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What's up with the South Europeans(Italians, Spaniards,
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What's up with the South Europeans(Italians, Spaniards, Serbs, etc.) that look like arabs?

Are they a majority or a minority?
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majority
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Fucken subhuman Indios. Only thing your good for was mining gold. Now your useless.
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arabs have kinky hair, like a negro. Most southern euros have straight or curly hair.
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There is no standard phenotype in Spain. Also 90% of "dark" people you see are simply tanned.
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>>79862436
But there are common faces in Portugal for example. One here
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>>79860739
>german karolinger empire


kill yourself
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We didn't fight the reconquista for nothing

Most those guys are out there in the sun for hours everyday during practice
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Arabs and Berbers ruled Spain and Portugal for 1000 years, what do you expect?
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>>79859403
>stealthily includes Serbs who think they're the purest of the pure kebab removers

Haha, I love it.
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>>79862774
>>79862673
>>79862436
>look /pol/ we are so white! Please accept us!
Pathetic meds. Be proud of what you are.
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>>79863399
>serbs
>white
why would we Dinaric giants want to be included whit you manlets?
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Anyone who isnt blonde and blue eyed is not white.

If you are, but you have family that isnt blonde and blue eyed, you have shitskin genes and must be gassed.
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>>79863840
nice meme,Milo
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>>79859403
great minority here
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>>79860739
Insha Allah we will reconquer this land back!
Allahu Akbar let the moslems flow!
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>>79864026

pls go away landlocked country
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>>79863289
An army of 7000 berbers replaced the self-defeating Visigothic monarchy in Iberia, which had a native population of about 5 million composed of a celtiberian ethnic substrate with small Roman and Visigothic pockets (for example "Visigothic" Spain was only 1-2% Visigothic, and they were far more numerous than later arabs). Muslims did not migrate here, the native population converted to avoid higher taxes. Even Visigothic nobles converted and adopted arab names to remain in the nobility (example: Egilonda).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd-ar-Rahman_III
This guy had pale skin, blond hair and blue eyes.

As a curious anecdote, the invading berbers were just recently converted to islam, they were themselves christians that were conquered by arabs.
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>>79864889
I have been told you have great Casinos, uh?
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>>79863289
>what is La Reconquista and La Santa Inquisición

we are still more white than almost any current country. latin/iberians master race
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>>79863524
We are. That look is indeed the typical portuguese look, I look similar myself.
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>>79863289
By the way, they brought and made a lot of advancements in math, astronomy, medicine, architecture, agriculture... Córdoba became the largest city in the world, and all of this while the rest of Europe experienced the dark ages. And it would be weird to think they left us a "tainted" genetic legacy since right after the Reconquista we discovered America, conquered it and became the world superpower for several centuries, don't you think?
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>>79859403
Italians arn't white
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>>79865804

>conquered it and became the world superpower for several centuries, don't you think?

Ill preface this with

T R A F A L G A R

Also Spanish/Portufag colonies are shit, look at all the spanish speaking countries and compare them with the eternal anglo countries.

Suck on that, Pedro
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>>79863524
I was just showing typical portuguese faces.
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>>79866461
WW2 montenegrin?
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>>79859403
Italian 187 all day
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>>79865874
im white with green eyes and dirty blond hair
you are absolutely autistic
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>>79860739
>this is what headless moors actually believe
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>>79866461
What about Tralfagar? Spain wasn't even the main belligerent and was ruined by that point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias (England minted ELEVEN types of coins for this battle, and they lost)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Armada (beaten by peasants instead of decimated by weather like ours)

But I guess anglo cock is too deep down your throat to even be aware of these things. By the way, you should look at the difference between exploitation colonies and settlement colonies, and compare each type, let's see which metropolis fares worse.
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>>79867794

Nice memes kid, at one point your Mohammedian country owned all the gold in Europe yet you did nothing but siesta all day.

Also the complete fail that francoist spain was is megakeks.

Pls go away.
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>>79862774
That could pass as an Asturian. Nordic Portugues?

>>79862673
This face, although not common, is not uncommon here either.

>>79866906
That's Portugues as fuck, but in a good way, dunno how to explain it.
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>>79859403
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>>79863669
Yes, full arab here. also snackbar worshiper. And 2,16 m tall skullcrusher. Come at me bruh.
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>>79868666
that's right, check my fucking satanic trips
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>>79859403
Most aren't that dark but some are. Why the sudden curiosity, Mexico? Trying to see if you'll be able to fit in unnoticed?
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>>79868589
how can non dinarics even compete
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>>79868589
Disgustingly tall lanklet spotted
You're a freakshow
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>>79868264
The only memes I see here are yours. I suppose by "siesta all day" you mean acting as the executing arm of Habsburg policy in Europe and spending all the gold in continental wars.

Also I don't know what you mean by "megafail" since Francoist Spain was a traditionalist and conservative place and after abandoning autarchy it became the second fastest growing country in the world after Japan, becoming the ninth largest economy.
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can you really draw a line on a map dividing white and non white in europe? could you ever? if yes than where is this?
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>>79868993
>lanklet
no ones lanky here
we are all proportional giants
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>>79865874
Wonder who is behind this post...

Italians and spaniards are white, they just have a tan, if you take them to a cold place for awhile they turn really pale.
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Just gonna leave this here.

http://portuguesephenotype.blogspot.pt/search?updated-max=2013-05-28T16:04:00%2B01:00&max-results=1&start=15&by-date=false
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>>79869124

Again with the memes.

Franco was a megacuck and failure.

Along with the rest of your shitty country.

Shouldve invested that gold into not being failures, like the eternal anglo, kraut, baguette, or vodka.
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>>79868993
Sure, there is a thing with manlets. I understand this, in crowds you feel nervous since you can't see wtf is happening around you but me on the other hand can see shit around me miles away.
Due to this kind of behavior manlet feels threatened by many things and develop frustration and become shitposter on 4chin.
>>79868875
Not bad for all of these turkish rape babies around here. Remember dat Yuga basketball team.

Proud of not being white.
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>>79869287

Woops it starts here:

http://portuguesephenotype.blogspot.pt/2013/05/the-phenotype-of-portuguese.html
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>>79866461

Compare them to India, where people shit on the streets? Pakistan? Bangladesh?
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>>79869346

If only history was that fucking simple you pleb.

I bet yo uare like that kind of moron that plays armchair general/economist with history that is long gone.

>"OMG napoleon is a megacuck faggit, he could have won the war by investing more gold into ships"

Fucking pleb thinks his nigganometry degree is worth a damn.
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>>79860739
>german karolinger empire

Fuck you
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>>79861791
This, they don't look like Arabs, they just have darker complexions.

If you go to Saudi Arabia (actually pretty great to place to visit as a white guy, at least a few years ago) they are nappy as hell looking. Almost like they have nigger in their DNA. That's how you can tell Israelis from Arabs, Israelis are just more western looking with straight or curled hair and clan facial hair while arabs are nappy and and dirty even if they are rich arabs who bathe.
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>>79870574

Its actually very simple

Spanish/Portucucks got a head start on colonization/owning most of the mesoamerican gold and a nice share of trade and all that is left of them are shitholes because spic dick was thirsty for indians and niggers.

So yeah, you Iberians are massive failures.

Franco failed a foolproof ideology but I guess you cant expect much out of a people who prefer to siesta than work.
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>>79859403

Illyrian master race bruh. Remove Kebab, remove Schnitzel
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>>79871443
>That's how you can tell Israelis from Arabs, Israelis are just more western looking with straight or curled hair

Lel, i've been to israel and most of them had curly nigger hair
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>>79872384
>Lel, i've been to israel and most of them had curly nigger hair

Same but it wasn't as bad as Arabs. Honestly I don't care if people say Israelis are nigger haired arabs though, fuck Israel.
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>>79859403
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>>79872586
they are both semetic so they are pretty much related
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>>79872115

Wow what a full proof argument, it is broken down to:

>The [insert shitty bait insult] failed because they are shitty.

>Also i have no clue about history of Spain or Portugal and seek to lecture natives of said country with my simple minded pleb rethoric based on nothing else other then "da goyim is misuing da gold, oi vey" .

ALso a fucking Montenegro (translated from latin to:Nigger hill) as the gall to call us failures when all of your history consists of is being a welcome mat for foreign invaders to wipe their feet.
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>Divide and conquer kikes ITT

All Europeans sub-groups had major accomplishments in history. Fuck off
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>>79873142

Ok Pedro.

I know Siesta ended 1 hr ago and youre tired, but thats no reason to get your panties in a bunch.

>muh native argument

Yeah and North Koreans also believe that Kim Jong Il defeated america.

Fuck off mulatto
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>>79859403
THEY WERE RAPED BY THE MUSLIM INVASIONS BACK AROUND 900 TO 1100 AD
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>>79863524
this

meds are the master race, whitey is inferior to us
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>>79873675

More shitty memes from the NiggerHill gyppo. Must have struck a nerve there, because now i was upgraded to mulato, kek.
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>>79859403
I'm pure blooded wop, and I have wavy brown when it grows out. Not sure if that's an Arab or Mediteranean thing.

Cousins in Italy area paler than a sheet but have frizzy black hair, but I'm fairly confident that's a Roman trait. Women were documented as having it I believe.
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>>79865874
Ever been in Italy in winter? Guess not fucking retard
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>>79867569
Dove in Italia sei? Nord o Sud?
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>>79859403

my North African ancestors invaded them

why do you think all these guys are the less cucked in Europe ?

that's because of our admixture

now they're self-hating faggots who wish they were blue eyed blonde because they want to fit in with snownigs
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The only really white person is me.
Rest of you are all niggaz.
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>>79874339

>Tries to apply Latin - a white language to his mongrel nation.

Nice try, butthurto
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>>79859403
Majority in many places. /largely importing slaves in ancient times; also refugees from Arab conquests; Sicily, Spain, and the Balkans were occupied for long periods.
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>>79874959
Fair enough.
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>>79874959
>Swede
>White
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>>79859403
They don't look like Arabs. There is very little genetic evidence to support these "claims". All Europeans pretty much cluster with each other. The highest parts of non-European DNA found in Europe are in some remote Portuguese and Sicilian villages and even there is barely reaches something like 1% or 2%, not nearly enough to have any major influence on appearance.
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>>79875166

Funny your name is latin but you speak dog language (some obscure offshoot of slavic). What is up with that? You are the one who sounds like a mangy mongrel.

Romans must have been so impressed by you gyppo's, that they thought you were a type of hill niggers.

kek
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>>79867116
these maps are completely made up loll
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>>79875763
they have also been edited countless times
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>>79875749

Stop chimping out, Pedro.

I know you cant control your african genes, but even American niggers have better self control.

Enjoy being poor.
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What's up with the constant divide & conquer tactics aplied to non-germanic people? if you wanna tell us that we aren't white then don't complain when people shitposts about /pol/ not being satire. We're not gonna help you in your downfall.
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Half-Portuguese, half-Polish here. I'm not white and I'm 100% ok with that. When shitskins take over the world I will simply blend into the dark hordes and laugh while white people get assraped in the streets.
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>>79876511

Wtf are you talking about? We rank higher then you in both GDP and HDI despite the crisis.

Talking about clueless butthurt slavic mongrel gyppo.
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Except that south europeans doesn't look like arabs for the most part
Being tanned =/= looking like an arab
I live in Brussels (pls send help), I see arabs everyday and I went to Spain/Italia multiple times and i don't see someone can even think they look the same.
Arabs look like they mixed with camels
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>>79877085

As I said, stay poor, Pedro.

Remember, one drop rule, you are African.
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>>79876630
/pol/ is full of simple people and is generally only slightly more knowledgeable than your average nigger when it comes to anthropology
they think pic related has to be admixed since he doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes while in reality he is probably a much purer caucaian European than all of /pol/ combined
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Spaniards aren't degenerate because they have fewer chromosomes; they're degenerate because they have Moor chromosomes.
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>>79877163

Copy pasta of memes doesn't erase the fact that you are a nobody in every single respect.

ALso regarding the oen drop rule, you might want to check the overal genetic profile of your region /hint:its chock full of niggery and and near-eastern sperm to a greater degree then us kek).
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>>79877211
Why do you have pictures of a man on your computer?


my family is not from spain and 100% acteca.

but i do have the nigger i mean spaianrd gene to breed. WHite, indian from india, black, persian middle eastern.

If she is pretty ill breed em all!

i have problem i want to masturbate every day :( fuck i wish we lived in time before child support and all that shit. I would have bred so many bitches :(
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>>79877611

Haha, you are so poor I can sense it from your posts.

Please Moortugalian, stop being so butthurt. You are way too emotional, must be the african genetics :^)
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>>79877885
I just looked up a famous Basque model as an example.
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Arab paternal admixture in Europe.
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>>79877939
RARE
A
R
E
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>>79878091

>dat Moortugal

Top kek lad
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>>79878091
All neolithic shit as demonstrated by recent findings from the neolithic levant. S. Europe is more neolithic-like than north Europe, thus traces of those old paternal lineages are still present, especially in the areas less affected by bronze age migration from the steppe.
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>>79859403
Whiter than you juan
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>>79878469

Nope. This is recent considering that J1-P58 is the quintessential Arab paternal haplotype as it goes over 50% in the Arabian peninsula and over 70% in Sudan(founder affect). Italajiggas got moored plain and simple.
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>>79861791
>>79871443
Fuck you I have straight hair. All my siblings are wavy though
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>>79878608

He looks sorta gypsy.
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>>79877939

Yeah, keep dreaming. You'll never be more then the backwater of some empire. Eternally destined to nothing but mediocrity and copy past of other's memes. Nobody even dedicates threads to your country, you are that irrelevant.

>>79878091

North African admixture, not necessarily Arab. If it made it all the way to Switzerland then it is not Arab for sure.
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>>79878184
N E W
E
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>>79860739
>german karolinger empire under Karl Martel
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>>79878696
>Nope.
Nice counterargument. Opinion discarded.
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>>79878828

Lel.

Steaming anus moortugalian.

Too bad the Anglos didnt genocide all of Iberia, but I guess too irrelevant and useless.
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>>79878696

Arabs never made it that far into Italy, Swtizerland or France. It doesn't add up.

Not saying that we don't have arab admixture, but there have been African migrations into Europe thousands of years before the Islamic conquests.
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>>79868589
>>79869154
>my civilization never contributed anything to history or the sciences but look at how tall we are! master race amirite? hahaha
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>>79878091
It's bullshit
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>>79879122

Best bros with Anglos, oldest military alliance in the world. Keep being buttmad little manlet of a country. Steaming anus Moortugalian still managed to contribute to the world, while montenegro...well, it's a name that you learn during Geography classes and then promptly forget.
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>>79879296
Who is Nikola Tesla ameritard?
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>>79878828

The moors nestled in southern France for moor than 100 years even after being beaten by Charles Martel. It's not a stretch to say that some converted to Christanity and moved north. Moreover, J1-P58 is Arab haplotype not North African and is a result of Moorish conquest since Arabs were also present in Moorish Spain and took part in conquest.
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>>79879296

You do know your actual dad is a Serb right?

Shitty contribution, but its there.
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>>79879095

Thats not a argument.
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>>79868803
nice trips gelatobro.
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>>79863524
but that's the average Portuguese doe
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>>79879213

This isn't African admixture dummy. Don't worry you have recent African admixture both negroid and North African. The presence of J1-P58 is either a result of Saracen rape gangs or Arabs migrating to Italy during the Roman Empire which is the more likely scenario and a many Roman writers complained about asiatics moving to Italy as well.
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>>79879436

>WAAAAAAAHH

Keep crying little buttblasted moor.

Crusades soon, that means no more Moortugalians.

>muh contributionz!!11

Well you contributed nothing, your country contributed Brazil, good game.
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>>79879310

Nope. Disprove this, disprove that these areas have the same exact haplotype, ie the specific clade as gulf Arabs (the quintessential Arab!)???.
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>>79879556

They didn't nestle in France at all. Their invasion force was destroyed, no archaeological evidence of any significant moor presence or culture. 100 years would have left allot of traces.

Still didn't explain Italian or Switzerland case.

By the way dark ages weren't like now, you didn't just simply convert and go wherever you like.

That haplotype is North African. but there is nothing more then educated guesses regarding it's origin. Had you read the accompanying text you'd have know that rather then show a picture and remove the context.
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>>79859403
from my expierience it depends on the region sicily for example looks like roachland
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>>79879896
P58 is ~8000 years old, compatible with the spread of farming in every direction, in particular in the arabian peninsula
no one is buying your bullshit leaf
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>>79879801

Only if it's us stomping you out, considering the amount of muslims you have. kek

Besides Orthodox dogs can't have crusades. kek

Why you just copy pasta bad burger memes? You sound like one in every respect, maybe you are indeed a retarded burger using a proxy.
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>>79879508
>who is a Croatian-born American citizen who spent a majority of his life in America, working for American companies, getting American patents and selling his works to American businessmen
>its obviously a Serb

Wanna hear an oxymoron? Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts

>>79879578
It's funny that you claim this but don't claim that most of your ancestors were Turks
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>>79880162

Dumb Porto....J1 is a west Asian haplotype not North African.

Moors stayed in southern France for a while after defeat and moreover converting was easy back then, especially by the sword.

http://www.midi-france.info/1011_moors.htm>>79880162
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>>79879896
The burden of proof is on you, leafcuck.
Not that you have any legitimacy in talking about who's white or european.

>>79879801
>montenegro
Literally who? Top kek
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>>79880683

No white person will think you're white.

Short, brown, black hair, dirty skin, brown eyes.

Source: Look in the mirror

I dont see you faring well in a crusade, mongrel.
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>>79880405

Be smart spic, it's 8000 years old. If an Arab fucks a Polak and the spawn was male his haplotype would be the same as his father. This is what happened to Italy but more recently.
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>>79880957
>but more recently
[citation needed]
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>>79880872

Hahaha i proved my point but you haven't challenged apart from disregarding it with any counterpoint. J1-P58 is found amongst most Arabs in the Arabian peninsula and to some 5% Portuguese today. Guess what happened cavron.
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>>79859403
their ancestors were raped by the islamic conquest that plunged us into the dark ages.
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>>79881094

Saracens and middle-eastern immigration to the Roman Empire.
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>>79880851

They didn't and no conversions were not easy at all. You are projecting your Leaf mentality to an age were people were supremely bigoted and intolerant. Might i remind you that if it weren't for a few Kings in Portugal, the peasant catholic populace would have slaughtered allot of jew communities.

I don't think you understand the mindset of a medieval catholic at all.
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>>79881228
[citation needed]
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>>79880779
He was born in the Serbian Krajina of Croatia
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>>79880938
>no deluded serb who barely registers as an primate will think you're white

It's alright, I don't think that man is worried about quasi-humans thinking he's not white
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>>79859403
fucking mexico. dude, take any lilly white european who isn't even dark, and if they aren't gingers, and put them to live 30 years at the italian latitude, you will have someone who has dark skin due to, and only due to, the fact that they will become tanned and dark skinned from the constant sun. this is a fact as i myself become dark skinned every damn summer and if it wasn't for my light brown hair i would pass as an arab if i grew out my beard, and yes there are red head arabs in the middle east with flaming bright red hair. arab gingers happen.
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>>79880938
>Muslims form the largest minority religion in the country. Montenegro's 118,477 Muslims make up 19.11% of the total population.

t. Shitskin wuz the kangz

>>79881153
You keep throwing out unsourced claims.
Also that map proves exactly zero, I can make shit up too with 1000 hours in paint.
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>>79867667
What does that flag stands for?
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>>79880779
"I am happy that I am a Serb, and I will carry that name until the end of time, the cradle of my fathers, the kingdom of Serbia, capital of all Serbs calls unto me- that honor is great to me and nothing on this world, in my life, will hold greater value." direct quote from Nikola Tesla.
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>>79881361

Sorry you fit the profile.

Its not my fault m8

No need for butthurt.
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>>79881407
It's the decapitated head of a moor, representing the defense of Corsica and Sardinia against moorish raids.
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The OP mentions Serbs and he is right. They are dark skinned gypos. Funny how Bosniak Muslims are lighter than them, I guess converting has its perks so you participate in the rapings instead of getting raped.

Kekbab remover related.
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>>79881313
It's not about where you are born or what your ethnicity is, but where you work and where you spend most of your life. Serbs make so many jokes about diaspora but don't realize their biggest and only contribution to the sciences was one
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>>79881153

You really are a fucking Leaf.

>Correlation doesn't equal causation.

You are making assertions that not even people studying in the genetic fields do. You are literally talking out of your ass.
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>>79881401

> religion = race

Even (muslim) Albanians are whiter than you.

See thats the issue with you Iberians, you identify by religion, thats why your DNA is arabic :^)
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>>79881274

What is Saxon conversions!

Yes the Catholic mindset in the dark age was to convert or kill heritics. The Muslims that resided in southern France were either killed or converted, and conversions looks like the most likely conclusion of their stories as their haplotypes are present in France and Switzerland.
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>>79859403
Short, entertaining answer for ya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZCGMCDzbU
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Virgil wrote poetry while the others painted themselves... like savages.

Ah hahahaha ah hahahaha
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>>79881716
>slav muds
The ultimate cuck, literally worse than Arab muds
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Meds and Balkanshits has to be reduced to 10% of their current population. Only pure-blooded deserve to walk on the European soil.
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>>79881281

http://www.brill.com/products/book/migration-and-mobility-early-roman-empire
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>>79881926

Hey bro, found a picture of your dad.

Looks like your mom got MOORED
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>>79881401

This was from Eupedia and sourced using genetic y-DNA results of various ethnic groups. Go cry some more shitskin.
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>>79882023

Also applies to Russians.

Hy cepьeзнo, coвoк тaкoe быдлo пopoдил.
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>>79881447
"As a son of this country [Croatia], I consider it my duty to help the City of Zagreb in every way, either through counsel or through action" direct quote from Nikola Tesla

>>79881455
>pic related
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>>79859403
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>>79881831

You don't know what you are talking about.

here read it:

>After assembling forces at Saragossa the Muslims entered French territory in 735, crossed the River Rhone and captured and looted Arles. From there they struck into the heart of Provence, ending with the capture of Avignon, despite strong resistance. Islamic forces remained in French territory for about four years, carrying raids to Lyon, Burgundy, and Piedmont. Again Charles Martel came to the rescue, reconquering most of the lost territories in two campaigns in 736 and 739, except for the city of Narbonne, which finally fell in 759. The second (Muslim) expedition was probably more dangerous than the first to Poitiers. Yet its failure (at Charles' hands) put an end to any serious Muslim expedition across the Pyrenees (forever).[30]

the Muslims were defeated in a matter of decades. They didn't colonize or establish actual rule. YOU ARE DOING WHAT LEAFS DO BEST, BEING RETARDED.
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>>79882033
Yeah I'm totally gonna buy the book and read it to reply an anonymous comment on 4chan, that's how it works.
While it's obvious that some people might have moved into Italia during the Roman Empire, the fact that such haplogroup was present in the levant during the neolithic could very well explain the small presence of it anyway.
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>>79881503
Umm just to clarify, this guy is an ACTUAL gypsy, not a Serb, which is evident because of his last name (a gyppo last name) canadabro :)
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Here is a map of maternal negro admixture in Europe. Not north african(caucasid) but subsaharan African negroid.
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>>79879508
Nikolaas van Tesland was Dutch
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>>79882415

Oh yea sure thing. He's one very Serbian Serb. You're not romanianing your way outta this one.
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>>79881839

always that one cuck that post this movie while he jerks off to how superior italians are you.

we fought mudslimes for almost 2 millenium

kill yourself you pathetic fucking cuck
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>>79882364

The Muslims raped and looted southern France and had enclaves. That is a fact. Some were killed off but the remaining were converted.
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>>79882570
You're wrong, Nikolasia Tonqaysla was Nigerian, specifically Yoruba tribe
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>>79863669
>wannabes
Reminder the only reason Dinaric Alps (no country) in specific is taller than the Dutch is because the Dutch census also counts shitskins, who are all really short.

Dutch are by far the tallest.
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>>79882185

Here i'll apste the article parts you omitt for the sake of your arab fetish.

>All three branches of J1-L858 (S640, YSC76 and FGC11) are found in Europe, principally in Spain, Italy, central and eastern Europe. Their relatively recent time of divergence with their Middle Eastern cousins (Late Bronze Age to Iron Age) suggests that they would have arrived with the Phoenicians (Sicily, Sardinia, Spain), and later in greater numbers with the Jewish diaspora. Spain and Portugal have the highest percentage of FGC12 in Europe, but this amounts to about 12% of J1 lineages, i.e. less than 0.5% of the population, suggesting that the Arabs had a much smaller genetic impact on the Iberian population than the Jews and the Phoenicians.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J1_Y-DNA.shtml

Are we done leaf?
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>>79882631
Not trying to, u are entitled to an opinion as well as the next man so if u think we are gypos then I guess we are
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>>79882269
Russians need to cleanse at least 70% of their European population and 100% of non-European. 20-30% of ethnic Russians are based as it gets.
>coвoк и быдлo
Я знaю, я Эcтoнeц...
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IMO the least European Europeans by blood(genetics). From most non-European to most...

1. Portuguese
2. Spaniards
3. Italians (they have negroe input in the south)
4. Greeks (mixed with several other Balkan people and Turks).
5. Bulgarians (Turkish raped and gypsy colonization).
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GET KEKED WHITE BOIS

HAHAHAHAH

IM IN YOUR COUNTRIES, BEST OF ALL YOU WHITE KEKBOIS ALL ASSUME IM ENGLISH

SERBS GETTING THEY DICKS WET MY NIGGAS HAHAHAHAH
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Women love my big dinaric dick
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>>79883043

Serbia has 1 million gypsies living inside it's borders and I think regular Serbs are same level of whitness as Romanians and Albanians and all three are whiter than Greeks, Italians, Spaniards and Portguese who are by far the darkest people in Europe. But you are dark also.
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>>79882531

mtDNA comes from women. You can't even read maps right.
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>tfw my dad side of the family is from spain
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>>79883085
>the serb is drunk

big surprise
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>>79882888

You share the same haplotype as them, regardless. And read more please.

>J1-P58 (J1a2b on the ISOGG tree, formerly known as J1e, then as J1c3) is by far the most widespread subclade of J1. It is a typically Semitic haplogroup, making up most of the population of the Arabian peninsula, where it accounts for approximately 40% to 75% of male lineages.

J1-P58 is thought to have expanded from eastern Anatolia and the southern Caucasus to the Taurus and Zagros mountains, then Mesopotamia, and eventually the Arabian peninsula at the end of the last Ice Age (12,000 years ago) with the seasonal migrations of goat and sheep pastoralists. It is during the Neolithic that subclades like L860 and L93 would have reached the mountainous parts of the southern Arabian peninsula (Yemen, Oman), whereas L816 and L862 remained in the Fertile Crescent.
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>>79883043
Damn dude, at least counter back with some nationalism. A Serb that doesn't defend his race fervently is kind of sad, it's like a remote without batteries. Are you just tired of all the shitposts?
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>>79883352
White was a good thing to be a while ago but why would Serbs want to be associated with the biggest cucks in the world who literally ensure the death of their people?
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>>79883374

That's what I said dummy. Maternal not paternal. You Portos imported negroe Slaves hence why you have the most negroe admixture in Europe.
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>>79883352
Most recent census states that there are 108.000 Gypsies within Serbia, but the number of Gypsies in Serbia is more around 140.000, still, it is a lot less than 1.000.000 mark that u suggest.
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>>79883481
Give us more info, he might be from the ancient and based North.
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spain is white, I am white thanks yo them. Im norteno master race. Viva chihuahua
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>>79883075
In my opinion,Italians are a good genetic stock.
I watched them on Euro,and was impressed.
Southern parts of Italy should probably be purged though.
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>>79883075

At least we're not chink fags.
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>>79883560

You are fucking retarded, saying that there X percentage of this sort DNA doesn't mean everyone has it.

ALso how does your glorious arab fetish explain the presence of L mtDNA in Nordic countries? Are you even vaguely aware that all you said so far contradicts your beliefs, you literally have no clue what you are copy pasting.
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>>79859403
Majority, sadly. Portuguese people in particular are 90% swarthy and look Arab.
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>>79883573
It wouldn't do any good, my dialogue partner, it seems, can't tell the difference between beliefs and facts, beliefs are subjective and dynamic whilst facts aren't. He seems to synonize facts and beliefs, thus whatever I say to him won't make any difference.
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>>79883690

Wrong, your censuses are false and don't report what's really going on. Romania for instance says it has a population of gypsies numbering 3% when it's at least 20% or 4 million people in Romania alone. Bulgaria has 1 million gypsies, the same with Serbia and Hungary has 1.5 million gypsies. Both Albania and Macedonia have 300,000 gypsies (around 10% of their population). Greece has maybe half a million gypsies. Even the Czech Republic has loads of gypsies (300,000).
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>>79883895

Brasiln laying down the truthbombs

Moortugal BTFO, will it ever recover?
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>>79884034
i think that we have some like 600 000 gypsies
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>>79883881

5% of Portugese males share the same haplotype as Arabs in the gulf! Not immigrants but Portguese themselves.
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>>79877939
You are not even a real country, stop barking shit
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>>79883721
Dad's mom was from a ranch in Catalonia, his dad was from a village in Galicia. Mom side is Irish (unfortunately)
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>>79883881

Scandanavia does not have J1-P58 (Arab haplotype). J1 amongst swedes is most likely Jewish males that assimilated.
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>>79884214

Nope i just copy pasted it to you, arab genes amounts to 0,5% you dumbfuck.

READ THE TEXT.
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>>79884034
If you do not produce some evidence of falsehood of our censuses, then I can't take your argumentation seriously, therefore I must stick to the 140.000 number
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>>79883912
Damn, well now I feel bad about making all those shitposts earlier in the thread against Serbs.

Well, carry on then. You seem like a reasonable individual.
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>>79884386
>>All three branches of J1-L858 (S640, YSC76 and FGC11) are found in Europe, principally in Spain, Italy, central and eastern Europe. Their relatively recent time of divergence with their Middle Eastern cousins (Late Bronze Age to Iron Age) suggests that they would have arrived with the Phoenicians (Sicily, Sardinia, Spain), and later in greater numbers with the Jewish diaspora. Spain and Portugal have the highest percentage of FGC12 in Europe, but this amounts to about 12% of J1 lineages, i.e. less than 0.5% of the population, suggesting that the Arabs had a much smaller genetic impact on the Iberian population than the Jews and the Phoenicians.

Read it again you moron.
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>>79884177

You Balkan fools. All of your stats on minorities are false and you compensate by cooking the books. There are 1 million gypsies in Serbia and 4 million gypsies in Romania alone. Gypsies have high birth rates so there is that.
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>>79884251
Not bad, pre-1970 Catalonia was based, and Galicia gets a pass, after all, they gave us based Franco.
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Here is Berber paternal ancestry amongst Europeans.
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>>79883075

What about the mongolic Finns and Estonians, the gypsy Romanians and the gypsy-mongol mix of Hungary?
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>>79884545
It's all good ameribro
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>muh skin color
Oh look another thread for little kids
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Wonder what /pol/ thinks of us Estonians? We are pure Hwites and only admixture we rarely have is Swedish.
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>>79885256

Estonians are white but look weird and talk like they're retarded.
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>>79884774

Again Explain the French bit. A country with no history of settlement by berbers has North African presence in their lineages.
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>>79885413

Rape or conversion. We've been through this before.
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>>79884591
We keep their numbers down by supplying them with low-grade heroin cut with all sorts of nasty shit. The heroin barely gets them high they get addicted to stabbing themselves. They also share syringes so they end up with a lot of diseases. They usually die in their 20ths.
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>>79884940

Cuck

>>79885256


Your Mongolic N haplogroup and language says otherwise.
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>>79885641

Read this please:

>Whereas Y-chromosomal lineages can be organised in a neat genealogical tree ('phylogenetic tree' is the technical word), it is much harder for autosomes due to the fact that they get mixed up ('recombined') at every generation with other autosomes. To trace back the origins of a population, the idea is to check which modern populations share the same unique mutations spread out on all 22 pairs of non-sex chromosomes. That's why they are referred to as "admixtures". The names for each admixture are arbitrary and do not necessarily refer to the source population who spread those genes, but usually the geographic region where it is most common today. For example, the Southwest Asian admixture got its name because this set of mutations is most common in the Arabian peninsula nowadays. But Arabic people descend from nomadic herders who lived around the Zagros and Taurus mountains, around northern Mesopotamia, during the Neolithic period. This is also the case of Y-haplogroup J1, with which the Southwest Asian admixture best correlates. In other words, the so-called Southwest Asian admixture found in a European individual may never have come from Southwest Asia (Arabic peninsula) at all, but rather from Anatolia.

They never made it past South France, look at the fucking map. There is no historical evidence of settlement or conversion. Nothing, no historian or scientist has ever said this to be even a remote hypothesis. Dude just admit it you are grasping at straws.

You are entertaining baseless assumptions.
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>>79868666
>soccer plays

into the trash it goes
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who care about whiteness

enjoy extinction cuck boys
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>>79863524
But it is the average pt guy. I look like a mix of the first guy and Luis Figo myself. We are not albino white neither arabs. Just portuguese like those pics.
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>>79886409
don't know about you but /pol/ is making me more anti-white by the day, I almost don't feel bad anymore that we're making so many niggers pass through the peninsula to reach whites, considering the kind of treatment we get from people who are supposed to be pro-Europeans
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im i white or just a tall version of arab ?
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>>79887324

>injecting drugs

bro just smoke some weed
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>>79886055
According to my girlfriend her pussy is pink and skin is pale and soft. We are Hwite
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>>79887850
JUST
SMOKE
SOME
WEED
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>>79883669
I can't even believe what I am reading. You fill the stereotype that americans are dumb...
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>>79886840

Shit hasn't changed a bit. Their bigoted attitude is still as patent today as it was then. When they want to claim southern euros achievements they makes us whites, when they want to sneer and belittle us we change back to being brown.

at this point i do have to say i am close to stop referring to southern euros as white. Because clearly it's a tainted word, not worth the effort.
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>>79888613

Also here is one for the comments to that sites and the maps he is referring to.

>Portugal was never 10% Black.
Only Lisbon, I repeat ONLY Lisbon (the capital of the country), accounted for 10%, which means... no more than 1% of the population countrywide was Black.Black slaves were then exported, through the 'Triangular Trade' system.Source:
"Portugal began this trade in Europe, and were the first nation to import a large number of Negroes. There was a time, in about anno Domini 1550, when Lisbon and Evora were 10 percent Negro, with the entire nation being about 1 percent so. However, the figures are misleading if not properly explained. The vast majority of Negroes in Portugal were subsequently shipped elsewhere, to Brazil primarily. The remaining ones were used as household servants and farm laborers, with many perishing in the latter capacity. There is much talk of the disproportionate absorption of Negroes into the Portuguese populace, but this is simply untrue. Certainly there was some, but no more than in the other nations discussed here, and their contribution to the overall ancestry of the Portuguese people, as well as the Spanish, Italian, French, English, Dutch and German peoples, is virtually nil. The European tended to view the Negro with suspicion and was not likely to engage in extra-curricular activity with him."
- ("Transatlantic Slavery: The Dark Passage", by Jonathan Kuzma Gill)....The people with Black ancestry in Portugal are Cape Verdeans, Mozambicans, Angolans and ex-colonials alike who acquired citizenship under Jus Solis, after the decolonization.This map is wrong and biased.Now I understand why people say Eupedia's maps are unreliable.
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>>79886129
Stop replying.
He is wrong and you know it. He is probably a neckbeard shill without any knowledge about Europe.
It must be hard to not have a culture so he tries to shill on other people.
I bet he even hasn't money to come to Europe and see the reality.
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>>79889017

I was bored Fellow Barbosa.
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>>79886129

The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence. Portos have high amounts of J1-P58, the same exact clade of J1 that Gulf Arabs have. Case closed shitskin. Even if it's a small amount relative to the Arabs in general it is still a lot for Europe.
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Don´t try to educate an American. Never.
They´ll just scream MUH FREEDOM and shit.

70% White, you murican fucktards.

And the number keeps lowering, year after year...
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>>79886840
This guy gets it.
All I want to see now is white people getting fucked in their own countries.
The Paris attack was such a beautiful day.
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>>79863524
sure, but you're not white either
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>>79889889

Well your not white to begin with Jose.
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>>79865874
says the 50% white country
top kek amerifat
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>>79890151
Ming Lee, shut up.
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>>79859403
I'm swarthy and I can say it's minority.
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>>79889676

What case closed? You look at maps and de-contextualize them, cherry picking you way and adding your own beliefs into it. Haven't they taught you about neolithic, paleolithic, bronze age and iron age in your schools leaf? Oh yeah i forgot you're a leaf. It's an embarrassment you share genes with me, please never come to Portugal or Europe.
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>>79890691

I don't share genes with brown mongrels.
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>>79886840
So do I.
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>>79890829

Oh so you're a typical leaf then? 100% shit?

Wew lad. That was close.
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>>79890048
Haha I understand your feels.
However France for me is tricky. Can't put them in the Northern basket, neither the Southern one.
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>>79891098
Anything and everything north of the Pirineos deserves no respect and should die a painful and slow death to the hands of those shitskin invaders they are so afraid of.
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>>79891098

Traditional French culture is great and is nothing like Germanic (Lutheran) one. heck even Austrians and Bavarian have very different culture and temperament to the majority of Germans, hence why they are so hated by the typical protestant German sausage muncher.
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>>79891400
Meh
Once I was in an airplane talking to some french Swiss and they hated the german Swiss. They said they have a very diferent culture, they don't get along and politically the german cantons tend to vote the oposite of what the latin ones vote.
They even said they consider themselves latin and not germanic as the other swiss.
That doesn't mean they see us as equal, but they surely get a little of my respect.
Southern France also has touradas and a very similar culture as our so I won't see them as equal as Northern countries.
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>>79886840
>don't know about you but /pol/ is making me more anti-white by the day, I almost don't feel bad anymore that we're making so many niggers pass through the peninsula to reach whites, considering the kind of treatment we get from people who are supposed to be pro-Europeans

fuck'em, they've envy, cuz they're cucks and their women despise them
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>>79891098
Frenchmen seem to be mostly fine actually, they aren't constantly butthurt about us as they don't have any resentment/inferiority complex toward us, being such a great European nation historically. I wouldn't group them with whites because I respect them, they are just French.
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>>79892827
This. That is how I think too.
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>>79887324
Post feets.
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>>79867116
Galicia is one of the whitest parts of Spain, this map is bullshit.
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>>79891400
the men, yes are afraid. not the women!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDSwTQHZGZM
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>>79893774
Seeing this and knowing how butthurt pol is makes me so happy.
And the best thing is that we are STILL a net benefitor.
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>>79862436
Spain is this weird mix of Moors and Visigoths
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>>79892827

I like the French even if they are chauvinistic or arrogant at times. They make no fucking effort whatsoever trying to speak to others in anything other then french.

But they goofed up politics really hard and they will pay the price for it. Which is really sad, i really enjoyed visiting Paris (more then 10 years ago) would never dare do it now. It looks like Morocco and is probably more then dangerous then many places in North Africa.
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>>79865804
Islamic Spain was pretty based DESU
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>>79894609
Hahaha good one.
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>>79894590

>Morrocco

But Morroco isn't that black.
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>>79894404
in the end all the world will be lead by us. it's destiny. Hispania!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Empire
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>>79895012

Hate to burst your bubble but we had our bit in history. Now we should brace for the shitstorm that is coming. In the next 100 years all of Europe is gonna suffer.

I think is far better everyone stick to their own thing and deal with the situation the best they can. Iberia is not ready for a political union, the Castillans can barely keep the separatists in check and with recent events in the UK, they will only feel all the more bold for their independence cause.

I'd say there is enough shit-sandwiches to go around and Spain is gonna be eating allot of those and so will we.

Iberian union just isn't feasible at the moment.
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Pure Caucasians have always had a Darker complexion. Aryans are the whiter form of this race, however all Caucasians still have the same facial and body structures. Until you get too far east you'll start to see mongoloid structure.
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>>79895718
>Iberia is not ready for a political union
we've no choice. we need it now!!
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