>>80248325
>haha thinking that elites with control of military and advanced technology would ever allow masses to have a system where they had anything more than an illusion of self-determination
>>80249435
In small unimportant countryes like mine? I'm pretty sure it is.
>Let's multiply all of the current government's problems by 100
yes, but the form governance can take is limited by the nature of the economy
there are no current systems of government that are like true feudal kingdoms anymore, no slave empires, the nature of the economy doesn't permit its existence
direct democracy is essentially the form of governance possible in a different economy (probably a genuine article socialist economy) that doesn't exist, and might never exist
representative democracy, liberal democracy can increase in degrees toward direct democracy, but even then its delegative, a kind of bridge between representative democracy and direct democracy
No, people are vindictive and stupid.
Given direct control, they'll use destroy their own society at the whims of their petty jealousies and insecurities.
It has use as a feature of other, more moderate democracies i.e. citizens being able to propose laws directly via petitions, but not as a general method of government.
only if the voting base is men with children over 30
>>80248325
Not really. See the Melian Dialogue for why not.
>>80248325
How would you implement that in a country of other than micro size?
Besides, representative democracy is better because politicians are more moderate and less dumb than plebs. If plebs ruled, you'd have shit like corporal punishments or regulated prices (at least here in Eastern Europe where plebs are plain obscurants).
I think theistic monarchy is the solution.
>>80248325
depends on size of governed area. larger countries would simply be impossible to manage through direct democracy. There is a reason the US was set up as a representative republic
>>80248325
Yeah we just tried that in the UK.
Didn't work out so good.
>>80251951
not possible anymore. i run into this a lot when talking with trad catholics
the monarch, a real monarch, is the strongest feudal lord, the lord above the lords, and the system of land ownership and peasantry which made lordship possible is gone
today monarchs are just dictators. which, yeah, on the one hand, that's all monarchs ever were, but on the other, their wealth either comes directly from taxation of workers and capitalists with no system of lesser houses under-girding the monarch, or also from investments in firms, whether state owned, which in fact makes them the owners, or not.
it's not a question of simply willpower, its that the actual way we produce and survive makes such a thing impossible, and we'll just be making a imitation of the past that isn't the real thing even if we tried
Democracy is very anti-/pol/
>>80251951
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords for the win
