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It's 2016. Why aren't you a fascist yet?
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It's 2016. Why aren't you a fascist yet?
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Because I don't believe in labels, maaaan.
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>>79949258
I'm not a statist.
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>>79949258
>hitler and nazism
>fascism

Yea, fuck off.
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>>79949258
>Jose Antonio
>Fascist

Stop the meme. Not funny anymore.
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>>79950179
were any of these guys fascist in your opinion?
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>2016
>following an ideology that failed even harder than communism

I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>79949258
I have a distaste for big government.
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>>79949258

It's 2016. Why aren't we creating a Fourth Political Theory and starting a new movement?

Codreanu was pretty based though.
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>>79950271
To be honest, I don't know anymore. The definition of "fascism" is kinda blurry.

How can you put all of them under the same definition, when they are so different and even contrary among themselves?
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>>79949258
I am
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>>79949258
But I am.
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>>79949258
Already live in one
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I'm a functioning adult well past my rebellious phase.
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Srs I don't understand how people aren't fascists in 2016 with everything that the Jews and socialists are pushing these days.
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Because people aren't ants.
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>>79950505
nice
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>>79949258
>Based Primo de Rivera
>Fascist
wow, I'm an #AzañaMissile now
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>>79949258
Because I'm not a stupid, weak cunt.
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But I am?
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>>79950741
You're right, we're monkeys. Do you want to fight each other in the jungle forever or unify under a strong leader and build a better monkey society?
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>leaving out the based manlet of Austrofascism
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>>79950919
I'm genuinely interested, why do you think that? Fascism is about strengthening your people and country.
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>>79949258
>OP used current Year meme
Sry, Trudeau would like you to pay up them fees.
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>>79950741
Oy vey
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Forgot pic.
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>>79950996
its nice having a leader, but if only the leader is doing the thinking we have a group with the brain of one monkey.
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>>79949258
Because I'm a libertarian
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>>79949258
NatSoc reporting in

>>79949816
>>79949951
>>79950296
>>79950305
>>79950741
>>79950919
>>79951519
>pic related

GO BACK
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>>79951834
Hey are you that bro running the current /NSG/?
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>>79949258
because im not in favor on stronger government.

anarchy isnt the answer either but fascism certainly is going too far.

Nationalism sure, but what made America great wasn't the iron fist of government.

though arguably it was pushing around others and being isolated from direct damage in wars that got us a good ways to where we are.
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>>79951834
MAKE ME
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>>79951886

Caught me red handed m8

Hail Victory!

14/88
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Who said I wasn't?
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>>79952129
Hehe I postes that picture
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>>79950446
How's fascism in Serbia?
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>>79949258
>no integralists
>no ustasha
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>>79952464
Its increasing but there are still a lot of people that HATE it because of WWII. There are some people that say that Hitler had some good ideas, but that's it. We don't like Jews so we got that.

Sadly kids these days are more and more degenerate, the Jewish influence is getting to them.
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>>79950407

Fascism is a big umbrella term for traditionalist authoritarian. Of Course every country has different traditions so these people will have different beliefs.
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Facism (just as Communism) are dead idealogies followed by retards or jews

We should create an AI to lead us to singularity. AI are pure, efficient, they have no hate or love, not hypocrite.

Why don't you support or AI overlords?
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But I am, and so is my girlfriend because of me
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>>79952494
Utasha sucks. They killed their fellow Skavic brothers while ZBOR wanted a united Yugoslavia under a fascist regime.
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>>79952464
run by police ..that good
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>>79953140
>fascist Mexican
ALRIGHT!!
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>>79949258
the rexist party of my country was a monarchist party not a fascist one
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>>79953650
They still has fascist elements like corporatism
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>>79953041

sounds pretty risky, what if the AI command forced sterilization of every human being for the sake of it's new genetically engineered humans.
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>>79953594
Economically yes, I am more closely ideologically to Benito. And don't tell me that italians are white just for this thread.
And about your picture, aren't those guys the more degenerate part of LaRaza? Aren't they based in the U.S.?
There is a NacSoc "movement" here, but they have next to no presence here.
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>>79953749
thats a point that i dont like, i prefers monarchism with citystates democraty(it create and ideological darwinism)
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>>79953783

we are not making a good work in all these years. If the AI said that humanity is imperfect and unable to change, who are we to think different?

if we don't destroy ourselves is because we are pussies. I personally choose the singularity pill. If I want to be a mindless drone that believes everything my government says, I prefer the man in charge is a machine without feeling and double agendas.
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>>79952129
yeah boi
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>>79954046
an*
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>>79954046

ideological darwinism isn't good. ideological darwinism is how we got islam. the survival of the ideology becomes the center of the ideology not the welfare of those who believe in it.
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>>79953749
wait usa dont?
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>>79954239
How's fascism in Peru?
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>>79954970
They do to some extent but the cause isn't good. Our government supports shitty welfare programs
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>>79954291
Disgusting. No better than the faggots who tried to change it along with our anthem.
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>>79955022

it's actually pretty lefty now. We our new president I don't know how will it be

time will tell.

I want a simple life without problems, I am a simple man myself. An AI will give us that. No more cheats, no more lies, no more double agendas. Just the best for the nation (even if we don't want it)
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Reportan in. Pic related did nothing wrong.
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>>79955317
Screw Utasha. They suck. They attacked their Slavic brothers instead of uniting with them. They're no different than the Azov Battalion in Ukraine.
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>>79949258
Mussolini is a cactus?
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>>79955112
im not saying thats what our flag should be you fucking abo i'm just glad to see /natsoc/ ausfags
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>>79955542
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces
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>>79955746
So the axe is surrounded by faggots?
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>>79955542
Mussolini is a literal fascist.
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>>79955860
R-Really, m8?
>So the axe is surrounded by faggots?
A faggot is a bundle of sticks. For it to be surrounded by 'faggots' there would need to be multiple bundles.
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>>79949258
Because I live in a nation that was founded on the ideal of personal freedom. Even if it doesn't live up to that ideal, I can still fight for it.
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>>79956461
>founded on the ideal of personal freedom
ahahaha
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>>79955472

To be honest the idea of pan slavism in the Balkans died before nationalism began. The division of faith and foreign empires meant that there is no hope in hell of Croatia and Serbia truly uniting without one conquering the other.
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>>79955472
>attacked

You mean defended against crazy Serbs and Soviets?
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>>79956461

>muh freedumbs!!!

Name one freedom people in a fascist state would lack compared to modern Murica
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>>79955472
>Screw Utasha. They suck. They attacked their Slavic brothers instead of uniting with them. They're no different than the Azov Battalion in Ukraine.
Not the guy you replied to but they wanted a racially pure state, just like all axis powers at the time.
And just like the rest of the holocaust, the systematic killings in NDH are a complete lie:
>In 1950, the official figure for Jasenovac was 1.2 million killed
>Then it dropped to 750,000
>Today, it stands around 70,000
...and even that number has no basis in reality, as census data clearly shows Serbs were deported.

Also, Serbian Chetniks and Croatian Ustaše cooperated in rounding up and deporting jews and gypsies, and they were the only ones in Europe to actually get the job done.

Pre WW2:
>Croatia: ~20,000 jews
>Serbia: ~33,000 jews
Today:
>Croatia: 509 jews
>Serbia: ~700 jews
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>>79957331
the freedom to be responsible to your nation fate.
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>>79957956

Nope. People in a fascist state are at the forefront of building the nation. They are engaged and share the vision of developing society. Everyone contributes according to his power.

The exact opposite of so called democracy were people are discouraged to get involved in civil society and are expected to make a meaningless decision periodically. 30-40% if people in a democracy don't even bother to vote.
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>>79949258

Which fascist movement has the hashtag as its symbol? Pretty fashion forward if you ask me.
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>>79958420
Romanian.
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>>79958335
machines have no responsibility.
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>>79949258
I like pissing on the heads of Antifa members.

Why hasn't this bitch been fired yet?
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>>79949258
Replace weed with fascism
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>>79949258
>It's 2016. Why aren't you a fascist yet?
If by fascist you mean whatever liberals despise most politically and personally, I would say that I am.

However I fucking hate socialists and socialism, and believe that, economically, people should be able to run their business and generally trade with each other without the state constantly interfering.
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>>79958538

Not an argument. You are not a machine in a fascist state. Fascism respects and preserves the dignity of the individual whiile guiding him towards achieving higher goals outside his personal sphere. It's very inspiring actually I wish I was a better English speaker so I could convey my thoughts better
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>>79949258
i don't like leftists
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>>79949258
Fascist here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KtoKsT6fLI
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>>79950179
José Antonio was a fascist, though. National-syndicalist as oposed to actual nationalism and corporatism, but essentially he created the Spanish fascism.
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>>79958727
democracy you take part in shaping the future by voting for who will be the leader

fasicm your actions can be done just by anyone else. its not you who shape the future, you are just a tool in the hands of your leader, hance machines.

fasicm is only about a single indviduaal- the leader. the rest 'individuals' may have fun life, but the more fascist a state, the more likely their goals in life will be what they ware told their goals should be when they ware young.
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>>79949258
>It's 2016. Why aren't you a fascist yet?
I just don't see the advantage. I believe a fascist society can work, I just don't think it's a society I'd like to live in.

For one, fascism has too much of a habit of getting on people's case about shit I don't think the government needs to give a shit about.

More time freaking out about bullshit = Less time actually being productive.

Pinochet was kind of based but beyond that I super don't like them.
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>>79949258
I have respect for human life
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>>79959258
>t. remain voter

And fascists don't?
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>>79959258
Fascism today isn't about securing the future. Everything is already diseased beyond saving and thus lost.

Fascism today is about final struggle with the Serpentine KikeLeft. Final defiance before the End of Kali Yuga.

And it is the greatest struggle ever taken by any men that ever lived.
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>>79951161
Can't find it famalam.
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>>79959660
GoT is bad and you should feel bad for letting it influance you so.
final shodown between good and evil? really?
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>>79949258
Because nations rise and fall, and I'm building something eternal
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>>79958684
>drinking weed
>not freebasing it
seriously though, green dragon is pretty great.
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>>79950071
You know, I'm gonna have to go with muscollini on this one. There are no biologically pure races.

But, on the other hand, that doesn't mean a master ethnicity isn't possible to build

Muscollini also had a vested interest in not being in on masterrace theory, seeing as many Italians are muds
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Tell me /pol/, who is the true masterrace?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10680326/r
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>>79950296
It didn't fail though. In a nation smaller than the state of Wisconsin, it still took the combined efforts of the United States, the British empire, and the Soviet Union, just to bring that one tiny country down.

To me, that shows both the strengths of fascism, but also how held back nations are because of central banks as opposed to nationalized banks
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>>79951159
All of these qualities happen to be qualities of the ethno religion I am making.
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>>79949258
>current year
>why don't you share my ideology haha cuck is a funny word
>oh you're not a NatSoc? Le ebig subberfag :DDD
Fuck off
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>>79960650
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10680326/r
wrong link? its only blue eyes poll.

well whatever.
ill vote for the japs.
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>>79952668
>fascist tic tac toe board
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>>79955289
An AI would be completely fine with lying. An AI would be total the end justifies the memes. Don't base your understanding of it off of LARPing
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>>79950071
All National Socialists are Fascists, not all Fascists are National Socialists
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Out of interest, do any of you lads see fascism as a temporary means rather than an end? I mean, as a way back to traditionalism that would be discarded eventually?
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>>79949258
SIEG HEIL
american nat soc reporting in
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>>79961865
yes
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>>79949258
Nationalist reporting in.
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>>79950741
JUDE DETECTED

>>79961865
I see it as an updated version of monarchism with the needs of the nation put above all else when it comes to economic and social questions
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>>79962216

Regarding putting the state before individuals, is there any room for more or less authoritarianism on that, or does it have to be absolute? I ask because I can see the value in less selfishness and more dedication to the whole but if it means completely crushing the individual then who is it all for in the end? What's the point in an endless well-oiled state that nobody can enjoy at all?
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>>79962602
If its good for the nation, encourage it
If its bad for the nation, punish it
If its neutral when it comes to the nation, allow it.

Fags get gassed, families get support (or we help create them etc), video games are allowed

This is how it works
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>>79963395
> families get support
>the working man get more taxes
>the industry moves away
>the GDP goes down

bad goy. you just harmed your own nation.
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>>79963395

What about things that are bad for the nation in excess/normalised but a private matter if kept underground? For example too many young men sitting indoors playing games all the time is obviously bad but you can't gas everyone with an xbox on that basis, surely? How invasive would the state have to be in 'weeding out' vice rather than addressing it if and when it became a problem?
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>>79963395
This sums it up quite well I'd say.

>>79963677
>families get support
>the working man get more taxes
No. One does not necessarily lead to the other - there are numerous other financial sources (like stop giving free money to Israel for a start), but also way to support families without directly financing them (ie. regulations)
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>>79949258
Dmowski wasn't fascist you stupid piece of breathing fat.
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>>79949258
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>>79963897
>croatia
>gives free money to israel
jokes aside

every penny you could have given to families you might as well spent on industry.
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>>79963802
You can't play video games and watch porn all day if you have work and a family to take care of

>>79963677
Implying we won't just liqudate your fellow kike bankers

>>79963897
It really does

>>79964131
EMBRACE FASCISM BROTHER
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>>79964584
>violance will solve it
lol
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>>79949258
i just want to continue western civilization and the white race which enables it. whichever politician does the best job of doing this is fine with me
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>>79964558
>every penny you could have given to families you might as well spent on industry.
From a simplistic viewpoint, yeah, you still have the same amount of money in the system.

In reality it's not the same tho.
Investing the money into industry promotes industrial growth, which very gradually over several years increases wages.
Investing the money directly into families increases both birthrates and public spending. The money much faster goes from families to companies then the other way around, and you also contributed to solving the demographic problem (which pretty much every developed country has)
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>>79965015
>israel steal american uranium
stopped reading there. edit this list with only the facts and try again.
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>>79949258
Because I'm not 15

Classical liberalism is the only ideology worth shit
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>>79963677
> the working man get more taxes
> the industry moves away
??? wut?
Explain the connection there.
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It doesn't work. It doesn't make men free, or prosperous or happy.
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>>79965142
He's right tho.
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>>79965131
>birthrate
quality over quantity, but what do i know? everyone know families with many childrens are more succesful than families with few. i meant productive, success is for filthy capitalists.

>public spending
who says that public spending will stay in the country? who says the spending thatxs in borders will be in fields that are good for the country?
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>>79965257
the industry moves to a palce where it can make same profit but with less expanses.
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>>79965332
>starts with a few facts
>continue with shit. hey we started with facts, so everything must be true!
>end with facts, just in case.

yeah go fuck yourself.
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>>79949258

captcha:1914
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>>79958684
>Not even change the image by itself.
Lazy scum, that's why you hate fascism. Maybe if you move your ass once in a while you'll understand.
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>>79949258
When October comes and Italy collapses because their reform referendum looks set to fail. Our time comes again brother.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/italys-political-and-economic-crisis-threatens-europes-stability-2016-7

The EUSSR is dying and we're set to inherit it. The prophecy is coming true.
>>79950071
Germany was the stronger nation though and took the entire planet to take down it also gave us nearly everything we use today thanks to their racial unity and advanced 30 years ahead of everyone else due to their focus on putting nation before anything else ;)
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>>79949258
Das Jahr unseres Herr 2016 und Leute glauben immer noch, dass Faschismus und Rassenverehrung ihre Länder und Völker retten können.
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Ich bin bereit!

Read the filename.
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>>79966446
Das wird es auch.
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>>79965565
>everyone know families with many childrens are more succesful than families with few
They are, money isn't everything. A large family is the success, money is what you need to achieve that.
It's better to have a large family to support each other than a small family where you might have a few more shekels to spend on each member.
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>>79949258
I am, sadly fascism is almost non-existent in my country.
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>>79965928
ftfy
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>>79966799
Und warum denn? Gibts beweise oder auch vielleicht Bespiele dafür? Dagegen hab ich einen Bespiel.
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>>79967063
Hello similar flag country.

Come home, we've got a thriving fascist community!
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>>7996693
>success is about spreading your seed
for you maybe. i think you have the right to set that as your goal in life, but as humans i think we are more than breeding machines. whats worth a large family where you can't take care of everyone? whats worth more babies if they grow in poverty?
>thats why we support them
thats a lot of support that is needed. wouldn't it be better to encourage people to live within their means, so that people who want big familiy will do it by working harder so they could support more members?
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>>79967531
was meant for
>>79966936
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>>79967863
>no Salazar
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>>79967863
kek keep sucking that military cock
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>>79967216
Warum? Vielleicht weil Neger uns unterlegen sind?
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>>79967995
At least I'm sucking a winner.
>>79967938
Fair point.
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>>79967531
>where you can't take care of everyone
>working harder so they could support more members?
Hence the "family support" you were bitching about.
Obviously if your children are starving you don't have more.
But some of your kids sharing a room isn't the end of the world.
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>>79968096
a winner? what's that, some sort of trumpist ideology? shut up
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>>79949258
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>>79967996
Wie? Heut zu Tag sind Deutscher Heiden und Schwulverehrer, sind die wirklich etwas zu beschützen und eine Übermensch?
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>>79968371
R
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>>79968285
thats a lot of support that is needed. wouldn't it be better to encourage people to live within their means, so that people who want big familiy will do it by working harder so they could support more members?
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Why yes I am
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>>79949258
Because Julius Evola says you're all misguided retards.
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>>79955317
Bog i Hrvati prijatelju
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>>79949258
Because I enjoy winning wars and not stagnating economically
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>>79968586
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>>79968450
>thats a lot of support that is needed
I'm not recommending heavy welfare to pay for jobless Tyrone and his 10 kids, I'm recommending tax breaks on those that have children.
I'm recommending laws that help prioritize those with families over the childless.
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>>79968586
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phPjlRVGt7E
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>>79968316
Mussolini was strung up. Franco and Pinochet defeated Marxism.
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>>79965645
> "the industry"
You mean the workers who have chosen to live in a system that pays for their own expenses collectively?
China was "Communist" , America Capitalist ++
where did all the industry go? China.
> hehe, can Jews really only think in terms of globalism? do they think of factory owners as "the working man"?
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>>79949258
>no William Dudley Pelley
>no Fritz Julius Kuhn
>no GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL

come on lads don't leave America out
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>>79967368
I always kek at that picture for some reason
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>>79968912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSB4NrxW748
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mentoned :DDDDDDDDD
na stráž :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
BLES JOZEF DISO :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>79949258
>Nazi Germany - Millions dead or starving and economy destroyed
>Fascist Italy - Millions dead or starving and economy destroyed
>Francoist Spain - Millions dead or starving and economy destroyed until liberal reforms
'Why aren't you a fascist fascism has never failed ever except every single time it was implemented'
'It was worth it cause my skin is a few shades lighter'
'I have values beyond the economic so long as I don't personally suffer for it'
OP your ideology and post is cancer
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>>79968912
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>>79969369
Why?
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>>79969527
>Francoist Spain - Millions dead or starving and economy destroyed until liberal reforms
>Millions Dead
>Economy destroyed
Marxist lies.
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GUIS :DDDD
CHECK THIS NAZI SONG ITS SUPER COOL :DDDDDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6neQ_DNMjIo
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>>79969716
http://www.onthisdeity.com/17th-august-1963-%E2%80%93-the-execution-of-delgado-granados/
>For many, these unfortunates were but two more victims of an unrestrained and merciless tyrant estimated to have executed almost two million non-combatants between 1939-75, during his arduous near four-decade-long reign of terror.
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>>79952668
We where on the right side... sorry not sorry
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>>79969527
Fascist Italy total casualties 472,407 (actually these casualties include also non-fascist Italians, the country had a de facto civil war after Mussolini was deposed.

Mussolini's big mistake was being fooled by Hitler's initial victories. He knew rightly that Hitler was mad for wanting war but then he thought the fucker could pull it off and wanted to share in the spoils. Poor Benito, that Austrian shit-muncher had nothing on you. Come back!
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>>79970027
No use crying over spilled Communists.

Leftists bitch and moan about the Spanish Civil War and the purge of Soviet Funded Republicans afterwards, but they fail to show the situation in it's proper context. The Holodomor which killed 2-7 Million (all non-combatants) happened only a few years earlier:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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>>79968816
its the same principal. you are encouraging people to have kids, but some people just don't want to have families and instead just save for retirment. you gonna tell people how to live their lives? well, thats fasiscm for you.

>>79969289
next you gonna say the country will support all its needs by itself, and do all sceintific advanchment by itself as well
face it, we live in a small world. the internet make it so. safe oversees travels make it so. you want to live in the middle ages, and pretend it doesn't happen? do so but your country will suffer.
the market is open, and those that pretend it isn't will suffer for their wanton stupidity.
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>>79969527
wait..what?
You do realize that was because of war fought against them by those who were killing millions in their own systems right?
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>>79970429
>Anyone who disagrees with the mass slaughter of political dissidents is a leftist
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>>79970027
>conveniently forgets to back up his claim that the Spanish economy was destroyed under Franco

I think they called it the Spanish Miracle the economy was doing so well. fuck off communist
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>>79970653
Fascist regimes still killed millions of people (as all dictatorships eventually do) during their reign, even discounting the holocaust
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>>79956771
How cultually similar are they. If another power were to unite them by force, how many generations would it take to integrate? Also is it better for them to remain seperate states?
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>>79970881
The 'Spanish Miracle' was achieved through the implementation of liberal capitalist economic reforms previously forbidden under Franco
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>>79968371
Weil die Deutsche unter Gehirnwäsche sind.
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>>79949258
Jew know when I become dictator all z jewz, muzzies, apes, feminists and sjw are going in z oven
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>>79970984

The Spanish Miracle occurred from 1959-1974.

Franco's reign was from 1936 to 1975.

stop believing NKVD propaganda
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>>79970623
> next you gonna say the country will support all its needs by itself, and do all sceintific advanchment by itself as well
You mean live within its means by agreement with its population? Who said anything about sharing scientific information or supplying services? All you need to do is educate your population. If people are going to cry because "their" tax goes toward creating stability and security via creating stable families (and thus people to work for you while you are retired) then they can just gtfo, no biggie there.
I said
> ??? wut?
Because the conclusions you put forward don't match anything you are talking about.

Am i ignorant?
Should i go read a book?
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>>79970883
>Let us forget the fact that democratic UK and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around
>that tidbit of information is irrelevant
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>>79970783
Forgive me if you are not a leftie but, Communists and Anarchists in my country declared violent war on democracy decades ago. They are not "political dissidents" they are domestic terrorists used as surrogate hitmen for the current establishment.
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>>79970883
please provide an example "regime" that has not. From that we can draw comparison. considering it is one regime or another. The holocaust was part of a civil war during a revolution, as heavy handed as it was. Hitler should have gone with diplomacy instead of war.
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>>79949258

my parents aren't divorced so I don't need a masculine power fantasy to cope with my absent father
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Because fascism didn't work.

>Pic related, example of successful right-wing authoritarianism
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>>79971713
Pinochet's Chile. About 4 thousand people killed. Pinochet is often called a "fascist", even though no proper definition exists, even in academia.
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>>79971402
alright i see i need to rephrase myself

say person in your country need to buy tomatos.
he can go for local produce or foreign produce
foreign produce is cheaper beause better climate for tomatos make growing them cheaper so they can be sold cheaper as well

1. local produce
money stays in the country
person has less to spend on other stuff, like clothes and services, so overall life quality won't be as high

2. foreign produce
country loses money
person asmore money to spend on other stuff, so the industries that aren't farminng are a bit better off
farmers make less money
they start working in more profitable works or growing more profitable produce
slowly the economy reverts to what is native for it and relies on import for other stuff
and thats how the tomato industry moved away
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>>79972150
> Please provide and example of a regime ANY regime (fascism or not) that did NOT kill millions.
>NOT.
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>>79972150

Pinochet wasn't a fascist though- his Junta was a temporary military takeover of Chile to eradicate communist influence in the country. Much like Cincinnatus, he handed power back over to the people after he was certain that the red menace was no more.
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>>79972485
4 tousands isn't millions, tbqh
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Question: Is freedom of expression still possible in a Fascist state?
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>>79972518
I agree. Greatest anti-communist of all time.
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>>79972681
Depends which one.
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>a fucking lightning bolt

Why do Brits have zero taste
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“Most people presumably, would agree that democracy, despite its faults is the best political system on offer. But I have lived in Predappio for five years, where Mussolini was born, and is buried like a minor deity. And when I see a beautiful young woman doing the Roman salute in front of Mussolini’s tomb I realize that she is yearning for something. And I know that whatever it is, it is not democracy.”
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>>79953140
>tfw no one ever includes Irish fascism
it has such a cool symbol as well.
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>>79972745
Well I'm not very knowledgeable of Fascism (thus the question), so a better question would be: Do any forms of Fascism have freedom of expression?
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>>79972337
...Sry but this line of thinking is so far removed from the original subject. Having an economic system that is collective at the national level doesn't mean you don't trade. It also has fuck all to do with complying with a tax to support the next generation of tax payers (to fund your pension) as opposed to paying for it yourself or importing people from outside to pay for it.
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>>79973325
> Do any forms of Fascism have freedom of expression?
/pol/
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>>79973672

i just gave you an examplle of how an industry can move away due to lack of profit, that is all.

if you support local industry than the tomatos don't have to be more expensive than the compatition. you can make sure people get their tomatos cheap AND all their money stays in the country.
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>>79972866
Comic books took it from that not the other way around.
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>>79973908
/pol/ isn't fascist, its just full of fascists.
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>>79969514
Hopefully more fascists take power in your country
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>>79973325
Read Fascism:100 Questions Asked and Answered by Oswald Mosley
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What went wrong?
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>>79969498
Utasha may be scum but they do make some fine music
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>>79969764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=copNh7aQU6k
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>>79972681
I suspect it wouldn't be much different from what we have now in most of the West, except it would be communism and globalism that would be demonized.

Every state protects itself, this isn't new.
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>>79949258
Who's the guy on the far left in pic related?
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>>79972518
>Saves country from Bolshevism and presides over the most successful economy of the entire continent
>The country he saved charges him with hundreds of crimes and puts him under house arrest until he dies

Fucking leftists
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>>79953956
>Closely ideological to Benito

kys

MEXICAN MONARCHY FOREVER!!!
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>>79975645
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso
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br memelords please tell me what is our fascist symbol
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>>79976023
The Austrian fascists wanted an independent Austria so forget them.
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>>79976413
Σ
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>>79959070
No. In democracy you lose the right to shape the future based on unreliable methodology.
BEING the head of the nations architecture dept, head of the medical board. Training to be the head of these things and influencing them DIRECTLY based on your knowledge.
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>>79977262
right on
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>>79949258
2006- everybody loves capitalism, people were most right wing and the west was praised.

2016- everybody support marxism degeneracy, gay marriage and immigration, the west is demonized.

2026- ????
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>>79977262
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there's literally nothing wrong with being jewish
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>>79977262
Authoritarianism is the way!!
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>>79978032
We're not talking about Jewish people

btw there were Jewish fascists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)
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>>79949258
i toyed with the idea and thought myself fit for. but i realized you have to be able to trace lineage to master race for fascism.

and when america fill of 'sub-humans' can beat everyone up... its just alcoholic dreams that people can't let go of.

modern subhuman democro-fascism aka reverse racism ftw. today.
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>>79978574

we've got the Grand Council of Fascism's top codebreakers working 24/7 to figure out what the fuck you just said
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>>79949258
>Dmowski, ONR
>next to fascists and Nazis
OP has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of history
His party was called National Democracy for fucks sake.
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>ITT: /pol/ circlejerks over dead and redundant ideologies for 6,000,000th time
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>>79978808

The present day Russian fascist party is called the "Liberal Democratic Party"

labels mean nothing
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>>79978808
PS. Dmowski and ND party were in favor of closer ties with Russia and against closer ties with Germany or UK. That's why Piłsudski was opposing him cause he was anti-Russia and was in favor of getting closer with Germany to oppose Russia.
So now grouping Dmowski and ONR with Fascists and Nazis makes no logical sense.
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>>79977262
>Training to be the head of these things
and if they are selected based on politics or nepotism? What then? Democracy is more than just voting, it's right to insight in decisions, oversight and accountability. It often falls short of these ideals, but authoritarianism doesn't fix these problems, it just gives up and hopes for the best.
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>>79952773
Wow man.

That is the best definition of fascism I ever Heard, and I have watched several TV programs where intellectuals tried to define it.
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>>79951382
so one monkey with the power of millions? imagine the clarity and what a people could accomplish, Chaim.
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>>79949258
Facist dictatorships only last as long as the leader you tit
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>>79980951
That's because liberalism rises as soon as the leader dies
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>>79980951
>he doesn't know about the Roman empire
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>>79980084
> based on politics or nepotism?
I don't think you understand the spirit of NS/fascism. EVERYONE is family, it IS nepotism. It's not a democracy so they can't be chosen for their politics only their performance. You also know full well that this is what happens in Democracies. Politically, Obama is a blip in what would otherwise be a string of political dynasties. People have inheritances and protect that from the benefit of wider society via legal loopholes. (a blessing of the "Democracy is more than just voting" system )
> Democracy is more than just voting, it's right to insight in decisions, oversight and accountability.
NS/fascism came about at a time of high tension and the potential for war was always there. Having a nice open transparent system wasn't an option.
Authoritarianism is the overarching name for a system. You can have meritocratic authoritarianism or nepotist or corrupt using many different forms. It's both a culture and a political system. Hence the cultural education provided at a young age to instill values.
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>>79982550
>Monarchism
>Fascism

Wew
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>>79983314
>monarchism and fascism are incompatible

are you kidding me??
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>>79980951
Dictatorships only last as long as their leader. Who is then replaced by another dictator. Their only job is to oversee society. Hitler, Mussolini etc were revolutionaries.
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>>79984070

They were revolutionaries against the revolution
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>>79949258
Because it's a failed post-French Revolutionary ideology with no substance behind it. The kings of Europe would be ashamed to see what gets called traditionalism now.
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>>79949258
Éljen Szálasi!
>tfw you never gonna shoot jews into the Duna
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>>79953353
lel nice having someone save the pic I always use for fascism is not nazism meme.
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>>79950741
Some of us are cattle, right?
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