We belong to rapidly growing faction of /alt right/ free market supports. Could be called free market traditionalists, Conservative/National capitalists or whatever (we seriously need to chose, though).
We believe in many /alt right/ theories, like racial realism, necessity of fighting against islamization and marxist infiltration, importance of national culture,...
Yet we also believe that free market capitalism is the best form of economic system available.
We're basically communist's/democratic socialist's worst enemy: Far-right capitalist (mwahaha *evil laugh*)
Anyway, we need our own /General/s so anyone is free to contribute.
I hope that you won't let these thread slide /pol/. Also no bully pls.
Invisible hand of market explained in 2 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkEIrWSPKhk
Free to Choose 10 part series from Friedman about his policies. Each video starts with a video presentation and then a Q & A, with people who disagree with his ideas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4
Thomas Sowell talking about Intellectuals and Social Justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln6lNTxVpY
Thomas Sowell talking about his book Welfare, Poverty and Politics, which describes the effect of welfare on poor people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYl17DiEwo
pls contribute.
>>80103482
pls
>>80105347
No.
You're no different to the whiny far-left liberals/progressives.
Always playing the victim, blaming others and never taking responsibility for yourselves.
Your only battles are of identity politics against people from tumblr.
You are provocateurs just for sake of being provocative - with no goal/aim really.
You'll grow out of it eventually.
>>80103482
How do you deal with problems like electric supply?
I am a parasite
AMA
fuck off
>>80106185
>>80106548
>>80106662
Thank you for keeping this thread alive
>>80106355
Electric supply through private and competitive market. If something can absolutely not be brought by market, like an army/police, it is brought by the limited government
>>80106548
What do you parasite?
>>80107042
>Electric supply through private and competitive market.
So if I change electrical supplier I'd need to get a new set of cables laid to my home?
>>80107174
There is such a thing as cable sharing, you know? The new supplier would pay commission for the usage of cables.
Can you not draw your money from ATM that doesn't belong to your bank? Of course you can, you just pay a fee.
>>80107085
wagecucks and plants
>>80103482
>(mwahaha *evil laugh*)
dropped
>>80107335
>There is such a thing as cable sharing, you know? The new supplier would pay commission for the usage of cables.
I'm just probing you to see how much of the free market you believe in before it gets ridiculous.
Who owns the wires in this case?
Is the electric grid a nationalized asset that is rented out to the electrical suppliers?
>>80107397
How much do you earn by parasiting? any tips on how to become professional parasite?
>>80103482
>We belong to rapidly growing faction of /alt right/ free market supports. Could be called free market traditionalists, Conservative/National capitalists or whatever (we seriously need to chose, though).
Hahahaha, the babby's first ideology people want to fight degeneracy when the free market is what causes degeneracy
Also, protip: What you're talking about is called "classical liberalism" you political illiterate
>>80107589
>Who owns the wires in this case?
>Is the electric grid a nationalized asset that is rented out to the electrical suppliers?
There is a long line between welfare state/crony capitalism and anarcho-capitalism and we're closer to the first one. Let's get closer to 20 or 30% taxes instead of 50% first and then will deal with annoying autistic questions.
>>80107818
>Hahahaha, the babby's first ideology people want to fight degeneracy when the free market is what causes degeneracy
>Free market is causing degeneracy
>Lives in a welfare state.
Fuck off
>>80107818
>classical liberalism is not what I'm describing. My ideology is closer to free market fascism (check Augusto José Ramón Pinochet) than classical liberalism
>>80107613
Seeing as you live in Slovenia, probably more than upper class people in your country. :^)
You need to find a weak country. Eastern Europe isn't good. But if you come here they will give you money just to go away again, at least for Ukrainians. You can have a short vacation and get payed for it.
>>80108282
>free market fascism
Can't you see how "free market" and "fascism" are fundamentally incompatible?
>>80108487
That sounds good. I'm guessing you still have to know some tricks. I'm not black so they won't just give me welfare
>>80108039
I asked a question pertaining to the electrical grid, not about taxes or crony capitalism.
I request an answer.
>>80108602
They aren't. You don't understand fundamentals of economy. You're thinking of classical liberalism when I'm talking about market and only market. If I have a strong militaristic conservative country, yet leave people free to trade with whomever, I would have..... Dubai.
My ideal actually exist in muslim world. We'd just take their traditional muslim/free market model and adapt it to Europe.
>>80107589
>Is the electric grid a nationalized asset that is rented out to the electrical suppliers?
Could be I guess. I don't care. I'm pragmatic, not an idealist.
>>80108952
>If I have a strong militaristic conservative country
That's just jingoistic authoritarian government.
>yet leave people free to trade with whomever
Half the point of fascism is the collusion of state and market. There is no room for free economic thought when the state and the biggest corporations are in bed together.
>>80108602
By market I only mean that equilibrium is decided by supply and demand and that people are free to perform voluntary transactions with goods and money. And that it is regulated in least way possible.
I mean nothing about classical liberal ideology as political option
>>80108717
That's true. Eastern Europeans get disability instead. You can work for a short time, get "hurt" and then collect disability as if you've worked here all your life.
>>80109355
I will let my hero Pinochet speak for me:
Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a United States-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the elected socialist Unidad Popular government of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Pinochet had been promoted to Commander-in-Chief of the Army by Allende on 23 August 1973, having been its General Chief of Staff since early 1972. In December 1974, the ruling military junta appointed Pinochet President of Chile by joint decree, although without the support of one of the coup's instigators, Air Force General Gustavo Leigh.[10]
From the start of the new military government harsh measures were implemented.[11] During the period of Pinochet's rule, various investigations have identified the murder of 1,200 to 3,200 people with up to 80,000 people forcibly interned and as many as 30,000 tortured. As of 2011, the official number of deaths and forced disappearances stands at 3,065.
Under the influence of the free market-oriented neoliberal "Chicago Boys", the military government implemented economic liberalization, including currency stabilization, removed tariff protections for local industry, banned trade unions and privatized social security and hundreds of state-owned enterprises. These policies produced what has been referred to as the "Miracle of Chile,
>>80109800
Miracle of Chile in picture
>>80109954
>>80109800
>>80109497
What you're describing sounds a lot more like national liberalism than "free market fascism".
>>80109520
Cool. You seem to be very professionalised at parasiting. I don't blame you, welfare state invites parasites. Keep it up, mate
>>80110048
>national liberalism
Cool, national liberalism it is :D At least I got a name for what I believe in now. Next /general/ will be called /national liberalism/ or /Nat Lib/
>>80108602
Leave the kid alone - he's a free market fascist!
>>80110460
At least I don't live in Africa. Sounds like you're a no market fascist to me.
>>80103482
>being a slave to the economic Jew
>>80110171
It's not a perfect fit, but it's definitely within that framework. The more traditional national liberal implementations usually includes some sort of protectionism, but it can definitely work without.
>>80110534
top banter
>>80110543
I like economic jew it gives me mony
>>80103482
Despite being of African ancestry, I have to admit, Thomas Sowell is one of the best when it comes to articulating his points with a strong sense of common sense mixed in with pure genius.
>>80110594
>>80110621
Thank you for you contribution :D I like you.
Have a no-pants socialist being arrested by riot police
>>80110813
I think I've heard he used to be a Marxist before he came to his senses
>>80110534
Nice, I'll give you that.
>>80111322
Thanks :)
Have a beta-uprising pepe
>>80111322
>>80111619
I'll give you this one, but don't click to enlarge it in public.
>>80103482
just finished this, was great.
It's been fun you guys. I've got a name for my political ideology and with a little more seriousness, I could actually convince someone.
Have fun, I'm off.
>>80111941
noice. Saved
>>80112020
Still need to read this one. I'm going through Samuelson Economics. It's lots of keynesianism, but it's good for general understanding
>>80112543
im about to start Wealth of Nations, but thats longer than Basic Economics.
havent read Samuelson Economics, i found Basic Economics comprehensive enough for a starting read
>>80112788
>Wealth of Nations
Cool.
There's going to be a shorter, modern version released called "The Condensed Wealth of Nations by Eamonn Butler". I'm waiting for my library to prepare it. Can't wait to pick up a copy.
Oh, Samuelson economics is written like a student text-book, some parts that relate to Adam Smith are great, others a bit meh.
Have fun reading :)
>>80106185
>south Africa
Enjoy your rapes lad
>>80108952
Capitalism is wrong why does no one understand this
if you have millions of dollars why do you not donate this
why you dont do this even though you can do it
dont do it for you but do it for all the other people
that have nothing but misrepresent themselves
every day children die in africa
and we do not mind
but inspire us about that the live shit is ?
life is not shit
But it's the shit we do not care about
the problems of this fucking world
and that's all the fault of capitalism
do you understand it?
That my life a real fake is?
I had fuckin you mind brother
>>80103482
Zakaj poizkušaš biti resen na /pol/u? Vsi tu so totalen rak s katerim se ne moraš sprijazniti razen če si fašist.
>>80114336
Se najdejo nekateri ljudje, ki veliko vedo o politiki in ekonomiji ter ti lahko pomagajo širiti obzorje :)
>>80103482
Sowell and Friedman are good introductory points, but the nuances of their philosophies are flawed.
Sowell has a lot of neo-con/militaristic views, and Friedman is the root justification of much of the easy money/low interest rates which are responsible for the severe business cycle we've seen in the past few decades
The Austrian school is much more conducive with this notion of national capitalism, and much more ideologically consistent.
Rothbard's libertarian populist doctrine, Hoppe's assertion that closed borders is necessary to preserve free association, and Mises's endorsement of fascism as legitimate means of implementing regime change are all evidence of this.
http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch5.html
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/hans-hermann-hoppe/open-borders/
http://www.cato.org/blog/ludwig-von-mises-fascism
>>80115998
This is the type of genius(es) I've been waiting for. You're welcome to look for these threads in the future and contribute. I will check your links, thank you for contribution
>>80103482
Reminder that the guy in your pic supports the current "refugee" scam along establishmentarian economic lines.
I dont get it is this topic anti-bank or anti welfare?
>>80116932
I didn't know that. I believe that "refugees" are an invading Islamic army set to destabilise Europe.
>>80113214
>the Soviet economy is proof that, contrary to what many skeptics had earlier believed, a socialist command economy can function and even thrive.
This is a passage from the 1989 edition of Samuelson's Economics.
>>80117332
Ewww. No wonder he was called a Marxist infiltrator by some laissez-faire economists. Should I drop the book and read something else?
>>80108602
>he's never heard of Pinochet before
>>80111173
>muh equality
I can't believe anons on /pol/ still fall for this (((neocon))) junk.
>>80117864
I would recommend it, yes.
If you're looking for an exhaustive introductory work, check out Henry Hazlitt's "Economics in One Lesson"
It's free on pdf here:
https://mises.org/library/economics-one-lesson
>>80117864
Great thread, by the way. I hope you make it a regular thing, I'll be on the lookout to make contributions.
>>80103482
>alt right
theres no such thing. its just something shapy thought up to cover for the fact we make fun of him for being a manlet
shapy sucks at coming up with insults... he sucks at playing the violin too
>>80118771
Thanks. My father owns this book, I will read it :)
>>80119096
Thank you. I will use your contribution in this thread on OP (first post) next time I start such a thread. I might not be an expert in economics, but I know this about psychology:
If we, supporters of free market, don't make our presence on /pol/ more obvious, it could fall to socialism (or market socialism and variations). We need to regroup and post regularly.
Best regards.
>>80115998
>Austrian
Not even once
>Easy money
Easy money is needed during a financial crisis otherwise you get an excess demand for cash I.e a glut of goods causing output (hence employment) to plummet.
>>80103482
Literally kill yourself. This shitty thread is why people hate nu-/pol/. If you want to talk about free market capitalism, make a fucking thread asking what people think of free market capitalism.
This shitty /general/ thing is a /vg/ fad that is non-permanent (trump general) or from exceptional circumstances (brit/pol/).
If this thread is a running thread I'm betting it's not long before tripfags start appearing, and then moderation gets involved.
