I dedicate this thread to the glory and resurrection of Jesus Christ. All people are welcome here to discuss faith and the gospel among themselves, and the role the teachings of Jesus Christ can play to help shift western culture back towards sustainable values.
This is not a thread to debate atheists, or argue the heresy/legitimacy of various Christian churches.
This IS a place to answer questions from open and curious anons who see Christianity as a well worn path out of degeneracy. God loves you (Yes, you.) and wishes success and exaltation on all of his children.
/pol/ is a powerful place with strong cultural influence, but also a place full of Judgement. I urge /pol/ users who consider themselves Christian to consider Jesus teachings on judging others before shitposting. Through Christian morals and values, everything /pol/ stands for and wishes for the world can be achieved. By coming together and making these threads regularly we can shift the negativity of this place and truly turn it into the "path of light."
You think whats going on rn is just a setup of armageddon?
>>80126690
yes, but Jesus said the end was nigh, like 2000 years ago
I just wanted to say thanks to all the Christbros keeping these generals active. But the glory goes to Christ Almighty. Just a couple of things I wanted to confess/ask.
- How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden? Will it be exposed?
- I'm having a tough time with porn. Particularly, I keep browsing naturism/nudism blogs. There are even ((Christians)) who apparently justify it biblically. Is it heresy?
- When will God punish evil and avenge the hurt?
And yeah, prayers for Philando. Idk how he was spiritually but hopefully he waa right with God.
>>80124877
Who here actual Christian/ former atheist?
>>80127448
He's wearing a nice crucifix here, so he was a brother in Christ unless it was just for show.
>>80127448
Christians (especially catholics) are touchy on the migrant crisis. On one hand, its our obligation to help the needy in the name of god, on the other hand, muslims especially the refugees are a very stubborn people who will not assimilate, let alone convert.
Depends on who you talk to. In my book, as long as any sexual acts don't involve actually doing it with someone else, its fine.
Yes, but the evil already willingly walk away from god, so it will be more like a "alright you can go now."
>>80127715
He most likely was non-religous, but a christian none the less.
Too bad he also affiliated with the Crips
>>80127448
>How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden?
See, here is where most people including most (nominal) Christians just got immersed in the whole social liberal leftist extreme that minorities shouldn't be held accountable/ that they have no agency/ that it's all da whyte mans fault
I myself believe in equal condemnation and exposure for equal crimes. They have no excuse just because they're migrants
A rapist is a rapist. A murderer a murderer. And they all have to answer to God for their crimes
>>80127448
>I'm having a tough time with porn.
I struggle with this as well. Prayers that we both overcome.
I don't think it's a very serious sin, but it takes our time, attention, and energy away from leading more miraculous productive lives. It's an addiction like any other.
>>80127448
Oops, i didnt read when.
He's doing it right now
>>80124877
>(((Simon Peter))), the rock upon which (((Jesus))) built his church.
Abrahamic religions go home
>>80128823
Explain this then
I agree guys. It just bothers me that so much wickedness goes on and it seems to go on unpunished.
Then again, I must remember that God is in control.
>>80129063
yeah the dannebrog needs to go, too
I prefer the yngling lion
>>80129063
REKT
Are certain parts of the Bible supposed to be metaphorical?
>>80129490
Of course, a lot of it is metaphor and allegory
>>80129193
Why? when it's an integral part of your history
>>80129800
More like a danish thing that sweden and norway adopted because they were pretty much ruled by denmark and to show solidarity, ironic considering sweden and denmark were warring pretty much for a long period of time over land.
Indigenous (urfolk) culture first, foregin stuff last, including christianity
Does anyone here meditate? Meditation is mentioned multiple times in the bible so I'm curious.
I don't have a lot to contribute to this thread and am not a "good" Christian in any traditional sense. I ignore God sometimes, but I know He is present in my life. I sin my balls off pretty often, but I also try to let mercy and kindness into my heart too. Sometimes I try hard to do the right thing, sometimes I justify doing the wrong thing to myself. But God is real and He is love. Please keep these threads alive anon, it feels good knowing you're out there. Go with Christ.
>>80128072
In the video he was clearly wearing red
>>80130546
1. Don't you have indigenous peoples in Scandinavia that are non-European (eg. Samis)?
2. Isn't paganism on the exact same level as indigenous African and American-Indian spirituality?
Mark 13:13 - And you will be hated by all for my name’s sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.
Hold Fast Boys
Is this the most try-hard shit on 4chan?
What's you're guys favorite bible verse
Here's mine
Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers,
but whose delight is in the law of the Lord,
and who meditates on his law day and night.
That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither—
whatever they do prospers.
Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.
Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.
>>80131445
>hey, if people hate you, it just means you're right lmao
stunning prophecy!
>>80130951
Of course, but scandinavians have been here for what, thousands of years? Sami were here before technically but are recluses in the far north.
Not sure on what you mean by level. Paganism is dead and is never coming back since what we have is a poor reconstruction with a lot of holes in the knowledge we have about it. We do know a lot about their morality as told in the Håvamål though, where strength, courage, honor, independence was stressed. It's why they loved duels so much, because it was public and so in everyone's knowledge. Murder was a major taboo, not that it wasn't anywhere else, but because it was nonpublic and therefore hidden, cowardly and illegal, not because killing in itself was wrong. If satisfaction of honor was demanded and you didn't meet up you were a nithing which could make you ostracized. Basically the gods were just supposed to be a reflection of what is desired in norse culture.
There's probably a lot more, but åsatru isn't that much alike to the spirituality of native americans where they believed animals and other living things had spirits, though there are some similarities, like ancestor veneration. I don't know I could be talking out of my ass here
>>80124877
Is anyone here a traditionalist Catholic?
>worrying about degeneracy
Sign of the narcissist who wants to preserve ideals that are ultimately contrived.
Acceptance of the natural ebb and flow of society is the only true path.
Suck my dick.
>>80132343
>Not sure on what you mean by level
In that they're basically Stone Age religions
>>80133223
How so? It's an indo-european religion sharing a lot in common with the greek and roman pantheon. It's just not as dogmatic and thoughtout as christianity and islam
I just wanna say god bless all of you anons
>>80133428
It used to be as dogmatic until you cucks turned Europe into a shitfist of secularism
>>80124877
Can non Christians still go to heaven if they are morally righteous and live a very Christian life, other than a lack of belief in Christ/the bible?
>>80133834
yes
t. dante
>>80133678
secularism is indeed bad. Blame the enlightenment
>>80124877
Also from a Christian perspective, can people still go to heaven if they have killed multiple people? What if it includes innocent people who were collateral damage?
>>80133834
Pretty sure they go to a very mild purgatory similar to Hades that is not paradise or hell, and when Jesus comes again he makes a stop there and gives everyone one last chance to hop in the salvation-mobile
>>80133834
I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but through me. (Jesus)
i.e. Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. No good works will get you there.
>>80133678
But then again, the >secularism meme
Reposting from /his/:
Pic related (I couldn't find a good picture) is one from the Middle Ages that shows the "teaching of the two swords". It's a philosophical idea which states that Christ handed two swords to the worlds leaders, a temporal sword to kings and emperors and a spiritual sword to popes and bishops. The idea behind this (though factually some friction always remained) was that kings and emperors had supremacy over worldly affairs while popes and bishops had supremacy over religious affairs, and neither could wield any power over the other's fields.
The distinction between divine and profane, spiritual and temporal, even appears in the Pauline epistles. Or what about the actions of Jesus, who according to New Testament canon never held a political office and told his followers to render unto Caesar what is Caesars? The Enlightenment did not split church and state as much as Christian doctrine separating Church and State allowed the Enlightenment to happen. It's very popular to say that Islam needs an Enlightenment, but that's literally impossible due to the very nature of Islam. It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.
And then there's also the fact that Christianity never (at least canonically) had a superiority complex. The New Testament constantly states that none are without sin and that we are saved by grace, not by our own deeds. Even the "gospel in a nutshell" (John 3:16) emphasizes God's love for humanity as a whole (compare Islam that constantly states Allah does not love the unbelievers).
It's a fundamental difference between the religions. The cultures did not shape the religions, but the religions shaped the cultures. As long as Islam exists, it cannot go forward. It can only go backwards.
>>80134120
>can people still go to heaven if they have killed multiple people?
I'm pretty sure some old saints were literal murderers back ini the day.
>>80134158
Which would be fine. At least there would be evidence of existence as Christ that I could embrace.
>>80128072
He's not affiliated with crips
>>80134522
Why would God reward the wicked and punish the righteous when insufficient evidence exists to accept such beliefs? Why would God give us the capacity to reason if he didn't want us to use it and therefore reject blind faith?
>>80124877
I praise only kek
>>80135051
who is righteous? only Jesus
that's why we need him
>>80134781
Good to know, thanks. Though I think there's a difference between killing and murder. It wouldn't be murder when the government gives you the go ahead to decide whether to blow a building up that could and did have kids inside. But regret still exists
>>80134577
>Christian doctrine separating Church and State allowed the Enlightenment to happen
The thing that separated Church and State (AGAINST the wishes of the Church, who was at war with the faction that was trying to bring about this change), in Europe, was called the French Revolution
The terms "Left and Right-wing" came about in those days. And the Right wing (which was threatened by the revolutionary left) was the Clergy (whom was perceived to have too may privileges in taxation and land ownership) and Noblemen
> It's very popular to say that Islam needs an Enlightenment, but that's literally impossible due to the very nature of Islam. It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.
See "The Arabian Peninsula before the Mongol, trauma-inducing invasions"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
>It cannot be disconnected from the political reality without being discarded wholesale.
It could be disconnected if the Arabs et al. had any intention to disconnect it. The problem is we've been forcing them to do something they'd have to seek and initiate themselves
>The cultures did not shape the religions, but the religions shaped the cultures.
Kind of both though. You trying to sound meaningful doesn't add anything to the picture
>>80135287
One could argue that living a Christian life makes you more righteous than those that don't, but rather think only about themselves. Yet it seems they would be accepted into heaven before me?
>>80135511
the only way to be saved is to accept Christ as the only and suficient saviour of your life, but you will be in heaven with people who you think are 'less' than you, so think wisely lol
>>80135490
Throughout every Islamic caliphate, the religion was inevitably tied to the state. To separate the two would require a massive liberalization
>>80135864
Whoa there America. No one needs liberalisation here
>>80135754
I don't think they are less than me. If you establish criteria for righteousness from the bible, then you can measure how righteous someone is from a Christian perspective. Then you could objectively state whether someone is more or less righteous. That doesn't make anyone better or less though.
>>80136155
so what's your point
>>80136410
Point being is why would God require blind faith above any other measure? Why would he give us the capacity to discern facts from fiction and weigh evidence to form conclusions if he didn't want us to use it? And if he did want us to, why is their a resounding lack of evidence to support the Christian account of history and beliefs? Thanks
>>80137172
>why would God require blind faith above any other measure?
Because no matter how much knowledge He would give you to examine, you can always find excuses to completely distrust it
>>80136155
The point is only God is perfect, we can never achieve that on this earth. He sent his Son to die for us, and rent that Holy of Holies curtain from top to bottom, showing that he abolished animal blood to cover up our sins for a small time, and shed His own perfect (was fully human and fully God at the same time) blood to cover everyones sins for all time. That doesn't discount that we have to come to Him and accept him as our savior knowing that only He can do that. That he died, was buried and rose again.
That being said, it doesn't change the fact we are still sinful humans. While he paid the price it doesn't stop us from giving into sin (again we are imperfect). Usually the getting saved part changes who you are as a person. Those who say they accept Christ but never truly change anything, maybe you have to question their truthfulness there. Some get saved and live for Christ hardcore, but fall away into sin (and He will always forgive) ... but either way a person being saved is their personal thing. Nothing can take salvation away, but those that are truly saved aren't usually going around killing people or being degenerates lol. Exceptions to every rule though. All of that still doesn't change the fact only through the faith in the perfect blood of Jesus Christ can anyone be saved and be with Him in heaven.
>>80127448
>- How do Christians feel about the ongoing migrant rapes/coverups in Sweden? Will it be exposed?
It's a disgusting betrayal of the innocent people of Sweden.
>- I'm having a tough time with porn. Particularly, I keep browsing naturism/nudism blogs. There are even ((Christians)) who apparently justify it biblically. Is it heresy?
It's heresy. Keep modesty
>- When will God punish evil and avenge the hurt?
Every man will be judged according to his works upon death. Any salvation will be as though by fire.
>>80137547
That's not true at all. One should weigh all the evidence and accept the best hypothesis/conclusion or identify the most likely conclusions, while rejecting ones proven false. As such, there would be no legitimate reason to reject the Christian version of God if God presented the evidence adequately.
>>80138017
Jesus did and people killed him
>>80133834
The virtuous pagans could definitely have received the Kingdom of God according to the early church fathers, and invincible ignorance is a doctrine of the Church. It's plausible, but not guaranteed. Better to share the gospel to better their odds.
>>80137703
Okay. But being a good person alone wouldn't constitute an exception as to who gets into heaven. That's disappointing because I don't believe I can embrace a blind faith in anything
>>80138017
>scientific methods of knowledge
Tell me something. Is anything in science deemed to be absolutely true?
>>80138167
But according to Christianity, he went to heaven. If such a standard applied to him, why shouldn't it apply to me?
>>80138564
Because there are no other prophecies that need to be fulfilled that Christ has not already
>>80138564
he's the son of God, why is weird when one son visit his father?
>>80138443
No. That's why you attempt to disprove perspectives. If only one possibility remains, it must be true. In reality though, that's difficult, so instead one should accept the conclusion with the best evidence but reassess based on new, incoming information
>2016
>not realizing the only way to bring back Christ is to meme him into existence
why is Jesus not a meme yet? come on guys pretty simple.
>>80138731
I thought he was God in the flesh?
>>80138766
>one should accept the conclusion with the best evidence but reassess based on new, incoming information
Does something become more true the more evidence you find to support it?
>>80138880
it's complicated to explain
Hello sir, I have a true question here
Is there any proof of Abraham's existence?
I'm a Christian btw but I saw in a video that there are no proofs for his existence, as well as Solomon and some others, in the video they said (probably kind of ironic/comic) "you just got to have faith.
>>80138672
Which is reasonable, but there is no evidence I'm aware of legitimizing those. If so, I'd be happy to examine. What evidence exists today that legitimizes the Christian version of the world besides blind faith
>>80139080
I would be incredibly fucking surprised if they found archaeological evidence of a single man that far back. Patterns of Evidence offers some evidence for Joseph (with the coat) having existed though, and he's a descendant of Abraham.
>>80138954
Itbecomes more likely to be true relative to alternative perspectives, yes. Assuming, of course, that evidence for alternates remain the same
>>80138405
It's not a blind faith, but for some it comes easy for others it's definitely difficult. Best thing I can say is read the Bible (New Living Translation is nice cause it reads real plain and not old style) maybe look up the Romans Road on google and follow those verses. Galations and Ephesians are good too. New Testament is just good in general lol.
This God, is a God that was, is and is to come. He is literally outside of time. No way to comprehend that, yet the Bible though taken down by man is the inspired Word FROM God. He gave it to these men to write down so we could all benefit. (I mention New Living since I have read that it's pretty close to original text). I just love that to my knowledge, the only religion whose God made himself human ... literally became his own creation and walked among us ... is Christianity. Jews may be His chosen peeps, but he still included all in his plan for saving us. Also they recorded seeing and touching Jesus, and hearing God's voice speaking about Jesus. No other text in any other religion speaks of that (again to my knowledge). He's something special for sure.
>>80139094
The empty tomb, witness and martyrdom of the apostles, and sudden explosion of Christianity in the place where Christ was executed are all baffling together in a non-Christian worldview.
Thanks
Also idk how to reply correctly :^)
sorry :^P
>>80139388
Meant to say seeing and touching Jesus after his resurrection, my bad
>>80139094
Christianity is less of an epistemology than it is an absolute system of morality
I would advise to not treat it as a science
But you can always google what you want to know about the prophecies. They can't be all blind faith
>>80139388
Thanks for the sources. I'll look them up tomorrow. Take care
The Bible has some shockingly coincidences with what's happening today right? I mean, interpretation can be either good or bad but that's it, it's not an exactly clear word, after all why would we need to have faith if everything can be proven?
>>80139265
>It becomes more likely to be true relative to alternative perspectives, yes.
Relative truth, exactly. Nothing to do with being able to find absolute truth (God)
>Assuming, of course, that evidence for alternates remain the same
Why would you assume this without any evidence?
I cannot stop watching porn, someone help
>>80139546
>>80139546
Christianity is basically a how to on how to keep society from completely imploding in on itself. I'd bet many senior clergymen/bishops who haven't been jewed are agnostic at best, that's why they constantly research christianity and challenge it. It's basically the antidote to the Prideful, Matriarchal society Judaism promotes.
>>80139770
Just google wikihow man
http://kotaku.com/pokemon-go-is-sending-lots-of-players-to-church-1783279425
Pokemon getting these Neets to go to church.
>>80139080
There's proof of Solomon's Temple as far as I know, proof of Pergamum (spoken of in Revelation -and some VERY interesting stuff on that). As for proof of people? I doubt there's a definitive way to know even from bones as I don't know how they would determine that kinda dna. Though, if you're Christian and believe the Bible is true, dealing with the genealogies and such I guess you'd just take it as truth. I believe it cause everything in the Bible really tends to correspond with other historical accounts. Daniel predicts Alexander the Great doesn't he? (I haven't read that in a while though so don't quote me lol)
>>80124877
I want to be Christian, but I can't reconcile my racist beliefs with it. What do I do? Genuine question.
>>80139770
Prayers you overcome.
>>80139912
>>80139838
A true rational man will normally search for the truth and always thrive to do the best/good thing, that's what most catholic scholars did back in the day. But the bad fame came upon them like many prejudice.
>>80139747
All knowledge is relative in the pursuit of absolute truth. Currently I dint think man is capable of understanding absolute truth, but we can get closer to it.
Thementioned assumption was a caveat forthe statement. If evidence on support of one conclusion emerged at the same time as evidence for a mutually exclusive alternative, then you need assess both
>>80139914
Ty for your answer
>>80139976
Support the right to self-determination for all nations - and then read this verse: Acts 17:26
Also read about the Tower of Babel
>>80131940
dumb frogposter
>>80139770
i will pray for you
i just ask you to pray for me cus im in the same boat :(
>>80139838
Looks like someone hasn't forgotten what our Nation used to represent
>>80139976
Don't be a dick to minorities. That's literally it.
>>80140194
>All knowledge is relative in the pursuit of absolute truth.
>Currently I dint think man is capable of understanding absolute truth, but we can get closer to it.
How do you get closer to absolute truth by only knowing what is relative. That's moronic
>The mentioned assumption was a caveat for the statement. If evidence on support of one conclusion emerged at the same time as evidence for a mutually exclusive alternative, then you need assess both
That's not what I asked
>>80140201
You're welcome anon, I wish I could be more help. I've learned alot from a guy at my church who is just so incredibly learned, but I swear he lays so much info on people I literally can't keep up lol.
Hey guys so I feel like watching something on youtube that teaches and talks about the Bible. Any idea of good sources of sermons/bible study??
>>80140931
Bishop Robert Barron
>>80140778
By disproving alternative conclusions, you are one stepcloser to absolute truth. However, you would still only have a relative knowledge. Try to keep up.
As for the assumptions, what are your even trying to say?
>>80131878
Do not be deceived my beloved brethren. Every good gift and every perfect gift come from the father of light from who there is no variation of shape of turning>>80131878
>>80140931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq7NFiZL6ak&list=PLVmzv2RTGVDEoGci2AR5jKbP9DcAlYfEy
This is the best most conservative version of the essential New Testament readings I found
>Mormon
Yeah I know it's mormon, but they just quote the Bible word by word in these videos, so it's almost impossible to do it a disservice
How do you all abstain from masturbation? I try my hardest but can't seem to break 15 days. Past that my body seems to control itself and I have no rational thought in my sexual actions.
>>80140124
exactly, It absolutely makes my blood boil when lefties say that christians are brainwashed. Hermits literally locked themselves away for decades, doing literally nothing but reading the bible. It is by far the most studied and challenged book in existence and they blindly adhere to some hyperbolic nonsense written by a retarded, arrogant kike 150 years ago.
>>80141062
>you are one stepcloser to absolute truth. However, you would still only have a relative knowledge. Try to keep up.
That's doublethink.
>By disproving alternative conclusions,
Tell me, can you ever disprove a certain conclusion permanently and definitively?
>As for the assumptions, what are your even trying to say?
Why would you assume something without evidence?
>>80138873
Because people hate His and His followers' guts. It was the case during His time, and is no different now.
But yes, we should.
>>80140931
If you don't care about if it's video you can check out Voices for Christ. A repository of speakers from years and years. Alfred P Gibbs is based. He's old fashioned, but he used to actually hangout with my mom and dad. He is one of those deep old fashioned Bible teaching guys.
I had some good youtube ones but for the life of me I can't find my links anymore. I had mentioned Pergamum in an earlier post and I had found a two part vid on that and it was absolutely amazing. I can't find that but I did find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9icUvrTkFiQ
I've heard good things about this guy ... Jewish and became Christian. Disregard the ads in the vid heh. Long 5 parter though.
I love how Christian Pol is God bless everyone
>>80141276
>>80141019
>>80141842
Thanks! Bless you.
>>80131445
God bless you
>>80142165
>>80142358
God love you friend
>>80142629
Bless you Britbro
>>80127448
Baptist tuning in. On the whole migration thing. Yea fuck those guys, Muslims have put themselves in an opposition to us, so we generally don't favor them and think they should stay where they belong.
>>80135754
No surprise when this is how your fathers think of God
>>80139388
Explain this
>>80144459
someone got a proxy
>>80144650
So you don't disagree with that? Good
No one in their right mind ought to worship such a creul and sadistic deity who lies
>NOT A VIOLATION OF THE SECOND COMMANDMENT
God, please guide us all through these troubled times. Thank you for not abandoning us but rather bringing us together. You're having some MAJOR fucking effects, so keep it up.
t. homey
>>80124877
My prayers go out to Philando and his family and loved ones. He was innocent. I pray that Christ has led him into his Kingdom of Eternal Glory and I pray for the same fate for all of us.
>>80145150
Did these guys break the second commandment too but with words?
>>80142165
Of course m8, why would we tell someone to kill themselves in a serious way if we are Christian because of love?
>>80145462
What makes your heart so angry?
>>80145760
I was only asking a question nigger
OP here, I'm leaving in a little bit someone please keep /csg/ going tonight the world needs it. Things are bad right now, cops are getting shot in Dallas, etc.
>>80146067
>asks why you're angry
>say you're not but call him a nigger
just
>>80146067
I've already reviewed your screencaps.
Something very bad happened to you to make you feel this way, but you don't want to talk much about it. You did a little bit once upon a thread, but you're more then welcome to say in these theads.
>>80133523
God bless you too anon
>>80146253
I can't even
>>80146253
Are you so stupid you can't answer a
Basic question?
May I say something? DEUS VULT, I love that message :)
>>80146668
Chill out dude, umad?
>>80144605
To be honest, I can't really make heads or tails of what that is trying to convey to me. All I gathered was that Christianity is just a tradition according to that?
>>80146443
You mean academic sources which prove protestantism as wrong? Yes why not. I'll forever post these to show the errors of Protestantism. I don't even need hackpologists, just scholarship. Stay ignorant loser
>>80146868
It also destroys Sola Scriptura
>>80146850
I am mad at Protestants for their stupidity
>>80146969
I'm no proponent of Prottys, even if Martin Luther raised some pretty good point to nail onto the nearest church door.
But I don't think that's why you said you hate Christianity.
>>80147076
Yes, ignore the true redpill argturd
>>80147062
That's so cute
>>80146668
are you literally retarded? I see you on here all the time and you seem to be unable to understand basic logic
>>80147168
I am just anti protesturd.
>>80147244
>>80147062
Wait, who is the one in the center?
>>80147262
Says someone who can't address my academic sources and wants to worship a sloppy split personality God
>>80147316
WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW
IS THAT YOU HAVE THE CHARISMA OF A DAMP RAG AND THE APPEARANCE OF A LOW-GRADE BANK CLERK
WHO ARE YOU?
>>80147370
Catholic-chan from double chan /christian/
>>80147057
Well I don't agree or believe that sooo there ya go. Was just raised on good Bible teaching and that is good for me. Thanks for trying though.
>>80147492
Hahaha...someone's angry and it ain't a Proturd
>>80147370
Catholic-Chan.
Double Chan's creation from /christian/
>>80147316
Haven't we got much bigger fish to fry?
https://youtu.be/aWM4bJNpch0?t=1m25s
>>80147316
>>80147453
You aren't forming a cohesive argument though, just because it's academic, doesn't mean it's valid. And I doubt anyone here is a reformist, reform is evil.
>>80147644
So both Christ-chan and Catholic-chan are, well, Catholic?
Also, I'm scared to ask who is on the right there.
>>80147624
>Proturd
u mean like not pooing in loo?
>>80147579
You mean that Tradition is Scripture? If any what Gamble said is that Tradition precedes NT Scriptures and the
More one looks at Scripture, one sees even more the prevalence of Tradition. Which also brings us to ANS Lane's point that Tradition which made the NT books didn't become null but the NODE of interpreting them. Oops those aren't Sola Scriptura which the term itself presupposes a split in Scripture and Tradition unfounded in the Early Church.
>>80147958
Christ-chan has no set denomination
>>80147880
I am. Anyone with a brain knows the use of academic material in arguments doesn't fall into fallacy. Your failure to even address academic scholarship on Christianity and Scripture shows your inability to address the cold hard fact that destroys Protestantism
>>80147958
The one on the right is just a generic crusader.
Crusader imagery is popular in Christian discussion on the Chans.
Catholic-Chan is specifically Catholic.
Christ-Chan has no designated denomination.
>>80133123
Can you imagine the Jews at the time having to deal with a spreading faith that necessarily trashed their 'chosen' claim?
>>80148283
That's not completely true.
Christ-chan books heathens all day long and makes you yearn for a sexy girl to court and then make babies with.
>>80147880
And too bad, by contradicting History, you are Reformist. Stay mad Protcuck
>>80133123
That verse literally says Jews aren't special, and anyone who accepts Christ (which Jews don't) is God's chosen.
>>80148283
Her clothing always looked like a nun's habit sans veil to me more than any Protestant or Orthodox modest clothing.
>>80148623
You are literally a fucking idiot, just stop posting anything on the internet.
>>80148518
Adding to this, the flexibility of Christ-Chan is why you have her as stand-in for lots of Christian views regardless of denominations.
Which is why pics like this exist.
>>80148609
>Christ-Chan books
>canon ever
It's not even by the creator of the comic.
>>80148088
Ive never even heard of Sola Scriptura before tonight. I'm a Christian ... I'm saved byt hte blood of the Lamb, no label other than that. So this stuff you're showing me honestly means nothing, as for me God is the end all be all. And that has nothing to do with tradition to me ... the only tradition is going to church to fellowship with other believers and that's just that. Fellowship with believers and worshiping God together that day, but still talking to Him and stuff throughout the week. And that probably makes no sense to what you asked, but again I'm just not really getting the terminology you're throwing my way.
I'm not familiar with any Catholic or Protestant or Methodist or etc stuff at all. Literally no denomination here just a born again Christian loving the fact this usually dark hole of the internet is, in fact, filled with some very sweet people <3
>>80148847
Shut up my best friend told me about ray's time cube the night before he shot himself in the head.
Don't you ever defile time cubes or Christ-Chan again.
>>80148518
Yea, I know the crusader getup all too well. Great helm + maille + tabard. I mean the droopy eyed slob that agrees that she hates wiccans.
Also, the brownish tone on Catholic-chan is really accurate for where I live.
>>80149064
>>80148828
I think that's you for not knowing a simple fact. Stay mad you can't refute anything I say. In fact, NO PROT HAS!!
>>80148962
dont lisen to that guy, he always do the same, post some random image of and says cristcucks
>>80148962
This is shit theology, le post
>>80149247
Yes, don't take the redpill. Are Argies so stupid?
>>80124877
>Prayers for Philando Edition
>>80149197
It's cool m8. He did more than that to assure death, but we're all friends in Christ here.
>>80139912
>mfw collecting free pokeballs during mass each week
>>80149247
Thanks for the heads up!
>>80149335
Well thank you, kind sir.
Daily reminder Catholic != Christian
If you are a orthodox or catholic you are wasting your time, thats like joining Islam
Romans 10:2-4
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Believing is all thats required
You have to believe that Jesus died for your sins .. catholics are trying to save themselves and think god is going to pat them on the head for doing good deeds
"good deeds" are an abomination to god
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
>>80149624
Wow look at me ignoring contradictions and oppositions within each cuck sect and instead make it such that God can have split personality disorder!!
>>80149530
I'm very sorry, man. That's terrible.
>>80149525
You fuck off.
>>80149758
Man look at what Paulie had to say
>>80149525
>The one who actually dindu nuffin shouldn't get prayers
Nah back to NatSoc general
>>80149758
Do you hold repentance as belief? otherwise you hold to easy-believeism. and we all know what Paul told us to not be deceived about.
>>80149758
>Ignorant of God's righteousness
I can safely say that the Orthodox mass is pretty switched on about God's Righteousness
>>80149758
>when Pastor Anderson ruins the thread
Call border patrol
>>80150113
I don't get it
>>80150380
Supposedly St Patrick got rid of all the snakes on Ireland, which is why you never see them there.
>>80150046
yeah go and fulfill all the law
>>80150596
Okay thank m8 I didn't even think of that
>>80150311
Fucking love this one
>>80147316
What are you?
A.Human
B.Human
If you are A, then God OWNS YOU regardless of anything, follow the 1st command if you want to live (you're free to not also)
If you are B, then God OWNS YOU regardless of anything, follow the 1st command if you want to live (you're free to not also)
Difficult to understand? This is:
Does God have a religion? The answer is no, but God does have a book that highlight his doings and laws. If one does follow the 1st Command everything else needed will come as natural, I see in you hatred. Do you really believe in God or something that others say? (Even if they're "right", who truly is right is God so if you love him from all of your heart, from all of your will, from all of your soul and being, everything else is natural as his wants.) God bless thy anon, you really need some thinking.
>>80149972
>>80150098
do you think i'm cute anon?
>>80150380
St. Patrick is known for "driving all the snakes" out of Ireland. It was imagery for driving out the pagans but it became so popular that people take it as literal snakes.
Its him in a date with Medusa, who has hair made of snakes. He's making her bald.
>>80150046
exactly
believers aint going to hell no matter what
>>80150100
repentance to please god and follow his commandments because they are corresponding with the way the universe works. the degree i follow his commands the better off i am in life
it doesnt effect salvation though because Jesus did that work on the cross 100% ...... irrevocable for believers
Romans 11:29
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
>>80150189
read the scripture again
see how it says "For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge"
it doesnt matter how much effort you put into being good if you arent believing the right thing
>>80150831
I am pretty sure God also mind controls me and made me do everything I do, not me
>>80150878
>Capirotes having anything to do with the KKK
>>80150903
They ain't....if they hold steadfast to their faith and maintain it
what parts of the bible are meant to be taken literally and which parts are meant to be taken metaphorically? how do you differentiate them? what makes your interpretation correct and others not? which denomination(s) is the correct one? how do you know that you're not the one making the mistakes? what made you determine, having just as much information and what you may consider evidence as everyone else in the world, all things considered, that you are indeed interpreting it the way it was intended?
>>80127652
I used to be an Atheist.
Things can change for everyone. :D
>>80150903
>it doesnt matter how much effort you put into being good if you arent believing the right thing
This is true. In practice faith is useless without action as well, I'm not sure how you're justifying faith alone.
Why do you guys believe this stuff when there isn't any proof? I understand if you have faith in it etc, etc... But why? Why is this reality for you? Were you raised like this?
>>80150831
I only want to follow the true law of this so called God. I know the Protestants got it all wrong by virtue of
scripture, tradition and REASON
>>80150814
>>80150311
BEAUTIFUL
>>80151360
Amen brother. Took me a while, but I finally saw why what I was believing was self-refuting, and secular indoctrination
>>80151109
Free will is a myth eh?
>>80129063
lol
>>80150903
>irrevocable
What if you never had it?
How else would you explain 1 Cor 6:9?
>>80151404
They tried to raise me like this, but it didn't take. I just thought it was all very logical.
It took a few decades longer before I came to a decision.
>>80151663
According to Calvin and Luther...yes
>>80151495
Amen catholic mate
How do you stop masturbating?
>>80151404
It's better than living an empty and hedonistic lifestyle. I also like that it gives me comfort in the face of death. I choose Christianity because it is the religion upon which western civilization was built, and it doesn't promote mindless violence like Islam and Judaism do.
>>80151686
What made you come to that decision though?
>>80151495
>>80150311
Geez, I was thinking about dropping the series. But now I wanna skip to part 6.
>>80151360
Hey it's Anglo-Catholic anon
>>80151771
Next what? Religion is a joke? Are we also all pawns of something greate? Memes? The DNA of the SOUL? What are you? Moonsoon?
>>80151271
That comes with reading and time. Usually you can tell if things are metaphoric for sure if things are describes as "like" something of course. Like in Revelation, there is a lot of descriptive stuff. His eyes were LIKE flames of fire, feet LIKE bronze .. things like that. Seriously it just takes time of reading and letting Him just talk to you through it. When you have questions theres always google (I like to compare what I think with what scholars come up with). I'm not well versed by any means, but I'm learning :) What I get out of a verse is not what my mom gets out of it. We talk about it all th time. He speaks to everyone in different ways.
>>80151268
>>80151363
sorry , works are abolished and the call of god is irrevocable
god advocates constantly in the bible to keep striving and holding fast because hes literally god and always promotes the most good in people all the time he doesnt want degenerates
he never condemns his children though
>>80151404
there is proof its a slow process of learning until you find out gods actually real... you notice patterns in reality that line up with the bible and you are actually convinced that its right and boom thats when youre a saved believer and born again and have escaped the matrix
>>80151866
Sure, but those who don't follow a religion can still live a fulfilling and good lifestyle without violence. Why Christianity? Why do stories and a passed down book change your reality?
>>80152005
Hold on so is Calvin and Luther right, or Erasmus and everyone else that saw through their bullshit?
>>80150831
I am not owned by a dead jew
>>80151869
I'm kind of a long-term guy, so it was a lot of things and thinking about it by that point.
But the tipping point? I challenged God once. I didn't know you're not supposed to do that. Then I challenged God a second time during a time of real need. And he slapped my shit up.
That's intentionally vague as to what exactly happened, but it's to the point.
>>80151160
it has everything to do with them
capirotes are used by sinners to hide their identity
>>80152177
Not according to Paulie le apostate to le Gentiles
>>80152212
Calvinism is absolutely wrong. Just sayin'
>>80140492
I just realized that you guys don't include the Welsh flag.
Also, why doesn't Wales get with the program and make their flag the Cross of their saint, St. David? I think the flag of Saint David is super cool.
>>80151771
Also if free will is a myth are you bound to die alredy? (Not implying anything, just saying that if are wrong you will be wrong no matter what you think) Or you are against the idea of a false free will? That wouldn't make sense, it would be an extreme contradiction.
>>80152498
I agree. It's the worst of the worst
>>80151970
Hello, brother.
>>80152685
I never said I don't believe in free will you nigger. Go play soccer in your slums or something
>>80152352
of course god wants us to walk in the spirit and live a fruitful life
thats why he advocates it all the time
but its not talking about whether you go to hell or not in all of these quotes
John 10:28–29
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of tthe Father’s hand.
Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
>>80152175
Nice non-answer/pussyfooting.
Lol got to sleep, I'm not that great in Teology peace to you all regardless, Jesus loves us all.
>>80152536
>flag of Saint David
I always thought imposing the dragon on top or in one quadrant would be nice. There's also this.
It won a poll or something back in 07 when teh show was running.
This is going to sound ridiculous, but I think I need guidance on something. It's about what would make the the happiest. The textbook answer would obviously be meeting Christ in heaven. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for that, but there's something even greater. At the risk of sounding 200% edgy, I think I'd be happiest to watch the world end. Literally, the thought of nuclear war excited me in a way like nothing else does. I don't quite know what my question is, but I felt like I had to get that off my chest.
>>80152209
>Sure, but those who don't follow a religion can still live a fulfilling and good lifestyle without violence.
How is this possible? And why should someone without faith and religion attempt to do this?
>Why Christianity? Why do stories and a passed down book change your reality?
Read the Gospel please when you have some time
>>80152911
That means works dimbass
>>80153209
i hope someday you see the truth
>>80151271
>what parts of the bible are meant to be taken literally and which parts are meant to be taken metaphorically? how do you differentiate them?
You must understand that the Bible is not a book itself but a series of books of various genres, structures, and histories. We discern the genre by the historical critical method, which the Apostolic tradition (Catholics, Orthodox, and Coptic) have been doing for nearly 2000 years.
The falling out you see of any sophistication in understanding the Bible (leading to things like Creationism) is largely a Protestant issue (when not an issue with just the lay people generally) as it began as a movement of laypeople and had a lot of laypeople teaching other laypeople in revolt of the apostolic tradition. It led to how Evangelicals understand the Bible now.
>which denomination(s) is the correct one? how do you know that you're not the one making the mistakes?
There are a few ways to argue for legitimacy but I find the easiest to be arguments for authority. The early church was ran for apostolic succession (people in the passed on offices of the apostles) and that continues on into the present day. We have one group that split off over an early church decision (Coptics), two groups that claim authority to apostolic succession (Orthodox, Catholic), and one group that wants to leave it all behind and stick to scripture (all the denominations of Protestants). 4chan generally is supportive of the apostolic faiths (Coptic, Orthodox, Catholic) but I find Catholic to be the correct one after research into their legitimacy and positions.
>what made you determine, having just as much information and what you may consider evidence as everyone else in the world, all things considered, that you are indeed interpreting it the way it was intended?
I started with authority and interpretation followed from it.
>>80151404
>no proof
???
Divine Conservation v. Existential Inertia.
>>80152536
I have literally no idea mate. I'm gonna have to ask some Welshman that hasn't forgotten his history, which is rare with Westerners in general
>>80153122
im just thinking like you, i dont think it's bad, the problem is that those times are going to be the hardest, and more for people who believe
>>80153081
Well, the Cross of Saint David is yellow on black. I don't think it would fit in well with the other colors, so I suppose the Dragon would be better to have there.
It is kind of ironic that a dragon and the Cross of Saint George would be on the same flag, though.
>>80152705
I didn't expect that lol
>>80151869
Suppose I place you at a fork in a nature trail. On one side is a broad but short path lined with colorless but aromatic roses. This path ends at a cliff that you must jump from. On the other side is a narrow path overgrown with thorns and thistles. At the end of this path is a beautiful meadow full of vibrantly colored flowers.
Which path would you prefer to go down?
>>80153122
>I think I'd be happiest to watch the world end
Jesus is your man then
2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Isaiah 13:11-13
11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
13Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
>>80153122
>I think I'd be happiest to watch the world end. Literally, the thought of nuclear war excited me in a way like nothing else does. I don't quite know what my question is, but I felt like I had to get that off my chest.
Is it out of vengefulness that you feel these things Canadianon?
>>80151559
Must warn you, some of these ARE edits.
>>80153130
You really think you need religion to have a good life? I strictly stick to science and avoid faith in deities and I have found peace with myself and everyone else. I see clearly how I want my life to go and how I can get there and right now my life is great. Also yes, I smoke weed, I drink alcohol, I have sex and I still have a great life, with great friends and a great family.
You don't have to stick to every rule you preach.
>>80153830
>two roads diverged in a yellow wood
>and be one traveler, long I stood, and looked down one as far as I could to where it died in the undergrowth.
>then there was the other one, just as fair, and having perhaps the
whatever
>as for me, I took the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference
>>80152915
Oookay then. I was just answering from my perspective as understanding the Bible has gotten a bit better with time spent in it and stuff I learned in Bible study. If it didn't help then sorry.
>>80153830
This is a metaphor which in no way explains why it is logical to chose a religion for your reality. It makes no sense.
Religion is old and should go.
>>80153734
>t is kind of ironic that a dragon and the Cross of Saint George would be on the same flag, though.
Kek, never thought of that.
>>80154487
>unironic le current year fallacy
>>80154183
What is a good life?
>I strictly stick to science and avoid faith in deities and I have found peace with myself and everyone else.
Is your "peace" merely ephemeral comfort?
>I still have a great life, with great friends and a great family.
What makes you life great? And what makes your friends and family great?
>You don't have to stick to every rule you preach.
You do. But you're not expected to be able to perfectly adhere to them
Just started reading the bible right now. Are there any good supplements that I can read along side the bible to better understand the messages?
>No Calvinists here to get the joke
>>80154032
I am disappoint. Guess I'll just skip to part 7. Speaking of which.
>>80154616
>Composited etymologically ("Jesus" and "Joshua" as derived from Yeshua) and patronymically ("son of Joseph"), a version of Jesus' personal name may be given as "JOshua bar JOseph".
It's obviously finicky cuz you have to keep the Jewish structure whilst using the Anglicized names.
>>80154616
>tfw no Bible anime with kawaii angel waifus
Junketsu no Maria was a good attempt but it was 2heretical4me
>>80155244
kek
>>80155026
p. bigass book. I have a few of my own, but they're not KVJ.
Maybe Genesis, Exodus, and then move on to the New Testament. Romans or some shit.
>>80155244
>The I in TULIP
I lean towards reformed theology, but I'm still open. Maybe getting a book by OpenAirOutreach because he seems solid, but rather dislikes Calvinism.
>>80155026
You can compare it with the greek (original) translation and see verses where the same words concur
https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Mounce-Reverse-Interlinear-New-Testament/
>>80154915
What? No? My peace is constant. The human reacts to certain situations appropriately, but for a while now, it has been far from ephemeral.
>What makes you life great? And what makes your friends and family great?
I'm happy with my current situation, I think I have great friends; very much in common, everything I have right now is great and I appreciate it a lot. This is constant, so it always makes me happy. My friends and family are there all of the time.
You don't have to follow a religion in order to complete life. Sure, I bet the Bible has a LOT you can learn from, but I bet years of philosophy would have the same impact.
>>80155367
There is also Saint Young Men. It looks funny, but seems a little too universalist for me...palling around with Buddha and all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrvVVreWE6w
This is going to sound ridiculous, but I think I need guidance on something. It's about what would make the the happiest. The textbook answer would obviously be meeting Christ in heaven. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for that, but there's something even greater. At the risk of sounding 200% edgy, I think I'd be happiest to watch the world end. Literally, the thought of nuclear war excited me in a way like nothing else does. I don't quite know what my question is, but I felt like I had to get that off my chest.
>>80153975
Not even, though I most wish that were the case, as I feel it would sort of justify how I feel. But I've had a good life, I love in a nice upper middle class white neighborhood, I'm going to an incredible international university. I have come to accept Christ. Really, things are fantastic. But damn I just want to watch the world burn. Whenever there's a happening and many people die, I get so excited and so happy. Not because people on a personal level are dying, but because its exciting. I don't know how to put it. It's part of the reason I'm staying well clear of politics, because I would make decisions that would end up with people dead. Not because I'm an idiot, but because that's what makes me the happiest, like I like to watch these happenings.
>>80153885
That may be it. Every time we get more instable, or a happening occurs, it kinda feels like we're getting closer to the Second Coming. But I think I may have felt this way before I became a Christian, though I'm pretty sure it's gotten stronger ever since, like I'm no longer worried about what will happen to me because I'm sure I'm going to a good place to matter what happens.
>>80153642
The troubles I face is that we're called to be like God's ambassadors to non believers. Hoping for the apocalypse is not really doing that very well.
>>80155026
I HIGHLY recommend the Ignatius Study Bible and its resources, honestly.
>>80155971
Not sure why I copied my own text. Fucking mobile.
>>80155960
the problem is that philosophy cant save your soul
http://utmost.org
My path to Christ was through this devotional. Highly recommend it
>>80156260
No, but if you actually learn something from it, you can do that yourself. Also, not your soul. It's just your brain, bro.
>>80156243
DELETE THIS
fuck you niggers and fuck you cuck christians.
praise kek, burn this shit down
>>80156243
>>80156513
You know what?
Okay.
>>80156464
yeah maybe that work if you want to be philosophical, burning in hell
>>80127448
Catholic here I agree with part of >>80143518.
Some of these refugees are just that and are ligitamatly seeking asylum. These people should be welcomed lest we forget the Golden rule.
However the golden rule goes both ways and we must treat those who break our laws the same as we treat our own, we must hold these people to the same standard that we hold ourselves otherwise we betray them just as we betray ourselves.
>>80156497
>Bottle of Guinness
Absolutely disgusting
Bros, you can call us heretical and whatever, but when things get you down try listening to God-inspired music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgDMxs4aHZU
>>80156909
What? No... I wasn't even talking about that. But jeez, someone said you guys weren't violent. Nice English.
>>80155968
I want that t-shit with the 2x fish 5x bread
>>80156464
I have a philosophy question for you. It's really a series of questions but no atheist has answered them for me yet.
>1.) Can there be objective morality without a creator?
>2.) If 'no' then how do you convince anyone who does believe that you're right? How do you convince non believers aside from lying and pretending that morality is meaningful (which is consistent with no objective morality) or convincing other that it's in their interest to do what you want?
>>80155960
>but for a while now, it has been far from ephemeral.
"But for a while now". And after a while you'll be just as confused and alone as you've always been. In need of a fix, be it from your drugs, or from any other contemporary fix our culture gives to us: pornography, alcohol, casual sex, et cetera
>everything I have right now is great and I appreciate it a lot. This is constant, so it always makes me happy
This is not a facebook post my friend. You can freely admit here your life is far from perfect
>You don't have to follow a religion in order to complete life.
You couldn't know that, if you have never tried Christianity
>Sure, I bet the Bible has a LOT you can learn from, but I bet years of philosophy would have the same impact.
I've gone through years of philosophy and it has returned me right back to my faith in Christ in need for absolute truth and goodness, when I have realised how relativistic, empty and amoral our contemporary philosophies are
>>80157182
eternal hellfire is awful and so easy to avoid if you accept Christ, i dont know why people is so stubborn, sry bout my english
>>80156808
Kek, I was joking. I'm a Protestant but I was playing your foil. Thanks for playing along, though.
>>80128266
>>80127964
It's actually worse for not being with someone. Sex is to be: within marriage, with love, and openness to the possibility of conception. Each time you masturbate you violate all three
>>80155971
How alone do you feel?
>>80157986
Absolutely none. I know and have felt God's presence. I am surrounded by people who care about me. There's not really anyone who dislikes me.
Also new thread when?
do you think people no longer live with honor and virtue?
Part of me feels like it isn't worth it, the silly memes and happenings on here + a life of anime tiddies is enough to get me by all my life. but I don't want to do that.
is there hope?
>>80157599
I phrased that wrongly. I just mean that lately I have felt very at one with myself and everything else. I understand why people do things and can forgive. I understand why things are. I apply logic more often now.
This is really helped to realize how easy life is. I live in a nice house with food, clean water, I can wash, good clothes. Fuck. Why would that not make you happy? I get even -more- enjoyment from fucking, drinking, smoking and watching porn. I don't chase a high, anon.
>>80157695
Some people are evil and they will do anything to avoid it.
Some people aren't really sure about it. But it's the right play to give over to the side of life.
>I think the Chi Rho is my favorite Christian symbol now. This is really nice.
>>80157556
>>80157556
I would actually like to comment on this one.
>1.) Can there be objective morality without a creator?
Somewhat, yes. Objective morality as known in the medieval ages and elsewhere extends from a belief in innate purpose (things like saying a heart is for pumping blood) and so we long as those natural ends exist in nature we can derive an objective standard of morality without having to appeal to a creator.
It's just that the idea of innate purpose to things in nature heavily implies a creator that people shorthand the whole thing to "there can be no objective morality without a creator".
>2.) If 'no' then how do you convince anyone who does believe that you're right? How do you convince non believers aside from lying and pretending that morality is meaningful (which is consistent with no objective morality) or convincing other that it's in their interest to do what you want?
Well seeing as what I argued for is discernible from nature and reason, though many modern thinkers would disagree with it, it seems entirely possible to use rational argument to convince others.
Why is he so based?
>2016
>worshiping the jew
>>80158692
>Fuck. Why would that not make you happy? I get even -more- enjoyment from fucking, drinking, smoking and watching porn. I don't chase a high, anon.
Come back to me in 15 years
>>80158548
But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
>Matt 19:26
I'm about to take off...any prayers?
>>80154616
What manga is this?
>>80159171
By then I will have sold my business and live from my own farm in the highlands of Scotland. I feel that you aren't very for acceptance, rather judge. You cannot look down on others whilst calling yourself a Christian and only practicing 45% of the Religion.
>>80158548
I wouldn't dare speak so widely of all people but virtue isn't taught to people much nowadays in the modern west. We've had 300 years of trying to push satiating your own wills, which has gotten worse with mass production.
There is always hope, though, anon. Don't be silly as to lose faith over something so simple.
My concerns are whether the rise of nationalism in Europe will lead to something to the regard of a rise of rise of virtue being upheld in society rather than trying to uphold complacent acceptance.
One can hope.
>>80159928
I am not an adherent of nice Christianity (humanism). When I see demonstrable Biblical sin I'm gonna tell you straight to your face and ask you to change it
>>80159706
Strangely, it's Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
>>80158842
>Somewhat, yes...
Hm, so you could possibly assume that basic biological function is how we consider something to be good. Although it still leaves a lot of things open to interpretation, such as which (and whose) biological functions should be prioritized. An invading army could justify plunder because it helps them to keep going. I end up in the same spot as when an atheist responds "whatever is best for society" or something similar.
At best it may lead to autistic spreadsheet thinking. I'd like to discuss it further, but I have to sleep. If you leave a response, I'll try to save it, and maybe catch you on another Christian general.
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