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Red pill me on the subject of the Holocaust, pol.
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At the moment, I am currently on the belief that it did happen, and all of the events stated by trustworthy and cited sources are true. Come and get me.
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My country forbids me to talk about this subject.

I wonder why but I have a pretty good clue.
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>>79709331
Mine doesnt
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>>79709331
Hey, unless they're sliding into your connections due to your "loli spitroast" searches, you'll be fine.
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>>79709196
"It never happened but it was the right thing to do"

t:/pol/
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>>79709196
"the holocaust" what is a holocaust and why is something so arbitrary given a special name like when a celebrity dies.
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>>79709794
It never happened, and murder isn't good.
have a national socialist constitution.

1: We do not seek any enemies in the world, and our revolution does not go against the interests of any nation.
2: We do not seek to destroy nations.
3: We do not hate other races as a default.
4: We seek out friendship and alliances all through out the world.
5: We are bound to help the peoples struggle for racial freedom and racial sovereignty.
6: We do not tolerate Marxism therefore Marxism must be exterminated.
7: We demand racial purity as the first priority of states within our control.
8: We do not seek war although we do not fear war, we only wish for rationality and respect for our will to be maintained.
9: We do not tolerate anyone going against the interests of our goals and truths.
10: We do not tolerate hatred without jury to fellow comrades.
11: We do not tolerate the unauthorized to tell us what we can or can't do.
12: We do not tolerate warmongers, and criminals.
13: We do not tolerate anyone breaking these rules.
National Socialist international constitution for unity of National Socialist nations

Inspiration and Authority for the international laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gxHH3II-0U
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>>79709196
I think this is the right pic
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>races don't exist
>yet you can't be 100% European
>you must accept this different race
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>>79709942
Fuck wrong one
My image folder had no organization abd in total I am nearing 5000 photos.
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>races don't exist
>yet the jewish race was almost exterminated
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>>79710070
Finally got it.
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>>79709196
Well. I am not allowed to deny it. That can only mean that it happened. I mean why would you create a law that forbids people from denying something that did not happen ? It surely must have happened.
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>>79709929

>1&2 applies to everyone except poland, north africa, the balkans, russia, france, and Britain

Retard post.
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>>79710539
I have yet to see evidence of a single Jew being murdered by Germans.

Can someone give me evidence of a Jew being murdered by Germans, 1 Jew.
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>>79710721
There should be 6 million times more of this.
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>>79710803
Well 12 million times more than a single case, should be very easy.
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>>79710721
There is as much evidence to suggest that 6 million Jews were killed during the yolocaust as the 66 million whites that were killed during Jewish Bolshevism.

There is no substantial evidence for either. But go to jewgle and search them.

Holocaust: happened
Bolschevism: anti semitic conspiracy
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>>79711326
Can someone prove beyond a doubt that a single Jew was murdered by Germans?
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>>79711326
>go to court
>someone says you killed 6 million people
>proofs is a piece of paper
How was this enough for people?
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>>79709331
Fucking hell, even Sweden doesn't have those holocaust-speech laws in place.

Something is up when they have to criminalize that.
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The holocaust is a Jewish lie piggybacking off the real German struggle against the Bolshevisk revolution and it's trying to slander anything related to fighting Bolshevism by automatically labelling it as antisemitic and literally like Hitler. The Jews wanted to make this story generational so they used puppets like Spielberg to make movies about it for decades.
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>>79710613
Well 2 also doesnt apply to usa
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I have an M.D. in History from the University of Houston and a B.A. in Ecology from Northern Illinois University. I work full-time as a Senior Network Administrator in the software cloud computing industry, and whenever possibly I ironically volunteer at my local Holocaust museum as a guide and curator. I say this to explain that I am not some unaccomplished delusional shut-in.

The Holocaust is a total fabrication. It was fabricated out of thin air by Zionist Jews already in Palestine and Allied governments. Nearly all German testimony secured at Nuremberg came from torture and extortion from a position of duress. All of this was done in order to establish the Jewish state and to justify placing all blame for the war onto German shoulders. It could have been done without a Holocaust but it was much easier to justify with the lie. Every single student in my social circle studying history had come to the same conclusion by the time we had earned our degrees. Two of my professors admitted to understanding the truth behind closed doors. The only people who still believe in the Holocaust lie are those who have never acutely and meticulously studied European history.

I will follow this post with a general greentext of the most pertinent aspects of the lie.

PS - Intellectualism and the "university culture" will be the downfall of Western culture in the United States, but you already knew that.
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Has it ever struck you as more than a little odd that so many people miraculously survived an industrial-scale genocide operation undertaken by the most ruthless and efficient group of people who ever lived?

I mean, we're sitting here 70 years later and you're telling me that so many people survived this thing that they make up the majority of your city's Jewish community?

How did these people survive if the Nazis were trying to exterminate them? If they were prisoners in death camps, why weren't they killed?

This is one of the most obvious problems with the Holocaust narrative: if the Nazis really were trying to destroy the Jews, to the extent that they constructed death camps explicitly for this purpose, then how were there so many survivors? How did anyone see the inside of a death camp and come out alive?
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>>79720366

>In 1933 international Jewry declares economic war on German
>Movement led by the Jew Samuel Untermeyer
>Jew Bernard Baruch began to prepare for a shooting war as well
>Baruch appointed Chairman of the War Industries Board by Wilson after The Great War, controlled all domestic contracts for Allied war materials
>Baruch ultimately made a $200m profit

>Rudolf Hoss commanded Auschwitz 1940-1943
>Captured and tortured by the Allies
>Signed confession about gassing millions of Jews
>The gassing method he described @ Nuremberg is not scientifically possible
>Hoss is hung in 1947
>His admission was the initial spark that started the blazing lie
>Regarding the trials, Charles Wennerstrum (American judge @ Nuremburg) said in 1948:

>"... much of the time, effort and expenses devoted to whitewashing the Allies and placing the sole blame for WWII upon Germany."
>"The prosecution has failed to maintain objectivity... it has failed to lay down precedents which might help the world to avoid future wars."
>Reputability of the testimony already called into question only one year after the trials, by the prosecution no less

>Next, Holocaust denial/revisionism is made illegal in several European countries
>Justified by Article 20 of the UN Covenant on Civil/Political Rights

>Jews formed the majority of the Bolshevik elite
>Many German Jews supported communism during Hitler's rise
>Germans afraid of a Jew-led communist takeover
>Rabbi Steven Wise 'spoke for all Americans' and turned German Jews in the enemy inside the gates
>This declaration of war was a Jewish initiative
>Transfer Agreement allows Jews to head for Palestine
>TA/Israel = land theft arranged between the Brits and Baron Rothschild II, who brought America in the Great War
>Holocaust used to justify establishment of Israel

This is very general and rushed as I wrote it from foggy memory, so feel free to ask any questions.
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>>79721839
Thanks for standing up for the truth, Ameribro. It surprised me that you said everyone in your social circle came to the same conclusions and professors even confessed it in private.

How did these people go about that? I mean, someone has to initiate these conservations and it's very uncomfortable to do that...

I would be interesting to hear how these conversations happened.
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>>79722107

It is all very tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic at first, at least with my colleagues it was.

>"You should write an essay on inconsistencies regarding the Holocaust, haha just kidding."
>"That would be easy to write, haha just joking."
>"Are you joking?"
>"Are you?"

Obviously it comes about more naturally with closer friends. I was always very close with my history professors because I was often late/absent and needed to suck up, and I'd stay after class a lot. I had a real heart-to-heart with one professor, he had picked up signals I put out in classroom discussions and mentioned it to me directly after class. The other professor exposed his knowledge during some mindless banter along with that requisite pseudo-sarcasm.

Again, anybody who is obligated to study the World Wars for hours on end every day from every angle will eventually arrive at the truth. I lacked the confidence for it but my best friend did write an entire essay on Holocaust inconsistencies on got a B from one of the harshest graders and the same professor with the pseudo-sarcastic suspicion.

In 50 or 100 years, if things go one way, then revisionism/denial will fade away, and if they go the other, then the Holocaust will be universally remembered as a big lie.
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>>79722737
>"You should write an essay on inconsistencies regarding the Holocaust, haha just kidding."
>"That would be easy to write, haha just joking."
>"Are you joking?"
>"Are you?"

thats kinda cute actually. One of them bro moment "eeeeeh" " EHHHH!"
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>>79710181
You do realize that literally zero liberals consider judaism to be its own race.

Jews are just white people.
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It was greatly exaggerated but it would've been better if it were real because jews as a people are a plague on humanity
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>>79720366
>>79721839
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qb-hbcDcepY

>giving babies herpies and killig them after cutting their dicks up and sucking on them
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>>79720366
>M.D. in History
>University of Houston

Come back when you've had a real education.
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>>79721839
Also, if you had really studied history at the academic level, you would know that Israel was already "established" as it were in the 19th century, and that there is no genuine claim for any Muslims to that land. They came there because the Jews made it habitable, much like they come to Europe for the same reasons today.

Thankfully for you, at least Muslims don't have any historic precedent on which to claim an unwanted backwater state somehow belongs to them (except Spain).
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>>79709196
99% know it happened - there's all the evidence.
1% find certain data/facts that are slightly off and lose their minds trying to prove that it's a hoax.
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>>79723788
>there's all the evidence
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>>79723788
Kill yourself shill
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>>79723563

Yes, but in the modern era, statehood relies on UN recognition, and the UN first recognized Israel 1949. Are you talking about the kingdoms of Israel/Judah? That monarchy split and the independent Israel was destroyed by Assyria in the seventh century BC. I'd hardly call that a 'claim' 1600 years later. That land was subject to the British Mandate of Palestine in the 19th century.
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>>79724136
The jews were literally on the ground in Israel building kibbutzes for decades. Those kibbutzes turned into small towns and eventually cities, and in the meanwhile Muslims started emigrating in because it was (and honestly continues to be to this very day) the only part of the middle east that was not a shitpile.

Israel shouldn't keep them locked in zoos the way they do, but Palestinians are a joke.
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>>79723882
>>79724007

>Heinrich Himmler speaks of the extermination of the Jews
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

>Joseph Goebbels' Diaries: Excerpts, 1942-43 http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/goebbels-joseph/goebbels-1948-excerpts-01.html

>Testimony of Oskar Groening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfFHJE0e1g

In 1946 the British government set up an inquiry with the specific intent of discrediting Jewish immigration to Palestine and downplaying the Holocaust. It was headed by centre-right, non-Jewish, senior judges, civil servants and diplomats from America and the UK.Its reluctant findings estimated the number of Jewish victims from the Holocaust at 5.7 million. Total Number Jews Killed - 5,721,500 http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/angcov.asp

This source refutes the claim that is made by some Holocaust deniers that Red Cross documents support them. http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/international/red-cross/ftp.py?orgs/international/red-cross//300000-victims.response

>Accounts of those who lived in the town which regularly saw the trains along with brutal occurrances. http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/zabecki.html

>The Wanssee protocol - a discussion between high ranking Nazi officials on "the Jewish question". http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/wannsee.asp
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>>79709331
lol cuck.

Holohoax never happened. I can say that without going to jail.
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>>79723882
>>79724007
>>79724513

Excuse mess, on faglet at work.
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>>79724347

I hate backwater Muslim tribes as much as the next guy and I'm not arguing against Israel for their sake, or arguing against Israel's existence in the first place, and I only described the Holocaust's role in the establishment of Israel. As I already said, it was already possible to justify the establishment of Israel without a Holocaust, but the Holocaust made is much simpler. Explaining a formula doesn't imply a hatred for the product. A Jewish victory over Muslims is at least a defeat for the Muslims at the end of the day.
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>>79724347
I'm not gonna argue with you, I have no such intention. I just wanna tell you that you are extremely pathetic and you sound quiet jewy to me also, so shut the fuck up and go bake in the oven. Jewish land my ass, lol.

Do you guys know why jews are so successful? They have no shame at all they will look you straight in the eye and lie, lie, lie without pausing to breath, holy shit. They will lie and do whatever they were doing not bothering to stop for a tiny bit of a minute to explain themselves.
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>>79724567
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

>Italy[edit]
In January 2007, Italy's Cabinet unanimously approved a law making Holocaust denial a crime with a possible four-year prison sentence.[45]
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>>79724567
>>79725037
I think it's fucking idiotic to criminalize holocaust denial - it lands up having the opposite effect which in turn dumbs down people on the subject.
That's the reason people like Irving pop up - they don't actually believe it was a hoax/exaggeration, they simply sacrificing themselves to make a point and fight for freedom of speech.
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>>79724692
Palestinians would still be one of the most secular arabs you could find in the Middle East (like most of the lebanese and syrians, before shit hit the fan) if jews did not drive them into despair with their relentless violence towards them and the occupation, if they were not doing everything to ensure palestinian liberation struggle would take the islamic rout, this includes 'special work' with palestinian parties, - palestinians would still be mostly secular. Hell they are even now living alongside christian palestinians who hate jews just as much just fine. There are more troubles for christians in Jersualem with jews then in Palestine with palestinians. Holy fuck.
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>>79709196

It happened but the numbers are distorted. Also typhus spread through the camps right before they were discovered so it looked even more ghastly. The worst parts were in Ukraine with death squads. Forget the gas chamber bullshit.
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>>79725179
You're a Jew.
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>>79724513
>nizkor
>literally tool of the Canadian JIDF
>parent company: B’nai Brith Canada has had a presence in this country since its earliest days, with roots stretching back to 1875. It is Canadian Jewry’s most senior human rights advocacy organization and is the only national independent voice speaking out on behalf of grassroots Jewish Canadians.

Jews going on the internet and editting history with sources noone can verify
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>>79725552
Nope, I just have a fetish for facts and evidence.
You're new - one can easily tell the difference between a newfag and oldfag simply by looking at how they argue this issue.
>>79725808
Claims are backed with evidence, unfortunately.

Again, this doesn't make me a kike-lover or a zionist, but the moment we start resorting to tumblr like arguments and ignoring of factual evidence we're a lost cause.
Know your enemy better than they know themselves, that's the only way friend.
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>>79724513
Even if it wasn't exaggerated

WHICH IT WAS

They still weren't innocent anyway pretty much deserved it if it had been 6 million

Russia killed way more than even the exaggerated numbers and there's hardly any fuss about that
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>>79725552
Nope, I just have a fetish for facts and evidence.
You're new - one can easily tell the difference between a newfag and oldfag simply by looking at how they argue this issue.
>>79725808
Claims are backed with evidence, unfortunately.

Again, this doesn't make me a kike-lover or a zionist, but the moment we start resorting to tumblr like arguments and ignoring of factual evidence we're a lost cause. We're on an anonymous image board - not facebook or twitter - we can be honest among ourselves.
Know your enemy better than they know themselves, that's the only way friend.
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>>79726293
Don't derail/divert.
Also, if in today's times news sources spew out propaganda what makes you think that back then they never did? This is from all sides - so again don't resort to calling me a kike as a means of arguing.
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>Wife, son an daughter interrogated by British agents
>Found hiding in a slaughterhouse by Bernard Clarke
>Stripped naked and beaten for hours
>Taken to prison
>Beaten with axe handels and deprived of sleep for another three days
>Taunted about the saftey of his family
>Kept in light clothing in his freezing cell
>Described by prison psychologist G.M. Gilbert as having adopted a "schizoid apathy"
>Breaks, admits that the death toll at Auschwitz reached 100,000 per day
>Claims that the fat from their bodies oozed out and covered the corpses of others
>Totally apathetic during his hanging
>His testimony is the foundational keystone to our modern perception of the Holocaust
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>>79726249
I followed the sources and it's just (((them))) and their puppets typing stuff like "new information has arisen to debunk X" and then procedes with the article like I'm just supposed to trust the author.

Go one at a time if you want to not look like a shill because I already looked at 2 of those and was too annoyed by the "trust me" tier bullshit.

Shit like just pulling out a secret interview with Goebbells in which "he said the opposite of what he was recorded saying both privately and publicly" doesn't fly without massive verification from a fairly neutral source like the public Red Cross recorded investigation at the time it was supposedly happening.

Can you even admit that jews as a people are deceptive, lying manipulators similar to how black people in general rape, murder and dont make stable families at ridiculously high rates?
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>>79709196
Jews were oppressed yadda yadda but no way they killed 6 million.

I bet that something like 10k were executed, 500k AT MAX died from neglect.

Even if it was 10 million, who gives a fuck? That genocide would be chicken shit compared to others.

When you need to set laws to stop people from denying it, the gig is up. Any time the speech of anything has been banned, it has been because something is in the water. Secondly, the fact that this minor fucking event has gotten so much publicity is also fishy as fuck.
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>>79726692
100,000/day

That would be impressive even for a full scale war machine to accomplish let alone some prison guards with a dozen or so futuristic (((gas chambers/human ovens)))
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>>79726713
Can you then lay out exactly which points are fabricated totally and how the prove this never existed then.
I'm all for learning something new - don't confuse my questioning and wanting solid evidence as shilling.
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They still murdered a bunch of people with disabilities who had zero impact economically and who spent their lives in abusive institutions.

I don't care if they gassed 6million jews (I feel like if they did, it was a smaller number) I'm just disgusted that they accrued power directly off the backs of the people with disabilities who did no one any harm.

That's what's fucking disgusting about the 3rd Reich: not the Wehrmacht, but the dirty beginnings that meant slaughtering innocents.

And before you give me shit for not donning my stormin boots for this thread, I still think the fucking kikes are just as disgusting and toxic as hardcore nazi ideals in this era.

I just feel bad for a generation of german cripples and intellectual incompetents who meant no one any harm.
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>>79727265
Why is the Canadian post always so fucking wimpy, Christ allmighty
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>>79709196
Just watch "One third the Holocaust"
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>>79727265
a fucking leaf
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>>79727120
>Many Germans hated jews: True
>Jews were more or less enemies of the Germans/Germany for good reasons (treaty of versailles/german revolution of 1919 etc): True
>Millions of jews were discriminated against and rounded up: True
>hundreds of thousands died to starvation and disease: True
Where do you want to go next?

You should understand that even though I kind of wish the holocaust had happened (the jew is destroying the world for himself through manipulation and must be stopped just not necessarily through genocide) it is more likely than not, an exaggerated victim card propaganda tactic similar to 9/11 except that more likely happened as was shown and was just allowed to happen which is effectively the same anyway
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>>79709196
Of course it happened. I don't understand holocaust deniers, they deny the Nazis had the capabilities and strength to overthrow the Jewish population.
They underestimate the power of the Reich, anyone who thinks that they didn't need a fucking tinfoil hat.
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>>79709196
Here you go mate:

The evidence against the Holocaust narrative is overwhelming
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slx74zKQMc

Victim testimonies are thinly veiled propaganda filled with inaccuracies, lies, and contradictions
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

The infrastructure of the camps is unsuitable for the purpose of mass extermination
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ
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>>79727729
I'm not arguing on whether or not they deserved it or that they were parasites causing problems.
Arguing that the holocaust did happen - whether it's 6 million or 1 million - that's besides the main point here.
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>>79727265
You know death and pain are a part of life right?

I mean yeah i am not in favor of genociding potatoe heads and fags but I'm not crying like a little bitch on 4chan over some of them being killed 80 years ago.

Do you like read articles about starving children in Africa and then break into tears?
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>>79722737
It would be interesting to know how many people are aware of the actual truth.

>http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/the-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/
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>>79727891
Would disabled Aryans be more productive and better behaved than Africans?
That's the real question here.
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>>79727983
>>http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/the-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

Countries and people we normally have no respect for, often criticizing their intelligence and capabilities.
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>>79728152
We (Christians, Western Europeans, whites, ...) believe in the Holohoax because of indoctrination and social pressure, not because we're smarter.
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>>79727882
My objective opinion after dozens of hours of research is that it is far closer to 1 million than 6

Ive been to holocaust museums and I've watched TGSNT both with a very cautious skepticism. We cant know with 100% certainty, but honestly after comparing the close to accurate stuff, the semi-reliable stuff, the extremes of both jews and nazifags, my conclusion is that "The Holocaust" as it is portrayed to the general public is an exaggerated lie.

It takes an inch and runs a mile while ignoring the perspective the jewish holohoax should be put into next to gentiles being killed. It all comes down to "God's Chosen People" being jewish supremacists and equating a jew being punched in the face to carpet bombing a city of gentiles because in their mind, the jew being punched in the face is the worse evil.
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>>79727891
>I'm not crying like a little bitch on 4chan over some of them being killed 80 years ago.
If it's true that certain groups were concentrated and destroyed, men, women, children, then that fact shapes history and our conduct now. Just because something happened in the past doesn't make it insignificant or meaningless.
If i could be convinced it didn't happen, that would change my outlook on a number of issues.
I'm still not convinced it didn't happen. Clearly there were plans for extermination even before deportations proved unfeasible, not just as tough talk to entertain the thugs, but actual rational decision making.
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>>79728255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRFadjwNzBI

Don't underestimate our intelligence, please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRFadjwNzBI
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>>79727988
Based Black people > white cucks, feminists, SJW's etc

Pride in one's own race does not mean contempt for other races unless you are jewish in which case they do believe in supremacy rather than seperate but equal differences/pride
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>>79709196

>Red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)
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>>79728542
I agree with what Farage said in that video, South African brother. When will whites finally rise in your country? ;)
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>>79728255
I keep bumping into contradictions like this, makes the whole discussion look like garbage.
Niggers believe in stupid things because they are inferior, whites believe stupid things due to brainwashing.
Jews are essentially inferior, yet run the world from the shadows.
I mean make up your fuckin minds.
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>>79728547
You can put your downie on a leash or back in his cage when it gets out of hand.
It's far harder to contain a chimp-out.
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>>79728685
We make up 9% of the population.
We might own 50% of the wealth, but that means nothing at the moment.
This country's a write-off, unfortunately.
When will you finally rise in your country - Belgium was a fucking beautiful place and you still got hope at least :(
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>>79727871
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqFhsB7URM

Don't forget the interviews from Auschwitz
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqFhsB7URM

They cherry pick out of tens of thousands of recorded jews who they show for their propaganda
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>>79728707
RACIST = RACES ARE SUPERIOR/INFERIOR

RACIALIST = RACES ARE DIFFERENT

Racists (regardless of skin color) are fucking retarded to say that an apple is superior to an orange. They are different and you can like one more, but your like does not make it "superior"
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Now there's something you need to be aware of. Something you weren't taught in school.

The fact of the matter is that Bolshevism was a Jewish phenomenon:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMwgsy6ZD4

80% of the leaders in the USSR were Jewish:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bSAB5OPkwQ

Just as they do today, Bolsheviks back then used deception, propaganda, and control over language to spread their ideology to the masses. Exploiting any class divisions, race divisions, age divisions....etc. to turn people against each other and tear down society.

This movement was financed by wealthy interests, mostly from Germany (and all Jewish). They toppled one government after another in Eastern Europe, and tried to do the same in Germany. After WW1 when Germany was weak, Communist forces staged a bloody revolution. An army of 2 million strong attempted to establish a Communist state in Germany. This army was led, run, and financed by Jews

Are you starting to see how someone such as Hitler could have something against Jews? When he came to power Germans were struggling with a 50% unemployment rate, mass starvation and hyperinflation, and the loss of German homelands in Austria, Hungary and Northern Poland. All of this a direct result of the Treaty of Versailles, which was pushed by Jewish banking interests

The concept of the "international Jew" is someone who has no loyalty to the people of any country. But rather travels around between all countries trying to stir up trouble wherever they can. Jews are semites, who are the descendants of wandering herdsemen. Whereas European society is based in farming, and is deeply rooted to the land.

The goal of Bolshevism is to erase all borders, races and cultures. All gender differences as well. The values that give rise to the Bolshevik mindset are rooted deeply in Yiddish culture. This is a uniquely Jewish way of thinking, which is why Jews are the ones pushing it today (feminism, gay rights, transgender rights....etc).
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>>79728721
Without jews manipulating blacks, they could probably build stable communities if a Martin Luther King would rise up and lead from the front instead of pic related pushing from behind
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>>79728848
Brother, if you are red pilled on your own country then why are you bluepilled on this subject?

Belgium was indeed once a beautiful country, despite the fact that it's a non-country. Fyi, not even 10% of the Flemish population wants the country to split, independence sentiment is not the majority opinion. Most people want more autonomy for the regions and feel both Flemish/Walloon and Belgian.

There will be no rise in our country, I fear. Though I must say that I am proud that we were one of the first countries with a major far-right party: Vlaams Belang. Sadly, they were excluded from power and they are irrelevant now.

Will you keep living there or move? You're always welcome here, bro. I will school you on the Holocaust if we ever happen to meet!
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>>79729206
Bolshevism vs Zionism is an interesting read to understand the international parasitic jew and the nationalistic manipulative soon to be super power jew
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>>79728685
Also, my grandfather was the first guy to bring in and distribute Cote d'Or in apartheid South Africa.
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>>79729402
You should probably emphasize that this was written by Winston Churchill
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>>79729278
Don't get me wrong I see how it's been manipulated and used to push certain agendas, but maybe I confused your skepticism with down-right denial of it ever happening at all - which just makes us look dumb/ignorant and we land up losing any credibility.
I've got a good job and make good money - so I can afford to live really well here.
It's also really beautiful (the nature, outdoors) here, but I might be moving to America if DA don't get elected in the next elections - got some family & friends over there.
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>>79729650
Why?

He is biased for sure but that's why I said just read it but don't trust it 100%
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>>79729746
It's a pendulum of oversimplifaction.

Rather than spend hours explaining it was exaggerated, most people would rather just spam

GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
HOLOCAUST IS A LIE
DAY OF THE ROPE
ALLAHU ACKBAR
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Can we talk about the upcoming film: Denial about the David Irving trial.

Is it true that David sent this letter to Deborah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcx43AmAyY
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>>79729746
>I might be moving to America if Trump doesn't win the election
Lmao, what are you doing on /pol/? How can any sane person prefer Clinton over Trump? Your credibility is also gone, mate.
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>>79709331
No you don't.
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>>79724877
rare
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I cant believe that there are people actually believe that Nazi Germany did not kill innocent people, that all the Nazis were godly saints.

>Yet The Nazis invaded Poland and forced all out of their homes and into forced labor camps
How can you deny this reality?

I am not arguing a case for the holocaust or gas chambers existing but arguing that it is a 100% fact that the Nazis were ruthless killing machines.

My own grandmother and grandfather (who did not know each other at the time until after the war) witnessed Nazis kill lots of innocent people in Poland and they were forced into camps. My grandmother luckily escaped the Nazis who ordered all of the people in the camp to be taken out into the woods and were murdered as holes were dug.

How can anyone deny these facts?

Of course, as the years pass by and all the eye witness testimony individuals die out; there won't be much else to prove that it did happen unfortunately just like what happened to ancient civilizations and the "Jesus did not exist" followers.
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>>79720366
Do you deny that the Nazis committed thousands of deaths on non Jews i.e. the Polish?
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>>79720366
Have you studied into the facts on how German soldiers forced young Latvians to work for them, help them dig trenches to fight the Russians?

I know a Latvian guy who was forced into the Nazi Germany army although all the Latvians had to wear a Latvian flag symbol on their shoulder to show that they were not Germans.

He was never ill treated by the Germans although he did almost starve to death due to their being hardly any food supply.
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>>79731447
No, this thread about the Holocaust in particular. Learn to read, faggot. Nobody denies that Nazi's were assholes, but that should go without saying.

There is nothing useful about screaming 'omg can't believe you just said that' like a leftist redditor. You should fuck off to that site if you discuss matters like that.
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>>79727729
>Many Germans hated jews: True

I thought most if not all of Europe at the time hated the Jews?
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>>79731810
I am so sorry for making you angry. I was in another thread hours ago where someone was actually believing that the Nazis were saints and did not war crimes.

Read this post too:
>>79709929

I am sorry for making you very angry.
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>>79731810
Also before you lose your temper and start cursing at me again: you should realize that those who are holocaust deniers here do believe that Hitler was one of the best political leaders ever and so therefore him ordering Nazis to kill innocent women and children (which yes did happen although there is no evidence that he ordered them to kill Jewish women and children) entierely puts Hitler in the wrong anyway and like you said
>"Nobody denies that Nazi's were assholes"
You should really proof read what some people on /pol/ and this thread have said.
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>>79709196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRxCuujxJSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fi6dM-jByI

Required viewing
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>>79731886
As they should
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>>79731055
Trump will win.
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>>79731055
DA is a political party in South Africa - I said I'm moving out of here if they don't win.
Not sure if you misread that part?
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>>79734618
Is it even possible for them to 'win', when the other party has 60% of the vote?
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>>79721633
I hate to tell you but those signs are from different camps. Obviously 6 mill or whatever number it was supposed to be didn't die in one camp. Also how do they have an accurate account of how many people were burnt to ashes, its most likely an estimation based on logs of prisoners.
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>Reading about Martin Bormann
>Get to the paragraph about him and the holocaust
>"Leaders of the SS and German Police" by Michael Miller is listed as source
>Yet the entire paragraph is lifted verbatim from jewishvirtuallibrary.org
>JVL does not include Miller in their sources
>all JVL sources are hardcore jewish encyclopedias and jewish newspapers
>Wiki ripped the paragraph from jew central and threw on some bullshit source

yikes
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>>79737065
I am aware of that, Ameribro. The 1-1,5 million figure is from Auswchitz, 4 million is overall.
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>>79709196
>Red pill me on the subject of the Holocaust, pol
socialists love to kill or oppress people and they always pick a group to blame e.g. bourgeoisie, jews or white heterosexual males
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A systematic eradication of the Ashkenazi Jews used by the Nazi party to further their attempt of world control, which failed.
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>>79734950
DA won the Western Cape a while back and have been running the place since - they're gaining momentum.
The standard of living has improved for most and it's one of the safest and cleanest places in the whole country.
We've got a black guy fronting them now so hopefully a better chance.
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>>79745566
Yeah but I am talking about general elections, I looked it up on wikipedia.
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>>79745999
There's hope seeing as the Nkandla scandal is still a big issue and they're not letting it go.
We just have to try and continue explaining to the blacks that Zuma spending millions of tax payers money on his home instead of supplying communities with running water and electricity is a bad thing.
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>>79710613
In that case it doesn't apply for US UK URSS FRANCE and others who fought in WWII against him
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