>Ross Douthat says that the true divide in Western politics is now between globalists and nationalists — and this divide is tribal. He explains the identifying markers of the Cosmopolitan tribe, i.e., what makes them different from the nationalist tribe (among them: their “out group” is Evangelical Christians). Douthat says there’s not necessarily anything wrong with this. A propensity for tribalism is part of human nature.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/cultured-hicks/
I think this is right. The elite is rootless, without any loyalties and extracts resources from the workers who are tied in place by housing, language, culture, friends and family. Tied to the the land like the serfs of old and ruled by a transnational elite.
What do you think?
Whites vs everybody else
>ftfy
It's Rich vs. Poor. Always has been, always will be.
The sooner you people realize this, the sooner we can start fighting back. Marx wasn't right about everything, but he was right about class struggle
>>79869654
No its this, globalism is a symptom of modernism and so is nationalism to a degree.
>>79869654
tl;dr
dat ass tho
>>79870186
The modernism Jew is inevitable. People will never stop researching new tech, never stop coming up with new ideas, and never stop wanting internet and cars.
>>79870160
>At the present juncture, the only force strong enough to resist this shock doctrine globalism-at-gunpoint crisis methodology is economic nationalism. Sure, nationalism is a drag, outmoded, and overly narrow in perspective. Many historical complaints can be legitimately set against it. In the long run, it is not the way to go for the planet or its inhabitants. But right now it is the only force strong enough to stand up to neo-liberal globalism. At the moment, as that wicked witch Maggie famously said, "There is no alternative." A movement of a few naive students have not been able to stand up to globalism, and neither have 1 million people occupying a nation's central square. Effective resistance to this global process -- an intentional run-down to the lowest common denominator of wealth, health, security, etc., and a run-up to the highest common denominator of pollution and ecological destruction, all in favor of corporate rights owned by a few people and enforced at the end of a gun -- without an effective global strategy and sustained global support, is merely wishful thinking, i.e., hope. Yet, we are are nowhere near that point of resistance yet, and with the aid of these moribund intellectuals, fecklessly yet sanctimoniously targeting one "monster" at a time, we may never get there. In my humble opinion, economic nationalism must be seen as a stepping stone away from centralized unaccountable globalism towards a more decentralized, economically just world. If I should be mistaken, I welcome any viable alternative strategies. Perhaps the feckless left will invite me to sign their petition!
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2013/05/syria-the-feckless-left-.html
Perhaps you'd be interested in this article.
>>79870631
Modern stuff is not modernism
>>79870631
There's nothing inherently wrong with technology. The problem is nihilism and the liberal idea that you can opt out of every circumstance you were born with.
>>79869654
Very interesting. I personally always saw it as Templars (Masons) vs Assassins. The first build things (like walls and governments), and prefer slow, but steady change, and the other are a bunch of fast-acting loudmouths relying on the idiocy of the general public and flashy displays, like violence and humanities newspeak. The second side shouldn't exist. Which is why you should look into the following petition:
SIGN THIS PETITION: https://www.change.org/p/berkeley-unified-school-district-fire-yvette-felarca
THEY WILL COME FOR YOU: https://web.archive.org/web/20060623230746/http://www.chetlyzarko.com/bamn-terror.html
THEY WILL BLAME ANYONE FOR THEIR VIOLENCE, BESIDES THEMSELVES:
http://fusion.net/story/319671/yvette-felarca-is-anti-neo-nazi/
> “I hold Donald Trump responsible for this,” Felarca told Berkeleyside. “His politics of racist demagoguery and hate is inciting these vile threats of violence, even against children. It exposes why Trump and his racist, Nazi, and KKK supporters need to be defeated—and it shows us what Donald Trump’s vision for America really is.”
THEY STABBED INNOCENTS IN SACRAMENTO, AND WERE KNOWN TO THREATEN OTHERS WITH KNIVES:
https://youtu.be/Ou_XUHgnNNI?t=3m55s [Embed]
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/fund112006.php3
> Just last June Ms. Gratz filed a report with Detroit police accusing Luke Massie, national chairman of the activist group By Any Means Necessary, of displaying a knife during a heated confrontation outside a state civil rights meeting. "It was one of several attempts to either intimidate me or attack my character," she said yesterday in an interview after a speech she gave at the National Association of Scholars meeting in Boston. She said Mr. Massie had a knife in his right pants pocket and toyed with it, pulling it halfway out of his pants but not drawing its blade. Mr. Massie denies the allegation.
>>79870985
Holy shit, I've been thinking about Nationalism as a response to Globalism ever since Brexit. Thank you Fin friend, great article
Bourgeoisie vs. Proletariat
Take the true Red Pill
>>79869654
>and extracts resources from the workers who are tied in place by housing,
>Spouting Marxist LTV dribble
>In any context
>>79871111
No, but technology drove the rise of modernism, and people are now too hooked on the electric Jew to give a shit about what's going on around them. In the words of Carlin "Americans have been bought off by cheap gadgets. Everyone has a phone that'll make them pancakes and rub their balls. Too prosperous for their own good"
>>79869654
I came to same conclusions
>>79870284
>>79870985
>an intentional run-down to the lowest common denominator of wealth, health, security, etc., and a run-up to the highest common denominator of pollution and ecological destruction
Immediately discarded
The exact opposite is true to the world we live in on every single count.
Human standard of living and quality of goods and services are higher than they've ever been in human history and constantly improving all over the world especially the thrid world.
Pollution is lower than it was in the 1960s due to technological advancement and there is more natural plant life on earth than there was 100 years ago.
Make your arguments for either side but all of those claims are objectively false
>>79871410
>Marxist LTV
What do know, an idiot. LTV was used by classical economists like Smith and Ricardo long before Marx. Marx just used their concept
>>79871712
>Human standard of living and quality of goods and services are higher than they've ever been in human history and constantly improving all over the world especially the thrid world.
>Pollution is lower than it was in the 1960s due to technological advancement and there is more natural plant life on earth than there was 100 years ago.
Wrong.
>>79871644
>>79869875
Whites vs. Whites
No one else can actually keep us in check.
>>79871410
>who are tied in place by housing, language, culture, friends and family
In this context is absolutely relevant. We can agree that venturing into anti-capitalist rhetoric/action is a non-starter because not even the very people who define themselves as anti-capitalist have been able to thwart it but it is undeniable that we are in a phase where global capitalism is picking away at our daily lives and traditions. A simple example I hear all the time: Youth can barely find jobs beyond moving out from their tight-knit communities and into cosmopolitan ghettos as programmers/tech work. This is just another phase of the break up the family. The only middle ground between anti-capitalism and capitalism is a capitalism that works for us. i.e White Capitalism, or a white George Soros, White corporate elite if you will.
>>79871712
>Human standard of living and quality of goods and services are higher than they've ever been in human history and constantly improving all over the world especially the thrid world
That's true, but despite 3rd world growth (and occasionally as a consequence of it), the 1st world suffers. It reminds me of how Obama likes to talk about the jobs he created. He doesn't mention the fact that most of this job growth was growth for the top 20% while the bottom 80% stagnates or, in the case of the middle class, declines.
The future that Obama wants is clear: a very wealthy elite and a poor working class that will slowly be phased out by mechanization and put of permanent income from the gov't
>>79871865
You honestly can't say with a straight face that the west isn't the richest it has ever been in history.
>>79869654
>>79870160
You're an idiot. Entrenched power structures exist in all societies. You're just trading one for another if you look to communism.
>>79872476
I never said I was a communist. I said class struggle is real. Ideally, I'd want some kind of system of government that protects the rights of all classes equally. I don't want to kill rich people, I just don't want them to unilaterally control legislation
I mean, US politicians don't even write laws. Lobbyists do. Think about that.
>>79869654
*BRRRRRRRRRAP*
>>79869654
>there’s not necessarily anything wrong with this. A propensity for tribalism is part of human nature.
Just because something is "part of human nature" doesn't mean that it's above criticism or can't be reined in.
>>79870160
Then what the fuck happens to the middle class? (aka most of 4chan users)
in a true class war we'd be strung up, whether by the rich elite or the lower classes.
Though you're still right it's just that the "rich" is really a tiny subset of the 0.00000001% vs everyone else and they get the other classes to fight each other
>>79870631
sadly you're right, doesn't mean technology isn't evil
>>79872812
make no mistake, the elite can take more from us than they can from the poor.
siding with them in the current environment where they dont care about keeping the middle class happy is economic suicide
>>79872812
I think as the gap between the top 20% and the bottom 80% widens, more people will come to see that as the REAL divide in America. Religion, race, sexual orientation, etc will fall by the wayside and we'll see an honest to god class struggle. I doubt it'll be a war. More like a political fight. Bernie/Trump types against Clinton types
>>79870186
Why is individualism part of modernism? Collectivism is being pushed way more nowadays.
>>79873942
I don't know where that leaves me as someone who's clearly top 20% (as a software engineer) but hates the attitude of most of them. I want nothing more than to figure out how to live off the grid as soon as I can develop the needed skills.
I'm already seeing the anti-tech sentiment rise all over (look at what's been going on in San Francisco) and feeling my own conscience eat at me
Traitor who will die on the day of the rope I presume
>>79874038
How so? Maybe in Australia, but in the US, Individualism is by far the dominant way to look at society. No one gives a fuck about other people here. I mean, people bash the fucking poor people in the US.
>>79872812
>4chan
>middle class
Top kek lads. Being NEET means you are poor. Straight up.
>>79874293
I now make $135k per year and have a net worth of $300k.. pretty sure I'm squarely in the middle class
>>79874203
I mean, just because you have money doesn't mean you can't be an economic populist. And like I said, it won't be a violent movement, it'll be a political one.
>>79874293
Not really, being a NEET means your family is rich enough to sustain you. Most of the NEETS here live off their parents, few are on welfare (at least in America).
>>79874291
It's both really, collectivist when it benefits them and individualism when it benefits them. See the hipster movement: "Individualism" That's actually a hivemind at the same time.
>>79874507
contd.
Compare SJW shit or hippie communes (fake "collectivist individualism") to REAL collectivism (Monasteries, or the Amish). BIG difference.
>>79874291
The whole globalist pc culture operates on being needlessly accepting of others even if it goes against your best interests.
You are expected to support people you've never met.
I'm talking about real individualism, the right to determine your own fate and live your life regardless of what the community wants you to do. People today are over socialized.
>>79874744
Really a traditional society needs both in different places.
Collectivism and authority =/= totalitarianism. Compare monarchies and the feudal system to Communist dictatorship.
The former is organic and accepts inequality while still respecting all tiers , the latter is forced and still obsessed with egalitarianism
>>79874660
pretty much this. Humans naturally operate in groups of 50 to 100, like minded or related individuals. This would be your clan or tribe.
the media today pushes the idea that the whole world is your tribe and that the culture of a somalian rapist is perfectly compatible with western liberal ideals.
>>79874744
>People today are over socialized.
This is true, but forced groupthink that's not the same as "collectivism." Close knit communities are vastly different than the overstimulating hellhole of large cities or the Internet.
Traditional collectivism doesn't mean no privacy or respect for boundaries.
>>79874038
The SJW mentality is an extreme version of individualism. Basically if you believe that individuals have innate rights that must be protected and/or recognized by the government then you are a modernist and should fuck off to commie land.
>>79875028
The kind of individualism that the original poster means to attack in his image is the kind that prefers the selfish individual at all costs over even the family and small tribe. Rebellion against elders etc.
This isn't the same thing as being against the current degenerate oligarchy
>>79870160
but class mobility is way easier than national mobility.
>>79875246
so basically , that includes all 4channers who say "internet free speech" is a right.
haha the hypocrisy of this place.
4chan is definitive proof that individualism is degenerate. There's no justification to be against internet censorship and for anonymity.
and really even the right to bear arms is modernist crap.
This is a hard truth to realize
>>79875280
I see, so it basically stems from moral relativism, that the world must conform to how I view myself.
>>79875246
The whole point of the government is to defend your innate rights dipshit. Problem is is that people today are too entitled as to what those rights are.
Everyone promoting the pan-European project is a Jew shill for white genocide.
>>http://forward.com/opinion/340091/why-jews-need-the-european-union-warts-and-all/
>socialist Europe
>breeding whites with africans/arabs
>>79875533
and you lost me. Do you mean that the right to bear arms is modernist as in guns are a modern invention? or that the right to defend yourself does not exist?
>>79869654
Its the Marian reforms all over again. This immediately preceded the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of the empire.
>>79869654
> The elite is rootless, without any loyalties and extracts resources from the workers who are tied in place by housing, language, culture, friends and family. Tied to the the land like the serfs of old and ruled by a transnational elite.
This is exactly the modern world
History is repeating itself or rhyming
Notice how the middle class is shrinking or rather being shrunk by the elites policies
Notice how normal people can no longer afford nice homes, private transportation and increasingly good food
>>79875592
actually, that's just what Freemasons tell you.
Constitution was always a lie. You never had any innate rights, and they're just taking away what they could at any time.
It's hard to come to the truth when you grew up in the Anglosphere, but the truth is America IS the bad guy.
>>79875592
>muh rights
You aren't a conservative. You are a liberal reactionary and are therefore ultimately still part of the problem. Sorry to hurt your feelings but it's the truth.
>>79875831
if you support 4chan's format of anonymity you're compromised by liberal beliefs.
Fact. 4chan is inherently leftist by nature, as is the Internet as a system of communication.
Moderated forums are actually much more conservative than any chan. The Irony is palpable.
>>79875724
It has become impossible to ignore the parallels between the West and Rome, as well as the other great civilizations. They all follow a startlingly similar course.
>>79871286
I hole-hardedly agree, but allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all in tents of purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go. Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the facts. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it's a peach of cake.
>>79876249
Compare 4chan to a Western democracy with open borders.
It was flawed from its inception, and lacked a hierarchy and system of repelling invaders.
So just like the current situation is the West's fault, so is the degradation of /pol/ 4chan's fault from the beginning.
>>79875831
so you're saying that if I'm strong enough, I can come into your home, rape your family, kill you, and steal all your shit and be perfectly justified in doing so because we have no rights?
>>79869654
I think on a micro level it is "people who want to be left alone" versus "people who don't want to leave them alone"
and those groups work out on a macro level to:
"nationalists" versus "globalists"
>>79875533
it's not supposed to be a "right" that can be banned or not banned. It's supposed to go along with the ethical belief that if someone wants to kill you, you can kill them, but transposed in modern terms.
The Constitution is not supposed to be a law document, it's supposed to be basically sovereign law, something that can't be changed, the law the people follow. Rights can't be made illegal.
>>79869654
It's right in very shallow ways.
The international system is deeply complex and far more involved in making the world go round than any NYT columnist (or most politicians) understand.
The left-right divide was never perfect, but it captures the collectivism vs individualism dichotomy quite nicely - and that's the main problem that states have to solve
look at the political alignment quizzes, there's already more than one axis. The Y axis is statist vs anarchist. If you put a Z axis and turn the 2d model into a 3d one, then it might make sense to talk about globalist vs nationalist, but even then, there's something excessive about that.
Let me put it this way. Before the current "globalist NWO takeover the world" project, there was an ACTUAL Globalist takeover the world project
The Soviet Union, the doctrines of permanent revolution and the international struggle of the working class worldwide. The Communist Internationale was the seat of a communist party from every country, the ones in power (Russia, satellite states, CHina, vietnam, etc) were actively engaged in exporting the revolution to countries that didn't have communsim yet (weapons, money, covert ops, etc).
Is that globalist? Sure. It's Communist globalism.
Modern "Globalism" is much less like this. The Commiees are right when they say that financial capital is a significant part of the ruling class of it (look at the IMF/WB). But it's also the WTO, which has ensured a much freer business climate the world over. It's also the UNHCR, which ensures the rights of people in conflicts are taken care of (this was hard as fuck before the UN). The OHCHR which makes sure human rights abuses are denounced and its victims taken care of. WIPO ensures the enforcement of patents and intellectual property the world over.
Which is to say, that today's globalism is liberal, individualistic, and anarchist in essence. There are exceptions.
The point is that "left right" still applies far more than u think
>>79869654
>American nationalists
What the fuck is wrong with them? Globalism isn't the force threatening to destroy america. Globalism is the way we make everyone else into america. We're already getting close. Country by country is getting infected with western values, capitalism... maybe even natural rights? The process isn't perfect, and there will always be cultural differences, but a globalized world is an americanized world, as far as I'm concerned. It seems to be our win condition. Why abandon it?
>>79870284
Look closer.
>>79876419
no it's just that the concept of rights is an imaginary liberal construct. men have duties, only God has rights.
>>79870160
So was Hitler.
Today was the day that it was confirmed who killed Kennedy, 9/11 was an inside job, and the Holocaust never happened.
>>79876671
and where do our duties come from? The duty to protect your family comes from the right to self defense and self determination. The duty to gain and spread knowledge would be impossible without acknowledging the right to freedom of speech and thought.
If we are made in God's image then shouldn't we have similar rights?
>>79871644
this is shopped right?
>>79876661
Yep. You know the truth.
Now realize that the INTERNET is basically America's most insidious weapon to spread its filth around the world. That's why it was made by DARPA.
They tell you the net is neutral to keep your mind off of the fact that it's a NET (a trap to ensnare you). "net neutrality" is newspeak at its best.
>>79876985
you never have "freedom of thought."
Most of your thoughts if not all are not your own. They were planted in your head by the school, the media, your parents (if you were lucky) and the Internet. Including the thought that you ever had freedom of thought.
Soon
>>79876661
But American culture is filth killing the soul of the human race, why would you want it to take over?
>>79877405
that's pure bullshit, maybe if you're a moron who spent his life in front of a television, but if you go outside and experience the world on your own you form your own theories based on experience. Yes you gain new ideas from others, but ultimately you have the choice to decide which ideas you truly believe and which you do not.
>>79877588
He doesn't get it.
Internet culture is also American culture and thus the same filth. for crap's sake that's what 4chan's culture is. American filth no better than the rest of the places channers attack.
without the cancerous "muh freedom" rhetoric of America, the Internet would have been non-degenerate and restricted only to informational and educational use, no porn and entertainment and absolutely no addictive surrogates for real socialization (like this one)
>>79876364
Cultures just get tired, they're initially warlike and expansionist and then at some point they say fuck it and just sort of stagnate, and eventually are overtaken. Some of them just sort of sit around and then are reborn, i think that happened in both China and India. I think the West still has centuries of power left in it, but I wouldn't be surprised if in 200-400 years or whatever there is a fall of Rome type situation.
>>79872681
>he isn't a billionaire lobbyist that bribes politicians to make laws for him
Pleb detected lmaooo
>>79869654
>The people who consider themselves “cosmopolitan” in today’s West, by contrast, are part of a meritocratic order that transforms difference into similarity, by plucking the best and brightest from everywhere and homogenizing them into the peculiar species that we call “global citizens.”
>This species is racially diverse (within limits) and eager to assimilate the fun-seeming bits of foreign cultures — food, a touch of exotic spirituality. But no less than Brexit-voting Cornish villagers, our global citizens think and act as members of a tribe.
This is one case where it's worth it to read the original article
>>79877779
Are you the half-jewish lad who was on earlier talking about how your blood's cursed?
>>79876939
Hitler a National Foremost also a socialist Hence NATIONAL SOCIALIST(Fascist), for Classwafare? No like any other true national he was very much against it and for class cooperation.
He was definitely no marxist.
Criticizing Capitalism does not make you a Marxist nor does criticizing marxism make you a bourgeiouse(Capitalist).
>>79869654
You are right, the divisory line is there, everything else are nuances.
>>79869875
Right, a cultural marxist, globalist scum, with blonde hair and blue eyes, who HATES whites and wants to destroy your race, is your friend.
But a central asian farmer, who wants to leave peacefully on his town without getting disturbed, is clearly your enemy.
>>79870160
>It's Rich vs. Poor.
That's the typical mentality of an egotistical person. There are far more important things for me tan money, and even more important things than my own comfort.
For example, europe and europeans. Now go ahead and calle me a shitskin: I don't care, just beause my main concern is not myself, so even assuming I am mixed, that is of no relevance for the discussion.
Europeans and nationalist are killing themselves from the inside, not realizing where that divisory line is. I am glad some of you áre already seeing it.
Für dich, Europa!
>MFW you fucks will run your mouth on 4chins all day about how horrible globalists are, then take your fat ass to get food and buy shit that fuels globalization
>>79878368
What do you suggest everyone does? Starve to death?
>>79878241
>bourgeiouse
bourgeois*
>>79878266
Sieg Heil.
>>79877969
Barely worth it.
Douthat claims the "out-groups" the globalists are hateful towards are just evangelical Christians and little Englanders. In reality the globalists are bigoted against all Christians, racist against white people, and hate every traditional authentic western culture. Monsters like the current crop of "global" elites are no different than those who orchestrated the Reign of Terror in Revolutionary France or who ran the Gulags in The USSR.
>>79878368
>u think society is leik bad man but ur IN society bro! WHOOOAH MINDRUSH
go to bed Jimmy
Also being against globalism is a bit retarded, globalism is a result of technological innovations more than anything else, erasures of time and distance, cross-linguistic bridges, etc. As a political question it is obviously more complicated but it is a bit like hunter gatherers trying to fight the rise of agriculture, they are not going to win.
>>79877969
>They can’t see that their vision of history’s arc bending inexorably away from tribe and creed and nation-state looks to outsiders like something familiar from eras past: A powerful caste’s self-serving explanation for why it alone deserves to rule the world.
>>79871865
No it is 100% fact
Literally over 2 billion people have been uplifted out of objective poverty in the last 25 years.
Seriously fuck off.>>79872226
>fact that most of this job growth was growth for the top 20% while the bottom 80% stagnates or, in the case of the middle class, declines.
These brackets aren't some set pieces that people are stuck in at birth.
If you look at the IRS income data of individuals over their lifespan you'll find that around 70% of all Americans will make it to the top 20% in their lifetimes.
Not even to mention that the amount of people in the top 20% income bracket vastly outnumber the bottom 20%.
Yes there's issues but they're focused around government protectionism not globalisation.
>>79878581
>Can't even form a coherent response
You sure showed me
>>79871286
I just can't believe they felt safe stomping a guy right in front of police like that.
>>79869654
of course he is right
that is why /pol/ motto is
gas the kikes
race war now
>>79878466
Stop being an armchair political activist and do some fucking research on how to support your local economy? How fucking hard is it to put effort into something you apparently believe in?
>>79871770
The Marxian take on LTV has been bunk for 100 years and his entire thesis of "exploitation" revolving around his version of LTV is the most factually incorrect part of it.
The fact that youre defending it is just showing yourself as in ignorant Buffon
>>79870160
your a dorable
Of course he is right, the left-right dichotomy has been a distraction for goyim for a while now, when in reality there's much more at play. Both the right and the left in an aspect or the other play the globalist game, either by being full blown retard capitalists(the right) or by being full blown retard social progressives(the left). This is why early 20th century fascist-like movements painted themselves as different and as third position, because they understood what's happening.
>>79878758
Well what do you want for your trite observation, a medal?
>>79879046
A response that isn't literally retarded gibberish will do just fine
>>79869654
On mobile, who is this semen demon?
>>79878855
what have you done to support the local economy yourself?
If not you're no better than us
>>79879392
Except I support globalization 100%
Monoracials GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79878368
>Implying
I have chickens, and I grow vegetables. I make sure to buy almost everything else from local producers, and I have intentionally reduced my income to pay less taxes.
Not everyone here is an an armchair political activist or a fagot Straight out of /b/, so don't be so arrogant. Some of us actually do something (Actually, everything I do in my life is focused on political activism)
>>79878626
>bit retarded
How? Being against mass immigration, replacing entire populations, shifting massive good well-paid Jobs to third world-countries just so the big corporates, opening borders, unifying countries into one big world government with one currency and bank. And you tell is its a retarded thing being against? Leaf pls
>result of technological innovations more than anything else
No if anything it is the result of the "multi-cultural" experiment made across Western Nations, open borders, unions like the EU and the idea of a capitalistic world economy being linked to the USA.
>erasures of time and distance, cross-linguistic bridges
This shit could be possible with or without 'globalism'.
>hunter gatherers trying to fight the rise of agriculture, they are not going to win.
Globalism is a man-made materialistic ideology, while the struggle between hunter-gathers and farmers was nature taking it's course. They are not the same thing.
Bullshit. The real divide is between people who want to enforce their worldview with state power, and those who don't.
>>79880198
>third world-countries just so the big corporates
can have their slave labor*
>>79879862
Yeah? Did you build the house/apartment you're living in? All of the building materials are locally sourced? How about your car, local brand? Zero imported parts? Are all of your utility providers local and not linked to multinational corporations? How about that computer/phone you're typing on? Is your internet provider completely independent and local?
Lie to yourself all you want. You cucks are slaves to globalization. You can't exist without it. Accept it.
>>79879862
Also
>Spain
>"intentionally reduced my taxes"
Fucking gold
>>79880335
What is your point? Of course I use all of that, the point is to reduce it to a mínimum, and to not be dependant on it. We have to use it mainly because otherwise, we would be on great inferiority against our oponents. Anyways, I have no phone, I have the same computer since five years ago, the same car since 15 years ago (I use both of them only ocasionally anyways) and the house where I live was already here 500 years ago. It is the house of my family. I know you are all rootless (your country didn't even exist 500 years ago), but don't think everyone is the same.
>You can't exist without it. Accept it.
If I had to live on my own tomorrow, only of what I have around me, I would survive. That is the point.
Stop projecting.
>>79880960
You're arguing with someone who attached an image to every post
>>79876047
It's true, but it is a strange fact of history that despite the basic validity of your dichotomy, free speech helps the right more than it hurts us because the communication channels are not controlled by enlightened, long-term thinking owners, or mere selfish profit-maximizers, but by actual religious fanatics (progressives) who will create the worst of both worlds, authoritarian communication channels with the illusion of free speech that are pushed towards the general degeneration of society.
So, without little opportunity for neutral or even selfish curation, I'll take free speech over insane curators.
>>7988033 of course we are slaves to the globalist you idiot no one is denying that are you just here to be a cunt?
>>79870186
funny they use a roman soldier... an empire not willing to change and evolve fell tragically and painfully.
>>79880960
>>79882487
All you had to do was admit that you actively support globalization with your money. But instead all you care about is MUH ROOTS and beat around the bush for paragraphs until you admit that yes, you would rather support globalization than live without your first world comforts.
>>79882560
>an empire not willing to change and evolve
It falled because it became degenerate, as this one is becoming today.
>tragically and painfully
Germanic tribes had a surprisingly compassive attitude towards roman civilians, even for modern standards.
>>79881308
poorfag with a 10GB hard drive detected
>>79883116
>admit that you actively support globalization with your money
Yes I do, for the sake of the fight itself.
>yes, you would rather support globalization than live without your first world comforts.
Lol no, I would like to live here as my grandparents did, solely of what the earth gave to them.
What modern live conforts are you talking about? If you knew who I am and how my life is, you would not be talking shit.
>>79883116
Your point is basically the same shit as when people say "oh well you can't criticize white people because you have a computer and white people made computers and the internet"
this guy still right >>79878581
>>79869654
I wonder how red her ass would get if you slapped it.
>>79871644
Either that's shopped or her cunt is eating her suit.
>>79871111
Thank you.
Holy fuck, has /pol/ lost its way.
>>79883917
but it's still true that modern technologies have the modernist worldview built into them. See the Internet for the clearest example.
a "Traditional internet" would be closer to what China does, but really even stricter and have tiers of access for different social strata
>>79873073
Always a good day when ted is posted.
>>79883219
I should have said, slow and painful.
It blew itself up from within', because it wasn't willing to bring change. take at a look at all the ancient empires that are still 'around' in today's world. Greece, Egypt, Japan, India (I know it was fucked up by the Brits but it's heritage is still there). Rome had the same opportunity, but they were to freaked out by 'others' coming in and ruining their Roman lives. Were to hell bent on bringing Roman bullshit to everyone else's door step.
>>79873942
Sane in the uk. Farage and Corbyn types have more in common than the Blairites in both the labour party and the tory party.
When they recognise the allianice then we'll start making ground
>>79869654
it might end up being hedonistic people versus anti hedonistic
Thats bullshit, the meaningful divide is the same as its ever been and its between capitalist and proletariat
This attempt to frame a new political divide is capitalist damage control
>>79869654
It's not so much the elite, it's msotly jews. While evil rich whites and other racial elite exist, the corruption and misery is primarily caused by a very tiny minority of people in an extremely disproportionate sense. Jews are of course these perpetrators, and to defeat them will take years of preparation, guile, and resource gathering.
They are humans though, and thus are inherently flawed enough to be defeated as an ideological opponent. They key is media.
I will outline a comprehensive solution to the jewish menace, and to that of corrupt whites and east asians in service of the jew.
1) Gathering billions to buyout media.
It's shown by billionaires like Elon Musk, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates, that through the means of utilizing factors of production caucasians can achieve great wealth. This can be done through 2 avenues: investing, and entrepreneurship.
Investing is by far the easier of the two, and we whites should focus in that.
2) Subtly using media influence to turn populace against jews.
The jew will undoubtedly fight back, but it will be lost without it's media subversion, and thus it cannot buyback it's influence, lest it exposes itself as being in a war with whites.
3) After 20 years of subversion, the next generation can be primed for jewish genocide. In which the new youth of the world use the tools of science to identify jewish genetic clusters and eradicate them.
I might write a book on this, and post it on here for free for you autists to familiarize yourself with strategy against the jew.
>>79875401
No one says that 4chan isn't exactly that. It's the fact that SJW for instance hold contradicting views. Here, we know everyone is scum but we don't deny it. SJW do the opposite.
>>79879392
>If not you're no better than us
Who fucking cares how good he is, YOU should find the strength to improve not only your own life but the community that surrounds you.
You already have a weak mentality, and you will inevitably fail.
Point some more fingers
>>79877405
What a fucking stupid post
Fucking pseudo intellectuals man
>>79883478
For starters, how about your fucking computer you admitted to owning?
Christ, I knew /pol/ was retarded but not this brain dead.
>pointing out how anti-globalists support globalization constantly with their wallet
>talking shit
Do you even believe what you're typing at this point?
>>79870160
>Kill the rich that will fix everything!
>hey when is the new iphone coming out
>why havent we invented any new tech
>why has medical progress halted entirely
>why am i even poorer than before
>why am i so hungry
>i was supposed to get everything free
>this is the fault of fuking rich ppl!!!!!!!!!
>>79886200
This isn't an argument about goods or even prosperity. It's about culture and identity. It doesn't reduce to "stuff".
>>79869654
who is that penetration incarnation?
>>79886200
You aren't even arguing about whether being anti-globalism is right or wrong, you are just saying "haha you live in a globalist society and you can't escape". You are petty as fuck.
>>79874435
that's upper-middle stupid
>>79886292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE
