I dedicate this thread to the glory and resurrection of Jesus Christ. All people are welcome here to discuss faith and the Gospel among themselves, and the role the teachings of Jesus Christ can play to help shift western culture back towards sustainable values.
This is not a thread to debate staunch atheists, or argue the heresy/legitimacy of various Christian churches.
This IS a place to answer questions from open and curious Anons who see Christianity as a well worn path out of degeneracy. God loves you (Yes, you.) and wishes success and exaltation on all of his children.
/pol/ is a powerful place with strong cultural influence, but also a place full of Judgement. I urge /pol/ users who consider themselves Christian to consider Jesus teachings on judging others before shitposting. Through Christian morals and values, everything /pol/ stands for and wishes for the world can be achieved. By coming together and making these threads regularly we can shift the negativity of this place and truly turn it into the "path of light"
>>79970455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRg92KWCTwE
Posting early Renaissance Christian music
>>79971724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfayNuB3H_8
>>79971878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEehysI8Qc0
Late Medieval
>>79972057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSj2FuipSMY
>>79971724
>>79971878
>>79972057
Thank you Blessed Britbong.
>>79972274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWs9uSvq8oA
Late Medieval
>>79970455
Christ is not God
Who started this meme
>>79972330
No probs m8. Just preserving a culture we've largely discarded :'^)
>>79972675
>Who started this meme
God
Why do catholics worship idols and not god
>>79972950
No I didnt
>>79973212
>No I didn't
>>79973126
And their president said ISIS is like Christ and that the Europeans must breed with white people
And he said gay is not bad
Like bruh just fuck my heretical sect up familia
>>79973126
What are you talking about exactly? The Veneration of Saints? Praying to Saints is kind of like asking a friend to pray for us, except that friend is in heaven.
>>79973352
Ah yes i see youve read the last chapter in my book
The double edged sword :^ )
>>79973126
>>79973367
>I have no idea about Catholicism but I will post protestant memes, that will show them
After 500 they could find something new...
>>79972675
Christ = Messiah = Anointed One
The Anointed One has to both die for His people and establish an everlasting throne.
Do you know anyone but God Who can do both?
>>79973484
>2edgy4me mate
>>79973126
Because they're pagans, and have been convinced by their pagan cult that they are the only people going to heaven. Their faith is in their cult to get them in; their faith is in their cult's false declaration that they are the church Jesus started.
If God exists why is there so much suffering in the world?
>>79973391
Why do you worship idols and not God?
>>79973553
Based Poland, the last stronghold of Catholicism in the West. May you never bow to the temptations of modern degeneracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
My grandparents on my Mothers side are Polish and were possibly the most devout Catholics in America.
>>79973734
Because sin entered into the world through mankind's disobedience, disbelief and rebellion, and with it came death and pain and suffering and sorrow and disease, etc.
Sin is a huge deal. So huge it called for the death of God to fix it.
>>79973860
Why do I have to be held accountable for Adam's fuck up?
>>79974264
Picture it like this. A long time ago your grandfather and grandmother fell into a deep hole in the Earth and could not get out. They lived in this subterranean world without light for the rest of their lives and had children while they were down there. The children may not have deserved to be down there, but it's where they were born so they have to deal with it until they can find a way to the surface again.
>>79974264
The natural consequence of Adam sinning was that he died, spiritually, that instant. The Holy Spirit that brought Him to life fled the sinner, and he died.
So he and Eve could only reproduce children in their fallen and dead image, not in the image of God.
So right now, you're dead. Separated from God, Who is Life.
Adam's sin condemned mankind to hell for eternity.
Jesus' sacrifice made it possible for whoever believes to regain that lost Holy Spirit, and live forever.
>>79974264
The propensity to sin is sort of like transmitted innately through our nature
Sort of like a congenital disease
Your nature to sin is Adam's fault. Yours sins are your own to suffer for
>>79974631
The devil's lies reek of sulfur and attar, much like your posts.
>>79970455
>>>/x/ is over there, dipwad.
>>79974784
>The King of Kings is somehow not political.
>>79972581
Found another one :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AtL4w6PXyk
I was taught that Jesus is the son of God not God himself. Or is Jesus a manifestation of God in human form???
>>79973860
Another example of sin is the whole "Christ is God" meme
>>79974770
What did I do :^(
>>79974849
*King of Jews
Ftfy
So why don't I just repent and then die as soon as possible afterwards? If life on this world is like a disease then why even bother?
>>79970455
Back to Reasonablefaith.org Christfag
>>79973860
>disobedience, disbelief and rebellion
Is god omnipotent and also the creator of everything or not? Because if he is there can be nothing except the the things he chose there to be.
>>79974941
Christ is a man subordinate and seperate from God
You are correct
>>79975036
Because murdering yourself is a sin
>>79970455
2016. Talking about religion
Grow the fuck up.
>>79974941
He was God in human form. Or, "The word made flesh" "The Word" is one third of the holy trinity, and it was by Gods word the world was created. This concept is found in many religions, such as hinduism claiming the world is created and sustained by the holy vibration of OM, which is a sound that contains all sounds.
We live in a vibrational universe, and the study of cymatics shows us that sound waves can shape particles of sand, dust, water, etc into various forms.
>>79974849
Well, maybe if he was real he would be. But since he's imaginary, yes, you should go over to that other board where people talk about the imaginary things they think are real.
>>79974941
>I was taught that Jesus is the son of God not God himself.
>not
That should be an AND. You were taught an obvious heresy.
>>79975207
>>79975139
Thanks for answering my question.
>>79975191
>>79975207
Wrong
He was a man with authority
If he was God then why did he die
Thats retarded
>>79975160
Then the best thing to do would be to repent and get cleared up then go street preaching in, I don't know, some mudslime land. Killing yourself may be a sin but getting killed for the gospel is very holy.
>>79975309
No you were taught the heresy
>>79975309
Well that is what I was taught by the Church of England.
>>79975391
To forfill the prophecy. And then He showed He was not fully human by beating death and rising from the grave.
God has one name and it is not Jesus
It is "I AM WHO I AM"
>>79970455
Is YHWH Omnipresent?
>Obviously How?
>>79975139
>>79975391
Are you a unitarian? Is that what this is? I can't tell. You're definitely wrong. Jesus was not jyst a man he was totally God too.
>>79975635
The prophecy said it would be the messiah not god
>>79975639
Kike please
there is literally nothing wrong with being pagan
>>79975482
>Killing yourself may be a sin but getting killed for the gospel is very holy.
Not if you foolishly do it - Ecclesiastes 7:17
You think I don't know my Bible, Satan?
>>79975667
God is literally everything
>Christian General
>>79975847
Even Sin, Sinner and Devil?
>>79975857
>heathen general
Has anybody read Revelations
What happens when the messiah (NOT GOD) comes back?
>>79975391
He didn't really "die" because he raised himself from the dead three days later. The fact that he is the only human to die and come back to life (as well as raise others from the dead) is why he is divine and different from a normal person or prophet.
His death was part of what he came here to do. It was a covenant and contract to free humanity from the debt of its sins, which would have led humanity to ruin. Christs death was essentially the beginning of the end of "The fall" of man. Christ brought a ladder for us all, so that by following his teachings faithfully mankind can transform the world into one of peace and prosperity.
In finance, we balance a budget on something called a T chart, and a cross looks just like a T.
>>79970455
If the Bible is true,
a cult leader in Jerusalem was God's chosen prophet,
how do you know that Mohammed wasn't a true prophet as well?
They both led their own cults and plagiarized an older religion.
Why should one be true but one false?
>>79974264
I think of it this way. A free will of human intellect will always be lead to sin by a more intelligent being. A free will will ALWAYS refuse obedience, because by choosing obedience, we inherently are nullifying both our own free will and our own self-interest.
However, sin is anathema to God. If you sin, you disrupt the perfect order of the universe, so you must die. And everyone will be lead to sin, so everyone must die. Jesus Christ is the only human being that was able to resist sin and self-interest for his entire life, and this is because he was divine. Since he was divine, his death was worth more than the sum total of both human life and human sin, so his death pays the toll for the rest of humanity that is willing to both accept this gift, AND stop sinning from that point forward.
So yes, you can be saved, but only if you accept that Jesus paid your debt of PAST sins, and that you vow to stop sinning from that point on. That means following God's law. Yes, this includes observing the Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) and His holy days (Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Feast of Trumpets, Day of Atonement, and Feast of Tabernacles), and also observing Mosaic laws such as the Ten Commandments, dietary restrictions, and sexual restrictions.
We all suffer the fate of Adam because we all have been fooled by Satan at least once. No one gets through life without sinning because he is just too smart for us. He makes us justify sin in such an intelligent and rational way that we do it even though we've been told not to. And if you sin even once, you die. That's God's rule. The definition of sin is "missing the mark" or breaking the Law of God.
Don't like it? Then you die. Sorry bub.
>>79976089
Theyre both true
>>79970455
Does God still perform miracles?
>>79976089
You know how Jews say Jesus wasn't the savour because he didn't furfill all the spooky shit in the old testament?
That's why.
>>79976089
>literally a kike
Paedophilic war lords can't be prophets
>>79976089
The First Profet was Zoroaster.
Christ has/had more in common with Zoroastrism than with Parise... Judaism.
But you guess, Jews wrote it down
>>79976232
The Messiah will bring peace to the nations
>Love the history of Christianity
>Love the history of Europe
>The preservation of texts from Rome
>The continuation of culture stretching back thousands of years to the proto-Indo-Europeans themselves
>The emphasis on philanthropy and charity
>Suddenly remember that the Bible is about Jew shit in the desert and has absolutely nothing to do with Europe or anything that I actually like about Christianity
>Get crushed yet again by the fact that churches of all denominations care about nothing except said Jew shit in the desert
The church really dicked us over by not going along a route that could survive secularization. I mean seriously, they didn't even co-opt "gentile" from the Jews, it took the fucking Mormons to come up with that.
ITT infidels
>>79976447
You don't understand Catholicism/Orthodoxism nor traditionalism.
>>79976447
Christianity isn't about Jews, Most Jew shit is uncanon with the new ideals
>>79976411
>>79976042
Trump is the second coming
You've been warned, fuckers
>>79976089
There is an inherent morality within the heart of man. We all know deep down when something we are doing is wrong, but we often ignore that voice.
>Why should one be true but one false?
If you study the life and words of Jesus, you find only wisdom, love, and mercy. We can check the words of Jesus with the innate morality of our hearts and show that they align exactly.
If you study the words of Muhammad, the only good parts are plagiarized from the Bible and Torah, while he added a bunch of judgemental warmongering. Muhammad also behaved strangely when receiving revelation. He was afraid, and thought he was going crazy at times. He said the Angel Gabriel pressed hard into his chest such that he though he was dying. Sounds like demon possession to me.
The ideas Jesus supplemented to the Torah were revolutionary. The behavior of the earliest Christians was revolutionary. 11 of the 12 apostles chose to die rather than renounce what they knew to be true about Jesus.
The very Empire that crucified him converted to Christianity in an incredibly short amount of time.
>>79976679
I think the point went over your head.
>>79976696
The New Testament (and the Old) are both about Jews and the struggle of Jews in the Jewish homeland.
The power of Jesus is real, anyone can experience it, if they just try praying honestly and without doubt.
You can feel it in your heart and you will see results in your life.
Also, he's soon coming back in person, and this time for good
>>79976775
think he will be pissed the kikes killed him?
>>79976089
Because Christianity naturally leads to Utopia if everyone follows its tenets. It is based on loving your neighbor as yourself, putting the interest of others before yourself, and loving God through acts of obedience. It is not a forceful doctrine. It does not force you to submit. It highly suggests you comply, due to the penalty vs the reward, but it does not hold a sword to your neck and force you.
Islam on the other hand is a doctrine of deception and murder and forcing your will onto others. Even if everyone were made Islamic through brute force, do you think those who've been subjugated would consider their new reality a "utopia"? Of course not, they've been robbed of their free will to choose, which is the most precious of all God's gifts to mankind.
Christianity always allows you to choose. You retain your free will. You just "choose to obey" because you recognize that this doctrine makes the most sense and you trust God on his laws. Think about it, maybe pre-marital sex and following the lusts of the flesh do WAY more damage to society than it is worth to the individual. Is fulfilling a lust worth destroying a heart and mind? A heart and mind that will go on to destroy others?
Christianity is all about recognizing that God knows best and he set his laws so that humans will be happy and prosperous, not because he doesn't want you to "have fun". Islam is all about worshipping Allah because if you don't I'll cut your head off.
>>79976984
>The New Testament (and the Old) are both about Jews and the struggle of Jews in the Jewish homeland.
Read this: Acts 15:7-19
Especially: Acts 15:9
>>79976984
The Whole happening is about Trump and right wing struggles.
Obviously, Tlaloc Told Trump to build the Wall because Tlaloc wants to drown The Cartels...
We must praise Tlaloc
>>79976984
>Le Jews
The Whole Happening is about Trump and right wing struggles.
Obviously, Tlaloc Told Trump to build the Wall because Tlaloc wants to drown The Cartels.
Praise Tlaloc.
>>79973126
>Mexican
>Luther memes
Not all of us have that Santa Muerte shit
>>79977377
Again, that's not at all what I'm talking about. Gentiles being allowed in the Jew Shit Clubhouse in Jew Land doesn't change anything.
>>79976089
Its funny that Christ warns us about the coming of Mohammed and warns us about him being the false prophet.
"Do not believe in new gospels even if they are taught to you by an angel of life"
And that's exactly how islam was born.
Exactly like that.
Funny isnt it?
>>79977957
We are all one in Jesus Christ and in Him we are no longer gentiles or jews, black or white, man or woman but children of God.
>>79977957
So you just simply hate all jews because they are all innately and irreversibly pure evil
We have inherited the most beautiful and human religion that has ever been created, from the jews that were routinely murdered by their fellow jews for this betray
I see no reason why it shouldn't be revived
>>79970455
Afternoon /cg/, how do we meme an American Orthodox Patriarchate into existence? Serious question.
>>79977957
A God that has no problems with killing.
>Nah,It's okay, Everyone is welcome now.
Old Man YHWH isn't the same New Testament's God unless something happened...
And I know what happened
>>79978306
>betrayal*
>>79972675
John 1
>>79975191
i did, thats why im no longer a professing atheist
>>79977957
We aren't "allowed" in "Jew Shit Clubhouse" the Jews who reject Christ have been cut off from the branch of Israel entirely.
>>79978306
Don't put words in my mouth. You keep willingly misunderstanding in order to argue with a phantom of your own imagining instead of confronting what's before you. It's not that it's Jewshit. It could be Arabshit, or Chineseshit, or Mongolshit, or Africanshit. It's that it's not Europeanshit.
What does the bible say about racism. Many on the board claim to be christian but discriminate against Jews, blacks etc,
A son of God. A. The Jews had their way of dealing with Jesus, and the Christians had an even more effective way of dealing with Jesus.
>>79977957
Read pic related
>>79978722
i think after 1700 years of influence over europe, it becomes european, if it had not been for christianity, the britians and germanic tribes would be the dindus to the romans
>>79978628
>Jews who reject
They always did, It's more like if YHWH said:
>Fuck this shitters, I will be the Personal God of others instead.
YHWH rejected them thus the Jews became Atheist
>>79978722
Doesn't matter as long as it's Trueshit
>>79976089
because apostoles wouldn’t go and spread faith and let themselves be martyred because of a story they made up
saint paul wouldn’t transform from a christian hating fanatic to a christian martyr just so he can make up a story
the quarran can be easily disproven
>>79978895
you can love someone, but also look out for your homeland, paul had strong feelings for his fellow tribe in Romans 11
>>79978895
In their defense:
YHWH discrimated Jews too
>>79978722
The only beliefs that you could call European were the dozens of pagan religions in pre-historic and ancient Europe. The former were a manifestation of barbarism while the later purely of *piety, not of sincere faith
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietas
I want to have sex with that kid Jesus is carrying. Does she have a name?
>>79978895
I haven't found anything - or at least I don't remember anything about skin color, Samson in old testament was a negro and no on cared - there are some Christian negros in new testament and no one cares.
Actually what is stated quite clear in Tradition - is that stereotypes are a great sin.
>>79979291
Samson was not a negro. Where did you get that?
>>79978628
Do you have any literature on this subject? You're the first person to actually understand what I've been saying.
>>79978906
I don't care about how evil the Jews are, because it's not about the Jews.
>>79979274
The kid you want to have sex with is Jesus. The man is St. Joseph.
Say ten hail Marys and be forgiven.
>>79979291
Yes that is what I thought.
>>79978895
"With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Peace between races is only achievable through Christ. Orthodox Christians of all races are based, including Ethiopians(Bob Marley was Ethiopian Orthodox). My parish is a big of an oddity, we have like 16 different nationalities represented there, maybe more. And when we go to coffee hour afterwards, everyone segregates into little groups and speaks in their native tongues. But during the Divine Liturgy, we are all in communion with each other, we are all part of the body of Christ.
So we as Orthodox Christians would not say there there are no differences between race, or that race doesn't exist. But we would say that we shouldn't hate people because of their race, or we should exclude people from the Church based on race. That kind of racism is very spiritually harmful. Still, we can be proud of our race and where we are from and keep our own traditions.
>or argue the heresy/legitimacy of various Christian churches
But that's half the fun!
>>79979479
The Early Church Fathers probably mention it, but nothing specific that I can think of. In the book of Romans St. Paul talks about how the Jews were cut off from the branch though, and that if they wanted to be put back on they'd need to accept Christ like everyone else. Basically gentiles with Christ = God's people, but Jews could be re-included if they stop being Jews.
>>79979480
Really? Fuck, I feel gross now.
>>79978895
Acts 17:26
God is for borders and segregation of peoples (into countries and nations), but not a segregation of faith (everyone must be Christian)
See also: Tower of Babel
>>79979586
You're right I remember better now - He was a semite from tribe of Dan. At worst he was very brown skinned.
>>79974941
By Jesus saying He is the Son of God, He was saying He is God, as God can only beget God; kind begets kind, always.
Welcome to the mystery of the Trinity.
>>79978895
Specifically? Nothing.
Racism is technically just acknowledging that differences between races exist so there's nothing inherently wrong with it. If you do what Roof did, and go shoot up a church because le niggers that'd be wrong though. It all depends on what you do with it basically.
>>79974942
Your objections don't make sense. Perhaps if you learned something you could learn how to troll people more effectively.
We wuz son of God n sheeeiiit
>>79979768
Both your mentions do not talk about skin color.
Bible also doesn't explain how races came to be - it's expected that it's just magic.
That Noah was white and one his kids was a negro, other asian and so on lmao.
>>79975029
Revelation 19:16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
>>79979592
>>79979768
>>79979921
>>79979910
Thank you for the answers to my question. It was very much appreciated,
>>79974946
You have been captured by the enemy, blinded, fed lies, believed them, and passed them on.
>>79975122
I think you're making an argument that nothing God made could be ruined.
As a ruined human being living in a ruined world, I respectfully disagree.
However, I know that my condition, and the condition of the world, are temporary; and nothing temporary matters.
>>79975309
He's quite real, and His Kingdom is quite real, and literally not much more than seven years off.
>>79975311
The poster who told you the Son is in the Trinity and is God is correct; the troll who told you Jesus is not God is a liar.
>>79979992
>Both your mentions do not talk about race.
Why do you say this? The common Biblical theory is that the races formed during the construction of the Tower of Babel
>>79975391
He could not die as God.
He had to die to provide a means of salvation for us.
He became one of us so that He could die, and provide a means to save us.
It's the greatest act of love ever.
>>79980114
Can you be more specific please?
>>79975639
Jesus, Yeshua, is YHWH.
>>79975729
In order to fulfill all of the prophecies of the Messiah, the Messiah must be God Himself.
Just as God told Abraham at the sacrifice of Isaac.
God provided Himself a Lamb for the slaughter.
>>79980282
>second coming theories and predictions
let's hear your reasoning my man
>>79980381
That's just a dumb theory - based on someone autism.
Races would've had to be unique creations if there are only around 7500 years since first man walked the earth actually races had only 5000 years to form since the flood is considered to have happened around 3000 bc.
We know black people, asians existed around 3000 bc.
>>79975191
Poland is getting hardcore Catholic, why aren't you joining the awesome?
>>79976042
At the Second Coming, Jesus will end Armageddon, the battle at Meggido, and defeat the Antichrist, False Prophet, and mankind's collective armies. He will cast the Antichrist and the pope into the Lake of Fire, cause the Temple to be cleansed, and sit for the Sheep and Goat judgment.
The Sheep go to Jesus' right hand; these are people saved during the Tribulation who proved that they had faith in Him by their acts towards other people, and who did not take the mark of the Beast.
The goats, everyone who did take the mark of the Beast, and everyone who failed to maintain their own righteousness, goes straight to hell.
The Sheep enter into the 1,000 year kingdom of Jesus on earth; the Tribulation saints serve the Lamb; the Church rules and reigns with Christ Jesus from the New Jerusalem, an orbiting satellite city 2/3 the size of the moon. It's the city you may have heard about, with streets of gold, gates of a single pearl, layers of gems for foundations, etc. It's where God lives, and where God provides light, water, food and medicine to the earth.
During this 1000 year reign, the devil and his demons will be bound, the earth will revert to Eden status, and there will be no more sea. Men will live to a thousand; a man who dies at a 100 will be considered a child. Men will live in houses they built with their own hands, eating from their own flocks, and drinking from their own vineyards.
It will be heaven on earth.
>>79973391
>Praying to Saints is kind of like asking a friend to pray for us, except that friend is in heaven.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
>>79979479
Philippians 3:2-3 "Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of those who mutilate the flesh! For it is we who are the circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and boast in Christ Jesus and have no confidence in the flesh"
Matthew 10:16-17 “See, I am sending you out like sheep into the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Beware of them, for they will hand you over to councils and flog you in their synagogues”
Luke 16:31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”
Mt 23:31-33 “Thus you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors. You snakes, you brood of vipers! How can you escape being sentenced to hell?”
Hebrews 8:13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Revelation 3:9 “I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.”
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you suffered the same things from your own compatriots as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out; they displease God and oppose everyone by hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. Thus they have constantly been filling up the measure of their sins; but God’s wrath has overtaken them at last.
I could go on but some of the verses are more subtle.
>>79980850
>We know black people, asians existed around 3000 bc.
Who is "we"?
>>79970455
Any Presbyterians on?
>>79976077
You can't be resurrected if you don't die. He died. Spear through the heart, blood and water coming out separate, the Roman execution detail pronounced Him dead.
>>79976089
Because the bible states that if any man, even upon word of an angel, teaches any different gospel than what was taught in the bible, he is accursed.
Mohammad is accursed.
>>79976220
Yes.
>>79976232
Reject the Messiah.
Murder the Messiah.
Reject the Kingdom.
Blame the Murdered Messiah for not bringing in the Rejected Kingdom.
Jews.
>>79980703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bjeBVStaEw
Because things are pretty evil and occult in the world right now. Also ISIS being an end times cult.
>>79976343
Zoroaster merely read and believed the tanakh as the Jews brought with them into captivity.
>>79981014
Kangz.
Archeology you dumb piece of shit - c14 is accurate for 6000 years - even your dumb protestant creation ministries say that.
There was Indus valley, summer - egypt, sometiems after Chinese - all of them unique races developing suddenly.
>>79976447
I don't get what you're trying to say
>>79976089
I hope this answers your question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6st_tFj6ouM&ab_channel=Acts17Apologetics
>>79981019
I was baptised into the Church of Scotland when I was a baby. I assume that is Presbyterian.
>>79981309
Can you do c14 dating?
>>79981568
They are yes
How do we revive the Iron Guard?
>>79973680
Those runes...
"And that <something> fucked up"
What the hell are those younger bullshit futhark letters?
>>79981568
Do you still hold the belief that Christ is the son of god?
>>79981758
>What the hell are those younger bullshit futhark letters?
Don't know mate, I just googled "atheist fedora who's read Nietzsche and now thinks he can kill God"
>>79981758
Nvm. Apparently the 3rd word is "looks".
"And that looks fucked up"
What a piece of shit
>>79981767
Yes now I do.
But for the most of my life I have lived as an Atheist. I hugely regret my actions. I feel as if I deliberately gone out my way to defy God.
In a moment of anger a few years ago I burned a bible and stamped it into the ground.
I am now trying to reconnect with God after all these years
>>79977274
Not for killing Him; nobody killed Him. He's God. He came to die.
But for making his death meaningless?
Yes. The wrath of God will be poured out on the entire world for that travesty.
>>79981582
Yes you can, you learn about isotopes in high school if you actually went to any
It's an radioactive isotope with a half-life of 5730 years ( radioactive decay ) - it's good because you can use carbonaceous materials from 5000 years ago like wood - so since no new carbon atoms are gathered the c14 starts to decay and is simply gone - since the numbers are the same on all living organisms you just add the c14 until you match it up - then the difference is the number of years that have passed.
It's not magic you stupid subhuman - I bet you believe science is a myth. What are you trying to prove?
>>79978895
Anyone who says they love God, but hate their brother, is a liar and the truth is not in him.
>>79975309
I smell Heresy, purge the fucking heathens
>>79982229
We're all former atheists here mate - Matthew 9:12
>>79982229
I know your pain and sadness, I was much like you actually. I still feel the guilt of destroying the holy book and slandering Christs name.
>>79980464
Not in this forum. I urge you to read "The Two Babylons" and "A Woman Rides The Beast", the former by Hislop, the latter by Dave Hunt.
>>79970455
Praise Jesus the king of kings !
>>79982274
Nice googling you've done there. Took you long enough
But you can't google your way into actually being able to do it my friend
>It's not magic you stupid subhuman - I bet you believe science is a myth.
Science is just a method of study. It tells us nothing about whether what it shows is actually true or not
>What are you trying to prove?
That you are a pop-scientist only, not an actual one
>>79982470
You got it boss
>>79980703
There's really nothing that has to happen prior to the rapture. Everything's in place. The gospel has been preached to all the nations, the number of saved is at a certain point, the technology to carry out what was prophesied in 95 AD now exists; there's really nothing left to do but get the number of saved up to the determined number, and go.
Now.
Soon.
Rapture.
Ezekiel 38 battle.
7 year peace treaty with Israel.
Tribulation.
42 months
Abomination that brings desolation.
Great tribulation; wrath of God; Troubles of Jacob
42 months.
Battle of Meggido; Armageddon.
Sun goes dark.
Second Coming of Christ in glory, followed by the glorified church.
Then this >>79980972
>>79981014
Also since it seems like you got triggered by we
That's just a figure of speech you retard it has a meaning different from its literal meaning.
We on 4chan, use the technique of anaphora.
Starting many consecutive phrases with we, taking about scientific community - or a field, etc.
Dude you seemed to have skipped school entirely, what kind of retarded sect are you member of? Your parents scared you that school is made by satan?
So anyway when I say we - I do not imply that I've done myself the whole work of archeology and the dating - but rather that I trust it, and can verify it - mainly because of the wide liberal education I've got and the free access to technology and tools that I have.
>>79981244
>Implying
Jews are thieves and corrupters
>>79982645
Took me long enough because I fucking closed the post when I finished it.
Radioactive isotopes was literally my last project paper in high school and I finished that last year.
>>79982645
I'm not a scientist tho - I'm planning to become a theologian. You are retarded tho we were discussing something else do not derail you subhuman cultist.
>>79981568
Your faith is in your church, and your infant baptism, which you don't even know happened, and don't remember.
Your faith is misplaced.
It should be in the risen Christ Jesus, and none other.
>>79982769
lol monkey
there is this tool
called money
>>79982229
Don't stop until you do connect with God, because your testimony thus far is that you have not. Seek Jesus with an open heart, and you will find Him. He promises.
>>79982274
And what was the starting condition, 5000 years ago, again?
Ah, yes. Unknown.
And what was all the effects of the contamination from thence to now?
Ah, yes. Unknown.
And what was the effect of being underwater for a year, under a mile high pillar of water?
Ah, yes. Unknown.
You should move up from C14 dating, which is calibrated by counting tree rings, to something a little more reliable, like revealed knowledge from God Himself.
>>79982787
As are non-Jews.
>>79982832
So you think you can use your high school knowledge to disprove God?
>>79982908
Not with that pride you're not
>>79982229
we all had our moments of doubt at some point no need to worry, every single one of us started being atheists
>>79982769
>but rather that I trust it,
Put your trust in no man, but in God only
>and can verify it - mainly because of the wide liberal education I've got and the free access to technology and tools that I have.
So you can verity c14 dating? What kind of high school do you go to son?
>>79970455
>2016
>worshiping a kike on a stick
Literally Communism.
>>79983232
I get your point.
Nevertheless, We were talking about Dogmas.
Jews corrupt but not all the Non-Jews do so.
>>79983137
>Ah, yes
lol retard.
Let me explain it another way since you're dumb - based on biblical numbers - ages of tribes.
The flood happened around 3000 - 3300 bc.
Naturally known civilizations would've not being able to develop before that as the flood cleaned everything on the face of earth - except a dude, whole animals of the earth and kids kids inside a floating wood box for a period of a year.
Then all archeological ruins, and texts that were found - date the first egyptean dynasty around 3050 bc, and the other known, civilizations also around that period so after the flood.
You're just contrarian now - tho I did not deny any of your beliefs or attacked them - we were discussing races.
>>79983519
You guys have what, two Jews in Mexico?
>>79983238
>So you think you can use your high school knowledge to disprove God?
We were talking about races - you dumb piece of shit not atheism.
>>79983484
Thanks for the bump senpai
Bless you!
>>79983540
Your dates are too early; the Flood was about 4600 yeas ago, so 2600 BCish.
The civilizations that developed before then were radically more developed than you would realize, as they had supernatural help you are completely and totally ignorant of.
Egyptian dating is a joke. You can rely on it if you want; no serious scholar would.
There's only one human race, and one hybrid race, and only part of the human race is salvageable.
>>79973553
>t-they're just memes
>when those words came from the pope himself
>>79983461
God won't save if you don't take your pills.
There are thousands of cases of cultists like you - that places their trust in God an from misinterpretation of bible verses, died of disease, died of snake poison - died because of stupid reasons - in which it was plain suicide by anyone looking at it rationally.
God just cleaned your soul out - and gave you the means to develop it for eternity that's literally all.
>>79983606
In Mexico, Everything that has either power or a load of money is Jewish or has nexus with Jews...
>>79983770
Your dates are based on masoretic text - I used the LXX dates.
Basically masoretic flood date - would make everything from genesis just to be a piece of fiction.
I know you cultists use the masoretic text - because you are angry with early church tradition and want to make everything on your own - be special.
>>79983770
Also claiming that in every scenario where data is out of reach - or impossible to gather supernatural elements were involved - and now because of modern technology, modern measurements and access to information supernatural is just gone it's immature as fuck.
Also back to masoretic - it's funny- based on it after the flood in just 67 years - Babylon tower was already built by a king with a wide nation... lmao
>>79983607
So you're just a Christian who's got the hots for science then?
One cannot serve two masters - Luke 16:13
Be careful not to idolize it
>>79983931
I just use what I know to be true.
You're free to use whatever you'd like.
>>79984084
scienece is not anti-Christian.
Protestantism and dumb fundamentalism is both anti-Christian and anti-Science.
YOu keep taking about me like you love me, when I was just having a discussion with you about races and I keep trying to pull it back - but you always have to bring me back - as if the subject was me.
Are you gay?
>>79984081
It's practically on the next page in the bible.
Noah had Ham, Ham had Canaan, Canaan had Nimrod, Nimrod built the tower.
Ok this thread has descended to arguing about the age of the Earth and name calling.
Lets discuss Pontius Pilate, he is the most interesting person in the Jesus story to me.
Was he guilty or innocent? The Pharisees wanted him to label the cross "claimed to be the King of the Jews" and Pilate said no "King of the Jews" it is. His wife had a dream and told him not to condemn Jesus. He did not condemn Jesus himself, but offered him up to the judgement of the people. He knew Jesus had broken no Roman laws, but had to abide by the laws of the Judeans who called for his death.
>>79984081
I'm just pointing out the glaring assumptions carbon dating makes, and how those assumptions are incompatible with the word of God.
They're also quite useless.
Although when you find C14 in diamonds, all of a sudden evolutionists start claiming it's unreliable. And when you find C14 in coal beds. And when you find C14 in every single organic sample ever, even mostly mineralized fossils.
>>79984210
so you're dumb enough to believe in one human generation people already lived n tents, had a working economy - were mass-producing bricks to build a tower which was able to reach the clouds in sky?
The LXX text trough mentioning extra generation - adds 397 years in which there was plausible time for such huge number of people and technological progress to be achieved.
You know not being dumb is not anti-Christian.
>>79984319
He was guilty but Jesus forgave him
>>79983822
Jesus never stopped healing people after He ascended mate
He imparted that power to the apostles through the Holy Spirit
John 14:12; Acts 5:12-16
You really should read your Bible mate. Or at least talk to your priest
>>79984332
They're not useless - get educated. It actually supports the biblical scenario - when you look at it trough LXX which is a translation from 300 BC.
>>79984492
Jesus but you cultists don't know Jesus and satan can't heal you. It would be absurd to expect satan to heal you.. lmao.
>>79984319
In the end, he was a pragmatic coward. He knew Jesus to be not only innocent, but amazing. And he knew why the Jews wanted Jesus dead.
But it wasn't until the Jews threatened to go to Caesar and tell Caesar that Pilate wasn't a friend to Caesar that Pilate put Jesus on the block, and eventually on the cross.
He redeemed himself slightly by the sign in many languages to the hordes of people in Jerusalem at Passover that the Jews were killing their King.
And yet, he is a monster for mingling the blood of Gentiles in with their offerings, and a superstitious man to believe in his wife's dream enough to have it influence his official duties.
But this is easily my favorite passage about Pilate:
Pilate: What is truth?
The Truth: (silence)
>>79984084
Don't fall into Vanity, Bro
>>79984449
Noah
Ham
Canaan
Nimrod
One generation?
>>79984449
>Let's add things to the bible to have the bible make more sense to us.
See, that's not my approach, nor will it ever be my approach.
>>79984182
You think loving people is gay? Are you a jew, or just insecure? - John 15:12
>>79984645
You have the right LXX translation so you have Canaan there - that cultist is using masoretic which has only ham > nimrod so 70 years.
>>79984544
Men have C14 dated living mollusks to be tens of thousands of years old, and antlers on a living deer to be different by thousands of years.
To say it's not an exact science is an understatement.
>>79984644
No vanity here bro. Just thirsting for righteousness - Matthew 5:6
>>79984707
Lmao this retard is using a biblical verse and he thinks it's about me being a rabbinic jew in 21st century or an insecure individual.
You cultist with your random verse spewing are disgusting as fuck.
>>79984589
>Jesus can't heal you
Ok
>>79984799
Tho c14 - half life is of 5700 years not 10000 - 50000 years.
It can go precise only to the half-life other than that it's pure speculation, conjunction based on personal observations that were influenced by beliefs rather than scientific fact.
>>79984778
We have ID's, and it's still me.
Since you seem interested in this sort of thing, you may want to look into how the Jews compressed the time of the Babylonian empire by 151 years, and the time of the Persian empire by 91 years, to shorten their calendar in the 3rd century AD by 242 years.
You know, since you're relying so much on that sort of thing.
>>79976089
Because i actually read what they wrote.
>>79984958
Satan can't heal - your jesus is satan because you're a cultist and a retarded one on top of that.
>>79984319
Pilate was pragmatic to a fault. He valued stability over justice, and let the most innocent man in the world suffer for it. But the blame can't be shouldered entirely onto him since the Pharisees, and their followers did everything they needed to do in order to put Pilate in a position where he would send Christ to the cross.
>>79984971
Ah, I see. You don't actually understand how carbon dating works.
>>79984866
>>79984707
Peace be upon you friends. Love thy neighbor. Your fighting makes Jesus cry.
>>79984971
Do you even know what a half life is?
>>79984866
>You cultist with your random verse spewing are disgusting as fuck.
It sure does seem random to someone whose heart is closed to the Bible..
Like I said, ask your priest if you don't want to have personal opinions
>>79984823
Too much Right shall Leave you...
Too much Left Shall Right you
Gluttony is beside us
>>79984698
Are you claiming that jewish translations before Christ added to the bible because it made more sense to us in 21st century for your particular discussion today.
Why are you looking at this emotionally are you not thinking logical one second?
I did not add anything myself you can verify the LXX yourself.
>>79985130
I'm doing it out of love for his soul my m8 - Proverbs 13:24
It's in pretty much imminent danger
>>79985148
A game?
>>79970455
That's a big crown.
>>79985047
Go ask your priest if what I said was right. But you won't ever do it will you?
The youths these days are typically slothful. I'm sure it's the same in Romania
You'll never make time for it
>>79985531
Wtf you said? I didn't get the feeling that you said anything tho.
You were just trying to tell me that I'm atheist, that science is wrong and that's about it - you also insisted that you believe the masoretic text to be good. And you also said that because you simply read the bible you're a saint or something.
You also implied that I haven't read the bible.
>>79985461
For you.
>>79985650
>You also implied that I haven't read the bible.
If you've read the Bible then why are you not seeing any connections between the verses and what I'm saying?
>>79985700
But!!!
What is his plan?
>>79985875
Because you're using verses to prove me that Jesus heals - because you think I believe Jesus cannot heal.
Which is something you put in my mouth - I never said that.
+ only a cultist like you would take a single verse out of it's chapter / book context and believe it has a meaning that way.
Use your own words if you want to formulate an idea, you prove easier that way that you've read the whole gospels and you understand the teachings and their contexts and apply them properly in your everyday life.
>>79985875
Also I will stop responding to posts about me - let's go back to discussing ideas not people.
>>79986128
>Use your own words
So I'm not allowed to quote the Bible
I can't just have opinions without referencing them to be honest
>>79986248
But I wanted to ask you if you have a Boyfriend. ;_;
>>79986444
If you take me as your authority - you're not allowed because I find it retarded and gave you the reasons.
We both live in democratic states - and we hopefully share democratic vaues and the website is hosted in a democratic country - so of course you're free to discuss bible verses and use them out of context - you're free to even be a cultist.
But in the same way I'm able to call your autism and - also I'm free to insult you rightfully.
You fucking snake !
>>79985950
Crashing this covenant
>>79985950
Salvation!
>>79986602
>so of course you're free to discuss bible verses and use them out of context
What Christ said can never be out of context. It must be applied throughout all things
>insults
John 18:22-23
23 "if I spoke correctly, why did you strike Me?”
>>79987062
I am going to hell and I know it - I did not claim to be a saint unlike you.
I seem to love sin more than having patience for decades to die and go to heaven.
Maybe in his infinite mercy God will make me a janitor in heaven or something - since none of us goes into heaven because we're good - rather because God is generous.
>>79987062
>If I spoke correctly, why did you strike Me?
Because the ray is nearer, The ray is the Ubermensch
>Kek
>>79987203
>since none of us goes into heaven because we're good - rather because God is generous.
Don't think you can't get away from it that easily
>>79987495
>You can* get away from it
>>79987495
Ok Mr. Saint that believe Jesus words directly apply to his life.
See you in hell anyway.
After resurrection when we will get the horrible deformed bodies to be tortured for eternity - I will carnally fuck you in the ass - in that lake of fire even if it'll hurt.
>>79987690
Chiar mi-ai dat cringe la faza asta prietene
>>79982768
I am under the impression from the teachings of the Church of God that there is no biblical basis for the rapture, and that Jesus commands us to flee into the wilderness as a means to escape the tribulation.
I read that it first came into public knowledge in 1830 ad.
>>79987898
>Asta
Por favor
>>79987898
Suck my dick loser.
Also implying the thief on the cross - done anything but fuck people over, ruin their life and probably even murder some - yet he got saved without any works - because God can do that.
His faith was considered work.
>>79983789
Learn what ex cathedra means then come talk with the adults
>>79970455
I never said to build churches, steal gold and work for Jews.
>>79987987
So there's no context there?
>The thief in the cross got saved because Christ was just about to die soon after
possible context^
Nowhere does it say he was a murderer
