Do Americans protest? Why do we never hear about any strike, manifestation from America?
>>79553070
What are you talking about? College kids here protest shit every single day. If they don't have anything to protest, they FIND something to protest.
>>79553266
I'm not talking about a hadfull of cringy college kids asking for safe spaces. I mean actual labour movements.
>>79553070
they have other union laws than we here in europe. americans cant just strike when they are unhappy with their working conditions or they might risk getting fired. it a bit different over there in the new world.
>>79553926
>americans cant just strike when they are unhappy
But i have never heard of a strike in USA.
>>79553471
That was huge in the early 20th century America when there was systematic and truly horrific mistreatment of the working class. These days, with the freedom of movement that exists, the free market tends to iron those things out and for the most part (with some governmental oversight). People are skeptical of the motives of unions (which tend to look out for their own continued existence rather than the people they are supposed to represent) and with some small regional exceptions, strikes tend to be seen unfavorably because they're usually just protesting for a raise or because they lost a benefit.
>>79554358
when ever they do, it's small scale and they ask for things like higher minimum wage. It's not broadcasted much because not enough people complain, and police make sure that there is no fighting
BECAUSE WE AREN'T A BUNCH OF COMMIE FAGGOT EUROPEANS
>>79553471
>Do Americans protest? Why do we never hear about any strike, manifestation from America?
General US economy isn't as shit as the Southern European economy, at the very least not yet.
Non-Black Americans still making their 70k-90k USD a year, cheap petrol prices, cheap goods and cheap food. Life is still pretty much good here granted you're not a lazy bum.
>>79553070
There are strikes in the US, but they are always on a local level. The only "large" unions represent a variety of jobs with a variety of contracts.
Examples of recent strikes include the Chicago teacher's strike in 2012 and the California Longshoreman's Union strike in 2014-2015. There were also strikes against Boeing and Verizon in recent years.
Strikes are generally ineffective in the US unless the employees have a very strong contract with government or they occur in a state highly hostile to industry. The reason is that for most jobs there are thousands of people eager to take your place if you stop working.
The Longshoreman's Union strike is an example only made possible by government hostility to industry. Only a couple hundred people work at the location of the strike. Whenever there is a single job to fill, they receive upward of ten thousand applicants. The job is considered high paying with excellent benefits. In a free market, no sane person would strike under such circumstances. Only a handful of states are particularly hostile to industry to make it possible.
>>79554699
You guys aren't that much better then us
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=69
>>79554556
>>79554527
Why is that?
>>79555133
People can fire workers for striking?
>>79555450
Can people fire workers for refusing to come to work? Yes, yes they can.
>>79553070
No, there are no real protest any more, only "peaceful protests"/riots we have are niggers who like to play victim, muh black life mutter movemet
>>79555323
people don't like unions because
1. They take part of your check
2. They don't do much
3. In some industries, you're forced to join them
4. They've been mafia fronts
5. They don't work well with small businesses
>>79555450
It depends on the state. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law#U.S._states_with_right-to-work_laws
In any state with right-to-work laws, all employees can be terminated without cause unless they have a contract specifically stating otherwise. If employees unionize, the company has no obligation to negotiate with them or retain them.
>>79555450
Of course. If they won't work why should they stay on the payroll?
>>79555655
Are you dor real? You can get fired for stricking?
>>79555768
Union only real tool is stricking. If people can get fired for stricking in USA (seriously?) then a union is worthless
>>79555450
yes they can be fired for striking, but the union they are apart of is SUPPOSED to pay the fired person until he finds work again.
But the union can "run out of money" and not pay the worker.
>>79553070
Americans burned down Baltimore after police brutally murdered a suspect in their care.
>>79555859
So you guys are literally slaves to corporates?
>>79556067
That is not a protest. That is a riot. Protests and manifestations are peacefull normally
>>79555323
A difference of 4 points is a lot considering America is a lot less socialized and considering we also have a lot of low IQ minorities, basically means someones fucking up big time in your country when America with less social safety net is beating your country built around socialized structures.
This isn't news to us seeing how many Americans view socialism in a very negative light, but it might be to you.
>>79556033
See >>79555814
It varies by state. Striking is just another name for "not working". If someone decides not to work, I have a "right to work" in place of them for whatever wages and conditions the business is offering if I so choose. States with "right to work" laws recognize this fact.
>>79554699
Oh yeah 70k-90k if its your 20th+ year at that company. most corporations give a 1% raise per year.
>>79556179
>So you guys are literally slaves to corporates?
No. We are free to negotiate our working conditions with all prospective employers. I would argue the contrary, that both corporations and workers are slaves to unions, often government managed, in many other countries.
>>79555323
Strikes are bad for everyone, they're bad for the people striking, they're bad for the customers, they're just bad for the employers, they're even bad for people completely uninvolved. They're just plain bad for the economy. The point of strikes is that sometimes great change requires great sacrifices, but rarely are great changes needed these days. And when people got to striking simply as a negotiating tool to hold the nation hostage just to get whatever the striker wanted, it was time to break up the culture of striking which had built up.
>>79553471
Happens all the time Portubro. Usually it's peaceful and uneventful. People will bring their kids and dogs, like a glorified picnic. That's probably why you never hear about it.
Americans definitely protest. Remember the Million Man March?
Here's one labor specific example I just picked out of the air. Unions in particular got protest game:
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2016/04/16/teamsters-protest-broken-pension-promises-us-capitol/82092700/
There was a big Boeing strike a few years ago too that was particularly noteworthy. Note, I didn't mention the writers' strike. Not noteworthy there, just Jewdom.
>>79553070
>>79556209
>A difference of 4 points is a lot considering America
It's not when america has 2 times my country GDP per capita
>>79556392
>We are free to negotiate our working conditions with all prospective employers.
We are too here in Portuagl. But employemnt "negotiations" are not made on equal footing. Low income workers can't choose.
>>>79556408
>Strikes are bad for everyone
That is why they are a drastic measure.
>>79556413
>Remember the Million Man March?
I wasn't even born then
Last year there was a strike for a shipping company a vendor of ours deals with. Held up our orders for a hot minute.
Nothing major, stuff like that isn't really news worthy.
>>79553070
>>79553471
>>79553606
>>79553782
America is really big and has more than just one big major city
for examples everything past the Mississippi river could drop off into the ocean and no one here in Alabama would notice.
Its part of the reason the whole illegal immigrant thing has gone so far
25 of the states probably have never seen an illegal.
>>79556342
Median household income of White-Americans is around -/+ 60k a year, median household income of Asian-Americans is around 70k a year.
If you want to know how much your demography on average makes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
>>79556783
But i am talking about huge labour movements. We see them all over Europe, but then in USA the closest we have are niggers with black lives matter
>>79556759
>I wasn't even born then
Just to clear this up mods, i'm 19 and i am an adult in my country
>>79556759
>That is why they are a drastic measure.
There you have it. That's why we don't strike. Nothing is drastic here. Not even African Americans have much grounds for complaining economically (they already have affirmative action, a grossly unconstitutional benefit directed specifically for them, what else COULD we give them).
>>79556815
>America is really big and has more than just one big major city
So?
>>79556759
>It's not when america has 2 times my country GDP per capita
To avoid being in poverty in the USA, follow these simple steps
1. Avoid having a child before marrage
2. Have a full time job
3. Have a high school education
>We are too here in Portuagl. But employemnt "negotiations" are not made on equal footing. Low income workers can't choose.
Don't like the final offer? Make your own company. You have the best chances of success in America.
>>79556759
"Low income" workers have a lot of choices in the US, including jobs which cease to be "low income" as they gain experience.
They can go into the service industry, which has tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of employers offering different conditions across the US. As they gain experience, they can promote into lower management and pursue a university degree to promote further.
They can go into trade skills, such as plumbing, electrical repairs, air conditioning repair and so on. Again, hundreds of thousands of employers for trade skills. As they gain experience, they can earn more by working more efficiently or even start their own small business.
They can go into manual labor and, with sufficient experience, try to gain employment with their city or state as an inspector. My uncle was a lifelong carpenter and recently did this.
There are myriad opportunities for someone who is low skilled or unskilled in the US if they simply apply themselves and look for opportunities. No one is "trapped" in "low income" except perhaps convicted felons.
biggest protests I can remember were against the Iraq war.
they didn't work.
>>79557088
>There you have it. That's why we don't strike. Nothing is drastic here.
wat? You know you guys are poorer then some European countries?
>>79557169
>To avoid being in poverty in the USA, follow these simple steps
They can apply to even Lesotho, but it doesn't change that 15% of USA is below poverty line
>Don't like the final offer? Make your own company.
>Yes, because i have 200.000 dollars stored to make initial investments, connection in the market, know how.
>>79557132
So if things are bad in Detroit, you can just move to Cincinnati.
>>79557169
Poor people can't just make a fucking company lmao. You need money to make money my man.
>>79557356
They are below poverty line because they are lazy and our wetware state makes sure that they don't starve
>Don't like the final offer? Make your own company.
>Yes, because i have 200.000 dollars stored to make initial investments, connection in the market, know how
Get a small business loan.
>>79557238
>"Low income" workers have a lot of choices in the US, including jobs which cease to be "low income" as they gain experience.
Then how do you explain that 15% of USA people live below poverty rate?
>>79557389
So in the EU. But yes, i almost forgot you americans have no love for your home.
>>79553070
Your never going to see major protests in america from the 1960's onward. Things are just to nice here.
Portugal poster your questions has been answered. You're replies don't pertain to your original questions. You asked why but now you're only dismissing the why.
>>79557356
>wat? You know you guys are poorer then some European countries?
Yeah, I don't know what group of cross-wired statistics you hacked up to get it to tell you that, but the American economy is larger than the European Union's economy combined and spread out over less people. Maybe one of those tiny countries with fucked up censuses ranks better per-capital, but if they have strikes there then those strikes are pretty much performance art.
>>79557506
>They are below poverty line because they are lazy
Any source for this?
>and our wetware state makes sure that they don't starve
Good for you. Hungry people are nasty bro.
>>79557506
>Get a small business loan.
And any bank will give a highschool dropout a bussiness loan. And everyone can create a bussiness plan. Don't bother replying to me anymore.
>>79557667
>You're
Your*
>>79557524
The welfare cliff
>>79553782
>movimento alternativa socialista
Nojo.
>>79556759
>It's not when america has 2 times my country GDP per capita
If anything that's a condemnation of the current system in Portugal. Socialized systems and yet still more poverty than the US with half the GDP per capita.
>>79557688
1. Avoid having a child before marriage
2. Have a full time job
3. Have a high school education
Also yea, banks will loan you what you need if your not a total dumbass
>>79557524
The EU isn't America, as Britain has shown us. No matter where you go in America, you're still in America. Part of loving America is loving the ability to go anywhere in this huge ass country that we want whenever we want. I wouldn't expect little pushed-against-a-cliff Portugal to understand.
>>79557667
You are saying that people don't preotest in USA becasue they are living too good, wich i demonstrated is false.
>>79557677
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
> is larger than the European Union's economy combined
so?
>one of those tiny countries with fucked up censuses ranks better per-capital, but if they have strikes there then those strikes are pretty much performance art.
They aren't, bro
>>79553070
Happens all the time. Recently, airline and postal employees. It's just that it doesn't take them long to realize how amazing the standard of living is here and that they need money to keep all their useless shit like 3 SUVs and 5 televisions, so they just shut up and go back to work eventually.
As far as politically, there is a severe lack of charismatic and intelligent leadership and people won't rally unless there's a leader. Otherwise you just end up with random rioters running around like chickens with their heads cut off like you've seen in French, British, and Greek cities.
>>79557524
>Then how do you explain that 15% of USA people live below poverty rate?
There are people in every society who choose not to pursue opportunity. In the US, you can decide to live a mediocre life off of welfare and part time, low income jobs.
We don't force people to work or work full time if they don't want to. If you want to be homeless or just collect food stamps for you and your 12 kids with 12 different unknown men, you're allowed to do that.
>>79555133
He said "non-black"
>>79557871
Lembrei me daquela manifestação e pesquisei. Nem sequer olhei para as imagens
>>79558008
>You are saying that people
No I'm not. You just replied to my first post in the thread. This post >>79555133 has all the answers you needed. Instead of acknowledging the answers you just asked some other irrelevant question.
>>79558099
>There are people in every society who choose not to pursue opportunity.
>People choose to be poor
Americans actually believe this shit?
>>79558099
>There are people in every society who choose not to pursue opportunity. In the US, you can decide to live a mediocre life off of welfare and part time, low income jobs.
>We don't force people to work or work full time if they don't want to. If you want to be homeless or just collect food stamps for you and your 12 kids with 12 different unknown men, you're allowed to do that.
In a leftist's mind having people sow their own seeds is almost a crime, the state confiscating wealth from the producers of society and giving it to those whom don't deserve it to pad some idiotic 'equality index' stat, so they can feel good about themselves, is considered a virtue.
>>79558642
people choose to be lazy
>>79558626
I actually meant to quote this post >>79554527 but in both of your replies you gave they just dodge the answers.
>>79558626
And there i found out that people can get fired for stricking in USA, wich already gave me all the answers i needed
>>79558680
>In a leftist's mind having people sow their own seeds is almost a crime, the state confiscating wealth from the producers of society and giving it to those whom don't deserve it to pad some idiotic 'equality index' stat, so they can feel good about themselves, is considered a virtue.
Source for this idiotic rant??
>>79558642
It's true. It's basically the entire reason the democrat part exists. Their mantra is "Keep our voters poor - not so poor that they die off or can't house themselves, but certainly not successful enough to where they don't need us anymore."
Do you think when a single mom has 13 kids that she actually thought her life would be a success afterwards???
>>79553070
Because, my Stalinist apologist friend, protests are fake. They were thought uo by late Victirian English lords at Oxbridge, same cgaps who came up with Marxusm, as a way of controlling the working classes by channelling all that brainless rage away. Look at the huge protests in Mexico after the AMLO election. Look at the weekly protests in Paris.
>>79558820
>source
Common sense: What's mine is mine and whats yours is yours.
>>79558642
In the US, it's truth. The only poor people not choosing to be poor are the genuinely disabled, whom receive government benefits. You could technically argue that convicted felons aren't choosing to be poor when their employment options are severely limited, but they chose to become convicted felons and limited opportunities do still exist for them.
I can't speak for Portugal as I've never lived there, but come to the US some time. See how people work and what opportunities exist. The entire third world wants to come to the US for good reason.
>>79553471
Finding waldo in a pile of candy canes is easier than trying to find a white person in a Portuguese protest
>>79554691
>>79558944
source?
>Do you think when a single mom has 13 kids that she actually thought her life would be a success afterwards???
No, but i want that those 13 kids have a change to succed at life.
>>79559047
Common sense is always wrong, a wise man once said to me
>>79559134
That is arabs in marseilles protesting for palestine, you fucking retard
>>79558820
you just did the exact same thing to me. you're not actually looking for answers in this thread. you're only trying to ruffle some feathers and throw a few shots at america.
>>79559336
If people can get fired for stricking, they won't strike, genious. I honestly didnt knew this. I already have my answers.
>>79559312
>No, but i want that those 13 kids have a change to succed at life.
That's why they receive free K-12 education, receive government assistance for universities as a result of being low-income, and their mom receives money every month from the government to feed them.
They won't live a comfortable life in a 6 bedroom mansion, but they'll receive from government what is necessary to have a chance at becoming successful. The rest is up to them.
(Some states, especially those ran by Democrats, trap low-income students in bad schools at the behest of teacher's unions and should not be taken as an example.)
>>79559312
>Common sense is always wrong, a wise man once said to me.
Doesn't sound like a very wise man.
>>79553070
people would rather complain online
>>79553070
I'd say people have been disabled. They're unable to protest, because life is good for many. It's true. No matter how much you complain, when you compare the US with any country, this right here is the closest you can get to heaven.
Because Americans, in spite of calling everyone a cuck, happen to be the most docile, obedient, "good goys" in the world. They view themselves as valuable as dirt, because they have this strange belief that someday, they will be rich and will be allowed to mistreat people in the same way they're being mistreated now (Americans are really upset for some strange reason (8=>) and they want to take it out on each other)
This comes from a history of being terrified of communism, never realizing that mass corporatism is just as bad as communism in the long term. This fear of communism, and the inability to look for moderate solutions has led them to other problems (obesity, poor education, gun violence, etc.)
It's sad really, because Americans have great, and beautiful land of forests, dunes,canyons, rivers, and mountains, yet they themselves are complete fucking idiots. And this stupidity ends up turning them into even bigger cowards, thus forming the "nu-American male" of today: scared, weak, dumb, fat, and useless.
If only their ancestors could see what a sad lot they've become...
>>79553070
Because our basics are generally covered. No significant portion of the population is starving or dying from exposure and we appear to have some degree of participation in the direction of our government. However there has always been an undercurrent of "this is the end of it all this time" that people sometimes take too seriously
>>79559336
Yeah this guy's a fucking moron. Good troll though to get so many people giving him so many well thought out answers, I'll give him that.
>>79559539
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/14/news/companies/mcdonalds-times-square-protest-15/
Fucking dipshit.
>>79559614
>receive government assistance for universities
What kind of asistance?
> but they'll receive from government what is necessary to have a chance at becoming successful.
Some say education is a very necessary thing to become sucessfull.
>>79559691
Your poverty rate is higher then many european countries. It's almost equivalent then my country (3% difference).
>>79559793
>happen to be the most docile, obedient, "good goys" in the world.
We know this
>>79559799
>Because our basics are generally covered.
Except healthcare and education.
>No significant portion of the population is starving or dying from exposure
>literally the richest country that ever existed in this world
>they are happy they are not starving
>>79559977
>http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/14/news/companies/mcdonalds-times-square-protest-15/
>The crowd of about 300 protesters
Are you serious? Are you intentionally mocking yourself?
>>79560006
What? Education up to high school is paid by the government, and ERs are legally oblgigated to treat you until your stable.
>>79560006
>What kind of asistance?
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/pell
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/FSEOG
https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/teach
And more.
Also http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/state.htm
Individual states also offer grants for low-income students, in addition to the federal grants.
>>79559819
I was in a thread with this guy a few days ago, he was insisting that communism never tried to break up the family as an institution and the purges weren't so bad. He's a "nationalist" in the same sense that Wierd Al Yankovic is an authority on music.
>>79560206
And college education? High school is worthless nowadays.
>ERs are legally oblgigated to treat you until your stable.
kek. The bill come in anyways?
>>79560006
>Some say education is a very necessary thing to become sucessfull.
As I said, all residents of the US receive free K-12 education. Low-income residents receive government assistance for university if they choose to attend.
>>79560289
>>79560365
I read somehwere that full ride scholarships are available to 1 or 2% of american college students.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-rare-are-full-ride-scholarships/
>>79560324
>And college education? High school is worthless nowadays.
In the US, obtaining college degree right after high school serves to unlock more employment opportunities, but is not necessary for becoming successful. See >>79557238
There are hundreds of thousands of employers who do not require college degrees. Trade skills are the best opportunity for those who never plan to get one. The service industry offers those without one a chance to get experience and promote to a certain level before they are expected to seek a university education as a part-time student while continuing their career if they want more promotions.
The statement that high school is "worthless" is simply false.
>>79559793
>Coulored
Hey guys, I think we got ourselves a frenchy.
>>79560546
You're confusing scholarships with grants. A scholarship is available to anyone who meets certain academic criteria and can be offered by government or private organizations. A grant is available to anyone below a certain income level or with certain disabilities. Grants of varying sizes are available to a large portion of Americans.
>>79553070
It's not really news to the rest of the world. Strikes and union protests do happen its just that there is never violence to make it to international news i guess. A strike from Verizon employees ended a few weeks ago.
We don't have as many socialist retards as portugal
>>79561169
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Labor/Strikes
say again?
>>79553070
People revolt when they're poor and hungry. You have to be a retard to go hungry in the US. Mainly niggers and liberals protest in the US because they're the failures of society that have nothing else going for them.
Unions protest because apparently their lazy asses don't make enough as-is, even though there are hundreds equally qualified willing to take the job. Some are ok but Longshoreman's is the definition of a crooked union.
>live in area with 4% unemployment
>make comfortable salary by making myself valuable.
>own 1700sqft house on 4 acres.
>Eat whatever I want, buy pretty much whatever I want.
Why would I need to protest?
>>79561333
>People revolt when they're poor and hungry.
I'm not talking about revolts. I'mt talking about labour manifestations, strikes, protests
>live in area with 4% unemployment
>make comfortable salary by making myself valuable.
>own 1700sqft house on 4 acres.
>Eat whatever I want, buy pretty much whatever I want.
>Why would I need to protest?
This pretty much says everything about americans. People without ambition.
>>79561320
>labor strikes necessarily imply they're socialists
why am i responding to a 19 year old yuropoor in the first place?
>>79561543
Ambition for what, a Parisian's idea of traffic?
>>79561858
You were the one that equated labour movement/strikes with socialism.
>>79561922
For a better country
>>79553471
>that pic
>occurring anywhere in the western world
how fucking embarrassing
>>79561543
>This pretty much says everything about americans. People without ambition.
Why go to a crowded area with a bunch of idiots when life is good.
Today I went floating down a river drinking beers, tomorrow going golfing and probably shooting and Monday celebrate freedom with an American BBQ of fine steaks from a cow I bought.
Europoors will never experience Montana life, in fact don't come here and shit it up.
nah, too much bread and circus here to keep the zombies preoccupied while the population is replaced by shitskins
>>79561543
lol ambition? we already have everything we want.
i can get 4 burgers for $5
it's an employers market, sellers market right now, but that's just part of the cycle.
A protest in itself does nothing but slow productivity in america. We're busy at our jobs making money, not complaining about not having more.
