Holy shit i'm now a #CruzMissile
>>80048016
That doesnt even make sense
>>80048016
That makes no sense, but the media won't question it, and they will worship her for it. Even when it was just one of the interns.
>>80048016
haha trump outmaneuvered at every turn
>>80048283
>>80048329
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>tfw someone insults and you know they meant something but you aren't sure what exactly and don't know how to respond because you don't have the best words
It's not a straw man their whole "argument" was that his image was a star of david but its clearly just innocuous clip art
>>80048016
I have to give Hilary credit, she hired a great 20 person millenial tweet handling team.
The law never bothered me anyway
>>80048448
We know what a strawman is, problem is that the millenial who made the tweet didn't.
>>80048016
Do you want to delete your emails?
>>80048448
It still doesn't make sense. If anything, the assertion that the star on the Crooked Hillary picture represented a Star of David is a strawman.
>>80048448
Everyone and their grandmothers know what a strawman is.
Trump's tweet is not one.
>>80048016
>>80048016
Can we get link Hillary to the Cops shooting nigs?
I really think we are missing an opportunity to turn entire sections of the black community against her.
>>80048572
Tweet this at her.
>>80048016
How is that a strawman?
Eh?
I'm confused
>>80048016
Actually nice rebuttal
I-Is she comfy?
![t1236[1].gif~c200.gif](https://i.imgur.com/gk1zinG.gif "t1236[1].gif~c200.gif")
>>80048572
>>80048642
>trump was accused of using a star of david graphic to imply greed and corruption
>he retorts by comparing the graphic to something else that has nothing to do with politics.
it got something to do with exaggeration and shifting the subject.
this is the most pathetic tweet i've seen from trump
drumpf is a hillary plant
>>80048016
What a buffoon.
>>80048732
>>80048747
give me an example of a strawman.
>>80048823
It's not.
But it's a popular fallacy to label something. Most of the regressives don't understand how it works. Emotion is all that's important. So while rational people would look at this and be confused as to what the big deal is, it's successful in regard to the idiots that would vote for her.
>>80048814
I can't twitter wants my real phone number
>>80048016
yeah thats literally not a strawman but she just gained manchildren and SJW eternal servitude for being "hip" and "witty" even though shes completely wrong. by definition.
>>80048957
Example:
>look at this picture of a sheriff's badge, Hillary should be in jail because she's crooked
>why did you put a star of david over a picture of money? ANTI-SEMITE
When did Jews get universal rights to the 6 point star? Is no one else allowed to use it anymore? Why didn't I get informed of this?
>>80048957
>you just want examples because you hate pol. Demanding examples is a sign of hating the pol, and you shouldn't do that.
There ya go.
haha she sure fucking owned the racist sexist homophobic cis white male scum bigot aka drumpf akak litteraly hitler :^) 3Imwithher
really makes u think...
>>80048993
Claiming a snowflake on Frozen merch from jew owned Disney has the same implications as Trump calling Hillary corrupt while retweeting a 4chan image with a star of david over a pile of money, regarding anti-semitism IS a strawman
>>80048957
>A: We should relax the laws on beer.
>B: No, any society with unrestricted access to intoxicants loses its work ethic and goes only for immediate gratification.
Assumes a different position than the original claim and disproves it instead of the original claim.
>>80049038
#FreeTheHexagrams
>>80049020
the graphic he used originated from a site known for its heavy anti semitism. and were talking about politics over here.
pretty sure the original maker of the graphic is sensitive to the usage of the star of david.
>>80048016
I am now #HillaryArtillery
>>80049117
>star of david over a pile of money
>sheriff badge over a pile of illegally obtained money
fixed that for you
>>80049038
forget trump for a minute. If anyone ever posted a sixpointed star with corruption and piles of money on /pol/, NOT ONE FUCKING /POL/TARD WOULD SAY LOL LOOK AT THAT SHERIFF'S BADGE.
dishonesty is not attractive, anon.
>>80049117
The point is that in both cases its just a coincidence, so no, its not a Strawman.
>>80049147
>the graphic he used originated from a site known for its heavy anti semitism
Prove it.
>>80049147
As long as the media can't even get their reports on the origin of the image straight, it's entirely inconsequential. It's not like the creator was credited in the tweet.
>>80048016
Wtf, I hate frozen now, I am now a #CruzsaderForShilldawg
>>80049147
>the graphic he used originated from a site known for its heavy anti semitism. and were talking about politics over here.
Actually, that's incorrect
The image tweeted by Trump was actually posted by an anti-hillary twitter account hours before it got posted on 8/pol/
The account has been taken down but I'm sure someone could link you with an archive of the tweet, IIRC it was posted around here several times
>>80049222
>Sheriff badge
Oh come on
>>80049274
That pic was from /pol/. You have to be in willfull denial to pretend it's a coincidence it wa a star of david
wtf I hate Trump now
>>80048016
lol she doesn't even know what a Strawman is. kek.
>>80049358
>Oh come on
>>80048896
Why do you look like a monkey?
>>80049178
>Hill
>>80049178
> He isn't an #Art-HillaryShell
Do you even Kek?
>>80048016
what's the issue with the image of frozen?
>>80048993
>>80048964
It is a strawman. Trump is pretending his opponents criticized him for using the star of david, but he was criticized for using the star of david superimposed over a sea of money and a corrupt politician. Clearly Disney's frozen does hold the same conjurations and thous does not warrant the same response.
>>80048810
something about super predators
>>80049509
All these stars of david everywhere!
>>80049348
Something about using sheriff's badge
>mfw people also call the asshole a rusty sheriff's badge
>>80049147
the image was tweeted hours before it ended up on 8/pol/
>>80049429
>/pol/ is NOT anti-semitic
>Trump's argument was NOT a strawmen
>>80049524
Prove its the star of David
>>80049552
Not racist
Is this really the great meme war I've been hearing about so much?
Her stance on Super-Predators vs. Aliens is whoever wins, she wins
>>80049524
This
>>80048896
Not really, as a star of David is not filled, has intersecting/interwoven lines.
Do you even heraldry?
Of course, following are all Nazi symbols:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosses_in_heraldry#Classical_heraldry
>>80049524
No, it's not a strawman. The argument is whether or not the intended use of the shape was the star of david. As it is not the intended use on the frozen picture, it is not the intended use of the trump retweeted picture.
That is the direct correlation.
>>80049552
We would never infer anything jewlike by using the sheriff's star.
/pol/ is a board of peas.
>>80048896
>trump was accused the shape he used was OBVIOUSLY a reference to jews
>trump posts another instance of shape being used after his campaign came in explaining that it's just a basic MS paint shape
the ONLY strawman here was hillary tweet itself.
>throwing out random internet lingo
wot
>i-it was a sheriff star!!
>>80048016
Too bad she didn't even come up with that on her own.
>>80049526
Maybe she should just let it go.
>>80049786
Truth
>>80049786
it was retweeted by an anti-hillary twitter account before though
The "jewish star" is a basic shape usable in Windows paint btw
>>80049358
It's not from /pol/ you fucking retard
This account
>>80048016
WTF I hate Trump now
>>80048732
no it wasn't
Strawman is when you invent the argument for him then attack it
>>80049358
Its not from pol, its from an average sperg on Twitter.
MS Paint only offers 3 types of stars, 4, 5 and 6 pointed. The 6-pointed star is the only of those that allows for proper captions.
>>80049038
no actual jew or israeli cares about this. this is pathetic.
diaspora libtards are jewish as much as palestinians are.
>>80049117
the picture has 0 implication to the jewish star of david. its completely filled and has a completely different colour.
by having no argument against that picture, pulling the star of david argument IS the strawman. it has nothing to do with the argument,picture or situation while it supposedly marks him as a racist.
by definition, defeating an irrelevant argument thats supposedly similar to the original in order to look like you won. that is exactly what the libtards are doing.
trump posting the frozen merch with the star on it is SPOT ON. it is a star, it does not mean anything, it is irrelevant.
hillary accusing THAT of strawman is COMPLETE irony.
>>80049358
>>80049524
>assumptions
>/pol/ originated means antisemitisim
1. youre assuming someones intentions on a visual basis which is completely retarded and fits a delusional housewife
2. /pol/ for the past year or even more has completely changed colours, theres barely any stormys anymore and the general consensus is favoring israel.
no, 3-6 spergies dont count as /pol/.
telling you to suck my dick while looks like a mushroom doesnt mean im offering you a part in alice in wonderland musical.
stop being retarded, stars are used as special signs and eye catchers since forever. get a grip.
>>80049786
I agree, that was a pretty dumb thing to point out.
DO HOWEVER NOTE: he also said "plain star", which makes this discussion of "sheriff star" just an attempt to divert the attention from what he actually said with the tweet: it's just a fucking star, and might as well be a fucking sheriff's star.
Just look up the original tweet.
>>80048016
I don't think that means what she thinks it means.
WHAT BOUT MY STAR
It's not a Sheriff star or a Star of David. It's just a fucking star.
>>80049839
This is damning. She's going away. For a long time
>>80049524
>>80049643
You are creating a Strawman right now, cause thats not his argument. His argument is that its a coincidence and that those stars are commonly used.
Cats assholes are anti Semitic
>>80049524
So you're saying the Jew is immunized against all dangers except being found out?
>>80049839
too bad the "hip and trendy youth" that runs her Twitter didn't come up with it on his own*
>>80048016
The people who favorited that tweet:
50% sock accounts
40% know what a strawman argument is and only favorited it because they think it's funny
10% actually believe Hillary has a good point and will probably go around saying "strawman argument" a lot now without actually knowing what it means
>>80049231
That's because you're ON FUCKING /pol/, retard. Of course everyone here is going to jump straight to identifying it as Jewish.
But in the real world the six point star is JUST A FUCKING STAR.
If you post pepe here we all associate it with kek. Do you think normies make that same association? Obviously fucking not.
>>80049655
>No, it's not a strawman. The argument is whether or not the intended use of the shape was the star of david.
Thats what he should have done, instead he did this.
>where is the outrage for this new disney book?
hes pretending the meaning of the star is equally offensive in all settings.
it's a straw man, and not a clever one.
>>80048016
No, just a wall.
>>80048979
just make a different account wtf cuck
>>80050412
No, he's not pretending it's equally offensive, he's trying to highlight the fact that the star is used everywhere and its usage is not necessarily implying that it's the star of david. He does this by comparing another similar incident that uses the same star, and making fun of the people that jump to the conclusion that he's anti-semitic because they're trying their damned hardest to hit him with something. You can interpret what he said to mean otherwise if you try hard enough, but that's what he meant, and that's what he said.
>>80050412
>hes pretending the meaning of the star is equally offensive in all settings.
>it's a straw man, and not a clever one.
You just don't understand the concept of the strawman fallacy.
You're simply disagreeing with the counter argument on the issue. Disagreeing with it does not make the point unsound via strawman. In fact, what you are doing is called a red herring. You're pretending the argument is about the setting mixed with the shape. That the shape thus takes on the meaning you want because of the setting. When the argument at hand is actually whether or not the shape intrinsically means the star of david at all. Which is the point of Trump's image.
>>80050412
>hes pretending the meaning of the star is equally offensive in all settings.
That's not what he said, and ironically, this is a strawman argument. Hillary and her supporters really need to learn what a strawman argument is.
>>80048732
It clearly represents the star of david, Trump is posting pol memes of Hillary with money and suggesting jews control her IT'S NOT A FUCKING SHERRIF STAR.
>>80050059
This.
>>80049231
Pic related.
People are taking either a really idiotic or dishonest spin to his tweet with this "Sheriff's star" bs. And pic also related to >>80049979
This whole case is just millions of people with shit reading comprehension. The sheriff's star was just something that he said to bring light to the fact how ridiculous this whole controversy is.
Saying that he's all
>muh sheriff's star
is the big, glaring strawman here.
>>80050412
straw man
>>80050830
leaf
>>80048016
I get that refernce!
Guess I'm a #Clintorist now.
>>80050837
It's not a sheriff star, it's not a star of david either.
It's a 6-pointed star, it has no connotation with jews because it's not drawn like a star of david, which is made of several lines and not filled in.
This shape is also in windows paint and is one of the 3 available shapes for use.
It wasn't posted on /pol/ before it was posted on twitter either.
>>80048016
Fucking kek this bitch doesn't even know what a strawman is
>>80049943
people missing that this entire issue is /threaded here.
The picture originated on an account that is simply anti-hillary. No anti-semitic or white nationalist stuff.
The way Clinton and her supporters keep making these strawman arguments, while accusing others of strawman arguments, just falls right in place with their typical pattern of behavior. Like when the whole spin was "Trump supporters are violent", meanwhile in reality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSVtE82Bkm0
>>80049552
>trump gets redpilled
Is Elsa Donald Trump's waifu?
>>80049552
""""" 'star of david' """"""
>>80051030
Exactly. My entire point. Also Trump's entire point if you payed attention to what I wrote.
>>80049038
One for every million
>>80051046
Why do people think Hillary posted this, or is even remotely witty, or even knows what Frozen is?
An intern did this.
>>80049552
>>80051215
>mfw Trump is in the midst of being redpilled
>mfw the redpilling will be completed by November 9th
>mfw 2017 is the best year ever
>>80048016
Whoever is responsible for her twitter should be shot
>>80049358
>Oh come on
A-ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!
>>80049952
No, a strawman is when you attack a misrepresentation of your opponent's argument.
>>80048865
If it was a strawman argument it would be better, otherwise it's not terrible.
>>80051321
What happens on that account is a reflection of her in a way. She needs to get a new person to do that, it's probably some stupid 20 something feminist.
>>80048016
i want to see her try and talk like her 24year old "hip" interns during the debates :)
>>80051030
>which is made of several lines and not filled in.
Just say two equilateral triangles. It makes you sound smarter than you are senpai.
>>80051321
Thats even worse HAHAHAHA
>>80048547
It doesn't matter if the maker wanted it to represent Jews. It only matters if a reasonable persona would automatically assume it represents Jews. No reasonable person would. A six pointed star is not uncommon. Their whole argument is something that is completely irrelevant: it does not matter one shit if it was created by an anti-semite or that it gained popularity here.
Tweets accepted by hillary have -H in the end or sth like that
>>80048016
Will Mexico pay for the strawman?
>>80049358
>>80048016
I love the kikes neurotic, self-importance / guilty conscience anytime a non-story like this comes up.
I hope Shillary becomes president tbqh. Because maybe then the USA will explode into armed revolt and all the kikes will start to hang from trees as they should be.
>>80048016
I have a name for this big shitfest: Star Wars
>>80049992
>>80049038
because western Jews are degenerate
>>80052039
h-help us, based israeli.
>>80051666
so art doesn't belong to the person who made it anymore? or is art simply not subjective anymore?
i bet you hated the "who's that pokemon?" part of pokemon when you were growing up. so many penises that shouldn't have been in a childrens tv show.
go fuck yourself you muslim dog.
>>80052084
time to revitalize the american soap industry anon.
il look away, promise.
>>80048572
wew lad
10/10
Trump is winning this debate and it isn't close. Everyone except for diehard SJWs is tired of being accused of bigotry for every little thing. Millions of people read that tweet and didn't think about Jews. Now they are being bombarded by the media and by the Clinton camp with accusations that Trump is an anti-semite. If Trump is an anti-semite, then so are they. They are being attacked.
A six pointed star is just not noteworthy. The fact that the media keeps screaming about this place, and accusing /pol of anti-semitism, misses the whole point. It does not matter who made the meme or where it first became popular. People only care what Trump was thinking and they will side with Trump because they didn't think it was anti-semitic.
I almost think this was intentional by Trump. He is too good of a man to do that though.
>>80052149
Well, there is reader-response theory you uneducated dolt. Most post-modernist interpretative schemes favor the interpreter. But, seriously, this: >>80052259
>>80048572
Someone tweet this to her
I feel fucking sick at the thought of a hundred estrogenic nerds in a room brainstorming how to make hip Hillary tweets
>>80052334
>Well, there is reader-response theory you uneducated dolt
>well there is this completely irrelevant theory you dummy
fixed that for you.
>>80048566
Nah, she actually stole it from another guy's Twitter.
No, he just wants to BUILD A WALL.
>>80052501
ya know they come here and steal jokes
if you have good bantz make sure you copyright it or Hillary will steal your content
>>80048572
Someone needs to run that shit up the chain, it's a killer comeback.
>>80049117
First of all, it's extremely important to note that Jews and Jewish businesses are only Jewish when it helps them.
In any other context, this German cuckold would be attacking the antisemitic notion that Disney is Jewish.
> In any other context, this German cuckold would be attacking the antisemitic notion that Disney is Jewish.
In any other context, this German cuckold would be attacking the antisemitic notion that Disney is Jewish.
> In any other context, this German cuckold would be attacking the antisemitic notion that Disney is Jewish.
With that out of the way, speaking of logical fallacies, the source of the image doesn't matter—what matters is the image itself.
A hexagram is a common, basic, symmetrical shape COMMONLY USED FOR BADGES (such as the one President Trump pointed out in his tweet!). MONEY IS THE THING THAT CORRUPTS HILLARY, so it's extremely relevant for the picture. If putting a common badge—one that lacks two of the three distinctive features of the Star of David—about over a sensible backdrop hurts your feelings, then you are being far too protective of Jews.
That brings us to the important question: Why are you so protective of Jews?
>>80052259
>I almost think this was intentional by Trump.
That's actually not to far fetched.
Trump is doing good, when the left exposes its crazy. Anti-Trump-Protesters, Bullshit Sexism/Racism claims.
It's important not to make the mistake to listen to the loud leftists anymore if we want to categorize the mainstream oppinion. They are destroying themselves at the moment.
Silent Majority is a term that will very much sneak up on the left. And we can only hope they notice it too late.
>>80049117
Reminder that Shill-bots are confirmed to use German proxy ip's when posting.
What do you tell your parents you do for a living, cause I can't imagine telling people "I get paid minimum wage to lie about Hillary on a Malaysian claymation forum" I'd rather huff helium.
>>80048448
If anyone anywhere knows strawmen..
Let me know please?
>>80048016
>that tweet
>>80048747
this isnt Trump's tweet
check the lack of blue symbol of verified account on Trump's, which you can see on Hillary's
hillary team replied to a troll
>>80055658
Not necessarily a proxy.
I know people who are big "Spiegel" fans, and only belive it if they report it. Yet they sporadically come on /pol/ to look for "HAPPENING NEWS", but even then they will only believe the news when they appear on "Der Spiegel". These people are also leftist enough to be triggered by a 6-pointed star, so much so that they are even commenting on /pol/, somthing they wouldn't do otherwise.
>>80055841
oh fuck i'm wrong
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/750865499660091393
>>80055758
a strawman fallacy is when one misrepresents the other party's argument and pretends it's what they actually said, then proceed to argue against/dismiss this "strawman" you just built up yourself as if you were replying to what the other party said
>>80048016
If she said "Let it go" instead, that tweet would've exploded.
>>80049524
>superimposed over a corrupt politician
Man I really wish more liberals just flat out admitted it in order to make these retarded lesser arguments
>>80049646
Heraldry is a lot more complex than I realized. It must have been the autistic hobby of the Middle Ages.
>>80055983
Still not a strawman.
It would be a strawman if the inherent jewishness of the star in Trumps tweet would be proven.
So in the end Hillary is actually making a strawman argument with her strawman argument. Since she misrepresents the debate at hand, which is actually "Can this shape be used in an entirely innocent/non-jewish context ?" and not "Beyond any doubt, Trump used the shape in an anti-semitic context, and you are trying to deflect by saying a childrens book used it too.".
>>80048016
This is so intellectually intelligent I made me think
>>80056445
Also:
>https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sheriff+star&t=ffsb&iax=1&ia=images
>>80055966
There was a leaked set of emails during the primaries specifically instructing Shill-bots on how and what to post on /pol/ with emphasis on using proxy ip's from 4-5 non US countries. Germany was a top choice. Unfortunately I don't have the infographic saved for that one.
>>80048016
That was actually a pretty solid tweet.
>using star shaped clip art makes you racist now
Has the left finally imploded
>>80056607
Seems like a stupid strategy when Germans here are all dismissed as cucks
Why would Americans care what any German thinks about Trump anyway
>>80048016
>Presidential candidates attack one another not through debates or attacking policies but snarky remarks on twitter
What an age we live in.
Imagine how much Trump would win by if he had /pol/ack twitter interns
>>80056801
No one should. We get about 1 Trump article per week in the MSM, and those are even worse than your CNN missrepresentations.
And the majority in Germany wouldn't care to fact check. My gf recently told me she hates Trump, I asked her why, and I proved her wrong on anything. Thank god she knew I'm a sperglord beforehand.
>>80056744
she doesn't know what a straw man is, and neither do you.
>>80048747
>Scale the wall
Good luck Pablo.
>>80048016
trump is so BTFO hes even losing on his home turf: retarded twitter bitchfests
>>80056607
Why the fuck my country? What the hell?
>>80056607
there are many many news articles about (((Trump)))'s cyberwarefare division including pay to play for favorable coverage from breitbart
>>80057581
Are you unaware of the highly successful jew owned media narrative surrounding UK, Germany, Sweden, and Syria?
>>80048016
I would say its more similar too a false analogy. But any way she has no room to talk about strawmans the way she portrays Trump's arguments.
I came to make irrelevant arguments and delete emails.
And I'm all out of emails.
>>80048016
I don't know, but isn't this "Do you want to build a strawman" a little bit childish, or are this American rhetoric?
