Considering Brexit is a thing now, do you think investors will jump on getting into the UK to invest into projects, considering the UK might be free from the EU as soon as next year?
Considering that the british youth is as brainwashed as the rest of the West and are completely anti Brexit we have to wait to see if it will actually happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX3vEIowBXw
>>79628926
Sure it will happen. Once Article 50 is handed in, the train has left the station.
My assumption is, after we trigger article 50, if we actually get out of free movement etc
the EU markets and the UK markets will crash again
the UK markets will pick up faster than the EU markets if the UK Govt has taken the time to get in good trade deals with the rest of the Anglosphere and China/India
If this hasn't done the UK markets will crash for longer than the EU markets until such a time as these deals are in place
Ideally we're looking for tariff free access for our services to China
>>79628625
The economy will be fine the stock market has already stabilized and when everyone else leaves the EU trade will go on as normal and even if they don't leave they'd be nuts to cut off trade with the UK they would loose money themself's and ontop of all this Russia is in talks to do some big trade deals with the UK when they leave.
I suggest to the Brits Relax it'l be fine and you'll be able to take your country back and start tearing down all the red tape the EU has made.
>>79629219
>Ideally we're looking for tariff free access for our services to China
Exports of services to China from the UK are nearly 100 times smaller than exports of services to the EU from the UK.
>he is a leftist
>he is also a liberal (???)
>he supports globalization
>he supports democracy fanatically and opposes fascism
>until the second something he doesn't want gets democratically elected
>then he calls the democrats fascists and becomes a fascist himself
>but he hates fascists!
>>79629365
Can you explain why the Pound plunged to 1.32 to the dollar (from 1.50 to the dollar) and to 1.19 to the Euro (from 1.32 to the Euro)?
Why would people sell the Pound if things will all be ok? I do not understand.
>>79629611
Oh believe me I know
but its a market that can and will grow
we'll easily be able to take advantage of it in the future, obviously we are looking to continue free trade with the EU
>>79629704
They panicked
why would you sell based off of a non legally binding referendum that hasn't even triggered article 50?
Its nonsense
If it wasn't just a panic reaction then they would've waited until article 50 was trigegred or the UK had official left the EU
>>79628926
If it doesn't happen we riot
>>79629838
>but its a market that can and will grow
Which parts of the services exports will grow? I have posted a graphic with a split of the exports.
>>79629838
>why would you sell based off of a non legally binding referendum that hasn't even triggered article 50?
Because it is 95% likely that Article 50 will be triggered?
>>79629838
>If it wasn't just a panic reaction then they would've waited until article 50 was trigegred or the UK had official left the EU
Why should a trader wait until something happens, they know will happen?
>>79629704
The pound dropped because people panicked in te stock market when Brexits result came through the polls but don't worry.
I know it's a complicated mess but it'l be ok just don't watch the news too much there bias as hell against BREXIT and try to scare people away from leaving.
Don't panic when the pound drops ,yes it means your Imports will go down due to your money being worth less but your Exports will go right up to compensate this. It'l be fine and even if things might be a little hard at first in the long run your country will be better off.
Also the stock market is going back to normal anyway already.
>>79629704
That was because the money men didn't belive we would vote leave then panicked and dumped stocks flooding the market causing a dip nothing more nothing less
I expect our GDP to shrink a little - at least until the Eurozone inevitably crashes - but I also think it'll overall benefit the British working-class, which is more important.
>>79630201
Hey Nige it's your buddy Putin you wanna do some trade deals to piss off the Merkel bitch ?
>>79630108
>Which parts of the services exports will grow?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0f6f0018-9817-11e5-bdda-9f13f99fa654.html
>Because it is 95% likely that Article 50 will be triggered?
The process of leaving the EU is around two years after article 50 is triggered
why would you waste a 2 year window except for panic?
>Why should a trader wait until something happens, they know will happen?
Selling in advance is one thing
selling two years in advance is madness
>>79630302
The working class should have it better than ever when we get new trade deals and more investment from big companies meaning more buliding work and stuff
>>79630407
Hell fucking yes phone the Chinese as well lets bring them to table
>>79630197
>The pound dropped because people panicked in te stock market when Brexits result came through the polls but don't worry.
But stocks went up, it is just that the Pound dropped!
>>79630302
>but I also think it'll overall benefit the British working-class, which is more important.
On what basis do you assume reduced trade will benefit the working class?
I am not bantering, I just would like to know the reasoning. As you know, all economic analysts forecasting a recession later this year lasting until next year as a result of the vote.
>>79630489
>The process of leaving the EU is around two years after article 50 is triggered
Says who? Leadsom says she wants a quick withdrawal as soon as next year. And why should analysts and markets not factor in mid term prospects, if they always do it for every single stock and bond and derivative they are trading in?
>>79630574
Kekis maximus
But seriously I'd be wary of the Chinese though they have plans to take over everything through economic means and buying everything out and then they'l have us all by the balls. Then they'll screw us over ruin our economy and that'l be their que to invade with their huge army and bring in WW3. maby just trade with Putin
>>79630495
>more investment from big companies
Why would there be more investment from big companies? There must be a benefit of investing in the UK from the Brexit for more investments, right?
Why did building companies stock drop by 30% as a result of the vote? Aren´t there working class jobs associated with building houses?
>>79630647
I stand corrected on that point but either way the UK will be fine leaving.
>>79628625
I read "Chaos" as "Chads"
>>79628926
34% of youth voted, 12% of which voted to Leave. If 100% had voted its reasonable to say 30-35% would vote leave which is considerable given 50% would vote leave and the rest would be undecided going from the referendum.
35% of the young, 60% of the middle aged (most don't want another referendum) and 70% of the old is too great a mandate to ignore. Brexit is happening.
>>79629365
Mark Carney is literally keeping it together at this point. We are relying on his assets...
>>79629704
>he doesn't understand currency fluxation in the face of investor confidence
>he hasn't taken a look at the future indexes
why even bother explaining, when you won't understand what we're talking about?
>>79631259
>We are relying on his assets...
I do not think his junk has anything to do with it. Canadian balls are small in general.
>>79628625
"Chaos"
"Job Confusion"
"Economic Uncertainty"
>Not all the same thing
"Trade issues"
>Muh trade deals don't exist for countries
Are they even trying?
>>79631262
>why even bother explaining, when you won't understand what we're talking about?
Well, you may not believe it, but I hold an economics degree. I would love for you to go into detail of why the market is irrational trading down the pound and that actually this is a very positive sign for the economic outlook.
It would be great if you could provide some precedents for such a situation.
The Pound will become more worthless and importing capital will become extremely expensive for British companies, foreign investors won't be interested in just the tiny UK market so they will have to make a trade deal with the EU where they will have to abide by all their regulations but with no input on them
>>79631508
>to make a trade deal with the EU where they will have to abide by all their regulations but with no input on them
But do you think this is realistic? Neither May nor Leadsom could stay in power if they made such a deal.
Leadsom would just pull out of the EU without a trade deal and then see how to cope.
>>79630574
Trade with Russia, carry on trading with China, cut all links with Saudi Arabia and Israel, trade with Syria and Iran.
>>79629611
10 times. Not 100 times.
>>79631699
Free trade with Canada and the US unbound by shitty EU regulation.
I've got no problem with free trade between developed nation states.
>>79631508
None of this shit will matters when the Muslims take over.
>>79631621
Well say goodbye to international investments who actually want access to large markets to actually generate profit and also importing capital will become more expensive with a devaluated pound
>>79631508
>canadian "business" professional
>>79631847
>10 times. Not 100 times.
120 billion in services exports to the EU by the UK.
2 billion in services exports to China by the UK, most of it transportation and vacation "services".
Ok, well 50 times then.
Can you increase the number of Brits going to China by 50 times?
Rememer when Obummer said "back of the queue", then immediately backtracked?
Any country that currently trades with the UK will be desperate as fuck to make new deals, as to not hurt their own export market.
Literally common sense
>>79630890
>Says who?
this board isn't made to spoonfeed you
Leadsom says she wants to trigger article 50 next year
>And why should analysts and markets not factor in mid term prospects
If something is not going to be impacted negatively for 2 years why would you drop it immediately?
>>79631482
>I hold an econ degree
>I need you to explain the upside of a fluctuation
unbelievable. who goes on the internet and lies?
>>79628625
Friendly reminder that 100,000 German jobs in the automotive industry rely on trade with the UK. You need us a hell of a lot more than we need you.
>>79628625
The "only" way for UK to survive would be to became part (sort of Puerto Rico), of The US
>>79632282
>Leadsom says she wants to trigger article 50 next year
And with next year you mean this September...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/685722/Andrea-Leadsom-Prime-minister-Conservative-leader-Andrew-Marr-show
>>79632282
>If something is not going to be impacted negatively for 2 years why would you drop it immediately?
You don´t know how markets work, right? You do not know how investment decisions work and economic effects and why there will be a recession later this year and in 2017, right?
>>79632587
>Friendly reminder that 100,000 German jobs in the automotive industry rely on trade with the UK.
And under WTO rules, those jobs are unaffected by the UK leaving the EU, even if there is no trade deal.
Meanwhile, BMW is thinking of shifting part or all of the Mini production to Europe.
>>79628625
The reality is there's one fucking shark and the man in on a sealiner.
>>79630197
The pound dropped because it was overvalued. Brexit made investors flinch enough for it to happen quickly, it was going to happen either way though.
It isn't some weird coincidence that Deutsch bank predicted exactly where the pound would end back in Dec.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/12065157/Pound-is-most-overvalued-currency-in-the-world-analysts-claim.html
>>79633306
the plot thinkens not surprised
>>79631482
So did the British have anything to do with the holy Roman empire? Because it seems like every other time you try to put a Reich together the British have fucked it up.
>>79628625
They have to wait until the actual exit, first. After that the margins won't be mired in doubt as to what path the idiot politicians end up taking.
Once the trade agreements are made, the margins are measurable and it's time to set up shop and make some money... and I suppose as a side benefit, create some jobs.
>>79628625
Economic uncertainty is a small price to pay for a future of democratic freedom, sovereignty and self governance
Anyone who "worries about the future" of the UK is a fucking pussy who wouldn't know real troubles if they dropped a cluster bomb on their comfy lifestyle
Our men died in the trenches to avoid the sort of bullshit the EU is trying to pull
Damn right I'm mad
>>79629611
>He thinks UK-China trade hasn't been hindered by being in the EU.
Now that we have a proper exchange rate, and not bogged down by the most bullshit EU regulations, our China trade can go through the fucking roof. We are also the go-between for China and the US with regards to the chem/pharma industry (can't go into details or I'd be breaking the law) as well as others that I don't know about. The potential for quadrupling our China exports -could- be put into place by the end of next year if we could get an early exit from the EU.
The true reality is that nobody on this board, or anyone in the general public should know about just how good Brexit -can- be if not fucked up by the politicians. Because you don't deserve to know. The money, the economic golden age is for the wealthy to enjoy; not you.
So my advice is that if you have a manufacturing business idea right now, put the fucker into action as soon as the trade agreements are settled. But not before.
>>79628625
If you take political comics that use a fuckton of labels instead of metaphor seriously, you've already been cucked.
When has "there will be problems!!!" ever been a fucking argument for anything.
Yeah no shit retard.
Should I just not take my exams because revision is somewhat tedious?
Guess what, i'm not looking at the short-term effects.
>>79634209
>>He thinks UK-China trade hasn't been hindered by being in the EU.
Germany exports 5 times as much to China as the UK....and more than the US.
How come?
>>79628625
>Chads
I don't see what we've got to fear from Chads. Brexit just means that our own Chads will get priority over Chads from Eastern Europe.
>>79633025
>And under WTO rules, those jobs are unaffected by the UK leaving the EU, even if there is no trade deal.
