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Why is German economy so competitive?
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>Strong currency
>High wages
>80 million people
>Exports almost as much as the US
Why is Germany so efficient?
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>>79702341
They actually work and not sleep half the day.
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>>79702341
Fiscal conservativity
Free market
Strong currency
Rational decisions
Work ethics
As least welfare state as possible
Deep understanding of economy
Weak unions and other socialist entities
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>>79702341
Not for long. Too bad Merkel didn't have enough confidence in her own people to believe that they could overcome the challenges presented by a lower birthrate.
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>>79702341
> UK behind Italy

How does it feel being formerly great britain, bongs?
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>>79702341
When you force every possible EU rule in favor of your country this kind of bullshit happens.
Good thing at least britbongs realized it and decided to btfo merkel
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>>79702648
Italy has a huge manufacturing sector. The UK is mostly a service economy. The other surprising country in the list is the Netherlands
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I'm more impressed by the Netherlands. Considering they only got like 16 million pop.
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It's their work ethic.

Imagine a construction worker. In Spain they might do 15 doors a day. Working 5 hours a day, this is so they can take siesta sure. But it is also so they will work more days. Giving them more money.

A German construction worker would make 30 doors a day. And he would work 12 hours a day.
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>>79702542
Why wouldn't you as a Slovene move to Germany? Some areas of Slovenia were regarded as a Germanic territory by the third Reich, and it appears they're doing far better than your country unless you work in tourism or service.

So why not move there? Isn't that the beauty of the EU?
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>>79702383
LOL good one
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>mfw see my country almost as high as france

feels good man
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>>79702341
I'm pretty sure it will start crumbling soon.
Considering more EU exits, refugee leeches, civil crisis, falling stock market because the puppet head was executed
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>>79702898

wrong: the post
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Germans aren't even in the top 10 hardest working people.

Schlomo needed a strongarm in Europe to force all the niggers and kebabs into Europe and decided on Germany due to its history with the Jews.

The eu artificially keeps them as the richest nation to keep all the power under one hand.
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>>79702341
different genes?
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Because the Germanic race is the smartest race.
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>>79702341
What table is that? Exports? It isn't GDP...
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>>79702341
Germans are good at everything, excluding politics.
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GERMANIC MASTER RACE
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>>79702898
Spaniards do have a siesta but start early morning and finish late into the evening
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i'm proud of you netherlands
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>>79703192
Exports by country.
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>>79703260
Correct, are you Spaniard?maybe Yes
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Because the single currency overwhelmingly benefits the German economy at the expense of almost every other eurozone country

Also because they were rebuilt from the ground up by the Soviets and Americans after ww2 for use in cold war politics
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>>79702341
What about imports? Who imports more refugees?
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It will crumble soon, the current generation is lazy as fuck and certainly won't be able to hold up that standard.
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>>79702341
because the way the Euro is set up, it mostly benefits Germany
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>>79702908
> Slovene lands
> German Reich
Germans have a habit of treating anyone outside their ethnic group as third rate humans. They are not pleasant to be around. The ones in Switzerland are annoying, arrogant and detestable at best. Also, the distinct culture and language of the Slovenes merit their own country free of German or Balkan influence and destruction. Unfortunately, being under constant occupation for 1000 years, they don't value their independence as much as they should.

> So why not move there?

You need to speak their contorted language and accept discrimination wherever you go. The EU can't remove that, even if they tried. It's the reason the Syrians won't get work anytime soon - they can't communicate with the average German.
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>>79702648
Italian economy was actually pretty great in the nineties

Once upon a time you could say "UK, France, Germany and Italy" in the same breath and no one would laugh at the inclusion of Italy
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>>79702341
High wages. Well it depends. Most wages haven't risen in the last decade.
>>79702542
Fiscal conservativity? Hell no.
The german state wastes money in the billions.
As least welfare state? Heck have you ever talked to some germans. We have one of the biggest welfare states in the whole world.
An average salary will be taxed at least 40%.
( Included social securtiy blabla)
Sales tax is 19% etc....
Weak unions? Most unions are quite mighty for example the IG Metall, Verdi etc.

>>79702898
Although this might be correct, but I asure you that many Germans avoid work like the devil holy water.
All in all the work ethic is really good, but only compared to others.

>>79702982
Second this.
Either way it can't go on like that.
Maybe it will start with the Deutsche Bank kicking the bucket or else, but a new economy crisis is overdue.


Halt die Ohren steif!
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>>79702341
Most of these are done in the UE and the UE is a german association who fit only german interest and kill concurrencie
+american aid after and during the war( americans protect major german industry)
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>>79702341
Eurozone benefics them and their industry
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>>79702341
>Why is Germany so efficient?

They're not, productivity reports consistently show German workers are roughly the same or sometimes even worse than other Europeans when It comes to productivity.

They simply work more hours and live in a country with the infrustrcture built around strong export industries in a currency union that currently has a monetary policy that favours those who export.

If the EU were to dissolve it would harm Germany the most. Germany has the most lose If the EU collapsed. People always say that Geece, Italy, Spain, etc are fucking lazy (and they are but that's not the whole story), and are mooching off Germany simply because they're the richest, but they're the richest BECAUSE of the EU, and Greece, Italy, Spain can't get any better BECAUSE of the EU. The disconnect between monetary and fiscal policy in the EU is keeping Southern Europe on lifesupport and preventing it from getting any better.
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>>79703298
Shell
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>>79702341
Germans have been bred over the centuries to be the perfect serfs. They work hard and never question anything. That's why Merkel is still in power, the simple act of opposing her would require a breakthrough in German philosophy and thought.
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>>79702341
>Why is Germany so efficient?

because we are pragmatic not ideological.
We did not went full-capitalism in the 80s like the US and UK who killed their industry.
We did not go full-socialist like france who killed their competitiveness.

Now we are somewhere in the middle with a large industrial and manufacturing sector.


We're also risk averse, meaning we have many family companies in their third or fourth generation who just dont want any outside influence and dont want to sell their company to some investment fund for a onetime payout.
There is even a tirm for it: "hidden champions", small companies nobody know who are extremely spezialized, mostly family companies, and are #1 in the world in what they do.
Like camera lenses for those expensive movie cameras and shit like that you never hear about.
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>>79702341
Because Germans live there.
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>>79702341
SOLO,check this
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>>79703677
This. It's sad to see Australians are better informed than Europeans.
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Germany has a very high quality gene pool (the white part).
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Where's that chart from OP?
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>>79702542
you are misinformed as fuck

germany is a clusterfuck of regulations.
german welfare state is fucking HUGE.
unions and general socialist sentiment ate really big and influential.
total taxation is among the highest in the world.
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>>79703618
Dear fellow frenchie,
the EU/ UE was founded with the intention of creating a economic union to avoid innereuropean conflict.
The french conquered the german states in a time of your growing population and got you ass beaten 3 times in a row by the German Reich.
The Eu was your insurance against us crossing the Rhein and mutilate you again.
Go and fucking read some Heinsohn.
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>>79703924
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports
I took it from here. The references come from the CIA factbook
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>>79703823
god damn
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>>79703924
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports

>>79703862
Thank you medpack
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I just realized a Hong Kong (a fucking flower) is beating India, a nuclear power over a billion people.

Curries a shit.
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>>79703823
Shut it down!
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>>79704095
Hong Kong is just a legal loop hole,which Chinese use to start up companies,as the Republic of China decentivizes native companies.
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>>79702341
Because the US spent everything they had to rebuild Germany after WWII

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
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>>79702850
apperently that is true.
Iam currently working in the logistics branche as a part-time job, our forklift drivers do exactly that, they play forklift simulator at home.
Don't know whats wrong with them...
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>>79702341
where the hell is bongland?!
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>>79703768
Your first part is plain bullshit, on the second I can agree.
We are nothing special. UK/US industry died because they weren't competitive.
Why weren't they?
Because they regulated a lot and the british car industry built the wrong cars and had no grasp of quality control.
We went full capitalism in the 50s. Ludwig Erhard was a fucking genius.
France is a different story.
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>>79702341

Because the EU is all about benefiting Germany.
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>>79704171
loans. We paid debts shlomo
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>>79704002
Last time i checked alsace lorraine was ours and except 1870(because we were in the shrink of a civil war) you loose every time.

Like half of the northem and eastern france is land conquered by french over german.
I can't wait for a second palatine.


You believe too much in the germanboo /pol/tard read history book and you will see the difference between france and german
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>>79703213
hey, we weren't so bad until 1933 dude.
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>>79704095
Hong Kong is a trade port that services pretty much all of Asia. Goods come to Hong Kong and pass through before they are sent elsewhere, that's why It has so many exports for a country of 7 million people.

Almost all of those goods that were 'exported' from Hong Kong weren't actually made in Hong Kong.
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>>79702341
because it weakens all of us to remain competitive.
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>>79704171
France and UK got more of the Marshall plan.
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>>79702341
Imagine how strong the German economy would've been if they weren't blackmailed into bailing out France, Italy, Spain and England in 1990 to be allowed to buy Eastern Germany from the Soviets and unify.

RIP Deutschmark, the most powerful economic force in history.
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>>79704246
>We went full capitalism in the 50s. Ludwig Erhard was a fucking genius.

you have no idea what you're talking about.
>several mandatory state-owned insurance schemes
>absurdly high tax rates
>welfare programs out the ass
this isn't "full capitalism". this is the opposite. not quite as bad as the scandicucks or frogs, but still FAR away from USA, chile or singapore levels of capitalism.
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>>79704296
Did you forget WW1?

Also why is OP posting about exports only?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
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>>79704280
>You believe too much in the germanboo /pol/tard read history book and you will see the difference between france and german
It's interesting how much Frenchies are desillusionated.
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>>79703557
>Germans have a habit of treating anyone outside their ethnic group as third rate humans. They are not pleasant to be around. The ones in Switzerland are annoying, arrogant and detestable at best. Also, the distinct culture and language of the Slovenes merit their own country free of German or Balkan influence and destruction. Unfortunately, being under constant occupation for 1000 years, they don't value their independence as much as they should.

That's some good input, thanks for sharing it. I don't have much of an understanding of how the "Alp" culture works, when I went through that area I just saw it all as Europe with different languages here and there.

It seems very strange to have a country that has multiple native tongues, but we are probably on the same path. Some areas of rural Texas speak English, Spanish, and German, but those are very isolated pockets in the Hill Country.
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>>79704409
you can't really blame us for WW1, blame austria and hungary for that bullshit,
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>>79704171
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

Look at the fucking infograph in your link. Germany received only half the support as France and only a third of what you gave Britain.
Oh and the patents you stole from the Reichspatentamt had 4 times the worth you gave us in aid.
I really love the US of A but seriously educate yourself.
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>>79704016

That explains why this thread is so retarded. Germans claiming that the American economy is inferior when in real life it makes considerably more money than theirs.
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>>79704225
>>79704016
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>>79702341
Because of €. Every state that uses it for its currency has no choice but to be the recepient of german exports and see its domestic equivalent in the same industries slowly dying off. Or at least not being able to compete with german products and pray to God that they keep their existing market share.

Tl,dr - evil Nazis.
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>>79704409
>Also why is OP posting about exports only?
Because exports shows how competitive the products of a country are in the global market
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>>79703445
>Soviets
>Rebuilding anything in Eastern Germany
>Not raping it
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>>79703768
>because we are pragmatic not ideological.
>invented socialism, communism and natsoc

Germany is responsible for most ideologies. I'd even throw anarchy in there simply because of how influential Stirner was.
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>>79703585
AFD election is coming brother
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>>79704414


>>79704414
You loose praticaly every war against us, it's like 90% of french victory, whatvare you talking abou
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>>79704740
what are we even supposed to be?
evil Nazis or stupid U.S/refugee cucks?
The eternal Nazicuck?
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So the real question is why Germany is so shit.
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>>79702341
Euro is not only German currency, but only germany prints it.
>Inflation affects every eurozone country expect German, which actually gets even richer.
They are masters in jewish tricks.
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>>79703768
The reason you succeed is Market liberalism was your 50s and 60s instead of total depression and degeneracy. Your see-sawing French and English retardation is part of why you are declining, not part of why you are still ahead by a bit.
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>>79704869
Germany didnt exist until 1870.
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>>79704225
we dont make things anymore...
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>>79704791
nice meme, East Germany had a ridiculous amount of money invested into it by the USSR

East Germany had a higher HDI than West Germany at a point in the 80's purely because East Germany was meant to represent how successful socialist countries could become so the warsaw pact countries put everything on the line for it
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>>79702908
>Some areas of Slovenia were regarded as a Germanic territory by the third Reich
So fucking what? I couldn't give a shit about what they "regarded" as "germanic". Nazi's were a bunch of butthur faggots. Daily reminder that the second largest city in Austria is Graz-a wholly slavic name.
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>>79702930
Thanxxx

Here have some freedom cuz 4th of july.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecIVIFLo0uE
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>>79704919
thats just not true, inflation is as bad here as it is everywhere else in the eurozone.
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>>79704280
The French nation and the 6 French blooded men left are a grant from 160 of Angolosphere pity, the term of which has been up for 10
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>>79704171
You ro realize they got pretty much fuck all?
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>>79704889
Both! you have bi polar personality disorder
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>>79704176

At least they've found their purpose in life which is more than most.
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>>79702341
>Why is Germany so efficient?
About import, they are the entry point of the EU in regard of custom.
Sea shipment real entry point: Netherlands. But airmail almost always get in Cologne before being dispatch to other country.
Or at least that what is said to you, sometimes I felt like it was even never actually in Cologne, but only the custom validation was tracked in there.

I dont know about export, but I'm pretty sure they fuck us good in the process, having their economy getting bigger from a lot of transaction made outside of their country.
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>>79704989
Friend I'm not a wehrboo I'm just asking why not move there for the economic opportunities? If you speak the language and understand the culture why not make money in the strong economy?
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>>79704492
I'd say blame the 80+ year old bag of dirt that was the austro hungarian emperor that didnt react fast enough
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>>79702341

Germany is a dirigiste economy. It is export led.

It doesn't follow the Neoliberal Anglo model that is forced on the rest of us.
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>>79704966
what is marshall plan
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>>79704171
Is America the most millennial country?
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>>79702341
US export:
food
lots of small cheap things

German export
technology, machines
few high priced products
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>>79702750
pretty much this.

Germoney essentially extorts money from other european countries by taking advantage of the fact that they can heavily invest in industry and then simply sell the bulk of their produce to other EU countries who have no choice but to buy from other EU countries.

If the EU was to disband, Germany's economy would be the most affected.
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>>79702341
>>Strong currency
are you retarded?

no, seriously?
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>>79703061
>The eu artificially keeps them as the richest nation to keep all the power under one hand.
Pretty much.
>UK joins EU
>EU outsources jobs, pays to move our factories to places like Turkey and Malaysia
>Doesnt do shit to Germany
>Muh German efficiency
Fuck the EU, it's all about removing power from anyone who joins to make them dependent, see Spain being stuck with the Euro fucking them over, or Greece being pushed into debt for additional examples.
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>>79704296
1919 - 1933 was a desaster
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>>79704966

>East Germany had a higher HDI than West Germany

>trusting data on communist countries
>ever


shiggydiggydon't
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>>79704176
>>79705082
I played Farming Simulator when I worked on a farm. I still play it. It's quite fun, along with Flight Simulator X.
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>>79703557
Don't you also speak German (or rather a Swiss variation of the German language) and there's no way to get a job in Switzerland if you don't speak the main 2 languages?
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>>79705273
Rare
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>>79704491
>It seems very strange to have a country that has multiple native tongues,

> Alp culture

It's al about the individual, its rights and its duties. As a citizen, you have certain freedoms, but there are certain things that are expected from you, eg. military service, financial independence and so on. As long as you fulfill your duties, you get respect and the maximum freedom. Whether you speak Italian or French as your first language doesn't matter that much(if you live in the right canton that is, otherwise start learning fast), you are expected to learn a second language at the age of 12.

What's more, Switzerland is a voluntary confederation of 26 equal cantons, not a federation like everywhere else in the world. The confederation has very limited influence on the individual canton. In that regard, the Swiss have something in common with Americans - we like our freedom too.
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What exactly does Germany make besides cars and porn? German goods don't really make their way to the US, does all their stuff stay in Europe?

Sounds like a racket.
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>>79705080
polan pls halp :(
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>>79704246
>Because they regulated a lot and the british car industry built the wrong cars and had no grasp of quality control.

Pretty much this.

And it's not the fault of the workers, either. It's the fault of management.

When Germans came in a bought up failed UK car factories in the late early late 80's/early 90's, those factories magically started turning a profit and producing quality cars - with mostly the same staff they'd had before.

The attitudes of British businessmen was the problem, NOT the workers.
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>>79705347
It was a disaster for everyone
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Unfortunately the UK's oligarchs sent most of our industry to india or china so they can make fatter profits.

Ironically which turned around on them when the Chinese and Indian made wealthy by such deals started buying their companies.

Meaning our economy is now mostly tourism, finance, and owning companies that don't make anything in the UK. The one that do still make stuff in the UK are mostly luxury goods that mostly exist for prestige rather than profit and are hardly an economic blip.
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>>79704280
>France in charge of German territory
I laf every time.
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>>79702542
>Weak unions and other socialist entities
It doesn't get any bigger, unions are fucking this country apart.
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>>79705371
How fucked are you when Europe goes to shit thanks to multi culti?
I think you are one of the few places still able to own guns.
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keyboards, but we've cloned those and our clones are better than the german ones
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>>79705324
The Euro is one of the strongest currencies in the world
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>>79705374
Chemicals
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>>79705374
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_Germany
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>>79705510

WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T THE SOUTH FUCK OFF SMELLY SHITTY FUCKING FUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>79704740
German empire or europe unión
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>>79705374
>What exactly does Germany make besides cars and porn?
Problems for everyone else in Europe. Ruining us for the third time in 100 years, why the fuck didnt we dismantle them after WW1?
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>>79705374

Vehicles: US$249 billion (18.7% of total exports)
Machines, engines, pumps: $226.1 billion (17%)
Electronic equipment: $131.1 billion (9.9%)
Pharmaceuticals: $76.1 billion (5.7%)
Medical, technical equipment: $61.5 billion (4.6%)
Plastics: $60.7 billion (4.6%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $46 billion (3.5%)
Oil: $33 billion (2.5%)
Iron or steel products: $29.1 billion (2.2%)
Organic chemicals: $26.9 billion (2%)

I would have say some foods, engineering stuff, pharmaceuticals and beauty stuff.
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>>79705722
>"U"K talking about dismantling other countries
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>>79705722
Bongs wanted strong Germany as a counterweight to France after ww1
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>>79705374
>What exactly does Germany make besides cars and porn?

Bayer
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>strong because of the EU
Love how you fags ignore the fact that we've always been up there since the industrialization.
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>>79705364
> Speak two national languages or no job

Correct. It is also expected to adopt the local dialect as fast as you can. Also, above standard English is expected the further up you go on the pay scale.

> German

We have our own dialects here, practically every village has its own. You can recognize where people are from if you can identify the dialect. "Standard German" is regarded as foreign and is only used to speak with people you regard as foreign.
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Can't point something german in my home. Where do they export all this things?
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>>79705786
Scotland was split on the vote, most shilling for the idea of Scotland leaving the union is from outsiders. 1.6 million voted remain. 1 million leave. Hardly some case where all of Scotland was dragged out kicking and screaming. Our politicians also dont have the balls to leave and will fuck us over.
None of our issues make Germany less of a tumour.
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>>79705925
You recovered from the cold war so fast because you're siphoning off the wealth of other EU nations
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>>79705564
I'll probably get to stand at the border and watch the ahmeds fighting it out between them. If they cross the line they'll die. Other than that, we don't give a shit like the last two times Europeans decided to gas and kill each other.
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>>79706072
Look at your medicines or your kitchen.I am sure that there is something German there
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>>79706072
not to ukraine it seems.
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>>79705371
>As long as you fulfill your duties, you get respect and the maximum freedom.

That's pretty fucking cool.

Also, the idea of a confederation is a great example of what could have been here during the articles of confederation, what ruined it here was a large debt to European countries after our war of independence and a need for one currency to pay denbts. We had multiple "states" trying to do things individually and it didn't work well without a universal currency. It was a noble goal but it failed, and that bled on until our Civil War.

/pol/ mocks Texas for its Hispanic population but most people don't understand that Texas has been settled for hundreds of years by multiple groups like German immigrants in the hill country, the Anglos in Waterloo (now known as Austin), and the west and southwest of Texas settled by spaniards and tejanos since the 17th century. The only reason Texas was annexed was to pay off debts from our war against Mexico.
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>>79705925
Don't sell yourself short, bruder.

Germany has been the core of Europe since the fall of Rome.
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>>79702341
German Efficiency, too bad they're going to all be mixed with lazy African blood soon.
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>>79706072
Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. You can't afford German technology.
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>>79706072
>Where do they export all this things?
Austria, atleast thats where they shoved their new scientists. Any non poor EU country is currently enjoying the fruits of German cuck culture. If the UK goes broke it may be a blessing in disguise, maybe they will all move to Sweden instead of trying to move here.
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The two largest myths are
>German efficiency
and
>German engineering
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>>79706500
But that's wrong, see Dieselgate.
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Prussian values + the Euro favours economies that are strong which would have stronger currencies if they didn't share with siestanans and gypsies
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>>79706621
Are you trying to prove me right?
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>>79706680
It was my attempt at german humour, how I went?
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>>79702870
Consider hk with 7mil
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>>79706274
>You can't afford German technology.
Germans wont be able to afford it either unless you get your shit together with the "refugees".
Sweden will make a killing from this though, given how cucked your women are I can see them selling you anti rape bracelets. Which will then cause knockoffs to be sold by Africans in France, stimulating their economy.

>>79706175
Good luck.
Dont let Switzerland fall, I need you guys to stay afloat for me to learn more about Carl Jung, and ideally visit any relevent places there to get a better understanding of Jungian psychotherapy.
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>>79706773
German jokes are no laughing matter.
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>>79706500
No the biggest myth would be Japanese efficiency.
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>>79706866
>German jokes are no laughing matter.

Ye, that's the point.
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>>79702542
>Fiscal conservativity
wrong
>Free market
more regulated than other countries
>Strong currency
feels good doesn't it britbongs
>Rational decisions
somewhat
>Work ethics
yeah
>As least welfare state as possible
completely false, germany is basically amerifats nightmare when is comes to these things
>Deep understanding of economy
what is this even supposed to mean you fucking retard
>Weak unions and other socialist entities
again, completely wrong. we have very present unions
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>>79702341
Because good work ethics is the only German thing left that you are allowed to be proud of.

Also your second point isn't really true, German wages aren't that great when you take the qualification and productivity into account.
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>>79705018
But that's just not true. You can rent a room in Frankfurt or Stuttgart for 300€. You can't do that in any other Western European major city. Buying a house in Germany is a fuckton better than doing it in France or the Netherlands.
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>>79706218
We have a common currency too, but there are equalization mechanisms in place to avoid the printing of money like your FED is doing right now. Also, our Nationalbank is strictly independent and meddling in its business gets you ostracized to the point where you need to leave the country.

Also, cantons have a say in those equalization mechanisms. Sometimes it happens that one canton has to start saving money to pay off its debts because the others don't want to pay up.
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>>79706866
kek
Why is their comedy so shit? I dont care about British stuff all that much either, but we have some funny things. Germany has nothing.
In their defence modern comedy is dead, it either tries to shock or cant do fuck all for fear of offending.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwh1BKbrQs&bpctr=1467626932
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>>79706624
i don´t want Germans and your people, literally they have ruined my country
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Multiculturalism.
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>>79702341
>High wages
NOPE. Which is what allows everything else to be true.

They are all PhD minimum wagers.
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>>79706190
Checked. Ukrainian freezer, french toaster, slovenian pharmacy. Nothing, just nothing. They probably export mainly to EU only.
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>>79702542
Is this how the world sees us? Because that is quite flattering, but not really all that close to reality.
The reason Germany is so economically strong is because we abuse the German people as worker drones and pay them like shit, allowing us to waste lots of money on retarded decisions without going bankrupt.
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>>79707024
Leaving the EU fucks your economy too, Germans are bastards fucking you over whatever happens.
On the bright side the EU is a lesson, it's making everyone hate them and it's dying.

>>79707197
>without going bankrupt.
Isnt one of your banks about to implode?
The perception isnt flattering when you remember all the hate for the EU falls on you.
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>>79702648
Italy is one of the three largest net contributors of the EU, or at least still was when I checked the last time.

You can still get into debt even when you have a decent economy, all you need is retarded spending habits.
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>>79707128
>NOPE
PPP
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>>79702383
fpbp
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>>79707313
>Isnt one of your banks about to implode?
Not that I heard of at least. But maybe I just missed it.

>The perception isnt flattering when you remember all the hate for the EU falls on you.
Which is why I hope that we remove Merkel before the EU dies.
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>>79707338
That part of ireland that is dark red contains nearly half our population. My pay halves if I move to Germany.
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>>79707197
>abuse them for lower pay
You nigger. My bro got a contract for 4k€ starting with housing and transport already paid in Germany compared to 2.8k€ in France for the same company in EE. You at least pay more than the French.
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>>79706832
>Anything about Germany
>HOWEVER
>"refugees"
Good post.
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>>79706974
Your country seems to have almost everything figured out, aside from the central bank ostracizing citizens. But that's better than invading countries to strengthen the Fed like we've done for the last few (16) years now.

Would you say conscription military helps keep your country free of bullshit or does it breed people who lay down and accept ideas that are contrary to the Swiss state?
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what do germans think of Gerhard Schreder
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>>79707424
>That part of ireland that is dark red contains nearly half our population
Cool
>My pay halves if I move to Germany.
Still Germany has high wages.Ireland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world.That doesnt make Germany poor
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>>79707426
And your bro is a single person. Meanwhile, the wages in Germany have been stagnating for years.

One of the reasons the EU economy is being fucked so badly by us is because we undervalue our labor heavily.
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>>79703889

Not really anymore considering all the best Germans died in WW2 and then all the women were raped and gave birth to Slavic and Mongol babies. Pre World Wars though I'd agree with you. The world wars destroyed all of the involved European gene pools though.
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>>79707474
typical britshitposting. always the same pattern.
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>>79702341
>Why is Germany so efficient?
They've killed all their european competitors with the mark and then with the euro. France, gone, Italy, gone, Spain, gone. They're also using eastern europeans as cheap labor.

You can thank François "lord of the cucks" Mittérand and the eternal support of the anglos to Germany for that.
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>>79707587
If my wages halve when I move there it is a poor country.
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>>79707592
I honestly thought you guys paid well for high skilled workers. I mean I remember when I was there a plumber took 100€ for a days work. That would be 1/4 of a salary in Eastern Europe but I think you'd know better living there and all
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>>79704862
I sure hope they fuck the establishment good in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
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>>79707747
It's true that paternity tests are illegal in france?
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WAKE ME UP.

Can't wait to migrate to a place with actual fucking living space.
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>>79707821
>meckpomm
Who cares?
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>>79702750
>>79705273
>being this fucking retarded, jealous niggers
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>>79707747
>They've killed all their european competitors with the mark and then with the euro. France, gone, Italy, gone, Spain, gone. They're also using eastern europeans as cheap labor.
this.
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>>79707768
The gross income might look high, but then you have to consider that 40% of that will never actually reach your bank account (or immediately be charged again), that we have 19% sales tax, that pretty much every insurance is mandatory (and thus shit despite being expensive, because there is no competition) and so on.

What Germany does provide you with though is stability - or at least it did but I don't see that continuing for long anymore.
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>>79706218

Texas is based. It'd be even better if there was less negros.
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>>79707891
Considering that the AfD is polling at 19% (and they are always underestimated in the polls) while the SPD is bleeding voters like crazy, I do.
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>>79703557
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>>79705338
we are fucked,lad :(
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>>79707651
>Not really anymore considering all the best Germans died in WW2
Killed all the good British too.

>>79707747
We dont support them, Germany/EU has been detrimental to our economy, I hope our politicians reinvest in our manufacturing industries, but the damage is done.

Hurry up and vote Le Pen already, if Frexit follows Brexit Germany will get fucked up big time, which they deserve at this point. I dont care if Poland becomes the next big player, I just want Germany to get fucked over for all its don
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>>79703677
>Germany has the most lose If the EU collapsed.
Only economically. I think I'd prefer a worse economy over what the EU is doing to us at the moment.
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We germans just realized, that we cant destroy your countries in war. Of course, we aryans are superior, but we cant fight the rest of the world alone, so weve decided to go this way.
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>>79704740
I think this argument is fucking hilarious.
do you know what happened in the late 80s when the frenchies devalued their currency to stay competitive?
all capital flooded into dmark and france came to the brilliant idea to at least get a little bit control back over its own currency by forcing the euro onto germany.
the reality is: the euro is just the same the dmark would have done, but the other europeans have at least some control over it.
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>>79707531
> Conscription

Remember those Humvees without doors in Afghanistan?

If you don't, then it's probably because you are not affected by the lack thereof. Here, thanks to mandatory conscription, every male citizen knows he'll catch a bullet if the military fucks up like this. Accordingly, everyone here has an interest in a working, functional state. The visions and methods might differ and the debates are brutal at times, but once we reach a consensus (usually trough a referendum) everyone is expected to pull in the same direction. The conscription and the direct democracy make the function of state a public matter, there is no space for bullshit - you'll get it back in your face immediately if you vote for it.

Given the legitimization of the entire state, the cooperation as minimal and only as long as it is within the range of duty. If however the need arises, every last Swiss citizen will do his/her best, even the most annoying lefties.

> National bank

Its' not the bank that gets you to leave the country, its my angry fellow Swiss who won't even talk to you anymore if you commit an abuse like that.
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>>79708097
Yes, but eastern germany is pretty irrelevant when it comes to politics, economy, population even. They've always voted rather right. AfD winning there won't be much of a surprise, and not will it have much of an impact.
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>>79708205
>Only economically. I think I'd prefer a worse economy over what the EU is doing to us at the moment.
you are retard ,this union ,only benefit your country
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>>79708184
This we need to destroy Germany once and for all.

Divide it amongst surronding nations.

Notice how Europe was so much better before the German Empire existed.

Germany is a curse by God to the Europeans.
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>>79708124

> eating dogs and cats

They are free to do that. It's their cat, dog and health they are risking, not mine. Nobody cares around here.
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>>79708317
>spread english language
>spread anglo capitalism
>spread anglo feminism and homosex
>replace germans with somalians

wow boy germany sure is doing great with "their" union
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>>79708380
>Notice how Europe was so much better before the German Empire existed.
In what regard?
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>>79708380
you are believing in god, your opinion is irrelevant.
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>>79708311
It won't have a direct effect on federal politics for now, but it will pave the way for the AfD to be perceived as an actual political player and not just a ragtag gang of morons like Die Linke.
You cannot really ignore a party that is consistently wining with such high percentages all across the country.
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>>79708143
We can recover from broken economies, being flooded by Merkel's children while the EU destroys culture/national identity to make us "European" instead of Spanish, British, French, Polish, etc would be irreparable damage. Also we are fucked economically anyway.

>>79708205
Everyone in the euro would be fucked and Germans will be blamed. You wont have many friends.
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>>79708380
>Italians actually believe they have anything to do with Romans
delusion
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>>79702542
>Weak unions and other socialist entities

topkek
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>>79708317
>flooded to the brim with shitskins who are collapsing all our welfare systems
And that didn't even start just last year. Before that we soaked up all the gypsies.
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>>79707580
Der Genosse der Bosse. A socialist who made politics for big business. Now chief of Nord Stream and thus biggest bro of Putin. Loyal to germany, but a monrygrabbing leech nonetheless. Also wastes women like normal men cars. Every 5 years a new one.
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>>79702341
They produce cars, chemistry and machines which are needed in China, India etc. but an ordinary German doesn't enjoy the fruits of this economic growth
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>>79702590
>overcome
You mean that were artificially created.
The evolution of womens rights has shifted the balance of power without responsibilities shafting primarily the fathers who are now financially disadvantaged and less inclined to marry and move in. The now working women have a similar outlook where they would have to give up their precious career which they are told is the manifestation of their struggle against the patriarchy (stupid goys) and aren't lured by the prospects of having a family before they or their partner rakes in some serious money.
To compensate the government should have increased incentivisation i.e. larger tax benefits for having children as opposed to just giving money (150€) per child which exclusively incentivises people on welfare to have more kids. The least they could have done were to adopt a scandinavian model where child support goes to the school and insurances so that basics are provided without giving leeches the possibility to pop out retards to get more money.
This crisis was manufactured by the government and everyone knows it.
People claiming this were somehow a natural occurrence that comes with prosperity have no fucking clue what they are talking about or purposefully lying.
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>>79708470
The whole Victorian era sums up how good Europe was doing before you fuckers decided to unite.

I hope Bismarck is rotting in hell.
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>>79707197
I can confirm this
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>>79706157
Actuwlly we recovered cause of hard work, excellent political planing, not falling for the modern capitalism meme and you sticking to all those stolen machinery, while we simply bought new.
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>>79708509
>such high percentages all across the country.
Well, that's the point.
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>>79708523
>You wont have many friends.
We don't have any friends right now, either.
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>>79708508
Tips.

>>79708508
Coming from the so called "holy" "roman" "empire".

German comedy everyone.
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>>79708590
you should've done better in elaminating us when u were stronk rome :^)
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>>79702341
because we import lots of well educated, hard working immigrants of course.
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>>79706621
Yeah. I too remember when the us introtuced new rules only applying to diesel, while their own industry does not produce diesel and is way less efficient with fuel usage. Hilarious how a car producing nation like italy did dall for the american propaganda.
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>>79708719
ahem... the holy roman empire does not exist anymore, don't know if you noticed tho.
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>>79702341
the force other countries of the eu to not produce or work so that they can make more money
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>>79708531
Then who are the romans decent? And I think he's talking about the Napoleon era.
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>>79708656
Nope non of this is true the Wirtschaftswunder was primarily created via deregulation.
The only reason we haven't been stagnating (too much) is that in the EU we stifle the competition.
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>>79708727
Dont worry the whole of Europe will come and smite you into oblivion.

The Soviet rapes and the bombing of Dresden will look minute in comparison on what we are about to do to your nation and countrymen.

We shall free ourselves from the shackles of German oppression.

I hope your refugees will defend you.

God have mercy on you and your country because we will not!
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>>79708928
Edgy
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>>79708928
kek
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>>79708928
I know you're still upset about Saturday but calm down
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>>79708701
Exactly. You will have even less when you dont have money to get eastern Europe to give you attention. France uses the Euro and are your allies, they wont be happy if you dragged their country down. Germany is seen as the one driving the EU, so when it falls you will be blamed most.
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>>79708790
It does it's called the European union.

Minus the holy and roman of course.

Merkel must be a Habsburg or something.
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>>79708928
>Dont worry the whole of Europe will come and smite you into oblivion.
Any day now. Remember the last time Europe united against Germany? This time Italy will become part of the Sowjet Union.
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>>79708928
Oh shit guys, Italy's genocide crusade starts.. now!
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>>79708928
Dont forget to leave a horses head in Merkels bed.
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>>79709033
imagine what the EU could have been, a holy union of christian whites dedicated to the interests of the european peoples

this is why you must always exclude jews
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>>79708928
hold me im scared
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>>79705198
what is random terms you learned at your semester of History for Babies
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>>79708861
Yeah its true and you are an idiot.
we do not stiffle the eu competition, there is simply no competitive industry left. They went hard on the third sector or never had a big second to start with.
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>>79708786
pstt: Fiat-Chrysler produce diesel for america now :^)
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>>79709015
>You will have even less

We can't have less than zero friends. Everyone already wants to back stab us anyway but just doesn't have the balls to do it - for now at least.
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>>79709163
Yep.
>Make European Union
>Be as anti European as possible, going as far as replacing natives with a backwards, violent group from Africa
Total waste.
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>>79702341
>mfw the poos didn't even make the list
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>>79709249
Yes. And the americans will do everything to keep the fiat side out of business.
you simply cannot produce a competitive diesel at this regulations. Thats the thought behind it.
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They create things that are in high demand to a quality that is unparalleled for a reasonable price. They don't create expensive junk like the UK and the USA.

Too bad it's all coming to an end thanks to Merkel.
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>>79704912

this famalam

Germany is second world tier compared to actual rich countries.

public transport, roads, cleanliness, everything is second world tier each time I go there
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>>79702341
Because they've built the Eurozone to meet their needs. Spain, Italy, and Greece, are held hostage by their insistence on keeping a strong Euro.

Also their government actually seems to function, unlike the US and the UK who are only in it for the memes.
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>>79708928
iam not really some one who likes what germany and the EU is doing.
We are completely cucked by the U.S who start wars, calls for NATO support and then lets europe deal with the refugees.
And Merkel, the stupid, devote dog, just invites millions of them, completely ignoring the fact that here are alot of people who are poor, are homeless, that our schoolsystem is pretty much third world tier, many of them are ignorant muslims who do not want to integrate them selfes into our society and she causes more and more violence amongst the left and right winged people.
Besides that she is about to finally fuck us over by TTIP and CETA.
Just wanted to make this clear.
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>>79709388
Dont forget its filled with Neue Deutsch.

Even small towns like Aachen and Freiburg from them.
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>>79709401
>Also their government actually seems to function, unlike the US and the UK who are only in it for the memes.

No, not really. German autism just makes it less obvious that they are all retarded memsters, just like everywhere else.
If you follow the German media and read about people like Gabriel, Stegner and so on you quickly realize that.
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>>79709249
the american market becomes more and more irrelevant, the german car companies are focussing on china and india.
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>>79702590
>Too bad Merkel didn't have enough confidence in her own people to believe that they could overcome the challenges presented by a lower birthrate.

Merkel is being blackmailed by the (((CIA))). They have her STASI-files.
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>>79709181
>Yeah its true and you are an idiot.
Shit are you retarded Jamal?
Eliminating import taxes pits foreign industries against the local ones with only the logistical transport costs extra. Take a look at Poland where for example their shampoo production has practically stopped all together because our industry was able to simply undercut them without any trade barriers to stop us.
>we do not stiffle the eu competition, there is simply no competitive industry left. They went hard on the third sector or never had a big second to start with.
So its not stifling the competition if we force open a country to an economy that is even by your admittance unquestionably going to crush the local industry?
But I guess I am the idiot here who doesn't understand basic economic principles.
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It's because having no sense of humor makes you that much more efficient
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>>79709595
I wonder if they've tapes of her having sex with big dogs.
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>>79709557
Alright, well the first part stands anyway.
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>>79709849
Yeah, it does. Then again, even a lot of Germans think that is a shit idea.
Robbing your neighbors can't go well for long. And it will be the average German who has to deal with the consequences while the elite, who are the ones who really profit from this, will have fucked off to the US or somewhere like that long before that happens.
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>>79709595
Turns out, recruiting important figures of your government from ex-agents of shady intelligence agencies is not such a good idea.
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>>79710054
Then bail them out and quit gnashing your teeth over it. You want to be in charge, you have to make the tough decisions.

Welcome to the big leagues Hans.
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