Your daily reminder that trumptards are literally trying to put an anti-vaxxer in charge of the CDC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rAq8jp3bw
This will be happening every day if Clinton becomes a president
>>79730794
>I think other people should be forced to get vaccinated because it's what I want
$0.02
>taking vaccines
good goy, don't forget to brush your teeth with our fluoride toothpaste.
>>79730794
No candidate is perfect.
He's fucking right though.
It's a free country, let the people choose if they want to be injected with preservatives and liquid metal.
I live in a suburban town with many mentally ill people, almost all of them have had vaccines and parents have said that they noticed significant changes in their child's behavior after vaccines.
As liberal as I am, I support Trump on this one.
>>79731070
Lack of vaccination affects herd immunity retard.
>>79730794
Healthy young /pol/ak goes to Twitter, reads a 140 character tweet with no context from years ago. Thinks it's a policy - AUTISM, Many such cases!
>>79731144
and?
>>79731070
>He's fucking right though.
No he's not though is he
>almost all of them have had vaccines and parents have said that they noticed significant changes in their child's behavior after vaccines.
Fuck does that mean, it is proven there is no link, maybe they changed because... They fucking aged and grew up.
>>79731361
We're better off without polio?
I sometimes forget /pol/ will take absolutely illogical sides to arguments.
>>79730794
Trump may not be perfect but he's 10x better than Hillary
>>79731144
>>79731445
Last time I checked humanity wasn't a collective hivemind.
Retarded parents should be allowed not to vaccinate their kids. Maybe they'll die and won't spread the dumbass genes any further.
Fake and gay
>>79731445
Get a vaccination if you don't want Polio
I don't see how "herd immunity" gives you the right to control other people's decisions?
>>79731559
>We should allow polio, smallpox, etc to return to be a serious medical problem because some people don't want to vaccinate their kids due to an unscientific and misguided idea that they cause autism
That's literally what you believe.
>1 post by this ID
The alternative is putting a pedophile that funds terrorists into office.
>>79731730
>We should force other people to do things they don't want to do because party of science
That's literally what you believe.
>>79731703
Not everyone CAN get vaccines, and you dont' give vaccines as soon as a child is born. You're arguing that babies a few months old and people with allergies to the vaccines should be exposed to diseases we have effective eliminated from western society just so idiots can feel more comfortable at night.
>>79731445
this desu, most anti-vaxxers get their information from memes and ann coulter. I work at a hospital, we barely ever see someone who refuses to vaccinate their child but 99% of the time they are disgusting mouthbreathers who have probably already passed on a fat load of genetic disorders to their wunderkin. Not vaccinating your kid is literally lose-lose-lose
>>79731815
Trump literally fucks his own daughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMp241gAcw
>>79731885
We do not currently let people raise their children how they want. If you abuse your child, they are taken away from you. We FORCE you to raise your child within the confines of how we think are acceptable. This seems like reasonable and rational legal standards. I'm as much for freedom as the next guy, but I am also a pragmatist. I do not believe that innocent children should die or be made physically and often mentally by the hundred thousands like it was a century ago just because people like you go "muh freedom" at the thought of people being forced to treat their kids well.
>>79731045
this desu senpai
he's not perfect, but the god emperor is the best we've got.
>>79730794
We have a right to informed CONSENT.
So fuck off.
Also, why can't you sue a company for damages from being vaccinated? Do we need to protect the companies because their product is... Idk.. Harmful??
all you people are autistic i bet you were vaccinated too.
though autism is a genetic disorder so cant really be given to you through a vaccine i guess you will just have to blame your parents
>>79731926
and what's intrinsically wrong with that?
it's not like your argument is any different, where everyone should get vaccinated so brainwashed shills like you can feel comfortable at night.
>>79731662
There is shit that is contagious that we can't allow retards to spread to people who don't have a potato for a brain.
>>79731144
You refer to yourself as a member of a herd and don't see a problem with it.
Don't be a sheep. Think for yourself.
I literally don't give a fuck about the vaccine issue at all. If I had to rank the issues I care about, I think I would put vaccines and Trump's comments about them somewhere between what Trump will wear on his Inauguration Day, and a trade deal with Fiji.
>>79732149
Gee, that's a good point. In fact, I wonder why we even let unqualified parents raise their children at all. It seems to me like we ought to take children away from their parents at birth and raise them in state-sponsored collectives where we can be sure that they are brought up with the proper value imparted upon them by authorities. After all, who's a better judge of morality: people, or the government?
>>79732022
That's not what the word literally means America.
>>79730794
Trump's not an anti-vaxxer, and Ben Carson agrees with his stance. The stance? That vaccine regimens for small children should not be given in large doses, but rather broken up into many small doeses over a period of months. Saged.
>>79732303
>brainwashed shills
So tell me, anon.
What happened to smallpox?
My great uncle was retarded because he had polio as a child. What happened to that disease that was so prevalent just 2 generations ago?
I
Also, if you think vaccines cause autism, you're probably autistic yourself and are Alex Jones tier conspiritard.
http://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(13)00144-3/pdf?ext=.pdf
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/pdf/cdcstudiesonvaccinesandautism.pdf
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/index.html
I would like to think /pol/ was smarter than this.
>>79732496
You're right. If you have a kid, you should have the right to beat its face in until it can't breath, smother it with a pillow, and then hang it from your front tree. After all, it's your kid and you have the right to do what you want with it, right?
Unless of course it's a fetus in the womb, then it has the right to life :^)
>>79732496
Sounds better than wal-mart brand people ever reproducing.
>>79732496
Children aren't property.
>>79732566
Doesn't matter if they do or not.
Informed consent.
>>79732546
Doesn't mean vaccines don't cause autism anon. Vaccines are overused and bastardizes through corporatism in the first place, you think they don't have a directive to lie about vaccines en mass?
What kind of authority are you in the first place? Are you a nurse at least?
>>79730794
Pretty much why I used a staggered schedule for my kids. I noticed a change in them for a few days after their shots, even when it was one at a time and spread out over several months.
The vax schedule that most doctors suggest is ludicrous and potentially harmful. Trump is partially right. Get second opinions, use common sense and and trust your parental instincts.
>>79731070
>As liberal as I am, I support Trump on this one.
There exist comments like this, and /pol/lacks still pretend that Hillary is the one sending shills
>>79731319
And during the GOP primary debates, Trump claimed that he had literally seen vaccines give babies autism, but I figured an image would work better on an imageboard
>https://youtu.be/hVHGE_JLQ6I?t=98
>>79732829
Except in this case, your lack of consent affects other people in addition to you or your child if you choose to need get vaxxed. By the way, did you get vaccinated as a kid? How's that working out for you?
How've you been avoiding polio and smallpox this whole time?
>>79732546
What's your point? That we should damage our glands and conequentially our organs just because it works to prevent some diseases?
>>79731363
Mercury crosses the blood-brain barrier. Even if the amount of mercury with multiple vaccines did not cause Autism they still affect the brain negatively.
>>79732837
>Accepts the science that vaccines prevent life-threatening diseases
>Refuses to accept the mountain of evidence that says they don't cause autism
You can support Trump and think he's wrong on an issue, anon. It's okay. People do it all the time.
>>79730794
Trump knows the truth about the vaccine overload because it happened to his youngest son Baron. Him and Melania keep quiet about it in public.
>>79732829
that's not what i'm saying, i agree informed consent is important, it just has no connection to autism.
>>79732837
And what authority on you? I never seen a single shred of credible or scientific evidence that points to a correlation of vaccinations and autism.
I don't even understand why people are against it, beyond "muh gov tryna control me!". You have the opportunity to immune yourself with almost 100% rates against deadly diseases and you choose not to? You choose not to with your children?
>>79731885
You're a fucking moron. If millions of kids don't get vaccinated them diseases that we only get a handful of cases of will come back in full force and drive up everyone's healthcare costs. Its in the interest of society that its members are healthy and disease free and you fucking mongs are undermining that because "muh feels". Never have children please.
>>79732666
Nice try satan.
This isn't even a comparable response to what he said.
We have countless books on elitist who want to collectiveise children's up bringing.
What you mentioned is not normal, people don't act that way, and when they do other people react to it.
So fuck off with your stupid fantasies about what you would do to your kids if BB didn't stop you, you sick liberal fuck.
>>79733037
>Implying
Do you have any proof that vaccines damage our "glands" and organs?
>>79732496
> we have to take everything to the extreme ends of the spectrum because middle ground does not exist
Please kill yourself.
>>79733074
Prove to me that they are credible sources. Does the CDC ever lie? From what I understand from the medical industry, scientists are paid off by major corporations responsible for manufacturing in order to turn a profit
>Prove it
>>79733107
It's called reductio ad absurdum, m8, and it's exactly what he was trying to say. The overarching point is that there is a line, and parents do not have unlimited freedom to treat their kids however they want. Once you accept that line exists, as clearly you and everyone who doesnt' beleive a parent has the right to murder or beat their kids up within an inch of the life clearly does, then it's simply a matter of where that line is drawn.
>>79730915
well at least they are not ganging up on him. why doesnt he fight back?
>>79732981
In no one has it, then where am I gonna catch it from?
Also, driving a car out other at risk, but we know you want to ban that so why bother.
Your feelings, or even safety, do not trump the rights of others.
If you want to be a good little cattle go ahead.
Btw heard emunity is also heard weakness. The idea of a vaccine doesn't have to be bad, for me to put toxic chemicals, or aids in it. And give it to millions of people.
"Many such cases!"
he even talks like a fucking jew
>>79733342
>Prove to me the CDC isn't lying about vaccines not causing autism
wew lad
>implying vaccines dont literally state they can cause neurological damage right on the insert
good goy go take our new product for the common flu every season! hehehe give some to your pets too!
>/pol/ is full of anti-vax lunatics
or
>retards on /pol/ will argue about anything
>>79733390
he sold his daughter to the jews what did you expected?
>>79731926
>allergies to the vaccines
It stands to reason that if people can be allergic to vaccines, then other health problems stemming from them are not that unbelievable.
>>79733077
Some vaccines, and chemicals in them, have been shown to cause health and mental health isues.
Having an over arching, it's good, or it's bad, stance is equally uninformed.
>>79733370
>why doesnt he fight back?
because then they would gang up on him
>>79733074
Labs falsify their results all the time, what makes you think any official report is truthful anymore?
>>79733342
Anon, dismissing every source as corrupt is silly. If someone gives you sources like the CDC, the national institute of health, etc, all trusted by doctors and medical professionals across the country, then you should read those analyses and find the faults in them yourself.
But I digress. If all sources to you are non-credible because it's the only way your argument saves face, you've already lost the argument. So there we are.
>>79733461
I'm anti- forced medication
>>79733193
Unfortunately no, but if you look at the correlation between vaccines and autism and have spoken to parents with autistic children, most will say that vaccines are the problem.
>>79733530
im genuinely curious, do you have any sources?
>>79733193
Do you have proof that they don't? Big pharma is taking you for a ride, son.
>>79733636
>doesn't post a source
>>79733459
Excuse me but those effects are temporary and they were not observed in the clinical trials (it says right there). You're either retarded or you can't read properly, judging from the flag...
>>79733684
Well, I have all my vaccines. My glands and organs are fine :^)
>>79733709
Did you even read what you replied to?
If you don't want the aids that people are gassing you with, its better to have them :^)
>>79733370
if he did fight back, and started winning they would've probably ganged on him.
>implying there wasnt an actual whistleblower from the CDC who said the government covered up the autism link to vaccines
http://time.com/3208886/whistleblower-claims-cdc-covered-up-data-showing-vaccine-autism-link/
good goy, we paid reddit a lot of money to make denying vaccines the latest meme! and dont you question it, hehe. believe in science goy! now eat those gmo corn flakes like a good goy.
>>79730794
>he thinks a newborn with a developing brain getting 20 shots filled with the neurotoxin mercury for illnesses that are rare and easily treatable is smart
>>79731070
you realize many of the diseases that need vaccinations are contagious. without taking the vaccine you are literally at risk of plaguing people.
>>79732666
Works both ways. You don't give a shit about a clump of cells until it passes through a vagina, then all of a sudden it's a delicate flower that must be sheltered from the cretins who produced it?
>>79732725
One wonders who and how many people believe you'd be better off not reproducing.
>>79732773
No one said they are.
>>79733090
>Its in the interest of society that its members are healthy and disease free and you fucking mongs are undermining that because "muh feels".
Then go create a society somewhere that forces children to get vaccinated. Liberty works from the top down.
>>79733212
>forcing parents to inject substances into their children is a reasonable middle ground
Must be nice being the ultimate arbiter of moderation, I bet it makes decision-making very easy for you.
>>79733791
Yes. You need to post sources when making those kind of outlandish claims.
>>79733510
You're absolutely right. Which is why many organizations have done large amounts of research into determining whether or not vaccines cause other health problems and have over, and over, consistently concluded that they do not.
>>79733574
>All the official reports by all medical organizations are all getting paid off by "big vaccine" and not one single whistleblower has ever emerged to expose this grand conspiracy involving millions of medical professionals across the country.
Wew. That's one good conspiracy. The Jewish reptilians have outdone themselves this time!
>>79733461
both, vaccination its obligatory here, you get vaccinated in the moment you are born without even asking to your parents and Mexico has one of the lowest rate of autism per 10k
>>79733633
me too
I hate having legs that work
fuggin gubmint!
>>79730794
>get redpilled on vaccines 5 years ago
>stop taking them
>haven't gotten the flu or majorly sick since
>>79733574
> everything is corrupt so the only thing I can trust is the completely uneducated and uniformed opinions of myself and random mouthbreathers I've met
Lad that kind of thinking is cancerous
>>79733820
>Whistleblower Claims
GOOD GOY
THERE IS A LINK
HEHEHEHE BOYCOTT THE CDC
INFECT YOURSELF FOR THE GOOD OF ISRAEL
>>79730794
>doesnt feel good and changes-AUTISM
i heard that the autism vaccine thing was just slander made by british doctors in the 60s
>>79733820
>http://time.com/3208886/whistleblower-claims-cdc-covered-up-data-showing-vaccine-autism-link/
>For starters, the video was narrated by Andrew Wakefield, the British researcher responsible for seeding the questions about vaccines and autism in the first place. In 2010, the General Medical Council in the UK revoked his license to practice medicine and a year later, the journal that published his paper concluded that his findings were fraudulent.
>i don't read my own article
>In addition, it’s important to note that the study simply correlated age at vaccination and reports of autism, which says nothing about the direction of the connection.
>i don't read my own article
>>79733957
>Mexico has one of the lowest rate of autism per 10k
lol just straight up retardation then? Why is your country a third world shithole filled with morons?
>>79730952
You can't eradicate crippling diseases forever like it happened a bunch of times if there's cunts who don't vaccinate their kids for no fucking reason you dumb fucking Americunt.
>>79733609
The idea of "conventional medicine" was a Rockefeller creation. Piss off, kike shill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTKwcJb401o
>>79733994
>I don't understand sample size
Get an education you miserable faggot
>>79733364
And your point?
I don't think they, "have a right" to beat kids.
But I would rather a small amount of kids get brutalized, than see the world slip into a giant cattle farm.
>>79733636
>correlation
We didn't start diagnosing autism en masse until the 90s. Since then, we've gotten better at determining who is on the spectrum, and people who in the past would just be dismissed as "different" are now diagnosed with things like Asperger' Syndrome. This is the same type of correlation as "in the summer, ice cream sales rise, as do drowning deaths. Therefore, Ice cream causes drowning."
As for the anecdotal evidence, it's just that. Parents buy into the narrative people have told them, and decide that of all the possible things that could have caused their child's autism, it's that one particular thing they did one time that for sure did it because that's what the conspiracy people online told them.
>>79733994
What vaccines do you get that you need to take multiple of in the span of 5 years?
>>79733609
>Lost the argument
My argument is, with some of the worst government corruption in the history of the United States (including the election if Chester Alan Arthur) why do you think medical professionals trusted by the government are to seem trustable? Many people pass themselves off as medical professionals by, like I've said before, forgery and other untruthful means. Listening to conversation from those who have experienced corruption in elite labs has destroyed my trust in these reports until some punitive measures are taken.
What makes you think your "heroes" of the medical industry are as they seem beyond a reasonable doubt when there is widespread evidence to doubt them?
>>79733932
Why should I cite personal experiences?
It's not like I recorded every second of my life and had it verified and uploaded to the internet.
>>79733370
>Surrounded by niggers
>No whites anywhere
>The very little whites there are won't help you
>Fight back, get ganged up screaming world star
He's fucked.
>>79734157
THIS
>>79734078
>>79733609
Seriously, only Muslims in rural Afghanistan are this dumb.
>>79733856
A lot of them aren't really treatable. Fucking polio, measles, and tetanus are no joke.
>>79730794
Someone have a link to the post of him saying this?
I know he's taking out all the shots to try and get the extreme right to vote for him regardless of his own beliefs, but if he keeps up with the anti-abortion, and attacking of medicine by appealing to natural path crazy people it's going to cost him the election by scaring away people who are on the fence. Republicans have been losing the past few years because they step too far into the crazy department. He needs to try and win over some more normal people votes, not extremely Christian women who watch Doctor Oz.
>>79734157
So, you don't believe the parents when they say their children were bright, happy and normal before the vaccines? Parents know when shit changes with their little kids.
>>79733881
>You don't give a shit about a clump of cells until it passes through a vagina, then all of a sudden it's a delicate flower that must be sheltered from the cretins who produced it?
Says who? I like how for some reason /pol/ even turns vaccination faggotry into a partisan issue and assumes everyone who is for vaccines must be liberal. I'm pro-life as fuck. And this applies to the rest of the child's life as long as they live under the care of parents.
>>79734194
Well you aren't a credible source.
>>79734272
tetanus can be cured nearly immediately. Polio doesn't exist, and measles are so rare it might as well not exist for the majority of people.
>>79730952
yes, because vaccines seek only the protection of the one getting it
fucking americans
>>79734437
What outlandish claims have I made?
>>79733657
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
I'm not saying the idea or application of vaccines is inherantly bad.
What I am saying is look at some of these ingrediants. Some of these things are bad for you. And are known to cause health problems even in small amounts.
notice how its only ameritards who are anti-vax?
>>79733871
I'm only at risk of plaguing people who haven't taken the vaccine
>>79734546
MUH INGREDIANTS
Jesus christ dude just stop
can we start a conspiracy about antibiotics causing assburger?
>>79734272
Im pretty sure those are all treatable.
>>79734567
Notice how we want to put a hold on muslims and the rest of you actually say you need muslims to breed with your women to fix your waning population?
I think us being different from you guys is a good thing.
>>79734331
No. I don't. They are as reliable as eye witnesses at a crime, and as any person in law enforcement will tell you with gusto, eye witnesses are really fucking unreliable. People are inclined to realign their memories in ways that suits their personally accepted narrative. It's just human nature. I don't believe the parent-child bond is so special that it somehow overrides that and gives humans perfect and precise memory of every facet of their child. I do not believe it overrides the bias we all have to remember anecdotal evidence that supports our claims more strongly than that which refutes it. And I certainly don't believe parents aren't just as prone to be idiots as everyone else.
So no. I don't believe those parents.
>>79734632
some people are allergic, some people are too young or not up to date.
>>79734546
>that spelling
>>79734666
Ok. I just posted a link to CDC.
Was good enough for the pro vaxers.
That isn't hypocritical at all.
>>79733997
If you don't know what you're talking about and you have reasonable amounts of evidence to not trust a source, then I'm not going to trust the source lad
>>79730952
>I think I'm allowed to endanger others for no reason
Get your children shot or get shot.
That should be the campaign. Anti-vaxxers aren't just retarded but they mean a hazardous danger for their community.
It's good for us because we're pretty useless without vaccines, so eliminating them would be a great way to have our will heard again.
Vote Trump!
>>79734715
>ad hominem nonsense
>>79734333
>Says who? I like how for some reason /pol/ even turns vaccination faggotry into a partisan issue and assumes everyone who is for vaccines must be liberal.
Didn't you just assume I was pro-life because I thought parents shouldn't be required to vaccinate their children?
>>79734498
Banning guns would increase the protection of other people besides gun owners, I guess we should do that too.
>>79730794
>anti-vaxxer
>>79734715
>replying to a leaf
you have better luck replying to an Australian, leafs are full blown shitposters as of late
>>79734737
Key word: some
>>79734746
I didnt check it. I hardly ever do.
>>79734956
>Banning guns would increase the protection of other people besides gun owners, I guess we should do that too.
Yes, yes you should. :^)
>>79731070
>almost all people who are mentally ill drank soda
>>79734679
its a shame she got fat
>>79734546
>And are known to cause health problems even in small amounts.
Want to know what else causes health problems?
The illnesses they protect against. And fevers that can bring a childs brain to temperatures that guarantee permanent brain damage seem like reason enough to take some medicine. The excuse that a drug might contain tiny amounts of something not nice for you is pathetic. All these anti-vax faggots would have their kids hanging around car fumes and eating food that's horrific for their bodies. Daily exposure to every day things in life and bad diet will do an incredible amount worse than a tiny shot which can prevent the kid from literally dying or spreading an illness to another kid with a weak immune system. We've had infants die in Canada because some asshole parent didn't want their kid to get a shot because of some internet tinfoil hat rumour. If your kid spreads an illness that gets someone elses child injured or killed they should get manslaughter charges.
Vaccines are bad as they hurt native viral populations. We aren't that evil, honest!
>>79734272
>tetanus
Not communicable nor is my child fucking around on rusty nails. There is no reason I should have to give my child this vaccine.
Every man I know has been stabbed with a rusty nail, myself included, and nobody got tetanus. Nobody was recently vaccinated either.
>>79735038
dude you made multiple "typos" on easy words to spell. those weren't typos,you just can't spell for shit
>>79735024
>i should be allowed to kill people because I am uneducated and paranoid
>>79733881
What makes you more qualified to determine the middle ground than me?
>>79734941
I'm saying that you being good goys and us believing in freedom is not an argument against americans.
>>79734104
>Leaf
You could explain your reasoning or keep posting meme answers. Your choice.
>>79734914
Your right.
Women shouldn't be allowed to drive.
>>79734853
I was laughing at your complete inability to form a sentence. Please don't get vaccinated, you are a walking abortion.
>>79735136
>Not communicable nor is my child fucking around on rusty nails. There is no reason I should have to give my child this vaccine.
>Your child accidentally steps on a rusty nails
>contracts tetanus
>dies because there is no cure
fugg :D
>>79735168
>i should force people to ruin their lives because I am a brainwashed shill
@79735168
Hello newfriend
>>79731703
>I don't understand how diseases spread
You need the majority of the population vaccinated in order to keep these diseases at bay. You aren't free to endanger everyone else
>>79730794
>Sticking objects inside people without their consent is a-ok
Why are liberals so pro rape?
>>79730794
YOU DONT GET IT.
ANY DEPARTMENT WHOSE GOALS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY STATE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABOLISHED.
>>79735268
You don't understand grade school statistics
If 10 people smoke meth and 9 of them die, should you smoke meth?
Just because you personally haven't been sick doesn't mean the overwhelming majority of people who do get vaccines don't get sick because of it
>>79735159
Didn't read um.
And I don't care
Still not an argument.
>>79735517
You're right. It's just a probably means of deducing that you are not very smart.
Slows brain development so you all stay stupid good goy forever
Go get your shots
>>79735366
>ruin their lives
You mean like contracting polio or tuberculosis and dying?
>shill
cool buzzword, you gonna call me a cuck next?
>>79735293
Not an argument.
>>79734727
>Using obscure psychological concepts of distorted memories that only ever occurs after extreme amounts of trauma to justify why he doesn't listen to parent's complaints
>>79732291
>I don't understand how the legal system works either
Is it hard being a barely functioning adult?
>>79735612
>i cant spell ingredients or inherently
>take my medical advice
Holy fuck
>>79735612
No. It just distracts that I used the CDC as a credible source to prove my point and you don't want to acknowledge that.
>>79735860
Your CDC source doesn't prove your point. what "ingrediants" in there are deadly?
>>79735324
In america, one would manage the symptoms while the body fights off the disease. It's not a death sentence at all.
>>79735860
What is your point?
That hundreds of people get sick as a by-product of hundreds of thousands of people not dying?
>>79735653
People still get TB.
And then we treat it.
>>79735489
>Smoking meth an accurate metaphor to compare vaccines
>Implying vaccines aren't incredibly overused.
I have nothing against tetanus are wiping out major diseases like polio or smallpox, but getting a flu shot every time they come out with a new vaccine seems ridiculous.
>>79733037
suppose it's true
It is actually a good price to pay for eliminating some of the worst epidemics that humans have dealt with.
>>79735968
Except for the 10-15% that do die.
>>79730794
Why can anti-vaxxers never name the specific vaccine(s) that cause autism?
Pick one, and you'll see it's not true. Run through the list of all vaccinations one at a time, and then everyone will be happy to end this idiotic waste of time and energy.
You mind is much like a garden, it must be tended and pruned. If weeds like this shit grow in or around you, then your mind will suffer from the undue burden of weeding out such nonsense.
>>79730794
>“I am committed to make investments to find the causes of autism, including possible environmental causes like vaccines.”
>Hillary Clinton, 2008
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/3/hillary-clinton-obama-entangled-in-vaccines-debate/
>>79730794
>>79735728
Clearly I do understand how it works. If you get a product, and it does something that it is not advertised to do. Like a toaster shorting out and burning your house down. You can sue them.
If you get a vaccine however, it is different. If you die or get sick or injured, there are laws preventing you from sueing the makers of the vaccine.
But ya, let's just keep being jerks and name calling instead of having an actual conversation based on facts.
>>79730915
Ayy that's my city. Buckroe beach fyi, not usually filled with negroids.
>>79730952
It's called herd immunity you fucking autist
>>79736094
And? Do you have a point, are you arguing that the tb vaccine doesn't work?
>>79736111
I don't get flu shots, its not recommended here unless you're old or young or have some autoimmune disease.
>>79731144
I like this term
>herd
You fucking dense sheep.
>>79731035
and dont forget to drink the water and chem trails in the air and that every light-bulb has a camera connected to the NSA
>>79736212
Nice source, from a first world country even.
Wtf I love vaccines now.
>>79730915
Also, why didn't he just run into the ocean?
>>79735653
No, I mean mutating into an autistic missing link and joining our population's gene pool
Also, if what >>79736094 says is correct, there should be no problem.
You can't revert autism.
>>79736431
If a vaccine causes adverse affects not listed on its warnings, then yes you can sue them.
>>79731070
>As liberal as I am
why is it always liberals that are anti-vaxxers.
>>79736460
>I think of humanity as a collective
Discarded.
>>79734128
You know reducing the opposing argument to absurd conclusions is a straw man right? Which isn't really arguing, as much as plugging your ears and saying lalalala I can't hear you.
>>79735943
This one
>>79736464
We don't need to be vaccinated against something we can treat easily. We're not cattle, unless you're a jew, then you probably believe the goy are cattle.
>>79736523
You don't really need to source easily verifiable claims when you're posting online.
I'll help you:
Google "What is Tetanus fatality rate". There's all the sources you need.
>>79735943
And this one
>>79736610
Because liberals want liberty, at least they are supposed to.
>>79736582
There is absolutely zero proof that vaccines cause autism.
And there is a problem with just treating tb because people would die and the disease would spread causing massive healthcare spending, you dense motherfucker
>>79735943
Also this one
>>79736637
I think you are confusing aluminium with lead.
http://www.mountsinai.org/patient-care/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/aluminum-toxicity
>Exposure to aluminum is usually not harmful, but exposure to high levels can cause serious health problems. If you think you have been exposed to high levels of aluminum, contact your doctor.
>>79731070
Proof that the anti-vaxxers don't have a party line.
This could be good for Trump
>>79736629
Look up what the term means before opening your mouth kiddo
>>79736801
>MSG
/ck/ is laughing at you right now
>>79736689
Do you have any idea the strain on the medical system that would cause?
Not to mention hundreds of thousands of deaths
>>79736001
Ok so people do get negatively effected by vaccines. You just said it.
My point is stop being sheep. You don't have to be for or against vaccines to look into them and be aware of both the negative and positive effects.
>>79736930
You're advocating for taking away individual choice on the basis of possibly improving the lot of the whole. Discarded.
>>79736719
>>79736801
>they sound complicated so theyre scary to me
dont poison yourself with dihydrogone monoxide, friend
>>79736464
Well I've had tb, and the vaccine. So no. It doesn't always work.
>>79730794
Trump is right though. I got my shots and then according to my parents I turned autistic. They said it happened to lots of other kids who were around my age too...
>>79736523
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/index.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylmercury
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC490489/
Eat a dick fucker. They inject our babies with this shit. Wonder why they are so dumb and fat.
>makes u think....
I'm surprised /pol/ is so blue pilled on vaccinations to not think the government will purposely put shit in them and then make it mandatory you take it
I mean what's more effective than the chem trail conspiracy than them just injecting that shit right into your veins.
>>79737045
I didn't deny that, retard.
The point is that hundreds of thousands of people are saved every year for the price of a few people getting sick/dying
>Man who did the original "study" claiming vaccines cause autism was discovered to be a complete fraud
>the entire study was falsified because he was paid by an opposition company to slander a vaccine producer
>he lost all of his credibility and licenses
>no such studies have been published since
This is the only point that ever needs to be made about this argument.
There is literally ZERO evidence for the claim that vaccines cause autism. From the very beginning it was 100% bullshit for corporate gain and now these retards try to pretend the opposite is true.
Congratulations, fuckwits, you're the useful idiot.
>>79730794
Yes, good goy! Pump your child full of chemicals
>>79736583
No you can't.
There are laws preventing this in the us.
>>79737187
oops
>>79736523
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3096006/
>>79737157
>another retard doesn't understand sample size
If one guy smokes until he is 102 years old, is it a good idea to smoke a pack a day?
>>79736719
Good crop.
>Most formaldehyde is removed from the vaccine before it is packaged.
Next.
>MSG
Harmful? It's FDA approved for use in food. It's what makes people want to eat more. But I'll source for you anyway.
>http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/monosodium-glutamate/faq-20058196
Sounds like to me that you're just seeing big words and going ooh that's bad!
>>79737220
Yea breaking news I don't believe in chemtrail bullshit either you tinfoil hat nutter
>>79736460
>Someone on this board unironically believes in herd immunity
Just fucking kill yourself, toothpaste nigger.
>>79737300
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3096006/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylmercury
Then bullshit CDC spews...tells you the danger then says removed.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/index.html
>>79737086
How truly libertarian of you. You must also be against health insurance, taxes in any way, the prison system, military service and community service.
You know there's people who are unable to get vaccinated due to medical conditions who depend upon this sort of thing right?
>>79737314
Source a law.
>>79736630
When there are books written on how people plan to implement this absurd conclusion, I don't see how it could be a strawman.
>>79737174
You didn't turn autistic. You are autistic, you fucking spergberger. Your parents are morons, so they assumed it was the vaccine.
>>79737378
>he doesn't know about all the experiments the US government has done on its population
a lot of it is declassified now. I don't believe in chem trails either but I'm not so fucking naive to think they wouldn't give us experimental or intentionally damning vaccinations.
you sound like all those people that called me a tin foil nutjob when I said the government was spying on our phone calls and browsing habits. I was right then and I'll be right again
>>79736714
Lol no
If you get tetanus in a first world country you get some antibiotics and you'll be fine. The disease is easily neutralized, then your immune system takes over. No permanent damage.
Fear mongering faggot.
>>79736629
kys
I have to say it is kind of ironic to be debating vaccinations with literal autists
>>79731144
>herd immunity
lmao
>>79736948
MSG is not good for you. This is common knowledge.
>>79737456
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3096006/
>he thinks mercury is the same as ethylmercury
Take a fucking chemistry class, retard.
Protip: H2O isn't the same as 2H+O
Again, you're just a useful idiot. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about but that doesn't stop you from spreading it.
>>79737602
maybe its time you go and and find a job instead to stay at home and being a neet ?
>>79737187
>>79737337
I think you forgot your reading comprehension vaccine.
>>79731070
Fuck you. I hope you catch measles and they have to amputate your dick. Then I hope to catch polio and have to be a dickless wheelchair-bound faggot for the rest of your miserable life.
>>79737086
>possibly
>>79737129
Nice water meme
No, it's bad for you because studies say it is bad for you.
>>79737620
13.2% of cases in america from 2001 to 2008 were fatal
>>79733370
What the rest of the people said
On top of that he might be a pacifist. I know I have had people try to fight me at parties, and when they hit me I just look at them like they are retarded. Most of the time people don't want to fight some one who refuses to fight back.
Unless they are niggers as shown here.
>>79737694
Ok, but you eat more MSG for lunch than in a lifetime's worth of vaccines.
If you've consumed too much MSG (by whatever arbitrary amount counts as such) is it the vaccine's fault, or the food you eat?
>>79737538
It's common knowledge mercury is toxic. But your sources are all about the toxicity of mercury. Nothing that shows that it isn't actually being removed from the vaccine before it is injected.
>let's tell everyone we have mercury in our vaccines but remove them before injection but really we don't!
Really?
>>79730952
>>79731035
>>79731070
Funny thing is, before Trump said this, most of you were looking down on libs for saying the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.
Being a doctor I can fucking confirm it for you: if you don't vaccinate your child, there's more than 50% chance it will die before it turns 5. So go ahead, jump off the roof just because Trump said it's safe. Oh, and don't forget to vote for him before you do. Good goy
>>79737681
>he didn't go STEM
lmao
>>79737721
Ok thank you for posting, it really made me think
Wasn't this tweet in regards to ben carson talking about some children receiving (I believe it was) 10+ shots within a month period?
All these faggots going back and forth about the "right of choice" and "collective immunity".
Fuck if that makes a god damn difference when we fucking let anyone who wants in the west in. How many 3rd world diseases are comming through the borders unchecked? We bring in low borns from the shit holes of the world, and we have fucking people retarded enough to actively visit these shitholes for recreation and humanitarian work in hopes they bring something back with them.
>>79737754
He won't. And you know why? Because his parents had him vaccinated.
>>79737620
Since you insist on not using the internet to look things up:
Also, first, >pro anti-biotics but anti-vaccine
WUT
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6012a1.htm
>This report summarizes the results of that analysis, which found that 233 tetanus cases were reported during 2001--2008; among the 197 cases with known outcomes, the case-fatality rate was 13.2%.
>>79737220
You know, I can deal with conspiracy theorists like the "moon landing was fake" guys because they actually offer some kind of rational motivation for the conspiracy to happen in the first place (to win the space race with Russia and show how they have better rocket technology). But this shit is outright retarded. What the fuck would any government have to gain for making it's own people autistic? Not just docile or too slow witted to question government authority or anything that could actually help them out in some way. No, apparently they're turning the next generation into a bunch of people who can't communicate with other and who sit around playing minecraft and jerking off to poorly written sonic fanfics day long. Who the hell could benefit from that?
>>79735287
Humans shouldnt be allowed to drive period. Men get in accidents just about as often as women do and men are far more likely to drive WAY faster than they need to and endanger others.
>>79737901
No, because Trump had never heard of Ben Carson in 2014
>>79737913
>unchecked?
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>>79736985
You can still get a vaccine if you want to bite the bullet for the herd, but free people should have the right not to vaccinate.
>>79737694
It's already in your food, fellow burger. The MSG myth is easily debunked by the fact that we consume incredibly high doses of it in Chinese food. Why do you think you're hungry an hour late?
>>79737220
>redpilled means accepting anything presentec to you which disagrees with the common narrative
>>79737992
Are you some sort of the ultimate fucking leaf?
>>79737339
I understand sample size.
If you give out vaccines and a few people are negatively effected by it, not a big deal right?
But when the illness was easily treated, and those few effected by the vaccine are damaged for life.. Well that is stupid isn't it.
>>79737913
good point
>>79737879
>he went STEM
>he thinks herd immunity is an actual thing
>>79738049
No, because a lot of people don't have the option to get the vaccine
>>79737620
And then as the bacteria spreads, and as people use antibiotics to remove it, the bacteria mutates into a form that resists the antibiotics.
Fucking retard. There are worse diseases than tetanus out there. If we stopped using vaccines they would fuck your shit up.
Some things are higher than personal freedom. Namely things that can cause national crisis or widespread death or destruction. Like a significant portion of the populous not taking vaccines.
>>79738049
Free people should also have the right to ostracize those putting society at risk of disease.
>>79737359
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