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How do we deal with the atheist problem?
>>80301989
Like Hitler did. Imprison and gas them.
>>80301989
Just wait for them to grow up
>>80301989
Put them in carts and smash carts to the wall.
>>80301989
atheist here. Irrationalists can't speak in the name of reason. Freedom and equality are mutually exclusive.
>>80302266
/thread
Humans must secretly produce a billion self-replicating murder droids and give them hard AI.
This is the solution to all human problems.
>tfw atheist
>everyone automatically think of a fat beta underage kid with a sexual fetish of fedoras and ponies or a pro-LGBTQ+ movement
>>80303008
>implying
>>80301989
>grown man with sky daddy fantasies
lmao
Do you also believe in santa?
>>80302199
This. WE cannot tolerate atheists in our group. Christians only. Buddhists get a pass, if they are asian or indian in origin only.
>>80303211
>dubs of truth
>>80301989
You can't do anything. You're not good at solving problems.
>>80302199
/thread
>>80301989
Ignore the modern atheist movement.
Atheism is about skeptical inquiry. We have nothing to do with lgbtqp rights and we gain NOTHING from supporting them.
It's cool when likeminded individuals get together and say
>hey atheism and even secularism is cool! Get into philosophy and science!
Not
>okay guys this is a safe space, not a public forum, we are pro-lgbtqp.
Why? You should never blindly accept anything. The nu-atheist movement is a mockery of atheism and diametrically opposed to what actual atheism is about.
>>80304092
>skeptical
Nice meme, bruh.
>>80301989
Ignore them. The obnoxious ones just want your attention.
>>80303319
How do you enforce that though? After you prove that you're not bluffing and execute the first few of them, the rest will start saying they're Christian to save themselves.
Also, isn't it kinda Muslim behavior to execute non-believers instead of just letting them be? Is this kind of shit what Jesus intended?
>>80302199
FPBP + dubget
just sit back and wait. theres a reason atheism never survived. they dont reproduce. they will go extinct by themselves.
>>80304092
explain "actual atheism" pls
>>80304516
Easy.
>"I think homosexuals should have rights!"
>executed
>>80301989
>fucking reddit pride parade
>>80302199
they have willfully rejected their immortal souls
they are already dead
>>80301989
It deals with itself. They don't have children.
>>80303008
It really feels like they resorted to making us into a huge strawman, perhaps it has some degree of truth because the degenerates tend to distance themselves from religion too, so atheism gets stained by association, but it's still damn unfair.
>>80305080
>implying there's a difference
>>80301989
I am an atheist, and a pony lover. Tell me how I am the problem, with details.
>>80305200
>implying atheism isn't a stain
>>80304916
Someone who doesn't believe any god exists, that's an atheist.
We're not some faggots proo lgbqtfs+ who like ponies and do parades about faggot rights or support feminism or these shits, we just don't believe in any god and therefore we don't follow any "divine command".
I'm a right-winger and patriotic atheist, and hate all that kind of shit I mentioned.
>>80305264
pony lover
>>80302266
SPBP
>>80304947
But again, once you start killing people that think homos should have rights, people are going to start lying to save their lives. Then you're just going to end up with the same shit as the Red Scare in the 50's or Witch Trials before that. Mass accusations just because one party doesn't like the other (if you think false rape accusations are bad just wait), paranoia, neighbors spying on each other, and kangaroo court tribunals.
It won't end well. The best you could do is track down all the people who make offending social media posts and execute them. Of course, you'd be killing a huge number of the youth and we'd end up like Japan.
>>80301989
We slay them
>(with the faith of Christ)
>>80305370
>right-wing and patriotic
>athiest
Kill bad atheists (pro Islam)
Keep good atheists ( anti Islam)
>give an atheist evidence of god(s) existing
>"ur delusional kid"
Where the fuck are my warlocks at?
>>80301989
You give them bats so they can beat some sense to religion fags
Can an atheist explain to me why they don't commit suicide if they are suffering in their life? Suicide can be painless now, and what's the point of dealing with any suffering at all if you can just get out of it Scott free.
>>80305530
>report people suspected of faggotry/atheism (same thing) and they get executed
>no one wants to be a faggot atheist
I don't see an issue here.
>>80305700
>good
>atheist
Pick one Pablo.
>>80301989
>How do we deal with the atheist problem?
Grow a thicker skin you baby faggot.
>>80305412
very pony lover
>>80305903
Eternal darkness and nothingness can wait, I want to see how the world turns out in the next 60 years.
>>80305700
no true atheist is pro islam. only sjw cucks
>>80305634
Are you just baiting, or actually braindead?
They're a self-solving problem. They lead the way in abortions, low birth rates, short lifespans, and suicides.
>>80301989
Give me evidence and i will believe in your fairytales. Fucking freaks.
>>80305634
>not believing in ancient memes means you can't be right-wing
>>80306163
Pretty sure everyone on this site are baiting
>>80304916
Too wide of a term. It's basically lack of belief in a deity, but it doesn't have any structure, set of principles, ideology, organization or anything.
Saying that atheism supports x or y it's just retarded, there's no "atheist doctrine" whatsoever.
>>80305903
>My life is shit, I better kill myself, the heaven realm is awaiting me in the afterlife.
>My life is shit, I better kill myself, there's nothing to fear anyways.
Literally the same shit.
>>80305530
>forcing fags to go underground doesn't solve the problem
Nothing short of a rapture will kill ALL fags, however making that kind of speech unacceptable will certainly help the faggot/atheist problem.
>>80305903
because I'm not a pussy.
also any sensory experience, no matter how awful, is superior to no sensory experience by default.
>>80306104
>>80305903
They're basically all "meh" about their lives
>>80305903
Humans don't generally commit suicide unless they are severely mentally unstable. The basic instinct is to survive.
How is this not obvious to you? Also, are you implying theists don't suffer?
>>80305634
I am with the right, and I am patriotic. Looking forwards to joining the military.
>>80305200
>they're all filthy degenerates
>BUT NOT ME!!
Can you Christians at least prove how your religion is the right one? Try not to use the bible.
>>80306316
What if said religion, like mine thinks there is a hell.
Atheism is the definition of red pill. Christianity or any religion is the desire to be cucked. You willingly deny all evidence against a god just so you can become a sex slave of your god. You long for being dominated by a god. Furthermore, Christianity is a huge cuck religion in itself. Turn the cheek so you can suck his dick.
>>80301989
>Humanist
so they're pushing their substitute "religion" at the very same time
Havent you guys old enough to stop believing fairy tales?
Classic /pol
>>80306713
>hell
The boogie man adults started believing. Stupid fuckers.
>>80306794
>evidence against a god
?
What ""evidence"" do fedoras have besides for
>he didn't come when I sperged out at the family reunion therefore he doesnt exist and fuck you kevin quit linking my deviantart
>>80306837
The roach actually speaks truth.
>>80305755
>give an atheist evidence of god(s) existing
You have that?
>>80305903
>Can an atheist explain to me why they don't commit suicide if they are suffering in their life?
If I had to guess I'd say it's a combination of fear and the primal self-preservative instinct.
>>80306346
>making that kind of speech unacceptable will certainly help
And you don't seen anything inherently un-American about limiting freedom of speech, especially based on religion?
>>80305906
But a bunch of innocent nonfaggots and atheists are going to be executed in the process, and you're going to end up with a totalitarian shitheap of a government.
I also have to protest how anti-Christian straight up executing people for dumb shit like this is.
>>80306794
What if being red pill means that you declare your ignorance about the universe and realize you can't prove that there is a God or disprove that there is a God
>>80306794
>atheism
>redpilled
So is this whole believing in Jesus a meme or is /pol/ pulling my leg?
Don't tell me you guys actually believe a book of fairy tales?
wew lad, considering the fact that you christ-cucks hate islam so much, you sure act a lot like them.
>>80307185
But how do you know that you cannot know God exists?
>>80307134
>forgetting about the Inquisition and the crusades
KYS
>>80307134
Just pop on over to /x/ and learn how to conjure, then you can literally ask a demon.
>making some speech unacceptable is un-american
Atheists aren't a religion, remember?
They're not speaking about religion when they're talking about needing a lack thereof.
>>80301989
We wait a few more decades until the last retards have grown out of believing in sky daddys and the problem isnt a problem anymore.
It will happen that way 100%.
>grown ups believing in boogeymans think the ones not believing should be dealt with
k den
>>80307185
then for a lack of a better proof you should not believe in the ness monster
>>80303280
Ow shit it hurts. Can you please keep your zyka razor blade away from me spic, the edge is too much. Grow up Brazil, real men believe in God.
>>80307134
I see your "self preservation instinct point" but what "fear". If YOU KNOW there is no god why would you have fear about suicide.
I wonder if this will trigger the christfags on here. If you're gonna shove your religion down other people's throats at least have some evidence backing up your silly superstitious beliefs
>>80307320
>believing literal jewish fairy tales
I feel sorry for you too, anon.
Can someone give one reason why being atheist is a bad thing.
I am not a ponyfag, i hate fags much as the church does, and i never shitted on christianity or god.
>They don't believe in our magical skyman!
>KILL THEM
Fuck off mudslimes.
I bet none of the people in OP's pic is a real atheist, I bet they believe in the horoscope, ghosts and other supernatural crap.
I bet none has a career in STEM
Not being Christian does not make you an atheist.
>>80307505
I don't know, do you?
>>80304947
Remove my flag from your fucking post goatfucker.
>>80307814
You know deep down that its true, don't deny it.
>>80307697
>asking for [scientific] evidence for a faith-based religion
>>80307786
>jewish
>>80307792
>I'm an atheist but have never shitted on god
Choose in the singular fashion
>>80307049
a stone has no unused potential in knowledge since it can't process knowledge. It is omniscient
>>80305634
Mussolini THE FATHER OF FACISM AND NATIONALISM was a fucking atheist you braindead evangelist cuck
>>80308021
groupthink
>>80307915
Maybe
>>80302199
fpbp
>>80308028
Well, there are a lot of Christians out there that like to think that their religion is a fact.
>>80307792
>atheist
>"inb4 ponyfag"
>>80303008
We think you are self-absorbed, sanctimonious, trolls bent on irritating everyone.
>>80308054
But what is knowledge. Are you implying we humans have knowledge? Why are we different from the stone.
>>80308051
Okay, let's say for a moment they aren't jewish.
They're still fairy tales, you know.
>>80308288
>catholicism
>not fact
Get a load of this heathen.
>>80306621
>>80305361
>they fell for the /pol/ is christian meme
Man, nu-/pol/ and summer are really really gullible. You realize /pol/ hates the jews, right?
>>80307792
In the entire world being an atheist means you are part of the upper class / educated elite of your country.
In the USA is roughly the same as evident with statistics tha proof a correlation between IQ/scientific education and atheism but DANK MEMES DUDE LMAO FEDORA
>>80308028
>We dont need no evidence
>Just believe us because we tell you to
christians sure are special..
>>80305130
That's the theory. In practice religion gets less and less deep.
>>80308454
Christ-chan is cute but that doesn't mean I'll become a christian :3.
>>80308582
anon, repent.
>>80308445
>implications that the new testament isn't jewish fanfiction of the old testament, meant to subvert innocent white children
>implying that the old testament isn't stone cold fact
Shiggin' right in my digs, fampai.
>>80308454
>Idolatry
>Christian
Nice try, Cathy.
>>80307049
Modern science disproves pic completely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation
>>80308051
Turkish nationality started by a Jew called Haim Nahum. Islam is killing Turkic nations.
>>80301989
>Freedom
>Equality
I'd expect the self defined logical thinkers in the atheist movement to understand those two things are incompatible.
>>80308454
>catholicism
>fact
You could, maybe, might, have been able to argue about this issue a bit more if you said orthodoxy, but catholicism? Really?.
What a way to discredit yourself.
>another theist/atheist thread
can't you just take this trash to /b/ please PLEASE
Can a Christian tell me why his religion is the real one and not the Islamist one for example?
>>80308582
Um... what about good old Albert? Or Isaac Newton? They were smarter than Steven Hawking's and black space guy (fight me about it)
>>80308715
>science isn't just observation of god's work
Epic!
>>80308863
Orthodoxy is pretty shit pham.
>>80305903
I'm an Eastern Orthodox freedomburgerman. Here, to live life dispassionately is a great sin (a tall order for fucking eastern europe).
Anyway, why don't you commit suicide? Yes, it's a capital sin, but it's not like that stop us from lies and coveting.
I guess you could theologically argue that you cannot confess the sin in order to receive forgiveness, but that's silly.
>>80308696
Technically speaking my sins are beyond saving, you'd know that if you actually read the bible, but christians never read the bible.
>For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins
Technically speaking 99.99% of christians are beyond saving too but that's inconvenient, almost as incovenient as Jesus failed prophecy of the end times happening during the life time of the apostles, but hey.
>>80301989
By not fucking talking about it
I swear the atheist discussions would all die permanently if conversations would go like this with them
"Hey,do you believe in God our Lord and Savior?
"Nah bro"
"Okay then"
Edgy kike on a stick meme faggots would just be ridiculed for being faggots and everyone would live in relative peace.
"Not religious" right wing master race
Accept the fact no one knows and just live your red pilled life without getting into a debate that cannot yet be reasonably be proven
>>80307049
The fact that it's an obvious cultural creation, as every culture has one. The fact that it's unscientific. The fact that most parts of the bible are directly debunked. The fact that the bible is contradictory. The fact that God has never shown his presence. The fact that God in itself is contradictory.
Also, the burden of proof is on you.
>>80309026
>gypsy
>talking about Christianity
Don't you have a wallet to snatch because of some magic nail?
>>80309014
>Orthodoxy is pretty shit pham.
Elaborate
>>80308978
Lmao the fact that you have to resort to centuries old scientists says a lot, maybe Newton was smarter than Hawkings yet he knew way less about the universe than the laziest student of Hawkings.
>>80301989
The single most convincing argument I've seen and had is that the lack of faith is faith. There is no proof either way and atheists vehemently defend a position with no scientific evidence despite clinging to the thought and belief (faith) that they are correct.
>>80308957
No we can't. At least I can't. I only like to argue that we can't know if there is or isn't a God. I can't defend Catholicism, but I think it's a hell of a lot more fun than believing in a vengeful god who orders people to go out and conquer with violence. Btw I cant defend old testimnt God either.
>>80308084
>this big meenie was atheist therefore all atheist is big meenie )':<
Wow this thread is top notch. You sure are showing these damn meenie atheists by shitting up /pol/ with your garbage slide thread. It's such a great idea to alienate people, the redpill will spread so much faster and you'll have so many allies in overthrowing the Jew.
>>80309317
>apostolic succession
>magic pictures you pray to (ikons)
>>80309166
>not scientific, with no evidence proving that the current state of affairs has always been
>>>>>contradictory
>god has never shown himself to a population who has since stopped looking
Do you have a single source?
>>80301989
According to the suicide rates
They are dealing with themselves
>>80307957
Die kike enabler.
>pic related
Homosexuals are no more than a weapon in the Bolshevik's arsenal, but then again I doubt that bothers you in the slightest.
>>80301989
we tip our cut penis and fedoras to them.
>>80309457
>Says an atheist cannot be a nationalist
>Point out the father of facism was an atheist
>"lol you are embarrasing yourself"
The infamous IQ of the average church goer.
>>80305906
Confirmed for having literally no knowledge of history or politics. Uninstall your browser so you can't shit /pol/ up any further.
Kill them all, God will recognize his own.
>>80301989
>How do we deal with the atheist problem?
Most of /pol/ is atheist/agnostic. Christfags are the minority here and they're getting less and less. It seems that /pol/ is dealing with Christfags much better than Christfags with /pol/.
>>80309530
wow , anon. so cruel driving edgy cunts into suicide every day. we liberals are shocked
>>80309014
>Not being Baptist or at least Protestant
Why don't you take the Bible for its word, Gods word, anon?
Christians, why have you not accepted the flying spaghetti monster into your hearts?
>>80309349
Lmao isn't it more impressive to discover laws of physics than to shit out a debunked black hole theory every other day. Nothing has been proven since the time of Newton that disproves or proves a God. Nothing. Humans are all ignorant including me and you.
Atheist pride? Wtf how can you have pride over not believing in a particular thing? Is there a pride parade for people who don't believe in Santa Claus? Retarded.
>born in '71 in rural Alberta
>no such thing as an atheist in 1000 miles in any direction
>still assumed that god ect was just a bunch of stories adults told to feel better about shitty things
>grew up and realized they seriously believed the stories
>have pretended to be a christian for decades to enrich myself
>have an entire community of people who will call me first for my specific profession
You think you can even catch us? If you follow any religion made up by anybody, you're far too gullible to ever uncover people such as myself, or survive the fallout of trying to do anything about me.
I'd probably placate you within seconds, and you'd feel good about having met me.
And if you don't actually follow any religion, you have no reason to care what I do or don't believe.
>>80309781
For claiming that you're so "science-based" and objective, you fedoras never have any fucking sources to back up what you say
>>80309866
>this triggers the christfag
>>80301989
We convert them to Kek
>>80310021
Spread your cuckery somewhere else, Christfag.
god is a girl
>>80301989
Do people honestly believe that atheist reject religion solely to piss off others? God is not real, why I even post on religion vs atheism argument is because I am befuddled that religion is still a thing. How can anyone be so delusional? How do you get rid of this "problem"? Prove your god.
>>80309913
> Nothing has been proven since the time of Newton that disproves or proves a God
Well a lot of things have been discovered that disprove the notion of a soul, the entire genesis book, etc.Hence why modern scientists are overwhelmingly atheists even in countries were christians are a vast majority like the USA
When gaps of knowledge get filled by scientific discoveries, there is less room for the supernatural because the supernatural is just makeshift primitive explanations for gaps in knowledge
>>80309913
>debunked black hole theory
>>80310319
t.tumblrina
>>80310154
>new
>fucking
>testament
>aka heresy, but atheists don't understand this
LMAO
>>80309781
I don't actually see that.
From what I've gathered, this supposed progression we are having, the atheist movement, the liberal psycho pathic thought process is leaning towards a center of morality and faith. Faith in ones self, faith in a spiritual nature and perfect design and development of the natural order and law of man, the universe and its beginnings and ends.
An existential crisis is happening in the mind and hearts of pol and it won't stop. The day of the rope is coming, we all know. Would you really face that rope with just the cold hard dirt and nothingness, meaninglessness or a possibility of a higher purpose, a calling? I'll take the narrow road and you to the broad road. We will see where it leads.
>>80302266
>if you don't believe in fairytales you are immature
>>80309913
Also how the fuck is the "black hole theory" debunked when they have been observed ? Hawking liteally predicted their existance before we even saw them, that's science for you.
Stop taking their arguments seriously just because they claim their understanding of the world is based on pure science. Understand that most are not as intelligent as they think they are, because if you try to come at your argument from an angle other than "muh scientific process" they will not be able to wrap their heads around it. In fact, they'll ironically enough, try to use a philosophical argument to debunk the usefulness of philosophy, if that's the angle your coming at with your argument.
Also
>"Wahh, I'm oppressed cause I don't believe in God ;-;"
No different than black people who think they are oppressed.
>>80302266
it's 2016, nobody grows up anymore
>>80310449
>I don't actually see that.
Then you're an idiot.
There are approx. 20% (max 30%) of Christfags left.
The handful of Christian General threads left are filled with anti-Christian comments.
>he hasn't realized that the witch trials were against actual witches
>he's fallen for the "magic isn't real" jew meme
I thought atheists were "skeptical"? The proof is all around you, but you continue nigging this board up with your reddit-tier arguments and
>"fuckin fundies!"
Take your own life, since you're statistically more likely to anyway.
>>80310598
>Muh philosophy
I told you I don't want fries with that
>>80310331
Did I ever say I believed in the book of Genesis? Or a "soul" No. I only said we can't prove or disprove that a God exists. Argue me on that point and that point ALONE.
The christfags sure are triggered.
>>80309305
Not at all my shooting challenged friend.
We have had the same religion since before both the usa and protestantism.
Consider the fact that the oldest christian church in what would become romania was build in the 7th century, over the grounds of a heathen roman temple from the 2nd century, pic related.
But I wouldn't expect an american to understand that, 1920 is old for you folk.
As for the gypos, they are 4% of the population, and none of them are nig-noging on the streets, tv and presidency; but again, as a clapistaneze, I wouldn't expect you to understand.
>>80310598
THE WORLD IS EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE. PHILOSOPHY IS A SCIENCE. IF YOU GOD CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY THE MEANS OF SCIENCE IT IN FACT DOES NOT EXIST.
oh look another xtian shill thread
>>80309866
Because there's only one true God anon. And he loves you even though you hate him. :)
>>80301989
Start a twatter campaign to convince Atheists to volunteer to help muslim refugees.
#atheists4islam
In turn the muzzies will rape and murder them.
>>80310895
Not an argument.
>>80310720
If christians just ignore atheists, why did they start this dedicated shitposting thread.
And why did you even reply to us?
>triggered
>>80310909
>Souls are not real
>God did not create anything
>Miracles are impossible and were never documented
So what's God for you? and how do you justify your belief without evidence? I feel you are very close to understanding how silly your line of thought is.
>>80310969
>philosophy is a science
And with that, Theology is too.
:^)
>>80311035
Yeah, you should visit there, bud.
Filled with gnostic proof and ways to get your own.
Or just keep being the tippingest snownigger in your mountain cave.
>>80311051
Proof? And please don't use the bible to prove that your god (Yahweh) exists.
>>80310909
The lack of evidence against something is not evience for that something. Ever heard of the burden of proof? If you cannot prove your god, it does not exist. If you literally cannot prove a magical deity, it is fiction. Everything that exist exist in some form. Metaphysical is a fantasy.
>>80301989
What the fuck am I looking at? Has society just gone insane? Is this generation just filled with inbred, down syndrome retards?
So many questions, so little time.
>>80311234
>gnostic proof
good one m8
>>80310589
Meh, I retract that statement, since it's irrelevant to my future point. I thought he had some ideas about black holes that kept getting debunked, but I'm not here to argue science anymore. I'm only arguing human ignorance now, so you can have that argument.
>>80310809
your own screenshot proves you wrong.
catholic + protestant = 33% christian, an that's only the two main denominations, I would have put myself as "other" and many other christians would too.
>>80310909
>genesis didn't happen
>souls aren't real
Might as well put yourself to the stake now, heathen.
>>80311352
It's all right there, waiting for you to go receive
If you left now, you could get your proof and be welcomed back into the fold in less than an hour or so.
But you won't, because atheists are just contrarians under another name.
>>80311234
Except theology does not use the scientific method. It is pseudoscience just like flood geology.
>>80311321
Huh, I thought I could only prove I think, there fore I am. Does that mean your a mystical diety that doesn't exist? I guess I'm the only thing that exists, and I can prove, using your logic, that you aren't real.(or anything else.)
>>80311394
I think you're referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Hole_War and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox#Hawking_radiation this paragraph.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DIl3Hfh9tY
It's pretty interesting, even when you're watching it as a layman.
>>80311603
>le spooky stories are real, a ghost really is haunting my house
>i swear i can do magic too xD
>>80311619
>implying
>>80308331
I went to Vegas last week and saw Penn and Teller.
>mfw he actually yelled "INTO THE TRASH IT GOES" during a trick.
>>80307528
I remember them. The Inquisition was especially anti-Chrisitan, and the Crusades while more justifiable were also a product of their time. Executing faggots isn't going to be like a crusade no matter how much any of us would like it to be.
>>80307688
> If YOU KNOW there is no god why would you have fear about suicide.
As confident as atheists can be, nobody knows for sure what happens when you die. They could be wrong about God, and even if they aren't, there might still be an afterlife. Very few people aren't afraid of death and I bet a lot of the people who claim not to be are liars.
>>80307541
What is the supposed origin of these demons? Are they Biblical, from some other religion, or just some random magical beings that we call demons for lack of a better term? Also do you actually believe in this shit? If so, can't you like, summon a demon and post it on youtube or something?
>Atheists aren't a religion, remember?
Yeah, but a law that criminalizes atheist sentiment would be justified by saying it's for the good of Christianity. Especially if that law also banned any non-Christian religion.
>>80311394
If you are arguing human ignorance you should know Newton is arguably more ignorant than the most mediocre scientist of the current year.
Sure he was intelligent, Plato was probably one of the most intelligent men in history and he believed shit that would make a Chinese mainlander blush.
>>80311312
Asking proof of a religion whose whole point is faith. Trying tipping just a little harder and you might get somewhere
>>80308522
>he fell for the christianity is jewish meme
Man, nu-/pol/ and summer are really really gullible. You realize /pol/ hates the jews, right?
>>80311933
>i don't need proof i have FAITH
Reminder you're literally cucking your mental capacity by following this logic.
>>80311603
I already said I won't defend Christianity. I'm only arguing that we can't know if God exists or if he doesn't exist. We are all ignorant.
>>80311933
Faith is a scam buzzword, look up the definition of faith and think to yourself "am I being scammed for my money?"
Religious people are as bad as the worst liberals. If you're not an atheist then you're not a human being. /pol/ has gradually become increasingly stupid over the years because intolerance against christian subhumans has subsided.
>>80311519
That's still the minority... and falling.
This poll is more exact.
>>80311754
What are you retarded. A lack of evidence against a claim, is not evidence for that claim. No one would claim there is no god, if no one said there is a god. This is why the opposition does not have to prove a claim. You can't disprove the flying spaghetti monster, that doesn't give me reason to believe there is in fact a flying spaghetti monster.
>>80311881
What is intelligence, and how is it measured. Riddle me that.
>>80304092
Atheism has always worked to pursue a leftist (jewish) agenda.
The difference between the Atheism of today, and the Nihilism of the 19th century, is that back then people would admit that Socialism is designed to fill the void of Religion.
Now, even though most Atheists are leftists, they'll brand you a heretic for pointing at their blatant leftist bias.
And of course it's all a Jewish plot. Because you cannot disprove God or the Supernatural, one can never say with confidence that they do not believe in God.
Then one may look at the patterns of the Universe, and philosophy of God, and a true skeptic will see the truth. Atheism is nothing more than a tool, designed to harness useful idiots. I'm sure there's an atheist reading this, and his blood is boiling. Because they, yes even they, know that his position is illogical.
>>80311933
You're the one saying that Christianity is true and that the bible is somehow the word of god, if it is then please try to prove it.
>>80311933
>Asking proof of a religion whose whole point is faith.
All I need as a proof is to see what happens to countries that have been infected by Christianity. They all turn into feminist cuckfests.
>>80311619
>Philosophy is a science, but theology isn't
>theology doesn't use the scientific method
>theology is a psuedo science, but philosophy isn't
You've lost me, pham.
>>80311834
>he's never been to /x/, the post
All you gotta do is go.
>>80311851
>Why can't I summon a demon and post it to youtube
>implying spirits aren't viewed with the mind's eye and could be seen with a camcorder
>A law that would stop atheist sentiment would be justified because it's good for christianity
It hasn't stopped laws before.
>>80312160
>He's unsure because God doesn't show up and smack his dong in your face while screaming "I AM GOD"
There's still time to abort yourself, anon.
>>80301989
show them KEK
>>80312305
>Atheism has always worked to pursue a leftist (jewish) agenda.
No, atheism is anti-Jewish. Stop inventing bullshit theories.
>not living the agnostic life
If God ever comes back and unleashes hell or atleast pays for the next round at the pub, I'm the first one to build a shrine to worship him.
But until then, I'm waiting.
>>80301989
We laugh at them when the Muslims smash their teeth out with hammers and then burn them alive.
They're all Multicultural Marxists, they all want globalism. They'll get it, and they will realize, too late, their terrible mistake.
>>80308051
>I'm an atheist but have never shitted on god
>Choose in the singular fashion
A good Christian such as yourself should know that nobody's perfect, and that everybody is an asshole sometimes. It's not like all atheists go around talking shit about God and tipping their fedoras every minute of every day.
>>80312084
Nice buzzword there anon. I guess I am a cuck for thinking there might be something beyond what's here. Just because God loves you doesn't mean I do, have fun getting dick pinched by the devil's toothed ass.
>>80301989
You do realise that by being hostile towards atheists you are pushing the conservative ones towards leftism?
>>80312290
" the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment."
The most accurate measurement we have is IQ tests with pure abstract problem solving no linguistic shit.
>>80312238
>173 people believe in the super natural
>vs 130
What are you trying to prove familia?
>>80312258
Doesn't that point work vice a versa? I mean, your claiming that there is no God, and you can't prove it, so doesn't that mean there is a God? ( Note: I used your logic to make that point. I myself say we can't prove either.)
>>80312663
>might be something beyond what's here
What makes you think that?
>>80312546
Apatheist here. Let's just get comfy while the retards argue.
How convenient we guys were just born into the right religion xD what a coincidence lmao
>>80312741
That /pol/ is not a Christian board.
>>80312428
>It hasn't stopped laws before.
I'm not saying it hasn't. I'm saying that, as good Americans, we should carefully examine our reasoning for creating new laws and see if they fall into line with the Constitution. Fuck ups like that have happened in the past, and the best we can do is due diligence to make sure they happen is little as possible in the future.
The religious aren't even human.
>>80312305
I am an atheist because religion is wrong. Your explanations for how things came to be is incorrect, and the fact that people claimed this as fact, gives me enough reason to reject religion. You don't make things up in science, science has a process. Science is correct. The only reason people claim genesis is a metaphor is because there is scientific evidence that contradicts it. Your lack of evidence is enough for me to reject religion. People claiming you cannot prove it exist, is enough reason. If it does not exist in any form, if it is not made of any matter or mass, it does not exist.
Religion is the source of the leftist bullshit that /pol/ hates. If it weren't for christianity, feminism wouldn't fucking exist --- the stupidity of assigning social roles based on "divine order" is what made it easy to rail against social norms through cultural marxism. If the norms were presented, instead, as consistent with nature and not as some sort of bullshit based on the made up decrees of a man in the sky, they would have been much harder to refute and we would not be in this position.
>>80312615
>everyone is an asshole sometimes and no one's perfect
But that's why we HAVE perfect, anon, and why we do our damnedest to get as close to perfect as we can.
These atheist heathens are trying their hardest to deny christ and be objectively wrong, and we hate them because they're not just wrong, they have malicious intent to be wrong and then tell us that WE'RE the wrong ones.
>>80312858
Pretend you're late for work, and that your occupation is to become a corpse, please.
>>80312858
2/2 and that 55% are atheists.
I am effectively an atheist myself...but we need to gas the atheists.
>>80312305
>Atheism has always worked to pursue a leftist (jewish) agenda.
This is bollocks, christianity is neo-marxism, historically darwinism and nihilism have been right wing, I don't give a fuck you think atheism is left wing because of some obese american fucks in a subreddit.
>>80313022
You can make mustard gas with bleach and ammonia in your own home!
>>80312973
Enjoy your last months at /pol/ before you become a complete laughingstock here.
>>80313127
That makes chlorine gas actually.
>>80312969
>Religion is the source of the leftist bullshit that /pol/ hates. If it weren't for christianity, feminism wouldn't fucking exist
This. Christians are a big source of the cunt veneration that exists in the West.
I am really glad that the majority of /pol/ is not Christian anymore.
>>80313198
Enjoy your eternity in hell for the most avoidable of sins, fag.
>>80312715
So if someone has a higher iq score than me and they say that the sky isn't blue, then they are correct? But then what if someone more intelligent comes along and says that there is no sky. Are they more correct than both of us? And don't say that iq score isn't perfect, because if you say that you show human ignorance, and show that we can't measure intelligence, because none of us are infinitely intelligent.
>>80301989
Awww, did your widdle world views get challenged and now you're questioning the existence of your fairy tale?
>>80313355
>enjoy your imaginary fire
>>80313355
>Enjoy your eternity in hell for the most avoidable of sins, fag.
Push your kike propaganda somewhere else.
>>80312767
No, that's not how the burden of proof works. The only reason anyone is saying there isn't a god, is because there are people that insist there is. That is why the opposition does not need to prove anything. The lack of evidence against something (God), is not reason to believe in that something (God). It does not work this way: the lack of evidence against something (There is no god), is not reason to believe in that something(there is no god), it does not work this way because the only reason that claim exist is because there were people that said the former. There would be no one saying there is no god, if no one said there was.
>defending theism in any way shape or form
move to the fucking middle east if you cherish irrational beliefs so much. is this whole board nothing but angry cry baby pure aryan white christians?
>>80313095
>you think atheism is left wing because of some obese american fucks in a subreddit.
>>80312791
What makes you believe in all of the scientific things that aren't visible. I mean some random guy says things are there so I guess so right? They wrote a paper about it how it's true and how it works. Organizations asking money to fund discussion about these invisible thinga. Wait a sec am I talking about Christianity or Atheism.
Your belief system is just as faith based as mine anon get off your intellectual high horse and repent faggot.
>post how Catholicism isn't a jewish religion
>get reminded that atheists can't read
>>80313355
>my religion is correct
>>80313507
>So if someone has a higher iq score than me and they say that the sky isn't blue, then they are correct?
Where the fuck did you get that idea? that's not how the scientific method works at all, appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, your example describes religious behavior more accurately.
>And don't say that iq score isn't perfect, because if you say that you show human ignorance, and show that we can't measure intelligence, because none of us are infinitely intelligent.
What? are you high? is english your 5rd language?
>>80313127
PLEASE DO!
>>80301989
blacks hate atheists as much as they hate gays. let that sink in
>>80313355
Threatening agnostics/atheists with "u gon burn in hell" is like threatening a grown ass adult that Santa won't come to his house if hes not a good boy.
>>80312973
>objectively wrong,
You can't prove that until you prove Christianity is based on more than faith.
>we hate them because they're not just wrong, they have malicious intent to be wrong and then tell us that WE'RE the wrong ones.
But isn't the whole point of following Christ that you're not supposed to hate anybody, but love and understand your enemies and neighbors despite their sins? And if you want to talk about malicious intent and wrongdoing, you're talking about how you intend to execute thousands of people for disagreeing with you.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone bro.
WHAT?!?!?! YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GAWD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
HOW DARE YOU NOT BELIEVE IN GAWD YOU DEVIL-WORSHIPPING, FILTHY NON-BELIEVER!!!!! I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL WITH SATAN YOU FUCKING HEATHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical fundie.
>>80313525
Somebody sounds like a cuck
>>80313625
Then how on earth did the first person ever come up with the idea of a God, if belief in God relies on someone previously believing in God.
>>80313702
You can measure many things you cant see with so many methods.
The difference in these believes is when science people doubt a thing they can check for themself and come to an objective conclusion
>>80313924
Nice false flagging
>>80313702
You don't make things up in science. If you are going to publish a new discovery, you need evidence for that claim. This is why science is credible, if I were to publish something, without reasonable evidence, my name would be a laughingstock in the community, why do you think scientist do not take Creationism seriously?
Secular countries like burgerland dont seem to realize that in civilized countries there is no "atheist" thing going on. People just naturally don't believe in that stuff due to education and thus they only belong in church or whatever for the community or traditions.
That's also why its so mind boggling to watch when people in America talk about atheism as some sort of cult or way of life and there is an actual animosity between these groups. How is that even fucking possible in 2016?
Just amazes me desu.
>>80313702
All scientific things are measurable. That distinguishes science from faith; the former is verifiable, whereas the latter isn't.
>>80313741
>Worship kike-on-stick
>Isn't jewish
>>80308649
Lmfao. Christianity isnt fideism. Maybe when you embrace God youll win a world war. Cuz we're 2-0.
>>80313324
Explain please?
>>80313822
I'd rather hang out with a bunch of obnoxious fedora tipping atheists than a bunch of staunchly Christian niggers.
>>80301989
nice b8 m8
>>80313780
First of all 5rd ain't right. It's 5th. Don't personally attack me when you show your own ignorance. I'll type a more elaborate response in a sec.
>>80307688
Fear of the Unknown, we may not believe in a god or afterlife but until we know everything, there will always be a part of us that asks "what if?". And animals have evolved to fear death as an animal that doesn't fear death tends to die pretty quickly
>>80301989
Eugenics basically abort autistics you will see a drop in atheism.
>>80313702
>all of the scientific things that aren't visible.
Just because you cannot see some things directly, such as electromagnetism, doesn't mean you cannot study its actual effects.
Can you even give an example of science that you think is dealing with "invisible things"?
>>80314217
At least my posts are coherent despite being from fucking argentina.
>>80313978
>what are hallucinations
>what is imagination
Like everything creative; epic poetry, fantasy novels, bedtime stories, on and on..
>>80314294
>Religion is the norm
>Abnormal person is born
>Doesn't have normal worldview
Hmm.
>>80313780
OK I have my real response. You still haven't stated a surefire way to measure intelligence. Defining and measuring are not the same thing. I can say "a tree is a plant with leaves and bark" but that doesn't mean I know the tree is 10 feet tall.
>>80313978
Because of superstition and ignorance. Why did religions form from civilizations? It kept people in order, and they shared a common belief. If we lived in a world where immediately we had access to scientific explanations, there wouldn't be any creation myth. You wouldn't be able to tell someone, that god created the world in 6 days, if we already knew how the world was created. We know now, and creationist are still blabbing this nonsense because they are delusional and coerced to believe in God. It's not a matter of being ill-prepared, in other words," I can't prove he doesn't exist yet," because the explanations of what their god has done has already been proven wrong. God is a product of ignorance explaining what was once the unknown.
>>80305903
Can a Christian explain to me why they don't commit suicide if they are suffering in their life? Suicide can be painless now, and what's the point of dealing with any suffering at all if you can just get out of it Scott free.
>>80314267
Thank you. We agree that we have ignorance in our lives. Now I can't sustain 3 arguments at once so you win. At least your fairly logical and don't personally attack me. Good day.
>>80301989
Better STEM education so they realize calling something spaghetti isn't a scientific disproof.
>>80314294
A child isn't religious by nature. It is the surroundings which shape the child into religion (usually parents). Religion is unnatural.
On that note how about raising your children without brainwashing them with religion when they are at an age where they're unable to make their own judgement? Let them make their own decisions when they grow up.
>>80314772
How is this relevant at all?
>>80314294
But you aren't born believing something. You are compelled. Many Christians are christian because their parents raised them to be. I was once Christian until I began learning science. I was only 12 when I could identify that religion was wrong, because science is right.
>>80315122
What are you even talking about?
>>80303319
I can't be Buddhist and white? Really?
Christianity is from goatfuckers in the middle east 2k years ago. lmfao /pol/ youre cucked by the people you hate. prove me wrong
>>80314504
But didn't the guy literally say no one believes in religion on their own? I know you didn't type his argument, but read his a little closer.
While you're all here masturbating eachother, mind if I ask you atheists which particular event brought you here from redditumblr?
Was it when le 4chin apparently rigged the dislikes on jewtube's proudtobefaggy campaign?
Was it sam hyde?
>>80315228
He thinks better scientific education will make people disregard burden of proof? I'm guessing his frontal lobe has sustained damage from alcohol and pot abuse.
>>80314831
Read my post to the Russian guy. I know you never said that no one can develope religion on their own, but the guy I'm arguing with did.
tfw
>im atheist
>im conservative
This is demonstrably false.
Despite how many black gays there are. I've never heard of atheists being killed in places such as Jamaica and Africa
>>80312454
Kek is monitoring this thread.
>>80315031
For some insight: https://www.reddit.com/r/SanctionedSuicide/comments/3kyli4/will_it_be_possible_to_eventually_overcome_the/ (inb4 leddit)
One has to be far gone before they can actually overcome the final instinct to not commit suicide. It's why it usually comes unexpected; the person mentally drifted away ages before committing suicide, not showing any signs.
The people who are yelling "I'M SO FUCKING DEPRESSED" or "I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF I SWEAR" aren't the ones who are serious about it.
>>80315412
How new are you? 2013 ? 2014?
>>80315166
You claimed that due to our intelligence we can determine that there is no God. Now be a man and back up your point that humans arent ignorant.
>>80315412
I actually come on /pol/ to laugh at some stuff. You fundies on /pol/ are giving me what I want. :).
Atheists are dealing with themselves. Every year they decline as a percentage of the global population, as atheists and more atheistic nations simply do not breed.
>>80315412
You're the one that is in the minority, Christnigger.
>mind if I ask you atheists
If anything then we ask you.
>>80302695
Yes, but no. You got
>secretly
>produce a billion
>self-replicating
>give them
right.
>>80315748
>You claimed that due to our intelligence we can determine that there is no God
wut
>>80309915
Atheism is a belief, not a religious one, but it is still a thing. Atheism is not a religion, because there are no deities, no places of worship, no rituals, and no holy text. People are having pride in being one, because regardless of what it is, it is still a thing. Why? I really don't know, in my opinion atheism shouldn't be treated as somthing like "hurr look at me I don't believe in anything" but it is inevitable to bring it up when discussing religion. What is more interesting, is why I never see Islam vs Judaism, or Christianity vs Judaism, etc. Because in fact only one of these things can be the right religion. So why are there no arguments about this? If you are a muslim, you imply that christianity is wrong; there are different requisites for each religion.
>>80306794
Jews are promoting atheism
And its the default position of bluepilled liberals, sjw's and other degenerates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVC1gZInxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LhabQJ_-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NQOnjswuFI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.669381
http://www.shj.org/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/secular-humanistic-judaism-rejecting-god/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/must-a-jew-believe-in-god/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/atheist-jews-judaism-without-god_n_978418.html
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/september-october-2014/humanist-living/jewish-atheists-and-koufax-jews
https://secularpolicyinstitute.net/numbers-the-rise-of-jewish-atheists/
>>80315840
Think about what you said and what I'm saying. I am only saying that we are too ignorant to prove or disprove the existence of a God. I don't think you realize that I'm not arguing for the existence of God.
What if there were nude pictures of Christ-chan?
Huh, you know what. I'd just like to address all of you. Atheists, why do you sincerely care what others believe? People who follow a religion, any religion, why do you care if anyone opts out of believing? At the end of the day, there's no proof either way for any belief (or lack thereof.) Let them believe or not believe as they will. Whether it's simply the cold embrace of death or some welcoming or not so much religious figure, who cares. If the non belief is right, your belief didn't truly matter, you're still dead. If believers are right, the non believing and the believing already have what will go down for each group. Until there's proof either way, choose whatever you want. Depending on how you practice your beliefs, you'll be removed from this world as needed until what's best for society remains,
>>80315773
>Every year they decline as a percentage of the global population
That's however irrelevant. More important is that those people that call themselves "religious" are still calling themselves religious but are far less so. So theoretically you might end up with 0% atheists, but all the remaining non-atheists don't go to Church anyway.
So it's just a statistical pyrrhus win for Christfags. Just like all taxi drivers in Russia have some dangling icon on the rearview mirror and probably consider themselves Christians, but it has no further consequences than that.
>>80316090
You do realize that Christianity has pagan and JEWISH roots, correct?
>>80315547
Religion didn't just come to be where it now is, they made it up. Do you honestly believe there were eye witness accounts that made the bible? If in fact the author is an omniscient being, why is it wrong? People made it up, to explain common fears such as death, and to answer what would be unknown. This is a common archetype seen worldwide, in pretty much every religious belief.
>>80316221
Most non-autistic people can keep their mouth shut about it. Only the annoying people (from both sides) try to showcase their intellectual or spiritual superiority.
That said, it's annoying when church and state aren't separated properly and you're not allowed to do things because of a law based on someone's religious feelings.
>>80314772
Science has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with performing rigorous experiments and publishing the data to be reviewed by other people who perform their own experiments to verify it. You could be a total moron and be a good scientist.
If you really think science is just what the smartest man comes up with when thinking on a toilet, then I have to ask you, did you ever go to school?
>>80316122
We can prove every religion is wrong though, we can observe"God" has no effect in the universe, we can prove the qualities of God are against the laws of physics.
The most logical approach is to disbelief in this ridiculous concept of God and take an historical approach to religion, studying it as it is, cults formed around superstitious ignorance.
Agnosticism is not the most logical approach, if you humor the idea of a God why stop there? are you agnostic about magic?
>>80316221
Because belief in a higher power almost exlusively come from brainwashing at very early age, and this has to end.
>>80316559
I'm not arguing for Christianity. I'm only arguing that we can't prove or disprove the existence of God.
Please explain how someone that's not dirt poor and ignorant can still sincerely believe in a sky wizards in the year 2016. I really don't get it
>>80316679
That may be what you say, and I agree. But that's not the original point the guy I'm arguing with made.
>>80316679
>Science has nothing to do with intelligence.
You're joking, right? Science can increase knowledge and intelligence and it can overcome ignorance.
>>80315528
>disregard burden of proof
There already is proof. Ignorance is not the same as absence.
>>80316923
No, you asked him an irrelevant question. When he answered, you proceeded to misconstrue his answer as an argument.
>>80316693
I just created a new religion. It's called nuetralism. It states that humans can not prove the existence of a God, but also can not prove one does not exists. Prove it wrong.
>tfw religious people are the fedora tippers here in based Czechia
>>80317134
OK what did he originally say.
>>80316849
Fear of death, unable to accept that their life might not have a purpose, unable to accept they'll never see deceased loved ones again.
My mother believes (wants to believe) in an afterlife simply because she can't live with the idea she'll never meet her parents again.
>>80317024
You can prove god? why are you not collecting that sweet 1 million cash prize and a shiny nobel medal?
>>80316785
But we can disprove the bible. If the bible is wrong, why it is considered s text must follow? Why should I abide to the 10 Commandments, and let it run my life when I can run on my own, if it can't even get the creation of the universe correct? People treat the bible as the word of god, you cannot truly be a christian and never read the bible. If you say you are it is sham. If in fact you cannot prove or disprove something, it in fact does not exist. If you literally cannot prove something, it is but a myth, and god is already labelled under the myth archetypes. You cannot prove god? Then your god does not exist.
>>80316233
Lol, your statement is not accurate jewboi. There wont be a pyrrhus victory. Those who are truly religious will simply continue to outbreed the non religious.
>>80316849
A lot of first world posters are the poor of their countries.
Imageboards are a funny thing, its where the upper class of the third world come to chat with the scum of the first world.
>>80316997
Thx for pointing that out. Good job finding a contradiction in his argument btw.
>>80301989
Just give a clear and complete definition of wtf a god is, it's that simple.
>protip: you can't
>>80317237
You should check out China
>>80317194
I like Nuetella.
But I also like thinking about God, as the sum of the "entire universe", or a clever God (as opposed to a benevolent God). Sometimes I put Nuetella on those too.
>>80316526
You do realize jews hate Christanity right?
>>80317498
Its literally wrong, you cannot improve your intelligence in your adult life, you can boost it with drugs buts that's temporary and often neurotoxic.
>>80317466
I never said you should abide by the 10 commandments. And you haven't proved nuetralism wrong yet.
>>80317668
Stay on topic and disprove nuetralism.
Atheist here.
America needs religion because we cannot find unity anywhere else. We cannot unify racially because we have no specific and established American ethnic identity. We cannot unify politically because our political system has been subverted, and nobody has comparable enough political opinions to unify in a significant way. It is a struggle to unify nationally because patriotism is actively fought against by the culture.
Religion is the only method through which white Americans can unify, it is the only flag that we can rally under. There is strength in unity, and if we have to entertain some line of thinking that isn't true, then so be it. We lack strength overall so we cannot afford to discriminate between those things which we use to unify and gather strength from.
Also atheists are all around gloomy and are depressing to be around, its much better to pretend to be a Christian.
>>80317335
But that's obviously buying into a fantasy
I can concede the idea that there might be some sort of being in the universe that has "god" like powers when compared to humans, but it certainly isn't going to be any deity from earth
Heck the mere fact man has created a fuckton of religions with different deities throurought history should already be proof enough that everything is fucking fantasy
>>80317630
Yes but that doesn't change the fact that Christianity has jewish roots like the book of Leviticus for an example.
Do atheist realize you can literally feel the presence of God just by truly seeking him? This is how I got my proof. Why do you need everything spoonfed to you?
>>80317269
You said you would then argue from human ignorance. He then pointed out that we have a growing body of knowledge to which Newton had no access.
I would add that while we are all born ignorant, through the use of skeptical and rigorous inquiry, we can actually learn quite a bit about the world we live in.
>>80317024
The reason not to believe in a god, is validated because there is in fact no evidence to suggest there is. Another reason would be that the universe can function on its own, there is nothing out of the ordinary denying laws of science. Even through abiogenisis, or life being created from non living material, still follows chemistry, there is no manipulation.
>>80317668
>you cannot improve your intelligence in your adult life
Yes, of course you can, as long as you learn. For example foreign languages.
>>80317838
Disprove I didn't fuck your mum.
That's the gist of your argument
>>80318030
you should consider seeking a shrink before those delusions start to interfere with reality
>>80317488
Tell that to Donald Trump lol. (SOrry had to say that)
>>80317842
Sounds like you guys need a machine intelligence that worships Determinism... or maybe some form of Illusionism- for the greater... benefit.
>>80318030
How does this prove Yahweh? It in fact is no science either. What scientist want is controlled repeatble results. Let us hook you up to moniter your brain activity when searching for god, are we going to find anything? No. Also anectdotal logical fallacy.
>>80317483
>Those who are truly religious will simply continue to outbreed the non religious.
Oh sure, the 10000 religious persons will outbreed the billions of people who don't care about religion. You're deluded.
Even the Muslims stop to breed when they move into a Western country. They even stopped to breed in Iran (below replacement rate)
>>80318119
And the cornered athirst resorts to personal attacks. Btw I agree. I can't disprove you fucked me mum. That's my part of my point. You can't disprove or prove it either because we can only prove " I think therefore I am" nuetralism wins again.
>>80317900
You're right, but some people obviously need a form of emotional comforting. Even if deep inside they know it's not real: https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/Comfort-Theories-of-Religion
>>80317842
>America needs religion because we cannot find unity anywhere else.
We can, through racial biology. There is more than enough data out there to correlate for example:
- IQ with race
- how successful children are compared to family situation (hetero couple > gay couple etc)
- how successful relations are with respect to things like substance abuse, promiscuity, things like that
One doesn't need to be religious to promote a conservative lifestyle. The only problem is political correctness and SJW cunts denouncing those statistics based on muh feels.
>>80317917
The same could be said of Islam
Doesn't change the fact they hate each other.
Especially since the birth right was supposedly stolen from the muslims by Jews
>>80318549
Lol I meant atheist
>>80310464
>reads reddit
I'm a #GodHater now!
*tips fedora*
Why do reddit atheists even care? Most people rebel against the sexual mores because they are horny teens. Reddit fedora tippers aren't getting women, so why are they so butthurt about sexual proscriptions?
>>80317842
>needs religion
Almost half of china is nonreligious and they have the highest GDP in the world. What you're looking for is nationalism. We are all american, and that is what can unite us. Also I've met a Creationist, and almost broke down at how far gone she was. Try arguing with them, you cant, they are so desperate to have their beliefs validated, that she would say, that's true to you. As if facts needed your personal agreement.
>>80314294
We do happen to have a socially acceptable form of eugenics in the form of abortion and for the most part it rids the world of children that would be raised in religious black homes.
>>80319012
China will fall in 50 years. Calling it now. Don't ask why.
>>80318119
Are you gonna respond?
>>80318815
I don't even go on reddit. Religion is literally classified under as myths, bigfoot is about as real as god.
>>80318549
Its not a personal attack, I'm obviously not fucking your mother, I'm pointing out how your logic is similar to that of that common insult.
> I can't disprove you fucked me mum
You can safely assume I didn't, that's the point, if you are agnostic about god then why don't you humor other nonsense like elves living in your closet?
>>80318579
I don't disagree with you, but the mass will always be at either average or below average IQ, and that mass would never adopt an ideology rooted in IQ and racial biology due to their position. That sort of science and data oriented ideology would never catch on as it only appeals to the intellectual minority, and the goal is to unite the entire white nation, not just those in the minority with the highest IQs and purest bloodlines. Even in a society where the average IQ was 150, it would still have the highest IQ minority and the average to below average majority. There isn't any encompassing unity in that ideology, but there is in religion.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Christianity dies as a religion and becomes a mythology in the next century.
>>80319354
Prove it
>inb4 muh null hypothesis
>>80317024
>There already is proof
Really? Post some.
>>80319434
Occam's razor isn't always right man. Safely assume doesn't mean prove does it. I can safely assume 2 + 2 =5 but it's still not correct. Safely assume is a purely personal idea NOT A PROOF.
>>80319012
I already addressed the difficulty of nationalism in the current environment, and China doesn't need the Plan B unity of religion because they are ethnically homogeneous. I agree that arguing with Creationists is a headache though, my best friend from High School became a hardcore Christian and actually/literally believes it all. It's like talking to a totally different person.
>>80319576
Unfortunately, it seems like it's being replaced by the personalized new age superstitions where you can pick and choose which bullshit makes you feel the best.
Superstition will always be common among the general population.
>>80319434
Personal attacks don't validate your point btw. And I'm a Catholic, I just use nuetralism to debate atheist and screw with other Christians. I will not defend Catholicism right now though as it is not part of my argument. Please disprove nuetralism now.
>>80317842
Gee, I wonder what common identity that these people were are identifying as Americans, who live in the nation of America, could all share.
You know, almost like some kind of national identity, derived from the community they share.
>>80319701
So you do humor every nonsensical idea? don't be an hypocrite, you don't.
>>80320103
>disprove an unfalsifiable claim
You're not nearly as smart as you think you are.
>>80320200
One nation under God bro.
>>80320292
Did you just admit my argument is right? I can't tell your English was a bit strange.
>>80320352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b-bijO3uEw
>>80319602
Prove what?
>>80320292
Unfalsifiable. Must mean my claim is correct then. You said it yourself. If it cannot be proven false it must be true. This is how a proof works my good friend. Admit your ignorance like I did.
