it doesn't, why would you even say that? A lot of the beer sucks, a lot of it is good. Am i supposed to drink coors?
I was born here, live a bit south of portland now, own a small farm. If you expect everyone to move to Alaska or Idaho based on ideology alone you're not going to get very far.
Wow what faggot.
>some protesters coming slowing towards him
>he immediately pulls a gun because hhhhes scared.
>>80336999
defensive gun use.
looks fine
>>80342123
Nice shitpost.
>>80342042
he literally didn't fire a single shot and left the area
>>80336999
>least BLACKED city
>all these fucking cops in riot gear
Liberals are complete cucks
>>80342123
It only takes one punch to kill you up close
>>80339406
Ill take my chances in court if it means bringing one of these sons of bitches down before they take out more innocent lives. Im sick of this shit happening to all lives
>>80341502
>>80341502
>>80341522
You can't respond with lethal force unless a reasonable person in your position believes that they are being threatened by lethal force. There's nothing indicating that he was threatened by lethal force, therefore, he committed a crime.
To defend this charge, he and his lawyer would have to prove in court that individuals within the crowd threatened him with lethal force, and that his response was reasonable and justified. He's obviously guilty, and any lawyer defending this guy would plead him out. He'll probably get time for this.
For the record, I'm a law student in Oregon
>>80341544
And where's the evidence to prove they were assaulting him with sticks? And how is that lethal force equivalent to a firearm?
This is Menacing by Oregon State law. Class A Misdemeanor. Assault in civil courts. Victims could sue him for monetary compensation.
One of my favorite youtubers. He's gone mad. Sorry to see this happen.
>>80342071
Yeah, faggot thinks he's Zimmerman. He doesn't understand that the "I feared fo muh lyfe yo" defense doesn't work too well when 1. you put your back, 2. you continue to provoke, and 3. the whole thing is on film.
>>80342049
He funded MoveOn when they were supporting his puppet Hillary Clinton.
MoveOn has since been hijacked by Bernie supporters and BLM niggers.
>>80342176
Brandishing is illegal. Do you even own a gun?
>>80336999
>omg the cops detained me it was so terrifying
>thank god I'm white
yeah, thank god you were smart enough to comply with the cops when they were pointing guns at you telling you to get on the ground
It would be funny to toss a few firecrackers in the midst of those assholes.
>>80337280
Read:
>>80342280
>>80336999
First of all, this guy is a Trump supporter - his name is Michael Strickland and he has written articles for several right-wing websites, including Gateway Pundit and Progressives Today.
http://www.progressivestoday.com/author/michael-strickland/
>>80342042
>>80341808
I'm a law student in Oregon.
>>80341820
Neo Nazis are a terrorist organization fueled by hate and bigotry and sexism. They deserve to be shot dead without question, especially by a colored person.
Enough with the hypothetical situations, you know deep down that you've NEVER experienced true opression in your entire fucking life you hateful piece of xenophobic shit. You seriously need to check your privilige you FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>80342249
He said it with the sticks
But without that, he clearly was being menaced himself.
Which would mean him menacing in response would be justified if he didn't start the confrontation.
>>80338781
for one guy with a gun
>>80342249
Yeah but that's why he should have waited until they whacked him in the back of the head. Haven't you seen the video where that traditionalist campaigner recording, and right in front of cops. He was being punched by that antifa primary school teacher. Then when the cops wouldn't help he walked away, and 3 antifa jumped him, pushed him to the ground, 2 started stomping his head, then another 4 run to stomp his head.
All it takes is for him to go down by one ,and the whole mob will be stomping his head to a fine paste all over the sidewalk.
He definitely feared his life, so he should have waited until he was being minced up?
I was punched in the mouth once by a big bully cunt in hs, know what I did? Elbowed him in the fucking head, then punched his face 6x when he was on the ground. Just to eliminate the threat he posed to me.
>>80342432
Nice LARPing of a SJWhore
>>80342249
Every case can be defended, can use other cases of FUCKING WHITE MALES getting overrun by "protesters" as an example.
>>80342400
I was being sarcastic. I agree with your post.
>>80342443
Continuing, this is why they mention that he flung racist insults beforehand.
They couldn't get him with anything otherwise.
>menacing and disorderly conduct charges
kek, he's not even going to get convicted. If he did, 6 months probation tops.
>>80342515
Did I do ok?
>>80339110
One of the people he pointed his weapon at was a cop who was attending the rally.
>>80342432
>you know deep down that you've NEVER experienced true opression
Not him, but I'm a white guy who was raised in the ghetto.
I would get beat up every day for being white.
One day a group of men came to my house with a casper costume (I was 5) and threatened my mother saying I had to walk around in the costume all day or bad things would happen to her. I've been the victim of racism before and now I live in fear of reverse racism everyday. I can't actually say "reverse racism" without being labeled a racist.
>>80342654
Here's your (((You))). (((You))) earned it.
I´m waiting for some good ol american violence when trump looses to hillary. AAAAh smoke and blood.
>>80338991
This is true for a shot fired directly up.
The bullet will indeed speed its way up until gravity wins. At which point the bullet's velocity reaches 0 as it floats at a standstill in the air.
The it comes down.
Wind drag and the weight of the bullet×gravity does its thing at a significantly less lethal velocity on its decent.
The problem occurs when people shoot a round at an upwards angle.
The bullet never reaches terminal velocity as spin plays a factor the entire way. Like a football being thrown. These type of sbots are deadly when the come down.
>>80342443
Possibly. But pulling a gun on a crowd with video evidence is a lot easier to prosecute.
>>80342466
The dude should have just left, or not come at all. It was in a major city with police presence and he was not being threatened as far as I can see. The moment he pulled out his gun, the crowd was 30 feet away from him. There was a calm old dude 10 feet from him, but there's nothing indicating his life was in danger. I don't think a reasonable person would fear for their life in that situation.
>>80342654
Passable, yeah.
You hit their talking points spot on.
>>80336999
Why isn't there any footage from before he pulled the gun?
What aren't we meant to see?
>>80342139
this, rather pull a gun and risk gettting a small fine and a few months probation than getting my ass beat to a pulp by rabid niggers and sjws
>>80342536
No, not really. The isn't a precedence thing. It's a situational thing. The law is laid out very clearly.
His life wasn't in danger. He responded with threat of lethal force. He's guilty.
>>80342769
I fear for my life every time I see gangster-looking niggers or junkies. I'm fully ready to beat them to a pulp, because I know how volatile those types of animals can be.
The guy was in the right to wave his gun at them.
>>80342706
>even thinking about this """""reverse racism"""""" nonsense
Wow......just.........wow. I really need to think..... .....
You bigots just never learn. I'm like done with this
>>80336999
Jesus Christ.... what the fuck is going on in America? are white people really that racist there?
>>80342812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvV3BQ-RoJw
>>80342940
you might be joking but I'm not, my story is 100% true
>>80342956
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>>80342466
Good job. I've been beat down by a pack of niggers before (always a pack) and there's not much one can do. It's best to avoid them at any cost. These white libs will learn the hard way, sooner or later.
Don't these losers have anything better to do? What a shitty way to spend your free time
>>80336999
>liberals doing purity cleanses of their own protest
typical
>>80338781
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK4hJYMLkZM [Embed]
>They don't show when 5 guys are coming at him and then he draws
>>80341789
/pol/ is stupid and lazy.
we should have a database of SJWs and their online statements that show their various hatreds for future reference when they have any position of authority to abuse.
>>80336999
>gets 2 felonies for defending himself from a gang of niggers about to beat him to death
what the FUCK is wrong with this goddamn country
>>80342963
his back was at the wall of traffic.
>>80342992
That's fucked up man. How did you get stuck with those apes anyway? Did Your white family miss the flight ?
>>80342855
He's being charged with a Class C felony - Unlawful Use of a Weapon. I'm guessing they'll make an example of him and give him close to the maximum sentence of 5 years in state. Plus 30 days for menacing. Plus $125,000 fine.
Don't pull your gun out unless you're certain.
>>80338003
yeah, they would of beat him and took off with his camera and wallet
>>80343130
Obungle and neoliberalism.
This country was completely different just 10 years ago.
>>80342927
The situation could have turned violent very quickly, and once again, can use examples of other cases or videos. the law is just text, while real life can be much different, the jury and judge know this.
>>80342935
No he wasn't. The law isn't about you, the individual doing something in a specific situation. It's about what a "reasonable person" would do. You clearly aren't a reasonable person.
>>80336999
He seems familiar....
>>80338447
him pulling out his gun pretty much prevented him from getting jumped
>>80336999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVfHMYaX6vs
>>80342249
I think a gang of 10 people invading your personal space, surrounding you and calling you names while acting aggressively is reason to believe they are being threatened by lethal force.
its really not that hard of a case. If just one person hit him it would be his life.
>>80343243
Could have. But it didn't. The judge could deny you submitting unrelated evidence to the court. And they probably would. My guess is you've never been an attorney in the United States, Israel.
>>80343361
i for one, remember what happened in san jose
>>80342753
>>80342780
Thnx lads.
>>80342927
He clearly feared for his life.
>>80342927
His life was in danger; it just wasn't explicitly threatened by any particular member of the mob.
A few of them had a threatening posture and he had no way to safely exit the confrontation.
>>80338781
This is such bullshit. The only reason they're holding him is political pressure. He was within his right to draw the gun to protect himself. I hope Obama gets aggressive cancer.
>>80343174
2 or 3 people from /k/ went to a BLM rally and were arrested and sent to prison, when 5 blacks attacked them, started punching them in the head, and they pulled their guns and shot 3 of them dead.
>>80343290
I'm a very reasonable person, I know that people are calculating and wouldn't hesitate to hit you over the back of the head in a dark alley.
So I must be smarter and more calculating than every one else, to ensure my safety.
Does Oregon not have any "Stand Your Ground" laws?
Dude was getting approached by a mob of angry, violent niggers and clearly felt threatened for his life. How the fuck is this HIS fault?
>buh buh he pulled a gun out
Okay, then stop and back away. What do these niggers do? THEY KEEP WALKING TOWARDS HIM.
>>80341194
You're a fucking retard. They teach you verbal commands in higher level courses. If you have the option to do so, you should take that option. Neutralizing a threat does not mean killing a threat. I'm in Oregon, work for GK Sierra, and have been through more courses than the fucking police dept. I'm an annual thunder ranch attendee in southern oregon.
You idiots that think a warning shot is a viable option, or that drawing a firearm has to entail pulling the trigger, should never touch a fucking firearm unless it's to kill yourself.
>>80341194
Think about how fucking hard he would have been destroyed by the (((media))) if he had just let them run up and attack him, then he pulls it out to start shooting them
His life would be completely ruined by people saying he baited them by concealing a gun at the protest, then agitating them into a confrontation. There is a 100 percent chance this would be the narrative in that situation
This is a no win for this guy. He should have done what everyone should do and just stay away from all this black nonsense whenever possible
>>80343070
can someone explain me why he wasn't allowed to draw his gun?
what's the use of owning a gun if you aren't allowed to wave around with it if you feel threatened? just ban weapons if you aren't allowed to use them anyways.
i don't understand the us with all their weapons n kingz n shiet..
>>80343468
>>80343498
If he feared for his life, he should have fired.
If he feared for his life, he should not have holstered his firearm.
The fact that he did both of these things and walked away unscathed is evidence that his life wasn't in danger, and that he knew it wasn't.
Doesn't seem worth it for any of you yanks that want to go anywhere near these things to carry a firearm.
Perhaps pepper spray (and a folding knife); spray it around, then unass yourself with speed.
The folding knife can be for the "o shit" moments of being jumped. Stabbing seems to work pretty well against these thugs.
Concealed firearm just seems like "too much privileged white man afraid of minorities/looking for a fight" to the fucking prosecutor scumbags.
>>80343238
>>80343130
No, these laws have been on the books for a long time, and for good reason. The law lays out terms for responsible gun use for a reason.
If you were just walking down the street, passing a guy, and he decided that you were threatening his life and pulled a gun on you, how would you feel about that? You'd feel scared, disturbed, threatened, uncomfortable.
It's about proportional response. Unless your life is threatened, you can't threaten somebody else's. It's a law as old as history circa Hammurabi's Code of Laws. "An eye for an eye"
Send your tips
>The Police Bureau would like to hear from anyone who personally witnessed Strickland's behavior or has pictures or video to share. Any tips should be emailed to [email protected] and they will be shared with an investigator.
http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7403
>>80342927
Did you watch the whole video?
Have you ever been beat down by a gang?
Of course not. You'll be singing a different tune when they come for you.
>>80343672
You can still say he was responding appropriately to being assaulted
If he fired? Too much, yeah, as they were backed off.
But leading up to it?
>>80343672
You are so fucking stupid I honestly hope you die, soon.everything you just said is dangerously innacurate and stupid. Nigger tier SAT score, level of stupid.
>>80343672
That is hardly true.
In my training, for instance, brandishing is the first level of declaring self-defense. He was in the right.
Brandishing is all that is needed and it is fine to do so, however he ought to have kept his muzzle discipline and kept it at the low ready.
>>80343672
>The fact that he did both of these things and walked away unscathed is evidence that his life wasn't in danger, and that he knew it wasn't.
No, the situation obviously changed once he pulled the gun out. Everybody that had been following him decided to take a few steps back.
MOST of them got the idea that it was very dangerous to stalk and threaten him like they were doing before.
Once the situation changed, his apprehension of it also changed.
>>80336999
my mother got stuck in town as a huge protest against the government was happening. bout 10k nigs. when the nigs saw my mom stuck in the car they started yelling and chimping and within a few seconds have cleared a path for her so she could drive out, then continued right on rioting.
funny world we live in
>>80343747
That video might help him. He was obviously in danger.
>>80343290
He sounds like a reasonable cunt to me. Do you even go outside?
>>80343468
He might have. But a reasonable person wouldn't fear for their life because no lethal force was presented against him.
>>80343498
No, it wasn't. Posture is not threat of lethal force. A deadly weapon is. Assault is. Threats of lethal violence are. Walking and telling a guy to leave is not.
>>80343672
this
>>80343819
So he should have down a sweeping aim at their groins downards and not holstered? That would improve his chance of self-defence plea?
>>80343712
I've had guns pulled on me a few times, son.
When you're getting bum rushed by gangbangers be sure to fill them in on the legal ramifications of their actions.
>>80336999
>none of the lead up
>all of the aftermath
very informative
His mistake was drawing early. He should have waited until one of them tried to actually strike him. At that point, stand your ground law kicks in and you have the legal right to put them down. He also would have had video evidence.
why do these people put themselves in this position? obviously if there is a BLM protest if you're white you should stay away
>>80343911
He was clearly being threatened with intimidation by several men.
Drawing would be a reasonable action here, especially as he was retreating.
>>80343911
It is a legal fact that if you are being stared at by a nog, you are in danger.
>>80343819
This. Any of you ninnies otherwise need to hand in your balls too while your at it. "Yeah, hey can you hold on while I unholster my weapon because NOW I feel in danger."
Not how it works, brandishing in many cases is enough to do the job, albeit as anon said he could have done better with the trigger discipline.
>>80341194
They are and have been a de-escalation factor since the induction of the firearm.
As someone, who unlike you, as been in combat even, the fucking military tells you to point your weapon at them, and use the threat of violence to get the dumb ass to fuck off. This idea that "guns are only to be used as my fudd class taught me" is a massively fucking retarded one that sprang from fat old fucks like yourself being afraid that they don't have the balls to actually pull a trigger. Way to remove yet another way to de escalate a situation just because you are a fat fuck no balls.
>>80343989
He's media
>>80343819
Time to retrain, moron. He had no way of knowing that these people who were "threatening his life" weren't packing. The second he holsters his firearm he's leaving himself open to a headshot.
If somebody was threatening his life, he should have fired on that person. If not, he should have never pulled his gun.
Actually, I have to say they guy got the message about relaxing around blacks.
>turning your back guarantees a brick to the head
looks like a young keanu
>>80343933
He wouldn't even needed to lift his aim-point. His muzzle should have constantly been pointed towards the ground. That is the low ready.
That said, his posture reasonable, his pistol grip was fine and he seemed adamant of the appropriateness of his reaction. I trust in justice and feel that he will be innocent, but the courts will decide that.
>>80343563
Different case, and I don't know the details or I would comment. In this case, it was unjustified, unlawful use of a weapon.
You just said you feared for your life every time you see a black person. That's not reasonable.
So don't walk in a dark alley? Or do and be threatened or assaulted. I'm just talking about American law. I don't know what shitty desert law you guys use in the Australian Shitposting Republic.
>>80343989
This.
I guess the believe the liberal fantasies and emotion trumps reason? Like I said, they'll learn the hard way, sooner or later.
>>80336999
The US is so fucked up internally. They focused on the outside world so much the last 100 years they completely forgot about the inside
>>80344080
He put the gun back when they backed off
Escalation of force is a thing in defensive actions
>>80344073
wont he get fired by his leftist superiors for drawing (regardless of whether it was justified or not) on them?
>>80338563
The only acceptable warning shot is into a nigger warning other niggers that you mean business
>>80344080
I was always under the impression you could only point your weapon at someone if you intend to fire it/life is in immediate danger
>>80339784
>Trump supporter
I slowly turning on a point where ethnic cleansing is justified.
Why do so many REKT videos have the WorldStarHipHop watermark on them?
Are they pulling videos from other websites and watermarking them or what?
I'm not a nigger so I don't know anything about the site
>>80344151
>ou just said you feared for your life every time you see a black person.
No. Every time I see a gangster nigger, swagging along, dragging his knuckles, eyes popping out of his head on drugs.
Not a black person.
>>80344172
>>80344187
>>80344205
>>80344250
Aussie shitposting intensifies
>>80344156
>liberal fantasies and emotion trumps reason
You mean like all the rightwingers here rationalization an idiot's obvious guilt because he makes funny videos?
>>80340272
But now you are a video journalist that is either forced in to that situation or you make your living filming protests. What I saw looked totally reasonable.
>>80343672
>if he waited
DEY WUZ JUS HITTIN EM WIF FISTS!
DEYZ GUD KEEIDS, HE DIDN'T NEED NO GUN.
DEY NEVER HURT NUTTIN DEY JUS PLAYIN!
Goddamn you people are tiresome. I would have loved to see him keep it holstered then use it on those scumbags about 15 seconds later when they started attacking him, but he did them a huge favor by not doing that and making those pieces of shit learn the hard way.
And you didn't like when Zimmerman did exactly what you propose, did you fag?
>>80344080
First off, while they might have been "packing", this wouldn't negate his use of his firearm; that's retarded. He brandished to let it be known that he was panicked, at risk, and to disperse attackers.
I have followed this man on youtube for months now, and can attest that he has been very close to being mobbed. His response ought to be taken in the context of his situation.
The fact is that while his "life" might not have been threatened, his body very well could have been.
You use headshot so loosely. He never opened himself up for that. He made it known he was carrying so as to change the situation. He'll be fine.
>>80338781
This dude got fucked by the liberal court. It's plain as day.
>>80343911
His life was obviously in danger. When a mob adopts a threatening posture and stalks you, you're in danger. You have no way to defend yourself if they decide to do anything. If you don't recognize that, you're some kind of super autismo.
I bet you 100 dollars any cop would draw a weapon if he were in the same situation.
>>80343747
Haha no I've never been assaulted by a mob. I don't like to get myself in those situations like you clearly do.
It was a protest with lots of media and cops standing by. I watched the whole video. Nothing life threatening about people walking towards you ON A MARCH IN THAT DIRECTION.
>>80343819
I don't know what shitty state you live in, but you can't brandish a weapon and threaten others with when they're not threatening you in Oregon.
>>80343876
Yes.
>>80343950
Yeah, and how did having a gun pulled on you unlawfully make you feel? You want that every day of your life?
I don't get assaulted by gangbangers, and neither did he. It was a fucking protest.
>>80344370
tfw even serious thought out posts are dumped in the 'shitpost' bin
feelsbadman
>>80339859
TLDR: I type math equations for no reason
>>80339137
Freedom of speech though
>>80336999
>"im scared to turn my back! stay away so i can leave!!"
lol @ beta cc faggots
>>80344383
He was guilty of fearing for his life and waving a gun around so he could escape. He killed no one. He harmed no one. Why do you want him to go to prison for being afraid and reckless?
>>80344419
Some people think that
drawing = you're in fear of your life
No, drawing is equal to say, assault (menacing in this shit hole of a US city)
If you're being assaulted (menaced), you're able to assault someone back if you didn't provoke the incident.
This is why you hear the report say he said mean things to some black women -- this gives them the excuse to charge him, as he instigated it in their eyes.
I'm sure he didn't say shit.
>>80344512
Again, his claim is that he was being threatened. It's convenient that the video begins only as he brandishes his pistol, and fails to record preceding events. He very well could have been threatened as he has before.
>>80338781
this is what happens what any idiot is allowed to purchase a firearm
people just don't understand that guns are serious.
>>80339406
fucking retard thats how the law works up here, this was in portland.
>>80340873
not even true my dude
>>80344608
I can guarantee he didn't say shit; he's kept his cool during some bad scenarios, I doubt he would react this way without a damn good reason.
>>80344640
Pointing is equal to assault, you mong.
If he's being assaulted or fears that he will be, he can do such.
>>80336999
Who wants to raise money to ship a BMP-2 in parts into the US, ride into a protest and die a glorious death while killing niggers and liberals?
I'm up. Bring your own weapons and ammo.
>>80344187
No, he's going to state prison for a maximum of five years. Three minimum.
>>80344419
First reasonable post I've seen. You'd make a decent defense lawyer. Defense commonly uses previous states and trauma to explain a defendants actions. I mean, you'd lose the case, but it's a good attempt.
>>80344492
They weren't stalking him. They were marching. He was following them, ahead of them and filming. He chose to be followed, or rather, walk directly in front of a march.
You DO have a right to do something if you reasonably believe you're in danger. He wasn't.
Cops are different. These felonies don't apply to policemen on the job.
>>80344512
I grew up in ghettos and went to inner city schools. Being neither white nor black I was a minority at 'black' schools.
Yes, they carried guns into the school back then.
It was common to duck when the popping starts.
Maybe you should spend some time with gang bangers, you might learn a thing or two.
>>80337343
>https://youtu.be/FH7aTp8DsVI
Looks fair..wannabe niggers acting like thugs threaten him and he shows teeth....what is the problem? did he hurt their feelings?
>>80338781
Welcome to America.
Remember,
>Zimmerman turned pure Aryan the moment a nigger was involved
>Multiple Asian cops become proxys through which white supremacy is enacted (they are actually saying this, yes.) the moment a nigger is involved and lose everything
IF YOU ARE NOT A NIGGER
IF YOU ARE WHITE, HISPANIC OR ASIAN
YOU ARE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN AMERICA
The sooner you realize this the better.
>>80338781
Not even in Sweden would i be charged for that lmao.
>>80343736
Stand by for complete crucifiction of this man. This is going to go mainstream because Oregon attorney general is going to go crazy with it.
>>80342249
In swedish law self defence criteria is fulfilled if you felt threatened. It even allows more use of force then necessary if you were in a situation where it is deemed that you had a hard time controlling your aggression. Oregon law seems super cucked.
>>80344151
Any jury who sees the way those "protestors" surrounded and swarmed him will be forced to admit that he reasonably feared for his life, especially in the context of blacks actually murdering people as they did in houston and in new york last winter. or as they did in los angeles some years ago.
>>80344632
While I haven't seen what happened previously, at the moment he drew his gun, he was not in danger of life threatening assault. His reaction was disproportionate and unlawful. That's all there is to it.
You could make the argument that he was previously threatened, but you'd need to prove it, prove the individual that did it, did it, and prove that at the time he drew his weapon, that individual was threatening his life. Nothing wrong with that defense. It's just a losing defense.
>>80344887
>They were marching.
Since when does marching involve multiple people being within striking distance of a person? Is this a new kind of marching that looks just like aggressive posturing from a crowd or group?
He should have learned from /k/.
White people (including chinks ) aren't allowed to defend themselves from mobs.
Rest in jail sweet prince.
>>80344887
>he's backing down, verbally indicates that he's leaving and doesn't want to be followed
>people keep following and outright shoving him past that point
Does this just count for nothing or something
>>80336999
>WSHH
Nothing of value was lost, you think any potential Trump supporters go there? Its youtube for black people
>>80344906
Why the hell would I want to do that? I'm just laying out the law in this situation. The dude is fucked.
>>80345092
Pretty standard for all American law. And personally I agree with it.
>>80345100
Feared for his safety maybe, but not for his life. They didn't present lethal force. He did. He loses. Case closed.
I'm so glad my state has laws for this exact situation.
>http://le.utah.gov/~2010/bills/static/HB0078.html
>76-2-402. Force in defense of person
TLDR in my state I could have drawn and then shot one of those nigs to prevent the others from approaching me.
Welcome to Utah where we have a 1.6% black population and can buy guns with cash.
>>80336999
LOOOOOOOOL sweet son of Mary and Joseph. That was embarrassing as all hell. He looked like he'd played My Little Pony board games since birth then decided to whip a gun out one day.
When did this happen anyway?
>>80336999
Bunch of niggers rush me I hope i have a bigger gun, oh wait, I do
>>80344887
>They weren't stalking him. They were marching. He was following them, ahead of them and filming. He chose to be followed, or rather, walk directly in front of a march.
No... They're right in his face. They're surrounding him and making aggressive gestures. It's not that he happens to be in front of them, they're intentionally invading his personal space to threaten him.... and he's backing away from them.
>>80345249
He obciously had reason to feel threatened when a mob was menacing him. You are cucks
>>80345092
This, If this happend in Sweden it would be investigated by the police but charges would not be pressed if handled correctly like in the video.
I wonder how libtards feel in cucked states such as Oregon.
>Protesting against police
>We called the police they'll be here soon.
>>80345249
Because all you see is "law".
Your only life experience seems to be studying case precedent. You know damn little about people.
>>80341889
What the fuck are liberals doing in /pol/?
>>80345209
It's part of the march. They're allowed to be on the street. No stand your ground law in Oregon.
He has to be presented with threats of lethal force to respond with lethal force. Period.
>>80345150
Apparently you've never been to a protest. Protests are aggressive and angry sometimes. And if you're opposition, you DON'T GO to that protest unless there is an opposition protest organized.
Yes everyone is within striking distance at a protest. That's how it works.
>>80336999
why would anyone willingly put themselves in this situation, especially if they're white? Shit, if you're older than 25 and you think it's a good idea to join a crowd of tens of thousands of angry niggers and wiggers you deserve a violent death if that's what it comes to.
>>80345249
feared for his life. similar situations resulted in killing in the past. their rhetoric literally includes threats of murder. he was outnumbered ten to one. no jury in this country would convict.
>>80342123
Wow what faggot
>North Korean army coming slowly towards you
>You pull guns because you're scared
>>80344415
Meanwhile he's possibly going to jail and loses his right to have firearms. So who really won? If he waits until someone assaults him he can legally draw and fire. As it stands he is going down.
>>80345400
>>80345363
I'm a law student. What I see is the law, yes. His feelings don't matter. He broke the law.
>>80345328
That's an appropriate argument, but they didn't threaten him with lethal force. Jesus, how many times do I have to repeat this?
Let's say you're on the street in front of a marathon. A whole crowd of people are "invading your space" and you decide to pull a gun on them because you feel your life is threatened. Reasonable? You decide.
This is no different. No one threatened him. He threatened their lives. He's guilty.
>>80345517
Fuck that noise. It's a public street he has every right to be there.
Syrup sucking maplenigger.
>>80345458
>Protests are aggressive and angry sometimes.
This doesn't give people carte blanche to be aggressive and threatening towards anyone they feel like and you're an idiot if you think it does.
>Yes everyone is within striking distance at a protest. That's how it works.
You're either being intentionally obtuse or you're genuinely retarded. Being in a crowd is entirely different from moving towards someone telling you to back up while taking an aggressive posture or making threats.
>>80345268
What also comes to mind immediately is that if he could put that much distance between them before pulling the gun, then he really never needed to pull the gun at all. He also could have just left without pulling the gun at all. This whole "afraid" thing nonsense. The whole thing was probably a gimmick to get the cops over.
>>80345400
Even ignoring the law, there's no chance this faggot's life was danger. Were this happening live and he was unarmed, I'd be willing to bet that he'd walk away without a scratch. Especially considering that this person has hundreds of hours of video of him provoking protesters, most likely the SAME protesters in this video, considering they all seem to know who he is, and they have never harmed him before.
>>80345688
Wow, you're pretty fucked.
>>80345519
I guarantee you, 100% he will be convicted and sentenced 3-5 years, and fined $125,000.
I'm in Criminal Defense in law school, and I can tell you I would immediately plead him out. He's as guilty as can be and any jury would convict them.
>>80345458
>stalking and shoving, making direct physical contact
>It's part of the march.
Now I'm not sure that one's a fact
>>80345688
>I'm a law student.
>>80345410
Sorry, does you safe space feel violated? Are you gonna start waving a gun around?
>>80345688
>That's an appropriate argument, but they didn't threaten him with lethal force. Jesus, how many times do I have to repeat this?
I already agreed that (as far as we know) there was no explicit lethal threat by any particular member of the group.
But the group itself obviously represents a danger to his life because they're angry and intentionally threatening him (although not with lethal force).
His life is in danger even without that. If a gang is behaving threateningly and surrounding you, your life is in danger.
>>80341298
make a thread
>>80345688
>What I see is the law, yes. His feelings don't matter. He broke the law.
He were facing imminent danger as the "protestors" were threatning him with physical violance.
In Sweden he would have been allowed to brandish the gun in order to deter the protestors as the risk of the protestors assaulting him could end up with stealing the gun from him which is far worse than brandishing the gun.
That is why i always carry my guns loaded and holstered clearly visable.
I don't understand how the law could be like that, I think the fact that the protestors could have overmanned him and steal his gun is faar worse than the fact that he deterred him with the gun.
I see nothing wrong and neither does Swedens justice system.
>>80345740
They were marching toward him. He was standing in the way. Prove to me his life was threatened.
>>80345375
>>80345363
Fun fact, US liberals would be you if they could. They don't know you though and so they just try to do what they think you do.
Example: Under California law a Pillow can be considered a Deadly Weapon.
>>80346073
>Example: Under California law a Pillow can be considered a Deadly Weapon.
Kek that is illegal in Sweden.
But atleast we can have any magazine size in differance from commiefornia hehe.
>>80345852
Not any jury in my state.
>>80344640
Being rushed by dozens niggers with melee weapons isn't a good enough reason shoot them, let alone raise your weapon is self defense.
>>80346152
>>80346073
Fugg i missread, I thought you said having your firearm under your pillow is illegal which is illegal in Sweden.
>>80345842
Eh, whatever. I'm desensitized to and I have to be. I'll be in Portland defending niggers for free at state expense next year. My duty to my clients is to plea out and get them the least time and fines possible, or go to trial and possibly win.
>>80346048
They had ample space to go around if he was in there way. Based on that fact it's pretty clear they were moving towards him and not simply in the direction he happened to be in or there would be no reason for them to have gotten that close.
>Prove to me his life was threatened.
Don't go attributing claims to me that I haven't made. You're not going to make a very good pretend lawyer if you make mistakes like that.
Reminder that if this happened at a Trump rally and the gunman was black, nobody ITT would be arguing the law.
Reminder that /pol/ is MUH FEELINGS incarnate.
>>80346249
It's fine, it's just your brain being unaccustomed to west coast liberals. It takes a while at first before you can begin processing this kind of shit because it goes against all common sense.
>>80346320
Wouldn't happen at a trump rally.
Trump people enact violence as individuals, not as a collective. They don't swarm their prey.
>>80346008
>no explicit lethal threat
Case closed.
No one was presenting life threatening force. His response was disproportionate. Case close.
>>80346035
Yes, the protesters could have killed him. But there is no clear evidence that they intended to, and no evidence that his life was threatened.
>>80346192
Which shitty state do you live in?
>>80346446
>No one was presenting life threatening force. His response was disproportionate. Case close.
I'm just arguing that you're wrong to say that his life was not in danger. You can say case closed or whatever. I don't care about that.
It's still obvious to anyone that his life was in danger.
>>80346431
And Secret Service would have swept the crowd.
He just went full retard.
>>80346310
I'm not attributing a claim. I'm stating that that proof is necessary by law to justify him responding with a firearm in that manner.
You're right, they did have space to ignore him and go around him. And yes, they should have just kept walking and left him alone. But you're also allowed to talk to people, even yell at people in the streets and approach them. That doesn't call for the response of lethal force. Even if they were shoving him, that means nothing. If they drew knives and charged him, different story.
>>80346384
Haha yes, It boggles my mind how liberals can exist even.
It is people like them who come up with retarded ideas such as "anti rape wristband"
>>80346515
I disagree and I think, based on the footage, that a jury would also disagree.
>>80346641
I'm just glad I don't have to be around any left coast neolibs.
>>80336999
Peace was never an option. Its time for a race war. The kindling is ready. Someone set the flame.
>>80346632
>I'm not attributing a claim. I'm stating that that proof is necessary by law to justify him responding with a firearm in that manner.
I haven't claimed he was justified or his life was in danger at any point. The only thing I'm arguing is that your version of events is incorrect and not consistent with the video.
>You're right, they did have space to ignore him and go around him. And yes, they should have just kept walking and left him alone. But you're also allowed to talk to people, even yell at people in the streets and approach them. That doesn't call for the response of lethal force. Even if they were shoving him, that means nothing. If they drew knives and charged him, different story.
So you admit they weren't just marching and that they did approach him in an aggressive manner.
>>80346446
>Yes, the protesters could have killed him. But there is no clear evidence that they intended to, and no evidence that his life was threatened.
It is not about his life being threatned, It is about the fact that these protestors could have overmanned him and steal his gun.
He literally did not do anything wrong.
Maybe Oregon laws says he were wrong but in the rest of the US and in the Nordic countries he would not be charged for it as it is more important to make sure that the gun dousn't fall into the wrong hands.
I could even have shot the closest guy and i would be likely to get released/minimum punishment for it here in Sweden.
>>80340177
>Dat trigger discipline
>>80346781
Well, We don't have west coast liberals here but we have SwedenYES liberals and i sometimes wonder which is worse..
But thank god they are a small minority here.
>>80341347
Better to be in the back of a police car than the back of an ambulance
>>80338781
how the fuck, im not even white and thise really pisses me off
>>80346961
Haha, our lefties are worse.
>>80338781
Omg it look likes he hired a child as his lawyer
>when you know you won't have a job come Monday.
>>80346867
No they were clearly marching. It was a planned march with a planned route. He was filming the protest and was in their way. Yes, a couple individuals in the group confronted him and continued walking towards him as he backed up. But he could have left very easily without drawing his firearm. I don't think he was in any significant danger. Particularly at the moment he drew his weapon.
>>80346886
The majority of states would also find this behavior illegal without a "stand your ground" law. Even then I think he would be convicted.
I'm unfamiliar with Swedish law, but I doubt that's true.
>>80347068
I haven't met any but we have some of the worlds most retarded leftards.
They are the definition of insanity.
They justify the fact that the invading hordes of mudslimes can come here and behave like they please.
I can't literally see it being worse than that.
>>80347090
>Yes, a couple individuals in the group confronted him and continued walking towards him as he backed up.
So yes they did approach him in an aggressive manner.
>>80347008
Five years in prison with a record of threatening black protesters with a gun? Please, he's going to be raped repeatedly.
>>80347252
If I recall correctly, you let them in legally as asylum seekers.
>>80345249
Drawing a firearm isn't = murder (firing) or attempted, you mong
It's "menacing"
Proportionate force
>>80347237
>The majority of states would also find this behavior illegal without a "stand your ground" law. Even then I think he would be convicted.
Convicted for avoiding a potential deadly situation?
jesus that is just stupid.
>I'm unfamiliar with Swedish law, but I doubt that's true.
It is, it falls under the category of "Nödvärnsexcess" Which means that if you are in a position where you feel threatned or is enraged and are in a different state of mind than the normal one you have.
Brandishing the gun to deter them from stealing your gun is completly legal here.
And if they walked closer i could even shoot the closest guy and it would be viewed as self defence as he did not comply to my order to back of.
We have the same rights to use our firearm as policeofficers do.
>>80347289
Depends on your definition of aggressive. The legal definition would be threatening the unjustified use of force in this context. I'd say that their behavior could be interpreted this way, but not in a life-threatening manner certainly. I mean, he might have gotten shoved and yelled at, but that's it.
>>80347380
They cross the Öresund bridge from Denmark without any documentation, It is illegal by the law but as soon as they arrive they seek asylum which makes them "legal" If they don't then they become illegal but our police is stretched so thin that illegals can resort to hiding and are unlikely to be deported unless they commit a crime.
>>80347623
Yeah, well that's the law here, and if you have a deadly weapon, you have to know the law.
That's interesting, didn't know you guys had liberal menacing laws.
>>80347619
I'm speaking in context of the menacing law which he is charged with. It's only considered lawful brandishing of a firearm if you are threatened with lethal force.
He's also charged with unlawful use of a firearm because of this menacing charge, the former of which carries a five year maximum sentence.
>>80347719
Yeah, I know the situation is really bad in Sweden. You guys, or your politicians rather, took on more than they could handle, and then continued giving handouts to illegals. Sorry, brother. I feel for your country.
>>80345852
so you're not even a bad a lawyer, you're a bad student lawyer. god, I'm glad I'm not your future client.
>>80347654
That's all I wanted.
>>80347902
Then, if you can show that he's being menaced himself without provocation, then he is in the right.
Don't look under lawful homicide; that doesn't count as he use excessive force to what we see.
Look under basic self-defense laws
>>80347902
>That's interesting, didn't know you guys had liberal menacing laws.
The differance between us and the US is that CC licences are extremly rare so we have do open carry.
And i can't walk into population centers with my rifle/pistol out as it would be deemed reckless.
Iam only allowed to carry my firearm if iam going between the huntingtrip/fireing range
And i can't leave the gun in the vehicle so i have to carry it in my holster at all times.
In some counties the police want it to be unloaded but i spoke with my local county police and they said they want me to have it loaded which surprised me.
