Deutsche Bank
1 hour to DAX opening.
http://www.investing.com/equities/deutsche-bank
>waiting for an hour
>ITS HABENNINGSDAS
stop shitting up the board and come back in an hour
>>80033028
Why is this significant?
>>80033028
Its been collapsing for years. Will keep in collapsing today. Nothing special.
It only becomes an issue when they can't pay wages. And they have a print/press to take care of that.
>>80033308
collapse of this bank can lead to world crisis
>>80033028
>http://www.investing.com/equities/deutsche-bank
There was an anon on /pol/ a year ago who claimed to be a derivatives trader for deutsche bank who said that the financial situation inside the bank was a disaster waiting to happen that would wipe out the EU, did anyone screenshot and save the post
(Deutsche Bank has 60 trillion dollars worth of derivatives)
>>80033480
It's not going to collapse m8. Russia's economy is more likely to collapse than DB.
>>80033028
German websites apply a gray filter if it'd night time in your time zone.
Germans are the best
>>80033424
This. The German government will bail it out if anything happens, anyway.
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13628159/1/deutsche-bank-to-initiate-the-next-financial-crisis-stock-could-be-headed-to-zero.html
>If the domino effect does occur, Germany with its GDP of $4 trillion or the EU with a GDP of $18 trillion will not be in a position to gain control over it.
>>80033485
>year ago
>financial situation inside the bank was a disaster
looks true
>>80033853
>>80033537
Russia's economy will never collapse. Sometimes It seems that Russia's economy don't even exist.
>>80034038
This. I think that share will cost less than 10 today.
>>80034577
digits of truth.
Gold
Silver
>>80034310
Something about not being able to kill what is already dead.
>>80033028
tyler pls go
>>80033349
>>80033480
>>80033853
>>80034310
>>80034621
>>80034884
>>80034966
Rusky bumping his thread like he's defending stalingrad.
Heres some light reading while we wait.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-06/gundlach-when-deutsche-bank-goes-single-digits-people-will-start-panic
>>80035562
Zero Hedge has little to no credibility. It's an infowars-tier conspiracy site.
>>80035562
BANK COLLAPSE IN 30 MINUTES
>>80035491
Ching Chong China(like)man sitting on a fence; tryin'a make a dolla outa 55 cents.
>>80035491
looks like 2008, isn't it?
>>80035688
Good one fuckwit.
The writers know at least a little of what they talk about. They were 'outed' recently and it only gave them more credibility.
>>80035814
Yeah, like how they said that the Chinese economy was supposed to collapse in September of last year?
>>80035934
it has and it will, the government there is kinda good at hiding things they dont want seen
i own 5 shares of db on rh for shiezers and giggles
im gonna sell at a low point to try to trigger a sell off..
fucking need this collapse to happen already so these american princesses can stop earning 20 times more than they deserve
>>80035934
Pretty sure it did.
They had to shut their market for 'noodle breaks' multiple times each day for a week or two.
>>80036055
>>80036172
In the end nothing happened though. China is still going fine.
>>80036172
Learn the difference between financial market and the economy, chink.
>>80036241
Who are you calling chink zipper head.
>mfw i have a grad job starting at DB in febuary
LOOKS LIKE IT'S STRAIGHT TO CENTER LINK NEXT NEAR
>>80036434
DB won't collapse. Nothing ever happens.
HOW LONG TILL DONG BANK FALL
>>80036473
Its pretty much The Happening. If this particular happening starts to happen. I'm innawoods so quick.
>>80036489
15mins
>>80036473
>DB won't collapse. Nothing ever happens.
>>80036560
you're in austraila you're already innawoods gook
Damn and I was going to call of duty and have pizza on Friday at my grandma's while I watch her dogs and cats and this Friday! Unfortunately it looks like the economy will collapse and the world will end today though.Fuck
>>80036586
It's just not going to happen, Alyosha. Stop wasting your time worrying about this and go do something productive.
>>80033028
Oh no.... that's really not good. It's like a handful of panicked persons away from single digits.
SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
SELL
SELL
SELL
SELL
>>80033028
>>80033424
>>80033480
What is making it fall today?
>>80034966
Bump for Leningrad
>>80033308
DB is the most exposed to derivatives bank in existence. It has trillions of dollars in outstanding liabilities and only a fraction of the amount available to cover.
To give an analogy - they owe someone $10,000.00 , but they only have 0.37¢ to pay it with.
Kaboom, in other words.
>>80033028
>>80033485
Post yfw you just found out the Rothchilds saved their homeland (Great Britain) from complete and total collapse from the EU!
>>80036241
Surely they're linked if markets have to be stopped if they fall too much
Guys, everything is fine, nothing to see here.
>its currently worse than the worst part of 2008
>>80036942
This.
Someone answer please
>>80036942
Too close to psychologically important price.
>>80037084
>implying the (((Rothschilds))) wanted Brexit
>>80033028
>mfw the world economy actually shits the bed
>>80036942
Brexit economic speculation starts to take hold.
>>80037261
>>80033485
That $60T was back in 2013, and $75.2T in 2014. It's probably closer to $90T by now, if not more.
That's the world's entire GDP for two years, give or take. The entire freaking planet would need to give 100% of all earned income for two years to pay this off.
>>80037207
People may pull their lines all at once, because the bank can't actually cover everyone who put money in, nobody knows exactly how many people it can cover and the actual coverage may be much lower than people think.
>>80036434
Find a different industry altogether.
>>80037333
Trips of truth
>Thanks Keynes!
>>80037333
>>80037332
So potentially worldwide depression on a scale never before seen?
>>80037332
It's OK, they can just devise another derivative package and sell it to the highest bidder (China?) for 15% over its value.
>>80033537
This makes no sense. Russia doesn't have a bank that is exposed to derivatives valued at beyond the entire planets GDP for 2 years. Germany GDP is just under $4 trillion/year. DB is leveraged to the tune of $75-90+ trillion.
For reference- world GDP for one year is roughly $50-55T.
>>80037493
I think you're giving DB too much credit. Watch, if they shit the bed, something like the british pound will jump up.
GET YOUR MONEY OUT NOW
WHEN DEUTSCHE IMPLODES THE FALLOUT WILL KILL EVERY EUROPEAN BANK
RUN FOR THE HILLS YOU FUCKERS
>>80037553
This is essentially how we pushed American financial problems to the EU. There's nowhere to push this one. Everywhere is already oversaturated.
Gonna be ugly mexibro.
DB will end higher today, /thread
+1% Fuck you OP, it's not happening
>>80037620
Then the real question is how much money Soros stands to make from this
>>80037261
>>80037670
Wait for it
>>80037493
Think 1929, which was worse. People don't want that to happen again, so it comes down to a moral question of pretending that everything is fine so people don't panic. Panic means a quick death to active trade. A lot of trade is actually done in terms of people swapping debt to be paid off at a future date, but if institutions can't expect to be paid back they just won't trade and the market freezes.
>>80034310
In Russia economy collapse you.
>>80033028
>>Mfw Snapchat is now worth more than Deutschebank.
>>80037670
wait and see
>>80037745
Wait somebody needs to buy it
>>80037493
This is gonna be hell on earth. Last time we had financially sound (somewhat) nations to share the misery with. There's nowhere now that is not already buckling under bad finance weight. There's nowhere to spread this out to this time that can absorb some of the blow.
Buckle up, man. Watch bonds. Bonds are what runs the world; not stocks.
>>80033028
Changing my Euros to pounds it will be safe haven when Euro dies.
>>80033480
>deutsche bank collapsing
My fucking sides
>>80037919
Aren't pounds screwed over still?
>>80037620
Lehman Brothers has $600B in outstanding assets at the time of collapse. $600 billion. Look at what happened to the entire world over less than a trillion. You think a $75-90 trillion bottomout won't be magnitudes worse?
>>80037627
Is there an updated pic of this?
Saw the same one in another thread
>>80037971
Pound will likely recover and hans will have profited
>>80037971
Everyone will be fucked. Not just the bongs. Everyone.
>>80037782
>>80037718
(+1.13%)
>>80038103
Ah OK thanks for the explanation
>>80037670
Dead cat bounce ;-)
>>80037919
Changing your paper for physical metals beforehand will help.
You need to get up and walk away from the table. Switching seats won't help you.
>>80033028
REMINDER TO EVERYONE ON /pol/ THAT SOROS HAS A 100 MILLION DOLLAR BET AGAINST DEUTSCHE BANK.
Europe is fucked.
>>80036942
Inevitability.
(+1.13%)-(+1.04)-(+1.30)
Fuck You its not happening
>>80037627
You should leave "European" out of that statement.
"And they would all go down together."
>>80038018
Do you think globalists and financial elites will let that shit happen? Lehman was on the brink of getting bailed out by Barclay's. Unfortunately, timing was not on their side, as the markets killed them before Barclay's could buy that shit up a day later.
If something like DB flops, everyone is fucked. Especially really wealthy fuckers. So you best believe they'll do everything they can to stop that from happening.
>>80037919
Smart call, Euro is going to tailspin.
>>80038324
China usually started dropping just before midday noodles. Give it time.
I've got a good feeling about this one
Reply to me when it happens.
>>80038324
-3.21% / $12.97 as of 5 seconds ago. Where are you getting your numbers from?
>>80038504
DAX not NYSE
bump
>>80038396
No one is or can buy $75-90+ trillion in bad debt. It's the largest hot mess in existence. No financial institution has the ability to absorb the garbage fire that is DB. Lehman isn't even in the same league as DB.
>>80035562
>Rusky bumping his thread like he's defending stalingrad.
I kek'd.
>>80038396
Barclays wanted the same guarantee from the Treasury that JP Morgan got for handling Bear Sterns. Hank Paulson said no and people went into total panic mode.
So is it time to stock up your water and food supplies?
>>80038930
probably should Ahmed.
I just used all my savings to buy a house...I'm safe...right ?
>>80039028
Is it payed off?
>>80039028
you should probably just kill yourself now
>>80039028
You should have waited. Housing prices will plummet soon.
>>80039098
kek
>>80033028
Is Little Italy the first to get bruised today?
How long do such crashes usually take? I have no idea how Stock Markets work, other than "muh offer <--> demand"
Can a crash happen in a matter of minutes or will it slowly decrease over an hour or more?
How bad can it be tbqh?
Great depression tier?
>>80036213
>China is still going fine.
Yeah, China's doing great and will continue to
>>80039400
It can happen in seconds when people panic.
>>80039400
You can probably pinpoint when it boils over. I imagine only an absolute madman would buy when everyone sells off. So it might not bottom out for awhile, but once it happens nothing else matters.
>>80039400
like a snowball... starts slow-ish but picks up speed as more and more people panic
>>80039098
No, only a third of it, I took a loan for the rest
>>80039108
House was already cheap and 1km away from my workplace
>>80039449
We had the Great Depression. We had the Great Recession. Now, we`ll have the Great Explosion.
>>80039623
This would probably spark the race war in Europe
>>80039400
most of the trading is done by the world's most sophisticated algorithms
in general... if there's a large downward drop in the price, it can turn into a freefall within seconds
this will only be likely to happen if there's a large event (brexit) or disclosure from the bank about insolvency
>>80039623
Interdasting. When the flames settle, will I awake?
Strong sell motherfuckers
>>80039776
Good luck britbong
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13628159/1/deutsche-bank-to-initiate-the-next-financial-crisis-stock-could-be-headed-to-zero.html
>>80039543
>>80039583
>>80039589
>>80039739
At which change will it get dangerous (estaminated)?
>implying zog fantasy jewconomics means anything
>our money is paper
>and computer digits
>>80040010
if it were to lose more than 7% in a day the financial world would probably start to seriously panic
>>80040010
$9.99
>>80040010
under $10 (currently 12.97) a share could be very significant.
Also what >>80040127 said. 10% loss would catastrophic
>>80038480
CRASHING CRASHING ALERT ALERT
>>80040010
there is no indicator. Any suggestion could happen and whether it happened or not it could easily be rationalized.
Opens for trading when?
>>80040435
https://www.google.com/finance?q=ETR:DBK
its fucking nothing! wow what a surprise, better print some more money get that bubble a little bit bigger
>>80040325
>flag
Nice try wallaroo
>>80040477
Ah it's live already, thanks
>>80040564
I'm in the future tho. Ever looked at a globe?!
>>80040711
earth is flat retard
thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nCy5CITc8
>>80039400
It`s going to go lower, then conditioned traders will buy the dip, pushing it higher again, everyone will declare that it was an on-off event, until two weeks later the stock is somewhere around 0.
These fake bounces are such bullshit.
>>80040801
duh!
Also friendly reminder that global debt exceeds GWP (or the GDP of the World) by a factor of about 2.5
HE BOUT TO DO IT HE BOUT TO DO IT
who /sold everything/ here? i did and ended up on +28% profit
>>80040924
Yeah, most likely it will be a debt crisis. Calling it now.
>>80040856
So is this inevitable then?
>>80040811
>Not hit the lights
Come on anon
>DB finally going
Thank god. I revealed my powerlevel to a worker and called the collapse, if it doesn't happen this month he's going to buy me a fuckton of tinfoil and leave it in my cubicle where everyone can see it.
>>80041047
>not Creeping Death
anon pls
DB is so involved with German coporates and their government it is likely to send Germany into the worst depression since Bomber Harris.
DB owns a very large percentage of shares in nearly all of Germany's major companies and has many directors on their boards. There's no similar bank to compare it to in America or Europe.
When DB goes Germany will be a nuclear wasteland.
What's happening?
>>80041352
it is
> Deutsche Bank up 2%
> pol BTFO
>>80041515
![_75110606_75110605[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kmyRc2i.jpg "_75110606_75110605[1].jpg")
>tfw you cuck Germany so hard it gets rekt for a third time
>>80041027
Yes. Dunno who follows the mainstream finance press, but calls for a "global new monetary order", new "global rules for central banks" or simply a "global world order" have been written by all the usual culprits: The BIS, IMF, Draghi and so on.
In the mainstream press there have been calls for the elites to replace the populance as the final decider, because our democracys don`t work anymore, because the population dared to have an opinion that was different from that of their experts.
However, to push that through they have to a) prove to the population (i.e. normies) that they were actually right, and b) that only a global response will help.
As for a), I assume that Brexit was wanted, because they warned that it would lead to a finance crisis (which of course was already ongoing thanks to them, we have reached the debt celling by now), so now they have both "proven" that they are able to predict what would/will happen and that the population is too incompetent to be trusted.
As for b), watch out for (enginnered) currency wars or something along these lines - By pretending to fight amonst themself they can convince the people (or so they think anyway) that they need to give power to them, in the form of an "independent" global central bank.
But don`t take my word for it, I am just a randome anon here, read and watch for yourself and then judge.
When do I buy all the cheap husks?
>>80041515
>doesn't know about dead cat bounce
>>80041515
>up two percent
you know how when falling objects hit the ground they bounce... yeah...
Non-economic fag here,
What's the likelihood that this is a happening or just pol nonsense like the muh hyperinflation from a few years back.
Also, if it's a happening, how do you respond to newsfeed normies blaming it on the Brexit?
WHERE TO BUY SILVER NOW!? POL TELL ME QUICK
>>80041589
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>>80041749
Nigel Farage didn't make 90 trillion dollars of derivative bets for a German bank, for one
>>80041749
No one sane will blame Brexit. Deutsche, under the control of non-Germans, thought the Lehman business model on steroids was the one to follow.
>>80041784
You will have to pay 7% VAT if you buy silver. Buy gold, it's tax free.
Only it's too late now, you should have done that BEFORE breakfast
>>80041784
In German bank.
>>80041784
PURE COINCIDENCE
http://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/sweden-gold-and-silver-dealer-shut-down-banking-system/
>>80041749
Show them a chart of bank's share price. Shit started to happen long before brexit.
>>80042032
Would this actually cause the Yuro to drop?
>>80037048
>DB is the most exposed to derivatives bank in existence. It has trillions of dollars in outstanding liabilities and only a fraction of the amount available to cover.
No you fucking retard, derivatives are not equal to liabilities.
http://realmoney.thestreet.com/articles/05/26/2016/deutsche-bank-scares-you-omg-you-must-read
Worst case scenario happens: Germany nationalizes Deutsche Bank. Problem solved.
>>80041946
>>80041897
FUG :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>80041895
shit i got no idea what to do now. what to invest in!?
>>80042118
If I have derivatives based off chickens...
Then all chickens go extinct...
The chicken derivatives are liabilities. Who would buy that shit?
>>80042032
fuck you
>>80042232
They're also massively exposed to Volkswagen, which is bout to get an ass fucking
>>80042032
fuck you pal
>>80042232
RTFA, dumbass
Someone earlier said that Soros bet a certain amount of money against DB, what does that mean exactly and how does he gain?
Fuck you, deutsche going down leleleleleleelelel
The true culprit behind the corruption of banking systems is big words.
Think of it, all these big words are used to cheat and steal. If they were forced to use simple terms they would never be able to get away with their non-sense. The stock markets would never be able to scam each other and everyone out of money.
It's time wipe out large words from the economy. For a better tomorrow.
>>80042334
>RTFA
"Used as feedback to noobs or joos expecting something for nothing on Ebay.Always remember to "Read The Fuckin Auction "before you bid and assume "
I don't get it.
>>80042394
>>80042394
Its so crazy.. it might just work
So who has their filters, any type ready?
Getting my Sawyer Squeeze tomorrow
>>80042032
I wont reply to your post
>>80042032
heh 8/8
>>80042334
>Here's why one of the biggest banks in the world failing isn't actually a big deal you fucking stupid racists
>>80042433
Oohkaay, I'll play along...
Read. The. Fucking. ARTICLE.
>>80042032
fuck you
>>80042457
Nice filename really 9 out of 11
>>80042394
>all indicies are up
Fuck you OP.
I swear Shit Paul is cursed with anti-happening magick or something. Post KEK instead.
>>80042540
yeahhh nahhhhh
>>80042032
fuck you my HFT farms scrape /pol/ post and we just dropped the stock by 0.2% because of this fucking post you cocksucker
>>80038231
Who is covering this bet? Does he make the short with DB itself? Sorry, never knew how shorts work.
>>80036241
>concedes that fundamentals don't matter any more
Kek
>>80033028
Fuck you OP you fucking slav.
>>80042583
>>80034310
So; like; russians are always so smart. Or seem to be intelligent. Yet they suffer fools like the rest of us. Perhaps youre just as fat as the buger... but no, that would be unironic.
Did it habben?
op was wrong
>>80042032
fuck off
Right after Brexit they said they wouldn't be surprised if DB goes below 10, this isn't unexpected.
>>80042359
he goes short. in other word he bets money that the DB stock will fall.
>>80042733
The second it goes to single digits the market will panic and the crash will commence.
their stock price is half of what it was during 2009 bottom lows,
we need to concentrate all our meme sorcery to make it happen, it will kill EU and euro currency.
THROW THE JEW DOWN THE WELL
>>80042630
SHORTING EXPLAINED
I borrow ten gold bars from you. I sell them immediately on the market.
Two weeks later, when gold is low, I use some of the money to buy back 10 gold bars, and give them back to you.
That's pretty much it.
If double digits I'll buy 100 shares of DB when it goes under 2 digits.
>>80042205
>shit i got no idea what to do now. what to invest in!?
flour, canned food, batteries, medicaments
>>80042661
yes. Its a fight. Sellers sell... Magic money buys it back up.
The magic money runs out just before noodle break, and doesn;t kick in again until just before close
The doomsayers in this thread are correct. DB is going to fall and cause a massive worldwide economic depression. The elites can't stop this. At one point it was too big to fail, but now it's simply too big to stop. It is amazing this is being said on /pol. Wow
IT COLLAPSES NOW
KEK HEAR MY PRAYER
>>80042232
> chicken derivatives
so, like... chicken nuggets?
>>80042032
you
>>80042866
Its a high risk investment tho...
Unlimited possible loss but limited gain
>>80042032
No
>>80042733
Why didn't it go below right after Brexit?
Every other stock fell almost double digits
>>80042999
Yes. Excellent example.
Who the heck would buy a nugget factory during a chicken apocalypse.
>>80042032
you
>>80042866
So you borrow the shares, sell them at market, buy them back when low with the proceeds from the original sale, then hand back the shares? What kind of fees are involved?
More like Douche Bank. Who cares?
>>80042866
>i'm just shorting bro it's cool
>oh okay
>i'm just gonna sell your shit i borrow and hope i get lucky enough to buy it back cheaper then return it to you
>the fuck? no fuck off
big words lead to big scams
>>80043142
exactly that. the fees involved are paid to the person (a brokerage) that you borrowed the shares from. it's just interest, as with any other loan.
>>80036560
Living with abos innawoods while normal people stay in cities and are fine during a mild recession. Cool m8, have fun.
>>80033308
Derivatives, they basically flooded the financial system with toxic liabilities that is ''worth'' many times more then the real economy and when that shit goes it is going to spread to other banks.
>Pic related dec 31 2014
Its not better now.
Its like a game of musical chairs with 10 chairs and 500 people, it works fine until the music stops.
>>80042032
heh
>>80042032
>>80043272
why and how can they do this?
where does the fake money no one has come from?
>>80043239
That's wild. Are there riskier investment mechanisms with securities? Can you short any tradeable item?
time to stock up on canned goods?
>>80043331
nowhere, thats the hole thing with the modern banking system. It literally is fake money. It's all make belief.
>>80043363
You can short everything
>>80043331
get yourself redpilled lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov2Sd-QRi_g
>>80033424
It will never collapse. Our government will start confiscating money from its citizens before they allow a bank that is relevant to the system to collapse.
>>80043363
You can short anything. You can even short things that aren't items.
You can short the weather.
>The Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) has a wide variety of weather derivatives available for trade, covering multiple continents and over 40 global cities. These futures cover temperature ranges, snowfall amounts and frost. (For further reading, check out Introduction to Weather Derivatives.)
just some weeks before this shit ron paul said that it will happen and that it will be horrible. why the fuck didnt we listen!?
Did Brexit start the fire?
>>80043604
thats sounds like a pretty big happening to me, hans
>>80043604
>implying this wouldnt lead to riots all over germany
>>80043331
>why and how can they do this?
They ferment an image that finance is boring and really hard and then they just use insider lingo to describe their different scams. That way people don't really bother trying to understand it and they don't really question it because they don't want to look stupid. So when Ben Bernanke goes like ''fiscal policy blabla quantitative easing second quarter growth blabla'' people are like ''oh ok, that sounds good''
When in reality he is just saying ''we need to create a bunch of money and give it to the bankers that screwed us in the first place''
Basically like this guy said.
>>80043220
>where does the fake money no one has come from?
Fractional reserve lending.
>>80043730
Yeah, just pointing out that it will be a contained happening, not one that spreads to the whole world.
At least not right away.
>>80043749
I sure as fuck hope it would. But I am not entirely certain. The only ones who really riot in our country are the bottom dwellers of the left and they have nothing that could be confiscated anyway.
>>80043679
Derivatives are anything whose behavior or outcome can be bet on?
>>80043331
What is the federal reserve?
>>80043749
this would the best thing that can happen to us. Tear it all down and start again. Auferstanden aus Ruinen.
>>80043788
>Fractional reserve lending
>>80043532
once again the big word theory holds true and banks get away with crimes against humanity
>>80043819
>Yeah, just pointing out that it will be a contained happening, not one that spreads to the whole world.
You're wrong though, this shit is going to be global. The means of production will still be there but global trade will grind to a halt and all that electronic money will go up in smoke.
>>80043968
dude i guarentee you that either a radical right wing or a radical left wing force would take over.
goodbye democracy
>>80042032
Mfw these always get replies
Because /pol/ cares ;-;
>>80043604
i heard it would cost 4,5 trillion. for example, there existed 10,2 trillion USD in the world in 2013. not even all eu citizens combined have that much money.
>>80044028
sounds like a good thing for nationalism
>>80043604
Which is in the end a good thing...
A collapse would be worse
There's only two options :
1) it collapses now and plunge the world in the biggest recessions of History.
2) the status quo is maintained artificially even longer, resulting in the inevitable collapse to be even bigger than 1)
Whatever happen, you best believe genocidal fascism is coming, lads.
