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Did they deserve to die?
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Absolutely not. He was a good man but maybe unfit to be Tsar.
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>>80030241
No, all the Marxists that killed them should be hanged and the Tsar shall come on his horse with his army to Moscow and reclaim Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEATiGKOTEs
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>>80030241
all royalty should die.
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Depends. The reds took over and they were more as less just as bad.
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>>80030564
yes, but you are forgetting the nobility, they should also be exterminated
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>>80030564
All liberals should die, 1 King, 1 People, 1 God.
Glory to the Tsar!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljd2MLlkg6g
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>>80030241
Of course not

Unfortunately the bolshevik parasites thought otherwise
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>>80030662
>>80030564
You both must be exterminated for the revolution to be fulfilled.
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>>80030241
No, they were (((betrayed))). Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>Did these children deserve to die because stupid commie peasants wanted to genocide a bunch of people and destroy the world?
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>>80030241
He was rasputins cuck, so yes
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>subhuman Jewish parasites execute the Romanovs in a dingy basement, exterminating a Royal house and ending its bloodline forever in a night

>proceed to take over and completely destroy Russian society for the next century

Not even one thousand Holocausts can pay back what they did.
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>>80030241
Given that a large number of my family members were killed/exiled in the purges that followed I'm going to vote no.

Fuck communism and everything it brings.
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Yes. For their crimes against the Russian people.

Monarchism was a cancer against any rule by the people be it Communism, Democracy, Republicanism, Socialism, etc.
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>>80031092
Romanov bloodline is still alive today

just not in Russia
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>>80030564
Fuck off you worthless pud of semen. Europe started going to shit when we abandoned monarchical contitutions and monarchical rule.
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>>80031130
ok edge

What is the difference between Feudalism and Soviet socialism?
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>>80030241
>the Okhrana
>starts World War I, resulting in the immediate hundreds of thousands of deaths of his subjects
>bans the sale of vodka, taxation on which was nearly 33% of Imperial revenues
>actually starts a war while simultaneously cutting off a main source of finance
>then takes personal command of the Russian Army, leading to millions of deaths of his subjects
>refused to end the war even as the Russian Army ceased to exist as a fighting force, leading to millions more deaths
>during which time, the understandable anti-war sentiment in Russia was reaching levels where a revolution was seeming likely and then inevitable
>kept sending millions to die
>brought about the end of the Romanov dynasty through sheer stupidity and callousness to the suffering of his subjects
>gifted us all with the nightmare of Soviet Communism

He got what he deserved. The man was a brutal and stupid tyrant, who only seems even slightly sympathetic because he was murdered by the brutal, intelligent tyrants that his brutality and stupidity brought to power.

Fuck Nicholas II.
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>>80030564
>all royalty should die.
found the jew
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>>80030621
No reds were better, at least Stalin was competent.
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>>80030241

kind of. revolution was really inevitable. reforms were slow, and the repressions were becoming increasingly violent. to the point where imperial forces would literally line up all the males of a village and execute every 10th to send a message
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>>80031321
Russian Empire wasn't Feudal, it had no serfs.
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>>80030241
The literal equivalent of being killed by BLM for white priviledge
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>>80031350
Death to you, Jew.
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>>80031321
>What is the difference between Feudalism and Soviet socialism?

Mechanization
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>>80030892
Right, it was the (((commie peasants))) who wanted to removal the previous ruling class....
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>>80031506
>Russian Empire wasn't Feudal

The Russian Empire by the time of Nicholas II wasn't Feudal. My ancestors were "kulaks" as the commies called us at the time.

I'm trying to point out that feudalism and the soviet socialism were not that different in terms of enslaving the people.
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>>80030241
No, Nicholas is one of the biggest "JUST" in history
Literally did what the people wanted by popular opinion and got killed for it
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He was bourgeoisie scum. Yes he had it coming. Why is it so hard for you monarchist bootlickers to understand?
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No... they didn't. Very few people deserve death.
poor Russia.
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>>80031439
We will see if "reds" are better when white army purges all filth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkX89LWtCPc
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>>80031711
dubs of truth
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>>80030241
His daughter was a qt

RIP
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>>80031778
jesus fuck off to Cuba if you want to larp as a commie you retarded faggot
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>>80030241
The Tsar and Tsarina were by all accounts some of the most loving and wonderful parents anyone could have ever asked for.

They really fucking loved their kids, and all they wanted was to have a good life and a good future. It's fucking sad.
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>>80031711
it was the jews
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Nicholas's father (Alexander III), a burly "man's man", practically despised Nicholas and never bothered to teach him the finer points of keeping a huge empire together. When Alexander died relatively young, Nicholas had barely the faintest clue how to rule.

He was fairly sensitive and indecisive. Enter Alexandra, who was a good deal more decisive. Nicholas was hopelessly in love with his wife and did everything she told him to do.

When their child Alexei turned out to be a hemophiliac, the overly-religious Alexandra was all-too ready to believe the lies of manipulative monk Rasputin, who claimed he could stop Alexei's bleeding.

NOW, you had degenerate Rasputin telling Alexandra how to rule, who in turn told Nicky, who in turn did as he was told. In peacetime that would have been disastrous enough, but all this coincided with the outbreak of WWI, which feudalistic Russia was completely unprepared for.

It was the perfect storm against Nicholas. The country all but collapsed under the strain. Although his regime was relatively benign compared to the Bolshevik butchery to come, he helped set the stage by refusing to modernize and allow true democratic institutions to flourish. All people ever knew was the "strong man", and it's all they respected.

tldr: he was incompetent, but not a butcher.
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Nah, it was the aristocrats who were cunts. Nicky wasn't so bad
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>>80031911
I can't believe that happened almost 100 years ago and the Jews ended up winning.
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>>80030241
Yes and no.

He fucked up pretty majorly before and after WW1.

Most probably don't know this but the Bolshevik revolution was supported by Germany as they wanted Russia out of WW1.

Russian POW's that hated the Tsar and had sympathies with socialism/communism were released and sent back to Russia to stir up trouble.
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>>80031350
He deserved to be taken out of power. A banishing at best, a public hanging at worst.

But the way they did it, and his family? That was pure barbarism. It was an inhuman act.
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>>80030241
He was a shit emperor but he and his family were unjustly murdered, women an children, by the Bolshies. Not even the younglings survived. I have this feeling Russia could have become something really great if 1917 didn't happen, wth new leadership not composed of gommies.
>>80030892
>commie peasants
The bolsheviks were not the common people, they were a bunch of radical intellectuals that sought to force their crazy ideology on the common people.
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No, and they wouldn't, hand't Nikolai been such a cuck.
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>>80032055
>He deserved to be taken out of power. A banishing at best, a public hanging at worst.
Found the false opposistion Jew.
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>>80031593
>me
>Jew

If any other man, or woman, or possibly a small child or dog, had been on the Russian throne, Communism would never have happened and Western civilization wouldn't have gut shot itself in the fields of Flanders.

The deplorable world we live in today is the direct result of the idiocy of Nicholas II.

And even if he didn't personally deserve to die, he lost two wars and directly ordered millions to their deaths. A failed military leader should share the fate of those he sent to die, which is why the honorable ones used to fall on their swords.
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>>80032173
Kill yourself Jew, you fool no one.
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>>80031847
At least commies aren't monarchist cucks
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>>80032118
Nicholas was literally the Jeb Bush of Russia

he didn't do anything
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>>80032065
>I have this feeling Russia could have become something really great if 1917 didn't happen, with new leadership not composed of gommies.

Agreed when I was taught about the tsar, his family and the revolution in high school it was the saddest part of history for me I wish things could have gone differently.
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>>80031366
>>80030755
>>80031271

>Hes mah leader cause muh god chose it

Are you really as stupid as a peasant?
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>>80032259
At least Monarchists aren't bolshevik anarchists.
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>>80032259
>a "commie" living in the United States calling anybody a cuck

lol

Constitutional Monarchies are the best form of government m8
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He was a 4/10 king in a tough time, but that doesn't mean he deserved to die. Never kill your king, kings are the symbol of their country.
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>>80032055
>But the way they did it, and his family? That was pure barbarism. It was an inhuman act.

Absolutely. I'm not saying the Soviets were anything less than the worst thing to happen to humanity, ever.

But it was right that he die. That's a man who was pampered in the utmost luxury from birth, while millions of his countrymen went hungry.

And then, he ordered millions of them to their deaths. He was the absolute ruler of Russia, and everything that he did was a blood-soaked failure. Why shouldn't he share the fate of all the soldiers he lead?
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>>80031711

That's obviously true. Soviets still had peasant support and basically justified everything as "tsar wouldn't reform fast enough." I guess I should have made the whole judeobolshevism component more obvious, but since OP was asking if they "deserved" it I was assuming he meant over perceived injustices and not just "yes, goy, let's seize the means of production eh eh eh"
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>>80032310
God > Man, for the glory of the Tsar and the Russia's all opposition must be killed.

Russia = Tsar, Russia /=/ a brainwashed ever changing thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EG8v2zP8s
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>>80032310

no but you are
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There is a reason the Orthodox church made him into a Saint.
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>>80032223
Russia really is an interesting place. Must be odd or difficult wrestling with such a complex and emotional history.
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>>80032341
Only the strong survive bitch
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>>80032634
very interesting
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Why is Russia such a fucking hard place to rule?
in the span of 100 years its undergone like 3 governmental changes and is still going
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>>80032677
Try filthy retarded bolshevik, the peoples army will exterminate Marxism and open the gates to the Tsar.
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>>80030564
Agreed. Why the fuck should I be feeding some King and his family? Fuck them. Slaughter them and their children.

Monarchists love cuckolding so much they want their political system to do it to them.
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>>80032796

4 - Czar/Provisional Government/Soviets/Democracy

And it's because Russia is really fucking big, and full of different ethnicities and religions who don't get along. The only reason it ever became one country is by force of arms.
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>>80031973
>can't believe
Why not? Christian nations worship Jews, believe that the health and success of Jews is key to their own entrance into a theoretical afterlife utopia. Jewish revolutionaries move through that type of environment like a hot knife through butter.
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>>80032925
Why the fuck should I be feeding some Bolshevik and his family? Fuck them. Slaughter them and their children.

If Bolsheviks love destruction and money so much we should give them a crown of gold.
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>>80031776
> those digits
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>>80032514
>>80032507
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How many here actually realize that it was ethnic Jews who organized and also butchered the Tzar family?
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>>80033018
You realize your Protestantism /=/ Christianity?
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>2016
>Still buying the the republicanism meme
CMON
M
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>>80032420
>millions of his countrymen went hungry
>he ordered millions of them to their deaths

No one was starving until food shortages during WWI, but it's true that most Russians were peasants living in relative poverty even before war broke out.

It's tempting to think of Nicholas as being indifferent to their plight, but the truth was that he was literally ignorant of it. People like his wife and fellow nobles convinced him that he had a god-given right to rule and that the little people needed a "father"/king or they'd be lost. So he ruled not out of bloodlust, but because he was practically brainwashed from birth to believe a Czarist Russia was best for everyone.

As for WWI, his back was against the wall. His alliances practically forced him into it. And no one had any inkling that WWI would go on as long as it did, so it's not as if the deaths of millions was a foregone conclusion.

None of this excuses his failings, I agree. And he definitely deserved to be overthrown. But to argue that he was genuinely evil is simply wrong. He was a product of his time, but that time was coming to an end--and he lacked the ability to adapt.
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>>80032925
yeah instead we should spoon feed a oligarchic elite of Jews (totally not the bourgeois i swear :p) while we all starve to death on the rations they give us proles :D
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>>80033023
I piss freedom
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>>80032412
>Never kill your king, kings are the symbol of their country.
KEK
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>>80033078
You're brainwashed to believe republicanism is best for the people, anti monarchist thought is not allowed.
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Did the Tsar have anyone on his families side?
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>>80033050
shhhh making the Bolshevism = Judaism connection would make you a bad goy
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>>80033033
>>80033033
I'll be back
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>>80033162
Filthy Jews, we will destroy you all.
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>>80033162
They are? Every country that's killed its king went to shit immediately afterwards.
See: France, Russia, UK, even fucking Brazil
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>>80033090
Kill them too.

I don't see the issue here.
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>>80030241
>Ordered troops to open fire on starving civilians for protesting a shit war causing lack of resources

Fuck him. His family didn't deserve it, though.
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>>80033050
It sure as hell wasn't the workers who the Tsar protected from rootless exploiters.
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>>80033304
you can't kill them you dumb goy..lol you took off your imaginary meme chains and now you put on real chains
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>>80033312
Kike
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>>80033205
Not only by loose bolshevism connection,but the actual people who orchestrated and carried out the killings were ethnic and religious Jews, even though they're a tiny minority in Russia at the time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Yurovsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
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I just got fucking mad everytime I remember this.

Before I knew about this I was neutral about Comunism, I even liked it but now I fucking hate that shitty ideology, once I punched a commie face in the street.

Fuck, fuck every single communist.
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>>80032410
communism is misunderstood
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>>80033455
>communism is misunderstood

no it's pretty well understood by observing 69 years of this bureaucratic mess
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>>80033021
Because at least the other Bolshevik feeds you and your children. The King just fucks your wife while you say thank you.

And if you don't like that perhaps your feedback can be incorporated in a democratic process. Good luck doing that with a king. You transgendered faggot.
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>>80030241

Vodka niggnoggs being niggnogging.

The Tsar himself _MAYBE_ deserved the death penalty, after due process. He certainly was responsible for a lot of death, so the argument could have been made.

But, the vodka niggers went full Trump and slaughtered the entire family. Because. Chimping vodka niggnoggs only know how to do an niggnogg chimpout.

Never forget: this is a crystal clear example of how Russians, as a subspecies of slav, behave.

They often fool you by having light-colored skin. But you're an idiot to let yourself be deceived. Always know your nigger, no matter the color of its skin.
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>>80033455
It wont be understood at all because it will be burned and anyone displaying anything from it will be shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELrtx8NxoU
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Nicholas Romanov is a good example of why Christianity is so bad for people. He had several opportunities made ready for his escape by the SRs before the Bolsheviks took over custody and he refused because he felt GOD would save them. He got himself and his whole family and servants murderated.
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>>80033267
Keep living in fantasy land goy. Ever heard of the samson option? Now shut your anti semitic mouth and learn to get along.
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>>80032796
>Why is Russia such a fucking hard place to rule?
- Largest country in the world, lots of isolated areas which are difficult to govern from one central authority.
- Surrounded by potential enemies on all sides, has been subjected to brutal invasions for most of their history.
- Extremely harsh climate. Russia used to and still does suffer from regular food shortages.
- Russia is both European and a category of its own. There's always been a deep cultural divide between the "westernisers" and "slavophiles".
- Was subject to western/Jewish subversion throughout the 20th Century.
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>>80033078
>But to argue that he was genuinely evil is simply wrong.

I never said he was evil, just brutal and stupid, unlike his very effective predecessors who were brutal and intelligent.

He bore direct responsibility, through his endless bungling stupidity, for the end of the Russian Empire and the horrible deaths of millions of his subjects -- and through the end of the Russian Empire the rise of Soviet Communism and the deaths of 100 million innocents around the world. I can think of no more disastrous a king or emperor, for world history, than Nicholas II. We're STILL living in the fallout of his failure.

A volley of machine gun bullets is a fair death for a man who caused such bloodshed, suffering, and misery, and who failed so totally.
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>>80033533
The Tsar feeds me and the Tsar protects the people, "democracies" have no obligation or truths, but yes having referendums to see the current state and wants of the people is beneficial.
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>>80033533
> Bolshevik feeds you

LOOOOOOOOL
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>>80030241

Fuck no. Every last Communist must die.
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>>80033526
>b-but it wasn't truly communism

Communism = Death
Really simple.
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>>80033171
Of course republicanism is best. Do you have any examples of a modern, prosperous nation that isn't democratic?
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>>80033628
If you see the one who calls themselves egalitarians, that says they know what you want, that says that what you want is false, the one that declares that your rights have no value, shoot him.
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>>80033384
Nice (((argument))) goy. If it was your granny he had gunned down for wanting bread you'd feel differently. Just because the people that came after him were shit doesn't mean he wasn't also shit.
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>>80033533
Say that to Ukranians, fucking kike.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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>>80033697
>Russia used to and still does suffer from regular food shortages
Really? They still do?
Just weird to think a political powerhouse/bully like them can't even get enough trade for food, or produce it
My example I was gonna use was China but they had food shortages due to mismanagement during their revolution, and they're only Communist in name only right?
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>>80033846
>Conflating republicanism and democracy
Have you heard of the UK?
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>Daily remainder that the commie fags you see around your colleges and universities are the sort of useful idiots who'll more than happily shoot young girls in a dingy basement if their communist leaders tell them to do it.
>Not only that but they'll make a mess of it, causing them to die slowly and painfully.

Commies piss me off desu.
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>>80033759
The Soviets at least civilized the Latvians, Estonians and Ukrainians. To whatever extent they could. Those people where animals and are now starting to become them again without the Soviets in charge.
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>>80033669
when we come for you all and toss all you in prisons, then we will see what is the fantasy.
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Nick sure as fuck did, stupid cuck

The girls & alexei were innocent & should have been spared however, olga & tatiana were even nurses, not spoiled brats or anything, in fact they didn't even know how to go shopping
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>>80034067
The Soviet did not civilize anybody you stupid stupid stupid ignorant American
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>>80033986
Western Ukrainians were Nazis. They deserved every death they got. And that Holodomor is overstated. Much like the Holocaust.
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>>80000000
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>>80034189
Judeo-Bolsheviks deserve every death.
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>>80034189
Oh hi Shlomo
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>>80034189
>They deserved every death they got.

>Genocide Is Ok only if we do that

Literally go fuck yourself.
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>>80033797
The Monarch has no obligation to you or his country. Why would you think he does?
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>>80034067
>civilized the Latvians and Estonians

Those were former hanseatic lands and the best and most developed regions of Russian empire by far, you either have no clue what you're yapping about or you're some headfucked vatnik immigrant.
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>>80034017
Republicanism is a form of representative democracy. The UK's system of elected MPs is also a form of representative democracy. Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Any what the hell does a powerless figurehead like the Queen have to do with anything?

Go back to school.
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Did he deserve to die? No. Was he a fucking cuck and a horrible Tsar? Yes.
He was the main reason why the glorious Empire turned into the horrible USSR.
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>>80034462
>queen
>powerless

oh boy, just because she doesn't use her powers doesn't mean shes powerless
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>>80033993
The shortages haven't been at starvation levels for a while, but the Russian agricultural economy is still hugely behind the rest of the world.
http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-food-sanctions-2015-meat-cheese-shortage-feared-amid-eu-embargo-over-ukraine-2169613
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> deserve to die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDkYZWeeVg
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>>80034091
>Royalist Army of the people
>15 million rural soldiers of Russia for the rebirth of the nation
>Royalist Army of the people
>29 million rural soldiers of the USA for the rebirth of an Anglo-Saxon kingdom
>Royalist Army of France
>7 million rural soldiers of France for the rebirth of the nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bdz6tEf1-A
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>>80030241
No, but tell that to kikery.
>crown
>not sitting above a hooked nose
>KILL
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>>80034462
Republics and monarchies are mutually exclusive. Just because there are democratically elected representatives does not make a system republican.

btw Lizzy could dissolve parliament and rule as dictator if she wanted to.
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>>80034623
The Phoenix Pact.
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>>80030241
He was unfit to rule he kept listening to his wife.
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>>80034753
"Democracy" means the will of the people, the "democratic" system is anti-democratic and simply chains to the powers at be to turn your will into theirs.
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>>80031911

Man, it's almost like the Germans had Casus Belli
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>>80030241
>Did they deserve to die?

He was a nice guy, unfit to be what a russian emperor should be, a brute iron fist.

Also he didnt trust anyone, only Rasputin and he wasnt the besteht advisor all the time, mainly because of simonovitchs influence.
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>>80030241

How much for thee women?
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>>80034866
That's nice. The UK still isn't a republic.
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>>80034866
The very fact the masses of people are educated and subject to the powers at be's systems and way of thought is anti-democratic in nature.
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>>80035057
2-3 bullets each
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>>80035157
Anastasia got stabbed, fucking animals.
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>>80035219
good movie though

the animated one with the talking rats
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>>80035057
I want to buy your women. The girls, your daughters.
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>>80035219
Yes. It must have felt good. Wish I could have been there.
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>>80035100
You don't have a will of your own, only one that is molded by the powers.

You must choose who and how will mold you and your posterity, will you choose capitalist profit, communist non sense, or blood and soil King bound to your people as its fist.
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>>80035219
They are commies. What did you expect?
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>>80035269
Just shut the fuck up.
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>>80030564
Is this where the term "edgy" came from?
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>>80034866
>>80035100
>>80035304
anon wtf are you doing
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Did he have anyone actually loyal to him other then his family?
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>>80034944

>a brute iron fist

but he was just that, why do you think there was revolution?
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>>80035256
Anastasia sucked utter cock.

>film about the slaughter of the royal family
>Jewish bolsheviks or even commies per se aren't even mentioned
>no, it was fucking ZOMBIE RASPUTIN who killed the tzar

Director: Gary Goldman. Can't make this shit up.
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>>80034866
The Marxist system is the most "anti-democratic" system in the world.
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>>80035490
Well they had a civil war, so I'd assume a couple were
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>invite peasant into home because son is sick
>said peasant cucks king and starts running the country behind the scenes.

They were total pushovers. Too weak to run a household let alone a continental power.
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>>80035490
2,400,000 White Russian soldiers.
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>>80035542
it was a kids movie anon
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>>80035522
No, he was a cuck who had no idea how his country works. His wife and Rasputin told him what to do and he listened. His dumb mistakes and his inability to rule Russia caused the revolution.
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If the people in Russia wanted equal wealth, the Tsar could comply, although the nobles and bourgeois such as the Communists would object.
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>>80033986
Ukranians and slavs aren't white though. Even Hitler said so.
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>>80035717
>the unshot bolshevik is talking
What is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrLItMb9VqA
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>>80035652
So it's acceptable to complete falsify history and wash all the blood off Jewish hands just because it's a kids movie?

Real nice nigga, next time they make an animated series about Jesus they better make sure he is crucified by the KKK.
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>>80035780
Hitler was autistic, the German military high command wasn't

A lot of Slavs fought under the Wehrmacht against Stalin and the USSR.
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>>80035780
Hitler never even used the word white or non-white you divisive kike.
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>>80035871
bruh im on your side
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>>80035852
>the unshot bolshevik is talking
Fucking kill yourself. The bolsheviks stole my family's manor and land. I hate them more than anyone in this goddamn couuntry. I'm stating the facts. The video you linked does nothing to prove your point.
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When you see the Un-Shot Bolshe, you shoot him, you kill his father, his mother, all his educators, and every person in contact of him.

There can be no mercy in this struggle for survival or extermination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpEEwZBcmJg
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commies should've let at least two or three of the Tsar's family live. Monarchy is a part of eurofag identity and culture whether you like it or not.

Removing the whole bloodline was a big mistake.
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Reminder Stalin killed most of the Jews responsible for killing them, if it makes you feel any better

Trotsky ran off to Mexico to escape Stalin's wrath, still got a hammer smashed into his head
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Yes, absolutely.
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>>80036150
Some of the Romanovs are still around, just not Nicholas and his immidiate descendants.
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Russia had a revolution because life sucked for everyone but the aristocracy. You might bitch about globalism and being a NEET today, but 100 years ago the average person was living a completely shit life. Pic related imagine if that was your job just so you could get enough wormy bread to survive for the next day.

You can actually thank the Russian Revolution for the growth of the middle class. After the western elites saw the consequences of shitting all over average people they were a lot more open to sharing the wealth.
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>>80036438
absolute shit life here, am I right Chaim?
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>>80036438
Conditions under the Tsar were much better than the Gommie Regime.

If Nicholas was actually smart and avoided World War I.

Russia would have had been in a better situation with their growing industries at the time.
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>>80036438
>Jewish revolution in Russia
>good for the Russians
They were stripped of land and all property and placed in prison communities, tens of millions of workers aka farmers were killed and sacked.

There is no discussion, only brutal unrelenting war, Marxism must be exterminated.

If you want all my gold, have it but not under a Marxist system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzoBY2FZmo
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>>80035871
The director was Don Bluth & it was done by Fox, it wasn't kikes

Originally it was suppose to be much darker, but Fox really wanted a Disney princess movie, cause Hollywood
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>>80036438
Kike lies. The abolition of serfdom in the 1860s allowed for greater social mobility and by 1912 many of the formerly landless serfs worked their way into being kulaks, basically a class of peasants with land and estates. What did Lenin and Stalin do with the kulaks? Labeled them all enemies of the state, took all their property, shoved them into labor camps and starved them to death by tens of thousands.

Middle class my ass, fucking Jew.
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>>80036841
Also the villain wasn't Rasputin, but some commie hitman
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>>80036157
WTF i love stalin now
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>>80035522
>
>>a brute iron fist

>but he was just that, why do you think there was revolution?

Because of the establishment, the long lasting slavery and because so many people where to poor to even buy clothes..
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>>80037929
>1917
>slavery

Good job swallowing the bolshevik propaganda.
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>>80037929
If Nicholas II had an iron fist there wouldn't have been a revolution
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>>80037929
You can't be this retarded.

Mining 645.000
Construction 1.600.000
Small industries 3.706.000
Commerce 865.000
Household 3.000.000
Menial laborers 2.500.000
State-owned armaments, shipbuilding, etc. 1.500.000
Approximate total 15.000.000

For ideological reasons, liberal and leftist commentators avert their gaze from Russia’s vast internal empire of state-owned enterprises in armaments and shipbuilding plants, railroads, railroad repair shops, and mines, not to mention other categories of similar labor, creating large undercounts of industrial workers. Both sides concentrate on private enterprise, liberals because it signifies the growth of the free market and leftists because the free market signifies capitalist exploitation. Regardless, workers themselves made no such distinction: they lived in the same quarters, intermarried, had the same specialties, utilized the same types of machines and tools, received similar pay, joined the same organizations (political, cultural, economic), and struck in unison and marched in the same demonstrations. According to the most inclusive (but not exhaustive) existing count, Russia’s working class (all categories) as of the war’s outbreak reached between 25 million and 26 million men, women, and children (see Table 2).[4] A more restrictive count that includes only workers in factories (state and privately-owned), small industrial enterprises, construction, mining, and railroads, in other words industrial workers of all types (as opposed to household, agricultural, commercial, and menial laborers) approached 15 million persons. Overall, in reality more than 26 million persons in Russia earned their living through manual wage labor.
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>>80030241
>so many Americucks supporting monarchies
you truly are the most cucked people on Earth
>b-but me need big strong man to lead me!!!!1!
kill yourselves
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>>80038066
>>1917
>>slavery

>Good job swallowing the bolshevik propaganda.

56 years is not much and freedom is worth a pile of shit when you dont have the ability to even feed and dress your family. The situation for the lowest class was really horrible and it didnt change to much after the Revolution only after Stalins death the Situation got better.
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>>80038150
True. Louis XVI made the same mistake of thinking you can reasonably negotiate with the leftard revolutionary rabble, it's impossible. Either you crush them in the beginning or they end up murdering you and your family.
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>>80038560
This, no discussions we know what is good.
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>>80038518
>"Oh yes Secretary General! those monarchists are such cucks now where are those 2 grains of rice you promised me for saying this!"
>-gets gulaged by nkvd-
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>>80038545
You really have no idea. When Lenin started his "war communism", many peasants got scared thinking a "second serfdom" was coming and they were right. Their property earned by years of hard labor taken away and people literally herded into labor camps like cattle into paddocks where they would work for free. Bolshevism unlike Nicholas' rule was LITERAL slavery.
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>>80036697
>People protest peacefully to increase democratic reforms
>Tsar has them shoot at by Cossacks, Bloody Sunday
>Gives reforms but immediately rescinds them through the issuing of the Fundamental State Laws
>Fucks up Stolypin's reforms which allowed for wealth distribution
>Brought Russia into WWI
>Allowed Tsarina to head the government
>Allowed Rasputin to cuck him and influence Tsarina
>Lost support of all the classes
>Personally commanded the army which allowed for multiple, massive defeats
>Refused to gives concessions during the massive strikes in St Petersburg
>Allowed for sections of the army to join the strikes turning it into a revolution
>Abdicated and tried to flee like a bitch

what a faggot
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>>80038755
>i have the right to rule because god said so
shouldn't you be prepping your bull right now Hank?
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>>80030241
they could have at least spared tommen desu
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>>80038926
Are you a monarchy which formed Russia 2,000 years ago?
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>>80038825
>You really have no idea. When Lenin started his "war communism", many peasants got scared thinking a "second serfdom" was coming and they were right. Their property earned by years of hard labor taken away and people literally herded into labor camps like cattle into paddocks where they would work for free. Bolshevism unlike Nicholas' rule was LITERAL slavery.

Collektivism is a sort of slavery, that is right. And as I mentioned, the situation got better after Stalins death, forced communism is bullshit.
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What are some good books to read about the revolution and the russian royal family?
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>>80031439
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Please stop, that joke was to good!
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>>80039077
>reading anti monarchist republican and marxist propaganda
Do your own research on the truth.
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>>80030241

Considering that guy is the only reason we even exist today, absolutely not.
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>>80038518
We had friendly relations with Imperial Russia. The Bolsheviks wanted to kill us and a lot of the problems we have today are the result of KGB agents and their ideological subversion tactics.

The monarchy was better than communism and in time it likely would have turned into something like other European monarchies.
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>>80039178
Jesus the shit he went through to do his duty as Emperor of all the Russia's and defender of slavs.
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>>80030241
The Russians chose some inbred Jews over them and Russia got what it deserved.
It's still a poor shithole that was robbed and had the smart people killed off.
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>>80039188
Well sorry to say anon
>>80038854
If you read this then you'll find that the Tsar was a faggot that couldn't read any situation. Revolution (whether it be Jacobin or Communist) was inevitable. The guy was an incompetent fool, and his rein was always going to end disastrously
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Just saying...
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>>80039351
Where is your proof?
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>>80039077
>What are some good books to read about the revolution and the russian royal family?

The allmighty peasent>>80039351
>Well sorry to say anon
>If you read this then you'll find that the Tsar was a faggot that couldn't read any situation. Revolution (whether it be Jacobin or Communist) was inevitable. The guy was an incompetent fool, and his rein was always going to end disastrously

Yep, he was not fit for his position.
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>>80039500
Proofs?
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>>80039447
The fact Russia had a revolution is proof that the Tsar Nicholas was a fucking numbskull. He couldn't run a nation, he couldn't understand or sympathize with his subjects and he couldn't command shit. If say, he were good at all of those things, he very well may have secured a long and prosperous rule. This did not happen.
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>>80039584
>Bloody Sunday
>Lena Goldfields
>Sino-Russo War
>WW1
>St Petersburg revolts and eventual revolution
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>>80038854
Rasputin cucking the tsar is a meme myth spread by Yusupov and his buddies, much like the myths about him having a 20 inch cock and magically surviving three straight assassination attempts even though autopsy proved he died of a gunshot wound. All propaganda trying to make him into some kind of a demonic entity even though he was just a shitty mystic charlatan much like the New Age "spiritual healers" of today.
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>>80039633
>The fact Russia had a revolution is proof that the Tsar Nicholas was a fucking numbskull. He couldn't run a nation, he couldn't understand or sympathize with his subjects and he couldn't command shit. If say, he were good at all of those things, he very well may have secured a long and prosperous rule. This did not happen.
That's not proofs, if Aus went to war and was overextended and some Fascists lead an army and strikes/revolts, then the Fascists will take the power.
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A good man but a shitty tsar. Plus he was the bitch of his marriage.
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>>80039709
>Sino-Russo War
This literally was nothing.

>WW1
This wasn't good for anyone and everyone joined in.
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>>80030241
No but killing them was a wise decision.
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>>80039718
He did cuck the Tsarina though, he made sure his favorite ministers were put in charge of the Duma. This is well documented. He might of not actually "cucked" her, but he had tremendous influence over her.
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>>80039848
Another unshot bolshevik jew.
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>>80039837
>Russo-Japanese War
>Russia loses immense prestige
>Massive military revolts
>Tsar has to issue October Manifesto to calm down populace
Its called the 1905 revolution for a reason
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>>80040029
It's a vietnam war, asian colonial politics, it literally wasn't important.
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>>80030241
Nicolas had it coming for being such an incompetant fucktard, but his wife and kids didn't.

>>80030564
Based Fellow American
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>>80039584
>Proofs?

He drank to much, he was unable to make own decisions, he didnt trust anyone except Rasputin. He was just a mere puppet for anyone with enough influence over him. Many of his decisions, mainly the ones wich had to do with jewish pogroms and nominations of ministers where organized by Simonovitch, wich had Rasputin as his enforcer because he simply gave him a apartment in St. Petersburg and a nice amount of money to finance his life and offered him help when he needed it.
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>>80040213
proofs?
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>>80040152
>not important
Its a direct cause of the 1905 revolution. Therefore, it is.
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>>80040244
>proofs?

Proof that my words are not true. :P
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>>80030755
No it's '1 emperor 1 empire 1 God'
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>>80040292
>an irrelevant far eastern conflict caused Bolshevism
The Jews were always there.
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>>80040390
Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies)
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>>80031092
I'll agree with you that the execution of Nicholas was despicable but there are still romanovs today
They fled to America and were actually in contact with hitler to rule as vassals once he had destroyed Russia
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>>80030241
>tfw no Anastasia Romanov gf
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>>80031130
Constitutional monarchy is the most stable form of government it's why we so rarely have riots over here
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>>80040492
>once he had destroyed Russia
USSR is the enemy of Russia and Russians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxTbfeYdO0
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>a bunch of latvians and kikes brings a dynasty that has ruled over the largest country in the world for hundreds of years to its end
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>>80031366
>found the jew

More like red-blooded American Patriot.

Daily Reminder that we almost made it illegal for American citizens to hold titles of nobility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment
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>>80040589
Really makes you think.
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>>80040638
>almost

fuck off cuck
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>>80040482
>Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (the burden of proof is on the one who declares, not on one who denies)

Hmm, not ultimatly true but if you read some books from that era wich describe his characteristics and his relationship to Rasputin you'll get the Idea that he was simply unfit to rule Russia. And to the whole question if he deserved that.. well not really and his children really did not deserve to die like this.
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>>80040726
if you read some books from that era wich describe his characteristics and his relationship to Rasputin you'll get the Idea that he was simply unfit to rule Russia.

Books are not proofs, proofs are proofs.
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>>80031350
No Germany is what makes it a world war. Literally by how Russia and Austrohungaria had almost no colonies and so it was just another Balkans crisis.
The Russian army actually did quite well against both the ottomans and Austrians
It's only when Germany takes supreme command that things started to fall apart

Communism is only brought about because the provisional government continued the war and the other revolutionary parties suppourted it

Honestly study this part of history like me it's so interesting
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>>80033668
I thought he wanted to stay because one of his kids was sick or something

Where did you get this God shit from?
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>>80040777
>if you read some books from that era wich describe his characteristics and his relationship to Rasputin you'll get the Idea that he was simply unfit to rule Russia.

>Books are not proofs, proofs are proofs.

Well then we can forget a whole lot of our knowlegde.
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>>80040937
Books can be proofs but book aren't inherently proofs.
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>>80036438
Of course a frogis defending that imbecile revolutiom.
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>>80032341
>Bolshevik anarchist
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>>80040505

Unless you're a member of a Royal House or in that shitty and brazenly offensive Don Bluth movie about her, she's not gonna be interested in you anon.
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>>80031350

This man gets it. Alexander the first was total bro tier but Nikolai the second was total fucking loser. Shows how authoritan rule can lead to golden age or total destruction.
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>there are people who will unironically defend Nicky II and his disastrous rule
Commies were shit, but Nicholas was just as shit. He deserved it. His family though, not.
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>>80034321
>The Monarch has no obligation to you or his country. Why would you think he does?

nobody ever implied there was an obligation. but a good monarch who actually wants to rule well will listen to the people's needs
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There was a cat that, really, was gone tho.
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>>80030241
No. He was a good man, but very naive when it came to actually ruling. Left the palace for the frontlines to inspire his soldiers, meanwhile, Rasputin gets let loose in the household.
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>>80043052
Rasputin did nothing wrong
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>>80041326
Anya was the ugly one, shes only famous cause people think she survived

Tatiana was the 10/10 one
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>>80030241
No.
Fuck the GODDAMN COMMIES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
AMERICA
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>>80030241
yes
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>>80031350
This

Based Leaf

Nicolas II's rule was bungled from the very beginning.

His own coronation turned into a bloodbath.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khodynka_Tragedy

He had that disastrous war with the Japs in '04, massacred protesting workers on Blood Sunday, turned a blind eye to pogroms (which led Russia's Jews to embrace the lunacy of Communism and Zionism out of desperation), and then managed to eclipse all of those with his handling of World War I.

His qualities as a leader were so appalling that I can't entirely blame the Russian people for drinking the Bolshevik Kool-Aid.
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>>80033819
>>80033826
This^

>>80033846

Based American
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>>80043105

What's up with Rasputin and the weird music subculture he inspired?

I live two blocks away from a Rasputin-theme music store (pic related).
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>>80043626

No idea, but Rasputin did nothing wrong. He had magical powers, a giant dick and is probably still alive.
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>>80040404
>emperor = tsar
They called themselves emperors in the western style because after the reforms of Peter 1 considered themselves part of europe.
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>>80043807
>>80043626

Forgot pic
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