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strawman thread
some retard used this as an argument point on my jewbook
paraphrased of course
Can someone explain strawman to me. wikipedia doesnt help,and im not the brightest, but i want to learn so i dont do it
>>79854712
>strawman thread
>>79854712
>>79854712
Strawmen are illoyal representations of arguments, these aren't strawmen, people actually spout these absurd viewpoints.
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>>79855455
strawman: an subject matter made for the purpose of showing it's own flaws
these pictures for example show various issues that libfags preach, we just boil them down to their most basic elements and show how stupid they are in a sarcastic way
>>79855490
>I don't know what a strawman is
>>79855490
Is this supposed to be ironic?
>>79855490
>haha i know i've just used a fallacy but you refused to answer it so i win.
Somebody put this phrase in one of this memes, please.
keep this thread alive while im gone
>>79856203
Saved.
>>79856213
kek
>>79856213
One of the best.
>>79854712
That's not a strawman, that's literally a position many people hold.
>>79856836
ty
I hope youre the greek part of cyprus
>>79857409
dude its literally the sticky you newfag
Saying "strawman" is not an argument. It's the equivalent of saying "racist." It's your obligation to refute the strawman or point out any inaccuracies. A strawman is literally boiling down one's point to the most efficient explanation possible, which is a good thing and lets the process go faster. If it slanders the opponent, the opponent must refute it.
>>79858205
You can't tell me it isn't corrupt
>>79855620
Filthy Frank really is shit-tier "lolsorandumb" gross-out """""humor""""".
Him and that Sam Hyde faggot are severely unfunny.
>>79858214
>you must refute fallacies
>>79858516
How is it a fallacy
>>79856502
KEK
>>79858545
well, the majority of their victims are other muslims and they are breaking the Quran all the time so, can't say they seem very muslim to me
>>79858401
>not liking sam hyde
Get out of here
These are just great! I'd love for some pro-artist to really go to town and make these into weekly comics or something.
>>79855007
gets me everytime
>>79858839
every
fucking
time
its
a
swede
>>79858839
sven knows it
>>79858839
>the majority of their victims are other muslims
Muslims have been killing muslims since like 2 minutes after mohammed died
>>79854712
>strawman
No, this name is shit. THe original creator called them "counter signals" which is also a pretty shithouse name.
Smuggies is easily the best anyone has come up with. It's succinct and pegs those liberal faggots for what they are.
Smug cunts.
>>79855968
The first statment is true... just saying
>>79858839
>>79859459
Always a swede.
Fuck outta here.
>>79858839
> Islam expert
>Swedish
>>79858839
Thanks for the input, Sven.
>>79858025
i always gloss over it, ((((((((anonymous))))))))
>>79855182
when you focus on the text in this image the towers move
>>79860422
every.fucking.time
>>79859459
Nationalism isn't taking credit for, it's being proud of. Liberals conflate the two.
>>79859322
this post made me laugh in real life
>>79860092
That's Achmed your talking to
>>79856836
Wow, this is really informative, can we get this stickied or something?
>>79855051
>>79854950
>>79854909
the best faces are the ones like this. there's something indistinct and neurotic about their expressions, they're not exactly easily read caricatures
Can someone post the "your Christian values are arbitrary bullshit and shouldn't apply to me but should apply to you"?
>>79861316
That just seems like the next logical step in his career.
>>79856555
What you're thinking of is the Soviet Union circa 1945 kiddo
Also nice trips
>>79861718
It already is sticked you fucking retard.
>>79863398
This one is dumb because fetuses aren't even conscious, might as well stand trial for stomping a cockroach or killing rats.
Going to post some OC. Please give honest feedback.
>>79864057
yeah might as well stand trial for stomping a sedated person you fucking retard
>>79864273
>>79864362
>>79864470
>>79864555
decent
and checked
>>79858839
SWEDEN YES
>>79861718
this, we should sticky this fallacy post
>>79855309
Literally me
>>79855490
If the argument is fallacious, it isn't a valid argument.
>>79854712
heres a good one
>>79856987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAeB_yl2E90
>>79858205
t. Russell Brand
>>79855490
I agree, a fallacy is a crack in an argument. If you merely state there's a crack and then walk away acting like you've won then you've done nothing.
You need to open up the crack and use the fallacy as a basis to argue why the opponent's argument is wrong.
>>79859001
How do you know, Antonio?
>>79865496
>he doesn't know about the fallacy fallacy
>>79865114
I couldn't help it
>>79865575
kek, i posted the faggot and it turned in to this.
>>79866026
Because that's literally the reason Shia and Sunni are two separate branches of Islam you twat.
>>79861015
Still doesn't make any sense
>taking pride in shit you haven't done
>>79866202
Haha you made it better. simple and sweet.
"Help me restore my faith in the right wing before I succumb to reason" thread
>>79857213
Thats the meme bud
>>79867182
"maybe if i try to oppose the mass opinion on /pol/ ill look edgy" the post
>>79865843
I rarely see that anymore. I remember when I first came to /pol/ people would present much better arguments.
>>79858839
Quran 9:73,
>"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."
>HYPOCRITES
>>79854860
perfect
>>79855007
god I love that one
>>79855082
this one's not as funny, or creative. who says this
>>79855971
>>79856203
>>79856475
You fucking retards just committed the Fallacy Fallacy.
>>79856435
My favorite
>>79867738
>this one's not as funny, or creative
because it's true
>>79867528
what is with this little freak
>>79867528
whats the qurans definition of a hypocrite?
I feel inspired today
>>79867738
My uncle
>>79858214
Someone can just throw endless strawmans of changing variations each making a different point than the last. So the conversation would have to stop over and over to refute each strawman.
>>79868195
mohammed was paranoid and changed it how he liked it.
today its dynamik and they change it to whatever they want.
>>79860615
Jews did 911 confirmed
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/counter-signal-memes
People are laughing at us for these...
>>79866112
You better be memeing me right now
>>79866624
yeah i remember this kid,
made laugh a lot.
>>79869119
people have been laughing at us since 4chan started
they laugh because they do not understand
>>79869119
oh noes. What ever shall we do?
>>79867387
>>79854712
is it summer vacation?
>>79858274
the point of the pic is that some people think theres no point to having any political particpation. the system isnt completely rigged
>>79856435
The amount of times I've seen this is unreal. I honestly thought no one did it anymore, I seen an embarrassing example on twitter the other day though
>"Well firstly it's your* not you're"
>"Are you adding anything to that?"
>"What?"
>"If you start something with "firstly" you better have at least two points to make"
>"Or else?"
>"Or else you look like a fool. It's hard to take the high ground when you're just as stupid"
>"Oh a Trump supporter"
>Blocked
I hate these faggots.
>>79865771
to what convention is this picture related?
>>79868361
unless this is cross exam though, in which case they would just be wasting their time limit presenting a bunch of strawmen in the first place, you don't and can't interrupt them. so instead he makes 1 or 2 strawmen and then continues his argument based on them. Then on your turn you explain why the strawmen are wrong and thus ruin his case he built around them
>>79869690
Is summer vacation all year round for 3 years now?
>>79869204
It's not a meme, its an actual fallacy
>>79869204
read the sticky maple nigger holy shit
>>79866755
It certainly makes more sense than gay pride.
>>79869119
I, too, am laughing at us for these. I love these memes and I know people who have really said the stuff you can see in these memes, but no way have I ever thought to use these as arguments against them. They're just silly comics, nothing more.
>>79869119
There is even a Reddit for posting them, gay
>>79863526
>not getting the joke this hard.
>>79859459
Being proud isn't the same thing as taking credit, cuckposter.
>>79855027
Tell me about Mohammad.
Why does he wear the Turban?
>>79858274
If you vote for something when more people voted for another option and the latter option is implemented, that's corruption? Are you a fucking retard?
>>79870646
Lotta loyalty for a hired terrorist!
>>79864470
not entirely sure which side this is on but im christian canon the old testament is legitimately not intended to be a moral reference and everything athefags *cherrypick* ends up being from the old testament like leviticus
>>79870786
or maybe he's wondering why you would torture a terrorist before bombing him
>>79855027
You're a big prophet.
>>79855309
>Tfw I used to say this
>>79871062
At least you can talk, who are you?!
>>79860422
to be fair, /pol/ does the EXACT opposite of this also.
>>79871484
The difference is, we are right.
/Pol/ is always right my friend.
>>79857636
Whats wrong with yoga?
>>79857700
The term "intersectionality" makes me fall into a blind rage.
Triggered. As. Fuck.
>>79871261
it does not matter who we are, what matters is our faith
>>79871484
"Guess the minority" is a funnier game.
>>79871692
people pay a ridiculous amount for trainers and classes for what is just glorified stretching
>>79871695
*takes off your hood*
>>79870793
Then why do Christians follow the 10 commandments? Throughout the Gospel, Jesus preaches about them, just reworded.
"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law" (Mat 5:17)
One of the ten commandments is thou shalt not commit adultery. adultery in our country legally means cheating, but adultery in the bible also means having sex outside of marriage. Which gays obviously do anyway.
The point is that you cannot be gay and Christian at the same time. it is what modern christians are trying to push because church attendance is at a record low and they want to keep their tax-free business cult running.
I was brought up christian all my life, now agnostic because as a gay man who tried to be a christian, i knew i just couldn't make myself straight and i knew you just couldn't have gay sex and be christian at the same time.
do you think i would give up gay sex? lol
>>79871780
nobody cared who i was till i started bombing the infedels
>>79854712
Is it really strawmanning if you're pointing out the truth?
>>79861718
sure
>>79854712
They're definitely not called strawmen. These comics are based on actual arguments and viewpoints, with a silly face attached.
>>79871856
If I pull off that Hijab, will you die?
>>79871856
>>79871849
If i took that off, would you die?
>>79869734
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Dashcon
>>79872137
>>79872152
it would be extremely haram
>>79872258
You're a famous terrorist.
>>79855137
Obligatory
>>79872302
4 u sa
>>79855455
You make a flimsy argument for your opponent so you can then criticize/knock it down.
>>79872327
Was getting caught part of your plan?
>>79872083
Glad to see JIDF also likes these memes.
>>79872424
OF COURSE!
>>79871786
because jesus (keyword) talks about them. a bid notion of christianity which a lot of christians (sadly) ignore is that everyone went to hell before jesus came and also only believed in the old testament before jesus came (coincidence?). i completely understand how christianity would conflict with your homosexuality but in general christians really dont have any obligation in their ("our" in case you havent guessed) religion to be homophobic. i think milo yiannoupolis does a good job of explaining how he reconciles homosexuality and catholicism. im
not trying to force it on you just saying christians dont necessarily have to hate you and the ones who do dont do so cause christianity forces them.
relevant links:
http://youtu.be/Z32DFoMPL-8
https://youtu.be/6wZWqcpvlUU
(dont worry both vids are short)
>>79854860
Basically /pol/
>MEDIA RUN BY JEWS THEY ARE LYING ABOUT TRUMP
>LOOK MEDIA SAID SOCIALISM CAUSED VENUZWALA DOWNFALL IT MUST BE TRUE
>>79866755
It's sort of like
>My father was a great carpenter, better not be a piece of shit otherwise our family legacy will be ruined.
>>79872258
damn i was gonna say the same thing
>>79863104
usual source of inspiration:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=193430427
>>79855309
>neither candidate has a platform which I can agree with but I'll pick a side so I can fit in haha my candidate is best now haha
> where's me hair
> tfw
>>79872467
Well, congratulations, you got yourself caught, so what's the next step in your master plan!?
>>79872727
CRASHING GERMANY
>>79872497
but saying "God hates fags" is not the same as "I hate fags". It's not 'homophobic' to preach what is said in the Bible. it also mentions homosexuality in romans chapter 1. it's not just the old testament.
what do you mean everyone went to hell before jesus came? i've never heard that before.
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now." - James B. Comey, FBI Director
This is criminal. He is saying that there is not equal treatment in this case.
*
>>79855051
>Canada
>Rich
>Canada
>White
KEK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw
>>79872798
WITH NO INFIDELS
>>79872962
NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
I'M IN CHARGE HERE!
>>79871888
keke, I don't know, might be epistemologically incorrect and so on, but still good one
Has anyone else ever been in a debate with a faggot like this? The kind who when you present them with reasons to not be a faggot they just lose it and start rubbing the faggotry in your face-thinking it's an argument?
>>79854909
>censors conservative news
>allows isis to recruit
>>79873030
do you feel in charge, merkel?
>>79872083
>0.25 Shekels have been donated to your account, Mr. Cohen
>>79873156
*fast forward a year*
IT'S OVER MUDSLIMES
I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
I love this one
>>79872634
Did that one sting a little?
>>79872798
I like how we are still Number One and neither Canada nore Sweden took our title. :^)
>>79873059
>Their face when I'm also a fag, but don't engage in it, because it is degeneracy
>>79873258
rofl this is funny as fuck, reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzdPmUHgJ_E
>>79873250
YOU UNDERESTIMATE THE LIBERAL APOLOGIZING
>>79873325
MEMED
>>79855309
Pretty much most people I know
>"we're fucked"
>"no use in trying to fix anything"
>>79872634
Then why not vote 3rd party?
>>79873393
If that's true about not engaging in degeneracy then God bless you faggot
>>79873524
We all have our crosses to bear, anon. Doesn't mean you need to give into them. Bless you too, anon.
>>79873422
Don't try it...
>>79867869
And you just committed the Fallacy Fallacy Fallacy
>>79873752
*shoots up gay bar*
>>79872925
Canada is whiter than America though, and even then the second highest demographic are Asians. Not so bad.
>>79873406
And never forget, faggots:
>moderate majority
>>79858401
Sam hyde is a million times superior to filthy faggot
>>79873818
*meme magics you to death*
This
>>79873926
the liberals....they'll.... they'll finish isis' work.....
>>79872836
people saying god hates fags is them pushing their lackluster interpretation. its their parents views presented with religion as an authority for it when its actually unrelated. and yeah its pretty commonly accepted that everyone who died before jesus lived went to hell. he was sent to die for peoples sins because the whole of humanity was too sinful. its also why dante includes the circle of hell (just outside of it) where people who are good, like virgil etc, but lived before jesus came go to live in relative comfort but are forever seperated from god. personally i dont completely adhere to everything in the faith i like christianity as a good framework for morality and while i pick and choose what i believe i still hold myself out as a catholic and will side with christians generally
>>79867738
It's the only good thing all the others are shit.
>>79859458
>original creator
they aren't anything new, strawmanning is just misrepresenting someone's argument or logic to make it easier to attack, this is that in picture form
>>79866755
Just like caring for people you've never met before doesn't make sense.
>>79860615
No it doesn't FREAK
>>79874069
Your memes...
end here...
>>79864918
>"which way is Sweden"
kek
>>79860092
>"Life is like a hurricane
>Here in Cuckburg
>Race lies, cock locks, black Bulls
>It's a cuck-blur!
>Might suck off Ahmed,
>Or live in the cuck-shed!
>CuckTales! Woo-oo!
>Every day they're out there making
>CuckTales! Woo-oo!
>Tales of domination-do
>Humiliating femmedom cuck tales!
>M-m-m-Muslims! Lurk behind you!
>There's a stranger fuckin' your waifu
>What to do, just grab on to some...
>CuckTales! Woo-oo!
someone post the "good point but I still think it's racist SOMEHOW" straw man
>>79874070
why do bibles include the old testament then if you're not supposed to follow it?
>>79866755
What you've inherited from your fathers, acquire it to posess it.
Also:
>leaf
>>79871849
From the thumbnail. it looks like a south park version of Pepe in a turban and robes.
God, I need a break from this place.
>>79873484
3rd part cant possibly win :/
>>79861316
No fucking way, man.
>>79855455
>>79855455
learn it idiot.
>>79855645
No it's lying about the other oppoenent.
>>79874085
the sad thing is these are startlingly accurate
This ones gold
>>79855309
Still me and it will never change until there is an absolute guarentee that corruption won't exist and secret societies have a vigilant watchdog.
WHICH WILL NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN.
You all are fucking dumb
You're voting between a Authoritarian pseudo-Nazi with no political background besides paying off politicians, and an Authoritarian pseudo-Nazi that lies about the fact that they are an Authoritarian pseudo-Nazi.
>>79874488
historical account (i know but bear with me) and the new testament will reference it from time to time like jesus referencing the commandments ( itd be weird to reference something and not include) and just a general display of the proggression of the religion
>>79875080
Was shitposting part of your plan?
>>79874896
yep, the political and sjw ones are spot on which is so scary, like this is meant to be satire for fucks sake
>>79874488
To know why the Jews before Jesus were full of shit, anon.
>>79875080
>leaf having an opinion about politics
so hows weed man?
>>79855645
You mean making a strawman fallacy
>>79872532
No mainstream source faulted socialism. They blamed oil prices.
>>79872532
so what was the real downfall then?
>>79855645
Socialism is idiot
>>79855620
Any comedian that isn't filthy frank is reddit tier garbage
>>79858401
All comedians who aren't filthy frank are unfunny garbage
>>79874488
historical context, if you can believe it
>>79875080
Where is a Nazi running and how can I vote for this awesome person?
>>79874488
Same reason they include Jesus telling the disciples to carry a sword and God telling Noah to build an ark. Just because it's not directly to you doesn't mean you can't learn anything from it.
>>79855645
IDIOT socialism is good!
>>79855794
Even though they like Bernie.
>>79856816
tears
>>79858839
Sven go to the local libary or book story. Buy a Quran. Read it for 5 pages get back to us tomorrow.
>>79875353
>>79875428
samefaggin this hard
>>79870230
>tfw I had to look up what "enmity" meant
>>79872634
>I like one of the two less but if I say it I stop feeling superior to everyone else
>>79871786
>do you think i would give up gay sex? lol
I wouldn't wish gay sex on my worst enemy, but I don't hate you.
I don't care if you fuck anthills, man. It's your pecker.
I'm a Christian. I believe homosexuality is sinful, but guess what? So is something else you do. So is something or other that I do. It says all over the Bible, no man is righteous, we are all sinner, all are corrupt, none earn salvation, salvation comes fromvgrace, yada yada yada.
You're a filthy degenerate sinner just like me. I cheated on my best friend with his girlfriend. (She was just a dumb sloot, but he was my best friend, so I say it's him I cheated on) That's my sin. I've got tons more. Nasty, horrific, mostly pointless sins that hurt people and let evil get a stronger foothold in this world.
Being a Christian's nothing to do with being sinless, it's about being as good as you can, and trying to be less bad, trying to stay in control of your urges and not the other way around, is all.
Mostly it's about being forgiving and compassionate and kind and understanding and patient and humble.
And if you didn't get that message loud and clear from your first perusal of the Bible, go ahead and give it another pass, maybe try a more "modern English" translation, maybe try listening to it instead of reading it.
I mean the Bible says homosexuality is a sin a couple of times, it says that using false weights and measures is a sin like 300 different fucking places.
Which do you think God hates more? False weights and measures was one of the things that made Jesus, the Prince of Peace, start whipping people in the temple.
I don't recall Him bashing any queers.
>>79874488
Because its what jesus studied. The keys to fully understanding the new testament are found in the old. It gives it more meaning. Plus without it how would you know any of the references to the old prophets like elijah or moses?
I have an idea for one of these but I can't quite get the wording down;
"Those evil right wing bureaucrats tried to shut down the internet with SOPA but we stopped them from implementing their evil dictatorship law"
"Hmm, the TPP? Never heard of it, but it must be good because it's a free trade agreement and those are the greatest things ever, right? What do you mean it's SOPA all over again? I should vote for Hillary, she will surely stop it. What do you mean she had a hand in making it? Well I'm sure it's a great thing anyways since Drumpf is against it and he's an evil racist and everything he hates I'm for"
>>79872634
>I don't like either candidates so I won't chose any of them and will then bitch that everything is shit because of the one that won.
>>79874619
Pointing out someone's flag doesn't lend your argument any credence
>>79866755
Only the most base form of nationalism takes pride in past events.
It's more taking pride in an imagined sense of community which, among other things, provides social solidarity, a common mythology, language, and values.
>>79876095
but its
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>79863526
Underageb&
>>79859459
>nationalism/extended tribalism is the reason i am alive today
>It is stupid to take pride in it
mkay Sven
>>79875876
>"This guy isn't as evil as the other better vote for him."
>“it’s better than nothing.“
Fresh oc
>>79864057
by your logic, murdering a comatose person is completely fine
>>79876487
That's pretty awful. "have you ever been raped" and the 2nd line in general is stupid. Also the third line should read "You literally raped me with your opinion, that's one more rape for rape culture, I'm blocking you rapist bigot sexist transphobe scum"
A few ideas I have:
Stereotypical capitalist/liberal standing in between Chinese workers and unemployed rednecks lecturing them on how free trade is good for everyone.
>>79861316
Link?
>>79864555
I like this
>>79876826
But this literally happened to me on several ocassions
>>79874982
ROFL
>>79874070
I can't resist laughing at that image no matter how many times I see it.
>>79874676
Of course they can't win if nobody votes for them
>>79876946
Asking people 'have you been raped' is idiotic on your end unless they claim to be a victim of rape culture first. It's just like saying "I know this muslim that didn't kill anyone, take that bigot!"
>>79876095
>Leaf.
Now...relax and...look into this image veeeery long and deeply...see how calm you get...yes, anon, relax even deeper...soon your transition will be complete.
>>79865395
Those socks are hot
>>79855007
10/10
>>79877382
its especially dumb considering the overwide definitions of rape feminazis are using means a lot of them will just say "YES I HAVE BEEN" when they actually weren't
>>79864273
i thought this was the future until i saw his hat.
>>79856987
This so much.
>HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW HOW TRUMP IS RACIST OH MY GOSHH
Fuck that, you are supposed to give me a reason he is racist not I to you why he isn't...
>>79863526
Smells like summer.
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