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Remember to be considerate about PTSD vets this 4th, faggots
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Remember to be considerate about PTSD vets this 4th, faggots
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nigger stealing some vets sign
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>>79525403
He fought for your rights, beta faggot
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Did PTSD exist in ancient times(middle age warfare, etc.) or is a modern illness?
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FFFUUUUCCCCKKKKKK YYYYYOOOOOUUUUUUU
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>>79525544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDNyU1TQUXg

Kind of, but not really
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>>79525309
>welfare queens can't handle black cats
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>>79525403
>>79525573

>vet with ptsd
>not only he chose to serve his life for you guys, but he also seen something so horrible that triggered ptsd in him

Disgusting
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>>79525486
For rights? What rights? To kill civilians in a country where the residents probably don't even know where muhrica is on the map? To destabilize countries half across the world just so the Israel can feel safe? Get the fuck out.
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>>79525403
>implying a large percent of your army is black
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I've met a vet who had this issue. They aren't asking much, just not to set off fireworks in their neighborhood.
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>>79525309
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Good, fireworks are so anti-social. They scare cats and other animals, distress combat veterans and can cause damage to property. Fucking hate them. Entertainment for niggers.
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>>79525544
The Spartans treated combat fatigue with hemp tea.
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>>79525958
Stop triggering my PTSD with your bullet shaped earplugs you cunt
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>>79525929
>they're not asking much
>just restrict your own behavior for them
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRItYDKSqpQ
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OIF vet , here. I dont get bothered by loud noises. I was a tanker btw
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>muh weak mind


Sac up bitches, its the 4th of JewLie
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>>79525544
Kinda. While modern warfare is a bit less gory its also a lot worse. It louder, its scarier, its on a much bigger scale. Most of the casualties come from the fighting not from other problems (excluding ww1).
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>>79525963
All the better that we're setting them off to celebrate our nation's divorce from your snooty ass.
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>>79525309
i jus hope someone in your family suicide becuase if he is a veteran.

killers and rapist will always rise kilers and rapist.
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>>79525544

War got a lot more brutal in modern times. I'm sure there were cases of it in the ancient world, but not nearly as much as now.
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>>79525309
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>>79525309
He needs a healthy dose of these.
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So how come vets didn't have firework ptsd before 2010~ ?
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>>79526131
no war is glory.

you have been well endocrinated by holliwood and are a stupid shit.
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>>79526143
I guess as a mexican you have lots of experience of killers and rapists in your shitty 3rd world country.
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>>79525770
WOW SERVE FOR ME REALLY FOR ME?

HE DID NOTHING FOR ME YOU COLOSSAL NUMBSKULL

NOW I AND EVERY OTHER TAX PAYER HAS TO PAY FOR HIS ASS

HE DIDNT DEFEND ME

INFACT HE DID A SHIT JOB BECAUSE MUSLIMS AND SPICS ARE SPREADING LIKE CANCER EVERYWHERE

INB4 edge. Grow up
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>>79526228
Mexican intellectuals, everybody.
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>>79525486
95% chance he was just a truck driver or a cook. Idc about those fags. If he ain't infantry, cav, or aviation, he ain't shit.
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>>79526075
>not setting fireworks off next to their house on one day of the entire year
>asking a lot
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>>79525544
100% fake
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>>79525711
Exactly this
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>>79525309

PTSD doesn't exist. :^)
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>>79525309
>waah it hurts my ears and feelings
Fucking pussies fucking mericuck nigger solider
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>>79525309

Combat vet with PTSD here. I fucking HATE fireworks but would never try and ruin other people's fun on the fourth.
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>>79526218
They did.
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>>79526228

I knew a simple soldier boy
Who grinned at life in empty joy,
Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
And whistled early with the lark.

In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
He put a bullet through his brain.
No one spoke of him again.

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
Sneak home and pray you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
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>>79526340
They could always get earplugs or something. It's pretty selfish of them to ruin everyone else's Independence day because the sound of fireworks unnerves them.
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>>79526434
they voted for reagan too

fucking airheads
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>>79526195
Are you kidding? Hand to hand combat is very uncommon on modern times, compared to the sword fighting of olden days.
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>>79526340
>live off government like a leech.
>gives me the right to control you
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>>79525486
Yeah my right to shoot fireworks! As i set off explosion after explosion near his home he can be consoled by my chants of USA USA USA, after each explosion. Truly hes an american hero. Without him my fireworks privledge would not be checked.
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>>79525770
I've spent the past 9 years and uniform and will continue for at least another 11. Soldiers with PTSD kill themselves or drink themselves under the table every night, not hold up signs for feels. This is 100% factual. I have to sit in on don't kill yourself powerpoints on a regular basis.
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The problem is the faggots that do it july 2nd-3rd and july 5th-6th.
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>>79526575
They aren't asking towns and communities to cancel their fireworks displays, they're asking that people don't unexpectedly shoot off fireworks in their neighborhood.

It's one thing when you know a scheduled date and time for a display, another when it just surprises you and takes your mind back to Iraq.
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>>79525544
Soldiers before modern warfare got a good night's sleep, had breakfast, then lined up in a field with all his best mates. Do some fighting. Then head home.

Soldiers today spend months being tired as fuck and under constant threat of attack that they usually can't see.

Sleep deprivation and having to constantly be worried about attack for extended periods of time really affects the human brain in a negative way.
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He'd be better off if the sign said
>For your safety please refrain from using fireworks or I may mistakenly return fire
And then he should follow through. A few months of court mandated counseling and a new neighbor in exchange for no more fireworks around the fourth
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>>79526679
>I have to sit in on don't kill yourself powerpoints on a regular basis.
The problem with America. Tax dollars at work.
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>>79525309
Only pussies get flashbacks from fireworks

The real problem is if you go to the range and smell the cordite in the air. That is the fucking worst.
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>>79525309
I know a quiet place for you
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Buy some ear muff you fucking retard.

It's a few days a year.
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>tfw the 4th is the only time of year you can shoot your rifles in the backyard without getting the cops called
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>>79525544
Fucked up shit happened in the ancient world but more people died in general desu. If you got an arm chopped off you would just die from bloodloss you would not survive then feel like shit because the civs look at you wrong
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Claims like this are utter bullshit. I have no less than 3 combat veterans in my family, and not a single one has ever voiced a complaint about fireworks.
>inb4 "muh artillery"
Fireworks don't resemble artillery sounds in the least bit, come back when you've actually heard it.
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>>79526836
Not to mention every piece of garbage, every animal, every bump in the road in a third world shithole covered in bumpy roads and garbage could potentially mean your death.
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>>79527092
This is actually a fair point. Man up and live your life or 'die' (being a bitch afraid of fucking fireworks kids play with) army bitches
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>>79525309
They """defended my rights""" just to take them away when they don't like it?

Eat a dick.
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>>79528097
>What are noise violations
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>>79528236
Stupid
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>>79526197
a lot of the same ppl who called anyone apposed to the iraq war traitors, are also pro torture

you know the type
good christian conservatives
>>79525309
are you a good christian conservatives op?
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>>79526060
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>>79525963
>not loving shit that goes boom and sparkles
I can't believe we thought you savage niggers were worth culturally enriching at least the irish carried on genes for red haired bitches.
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>Live in Massachusetts
>Brother and Father are currently serving lifetime prison sentences for lighting off illegal fireworks
>Woke up everyday wishing I could escape this hellhole and move to a state that truly values freedom
>After years of toil and saving I finally get out of Mass
>Excited for my first true taste of freedom, have hundreds of dollars worth of fireworks
>See the nigger next door holding up some sign about PTSD
Fuck you, Jamal. We're blowing shit up on Monday.
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>>79528097
>...to just take them away when they dont like it
Alot of retards on today it seems
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>>79526306
BU BU MUH HEROES
MMUH MILITARY DISCOUNT
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>>79525403
>T.Beta Cuck
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>>79526306
>army doesn't need drivers or cooks
then how will the retards move long distances or eat?
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is this you op?
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>>79528534
Hahahahahah
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>>79528236
>What is being this fucking dense
>What is 4th of july

Kill your self retard.

>>79528638
>Literally doesn't explain a single thing, just shitposts.

into the trash it goes.

If vets are gonna bitch and cunt around about fireworks they can eat a dick. We have a right to fire off fireworks on this holiday.
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>>79525309
did you kill someones son or daughter op?
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>>79525963
>britcuck mad cause his government won't let him buy real fireworks
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>>79525309
BANG!!!
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>>79525309
What's on the 4th?
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>>79525309
>Dad is iraq combat vet
>last night some guys put fireworks on the side of the road on a dark country path
>Set them off when he drove by

He automatically thought IED and almost drove off the road.
Some people are dicks.
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>>79526641
Hand to hand does not equal brutal. Sure having to gut a man was pretty fucked up but its different than walking down a street and that street suddenly exploding and raining your dead buddies down on you. Man can get accustomed to seeing some pretty fucked up things, but explosions are not something we evolved with so those strike a different part of that fear center in our brain.
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>>79525698
>lindybeige
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remember this one op?
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>>79529404
Pretty funny
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>>79526679
If you feel the constant need to kill yourself, its time to reconsider wether what your are doing is morally acceptable.
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>>79529331
american brexit anniversary
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>>79526112
Least you weren't in artillery. They notice loud noises. Well, that's the only sounds they notice anymore.
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>>79529404
Daddy needs to lighten up.
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>implying I care what a high school failure on his last option before working for minimum wage thinks about my fireworks
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good times op good times
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>>79525309
I'm gonna throw firecrackers and nobody can stop me.
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>>79525309
you're a corporate fucking terrorist.
go fuck yourself
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>>79525963
Not to mention we fire them in celebration of not being British, god I love that you hate them
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>>79525309
idiots like you made the worst of the worst in society rich
did you smile when you killed some poor smuck?
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>>79525309
you gonna vote for trump op?
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>>79529404
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how does one live with themselves?
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>>79525544
Lifespans were like 40-50 years tops, also there wasn't anybody offering to pay you once you got back, it was back to work so your mind was occupied.
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>>79531098
White man is too empathetic.

He should just realize that statistically speaking he either killed a bite size terrorist or a would be 80 IQ rapefugee.
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>>79531203
>Lifespans were like 40-50 years tops,
Completely untrue unless you're speaking about the very ancient world.

Middle ages if you survived the first 10 years of life you could reasonably expect to live into your 60's-70's.

Children died at a very high rate and that's what skews the life expectancy.
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>>79529096
He served in Iraq. Killing sons and daughters are vet specialties.
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>>79525309
YeeHaaaa motherfucker
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>>79531203
This lifespan meme needs to die
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>>79526195
How the fuck is modern war less brutal than ancient war where we were skinning people alive and boiling them in oil? I mean shit, we give ISIS a hard time because they cut people heads off. If you went to a battlefield in 1099 you'd see a lot worse than heads being cut off.
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they got what they deserved, right op?
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>>79525309
Vets have guns at ready on 4th
Pls give reason
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>>79531732
Theyd be right at home in Iraq killing civilians.
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>>79529331
When 13 colonies told the biggest empire on the planet to go fuck themselves
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>>79525309
look at those little feet. >>79531715
she never had a chance at life because of yahoos like you

who's the barbarian op?
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>>79525544
There are records of a man getting ptsd from the battle of marathon, so yeah.
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>>79525309
>fought for our freedoms, gunfire sandnigs exploding
>Does 6 tours combined in Iraq/Afghanistan
>comes home, 4th of July in 3 day
>current year turned him into pussy, bangs scare him
>Puts sign in yard up ask to not use fireworks by him, because veteran
>Hacker 4chang finds out he had a desk job in Germany
>Us military BTFO
This shit is a joke my grandfather just died 4 months ago at 97
He did six tours in the Pacific in WW2, was at the battle of Iwo Jima
He never once in my 30ish years on earth cried about fireworks
Actually as based as he was he would buy them for us
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>>79525309
They're just welfare queens.
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>>79532836
>30 on 4chan

lmao
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your celebration of freedom offends this child killer
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>>79526266
This is gonna be a long summer
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>>79531310
This right here, this is the right way to think
They blow themselves up because they are so stupid
Soldiers feel bad for killing them...
Learn to be Apathetic
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>>79525486
he should have died for them.
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>>79528605
>Lifetime prison sentence for fireworks

You're gonna have to come up with a more convincing scenario boi
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>>79529096
I raped some girls on my way here from Mexico
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Respect the War Heros as they Fought for you neck bearded basement dwelling morlocks Okay Faggots
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>>79533702
fucking you you christians conservatives
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>American soldier fights for your freedom
>asks one tiny thing (don't set off fireworks like a retard on July 4th)
>HURR DURR IT'S MUH FREEDUMB

Amerifats are so fucking retard.
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>>79533829
and they charged 4 trillion dollars for it
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>>79533934
who asked you roach ?
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>>79529604
>>79530122
>>79531098
>>79531341
>>79531715
>>79532277

Collateral damage
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>>79533978
Its Muricas/Britbongs spoils of war is them oilfields
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>>79525309
>PTSD

thats cute organic.
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>>79534089
yeah
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>>79532021
we burnt the whitehouse down though faggot
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>>79525963
Oh wow, a cats going to have a bushy tail for an hour, the absolute horror.
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>>79531341
dirty lil sand nigger prob had a gun an shot his own family
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>>79533934
>Fights for freedom
>Invading and destabilizing countries that never bothered us
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>>79534089
the idiots shooting up civilians don't get no oilfield money
they get more tax burden like everyone else
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>>79534201
you sound as stupid as Canadians with this shit
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>>79534411
Thats the Murican industrial military complex working them tax $$s Lel
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>>79530122
A FUCKING LEAF

That article is fake, the official ISAF media account debunked it.

>inb4 it's a conspiracy!
There are only two fucking literally who websites that come up when you search for this. Kill yourself.
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>>79525544
Shell shock was pretty big in ww1. People couldn't even function when they left the battlefields. Now we just load them with meds and hope they don't kill themselves.
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>>79534514
But they got to travel an get great war stories an kill sand niggers
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>>79534586
was a joke ..lighten up ..Edgelord
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>>79531341
Not so fast Canada, your hands are dirtied too.
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>>79525309
>fighting israels wars like good nigger goyim
>scared of loud noises
did the jews discharge him for being a pussy? These faggots werent drafted, they volunteered. "ptsd" pronounced "pussy"
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>>79530307
Hope you a good thrower in Bulgerierer
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>>79534681
proof? there were stories like that every day
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>>79534848
Say that to my face not online hiding behind your little monitor in basement faggot, thank me for my service
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>>79534838
watered boarded much ..
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>>79534838
we have treaty obligations. we never went to iraq
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>>79525802
>Czech subhuman complaining about Guncontroll in the US
KEK
always funy that bitches from the other side of the world complain about the living condistions in other countrys
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>>79534201
I'm pulling out this fossil
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>>79534848
God damn I was in the SAS 1st Foot & Mouth Batt in Iraq .. come say that my face you nigger !!! Grr
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>>79534904
>sandniggers dying
Why should I care?
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>>79534904
an your point being ..shouldnt of been doing terrorist stuff
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>>79535000
real men do multiple tours. ptsd is fag-speak for being a pussy. grow a pair
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>>79528959
Blacks in the Army always seem to be cooks or truck drivers or in supply
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>>79535052
scaredy cats detected
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>>79525309
They knpws its partying rite?
Dont they remember their own parties....?
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>>79535308
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>>79525802
>>79535087
Don't worry Czechman I support you despite the rude nazi faggot
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>>79535087
says the cucked Kraut lel
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>>79525403
Fpbp
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>>79525309
>my buddies died for Israel and all I got was this stupid PTSD
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>>79535351
why should canadian taxpayers be on the hook for nato's corporate wars?
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>>79535101
Lel
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>>79526195
Käskopp going full-retard again. Nothing new to see here
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>>79527186
Nah the mortar tube fireworks are the only one that bother my dad, who was in Iraq. The sound of the firework leaving the tube bothers him a little.
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nato says it's new mission is to fight the terrorist they create
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desu fireworks are gay af.
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>>79529826
lol wut. Suicide in the U.S armed forces have only recently been at levels similar to the national rate adjusted for population. Not too long ago the overall rate of suicide across the services was actually significantly lower to the national rate on a proportional level.

Factors such as a depressed job market, increased fragmentation of social demographics, late manifestation of symptoms from traumatic brain injuries (including CTE) in returned/returning service personnel, decrease in overall troop morale and the widening communication gap between the DOD, chain of command and the average soldier/marine have all contributed increasing suicide rates.

The ones that tend to off themselves usually have no moral quandaries about anything they have done overseas.

The worst case I've heard was a senior sergeant attempting suicide, got resuscitated in the nick time by paramedics and then proceeded to damage the railings on their gurney enough to have a sharp enough edge to run down the street on both wrists.
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>>79528352
>ppl
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>>79535309
Agreed nothing of value was lost ..Muh
>>79528959
same in Britbong forces the niggers are good house boys an boot cleaners..
>>79535571
Just a nation of gutless cowards an degenerate pussies
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>>79531098
The unit he was a part of should have never been in country. They were a reserve unit that did not have the strict reinforcement cycles or consistent training to replace already overworked troops from the SOTG.
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>>79526138
> divorce from your snooty ass.
>roleplaying countries
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>>79536128
who dumped a big turd in the pool
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>>79536144
at least we aren't stupid enough to die for corporate profit
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>>79535087
What guncontrol, you fucking kraut? There are more handguns and automatics in Czech than in whole Germany. Perhaps you should check who has most liberal gun laws after the US.
>burgers destabilize country in desert
>Germany gets flooded with shitskins as a result
>mocks others for caring about global political scene
I can't wait for you weaklings to dissapear in next twenty years.
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>>79536250
they went for a shoot up an killed civvies move on dont worry about it soldier
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>>79535309
The more tours the higher the risk of TBI from IED blasts or even the breaching charges used in raids.
The degenerative effect of blasts to the brain has been linked with symptoms similar to that of veteran pro boxers and football linemen.
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>>79531715
>>79531341
>>79531098
>>79530122
>>79529604
post more feel-good stories, weed lead. the only good muslim is a dead muslim
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>>79536336
Corporate greed KEKED
Your country is run by niggers an Lib Faggots your PM is a queer faggot ,he told the worlds media he wanted gays to wrestle him from his job an take his seat an he would give in to them ..*shakes head in Disgust*
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>>79526679
>>79526952
>>79529826
After coming back, there's a mountain of non-battlefield related issues vets face. First usually being their girlfriend/wife got preggers by some asshole back home. Which leads to other bullshit and realizations. A spouse fucking around on you and the inability to cope is probably a large percentage of the suicides. If not, it's a definitely a contributing factor to many of their suicides, or even the impetus for it.

>>79536069
That man wanted to die with his entire being.
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>>79536453
They took enemy fire and one of the blokes had a fucking brainfreeze and chucked a fucking grenade into the compound without verifying targets.

Yet again, poor training. The chief prosecutor for the incident made a decent case and the wider troop sentiment was that they were going to get their shit pushed in. Higher saw to it nobody was shitcanned based on the nature of the incident and the 'lack of obligation of defence personnel to wellbeing of locals'. There was more consternation and uproar from the troops that have been in country than the public when that particular statement was uttered during the proceedings.
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>>79536353
I respect your nation m8 my last bird who was my cleaner here was a slav .. filthy slut 21 fitba .. Princess outwardly but a cum sponge you train your women well
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>>79536679
I didn't vote for him
I know he's a corporate puppet
but a least we don't have options like cameron or that ukip idiot
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>>79525544
Read somewhere a long time ago that a large factor about ptsd in modern times is that you can literally be in the middle of some shithole desert village worrying about stepping on a landmine with every step, to being at home within a day which is pretty fucking jarring. Back before airplanes and shit, the soldiers who survived would all spends weeks and many times months marching back home and helping eachother recover mentally and emotionally along the way
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>>79526228
Can't even read.
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>>79525544
>Stabbing and killing people is as gruesome as chemical and biological warfare,
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>>79536679
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>>79536905
>'lack of obligation of defence personnel to wellbeing of locals'
Lions led by donkeys ..still
wants you to be killers an then they get upset bc Casualties of war ..
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>>79525544
Yes but not as much. Modern warfare is more stressful and lethal. Back in the day you would just go into a pre determined battlefield with an enemy on the other side and beat the shit out of eachother. Now you don't know where the enemy is. You can get your head blown off at anytime. The sounds are louder etc. thanks to modern medicine you can also survive a lot more and take that shit with you. If you were stabbed back in the day you were done.
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>>79525309
the church in my town is hosting the local VFW for a 4th of july party
the idea is that the church hall is almost soundproof as is
add music and people talking you wouldn't hear an actual carbomb go off outside

I think it's a good idea because it gives those who don't like the booms a place to go without stopping the fun for those who love them

thoughts?
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>>79536950
I pity you ..
an I dont know if you lot heard but this Based Hero sacked Cameroon last week ok
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>>79525309
No thanks, I don't care.
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>>79537257
yeah I heard
how are they doing in the polls?
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>>79536965
Joking aside they were reported PTSD in the Crimean war or shell shock as was known then ..
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>>79525309
fucking retards need to be shamed. just asking for more attenton. ruining for the legit vets. fucking trash humans.
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>>79525309
maybe I highly underestimate what soldiers see in a war but as a part of my job I've seen some gruesome shit and I'm mentally just fine.

I'm going to go ahead and not assume I'm super resilient and not see that as an option, but I wonder if PTSD only occurs because the soldiers expect it to occur?

I hope I'm not talking nonsense
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>>79537139
LEL he a free man to rape pigs now
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>>79536965
Little bit. A more grounded hypothesis is that tempo of the soldier's deployment has extended drastically compared to previous conflicts even compared to vietnam. The fact you are constantly under threat when you are out of the wire and the subsequent need to maintain constant vigilance through sleep deprivation and poor conditions does a number on one's mental health over time.

There's also the possibility of your neurophysiology to be drastically altered from exposure to blasts. I'm not not talking about IEDs but the breaching charges used to enter buildings. In LE/mil circles, symptoms of delayed reaction time, mental fuzziness and vertigo are colloquially known as 'breacher's brain' and may actually be early onset symptoms of TBI or even worse, CTE.
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>>79537139
lock up your sows
pig fucker on the lose
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>>79525309
I'm glad these self-important faggots are getting replaced by drones.
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AHAHAHAH TRIGGERRED
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>>79537415
Most soldiers do not get ptsd and are just fine with the experience. It's only a quarter that do. It's a significant minority but it's still not the majority. And id say most get over it. It's different for soldiers because they might have seen some shit to people they care about and might get triggered and remember their friends dying or when they got their legs blown off. But for the most part, grunts are frat boys and play it up like they live for war
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>>79537642
makes sense, plus what the aussie said in this thread about the constant stress.

I guess it's me with the confirmation bias all along
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>>79526197
>calling folk against iraq war as traitors
kek I remember that era of 03-05, the time of jesus camp and mission accomplished and freedom fries.
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>>79529602
>ignoring a hypothesis that PTSD has come about through the longer and much more intense war of the modern world
Makes sense to me.
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>>79537204
a lot more simple agreed >>79537225
>>79537225
desu Totally agree
>>79537346
Gove has stepped up we Needs Corybyn as he is a True decent bloke an all the voters loves him
>>79537415
PTSD can come on like a light being turned on I know one guy locally who was a complete killer in the services an he was home fine and dandy ..
one night the night terrors came for him he near killed his devoted wife ..she jumped thru the bedroom window ,he is in a mental secure unit now wife divorced him tuck kids away ..
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I love how every modern "vet" has to tell every single person they know how they served in the Army or whatever like it's a badge of honor. WWI, WWII, hell even the Vietnam war there was a certain dignity and pride you could feel for someone who served. Afghanistan, Iraq?

Ha, you're a fucking moron for signing up. You went out and fought a fake, stupid, unnecessary war and got PTSD. I feel no sympathy for you. You chose to head off in a Humvee to shoot brown people so rich men could profit from oil and you fucked yourself up because of it, all while those same fuckers that decided you should fight a sovereign nation made bank. That's fucking sad, sad because you were stupid enough to be duped into something you thought was honorable without ever questioning what you were doing.

People take offense when blame is placed on soldiers, on the men and women on the front line but I say no, fuck that. You signed up, you chose to sign away your rights and you paid a price for it. Go fuck yourself, I have no time for you, it's a pity you didn't die over there instead of coming back here to tote your pathetic story to idiots who praise you for you "heroic" efforts.
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>>79537163
What are you on about?
If they wanted killers the Australian federal government would have negotiated more with the Chinese in order to get to exert their foreign policy via large enough third parties, many of which were already under the employ of the U.S federal government throughout the hot spots of OEF.

If they wanted killers, they would talked to Pakistan and not send their own troops into the fray.
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>>79537564
Lel
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>>79537529
In britbong they have opened a nut hossie for out patients an inpatients for ex squaddies ...
Talking therapies an CBT helps PTSD
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>>79537892
I don't mind people bragging, it is pretty cool. I brag with much dumber shit, like being able to hit flying birds with sticks.

I get what you're saying though. Isn't it always like that though?

What was the point of dying in WW1, for an example? Was there any?
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>>79525309
I only know one man with ptsd and fireworks don't set him off. His trigger is brown people now when I say brown I mean Mexican and Muslims.
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>>79537892
>oil
Last time I checked oil price manipulation was done by the saudis and saudi-allied stakeholders in OPEC.

Instead to ranting your edginess on here go, find someone from GROM and say that shit to their face.
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>>79525544

In the past, most wars would be fought when you marched out to battle to meet their army, or when you marched out to lay siege to their city. When you fell back from the front lines, you were mostly safe. When you marched up to the frontlines, you were prepared.

In modern warfare, you have to be alert 100% of the time because at any moment you can go from taking a leak to being blown up

WW1 was probably the only other war with such a tremendous psychological stress
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Iraq and Afghanistan vets aren't heros. The heros were the people of the previous generations who were drafted against their will, and had to fight or be jailed for years. I hate seeing New "veterans" who enlisted in 2013 walking around in their uniforms and acting like they actually just came back from D-day. Joining the military these days doesn't make you a hero. It's an easy way to get money without actually doing anything, and getting called a "hero".
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>>79537892

That's because in those older wars they got drafted and the survival rates were low.

For Iraq and Afghanistan you have to be objectively a stupid person to think they had anything to do with 9/11 and willingly sign up.
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>>79537892
Low quality B8
very poor taste ...
an a Pollack who talks of war .. <Top Tier Kek a nation of arseholes
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>>79525309
American veterans are faggots. If they'd fought harder, they might have won in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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They went and killed Muslims. This is a GOOD thing.
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>>79538520
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79526266
Ah Summer.
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>>79538012
stay off the Fosters M8 .. I was saying the Military are told to fight wars, then reprimanded for doing so .. is this clear enuff abo shagger ? Lel
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>>79537892
This isn't bait. He is correct.
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>>79538520

>airborne

Dick Winters wouldn't have stood for that shit.
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>>79538520
this

fucking faggots like this ruin the militairy

i mean liking Rainbow Dash? wtf it's 2016 get your shit together man
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>>79538175
When it's more related to physiological damage to the brain it takes a deluge of therapeutic treatments. CBT is only part of the picture.

Not PTSD afflicted soldiers have TBI but nearly all soldiers with TBI have some form of far more severe PTSD. (i.e. a chick who was part of clean up of severe incident such as the SASR blackhawk incident vs. a high speed low drag operator who's been blasting doors of hinges for 4 years straight. Similar signs and symptoms, drastically different degree of severity and personal outlook.)
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>>79538803
How many Muslims have you killed? None. Fucking nigger.
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>>79538652
Could literally reply to every post on /pol/ with this quote
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>>79539010
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79531526

>If you went to a battlefield in 1099 you'd see a lot worse than heads being cut off.

Depends really.
Chivalry and honour did exist in war before WW1 you know. At least in Europe.
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>>79539149
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79525544
Yes.
PTSD has always existed.

Why do you fucks not even use Google?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2923799/Did-ancient-warriors-suffer-PTSD-Texts-reveal-battles-3-000-years-ago-left-soldiers-traumatised-saw.html
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>>79539223
>Depends really!

'The risk of death and the witnessing of the death of fellow soldiers appears to have been a major source of psychological trauma,' the researchers from Queen Mary University of London and Anglia Ruskin University wrote.
'Moreover, the chance of death from injuries, which can nowadays be surgically treated, must have been much greater in those days.
'All these factors contributed to post traumatic or other psychiatric stress disorders resulting from the experience on the ancient battlefield.'
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>>79538321
Crass B8 .. but will reply as you seem a intelligent morlocks ok
the Facts are ..
Your country tuck the draft as you had no milt an feared us Britbongs one day coming back .. but really it was a way to give Males Rolemodels an give the self esteem ...
then the govt started wars in far gone countries to act the big world leader/like Empire Britbong the more you won .. the more you felt a superpower .. the draft was a need for cannon fodder .. this was govt not milts fault ok
then the Cold war came an all them bases in West Kraut became Realz ..
it was enuff to get real soldiers in then, in the 80s ,
when that fizzled the Jew Kikes engineered more wars for the muricans...
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>>79538520
this

fucking faggots like this ruin the militairy

i mean liking Rainbow Dash? wtf it's 2016 get your shit together man take a real mare like Applejack
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>>79538695
totally wrong ok ..
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>>79539254
/pol/ - How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79539488
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79538793
yeah with enemy in uniforms .. an didnt suicide you daft cunt
easiest war front in the History of war
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>>79538896
how can you tell?
i was in the military for quite a while actually
even tho i did not participated in those pristigious raids on emu breeding grounds i still did my duty

but talking about stuff on an philipean lolie board is pointless

>inb4 neckbeard
>inb4 wanna be
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>>79538520
>Vietnam
They never would have won.
The NVA treated the entire conflict as an exercise in realpolitik. The Americans viewed it as an insurgency. How can you win a war that was fought on multiple socio-political fronts while only sticking to conventional military strategy?

>Iraq
Occupation that turned into police action that turned into nation building while simultaneously preparing to leave.

.>Afghanistan
Failed to realize that the only nation building you can ever hope to achieve is in Kabul and nowhere else.
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>>79538856
agreed .. I aint a combat shrink like you ..
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>>79539673
I met many WW2 vets before they passed. Those were heros. Not some meathead who enlisted in 2014 for the "hero" tag, knowing he will never serve in a war, and will make a little cash along the way and get free education.
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>>79539679
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79539010
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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My grandfather is a high profile Nam vet, top 100 in terms of medals earned etc. (reason I know this is TIME wanted to interview him a couple years ago, told us he's somewhere up there in commendations/medals earned)

He's always telling me every 4th that the whole fireworks thing is some pussy bullshit, only thing he says troubles him in any way at all is sometimes the flares remind him of those back from the war at night, and even then it's just a reminder, not some psychotic scary flashback where he starts gibbering and falling to the ground or someshit

Now the thing I have seen him actually get spooked by is gunfire at ranges, but that isn't even too bad, he still shoots though, old bastard is scary accurate too, at 78 he can still nail a squirrel in the eye from our back porch from 150 yds in the head, he usually hits them in the eye.
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>>79525544
mexican intellectuals
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>>79539679
So none?
You did such a shit job at killing them they have come to breed you out. Nice work faggot.
The gun they issue you with is for killing Muslims
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Iraq and Afghanistan vets are traitors and murderers. Plan and simple. So many documentations of abuse, and hundreds of thousands civilian deaths. Oh your buddy lost part of his leg, well...... Thousands of innocent families were murdered at their hands. Not to mention the torture innocent detainees went through.
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>>79539827
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79539940
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79540023
How many Muslims have you killed? None? Lol fucking faggot Muslim lover
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>>79540079
u wot
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>>79539940
Any stories he told you?
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>>79539857
>be Portugese
>don't know about your history
>eventually realise you're the offspring of some arab scum from a thousend years ago
yeah you're a shitskin, everything coming from you ain't valid
>>79539968
still butthurt bout those emos, huh buddy?
don't worry atleast your brave soldiers are save now
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>>79536798
>a woman can't go a few months without having a cock shoved in her mouth while her husband is serving overseas
God I fucking hate women
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>>79540164
Still a Muslim loving faggot I see
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>>79539361

Yeah well the guy I was responding to said modern war. I missed that part, and had WW1 in mind.

Still though, medieval wars were still bitch mode compared to many modern wars. You turn up with an army for one day, and fight a battle that lasts for not very long at all. One of the armies gets routed after a decent number of men die. Compare that to sweating in a fucking vietnam jungle for a year, not knowing if some little gook fuck is hiding in the bushes.
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