http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2014/07/02/americans-vote-obama-worst-the-president-since-world-war-ii
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A new poll shows Americans think President Barack Obama is the worst commander in chief since World War II.
>Unlike Ronald Reagan, who respondents determined to be the best president since World War II, Obama led the pack of the most disliked presidents. Of the 12 men who have taken over the Oval Office since 1945, 33 percent of voters surveyed said Obama is the worst.
>The Quinnipiac University poll surveyed 1,446 registered voters nationwide from June 24-30. The margin of error was +/-2.6.
Also further BTFOing for the Chimp in Chief.
>What's more, results show that many Americans think Mitt Romney would have been a more effective president had he won the election in 2012. Forty-five percent of voters say the country would be better off if Romney was in Obama's place, while 38 percent say it would be worse.
And Quinnipiac is a pretty respected organization so they can't claim MUH REPUBLICAN BIAS.
https://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2056
>>80302765
>since World War II.
But America won WW2. Why wouldn't they like that president?
shitstain in 2008: Obama will be a great prezuhdint
shitstain in 2016: TRUMP WILL B THE WORST PREZIDENT EVAR!!! REEE HE START WWIII AND I HAVE NO PROOF OR LOGICAL EXPLANATION OF THIS
>>80302765
I really hope his legacy is garbage because it's all he cares about.
>>80302765
i really like that obama pic
>>80302975
That is the start of "modern" times.
>>80302765
Not just the worst since WWII, but second worst of ALL TIME.
If full scale civil/race war erupts under his presidency, which I wouldn't be surprised if it does, he will officially be worse than Buchanan in my opinion. As bad as things are right now, at least the US isn't in the middle of a devastating civil war that will take the lives of a million+ Americans.
>>80302975
Might mean a poll of only presidents since WWII, not that the last worst president was after WWII. It's a way to gauge the modern US presidency. WWII changed America.
>>80303440
No way Obama is worse than FDR or Wilson.
>>80302765
>Unlike Ronald Reagan, who respondents determined to be the best president since World War II
I can't take this poll seriously. Reagan was a shit President who had much more show than substance.
>>80303619
Great leader, really shitty president. He's got the bravado and charisma, and to most people they only see that. Any poll is going to end up that way.
I'm actually kind of worried that Trump is going to end up that way also, but hopefully Regan being all charisma was due to him being an actor. Trump at least understands very well how to manage an organization and use cash efficiently.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx
Try again.
>>80302765
wew fucking lad
He's gonna be a footnote on Trump's page. Just like Buchanan
>>80302765
>reagan
>best president
He definitely handled the malaise era better than Carter, but that's all he really had going for him. Despite this, all the economic benefits were offset by the dramatic increase in debt he incurred.
Plus, his administration was corrupt as all hell.
Nixon and Eisenhower are far better candidates.
And just in case of MUH BIAS, here's a Republican-leaning site: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-trump-hillary-2016-7
there is literally no evidence pointing to obama being a good president
>>80302765
>A new poll shows Americans think President Barack Obama is the worst commander in chief since World War II.
yet... you voted him in TWICE
>>80304093
Ehh, Trump just plays up the Reagan card because he knows he'll get votes with it. He's running multi-billion dollars companies, he's learned what actually works and what doesn't.
>>80302765
>since World War II
If if if if if if if ... Yesterday, December 7, a date that will live in ... okie doke...
>>80303440
He WANTED to be the next FDR... but he just wasn't smart enough due to not being full white or having crafty jew genetics... so thankfully he didn't do as much damage as he would've liked to.
FDR was way fucking worse though... if you can't answer why off the top of your head I'd advise reading up on a bit of basic US political history before... discussing it.
>>80302765
lol bush jr was such a disaster
only fox news addicts and kids in their early 20s would believe obama was the worst
he is fucking awful but he wasnt a C student, drunk driving, coke sniffing, draft dodging fuckup that became president cuz his daddy was only to spend trillions on 2 unwinnable wars decade long wars that killed thousands of american servicemen
i guess i am too old for this board
>>80304568
I didn't like Romney. Looking back on it though I have accepted I fucked up and apologize and will be voting Trump. You have to admit Obama was pretty good at speaking in front of crowds, only when he had a teleprompter, but still.
>>80302765
Well yeah they put a gun free zone toting muslim sympathizer whitey pay up liberal in office. Who at this point would be surprised?
>>80303117
everyone keeps saying he'll start ww3, but why is that necessarily a bad thing. All told, the last two world wars worked out pretty damn good for usa.
>>80303534
Obama: 5th worst
LBJ: 4th worst (Great Society)
FDR: 3rd worst (New Deal, WWII interventionism)
Lincoln: 2nd worst (War of Northern Aggression)
Wilson: Worst (Federal Reserve, Federal Income Tax, League of Nations, Treaty of Versailles, WWI Interventionism)
How many times has a current US president been considered the worst in history?
I don't doubt the shittiness of Obama of course. But it'd be interesting to see how often current presidents are considered the biggest pieces of shit. They're always at the forefront of the current politics, after all, so the bias would be real.
>>80304568
>yet... you voted him in TWICE
I am actually convinced that he lost the last election. But the Democrats and the DNC are no dummies when nit come to voter fraud. The race really came down to a handful of precincts in Ohio that the DNC managed to 'Rock The Vote' Places where the Dems got 100 % of the vote,. Sometimes more than 100% ...places like that got Obama elected.
>>80303440
As much as I am hoping a race war occurs to finally stomp the uppity niggers down I feel the internet has made the generations too lazy to do anything but complain.
Can anyone name one thing this monkey has done that has benefitted this country? Honestly I can not think of a single thing in almost 8 years.
>inb4 he killed bin laden
No he didn't, highly skilled Navy Seals killed Bin Laden, nigger coon just likes to take credit becuase it's legitimately all he has.
>>80304568
I didn't bother voting in either election.
Electoral college system makes your vote totally meaningless unless you're in a swing state and im in a red state anyway.
Only way I could have influenced it was to move across the state line to Ohio.
>>80302765
>boomers mad because their stupid fucking retirement packages shrunk due to their stupid fucking financial decisions
What else is new?
>>80304784
I remember bush 2 and Obama imhas been far far worse on an international and domestic scale.
The worst part is that Hillary is the worst of bush 2 and Obama combined.
>>80305005
At any point in history, the current president will always be a popular answer for "worst ever" among the masses.
In the "worst since WW2" polls, righties always say Obama and lefties are always split between Bush II and Nixon (even though Nixon was based)
>>80305139
in other words: the U.S. "democracy" is corrupt and rigged to such an extent, that even the chink system is a more meritorious system of appointment government... ja?
>>80305838
neither system is good if you put all the power in the hands of intellectual they will just use it on themselves
As far as I understand from U.S history, Wilson is who I would put up as worst American president of all time. I actually hear his name dropped a lot by most Americans I've spoken to regarding this topic.
>>80303619
Reagan is highly ranked by scholars tho
>>80304896
>sorry for being such a retard but hey! he sounded smart and stuff...
Fuck off you retard
>>80306191
Scholars also put Wilson and FDR up there too.
Fuck them.
Reagan was nothing but a globalist shill that loved Zionism. Trump faced an uphill battle at the start of his campaign because of this fucktard's legacy.
>>80306373
>thinking nigger adopting Romney is a better choice
they were both garbage
>>80302765
>Unlike Ronald Reagan, who respondents determined to be the best president since World War II,
Yeah, well those people are wrong so... I'm not saying Obama is a good President, but Reagan was a massive pile of shit and was directly responsible for the dot com bubble and the fucking 2008 crash among other things. He's definitely the worst President of the 20th century, by far, with Carter in close second. Nixon was the best president since WWII desu.
>>80304937
100% agree. Good list
>>80306440
Here's my list of the top 5 Presidents.
Jackson
TR
Washington
Nixon
Taft
>>80306764
>doesn't include the man who wrote both the constitution and the bill of rights in his top 5
>instead includes 3 meme presidents and a fatty
Lad....
>>80306642
Never said that. I was calling you a retard based on your justification
go back to high school to fix your lack of reading comprehension
>>80302765
> Obama's Legacy: WORST PRESIDENT SINCE WORLD WAR II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
>>80306955
How about you use reading comprehension I never said what the justification was I just said I didn't like Romney and Obama was a better speaker. Go sperg out somewhere else child.
>>80306440
But FDR was the best US president.
>>80307274
>But FDR was the best US president
Except he wasn't. Not even close.
>war monger
>hated freedom
>New Deal did more harm than good
>>80302765
this always happens at the end of a presidents term. when no one gives a shit about him he'll be real high cause "NARRATIVE"
>>80304093
>>80303619
reagan was ran by his cabinet and Bush1. He had very little interest in the actual policy. He was even more of a figure head than GWB. Best president since ww2 is Kennedy sorry. Was able to get us out of cuban missle crisis, gave Americans hope for the future, a symbol for what could have been and the last legitimate sovereign president b4 the government went full dark state.
5 best presidents by Anon Anoncy
>George Washington: father of the country
>Jackson: fuck banks and fuck Indians
>Eisenhower: fuck Mexicans
>Jefferson: manifest destiny baby
>Monroe: fuck Europe
>>80305645
>tfw you live in San Francisco
Do I even bother
>>80307434
>Kennedy
Kek, not even close
>>80307249
>admits to being further swayed to vote King Nigger because he speaks gud
>calling someone else a child
LMFAO
Top 3 for me:
Jackson
Jefferson
Eisenhower
>>80307434
>Was able to get us out of cuban missle crisis
Kennedy made it a crisis. The Russians had smuggled the missiles out of Cuba a week before the US caught wind of it.
>gave Americans hope for the future, a symbol for what could have been and the last legitimate sovereign president b4 the government went full dark state
You realize that he was the exact same as LBJ, correct? If you hate LBJ, you actually hate Kennedy. His only saving grace when it comes to policy is the fact that taking a bullet to the face from a commie does wonders for your PR in the long term.
>>80307616
You seem like a retard who would vote for an inarticulate person. If that isn't a factor at all in how they relay a message to you then you are laughably stupid.
>>80304676
fdr saved america from falling to the proles in the 30s and won ww2. Literally voted in 4 times How was he bad?
>>80302975
the era of modern presidential polling practices began after ww2
>>80307434
I really have a lot of respect for JFK. I remember watching a documentary on the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the action and timing required for that shit was amazing. JFK also got us to the moon too, so I think historically he's bretty gud. I don't know about best, but top 3 no doubt.
>>80307482
You left out Theodore Roosevelt you fucking mongoloid. We carved his face on a mountain for a reason.
>>80307540
>>80307540
>he lives in the People's Republic of California
No, lol. California will always be a blue state no matter what happens. Don't they give illegals driver's licenses there?
>>80307621
Top cliche for me; Washington, Jackson, and controversially, Lincoln was a pretty fashy goy if the Dems hands assassinated him we would have been the best country post haste
>>80307812
>Literally voted in 4 times
He was voted in the second time by having the competition murdered.
>>80307390
>war monger
against imperialist Germany and japan oh so terrible
>hated freedom
lol your a cuck
>New Deal did more harm than good
well considering the new deal stopped America falling to the proles i find that hard to believe. It was very possible for the U.S. to go socialist then.
>>80307780
although communication is an important factor, to imply that Obama's abilities should be regarded as an important asset, when you yourself admit it is largely fabricated, is foolhardy
also, nice strawman in implying I'd vote for an inarticulate moron
seriously, go back to high school
>The every day American
>Actually knowing just how bad FDR was
I don't think so motherfucker, I've asked plenty and almost everyone is bluepill as fuck on him just like they are that faggot jfk
>>80304937
Southerner detected.
>>80307663
>You realize that he was the exact same as LBJ, correct?
except it was lbj who orchestrated his assassination so no.
>>80308161
The ability for a candidate to speak is always an important asset genius. Even if fabricated he pulled it off well why do you think Nixon was so fucking popular because he set the cameras and speeches up to have the most dramatic effect. Jesus it's like I really am speaking with a child. Other factors obviously play a role which I never went into and you just assumed stupid shit.
OP stop saying commander in chief when you mean president
Any presidential poll that says that Reagan was the greatest president is inherently wrong.
I'm telling you all.
Obama only cares about the legacy he leaves behind. That's all he has going for him.
To kill Obama you must kill his legacy.
>>80302765
Muthafucka tried to kill the internet 5 times trying to pass those acts. Fuck him.
>>80308411
>implies he's speaking with a child
>writes with clumsy, run on sentences
anyway, to address your content... do you truly believe Obama's speaking abilities truly surpassed Romney's in such a way that this fabricated communication was actually a determinable asset, in your mind?
>>80308117
>against imperialist Germany and japan oh so terrible
>getting involved in things outside of your hemisphere against the will of the American people
>not bad
>lol your a cuck
>bootlicks statists while calling others cucks
Irony
>well considering the new deal stopped America falling to the proles i find that hard to believe. It was very possible for the U.S. to go socialist then
It literally led to a fucking recession almost immediately. This isn't even debatable. There are several premier economists who have hold this opinion that have proved it.
>>80308367
Okay, prove it.
>>80307434
Sauce on regan?
>>80304937
Found the inbred trailer monkey
>>80307996
Can't put TR because he's a progressive shitstain
>>80308591
Obama only cares about maoism
>>80308695
Oh man full blown grammar nazi incoming and yes like most people thought Obama was a better speaker than Romney.
>>80304937
THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!
>>80308975
>uses the term grammar nazi
nevermind, I'm fully convinced that you're still in high school. remain there
>>80309125
Oh man. Show me on the doll where the grammar nazi hurt your feelings to avoid any counter argument on why you somehow think speaking quality isn't a very important asset to the president.
>>80307812
his policies and new deal were effective for the era but are unsustainable today. you wont be getting any of the benefits of social security that you currently pay for by the time youre a senior. but he did inspire hope and give americans morale while introducing new opportunity which is just what america needed at the time. hes nowhere near perfect but he deserves the legacy he has.
>>80302765
This poll is from 2014. The prospects of a trump or clinton presidency have made Obama more popular.
>>80309252
if you're not trolling and actually are legitimately retarded, you'd remember how I stated that communication is an important asset
I find it humorous that you're actually trying to defend your retarded reasoning when you fully admit to being stupid for voting for Obama anyway
you're defending yourself for being duped!
gg no re
>>80309590
Then what are you even arguing about then like a dumbass? I said it was a factor and nothing else except that I had reasons to dislike his opponent then you sperg out like some autist. Would I vote for Obama again? Fuck no and I admit it looked better than it was, but does that mean you need to cry like a baby about it? Grow up.
>>80307621
Jackson
Jefferson
Washington
All pretty based
>>80309910
hey man, I just called you a retard for actually trying to defend your shitty reasoning circa 2012. it's also funny that you continue to respond to what you perceive as autistic sperging.
I think it's time you return to reddit as well
>>80304937
>Lincoln: 2nd worst (War of Northern Aggression)
Yeah we should have let the south keep importing and breeding blacks till the south became Haiti 2.0
>>80310550
>keep importing
You mean that thing that had been illegal since before the union was even founded?
Theodore Roosevelt was arguably the best.
1. Born frail - doc says I can't leave the house. Well fuck this weak body I'll make myself a strong one.
2. Wicked smart. Wrote books, learned skills, helped built shit we take for granted today like the Panama Canal
3. While making a speech, took a bullet to the chest and still kept talking to finish because he knew his biology and knew his mortality.
4. Only independent 3rd party in USA history to come in 2nd place
5. Went to Africa - FOR FUN
6. Mfw he's part of the elite face club of Prez's whose face is on a mountain
7. Loses mum and wife in same day - wrote one thing and then doesn't even say shit about it for the rest of his life
8. Speak softly and carry a big stick
That isn't even the start of it but tell me another President who rivals the shit he did...how many lifetimes would you need.
Fuck even the grim reaper took him away while he was asleep because it would've been too much work to do it if he was awake
>>80303619
Found the libshit. The gipper was an awesome president.
>>80310737
I agree, TR the man was badass, but his politics was as bad as most tumblr users today.
Not surprising.
>>80310737
>did cool shit before he was President
>therefore he was a good President
No.
>>80310737
>Theodore Roosevelt was arguably the best.
Regardless of his badass persona, he is in large part to blame for the bloated government mess we're in right now. Shit started to go south dramatically during his presidency.
>>80304568
Most of America didn't vote in 08 or in 12. McCain and Romney were shit tier, no one wanted to vote between shit and a douche. So Obama won because Blacks went in a record high to vote for him.
>>80310907
would've been great if niggers didn't exist
>>80310737
too bad in is older years he thought he was going to lead troops to kill germans only to be told he was too outdated.
>>80308591
>To kill Obama you must kill his legacy.
already on it
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/09/18/former-top-nobel-official-says-maybe-obamas-peace-prize-was-not-such-a-good-idea/72396794/
>Speaking to The Associated Press, Lundestad, who sat in on the secretive committee's meetings but did not have a vote, said the committee "thought it would strengthen Obama and it didn't have this effect."
>"In hindsight, we could say that the argument of giving Obama a helping hand was only partially correct," he wrote, according to VG, a Norwegian newspaper.
>>80308829
By today's standards, TR would be a far-right conservative extremist.
America hasn't had a decent president since the 18th century
The entire idea behind your country is still dumb btw
>>80311667
>anti-capitalist
>extremely socially liberal
>far-right
>conservative
Yeah, no.
>>80302765
funny I have been thinking about this all day..
since yesterday actually and the shit started
the idiot fucking instigated a riot in his sigh own country he is the leader off.... I mean wtf..
"Only all lyfus matter when nogs do"
Piece of shit... I can't believe that back in 08 I had hopes for him. Though... that price was embarrassing as having this fucking wrong flag garglggregsrlgslkrgs
>>80311915
>anti-capitalist
What? TR was literally pro eugenics.
>>80312109
TR was big government and anti-capitalist. Literally put the hands of government on the invisible hand. Fucked up oil so bad we still measure oil by the barrel despite shipping them in containers.
>>80312109
He forcefully broke up a bunch of companies for no other reason than MUH FEELS. Fuck off.
>>80302765
DELET THIS
>>80311337
A fucking men...
>Be nigger president
>Get nobel peace price cuz nigger
>Haven't even started
>Makes the world into a nightmare
yay
Seriously I know you are browsing, Fuck You Jagland! These idiots are not objective, it's former politicians now!!! no experts or shit
>>80312438
>>80312452
He broke up some trusts, yes. That doesn't make him "anti-capitalist."
>muh big government
By today's standards, TR's government was incredibly small. FDR deserves way more blame.
>>80303619
Reagan was one of the best presidents we ever had. I listened to his Secretary of State speak on Gavin's podcast and she made some very strong points. No matter what Reagan stuck to the promises he made while campaigning and though Reganonmics didnt work under Bush they work very well. His presidency literally caused economic prosperity.
>>80304913
honestly saying he will start WW3 is itself fucking retarded
the guy has said over and over he doesn't like war.
the only reason we would fight ISIS is because we are pretty much already at war with them
>>80304937
>(War of Northern Aggression)
>Not the War of Southern Betrayal
>Reagan
>best president
People are stupid. Reagan's policies are identical to Bush's policies. Reagan is why America is in the trouble it is today.
>>80312716
>destroy free market capitalism, not just trust busting, for no reason other than MUH FEELS
>not anti-capitalist
Uwot.
> TR's government was incredibly small. FDR deserves way more blame
>literally whataboutism
Just because he got the ball rolling and became a precedent doesn't make him unresponsible for what happened.
>>80312716
Alright let me rephrase. He's anti-free market. Best positive for him is he's nationalistic and would have kicked all te Mexicans out.
You all do realize this nigger is going to first to make a billion dollars on speaking circuit when he finishes his 8 year paid golf vacation and everything he did wrong will be "da White man beez racist n' sheet."
Also, his unemployment numbers are a joke bc they no longer count people who have quit looking. also, 25% of 26-34 year olds live with their parents.
Good job, jig--a-boo....
so obama, hillary, and trump are all holding records for most hated in history
maybe we should do without a president
#giantmeteor2016
>>80311337
Was there anyone retarded enough other than the Nobel committee to think Obongo deserved anything? He accomplished absolutely nothing with his life before becoming president. Even as president, he hasn't done much good.
>>80302765
>President Obama's job approval rating, inching up since a negative 38 - 57 percent in December, 2013, his all-time low, is stalled at a negative 40 - 53 percent
Wait, but I thought King Hussein had marginally positive approval ratings right now.
Is there hope for America after all?
>>80313429
>Was there anyone retarded enough other than the Nobel committee to think Obongo deserved anything?
No, that's the sad part. They just gave it to him on speculation
>>80306026
What IS the best form of government? Democracy is way too easily corrupted by the low-intelligence voter, and too easily hijacked by self-interested bureaucrats.
>>80313429
The biggest irony of the Nobel Peace Prize is that he's been involved in more police actions and extraterritorial executions than any other in history.
All the fucking stupid White people--mostly females-- who voted for this nigger bc they thought it would calm down the niggers, and it's only made them 100x worse as he urges them on.
Although the choices both times? MCCain (dupe of Israel) and Mittens (BITLEAGUE dupe of the Jews).
IF obongo did anything good, it's that he realizes how much the jews actually despise him and has done all he can to fuck over the JEws without hurting his post-golf vacation chance to make a billion dollars.
Will wake you another bet-- they will add Obongo's skinny, grape head to Mount Rushmore to try to calm down the niggers. I'm not kidding, BTW.
>>80313685
Executive monarchy without full suffrage.
>>80310723
Fine, keep breeding.
>>80313683
Europeans were circlejerking over him. That's how anti-white they are. They still are masturbating over him.
>>80302765
>Reagan
>best president since WWII
>>80313707
He never did get the white majority vote, male or female
>>80302975
>won
Like that was a good thing.
>>80313981
He got enough to add to the non-white vote so that he can win. 40% of white America is retarded.
>>80313981
>white majority vote, male or female
as I recall he did get White female vote, although they play a cute little game now where Mestizo is "White" so who knows.
>>80313797
Could you explain the nuances of this form of government and why you believe it's the best?
Cognitive dissonance dictates that this doesn't matter
On election day people's memories extend backwards about 1 week
>>80302975
>But America won WW2. Why wouldn't they like that president?
because most of american /pol/ would rather live in a oppressive regime where they could be execute for not being white with blond hair and blue eyes.
>>80302765
>>80313134
>>80312452
>>80312438
Frankly I don't give two shits if a president is "anti-capitalist" when those capitalists tend to be globalist traitors.
>>80313062
>succession is betrayal
Then the country was founded on betrayal
Not even a southerner
>>80302975
Muh 2 immoral nukes for Japan
>>80313863
Reagan one of the worst presidents because he allowed neoconservatism to dominate the Republican party.
>>80310550
Im so glad the north won the war so they could bring in more black immigrants and allow them to breed in bulk and turn the entire country into haiti 2.0
>>80304390
They were 2 of the best Presidents America ever had.
>>80314386
Well, TR was great for his nationalism. Can't argue with that. He just enacted dumbass shit that pointlessly held back American entrepreneurship for the feelings of fairness.
>>80304115
>>80304446
Don't you know? "Facts" were created by "liberals" and "Jews" to destroy the white race. I learned that right here on /pol/.
>>80306121
>b-but Wilson was racist and hated blacks
He really is probably one of the worst we've had. A huge fucking hypocrite too.
>>80314271
>Absolute monarch who is raised and educated from birth for their position
>Chancellor who is handpicked by the monarch, wields absolute power second only to the monarch
>Legislative house under the chancellor, parties gain seats by democratic vote
>suffrage limited. Only tax paying are guaranteed a vote. Property owners have a vote weighted in their favor. Others can gain the right to vote through education or service.
Basically, the people can exercise their will through the legislative house. The chancellor then decides, from their tenure in government, if they think it is a good idea or not. Ultimately, the monarch has the final say of what is good for their country and citizens. It makes far more sense to put someone who has been raised, groomed and educated from birth to hold such a position for life instead of some community organizer from bum fuck illinois for four years at a time. The idea behind limited suffrage is that only the people who know or have skin in the game can exercise their choice which will potentially effect the entire nation. The whole liberal movement that came out of the French Revolution is by far the worst thing that has happened to the west desu. Nearly everything bad about government you see today is a direct result of it.
>>80313320
And here comes the "I'm above it all, let the world be destroyed" faggot
>>80314776
It wasn't pointless. The idea behind trust busting was to increase competition and decrease monopolies.
Square Deal was for people like YOU. You know shit like worker's comp, 8 HR work days, safe working conditions, veterans getting compensation for when they grow old, pure food and drug and biologics control act
>>80302765
hes not the worst.
bush is 10x worse than him.
bush has 10 less IQ points AND he has autism.
>>80311337
My honest opinion on the guy based on this?
Obama is a self-absorbed narcissist and thinks nothing is ever his fault, that anyone who opposes him is ungrateful. That mindset is consistent every time he opens his mouth.
I think he let the presidency go to his head once he got the Nobel Prize for being the first black president of the United States of America. This was after the media pretty much anointed him as the hero that would save America and the world.
>>80315284
both were establishment puppets and Obama continued Bush policies and then increased federal debt to 20 T even after printing 4T. The true unemployment rate is around 10% if you include discouraged workers but if you account for the 4T printed and what it should have been its closer to 15 to 20
>>80315284
seriously do et!!!!
>>80310737
Hamilton, Monroe, Van beuren, and Nixon (Woodrow Wilson being the exception) were our most politically intelligent, which is why their political legacies are some of the strongest.
All right wing by today's standards
All in favor of highly limited govt.
All acknowledging family enterprise as the source of our true national wealth
>people are just indoctrinated into thinking socialism is good for the people, but hey
they need the handicap, and they need to blame the successful for the fact that they wont work and improve their lives, and enable corny capitalism to corrupt our legislature
Is it a hate crime if your dog poops on a niggers lawn?
>>80315624
>The true unemployment rate is around 10% if you include discouraged workers but if you account for the 4T printed and what it should have been its closer to 15 to 20
Approximately 25% of people ages 25 to 54 are not working. If you alter the ages to 16-62 that number rises to 35%. There are less people working, percentage wise, than since before women entered the work force enmasse. There are roughly the same percentage of people working today than during the fucking Carter years.
>>80315907
source on this info?
>>80312452
Oh I forgot to comment to this about companies. Do you like it when labor unions go on strike and fuck shit up for the common man? Like Air Traffic Control strikes cancelling a ton of flights?
Well when the coal miners went on strike and people like you were gonna go the winter without heat, he wanted to tell them to fuck off or I'll have the US Army do it you lazy fucks
>>80315180
Nah, look at Standard Oil and see how retarded he was for punishing a company for being successful for revolutionizing the trade.
>>80307939
Its easy to be popular if you die in office right after you set up ambitious policies, and are not around when negative consequences happen. If Kennedy won a second term or was still around during the Apollo 1 fire do you think his call for a moonshot wouldn't have tarnished his reputation?
>>80316131
>Ages 16-62
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
>Ages 25-54
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300060
Also I was wrong because I ballparked. It's closer to 40 and 20% respectively. A minimum of 1 in 5 of your fellow Americans of working age are not working in any capacity.
>>80316334
Do you like it when your constitutional rights are stripped from under you by a big government faggot? Cuck.
>>80316503
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
ehhhh but the labor force participation rate doesnt account for all the trophy whores who drop out of the workforce and do single income household husbands with their husband, or people on pensions.
there are many factors to take in besides this and shitting it out your mouth weakens the entire narrative of /pol/ discouraged workers, part time workers stuck in shitty jobs who want upwards mobility, illegals diluting the work pool, people going back to college, even people who win lotteries and drop out of work. These are all things to consider. Obama is a terrible president no doubt, but you can't use the labor participation rate as the litmus test.
>>80316894
Do you seriously think that half of those not in the labor force are housewives, rich, or disabled? Are you seriously that dense?
>discouraged workers, part time workers stuck in shitty jobs who want upwards mobility
Are included as working in LFPRT.
>illegals diluting the work pool, people going back to college, even people who win lotteries and drop out of work. These are all things to consider
Fucking 20% of Americans are not lotto winners or people going back to college.
>>80314901
>>80306121
Woodrow Wilson's ideals about legislation for the needs of societal economic security, was LBJ's inspiration for the great society. He was all about govt. regulation of business, stimulus for public works, and to ensure social security of some income, he brought us out of our isolationist posture internationally
>all of these I consider to be a bad trend for our country, but that's the type of president he was elected to be, a progressive
Rather than be cautious of how the productive value of our economy tolerates stimulus, he created the skeleton of the welfare state in the New Deal.
He understood political science well, but his political and economic philosophy was something he would not abandon, and we have less economic freedom as a result.
When the market reversal comes and our debts are called in maybe we can pivot away for oversize govt agencies, and oversight that's more reckless than the industries themselves.
I would consider him the most damaging because of the legacy he left
>>80316414
Which part am I looking at here?
>>80317444
The part where Rockefellar made shitloads of money because he was able to sell his oil cheaply because he shipped his oil in tankers, which cut costs for all involved.
Roosevelt thought he cheated and used the government to "break up the monopoly" while the average person benefitted from the "cheating" and then the average person suffered as costs went up.
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>>80313685
> Democracy is way too easily corrupted by the low-intelligence voter
No.
If someone is an intellectual and above the imbecile then he should have no problem coercing the idiot masses to vote in the right way.
>>80315284
under Bush all we had to worry about was the economy. under Obama we're worrying about race relations, gun grabbers, ISIS, the economy, a potential Democrat supermajority, etc.
still think Bush was worse?
>>80303440
Buchanan at least inherited the issues that lead to the Civil War and then failed to come up with a solution. Obama made his own messes.
>>80316894
>even people who win lotteries and drop out of work.
did you really just unironically suggest that "people who win the lotto and drop out of work" have an impact an labor statistics?
I'd think you have to be be shit posting bc no one is that fucking stupid, but you sure as shit seems serious. No wonder people here hate Americans.
God I wish we could get all the spics to leave or use mexican flags at least.
>>80317776
So the rich got richer and the poorer got poorer. It was a good try. Got it
>>80318633
No, Rocky got money and the poor got more affordable oil to heat their houses. It's not black and white, winner and loser.
People paid money to get that product in a voluntary exchange that TR thought was unfair because he's economically illiterate but stick his fat nose in it anyway.
>>80319040
Well do you like monopolies? Rockfella sold the cheap shit because he undercut and bought out everyone else. I thought anti-trust laws were good.
But in the end, Rockfella and his cohorts got richer and because of the trust busting it cost more for the layman so, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer, no?
Besides Standard Oil is doing just fine despite it all. They're just called Exxon and Chevron now
>>80319553
>undercut
You don't understand, he literally invented a new way to transport oil more efficiently. It wasn't a monopoly, it was advancement.
>>80314407
Attacking peaceful soldiers at Fort Sumter is betrayal. Southerners have no honor. Absolute scum. Literally attacked a peaceful military outpost without warning. Throughout the Civil War the Southern army proved to be a barbarian horde with no honor and no moral values.
>>80319823
Yeah but he also made secret deals to get discounts which is why the price got so low in the first place.
It's alright nigga. I don't get it
But I still think Theodore Roosevelt was the best
>>80303619
he literally tore down economic restrictions and regulations to create the biggest economic boom the USA had ever seen
fuck off with this regan was shit meme
>>80302765
Funny how more people hate Obama than Bush, yet Bush was continuously ridiculed and bashed in the media, while Obama is still treated with respect.
>>80320521
It wasn't secret deals, he was able to negotiate lower fees for transportation because he was able to lower the impact of transportation.
But it's alright, suck his big stick. He's a badass guy, I just disagree with his progressive politics.
>>80320887
>economic boom
>two recessions in his term
>the two largest tax increases in American history
>banks and financial institutions collapsed
>widespread poverty and economic disaster
It's funny when underaged kids who don't remember the hell of the Reagan years try to pretend they know what happened.
>>80304093
>>80304390
>>80306653
>>80307434
>>80313085
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>>80314603
>Nu-/pol/ spouts dumb shit they learned from leftist "education" and storm-rejects
ISHYGDDY
>>80320887
>to create the biggest economic boom the USA had ever seen
and created the four largest economic crises of post-war era
>>80309910
>says he liked being fooled by a chimpanzee reading off a scrolling script
>defends it by saying communicating a message is important in a government's executive, EVEN IF HIS HAND'S BEING HELD LOL
>gets mad when this contradiction is pointed out by someone
>calls that person a grammar nazi for communicating it to them
>see step 1????????????
