Daily reminder that we could have had a functioning healthcare system like the CIVILIZED world, but you conservashits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.
I recommend suicide, I really do. We're behind the rest of the world and its your fault.
>>79998034
ayy fug off
NHS is shit tier.
>>79998034
We could have health care if the rest of the world had any fucking military strength so we didn't have to play world police every single time
>Letting Children be the voice of reason
>>79998034
ROFL I'M NOT PAYING FOR YOUR HEALTHCARE PEDRO. SORRY!
>>79998034
That's when you pat the kid on the head, say "that's cute", then explain the economics of state monopolies and why they fail to him.
>>79998034
This is begging for a flat tax edit.
>>79998034
I'd like to wrap my hands around your neck and squeeze until the last drop of life comes out of your worthless body. Believe me, it would bring me great pleasure, just that it's a shame I won't get the chance.
Death to faggots who think we'd be better off emulating a dying Europe's social programs.
>>79998821
>Europe is dying
>America isn't
>>79998034
making someone else pay for your new liver cause you're a fucking drunk waste on society is definitely the answer.
>>79998034
ya you too could have to wait 5 hours to get into the ER where if you are lucky you get an extremely overworked white doctor who will treat you like shit
if you are unlucky you get a "doctor" from Nigeria who will not be able to speak English and will have no idea what they are doing
>One time I walked into a hospital in Toronto and the bottom floor was flooded, no one cared, government drones kept on pretending to do their jobs like nothing was happening
I don't know why people realize communism leads to misery and bread lines, but communist medicine is a great idea
>>79998376
You mean have CIA overtrow leaders all over the world, democratically elected or not, and funding """""""""""""moderate""""""""""" rebels in the process, creating the need for a world police? Yeah go USA
>>79998034
>implying the whole healthcare debacle known as obamacare wasn't designed entirely without input from republicans
HURR IT'S THEIR FAULT STUPID CONSERVASHITS HURRRRRRRRRR
Its time to edit these cartoons into rabidly racist themes.
>>79998034
Kill yourself socialist
Wow, guess i'm with her now.
>>79998622
poor and stupid need the most health care too, coincidence?
>Used to only have to pay $30 a paycheck for full coverage because it was offered to me for being a full time employee
>Obama forces Obamacare
>I was dropped down to part time to dodge having to be "required" to be offered healthcare
>Then when it became forced for everyone regardless of hours I had to pay $100+ for full coverage per paycheck, while meanwhile every Welfare Queen can get it for free because muh welfare
>Every spic and nigger that goes to the ER to waste the doctor's time and money shoot up my costs even more
>I'm now paying $30 for the absolute bare minimum insurance where they will only help me if I'm on the absolute verge of death, which in case then and only then they might give me a bandaid
>King Nigger is so upset the working class is mad about being forced to get shitty healthcare that he jacks up the price of penalties for people who refuse to get it, which is like $5000 at the end of the year if you go a year without having it
Take your universal free healthcare and shove it right the fuck up your ass
>Build a wall
A barbaric simplistic approach to a complex problem
>Single payer
Common sense
>>79998034
here we go again
>>79999153
You're next.
>>79998034
Daily reminder that Horsey threads are in the same tier along with
>/pol/ BTFO
>what did he mean by this?
>really makes you think
>>79998034
>implying Europe is a model for anything
The writing is on the fucking wall dude. Europe is going to hell in a handbasket. Right now we need to be talking about moving forward in a world where Europe has irrelevant geopolitical pull.
We need to be figuring out the exact reasons democracy failed. Because you're fucking delusional if you think the current political paradigm is going to last much longer. The world is going to be a whole lot different in the coming years and we have a lot of shit to figure out, none of which are your pathetic progressive causes that are going to feel pretty darn petty a few years from now
>>79999153
Feel free to pay for your own defense anytime. I'll await your desperate texts when Russia invades and you realize your military budget was just solider cosplay.
You want "Free" healthcare? Immigrate to a country that offers it.
Problem solved fuckhead.
>>79998034
Who gets to define civilized? What makes a country civilized? Are you saying that only civilized countries are white countries? Considering there's no universal healthcare in African tribes, yet you're saying they're not civilized? What are you, a racist?
>>79998034
No.fuck off.grow up and get a big boy job that offers actual insurance.
>>80001244
This.
>>79999153
Look I'm no fan of US imperialism but you Europeans are fucking delusional about your place in the world. The ONLY thing keeping Russia from having its way with Europe is the United States. And increasingly the only reason we give a shit about Europe is the UK. But it turns out that they aren't so European after all.
The real reason Europe collectivly lost its shit over brexit is because Europe is truely on its own from here on out. We'll salvage western civilization without you ungrateful cucks. Have fun being Russia's bitch
>>79998034
You're a liar. When Obongo was pushing for his healthcare, in 2010 it was the 111th United States Congress. See pic related, fuckface.
>>80001244 absofucklutely right man. I concur.
I just saw this today for my wife's surgery and overnight stay.
Yay, the system works, I guess.
>>80001997
>Russian military
>effective outside of Russia
The UK could resist any Russian invasion and fuck them up.
Americans are the ones deluding themselves into thinking that Europeans don't know how to wage war
>>79998034
>>80002991
You guys don't. We had to end both your wars for you.
Socialized healthcare is terrible.
Look at the statistics that show how much better american healthcare is.
Yeah its expensive, but you're supposed to have a job.
Why make healthy people pay for the sick when in 2016 most of the sickness relates to poor lifestyle choices?
I find it hilarious how people don't value highly skilled health labor. They will pay top dollar for the most frivolous of shit and someone saves their life or greatly improves their quality of life they get mad when they have to pay them money...
>>80003557
>implying
Soviets were pushing back the tattered remains of the German army and we were winning every attempt to put German troops on British soil despite have less equipment and less soldiers.
We probably couldn't have launched a counter attack and taken Berlin without the US, but Britain was never going to fall
I'm a NEET so I get free everything anyway
Thanks Obama
>>79998034
ya, real life details always seem to get in the way of your utopian dreams don't they you naive cunt?
>>79998034
The AHA was passed unilaterally by democrats. Look it up ignorantfag.
>Democrats have majorities in the House and Senate, and control of the White House.
>Still too softcocked to just push through single payer whether the Republicans like it or not.
Even if you agree with the Democrats, they're simply to fucking weak to ever do anything of value to you.
>>80003662
we already have it. You go to emergency room you get care. Just ends up costing more because you're afraid of the word "socialist." You can't leave your safespace.
>>79998183
NHS may not be what the poster meant by "civilized"
>>80001042
>blew your military budget paying for dude free shit
>>79998376
yeah everyone wants you to "police" the world and you do such a good job of it when you do actually bother to do something
>>80004055
republicans control the house boss.
>>79999043
Actually, I doubt any health system will put a new liver in an alcoholic; we don't. Same as smokers are always lowest on the list for lungs, meaning they will never get them. (I don't mean 'former smokers' or 'recovering alcoholics'.)
>>79999043
People who made bad decisions get put in the back of the list, for example, smokers always get put in the back of list, drinkers get put in the back of the list for liver transplants and shit like that.
Most of your objections about nationalized healthcare are simply due to ignorance
>>79999540
>poor and stupid need the most health care too
you mean women?
>Women's costs are higher, and they live longer, yet Obamacare will charge men the same for health-insurance premiums
http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/23/women-should-pay-more-for-health-care/
>>80004346
Democrats controlled the house in 2009 when this shit happened dumdum.
>American education.
>>79998034
>but you conservashits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.
Lol
Socialized medicalcare to "fix" the system we have is like the government breaking your leg and then giving you a crutch (which it bought with money from your pocket) and then government convincing you that without it you wouldn't be able to walk.
The issue has always been government period.
http://www.freenation.org/a/f12l3.html
http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-541-just-how-much-has-government-screwed-up-health-care-an-er-doctor-explains-and-tells-us-how-to-fix-it/
>tfw just went to the doctor and got medicine for under $12
>>80004087
>Ends up costing more
When I was still on my parents insurance I would just give the ER fake information and pay nothing
>>80004381
>>80004399
That would never work in America then. People would not stand for unequal access regardless of what people did to screw up.
How do liberals kill themselves when they don't own guns?
Do they go get "enlightened" by the superior negro in the hood?
>>80004473
learn the difference between present and past tense then dumbass.
>>80002991
I worded it poorly. You guys aren't cucks and do actually pull your own weight in the world. My point was that the US and UK are the only reason Europe has any geopolitical relevance. The post-Brexit world inevitably will shift the UK interests to be more aligned with the US than with Europe. Europe might not literally be conquered by Putin but they are inevitably going to be forced to submit to him to some degree. Europe just isn't worth the US or UK time anymore
>>79998034
>I recommend suicide
Funnily enough, that would be the recommendation of the death panels for most ills if ever the system implied by state-run HC was fully imposed on the people.
>>80004514
Why bother? You'll be found dead at your desk at 35.
>>80004558
Hey retard we already do that in America, if you're a drunk piece of shit you're not getting a liver
>>80004558
>american exceptionalism
>It may work for the rest of the world, but it may not work for USA
>Why?
>Because it's USA baby!
> People would not stand for unequal access
How do your organ transplants lists work?
>>80004514
>dad's healthcare stuff changed so he no longer pays for one of his medications but still gets the gift certificate that comes with it
>basically gets paid 50 bucks to pick up his medicine
feels good considering how much shit he's been through before now
>>80004724
....my raging alcoholic 2nd cousin got multiple livers.
>>80004701
Fair enough
>>79998034
Fuck you, I'm not paying my hard earned money for the poor. I have a job lined up that will provide me my health care.
Get a job or join the military lazy shits.
>>80004836
why does he need more than one
>>80004836
>Only in USA
How? Are you guys swiming in livers?
>>79998034
FDR and Truman were Democrats. They ruined US health insurance. LBJ, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Obama made it even worse. Clinton also tried to make it worse but was blocked.
>>80004911
>Fuck you, I'm not paying my hard earned money for the poor.
You already do
>>80003793
Russia had a much easier time pushing back the Germans because American bombers actually flew in the fucking daylight and hit strategic target. Kind of hard to keep up a war when your industrial base gets keked. Meanwhile the Brits just flew at night and firebombed entire cities instead of doing anything actually useful.
Furthermore, US involvement meant the Russkies stopped at Berlin, and not fucking Gibraltar.
>>80004657
>how does greentext work.
>>>/reddit/
>>80003793
You're deluded if you think the Russians would have stopped at Berlin without the United States.
You'd have a Soviet Sickle and Hammer flying from Big Ben by 1946.
>>79998034
This is true. Hopefully the GOP will implode this election and we can get to work on making this country not suck.
Don't get me wrong, conservatives tend to be right about some "human nature" things (giving children discipline, men and women being different, ...) but they have literally no clue when it comes to economics and making a country actually work.
>>79998034
>Sabotage the whole thing
>Democratic super majority in house and Senate
>>79998034
Look man, some people just deserve to die. With Universal healthcare no one would die and that would create a world of regression and no one would advance, because there would be no fear.
>>79998940
Says a fucking Swede
>>80004938
graft rejection
>>79998034
Dems had the chance to pass single payer.
Instead, they chose corporate welfare.
>>79998034
We could have a perfectly fine welfare state if we just deported all the blacks but you libshits had to go and sabotage the whole thing.
>>80005031
Very little though. I live in a state that is constantly fucking over the public school systems finding to save the tax payer money and to feed private schools.
It's pretty great.
>>80005037
>the reason Russia pushed back the Germans wasn't because the Germans were starving and freezing to death by the thousands
>Canada
>war
No
>>80005118
>implying
We beat the Germans and we can beat the Russians. Ruskies are useless once they actually leave Russia and their surprise winters aren't an asset anymore.
Russia never taken western Europe and never will
They don't have the men, the intelligence, the tactics or the support.
>>80005234
>With Universal healthcare no one would die
>He is actually saying current US system leaves people out of healthcare and dooms them to die
>>79998940
How does it feel to have Muslims penetrating your women, swedecuck?
Btw I love Swedish people, but Swedes say there is no swedish culture and that immigrants > swedes so... ultimate cucks
>>79998034
dear effeminate American, the reason you don't have government funded medical service and we do here in Canada, is because you have the most badass army on the planet, and that shit costs money. And because you have the most badass army on the planet, we don't need to have much of an army at all, and can spend our shit on government funded medical services. Thank you for making Canadians think our country is good because we made it that way, America is the hero we need.
>>80005381
>surprise winters
>It's a surprise there is a nasty winter in Russia
>They don't have the men
They had
>>80005367
It wasa the funking slave owners who wanted to niggers to stay
>>79998183
fip bip
>>79998034
How is natural selection going to work if we keep everyone alive, you dumb shit? America is ahead of the curve.
>>80005581
>How does it feel to have Muslims penetrating your women, swedecuck?
>American cuck fetishs
I bet you masturbate furiously to interracial porn.
>>80005656
How is vacation?
>>80005381
You can sit on your high horse all you want, but remember your best general was the reason for Operation Market Garden.
Even when you had your boot on Germany's throat you managed to trip.
The UK in WW2 was incompetent. The only reason Africa was won was because Italy was an even bigger shit show. You got kicked off France with little effort and you couldn't have launched D-day without American bodies. The only thing that went right was your Air Force.
But please go on about how you would have held off the Red Horde for the rest of time.
>>80005656
A FUCKING LEAF!
>>80004193
Ours is shit too
I'm poor as fuck and forced to go private for decent mental health
Insurance is the best
>>79998034
>>80005513
>>He is actually saying current US system leaves people out of healthcare and dooms them to die
Which is true... I think conservatives are OK with this. You know, supporting the culture of life and all
>>80005656
>you have the most badass army on the planet, and that shit costs money
Fucking retarded. Our system costs $9k/capita, british costs $3k/capita.
6k*300million = 1.8TRILLION dollars we're literally wasting on our system that doesn't even work well. Just because it comes out of our income instead of our taxes doesn't make it any cheaper.
>>80005978
>yfw all the WHO health care rankings that put europoor countries above USA have a heavily weighted category in their metric for "% of people covered", which obviously gives socialists country a 100 and the US a sub 100 score because of useless niggers that don't work. This category offsets the FACT that all top hospitals, researchers, and surgeons are in the US and that the US has the highest survival rates for ALL serious ailments BY FAR
>>79998034
>>80005978
>2000-2002
>figures for france not available
>no source
>equates nationalized healthcare with socialism
Now that we stopped with the children memes, let's look at numbers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
Americans spend much more in healthcare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
USA has 3rd world life expetancy (below my country, lol).
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/worldwide-cancer/mortality#heading-Zero
USA has shit cancer mortality
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/all-cancers/by-country/
another link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate
USa has 3rd world infant mortality rate, well below my country (lol) who spends less then a third per capita in healthcare.
>>80006177
>our system that doesn't even work well
The United States has the best medical system in the world.
If you have a modest income, you have, BY FAR, the best chance of survival in the US. Stop jerking off to Michael Moore movies and get a job. You'll be fine and you aren't going to go bankrupt unless you literally stroll into the ER needing a quadruple bypass.
>>80006319
You realize our cancer survival numbers are inflated by doctors over-diagnosing benign or harmless slow-growing cancers as needing to be treated...
>fuck up your prostate
>render you impotent and incontinent
>make money doing so
>you count as a "survivor"
>>80006947
>The United States has the best medical system in the world.
It really doesn't. First, large numbers of people don't have access to care. Second, even controlling for lifestyle factors we don't generally do better than any other developed country.
All systems have their pros and cons, but the US system is just retarded, cruel, wasteful and shameful.
>>80000000
>>79999999
>>80007186
>there are people who want to charge a 50% tax to pay for some unemployed people's health care.
For the love of god
>>80006743
>equates nationalized healthcare with socialism
It is one step closer to the greatest suffering known to mankind. It's perfectly fair to be wary of massive social programs if you have half a brain and were awake for 10% of your history classes.
>Americans spend much more in healthcare
Because it's the best. Also, all of the research companies are American and we are paying for the research in our costs as well. The research benefits trickle down to the rest of the world. You're welcome!
>USA has 3rd world life expetancy (below my country, lol).
Niggers. Seriously, they skew the data that much. Black men die (on average) at like 60 because they're involved in so much crime. Look it up. Also, obesity is a huge factor here. Our over abundance kills us. That does not mean that our health care facilities are less capable. We're just fat burgers.
>USA has shit cancer mortality
This is objectively untrue. The US has all top cancer facilities in the world and all the best cancer survival rates. Pic related.
>USa has 3rd world infant mortality rate, well below my country (lol) who spends less then a third per capita in healthcare.
This fucking meme.
The US infant mortality rate is high BECAUSE OF OUR SUPERIOR MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY. We actually try to save babies involved in severely premature births because we have the tech to do so. Europoor countries are not able to save these babies, so they write them off as a still birth/miscarriage and pad their stats.
Fuck off, socialist.
>>79998034
I personally wish you were dead
>>79998034
>Colorado is voting on a single payer system in the fall
>>80007549
Your tax rate is not that far from 50%. And literalt almost no one gets taxed at 50%, only millionaires.
>le "free" Healthcare may may
Newsflash idiots, Healthcare isn't free. People in countries with "free" Healthcare pay massive amounts of tax to keep the whole thing afloat. Our hospitals here in Canada are pure shit, with usual waiting times of 6-8 hours just to see a doctor. Don't even ask what the wait times are if you need special surgeries or need to see specialists. There is a reason thousands of Canadians each year fly to America or Mexico to get medical procedures done.
In British Columbia Healthcare isn't even "free".you need to pay into a slightly less shitty version of Obama care every month to even have coverage, and costs are based off of what your wage is. So if you are a scumsucking welfare queen, you get one on the house. If you actually work for a living to support the whole rotten system, be prepared to spend thousands just to have the privilege of sitting in a waiting room for eternity.
>>80007186
>First, large numbers of people don't have access to care.
Everyone has access. Not everyone can afford it.
Large numbers of people are lazy worthless shits who don't deserve a god damn thing. Go drive through the hood next time you have a day off of work. Hundreds of porch dwelling welfare receivers. These people deserve a spot in line for surgery in front of me, a tax paying contributor to society? Not a chance.
Nothing gives you the right to someone else's services. Sorry to hurt your fee fees, socialist.
I pay for everything out of pocket. I don't use health insurance. I'm perfectly happy.
>>80007733
>single payer
>somehow "free health care"
?
>>80007679
Most well off people are at 25% or 28% Mohammed, that's far from 50% that people like OP want to enforce.
But only on the hard working people. The poor will be allowed to sit in their house all day and do nothing.
>>80007549
You have to be earning a *lot* of money for a switch to single payer to not be in your financial interest.
I'm not a berniefag, but he was right about that. What part of $9,000 vs $3000 PER CAPITA don't you understand?
>letting your fear of money going to niggers drive you to support policies that fuck you in the ass
literally the story of America since the late 70's.
>>80007802
>Everyone has access. Not everyone can afford it.
pic related
>>79998034
Not a single-payer, shit-for-brains. Millions of taxpayers would be on the hook. Let everyone pay for themselves and make hospitals compete and then you'll see the prices drop dramatically instead of the current bloated health industry taking up 7 percent of the economy.
>>80007603
That's all well and good if you live in fantasy land. But in reality US healthcare system is garbage because big pharma and insurance companies dictate policy in a for profit system.
Also, mortality rates for middle aged white men are rising in the US, partly because of our shitty system that is objectively shitty for most Americans.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirror
>>80008020
>posts an unrelated gif instead of making an argument
Lazy, non-contributing people have no right to healthcare services. People that work, contribute to society, and pay for insurance should be served first.
That is not to say that the poor cannot be helped through private charity, but they should not be helped via government "intervention" (read: forceful theft).
Let go of your emotions for half a second a think logically.
>>79998034
Eh?
You realize 100% of Republicans voted against Obamacare.
Obamacare could have literally been anything else and they could have passed it. Could have been single payer.
Democrats had total control of government at the time. Presidency + > 50% of House and Senate.
They literally could have passed anything.
They passed a piece of shit.
And they never did defund the wars or make marijuana legal.
>>80007603
>It is one step closer to the greatest suffering known to mankind.
lol, k mate. Fox News told you.
How many countries have nationalized healtcare and haven't turned to commies? Even fucking sigapore has one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Singapore
>Because it's the best.
I showed you the opossite. It's average at best, if you gnore the spending to outcome ratio
> Also, all of the research companies are American and we are paying for the research in our costs as well.
Well, even if that was true, thank you for paying for my cheap pills ;)
>Niggers. Seriously, they skew the data that much
What would the white trash do if they didn't had the nigger to blame...
Any sources?
And it's not like europeans countries don't have their underclasses
>This is objectively untrue.
I showed 2 links bro
>conservatives denying reality
Who would have guessed
>The US has all top cancer facilities in the world and all the best cancer survival rates.
But they aren0t available to you. Only to the rich americans and globalists
source to the pic study?
>This fucking meme.
It's not a meme, i showed you sources
>The US infant mortality rate is high BECAUSE OF OUR SUPERIOR MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY. We actually try to save babies involved in severely premature births because we have the tech to do so.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
what a retard.
>implying other countries let their babies die
The rub is that it's really not my fucking problem. I'm not going to pay for your healthcare, and if you can't afford it, you should get a better job.
I'm fine with single payer, as long as tax payers only get access. Too many parasites and single mothers in this country to have a single payer system.
Besides, I don't see the practicality of it in America. The hospitals and clinics would be flooded, wait times would be horrendous. I don't want to wait 4 months to see my general practitioner so bums can have ""free"" healthcare.
>>80008020
That's a bold face lie. I have a job that provides my health care and you're saying that a government plan would save me money?
Fuck right off. I'm well taken care of and I won't have my taxes spike to pay for liberal arts degrees.
>>80007733
>Newsflash idiots, Healthcare isn't free.
the irony...
>>>80007802
>Everyone has access. Not everyone can afford it.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>americans
>>80007831
And you do right. Insurance is betting agaisnt someone who does all the rules
>>80007923
>Mohammed
>from a country 60%
Americans are so insecure its cute
>>80008307
https://assets.aeaweb.org/assets/production/journals/aer/top20/53.5.941-973.pdf
>>80008478
>makes a retarded "point" that misses the point
>doesn't understand image calling him retarded
>is a libertarian
I'll help you out: you're retarded.
>>80008709
>I have a job that provides my health care
FOR FREE????
Goddamn you niggers are dumb. Read a fucking book.
>>80008480
this is some hilarious bullshit
>>80008020
Maybe Democrats should stop pushing programs where they take my money and give it to niggers then?
>>80008527
>But they aren0t available to you. Only to the rich americans and globalists
I literally had my cancer surgery (malignant melanom) performed by a harvard medical school professor who is also the head of the global surgery initiative.
http://www.massgeneral.org/doctors/doctor.aspx?id=17375
I am an ordinary person and I make $70k/year.
You are full of shit. Nothing you have posted is true. You've been fully brainwashed by Michael Moore and jew media.
BOTTOM LINE: if you work for a living and get sick (as in a serious illness), you want to be in the US over anywhere else. period.
The infant mortality rate in the US is, objectively, skewed by our attempts to save premature babies that other country do not bother with. I
>>80008862
It's not free, but by looking how the government handles public transportation, the public school system and welfare and still you idiots want the government to handle health care?
A government health care system will just put more strain on the middle class to help the poor just like welfare and food stamps have done.
>>79998034
Conservatives are not in government
Republicans funded Oshitcare.
>>79998034
I had a seizure late last month for the first time in years. I went by ambulance.
On the bright side, the ambulance is only 35 bucks.
The down side, I was waiting in emergency for 5 hours to be seen by someone while continuing to have seizures, it's been a month and I'm still waiting to be referred to a seizure clinic.
I guess it's not bad if you don't mind waiting. I had a cat scan and a couple of tests which probably would have cost me a good couple thousand along with the ambulance.
You do get looked at first if you REALLY need it; there are a lot more people that really need it than you do though.
You might be made to wait too long that you die, even longer if you're not gonna die, but it also keeps you from going into heavy debt.
>>80009203
>I literally had my cancer surgery (malignant melanom) performed by a harvard medical school professor who is also the head of the global surgery initiative.
Good for you, how is recovery? (How much for the surgery, if i may ask?)
>You are full of shit. Nothing you have posted is true.
>Because my fee fees say so
> by Michael Moore
Who is he? That fat fuck?
>if you work for a living and get sick (as in a serious illness), you want to be in the US over anywhere else.
There are a couple of things that USA would be best if i was rich. But overall i would rather get sick in France or UK
>The infant mortality rate in the US is, objectively, skewed by our attempts to save premature babies that other country do not bother with. I
Can you give a source?
> that other country do not bother with.
Oh, poor soul. How brainwashed can one be...
>>80009131
I feel your pain, but niggers getting some of your money is literally the price of keeping the billionaires and corporations from assraping the middle class. Anything that would help you would help niggers too.
On the other hand, that should clue you in as to what side you're on.
>>80009226
So basically you haven't absorbed any of the information offered in this thread and are just repeating your anti-government bias as fact.
>>80008405
>>80006743
Also, the waste in public schools and transportation pales in comparison with the healthcare system. The only government program that comes anywhere close to wasting $1.8TRILLION would be the military, but even then not so much.
>>80001244
Double digits for truth. Why can't liberals wrap this around their head? They already like everywhere else, but the USA.Termites are less destructive.
>>80009754
Oh no I believe you that a competent government could run an amazing health care system.
However there's one problem.
>>79998034
"Civilized societies"
They sure are GOOD.
>>80009712
>Can you give a source?
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db23.htm
>>80009996
Maybe you should stop voting republican, lol
Anyway, people generally seem satisfied with medicare.
>>80000207
>Obamacare
>Universal Healthcare
Don't talk about shit you don't know faggot.
>>80010168
>people
>are
>satisfied
>with
>Medicare
I am rarely shocked by statements on 4chan
>>80002991
>Americans are the ones deluding themselves into thinking that Europeans don't know how to wage war
You literally ran out of ordinance during that tiny Libya thing. And you couldn't even clean up that Balkan mess in your backyard without calling on America to help. When it came to choose between guns & butter, you euroserfs chose butter. You fuckers are in for a rude awakening come the next conflict.
>>80010168
If Democrats are so great what happened with Detroit?
>>80010152
Now you will read what you linked and tell me where it supports your claims? It just blamed the high infant mortality rate on the high prenatal births, while ignoring why those prenatal births were so high in USA.
>>80004804
>How do your organ transplants lists work?
We just pay money, and china delivers fresh healthy organs from their 'volunteers'.
>>79998183
I thought UK had the top medical stats in the world?
>>80010975
>ebin troll xD
>>80011170
>there isn't people in england who don't like NHS
>>79998034
Just found out today I have a bill from a hospital stay from May 2015 that is still pending with my insurance. Fuck my life. Guess who is going down to speak with an insurance rep tomorrow after 5 hours doing the fucking run around today? This ^ asshole. They are going to get this fucking done I am fucking over this shit.
>>80011214
https://nypost.com/2014/08/09/chinas-long-history-of-harvesting-organs-from-living-political-prisoners/
>>80011696
So? They were going to die, so it's better to harvest their organs
>>80006502
Look who showed up.
>>80011170
>government statistics
>>80012371
That's Austria you retarded negroid. You know, the place where the king of /pol/ was born?
>>80005656
The sad part is that the US spends over half of its budget each year on Social security and medicare/Medicaid but only 17% for the military.
A simple ways to fix Healthcare in the US,
1. standardize costs, A appendix removal in the US costs between $1,500 and $150,000 (mine cost $34,850). Every "common" surgery should cost the nearly the same across the US (accounting for purchasing power of the location you live in)
2. Stop subsidizing pharmaceutical costs for the rest of the world, If country's around the world want to use Drugs that are developed in the US they will pay the full fucking cost and not just production cost. (this would significantly reduce pharmaceutical costs in the US)
>>80012988
Arnie?
>>80013727
>mine cost $34,850
Holyfuck, that is like 2 times the average income a workerd earns per year inn Portugal. Fix that shit muricans
>they will pay the full fucking cost and not just production cost.
generics, bro. You have no leverage ;)
>>79998034
>Horsey thinks a complicated system of laws and bureaucracy will just end over nigh
>he thinks this world is this simple
Fuck Horsey
> Functional Healthcare
HC in the US seems like a shambles of over complexity and over regulation. HC in Australia is where you pay taxes your whole life so you can not receive care when you need it, flee overseas and pay thousands out of pocket anyway, then get beaten over the head with propaganda your whole life about how good you've got it and how you're the envy of the whole world.
Yeah get fucked, people envy inefficiency, waste, debt, lack of care, waiting lists and costs that blow out of proportion? Yeah sure people love going to the GP for "free" in Australia when each visit costs tax payers $200 on the back end behind the scenes.
Unless you're dying in an emergency ward you get sweet fuck all in Australia. So yes USA come join us in Socialist utopia, let's see who can collapse first!
>>80004381
>
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/david-rockefellers-sixth-heart-transplant-successful-at-age-99/
>>80013967
jej
>>80014109
eh just threaten military action if they don't pay or Trade embargo's etc.
>>80010484
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/press-releases/2012/jul/medicare-v-employer-insurance
>>80010730
Deindustrialization, which in fairness has been bipartisan.
Compare this with, as Bill Maher rightly pointed out, the fiscal disasters in Kansas and Louisiana. At some point, it seems, Republicans started actually believing that tax cuts pay for themselves, which is crazy.
>>80004193
It is though, leftist Americans always bring up Canada or Europe.
>>80015329
Not a phone survey!
>>80016358
I just took the first link desu
>>80016445
I mixed up Medicare and Medicaid anyways.
Medicare is decent because both parties will be damned if they go against the best voting demographic.
Medicaid is going to be far more representative of a government run health care system. And there I dare you to find anyone happy with that, the users say it's shit and doesn't do enough and Republicans say it's to vulnerable to being taken advantage of and too inefficient.
>>80010355
we didn't know how shit the affordable care act was. Had to pass it to know what was in it.
>>80002912
The amount ultimately is tied to what CMS (medicare/Medicaid) would reimburse.
>>79998034
Not really m8. Considering the NHS is on the constant verge of collapse due to low funding and immigration just think how fast the same system would collapse in your country.
