So at what point do you stop trying to have an intellectual debate with someone?
For me, it's when they start using statistics and percentages. I just stop listening and feel like I already won
>>80113475
if you're a girl then i understand
if you're a guy then what the fuck is wrong with you? Don't you realize that math and statistics is a way of representing facts? Otherwise it's all anecdoatal.
>>80113800
I want to have nice, clean debates with people with no outside computers for them to turn to when they cannot prove me wrong.
Googling and using knowledge outside of the current bout is forbidden to me senpai
>>80114129
wait so d o you have a problem with facts or the attainment of these facts during a debate
the first one means youre a tard, the second, a coward
>>80114338
He's right y'know
get rekt op
>>80114479
>>80114338
>>80113800
You're responding to bait you idiots
>>80113475
>For me, it's when they start using statistics and percentages. I just stop listening and feel like I already won
The sad thing is, this is how it is for most normies
There's no point debating unless you're part of some society or are doing it for the news or something.
You won't change anyone's mind debating 1 on 1, and they won't change yours.
>>80114338
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>>80114601
I just believe that in a real life scenario, nobody should be able to pull facts out and it should be knowledge directly from the brain to try and sway the other person.
Some philosopher shit desu
>>80114668
Cmon that is such bullshit of course people can change each others minds by talking. If you think like that you're obviously pretty big headed.
>>80113475
When someone starts talking about how Trump is going to be a great president and improve America is when I'm out.
>>80114721
I think it actually makes an argument stronger, if someone can cite a real source
>>80114914
When have you ever convinced anyone by debating them?
Adversity strengthens resolve.
>>80114721
(You)
When someone starts screaming
>CITE UR SOURCES
Liberals almost always do this, it's a symptom of being brainwashed on a college campus
>>80114721
Sure I get that and that can work for a lot of arguments.
But what happens when someones whole argument against you, is based on a statistic which you know is wrong? Surely then it'd be right to look up the facts.
>>80114601
yeah probably
>>80114721
okay
but you realize that most do not in fact feel this way, & that to pull out your phone & fight fire with some other metaphor that blends information & heat by finding whatever stats on wallaby birth rates or whatever for your own damn self, would be very appropriate?
like you do understand how thats fine, right?
As soon as someone says racist, white supremacy, black bodies, literally Hitler, microaggression, white privilege, folks, folk, systemic, or any of the other buzzwords, I know I've won and I exit the conversation.
>>80115120
.. oh also, what makes it ridiculous is that you're just talking about general ideas and concepts, maybe something on the news then inevitably
>CITE UR SOURCES
>CITE UR SOURCES
>CITE UR SOURCES OMGZ
>>80113475
>So at what point do you stop trying to have an intellectual debate with someone?
if they're female
>>80115222
Nah I would just rather not waste my time and continue to say that I will not take statistics or percentages online as fact
>>80115075
I came here to say this. You cannot penetrate ideologically fortifued tunnel vision with all the facts in the world. Be yourself, be unapologetic, make information available. Eventually they'll come around. Do not attempt to "sell" or "nudge."
>>80115075
I've changed peoples minds about things by debating with them plenty of times, just as I have been convinced by other people to change my mind after listening to what they have to say.
As I grew older I started giving up faster.
I now have very little tolerance for bullshit, I just give up immediately.
>>80114721
This.
Liberals always bring up muh statistics as a way of flinging shit when in an argument and trying to see what sticks. When they do this, I know they have no fundamental argument, just a superficial one.
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>>80115531
Yeah i get what your'e saying man when people pull out their phones its like jesus and then they spend like 30 min looking for some study that their friend forwarded them.
>>80113475
>So at what point do you stop trying to have an intellectual debate with someone?
When i win
>>80113475
congratulations your the least informed person on this board. kill yourself because hillary cant give you free college and you will never be happy
>>80118456
found someone that argues with statistic fallacies lmao
>>80114970
this
>>80113475
So you want to debate but ban rational thinking? Dafuq kinda shitty bait is this?
Fuck you.
i know what you mean OP
my friend was trying to tell me something stupid about how 13% of the population commits over 50% of the nation's violent crimes or some gay stupid math shit like that
i met a black guy once and he didn't kill anybody that i know of
needless to say, i am not friends with that racist anymore
top quality thread op, upvoted
