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Explain yourself euroneets.

I moved out when I was 17.

>people living with parents age 25-34
>Finland 4%
>spaghetti-countries and eastern europe over 40%
What.
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I don't know, maybe they don't have the fucking money?
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It's not that great, to be honest. I miss just-cooked homely food. I miss my clothes smelling like a field of roses. I miss the house being clean everyday. I miss getting home from school to find lunch ready and served on the table. I miss being able to hug my mom whenever I needed it.

But yeah, I guess I can walk around naked and come as late as I want. Greaaat.
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>>79813767
Slavs, Mediterraneans and Iberians. Interesting.
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>>79813767
lack of money, lack of job oppurtunies, people overcharging for Rent. Most places where I live pay shitty amounts of money and your average rent where I am at the lowest I could find 800$ monthly and thats WITHOUT utilities, mind you these were in the fucking Ghetto.
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ITSA NICE TO LIVE WITH MAMMA AND PAPPA
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If I had a welfare state pay me an equivalent of minimum wage every week just for getting shitfaced while pretending to be studying maybe I would move to my own flat too.
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>>79813767
Moving out early(especially if you are an only child) is a destructive mechanism in favor of globalism. Especially the propaganda that when you have moved out you can have sex more frequently. They control you with pleasure anon. Also Jews make money on real-estate.
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>>79813767
They stick with their families, continue the country pride as a team, no one gets left behind
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>>79814320
in norway its normal to move out as fast as possible. my father left home when he was 16, my brother left at 17 and me 18

bet you think we had a welfare state in the 60s as well. excuses and more excuses from subhumans like expected
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Yes, good goyim. Why have a proper family when you can just move out and send your parents to Mr.Shekelberg's elderly house?
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>>79813767
Living on your own is a kike meme created to degrade family values and inflate house prices.
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>>79813875
That's not even the biggest problem.
The bigger problem is that most apartment owners won't rent to you, if you don't have a fulltime job and an open-ended employment contract.
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It's cultural.

In Italy you live with your parents and grandparents
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>>79814782
Your ass is cultural. No job, no money to pay anything, all the family helping each other to get to the end of the month... That's what it is, not cultural.
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>>79813767
Only 11.5% in France?
With the price of the rent, really low employment, low salaries and lazy niggers it really surprise me
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>>79814467
In the past you could also support the entire family with only a working father. Times change, who cares how it was in the past? The situation isn't even comparable considering Poland was a communist shithole where you had to wait 20 years for a state to assign you your own flat.
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>>79813767

In america you have to submit your 4 most recent paychecks to prove you make 3x the monthly rent of a place you would like to rent. Do they do the same in Europe?
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>muh welfare state, not fair!
Yeah, in Finland we have a mandatory military service from 6 to 12 months for every 18 year old male.

Man up southern manchilds.
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>>79815090
>Finnish "military service"
ebin
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>>79815090
how is that even relevant to the topic at hand?? lmao
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>>79815083
Yes sadly
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>>79813767
Those numbers correlate exactly with economic prosperity and the strength of the welfare state.
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>yes, goy, abandon your family and become indebted to us
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>>79815090
Dude we have no money
At least for Portugal
Euro zone fucked our uncompetitive economy and ruined Salazar's original economic plan of stable almost 0 growth
EU caused us to de-industrialize and give up on our own agriculture "hey goyim have buy french or german exports, they are better for you"
Its like the fucking Methuen treaty all over again
So yeah
20% youth unemployment would explain those numbers
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>>79815149
Finnish conscripts get best possible scores when taking part in exercises with professional armies and many countries come to Finland to learn aboug winter warfare.

It's not a holiday, it's full 6-12 months of training and it continues in reserves regularly after the service.

>>79815248
>cry about how Finnish youth gets everything for free
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>>79814070
Coddling: End of Civilization (In Theaters Near You!)
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>>79814782
>>79814870

I think Spain has a point here.
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>>79815083
>in America
dont conflate your shitty communist state with all of America, there was no such paperwork when I moved into my apartment
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>>79813767

The whole 'getting kicked out by your parents at 18 and finding somewhere else to live' is a total meme, fabricated to keep our fiat economies that are supported by housing speculation going.

Be in permanent debt instead of having a strong family unit.
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>>79815375
Only thing i remember about the Finnish army is that one of your soldiers tried to steal one of our HK416 because his rifle was so shit.
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>>79815496
>families supporting eachother will lead to the end of civilization
Thats the way it was for the last 8000 years, its only in the last 100 or so that we've decided you have to be self sufficient right out of the gate.
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>>79813767
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>>79813767

> salary $300 monthly
> price of square meter in big city $1500

do you need moar?

> glass ceiling
> corrupted people by gibsmedats
> trying to literally stone to death anyone else

moar?

the hole is deeper than dat
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>>79813767

>eastern europe

I'll tell you why: people here never rent. There's a big difference between the West and the East, in terms of property.

I'll talk about Romania - more than 80% of the population owns land or property - be it a farm, an apartment in the city, a house in a village etc. Given the fact that we are not as advanced as you goys are, we still run with the idea that all of your property will be given to your kids, which basically means that most of the young people inherit the goods of their parents, and they usually just sit in with their folks until they are dead then they profit.

Most of the people that rent in Romania are students that move to another city to study for University or businesses that rent a place to run their shit. You will rarely see a grown man renting his place, most of them own property.

tl;dr: Eastern folks are still continuing the "give your land to your kids" thing, while the West is not that connected with their place of birth / city etc, and they usually tend to move a lot more.
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if this was your parents house, I doubt you'd be in a hurry to move out. I love it here. God bless America.
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You get less welfare if you live with your parents or cohabitate. As a result we have loads of people living alone. Even if you have a girlfriend and want to move together, there's usually incentive not to, since the Finnish welfare state is so pervasive that you don't have to be a pathetic NEET to receive benefits. Many middle-class people get some handouts in the form of rental assistance, child care assistance etc.

We've essentially decided to disincentivize large families as a country. It's one reason why people are so lonely and disconnected.
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>>79813767
>I moved out when I was 17.

That's because you're Finnish and your parents don't love you.

Also the yurt wasn't big enough for you to stay.
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Ive been living alone since the age 14. feels pretty lonely.. but i didint have a choice.
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>>79813767
i live with my mom, because we don't have enough money to rent two apartments, yet we both have a job, her as a doctor, me as an architect.

FUCK THIS COUNTRY!
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>>79815375
>It's not a holiday, it's full 6-12 months of training
:-------DDDDDDDDd
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>>79815764
>Finnish welfare state is so pervasive that you don't have to be a pathetic NEET to receive benefits

How comes you're still functioning as an economy?
We also pay around 50% as taxes, but dont receive nearly the amount of goodies you get.
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>>79815702
This.
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>>79815083

In Romania, you have to pay one months rent in advance + a deposit to your landlord (usually another months rent - this will be given back to you when you leave the apartment) and that's all, you have a place to stay.
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Anyone have that article about the study that shows that 92% of Antifa members stil llive at home?
Lel
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I still live with the family. Mom dad, sisters, three aunties, two cousins (used to be 3 but one of them got married).
We used to have a lot more people, uncles, grandmother and her two sisters, a worker who just did the chores around here, his son. My grandmother was fucking rich before she died. Every birthday was a big commemoration, usually at a restaurant.
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>>79815653
All I remember is Finnish conscript infantry destroying Norway's mechanized professional soldiers in Cold Response 2016.
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>>79814340
What the fuck are you on about
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>>79813767
It's easy to move out when Germany gives you money to buy your own house

>>79813875
and Germans themselves don't have any money
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>>79815882
Your taxes go to EU and refugees.
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>>79813767
I don't see the problem as long as the person actually has a fucking job and is not a manchild that makes his mum take care of him, even better if he/she is the one taking care of the old folks.
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>>79815882
>How comes you're still functioning as an economy?
Protip: they don't.

Finnish economy is in a state of deep structural crisis atm due to the overbloated public sector, collapse of paper industry and the crisis of the Russian market.
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We have smaller populations and more room in the north. With small but not non-existent population, it is easier to keep up the welfare system. Our NEETbux is the reason for what we can see in the map.

Stop breeding so much, you fucking faggots. Keep the population numbers real, and stop ruining the world. But here we come to a problem, with all the mudslimes now inserted in europes ass. They will reproduce more, so we will have to do that also, to save the Europe from destruction. Are you starting to see the check mate?
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>>79816147

>as long as the person actually has a fucking job

Sadly, we do not have the same culture as the West does. Kids here do not work until they finish University - up until then, they just study like lab rats and they do a couple of internships during the summer, mainly because they are compulsory if you want to pass your years in Uni.

As far as I've seen, most of the West encourages their younglings to work ever since they are 16 and they are required to pay rent as well, to their own parents. You'll never see that in the East - kids here go to school up until 18, then go to uni up until 21, then go to work.
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>>79813767
In the UK I couldn't get work till I was 19

I still stay with my parents at 24 because it costs too much otherwise. Rather save up.
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>>79815882
The Finnish economy is basically a 40-year-old bubble that's currently popping.
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>>79813767
Take a fucking look at denmark wow
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>>79815702
/thread
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It is in our culture to have 3 generational houses. Pay is low, prices are high, might as well stay with mama and papa. Also gommunism.
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>>79816366
You are the best country in the World. Honestly. I love you, even through you don't love anyone but yourself.
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>>79815990
Hahhaah no
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>>79815702
Well said.
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>>79816319

Fucking this!

Im 24 now and my gf wants me to move in with her but im uncertain since she lives in another city and i don't have a job there.
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Where the Fuck am I supposed to live
I can literally not find housing
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Can confirm, one of the 33.7 % reporting in.

Working on my PhD., only takes an hour of commute to get to the university, no reason to waste money on Prague housing prices.
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>>79813767
>tfw studied English
>tfw no jobs
Fuck.
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>Denmark
>1.8%

Holy shit! Are the rest of you even trying?! Fucking NEET faggots
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>>79816593
Redundant posting, your flag would've done the job to tell us so much.

Stay strong, Spain.
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>>79815882
>>79816227
>>79815882
>>79816102

Actually it is all about monetary policy. Our economy went to shit with ECU&Euro long before 2008. It was just 2008 that burst our bubble. If we had our own freely floating currency, it would just devaluate 15% in markets and return us back to growth track.

For the german who wonders his state of welfare, well, it also comes to monetary policy and eastern germany state before euro.
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>>79815375
Again: so what? Poland also used to have mandatory conscription for university-aged males until quite recently. It still didn't entitle anyone here to free gubmint gibs or the state granting you student loans at very favourable conditions (which is something you also convinently left out).

But sure, keep shitposting how it's a matter of race and superior nordick mentality
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In Finland it's considered a basic human right to live in your own apartment after you turn 18. That's ridiculous and crazy. A 18-year-old who wants to do nothing but play video games all day can rent a 600 EUR/month apartment in Helsinki. The state will pay the rent and give him additional 450 EUR in a month as social welfare.

This leads to massive-scale abuse by welfare bums. As a Finn, I'm pissed off with the system.
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>>79814320
:^)
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>>79816366
Denmark has the best NEETbux of the nordics, am I right? 1 120 € per month, and no questions. *

In Finland, it's 485,50 € for the month plus the rent that they pay you up to 550€ I think. They can also pay the electricity and water. We also have to be ''looking for the job'' for the time we recieve benefirs to get the maximum bux. This is littlebit trouble but not much, if you have a brain or are a good talker.

Norway has 725 € per month. *

Sweden has 446 € per month. *

* How does the rent go in these ones?
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>>79814070
Get married then. Oh wait
>modern women
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>>79814320
In Finland, unemployed youths who don't even study actually get more money as social welfare than diligent students.
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>>79816753
Stay mad nip
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>>79816753
>Neetbux

wtf are you talking about?
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>>79816664
>This leads to massive-scale abuse by welfare bums. As a Finn, I'm pissed off with the system.

As a Flip I am butthurt for being poor
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>>79813767

That map has to be old as hell.
It was in the news some months ago, that 1/5 or 1/4 under 25 year olds still lives with their parents in the capital area.
And seeing as how the capital area has like one fifth of the population, that's a whole lot.

I too live with my mother and brother and that's because the rents are fucking insane.
Not to mention you can get a 22 m2 apartment for 700€ and a 75 m2 for 1200€ in Helsinki.
It simply makes no fucking sense to live on your own in the civilized areas.
Two people can live in a bigger apartment with NEETbux, where as you can't even live on your own in a 700€ apartment on welfare without extra income.
Of course if you move into the middle of fucking nowhere, it's pretty cheap, but no one wants to live in the middle of a forest.

>>79816664
The government only pays about 450€ of that rent max, rest of it you'll have to pay yourself.
Also good luck trying to find a 600€ apartment in Helsinki.
They're nowadays starting from about 700€
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>>79816664
>you will never be a finnish neet
in burgerland you can only be one if your parents support you
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>>79816807

not in education employment or training bucks

welfare
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>>79815248
It teaches you to be independent and forces everyone to leave home for a while.
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>>79816664
>mfw living alone in a two-room apartment in Helsinki
>mfw the state pays for my 520 eur/month rent
>mfw the state pays for my 14 eur/month sauna fee (not even making this shit up)
>mfw the state pays for my home insurance
>mfw the state pays for my electricity bill
>mfw the state pays for all of my medication (~30 eur/month)
>mfw the state gives me 485.50 eur/month on top of all that just for filling out a form every 1-3 months and reporting in to the unemployment office every 6 months

Wagecucks, when will they learn?
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>>79816770
As a student you have a future and get access to all the school's services from healthcare, discounts, free 10k loan that you don't even have to pay back in 30 years which you can just put on Stöck market, social circles and events while the unemployed just sit home and get depressed.

Not even counting free studies which cost 20k per semester to foreigners.

Students should not get the same as unemployed. Expansion and contraction, you get less while you study bit much more when when you finish your studies.
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>>79813767
>european union

The EU is broke as fuck bar France and Germany. The nederlands aren't completely on their arse but it's no surprise yuropoors are still living at home at 25
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>>79814870

/thread
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>>79813767
>rent house because you cant buy one
>pay your landlord a shitload of money each month for basically nothing
>you could have saved up the money and bought a house in 3-4 years

how does it feel to be cucked by your landlord?
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>>79816934
You can't just get that here

You have to be taking courses, volunteer, actively seek jobs and prove you're doing it etc to get welfare. Either way it's not a big part of the 25-34 year olds who is not employed, so you can pack away that theory.
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>>79816985

brb moving to Finland where I'll never have to work a real job again
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>>79817036
>14.4 %

That's a lot you faggot
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Asian countries are really developed, it's not fair to talk down on us
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Why should I move out?
>living with parents in big apartment
>have no gf anyway
>don't bring any girls home anyway
>work a job and keep 90% of it for myself so can afford much luxury
>standard of living would be shit if I tried to live on the money I earn in my job
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Good goy, keep feeding the housing crisis.
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>>79814183
>not living with your parents until you find a decent woman to look after you
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>>79817338
>Why should i move out

To become a man
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>>79816861
>700€
is this per month? do you need to pay in advance?

you pay 550€ for an apartment in the capital that is around 20 - 40 sqm. interwebs/electricity/water not included
i am quite surprised that the rent here isnt so different from the rent there considering this is, by all means, a shit hole
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>>79817367
That is how we stereotypical view mediterranean men in the north

We all laugh at how fucking pathetic that is
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>>79815090
we 9 months mandatory serxice too, how is this relevant ?
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i worked a 2k euro / month job but i got hit with a genetic disease along with crippling depression so i moved back to my parents, now im trying to get back to life but it isnt easy
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>>79817587
Sorry to hear that poland

At least you're trying to come back instead of just whining about how the world is unfair like the rest of the faggots in this thread. I hope you find a way to live a fulfilling life.
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>>79817587
check out that ID
3RWCUMVN
3 Redhead Women CUM Via Nigger
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>>79817367
God what a cucked attitude
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>>79813767
i guess i could leave but i don't really have a reason to, my dad plays vydia with me and my mom cooks like an angel and i enjoy leaving my dirty clothes on the chair and having them magically clean in the morning.

i also think i would miss watching anime with my brother
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>>79817397
I am a Man, I even served in the Army.
But why should I move out so I can live in shittier circumstances than I do now?
I rather blow 300 every month on weed and vidya.
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>>79817587
Depression is not real you manbaby.
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>>79817765
>I am a man
>why would i live a tough life?
>i would much rather smoke weed and play videogames like a 15 year old

Not a man
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>>79817833
It is, you can't be happy all the fucking time you retard.
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>>79817838
what else should I do?
Sit around in my bydlo apartment in crackton counting pennys?

I also like Brand clothes, I like having a car, I like weed & vidya, I like expensive food at restaurants.
Thats all shit I wouldn't be able to afford otherwise.

Fuck living like a bum
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>>79817833
in my case it was the result of chemical inbalance due to organ failing to provide hormones, so yeah it was as real as putting on 40kg with no changes to my diet and loosing 90% of my hair
i got diagnozed and they gave me hormones and poof! depression gone
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>>79817468
>>79817711
at least we still have traditional women that love to take care of their husband,stay mad and go back to your cuckshed
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>>79817903
Rene Holten-Poulsen won't win gold in Rio.
There I said it
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>>79817934

>clothes
>cars
>food
>weed
>vidya

You have some seriously babby-tier hobbies man, get your shit together and get some real hobbies
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>>79817934
This triggers me

>>79817994
Enjoy being a manchild

>>79818014
He is not only going to win gold. He is going to win silver and copper too.
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>>79816649
Well there are jobs, but the requirements are outrageous and the salary so low you can barely afford to leave the nest. The only way to escape this is doing stuff under the table so it does give you money and experience but can't really mention it.

Families help one another and we all slowly fall in debt to help our brothers, our children and our friends because our government are a bunch of disloyal thieves at the service of a bunch of disloyal thieves.

The best thing that can happen is that Spain crumbles completely and we start rebuilding.
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>>79817457

Yeah that's per month and naturally you pay it in advance.
All payments happen the first day of the month.

Despite that 700€ being pretty much starting price and most of the prices being closer to 850€ for those sizes, it's still not that big of a difference.
I imagined that place being a lot cheaper.
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>>79818068
What for example?
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>>79815375
Nice lies m8 Its 6 - 11 months of jerking off.
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>>79817934
I´m pretty sure that the biggest turn-off for women, notice WOMEN is a guy who lives with mommy above the age of 18. Get a fucking apartment, start working out, decorate your place, get furniture that suits fucking so you can be flexible when you bring home a girl.

>clothes

Lol buy a fucking t shirt that fits and a pair of pants whats so fucking hard about this

>needing a car

move to the fucking city you neet

>vidya and weed

Well just fuck my shit up
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>>79817765
Hey what the fuck? At first, I understood your point. Living in a place that you don't have to pay for and getting money from job is nice way to collect up some money for projects, and for some constructive stuff. Maybe even enough to save for a decent amount for entering the stockmarket.

But.. no.... ''weed and vidya.'' Are you joking? Are you seriously wasting this opportunity, the potential? Or is this bait?

Maybe you should really become a ''man''. You just need firstly to understand, that what is it to be a man.

I bet the dane who told you to ''become a man'' is living in a shit condition, because he has no leftover money cause cucked by rent. And that was some kidn of defence mechanism from him, for himself. To keep himself happy in the false happines or false reality. I'm talking about diffirent manliness than this dane. From other world compared to his.

Break free from the game, wake up and think for yourself. Take the control of your own life. Don't be a weakling, nor a wageslave that will produce nothing and slowly die, while the jew's took advantage of your life sacrifice, cause they kept you in the shadow. Get enough powers to break free from the delusion that the jew creates around you.
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>>79813767
Money you dumb fuck!
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>>79818118

Pretty much literally anything else, anything that is a real skill or has some value. Try reading non-shitty books, target-shooting, woodworking/carpentry, welding, cooking, even fucking gardening, idk man anything that gets you off your lazy ass and doing something productive
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>>79818089
manchild for not doing the housework? Man is getting the money while the woman has to cook ,clean ,take care of the children and if she has time to find a job when the man return to his comfy house and enjoy his free time. You nordic cucks return to your house and find your your wife getting raped
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>>79817994
>traditional women

whatever the fuck that means you can have it Greece, ill stick around some nice, tall blonde bimbos in my cuckshed which also happen to be a 1345 square feet classic apartment.
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Sitting on my PC leaning back i got this view.
60qm own bath, kitchen and entrance.
How dumb would it be to move out?
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>>79818315

10/10 view m8 not gonna lie
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>>79818292
>not finding traditional woman
>wasting his time with coalburner sluts
typical nordic cuck
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>>79817972
>in my case it was the result of chemical inbalance due to organ failing to provide hormone

That sucks Polan, I hope you are feeling better now.
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>>79818268
>manchild for not doing housework

Manchild for hanging in your mother's skirts. Grow up olivenigger.
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>>79818375
I can´t see how fucking a new girl every other weekend is being cucked but sure Greece, sure I am a huge beta cuck
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>>79818434
i am a student faggot i dont have the time to work and there is no welfare here so there is not an option here, when i finish my studies at the university i will find a job and move to a new house with my girl
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>>79813767
>and eastern europe over 40%
The ratio of the average salary to the price of an apartment here is insane. Buying an apartment here is a luxury few can afford.
I've rented many apartments during my life and I have nothing to show for it, money down the drain, but hey, I didn't live with my parents and that's somehow good.
Also there is nothing inherently wrong with living with your parents. If you have a functioning family and you don't hate each other it's great to have parents to help with your children one day.
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>>79818145
there's this "thing" i keep on seeing here.
euroboys like flashing each other and arent bothered if other men touched their wee wee since they are merely being "playful". fin/mongolian bro, is there any truth in this?
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>>79813767
Economy is shit, hard to find a job, most jobs are shit, banks won't give loans, prices are expensive for us.

You know that goverments don't pay for everything you need outside your countries right?
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>>79818544
>i can't study AND work

Bitch i study at uni, work and do the housework in my appartment

You mediterraneans truly are lazy manchildren, no wonder your economy is shit.
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>>79818413
thanks, yeah im feeling much better now, im working to get my life back, but still, i had everything set up, comfy job, flat, last year of university, and everything wetn to shit, cant say im not feeling spiteful and regretful but such is life
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>>79813767
im 18 and im moving out this august.

gib me attention B)
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I'm 24 but since I'm not working yet and my social life is pretty much nonexistent, why would I move out? Mom makes good food, our house is big and I'll stop being a burden when I'll start working. My friend has a kid, car and a wife (prioriteis ;^) already but his flat is slightly bigger than my room, I couldn't live like that.
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>>79818494
you fell for the jew meme to fuck as many sluts as you can
its a huge mistake it will not make you feel complete ever , the right path is to find a traditional woman and have at least 5 white children otherwise you are a complete failure and nothing of what you do matters
PS the sluts that you fuck have taken nigger arab,pakistani pooinloo cock before you
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>>79813767
>Muslims
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>>79816753
In the netherlands a single mother can gain up to 2K euros in benefits. If she plays her cards right.

Meanwhile I have to work a shitty job, don't get any benefits and have a hard time saving up moneys.

Being a white male sucks. But it's also good to know white males are the best species.
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>>79818108
>Well there are jobs, but the requirements are outrageous and the salary so low you can barely afford to leave the nest. The only way to escape this is doing stuff under the table so it does give you money and experience but can't really mention it.

Same here. Also entrepreneurs always lament the fact they don't find qualified workers, while at the same time never offering training on the job. As a result Italy has had stagnant productivity since 1990. I hope these dumb cunts lose everything they've got.
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>>79818614
my university demand too much time and i dont need money i prefer to finish it as soon as possible
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>>79813767
that map is out of date
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>>79818711
I like taking girls home, I wish I could find one that i could stand listening to but shits hard. Should i just sit on my ass and wait for the right girl to drop by? No, you gotta get out there and try shiet
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>>79818780
You don't think my studies take almost all of my time?

You're full of fucking excuses
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>>79818292
You Nordics actually deserve the rot that's befallen you. Just go ahead and cut your testicles too, to accelerate the death of your race faggot
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>>79818739
time to transition, mate
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>>79818629
Unusual for your kind, good job paellanigger
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>>79818956
t. manchild who still lives with mommy
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>>79818788
i know you stop looking at degenerate places like clubs, you have to ask around your friends or the gfs of your friends if they know any decent girl,also you can search at the top universities where the best students go, the church is another option too ,you must been a degenerate yourself if you want to find a non degenerate woman
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>>79813767
Housing prices are prohibitive in developed countries, Finn.

Even now I'm not in an apartment, but rather a room in a house share. I pay £525 a month for this and earn £2000 a month. If I really wanted I could pay £1000 a month, but I still wouldn't have my own apartment unless I lived in an utter shithole.
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I am about to have to move back in with my mother because she has got dementia and can't live by herself any more.

Dreading it.
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>>79819052
Well I work in a club and I am hot and fit and behind the bar so it's practically impossible for me not to pick up girls and why should I stop? Because some Greek neet told me I'm degenerate on 4chan? I love this life. I know I'll have to screw the degeneracy down at some point but for now I'm just enjoying myself
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>>79813767
Scandinavia has such good rates because of socialism. This brings on further problems.
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>>79818221
I have around 12k saved up from 2 years of work and yea I blow money on weed and vidya, also expensive computer parts for muh graphics.

>Get enough powers to break free from the delusion that the jew creates around you.
don't give a shit, the jews can have it all. I just chill my 80 years here.

>>79818185
>I´m pretty sure that the biggest turn-off for women, notice WOMEN is a guy who lives with mommy above the age of 18.
the fuck do I care what some cunt thinks about me?

>Get a fucking apartment
don't want to live on 20qm when I can live on 120qm

>start working out
already do

>decorate your place
what for? I live a minimalist livestyle, don't need any blunder

>get furniture that suits
boring

>fucking so you can be flexible when you bring home a girl.
don't plan on ever doing that, woman are annoying.

>Lol buy a fucking t shirt that fits and a pair of pants whats so fucking hard about this
I buy t shirts for 90€

>needing a car
>move to the fucking city you neet
I rather drive my Mercedes instead of some cuckBus filled with niggers

>vidya and weed
best shit ever

>>79818252
>Try reading non-shitty books
boring activity
>target-shooting
can't own guns here
>woodworking/carpentry
I rather pay some idiot to do the job
>welding, cooking, even fucking gardening, idk man anything that gets you off your lazy ass and doing something productive
all boring shit that can be done by idiots that I pay with my saved up money
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>>79819158
was not expecting that, straya.
that's a lot to take.
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>>79819184
are you colored
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>>79819158
WOW ANON HELPING YOURE MOM
WHAT MANCHILD

LOOK AT ME ANON I LIVE ALONE AND SHITPOST ON 4CHAN ALL DAY AM I COOL YET?
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>>79819194
>i'd rather be pampered by my mommy than grow up

We know Cuckmany
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>>79816985
oh god why
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>>79819263
No I'm white but tanned you know
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>>79819158
That's sad to hear man. Good thing she has you then.
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>>79819288
absolutely, why would I ruin my good standard of living?
that would be retarded
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>>79813767

I'm 26 and still live with my parents.

The only way to make it in Norway without living with your parents, is either being born filthy rich, or waste your money on fucking renting an apartment. Tremendous waste of your hard earned money.

I am living with my parents so I can actually buy an apartment eventually.
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>>79815536
That is not state-mandated you mouth breather. That's a thing in fucking Arizona, one of the least communist states we have left.
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>>79818972
Can't have kids that way, besides I like sticking my cock into wet cunt.
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>>79819184
>I'm just enjoying myself
you never felt true happiness
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>>79819381
>why would i ruin my standard of living?

To become a selfsustaining functioning adult. I know, crazy right?
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>>79819194

Are you me?

Pretty much everything here accept for the working out, but I'm 71kg @ 184cm, so not really fat.

Also I drive rice instead of Mercedes
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>>79819158
you're fighting degeneracy in your own way, straya. good on you.
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>>79819339
:^)
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>>79813767
Here is your answer faggot.

Protip : those stats are still lower than the actual numbers.
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>>79813767
I don't get where the problem/stigma with living with your parents comes from. I am 23 now, so not yet within the age group, and live with my parents. I go to university in the same city they live in. Why should I move out? I'd have to pay utilities, food, rent and basically be an adult. Fuck that. I like not to take care of anything. Whenever I need money, I get it - no questions asked, the fridge is always full, my mom cooks. I'm comfy to the max and I have a good relationship with my parents.

Unfortunately, this is coming to an end, because I'm just done with my Bachelors and I'll be moving to another city/country for my Masters. But I don't think that living with your parents in your early 20s is a bad idea. At 25+ it gets kinda critical tho.
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>>79819383
well that's not a popular choice.
i agree it's practical (money-wise) to stick with parents.

dont you think you become too dependent on them?
i mean its so comfy having someone cook/clean for you moving out in your late 20s might seem like a big adjustment.

>>79819397
rude
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>>79819525
what the fuck spain
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>>79819383
>I am living with my parents so I can actually buy an apartment eventually.

Bad goy, you should blow 70% of your salary in rent, otherwise how can I mantain my luxurious lifestyle?
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>>79819418
too much work, too little reward, like any 'normal' relationship with a cunt
why bother

>>79819436
Ha we are like twins m8, same height, i'm only a bit heavier at around 80kg.
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>>79813767
Housing market here is seriously inflated.
Too much demand for new houses in the Randstad, since that's where the jobs are, but nobody's building them.

If you wanna stand a chance, you'll need a job and a partner with a job.

Or be an immigrant. They get dibs.
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>>79813767
Make 500 YURO a month and starve to death you fucking mongo
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I lived in the Caribbean where you sweat 90% of the days and don't have shit to do, I had a valid reason to escape even though living with my parents is comfy af (too many niggers for me to tolerate).
Then I ran off to Japan at 17 and slaved 2 jobs for the 2.5 years I was there, built character and came back home (flag) to study.
Those 2.5 years of being isolated from seeing my parents did me a lot of good since I was raised in a spoiled way.
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>>79819609
>too much work, too little reward

oh germany, what happened to you?
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>>79819525
i think this is indeed a better basis. what good is it to move out when you are not contributing anything to the economy?

then again some cucks just work but not pay their parents anything while living with them.
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Do you have a source on this image? I want to see when it was first published. The figures are supposedly rising very rapidly.
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>>79818749
That happens here too, business want 20 years old with 10 years of experience, they don't want to take unexperienced workers for cheaper and teach them. It's basically "I don't have a job because I don't have experience and I don't have experience because I don't have a job".
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>all these manchildren actually defending living at home
I always knew /pol/ was shit and full of idiots but now I will take you even less seriously than before.
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>>79815090
>6 to 12 months

We do 24 months.

Man up, kid.
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>>79819697
>wages are shit
>finding a cosy place that isn't in crackton is impossibru
>rather get high instead of doing pointless work that leads nowhere in the end
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>>79819573
How is that rude, my flip friend? Nature runs its course.
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>want to live on my own
>no housing available anywhere near work
>sign up to housing projects
>lol wait 8 years and you might get housing
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Well we don't allow ourselves to be manipulated to do shit, so we choose the better option.
Why live alone in a shitty place or apartment when it is both cheaper and better to just not be a whiny ass and learn to cooperate?
At least that allows you to focus on things that actually matter, development, bettering your position, etc..

Additionally people are more firmly rooted here, in the U.S. it often seems as if someone is willfully manipulating them just to keep them on the move and keep them divided.
This sort of naive consumerism is one rather clear aspect of the succes of such manipulation.
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>>79819525
Reminder that our number are skewed. They don't mention a lot of unemployed members of our society that happen to have skin of the colour poop and welfare.
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>>79819573

No, not really.

I have a 50 minute commute, and if I lived closer to my workplace, I would happily replace the commute with basic housework like cooking and cleaning for myself.
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>>79819677
did you never ask your parents for emergency money since you left home?
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>>79814681
I was wondering if somebody was going to mention this. Families have lived together for millennia, now we suddenly have a problem with it? Like who is going to care for our parents when they are too old too? Some indifferent retirement home worker?
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>>79814782
Stop spewing shit, Jacque. We all help eachother to get to the end of the month, the youth can't find jobs, the elderly get shit at the end of the month and finding a decent source of income is nearly impossible. We live together so to have as much money possible to pay taxes and rent. We get out only when we get married. None is left behind.
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>>79819880
Exactly this, it's fucking retarded.

Meanwhile rapefugees get whatever they want. They are fucking put infront of the housing queue.

I got luckily and am renting an appartment from my uncle.
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>>79819808
Congrats

You're a degenerate
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>>79813767
>live in spain
>don't have job
ironically I don't live with my parents, but they help sustain me. So it really boils down to the same.
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>>79820011
so fucking what wiseguy?
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>>79819602

Dunno, start painting and shill that to people. Surely, with your incredible persuasion skills, they will sell well.
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>>79814870
Being poor is part of spanish/greek culture though
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>>79813767
>moved out before it's legal to have a job
Great, so that means you are some privileged shit that really never really needed to do anything in life.
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>>79816497
ofc we dont. Why would we love subhuman barbarians?

t. your superior hat
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>>79819937
I would be lying if I said I haven't.
Hell, my mother still borrows money from my grandmother.
I did always pay my bills off first, but the hours were irregular which has an effect on income you see.
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>>79819781
>That happens here too, business want 20 years old with 10 years of experience, they don't want to take unexperienced workers for cheaper and teach them.

It's just a ruse from business owners to get cheaper workers and the occasional "purple squirrel". Also people with actual experience are all abroad. A few years ago Porsche had trouble finding experienced indigenous mechanical engineers because they had all emigrated to Germany / uk / northern Italy.
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>>79813875
Unless you live in former eastern Germany you are on average richer than swedes on average.
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>>79815702
Well said
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>>79813767
In Moldova, and I suppose Romania too, it's more like the parents living with their children, even if they are married and have kids of their own.
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>>79816985
The state doesn't pay anything, other people do you subhuman parasite.You're worse than gypsies.
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>>79815702

Town rapist got it corectly.

Plus the housing market is a fucking joke here, the prices for rent are in plaves higher than the average rent in the West while the wages are no way near the same. I was visiting Dresden recently and a buddy of mine that is a researcher there was looking for a new place to rent. I saw the prices, I compared them to home and now I know why our suicide statistics are booming.
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>>79815653
What good would that do? Don't Finns use Russian ammunition?
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>>79819830
>I like sticking my cock into wet cunt.
unnecessary crude language
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>>79820070
>so fucking what

It doesn't affect me, it affects you. So i don't really give a shit.
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>>79813767
That's because we actually love and respect our parents, we don't feel the need to flee from them at the first opportunity.
Besides, when you have a large courtyard building a new house into it is better than every other option.
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the moment when dane
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>>79813767
Hahahaha. At least I won't feel any peer pressure to move out.
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>>79819158
well, I don't know much about this myself, but I still hope there's a god so people like you can get what they deserve.
it doesn't mean much, but you're a good son.
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>>79815702
EU is trying really hard to change that, they raised the prices of houses by more than 10 times. You could buy a weekend house with 2 ar for 10000 Euro 15 years ago, now this costs 15 times or 20 times as much, but salaries haven't changed a thing.
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>>79820093
is it not legal to have a job in shitty slav Slovenia before you turn 18?

I was a newspaper boy at 14. When into retail at 15. At 18 I got a job as a bicycle repairman. At 20 I got the mandatory shitty IT support job.Worked as IT administrator at a medium seized company from when I turned 22. Now at 26 im out of the university and have a good steady job in a large company.

Get off your arses NEETs.
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>>79817367
Fucking manchild go kill yourself
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>>79816327
You should rejoin Sweden, we will enrich your industry.
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>>79820366
>we actually love and respect our parents
>MOM IM HUNGRY
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>>79819158
You're a good man. Your mom is lucky to have you.
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>>79813767
>what is tradition
my grandparents lived in their parents house with them until their parents passed away
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>>79813767
There is many reasons for this, but ussually uni studens who live in dormitory are registered at their parents address. I'm 23, i live 200km from my parents, but because i havent updated my electoroll address im technically living with my parents. There is many cases like this is lithuania
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>>79820435
>implying you can make enough money picking berries and working as boy for everything to own a house, not to mention car and everything else
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>>79820120
i think people here have to recognize that it is not that easy living alone and stop saying that it is the best option.
if they would be fair enough and not rely on neetbux to get by, they will find living alone isnt very simple.

but i would agree that moving out is indeed necessary. not as early as 18 though.
thats a meme age.
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I live with my parents because I love them and I'm too lazy to cook my own food. I make way more money than them and I saved enough to buy my own house but why waste money on that now
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>>79820558
Here is an idea: don't own a house, car etc.

Rent a fucking appartment or a room
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>tfw too poor to move out
>tfw live with dad and mentally retarded brother
HELLO DARKNESS..
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>>79820435
I did all the same, apart from uni. I can't keep up with teachers and students. Too much people around me, I feel as if I am suffocating with people around me. Such a weird experience. I always choke up when talking with more than 1 person at a time. Can't get the words out. I also have a extreme bad case of fear of failure, which is killing me.

But I do have a job and my own place.. it's something I guess.
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>>79819158
alzheimer runs in my family so I know how you feel.

Im not going to lie, seeing people you love slowly fade away is fucking rough.

Try to always look on the bright side Straya and do not forget to take time for yourself (else you might crash and burn).
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>>79820581
I hope you support your parents decently enough.
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>>79813767
Youth unemployment is really high in the less fortunate EU countries but also there are much closer knit families where it's seen as acceptable to live and stick together well into adulthood
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>>79820661
Yeah I helped them renovate the house, bought new TVs,kitchen stuff etc
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>>79814979
Aren't you guys commies?

Maybe it counts people living in hippie communes and drug shelters?
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>>79820612
>renting apartment, car
So how is that making you independent? You even more fucked and spend more money than living with parents, not to mention you got less space. Renting some small rooms is worse than living like a gypsy. I mean gypsies in EU got enough money to build houses here from benefits.
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>give up on my own home, living with parents
>cut every expensive pleasure in life
>lonely, no gf, social life minimum cause i literally work 12h a day after eng. degree,

30 yo and now spending all my money on meds to keep my father alive.

Just fuck my shit up.
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>>79820755
I agree. Renting is the worst idea ever.
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>>79813767
Idk why westerners are making a big fuss about moving out. In Asia, we lived with our parents until we got married and everyone is Gucci about it
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>>79820612
renting is a kike scheme. Home owner elite master race or nothing.
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>>79819383

>waste your money on fucking renting an apartment. Tremendous waste of your hard earned money.

It's really exactly the same over here.
If you want to live on your own, then you'll be looking at working full time to pay for the rent in some small rathole.
It really makes no sense to move out, until you have your life in order and finished your studies.


I'm living with my mother and bro until I have finished my art studies.
Then I'm moving to Sweden to study under professionals, which is a similar form of living.
No rent, no expenses, the pros pay for everything and I help them around and study.
Pretty much an apprenticeship.
When I'm finished I'll dive right into the professional working life and I'll have a nice income right off the bat.
That form of studying really should be more common.
None of this student loan bullshit and struggling to pay the rent while trying to take in information.
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>>79820755
Stop responding to an obvious shitposter. He's probably a computer janitor in the basement of a faceless corporation somewhere.
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>>79820816
See this, it's a gypsy house build from benefits they got from EU and police arrived just in time to tear it down, since gypsies don't even understand legal papers.
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Haha lmaoing at those manchildren.
I'll have you know that you have been lmaoe'd at
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>>79820558
>muh car

Rent a room. Finds some other people in the same situation as yourself and move in together.

Then work hard and get enough money so that the banks will lend you a petty bit of cash. With that cash buy an apartment or something.

NEETs are cancer.

>>79820615
sounds like you got some mental issue. Sad to hear that.

If you are sick I do not expect you to not be a NEET. I wont even judge you.

I however hate healthy but weak people.
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>>79820755
>>79820827
I live in a rented appartment, life is good. Good neighbours, great facilities, my own kingdom where i can do as i please.

You're full of excuses for not growing up and creating your own life. Your parents have pampered you too much.
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>>79813767
my family owns several apartments and we rent them. We require the applicant to have a full time job and to prove that he's being regularly paid. We also require a third figure to guarantee for the applicant and participate in the contract, in case the first person doesnt manage to pay the rent and accumulates debt. 99% of young italians below 30 do notmeet these standards, which are increasingly strict.
Add the fact that most italians own at least one house and its easy to see why no one would move out
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>>79820958
I rather live as a wild man on my abandoned weekend house in middle of nowhere than rent some hole in city, working to pay for some hole.
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>>79820834
>art studies
>nice income
Are you 12?
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>>79820467
My mother just died from a series of severe strokes - i took full care of her for two years and now i look over my ageing father. You're a heartless idiot, i'm sure you'll throw your parents in a hospice when it will happen to them.
BTW i'm nearly 40 and divorced.
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>>79820958
>my own kingdom
It's not your kingdom. It's the landlord's kingdom since it's his house / apartment. You will have your own 'kingdom' when you'll be able to TRULY do whatever the fuck you want in that apartment. Even tear down the walls. You can;t say the same thing about rented aparments though
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>>79820950
>Sharing an apartment with random bydlos
Even worse than living with parents or alone.

Jeez why would anyone make it harder for themselve and lower his own fucking living standard.
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>>79820755
>buying house
>living with your parents

In both cases you are tied down to a place, some of us want to work instead of living on government or mommy gibsmedat. And more often than not chasing jobs requires constant moving around.
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>>79820834
>art student
>lives with mom
>planning on moving to sweden
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>>79821086
Cool i admire that romania, but i'm talking about manchildren that make their parents provide for them so they don't have to work or move into lower quality housing

ie not you

>>79821107
We have laws protecting rights for people who rent, i can build walls and tear some down if i want to, as long as it's not the wall to the neighbor lol
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