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Gay animals.

how would /pol use its one collective braincell to argue about it this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5N34Q1Bio
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just as I though!
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Animals do it! Therefor it's okay! :D
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>>79512332

>Implying that mental defects are limited to humans
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>>79512332
some animals eat their own species. Cannibalism is OK. pol BTFO
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>>79512332
>has to compare himself to something as low as a goat
>b-but my behavior is just like that of this animal!
>wants equal rights as a person

no
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>>79513987
This.
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>>79512332
>>Canibalism
>>Incest
Animals do it therefore it's ok
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>>79512332
Very few animals on earth are capable of having sex for pleasure.

The vast majority of animals have sex for the sole purpose of breeding and reproducing.

Homosexual animals are going against one of their main functions and needs.

Therefore, a male goat fucking another male goat goes against nature.
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>>79512332
Should we follow the example of animals? Then we must emulate from them cannibalism, fraticide, coprophagy... among other things.
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>>79513901
not directly, but knowledge about the matter would stop people pouring out shit when they try to open their mouths about it.
By this seeing this behaviour as the imported social construct it represents combined with the fact that extrapolating from other higher simians humans probably practised it a lot longer than the couple of centuries when it was banned (by a new monotheistic desert religion), would raise the questions about why are there so many people bitching about it

it's widespread and complexity demonstrates that it should be worth studying and not straight away blindly demonised through the uneducated excuses like the dogma: morality/church
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>>79514328
watch the damn film , mate you are talking nonsense . it clearly explains in simple terms that it is infact not the exception
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>>79512332

I mean.

Lots of animals also instinctively kill children that don't belong to them(lions), rape, and eat their weaker children.
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>>79514748
I don't need some change.org homolust fanfic indoctrination, Klaus.
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>>79512332
Animals also cannibalize eachother all the time. Does this mean it's okay for me to have some jiggaboo soup?
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>>79514439
why do you think throwing around random words with the goal to schock would bring any validity to your claims.
I say, it's mainly about pleasure , derived directly through the nature of our stupid natural organs that make us. Other than that it is a legitimate way of population control (cited by Plato and Socrates), a natural way to form tight bonds and alliances in that brings flexibility to the tribal structure and so on....dont want to over explain to u personally gotta check what the others have to say too. anyway you are not saying anything new... just rephrasing the morality chant...which stems from...???
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>>79514907
this time it's not like that at all ... or ould you prefer to censure those scientific findings ...
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FYI, while homosexuality is found in animals, exclusive homosexuality is very close to nonexistent.

So it might be better to say bisexuality is found in animals.
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>>79515199
apes don't normally cannibalise each other, because they are intelligent enough and social enough to be disgusted by death the same way we are (as they rely on the tribe to survive and so forth...), the same way we are, do they pray to the same gods as us?
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>>79515463
now we are going in the right direction
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>>79512332
Animals also shit on the ground and merrily kill each other. Should animals really be taken as a role model?
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>>79515819

Dude chimp groups go to war and steal their children and tear them apart and eat them all the time.
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>>79515958
sounds like india
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>>79514223
what tells you this is a defect?
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>>79513901
>>79514073
>>79514315
>>79514439
>>79514765
>>79515199
>>79515958

>all these people who think we're somehow better than other animals
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>>79512332
Animals also eat other animals alive, nature is savage. Humans, at least in some parts of the world, have evolved to be civilized.
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>>79515243
Anal sex carries dangers both to the giver and the receiver. It is medically hazardous. Natural sex is not, under most circumstances.
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>>79516155
omg why did you just have to confess to everybody that u never fucked a girl in the ass
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>>79516048
kek, true
>>79516099
Aren't we? I'd say our societies are a bit more advanced than animal herds.
And I'm not just talking about technology
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>>79516099
This guy here thinks he's lower than an animal (it might be true) .
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>>79516223
We all know you are defending anal sex because you are on the receiving end, faggot.
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>>79512332
Suicide in the Animal kingdom.

how would /pol use its one collective braincell to argue about it this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI3u7g8PPEA
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>>79516547
and this claim helps your point how?
If I say I'm straight and fucked my girl in the ass how would that change anything
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>>79514147
>>79514073
This is a counter to the religious people who claim it as unnatural obviously. And why shouldn't they be given rights? They help our society. (Gays make more on average and adopt kids with no parents, win/win.)
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>>79516601
you never considered suicide yourself? You did . You are demented, my man!
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>>79516155
It might be dangerous but gay anal is way hotter than anything else is, or will ever, be. Worth it imo
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>>79516155
"Medically hazardous" what is a condom used for? I forget.
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>>79516838
It helps as much as your suggestion that I never fucked a girl in the ass.
And no, it wouldnt change anything because; you are still a faggot, and because anal sex is dangerous whether performed by homosexuals (like you) and heterosexuals.
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>>79512332
More like : "We like Animals : Human Homosexuality"
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>>79517073
>It helps as much as your suggestion that I never fucked a girl in the ass.
>And no, it wouldnt change anything because; you are still a faggot, and because anal sex is dangerous whether performed by homosexuals (like you) and heterosexuals.

there you have it gentlemen :

> /pol
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>>79512332

Animals aren't gay. They're retarded. They'll start humping the instsnt they experience psyical stimuli that might possibly be coming from a vagina, when it might just be a cushion or whatever
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>>79517066
I see, what about anal fissures and damage to the sphincter ?
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>>79513901
Animals do it, therefor it's a natural occurrence.

I don't care about fags, so long as indoctrinating their kids to be faggots like transgendered people do is against the law.
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i had two male guinea pigs and one would always try to have sex with the other
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>>79512332
>Gay animals.

>It's not OK to eat meat even though some animals eat meat.
>It's OK to be gay because some animals are gay.

Humans aren't animals. Any legislation we pass is purely based on potential backlash of having vs not having this legislation.

Will less people start beating each other up or killing each other if we have gay marriage laws than if we have anti gay marriage laws?

That is all that matters.
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>>79517318

>>79517248
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My opinion is that state marriage should be abolished in the first place. Gay marriage is counter intuitive.
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>>79517210
You silly gay kraut, you still haven't made an argument.
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>>79515819
Apes also shit in their hand and throw it at each other. Would I see you doing that? Lol. Should we put you in the ape exhibit?
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>>79516099
We literally are. We're at the top of the food chain for a reason.
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>>79517318
Most gay people know better then straight that they can't change their sexuality... don't see why they would force that on a child. >>79517257
Can you link a valid source that shows damage it causes? Because if you use lube and take it slow your ass isn't just gonna rip apart into a black hole. Don't pretend like you haven't seen straight porn with anal in it you dirty dirty faggot.
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>>79517210
>because anal sex is dangerous whether performed by homosexuals (like you) and heterosexuals.
but he's right. Anal prolapse is especially common between faggots because they have so much anal sex
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>>79517383
>Humans aren't animals
But…
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>>79517318
>fags
>and their kids
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>>79517725
"Anal prolapse is especially common between faggots" Nice try.

"Rectal prolapse is relatively uncommon, however, especially in men, and its causes are not well understood."

Donato F. Altomare, Filippo Pucciani (2008). Rectal Prolapse: Diagnosis and Clinical Management. Springer Science & Business Media. pp. 12–14.
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>>79517682
Here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anal+sex+health+concerns
No, I cant pretend I haven't seen it, but by the way you describe how you have taken it in the ass ,suggests that, so far, you got off lightly.
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>>79512332
When an new alpha lion takes over the pack, he kills off the younglings of the former pack leader to ensure only his genes are passed on.

Natural fallacies: not everything that happens in nature is intrinsically good and not everything that didn't happen in nature before is intrinsically bad.
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>>79512332
Appealing to Nature.
Dismissed.
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>>79517857
>doesn't know that fag couples adopt children all the time
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>>79516099
Science nigger detected
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>>79518330
>>79518429
>>79518330
Except muh degeneracy and "it's not natural" seemed to be the only "arguments" against it. Funny that the most gay city in the world also has an average income $30,000 higher than most large cities. They sure ruin the world.
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>>79518624
They have a higher income, so? Faggots still participate in unnatural acts that lead to many sexually transmitted diseases.
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>>79512332
Animals also rape, so rape is natural does this means its ok for humans to rape eachother now?
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>>79518839
>Faggots still participate in unnatural acts
see
>>79512332 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5N34Q1Bio
cause ya missed it the first time obviously. two same sex animals getting it on is definitely not gay or natural though. definitely.
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Animals also rape, kill, and eat eachother. Is that alright now since Animals do it?
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>>79517383
... do you know this job it's called soldier , and its task to actually kill other people... I know, right?

So you want to set a very distinctive border between humans and animals , because of ..reasons, ok... the bodies we inhabit share no similarity whatsoever and our brains are totally different and function on legislations the nerve endings are just imaginary anyway
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>>79519541
I see you have failed to grasp the fact that anal sex is still an act that leads to many health risks and that animals do much more that gay sex, as stated before; cannibalism, fratricide, coprophagy , etc... so why pick and choose the one that best fits your habits? Is it because you are a massive faggot that enjoys to be pounded in the ass?
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>>79512332

what is animal homosexual promiscuity like?

do they mate for life even when homosex?
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>>79512332

already 1 minute in

>'''''''''''pair bond'''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''lifelong partners'''''''''

human homosexuality is nothing like this
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>>79512332
It is not an argument for either camp.
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>>79512332
>Around 8 million species on the planet in total(estimates)
>1.3 million sexually reproducing species
> 1,500 species with homosexuality
Yeah sure being a fag isn't weird and totally happens in the animal kingdom a lot
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>>79513987
>what do you mean it's not wrong, have you ever seen this happen normally in nature?
>yes
>whatever, it's still wrong!
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>>79522477
kek
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>animals have homosexuality, animals have rape, animals have murder, animals have war, animals have cannibalism
Holy shit, you do realize they're animals right? Lower than humans, not higher - we don't need to copy our behaviour from creatures who are far less intelligent.
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>>79516155
>Natural sex is not, under most circumstances.
Dumbest post I saw on /pol/ in quite some time

Here's some studying material for you, it's not like you'll ever be at risk though https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malattia_sessualmente_trasmissibile
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>>79517725
>Anal prolapse is especially common between faggots because they have so much anal sex
Anal prolapse occurs most commonly amongst pregnant women.
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>>79520058
>cannibalism
>fratricide
>coprophagy
>anal sex
One of these doesn't make other people die or give you bad breath
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>>79522823

>posting link to STIs
>claiming this is the same as anal sex risks
Dumbest post i saw on /pol/ in quite some time

there are risks of infection due to cleanliness and promiscuity which are shared amongst both orientations.

Vaginal penetration may be painful sometimes but there are not the same risks as anal. but 3/10 on your strawman effort.
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>>79512332
Animals also steal from, murder and rape each other. Might show homosexuality is to be expected but it by no means shows its okay. To say something is natural only makes sense if human nature is inherently good, which it isn't.
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> animals have gay sex
> therefore gay sex is ok
> animals rape and engage in cannibalism
>???????????????
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>>79512332
No animal is exclusively homosexual, animals like cumming just like humans so sometimes they use randoms holes to do it, such as monkeys do with fruit. Doesn't make those monkeys fruitsexual, it's just masterbation, as is any kind of "homosexual" behavior.
In the instances where a same sex "couple" is raising an offspring out of necessity, as penguins do, it's not even sexual.
In any case, homosexuality is just something post modernism invented to excuse the mentally deficient and those with a naturally low need for relationships with the opposite sex. It's not a real thing.
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>>79512332
The vagina is acidic to kill off foreign bacteria. The shithole is not. Why didn't nature develop a defense mechanism for all the gay sex it's having?
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>>79523314
Okay so tell us why "gay sex" isn't okay? Does that make anal sex between a man and a woman wrong by that same regard?
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>>79523059
Your logic is that anything that doesnt kill you should be practiced. That makes you a disgrace to your slavic kin.
Homosexuality is riskier, and therefore, more prone to make people die of STDs.
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>>79523195
What are you even arguing against? If you're careless, promiscuous and your immune system is shit, you're likely to get an infection from any hole you stick it in. Dago up there literally argued that there's no danger to have from regular "natural" sex, which is pure bullcrap. Because apparently vaginas don't have their own microflora that can throw up a nice opportunistic infection, and small cuts and tears of the vagina aren't a common occurence. Everybody heterosexual was perfectly healthy apparently, until those horrible faggots showed up!
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>>79523370
Homosexuality dates back to Greece and Rome. How post modern. Isle of Lesbos ring a bell?
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>>79512332
Naturalistic fallacy is a fallacy for a reason.
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>>79512332
Animals do all kinds of weird and creepy shit like sniff each other's butt holes and fling feces around and eat each other, eat their spouse, eat their young, or the young of another.
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>>79522823
>Dumbest post I saw on /pol/ in quite some time


You're an idiot. Anal sex is unhealthy specifically because you were not designed for it.

Anal sex is unnatural.

As a heterosexual who doesn't dabble in IV drugs it is statically impossible that I will get AIDS. As a homo your odds are about 1:1.

Anal sex is unnatural

Q. How do you make a gay guy scream twice?

A. Fuck him in the ass really hard then wipe your dick off on his curtains.
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>>79523631
Homosexuality was regarded as a masterbatury act, solely for pleasure, not as a sexual orientation or identity, because it's not. Young teen asshole feels tight, so they fucked young boys instead of using their own hand.
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>>79523612
I doubt there can be a comparison in risks between anal sex and natural sex.
Natural sex involves the sexually reproductive organs. The anus is not a sexually reproductive organ, nor a sexual organ, for all matters. It is used to defecate and fart. But how would you know this if you ride dick all day with your ass?
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>>79523611
>Your logic is that anything that doesnt kill you should be practiced.
If you can do it without harming or killing yourself or your vicinity, either short term or long term, then literally what's the harm? I hope you also don't smoke or drink beer and eat meet sparingly, all of those are detrimental to your health.
>disgrace to your slavic kin
You're implying that I have nationalistic feelings, which couldn't be further from truth. Why bring it up though, don't you have your own corrupt politicians to bitch about anyway?
>Homosexuality is riskier, and therefore, more prone to make people die of STDs.
Correction: homosexuality is statistically riskier. Just because more careless homos were surveyed for statistics doesn't mean that you, personally, would be at more risk if you take the proper precautions. Not even homo.

>>79523884
>because you were not designed for it.
Oh how I love this argument.
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE DESIGNED FOR AND WHAT NOT FOR. Do you have a human body instruction book?
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>>79524128
Something tells me you didn't even open the wikipedia article I linked you.

"Oh but we've just touched out sexual organs like nature willed us to, how come I have crabs and AIDS?"

Turns out reality doesn't follow your primary school's biology textbook to the letter.
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>>79524174
>WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE DESIGNED FOR AND WHAT NOT FOR. Do you have a human body instruction book?
It's because anal sex leads to greater incidence of disease and anal sex related ailments such as anal fistulas.
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>>79524045
>afghan detected
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>>79524523
Not to mention that sex is designed for procreation, so all kinds of sodomy can be labeled as an unnatural act, or at least an act the human body was not designed for.
>>79524659
>faggot detected
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Animals get diseases too.
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>>79512332
nig
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>>79524174
"If you can do it without harming or killing yourself or your vicinity" Oh so now its different? Anal sex can certainly harm you and some STDs can outright kill you.
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regardless, it wont pass on their genes, leading to self-destruction

only male on female breeding with increase a genetic diversity of a population

check and mate
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>>79524045
"The primary dichotomy of ancient Roman sexuality was active/dominant/masculine and passive/submissive/"feminised". Roman society was patriarchal, and the freeborn male citizen possessed political liberty (libertas) and the right to rule both himself and his household (familia). "Virtue" (virtus) was seen as an active quality through which a man (vir) defined himself. The conquest mentality and "cult of virility" shaped same-sex relations. Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded a citizen even if they were technically free."
You guys got wikipedia there or what?
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>>79512332
Adam caused the whole of creation to fall with him. Sin entered into the world including faggotry.
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>>79512332
Are they actually penetrating one another for pleasure, or just trying to show the females they're ready to bang? A heifer will mount another one and start humping, not because they're gay but it asserts dominance and shows males they're ready to bang.
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>>79524476

how are you having such a hard time understanding this basic fucking concept.

the mechanics of anal penetration have risks related to internal injury, the mechanics of vaginal penetration do not have risks related to internal injury.

venereal diseases are a different category, you cretin
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>>79524523
>greater incidence of disease
See >>79524174
>anal sex related ailments such as anal fistulas
Nice, another hole to fuck!
On a more serious note, anal fistulas? Anal sex related? Only very indirectly at best. You know what you're likely to get anal fistulas from though? Ingrown hairs from sitting on your ass all the time. Look it up.

>>79524805
>designed
That word again.
I suppose homosexuals invented contraception so they could turn a natural act into another kind of sodomy!

>>79524895
So can "natural" sex, what's your point? Let's all stay asexual then.
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>>79524805
Goddamn I hate Kikes.

Get off my board you piece of shit

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>79512332
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals

Also, appeal to nature is a fallacy.
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>>79512332
>mental illness occurs in animals as well as humans

Well no shit, Hans. Is this some kind of profound revelation for you, you fucking child?
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>>79525140
RARE
How are you, Mugabe?
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>>79525067
>the mechanics of vaginal penetration do not have risks related to internal injury.
But that's very fucking wrong. You think the vaginal mucous layer is invincible? That a thick rapist dick couldn't tear it apart?
The only cretin is you, because I already addressed this point before.
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>>79512332
>how would /pol use its one collective braincell to argue about it this time

prove they actively seek male companions instead of just fucking things to assert themselves or because they're dumb ass animals
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>>79524939
The quote you posted says that man were free to fuck men of lower social background (slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers) and as long as they penetrate. Sounds to me like a masterbatury act rather than a sexual orientation.
>>79525096
Yes, designed. If you can't make kids you are ejaculating in the wrong hole, not in the hole d e s i g n e d for ejaculation.
>>79525140
I was here before you know what 4chan is cuck boy, deal with it
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>>79523468
>completely missing the argument
They are saying just because someone jumps off a bridge doesn't mean you should too. Saying 'well animals are homosexual means its okay' isn't a valid argument for supporting homosexuality. There are a ton of things a wide variety of animals do but that doesn't mean we can use it as a means to justify our actions.
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>>79515243
Because you're using an appeal to nature logical fallacy.
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>>79525171
"But that evidently isn't what's happening. For some animals, homosexual behaviour isn't an occasional event – which we might put down to simple mistakes – but a regular thing."

Read the fucking article you post you degenerate. It supports HIS point, not yours.
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>>79523468
Gay sex is basically just another form of fetishism. Wouldn't be much of a problem if it was kept purely taboo and private, like being a scatfag. Instead people to to force everyone else to accept it and change age old traditions to accommodate the fetishists.
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>>79516865

They also rape children more on average.

Watch Common Filth
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>>79525171
OP wasn't really using appeal to nature.

He's just saying it occurs in nature. Whether it's good or bad is up to you.
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>>79523468
Yeah, you fucking retard.
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None of the hippies in here are real people. They're just trying to get a rise out of anyone that will pay attention.
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>>79516099
Appeal to nature fallacy ITT.
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>>79525096
Also, yes, contraception have turned sex into a potentially useless act and did nothing but to harm society.
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>>79512332
We are better than animals
Say no to faggotism
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>>79512332
Yah ,hello? is OP there?

Yah hi see animals who fuck their own sex are equally as perverted and disordered as humans who do.

Did you have any other questions?
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>>79525394
I sincerely doubt that. Can't wait for your city to be overrun. Maybe I'll watch your corpse dragged through the streets
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>>79517318
Appeal to nature fallacy.
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>>79517657
>humans
>top of the food chain

http://earthsky.org/human-world/humans-arent-top-predators-says-new-report


maybe when it comes to hamburgers and junk food, my american dude
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>>79525492
>They also rape children more on average.
Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).
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>>79524045
>>79523631

very selective range of arguments there. failing to mention the ancient Greek idea that love can only exist between two free men of similar social status and that women are only for baring children.
Homo / Bi - sex was regarded as completely usual.. also Sparta, the warriors of Thebes were especially selected to go into battle with their lovers and fight to the end protecting each other.
Also the notion that knowledge itself was transmitted through sperm , made it popular of teachers to sleep with their students (all male ofcourse).
Also Sapphic love (isle of Lesbos),


after the huge gap marked by censorship of homosexual themes, modern historians finally have reconstructed a more unbiased historical picture.
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>>79525628
You'll get used to me posting here, don't worry, we might even have a pleasant discussion some day when you'll stop trying to fit in so hard, proxyfag
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>>79519541
In principle sex leads to procreation. Gay sex does not in principle lead to procreation. Hence gay sex isn't really sex.
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>>79525781
So that also applies to sex with condoms, and birth control. Nah we should all have 12 kids. Go back south hombre.
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>>79525096
You are a Jew, aren't you?
You can't seriously think that anal sex is just as safe as natural sex. The vagina does not have fecal matter and fecal bacteria nor does it need artificial lubricants. Anal sex requires considerable precautions and even then it doesn't promise to be risk free.
Read: http://www.healthcommunities.com/anal-health/index.shtml
You can get anal cancer from anal sex.
>>79525781
This.
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>>79512332
Its funny that our entire existence is one that hinges on the duality of all things. Yet a fag thinks he knows better.
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>>79525465
I did read the article. The only other species where they're gay i.e. They only have same sex relationships all their life is in domesticated sheep, and those sheep have a gene that causes it hence making it a defect. You didn't even read the article.
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>>79525493
He used that it occurs in nature in order to justify its existence in humans, which is therefore arguing that it should be allowed and is ok.

He basically said its natural for humans to do because it's natural for animals to do, thus appeal to nature.
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>>79526156
Wrong, wrong, wrong. First off that cancer isn't from anal sex, it's all sex that can spread this. My parents have it and I bet yours do too, was quite common in their time. Infection with the human papilloma virus (HPV) increases the risk of anal cancer, and cervical cancer.
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>>79519821
>So you want to set a very distinctive border between humans and animals , because of ..reasons

Look, we share a lot of things with animals, but legislation isn't one of them. Vindictiveness is also not a trait we share with the animal kingdom. Revenge for animals is an immediate thing. A response to an attack. Not so for humans who can carry a grudge across generations, and have a disproportionate response.

To enforce peace across our species, we, as a group, decide to hand-off our revenge to justice and its enforcers so that they may be more fair.

This isn't something animals can do.

If a gay animal goes to fuck a non gay animal, the second might snap at the first, but he won't go around and beat up all other gay animals.

Saying that humans are just animals is completely wrong.
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>>79526014
No you don't understand what the words "in principle" mean. In principle, heterosexual sex leads to procreation. There are some cases where it doesn't, but in principle that's what it's designed to do and that's what it does. However with gay sex there is a 0% chance in procreation. Hence it is not sex.
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>>79524895
omg why does this guy continue with all the ass talk ...ASS ASS ASS.... what about lesbians man??

You've got the nerve endings there . They can be stimulated to produce a sexual response...Enough!
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>>79524940
best explanation so far
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>>79526208
The only other species where they're gay i.e.
You mean the only other species mentioned in that article? There's 1500 animals that exhibit homosexual behavior. Swans and penguins choose same sex life partners as well. You know those domesticated penguins in Antarctica...
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>>79526401
No. A risk factor for anal cancer is anal sex. Begone with your faggotry at once! https://www.fascrs.org/patients/disease-condition/anal-cancer
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>>79525052
watch the documentary again and dont talk nonsense ... there is still no explanation to a lot of homosexaul trends in animals the canot be so easily dismissed with such a simple statement
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>>79514658
only faggots can look at animals and think its natural, thefore normal for pĂŞople, animals rape, kill murder, steal thefore we should allow that shit because it's NATURAL. you fucking faggot GTFO out /pol/

humans are not animals, only the fags think so, therefore fags are animals
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>>79526598
From your article:
About two-thirds of anal cancers affect women.
Anal cancer most often affects people ages 55-64.

Yeah seems like anal cancer is hitting the gay men hard... All those 20 year old fags in San Fran dying of it right? Read ur article pls
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>>79526707
fuck off animal, why don't you go back to the jungle and anal rape baboons?
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>>79526597
Proofs that they're doing it to have gay sex with no benefits to their species such as the sheep and humans. Also proofs that they never have heterosexual relations at any point in their life.
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>>79526479
You faggots are the ones that started by stating shit like "it is completely risk free!", "I love it in the ass", "if you go slow and steady its aight!", "we aint harmin no one, so it must be aight!" and so on, and so on.
Faggots.
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>>79525556
that is a different topic , but you have a point there ....It's only fair to assume the far future will probably be sexless
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>>79526837
From the article:
Risk factors: Anal Sex
Nuff said.
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>>79526771
>humans are not animals
Kek. Can you really be this retarded?
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>>79525556
>>79525394
Must be sad viewing your sex life as a pure utility for securing heritage, but I suppose having their foreskin robbed at an early age may have that effect on some people.

>>79526473
I'm a vegan in principle, I can decide to stop eating meat anytime, I just never want to.
If you're not wanting to have kids with your current partner, suddenly "in principle" means shit.

>>79526156
>You are a Jew, aren't you?
What difference would it make?
>The vagina does not have fecal matter and fecal bacteria nor does it need artificial lubricants. Anal sex requires considerable precautions and even then it doesn't promise to be risk free.
Artificial lubricants can be gotten at your local pharmacy. Many women nowadays actually have problems with natural lubrication, my ex had long term troubles with it too.
Vaginal sex isn't that much different with precautions. The standards of cleanliness can be more lenient but the safety-first rule should still apply. I suppose it takes less time to "practice" your cunt's sphincter for sex than your ass if that's your point.
>You can get anal cancer from anal sex.
From a sexually transmitted virus. You'd know this if you had read your link related.
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>>79526598
>No. A risk factor for anal cancer is anal sex

In as much as anal sex cause irritation to the colon and intestine, which causes a higher than normal rate of cellular division for repair, which ups the odds of a cell having a replication error and becoming cancerous, then yes, anal sex can up the risk of cancer.

But in that case, so does eating meat without enough fiber. So does holding your poop in.

As long as it's not something done often, it shouldn't up the risk noticeably.
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>>79526995
>>79526995
Amricucks can't even philosophy 101
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>>79527052
I have a foreskin. What's sad is viewing what is supposed to be procreation as a pleasure no different than taking drugs. You are a sad excuse for a human.
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>>79512332
Animals rape and murder each other too - is that acceptable?
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I always figured it was a sign of domination in animals. You never see the one on the receiving end looking pleased about it, because it's the beta male in the situation.
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in the animal kingdom, you end cuckoo children by biting their neck.
We have yet to learn from the animal.
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>>79527254
Who are we do deny ourselves pleasure and the joy of human bonding if we can have it without negative consequences? Sex, like drugs, can be a pleasurable activity, drugs however are almost unanimously harmful - and even that could be debatable for some sorts. Listening to music and playing chess are pleasurable activities that can qualify for "useless wastes of time", and I don't see you complaining about either.
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>>79512332
Have a read, its an interesting idea from an anon way back
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actually I'm writing my medical Ph.D's thesis in gynaecology , and for me it's a way to chill down a bit and grab a smoke.
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>>79516099
Even if we weren't better, we should atrive to be. Humanity's drive to be better is what has given us so much and made us so great. We could be like other animals, but we choose to aspire to be something more.
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>>79527655
>PHd thesis
>faggot attention whoring

pick one
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>>79512332
>>79512332
>animals do it
>therefore it's cool
So rape is back on the table?
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>>79512332
They do it because they are idiots, therefore gays are idiots.
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>>79527402
they change roles afterwards ... really ,, just watch the fucking film
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>>79527648
This is another interesting read, anon disputing the gay gene
if this is accepted then the idea that its a symptom of an infection becomes very plausible


Albeit this should not cause a change in attitude towards gays it may mean a cure is a viable option
also the tears from the lefties would be amazing
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>>79516133
literally the jewish belief
>kikes think they're civilized
>semitic false religions believe they are correct
stay made kikes, christkikes and hadjikikes
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>>79512332
So? Animals do loads of fucked up shit, there's a reason we don't follow their example.
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>>79528006
Oh and here's some stats on faggots just for fun
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>>79527648
>The cause of homosexuality.
>my sides
You're a complete and utter moron. That causes increased sexual attraction to not other same sex rats, but sexual attraction from the smell of cat urine. This is so it won't run and the cat will eat it, infecting it. Learn to google.
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>>79527807
>>79525539
the guy called me a hippie, sorry
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>>79527568
Unlike chess and music, there is no art or mental improvement in drugs and sexual pleasure, because they are pleasure for the sake of pleasure, they are purely hedonistic, while the pleasure you get from music is the pleasure of using your creativity, and the pleasure you get from chess is the pleasure of using your intellect.
So that's the first fundamental difference - I am against hedonism as a general rule, homosexuality, safe sex and drugs are just symptoms of our hedonistic society.
My other problems with gays include the fact that they are a harmful group as a whole, which means that they should be opposed even if some individual gays are ok, and that they are very nepotistic and that they ferociously infect the media and academia, to push their propaganda. They are a measly 1% of our societies yet they demand political power and privileges, and they have opened the way for other perverts to harm society further, like trannies, zoophiles(we are seeing both nowadays) and soon pedophiles.
If this is not a cancer on society I don't know what is.
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>>79528151
What else would you expect from a sensationalist tabloid imageboard.
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>>79528151
I mean did you read passed the fourth line?
It states that in there
however it also states that the sexuality of the rat is changed even when no longer infected
Perhaps you should read a full passage before attacking it,
I also never said I subscribed to the idea, only that it was interesting
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>>79528131
Hah! Dave Agema's shit has long been disproved. That source also claims Obama to be gay later on. Nice try though. http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/4282/dave_agema_s_homophobic_facebook_post_was_short_on_facts#.V3f3e9IrLow
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>>79516865
Why would I want a kid to be raised by two men. Children need a female figure in thier life to nuture them and a male figure to yell at them and be tough with them. Faggots raise faggots and we don't need more faggots we need more men
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>>79527052
You still don't understand what the words "in principle" means. Sad!
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>>79512332
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>>79528402
thanks for this, hadn't seen the criticisms as I didn't know the name the article or w.e was capped from
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>>79512332

Cannibalism and infanticide are both present in animals, but nobody uses those as justification for human cannibalism and infanticide.

Also, it's not long-lived homosexual behavior. Gay couples do not produce offspring, and the animal's ultimate goal is to survive and produce offspring.

If a male were to mate with another male, it would be to show dominance, or some other scientific reason
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>>79515819

You know literally nothing about Apes.

They brutally murder each other all the fucking time, they eat the children of their rivals.

Fuck, I hate to say this but Apes are literally everything /pol/ ever says about Tribal Negros made manifest.

Hell, it's where all the comparisons come from!
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>>79528621
Animals that are observed to have same-sex life partners:
Giraffe
Bonobos
Swans
Flamingos
Dolphins
Vampire Bats
Sea Lions
Killer Whales
Domesticated Sheep
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>>79516099
I'd like to see chimpanzees travel to the moon on their own, or make phones and other technical shit
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>>79528621
animal dont have sex for pleasure
humans do
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>>79512332

Animals have brains and thus are also capable of having mental disorders

Mystery solved
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>>79517318

animals also practice murder, rape, cannibalism, pedophilia and necrophilia so I guess those things are ok too?
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Beastiality occurs in nature too. Should we accept it as normal?
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>>79512332
These animals aren't exclusively homosexual though. They just like to stick their dick into anything. They'll bang females as well.
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>>79528988
yes
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>>79525729

>Nothing above us
>Everything below us

We are, if we weren't at the top of the Food chain then we would regularly be eaten by the things that are, that's the point.

We've BEEN at the top of the food chain ever since the early concept of a thrown rock was refined into a sling.
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>>79512332
This is called the naturalistic fallacy or argument from nature and it's fallacious. Humans murder all the time, humans are natural beings, therefore murder is natural, therefore murder is ok. Don't be. Simpleton.
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>>79528295
>pleasure of using your creativity
In listening to music you haven't made?
>pleasure you get from chess is the pleasure of using your intellect.
The pleasure you get from sex is the pleasure of using your dick.
>I am against hedonism as a general rule
I'm not one to advocate hedonism, but this is purely your own problem.
>they are a harmful group as a whole
Because of a couple of SJWs piggybacking on homosexuals as a scapegoat to achieve political power. This has nothing to do with actually doing the in-out in-out with a man's body. It's a phase because the media makes it one because it riles up curmudgeons like you.
>and they have opened the way for other perverts
Why do you see them all collectively as harmful however? Is it not because you were conditioned to hate them out of principle?
>If this is not a cancer on society I don't know what is.
You are. "Society" can take care of itself just fine, just like it did for the last bunch of millenia.

>>79528494
My mother yelled at me and was tough with me, I had my father to nurture me. "Female" and "male" figures aren't gender specific.

>>79528562
I still don't understand how things being "in principle" something improves on them if they are never bound to achieve what they are "in principle".
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>>79528131
Oh for fucks sake.
When will people here stop posting that meme-image?

Look at the sources please. They are mostly, if not all, outdated. Some of them are even from things like the San Francisco Sentinel, a known shit tabloid. It also only covers San Francisco two or more decades ago.

Would you want to be judged by a news paper article about Jersey Shore?
San Francisco is a cesspool of degeneracy and shit and needs to be nuked, it does not represent any group that happens to live there.

Please get updated data and stop posting that image.
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>>79528988
Murder kills someone, rape is not consensual, cannibalism involves someone being eaten, pedophilia is not consenual (a child cannot consent), nor is necrophilia. How do these compare to sex?
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>>79529205
>Please get updated data and stop posting that image.
They won't, because it's great fuel against gays for the uninformed.
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>>79529205
>>79528402 already gave me the criticisms of it, hadn't seen them before
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Homosex is caused by an X riding in general, and over exposure to estrogen in the womb.

In women, the homosex gene causes increased fertility. That's why it hasn't been selected out.

I dunno about dykes though.. they're probably faking it.
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>>79512332
all that it btfo's are the /pol/tards who say homosexuality is bad because 'its not natural!!' which was already wrong because of the naturalistic fallacy
basically it does nothing
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>>79512332
If you're so smart, why don't you show me a video of male a horse fucking another male horse in the ass?

Your move, faggot.
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>>79529486
/pol/'s not here to provide you with fap material, anon
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>>79529449
Ah, my apologies. I only saw that that guy linked to some stuff but didn't actually write out the reasons why that image should no longer be used.
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>>79529204
>In listening to music you haven't made?
You can argue that observing art develops your creativity.
>The pleasure you get from sex is the pleasure of using your dick.
You can use your intellect for self improvement and the improvement of society, unlike your libido.
>I'm not one to advocate hedonism, but this is purely your own problem.
No, it really isn't. I rejected it, I'm gonna be ok, it's society's problem, and that is kind of a big deal.
>Because of a couple of SJWs piggybacking on homosexuals as a scapegoat to achieve political power. This has nothing to do with actually doing the in-out in-out with a man's body. It's a phase because the media makes it one because it riles up curmudgeons like you.
Based on what? That's bullshit, homosexuals are the ones pushing their agenda, faghugs are not the main problem here. SJW will always jump on the virtue signaling bandwagon but they aren't the ones who are beginning it.
>Why do you see them all collectively as harmful however?
I stated my reasons and posted a picture with sources.
>"Society" can take care of itself just fine, just like it did for the last bunch of millenia.
No, it will collapse. Not only because of fags, but they are a part of the reason.
You are obviously a cultural relativist who will allow anything to happen as long as you can cum freely and smoke weed, you are the cancer of this society too.
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>>79529805
Please try and make the distinction between homosexuals and faggots.

Some people build their entire character and life around their sexual preferences, some really don't care.
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>>79522477
>normally in nature
Except it's not normal in nature. It occurs randomly through genetic disease and mental retardation. Simply existing does not make something normal you n'wah
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>>79530116
This.

Please always make the distinction between natural and normal.
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>>79529805
>Based on what? That's bullshit, homosexuals are the ones pushing their agenda, faghugs are not the main problem here. SJW will always jump on the virtue signaling bandwagon but they aren't the ones who are beginning it.
Oh no, it's the SJWs. Gay people in liberal cities have what they need (examples: San Fran, Seattle) these cities are also VERY rich. 47M is just 1% of Seattle's city budget, and is home to giants such as Microsoft, Amazon, Boeing, Starbucks, and not to mention all that money we're getting from legal pot. How is your country doing? Any missiles hit you today?
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>>79530095
I get it but I argue against the whole group, and most of your brethren are harmful to society. As I stated, I can accept that there are many individual gays who are not faggots, but they are still a part of a group whose acceptance ruins society.
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>>79513901
sure

>>79514073
sure

>>79516865
>make more
Oh so they steal from our soceity?
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>>79530286
What does it has to do with anything? The fact that they push their agenda further although they are not persecuted in the west only makes them worse. They don't deserve any of the privileges they have and yet the ask for more.
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>>79529483
a better way to phrase it, is to say it isn't healthy. In the natural cycle of life, it isn't.
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>>79528295
that's cool and all let me follow your logic.
The only valid argument against homosexuality or bisexual lifestyles can only come from the proof that it is detrimental to society's health.
This takes homosexuality as a sort of disease or unhealthy practise (like smoking lets say) and states the symptoms statistically...but since there is no prevention and patients suffering from its clinical manifestations tend to fell very strongly about it and is a very huge part of there individuality, legislative prohibition will be causing more harm to those requiring treatment even if its only in this closed group of people...

dont you see the parallel with religion here, also a thing people tend to have very strong feelings for...a thing without a rational explanation (bordering absurdity in some of its implementations [Islam anyone?]), with controversial benefits and disadvantages. Moreover an even more highly contagious one


Since not much progress is made towards unbiased research into homosexuality's role in nature and our society and its actual effects on the grand scale a final statement cannot be made....

and yea morallity is in constatnt change and evolves as societies change


...fuck it I'm going to watch football , bb
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>>79530296
I'd like to argue against the fact that such a 'group' even exists, but thanks to how life in the 1960s and after there, sadly, is that thing called 'gay culture'.

It should never have existed and never should have been accepted.

What did people expect would happen, when a whole society is built by people whose ONLY shared trait is their sexual preferences?
Of course it will create a repulsing messy sex-filled world.

The worst thing is that this culture, instead of being silently erased, get's celebrated and it's 'the cool thing' to be supportive of it, no matter how shitty it is.

There are plenty of examples in history of gay men having a perfectly nice place in society. It just can't happen with all the shitty 'gay '''''culture''''' ' we have to suffer through.

Sorry for ranting. It just pisses me off that I have to be judged by the actions of degenrates who should have been gassed years ago.
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>>79529246
exactly
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>>79530599
>>"Society" can take care of itself just fine, just like it did for the last bunch of millenia.
>No, it will collapse. Not only because of fags, but they are a part of the reason.
>You are obviously a cultural relativist who will allow anything to happen as long as you can cum freely and smoke weed, you are the cancer of this society too.

A society with many homosexuals and weed, that's rich and doing well goes against your point no? I thought you said it would ruin the society? We've had both here for a few years and all is going well. Lay off the xanax you bartard
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>>79529246
animals don't subscribe to your special set of values. They disregard them all.

Using animals as an excuse to do something is invalid because of this.
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I watched a monkey jerk off using a live frog before. I watched my dog fuck a headless chicken before. What kind of argument is this.
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>>79530818
The difference between homosexuality and religion is that religion exists to set a moral standard, which is the reason people feel strongly about it - if they wouldn't the standard would be lowered. The reason gays feel strongly about their sexuality is pretty much identity politics.
In any case, I'm not calling for a legislative prohibition, but for social taboo. I truly don't mind if people fuck in the ass but it should not be socially acceptable in any way, and individuals who can fight their urges need to have a social incentive to do it, like they did before. In this case many bisexuals will choose a family and so on, and many gays will simply choose chastity, which is not as bad as modern society says it is.
>>79530825
Hey, I agree with you more or less.
>>79531227
No, it doesn't. Being financially prosperous is not what defines a functional society, but a functional business. A society needs more than cash and the fact you can think that weed tax is what makes a society is pretty worrying.
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>>79529805
>You can argue that observing art develops your creativity.
You can argue that observing a naked body develops your sense of beauty.
>You can use your intellect for self improvement and the improvement of society, unlike your libido.
Your libido can be used for bonding with another person, which makes them easier to convince of your views of society and why it needs improvement with your already superior intellect. The activities aren't even exclusive, you can have gay sex while playing chess and discussing politics for the ultimate balance of self-engagement.
>No, it really isn't. I rejected it, I'm gonna be ok, it's society's problem, and that is kind of a big deal.
And why is it a big deal for you if you're already out of it?
>Based on what? That's bullshit, homosexuals are the ones pushing their agenda, faghugs are not the main problem here. SJW will always jump on the virtue signaling bandwagon but they aren't the ones who are beginning it.
SJWs and "homosexual activists" are one group. One can be gay without associating with either.
>I stated my reasons and posted a picture with sources.
I'm not discussing your picture, I'm asking why are other, non-gay sexual orientations and paraphilias harmful by principle. Not everything involves a nonconsenting sentient partner or violence.
>No, it will collapse. Not only because of fags, but they are a part of the reason.
Society could withstand hundreds of continent-wide epidemics, brutal wars, natural disasters, but a couple dozen people with signposts in rainbow outfits are enough to bring it down? That kind of pansy society could use a good collapse actually.

>>79530116
>>79530244
Who decides what is normal? Why should it be you?
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>>79531227
> all is going well

Have you seen the state of Germany or Sweden, or where every other western nation is heading?
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>>79531757
partying hard is natural and ok, even animals do it

as long as you dont damage the economy, its morally ok
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>>79531868
>Who decides what is normal?
The definition of normal. Normal is defined as the average or standard state of something. It's not subjective.
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>>79532110
>morally
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>>79532110
Is this sarcastic of not? I can't tell and don't want to check for your previous posts to see which side you're arguing for
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>>79532162
Who decides what is the standard state of a human that's universally applicable across sexes, nations, races?
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>>79531897
they seem to be doing ok, they produce stuff and get money and whatnot

the only thing "going wrong" is migrants being expensive but that has nothing to do with gays or weed or w/e, if anything, the influx of muslims will make the place less gay

>>79531868
>Who decides what is normal?
fuck off with this buzzphrase

normality has a very clear definition, it's that which is literally statsically normative (i.e. prevalent among most of a group)

it's not normal to be gay at all. the issue is that not being normal is not necessarily bad.
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>>79532298
Standard is not decided, it's observed. The vast majority of humans (and every other living creature) are heterosexual. Therefore heterosexual is the normal state
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>>79531868
>observing a naked body develops your sense of beauty.
I agree, this has nothing to do with sexual pleasure though.
>Your libido can be used for bonding with another person, which makes them easier to convince of your views of society
So, your argument is that you cum in people to influence them ideologically? Is this really all you've got to say?
>you can have gay sex while playing chess
This is getting silly
>And why is it a big deal for you if you're already out of it?
I care about society, unlike hedonists and nihilists who care only about cum and high
>One can be gay without associating with either.
True, but you can't be a homosexual activist without being associated with gays. I said a thousand times, some individuals are ok for sure, but if the group as a whole is harmful, or even can be used by SJW to harm society, it is a group that needs to be opposed.
>I'm asking why are other, non-gay sexual orientations and paraphilias harmful by principle.
All sexual behavior that is only for pleasure is harmful by principle if you agree that hedonism is harmful by principle. The same way that taking drugs for treatment is not hedonistic, and taking them for pleasure is.
>but a couple dozen people with signposts in rainbow outfits are enough to bring it down?
I also said already that this movement is a symptom of a nihilistic society. Yes, they will bring it down, among other things. They are not the source but they are furthering the disease.
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>79531897
Fail to see how that's relevant. We're not accepting refugees and don't plan to.
>79531795
No one cares what your ideal "perfect society" is though. The point is we have both of those groups that you say ruin societies in numbers and nothing has happened. How do you have any right to tell me what an acceptable society is considering where you live? No one wants to live in the Middle East, people want to live here. No big shock.
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>>79532264
im only half-joking; all actions are only morally bad if they affect others negatively. no harm no foul

banging a live frog is bad and just senseless rape/murder, but that chicken is already dead so whatever it's not really WRONG it's just gross

of course, there are distinctions to be made between what is polite and what is not as well as what is morally right or wrong. a man should not bang a dead chicken in public, but I say, if he acquired that chicken in an otherwise okay way, why shouldnt he be allowed to bang it

now, if he killed it for the express purpose of fucking it, that's just senseless murder-rape ofc

and in a less extreme case, simply being gay doesn't really hurt anyone, so what's the problem with it? more bitches for you anyway
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>>79532298
literally what demographers do and it is the point of census-taking to get those statistics
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>>79512332
>animals do it so it must not be a defect!
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>>79517682
>don't see why they would force that on a child

Then ask all of the faggot liberals that make their kids gay by 7 years old.
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>>79512332
Animals are homosexual when something's seriously the hell wrong with their population. Ever heard of the Calhoun mouse experiments? Sounds more and more like Western civilization every day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun#Mouse_experiments
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>>79532784
So necrophilia is not morally wrong?
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>>79514073
Cannibalism forms naturally

appeals to nature are stupid either way. they're useful to see if a behaviour is truly strange in that it does not exist outside of some specific specimens, but it's not a useful comparison to make to judge moral or economic or strategic worth of something

>>79532963
the original argument is that gayness is unnatural

it is clearly false to say that, because the gay can be found in nature

so is the counter-counter-argument the ol' "I was only pretending to be retarded!"???
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>>79512332
>Homosexuality exists in animals
Ok.

Doesn't mean it's a positive to animals, or that the same applies to humans.

In humans in particular it leads to STD pandemics and a cycle of child sexual abuse.

Does it do that in animals?
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>>79512332
Animals do it as a sign of dominance, to tell the other , "Your my bitch,aswell as all the females here"
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>>79533044
I would say not. nigga's dead, what does he care? if he cared, would you have put him in a sealed box and buried him?

it is really really gross though, I would recommend against doing it. it's also somewhat impolite to the estate. but there's no real harm going on

>>79533032
>muh beautufyull ones ;_;
please go back to >>>/r9k/
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>>79532991
Can you provide sources that show if children adopted by gay couples are more likely to be gay? Didn't think so, stop talking from your ass.

"There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation... As the social visibility and legal status of lesbian and gay parents has increased... concerns about the influence of lesbian and gay parents on children have been often voiced... Results of social science research have failed to confirm these concerns about children of lesbian and gay parents...

Research suggests that sexual identities (including gender identity, gender-role behavior, and sexual orientation) develop in much the same ways among children of lesbian mothers as they do among children of heterosexual parents."
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>>79533335
Alright well I disagree with you completely but at least you don't pretend atheists can have have a morality like most of them do. You're the poster child for why society needs religion imo desu senpai
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>>79532991
>make their kids gay
child abuse is not a facet of homosexuality, my man

child abuse laws are already a thing

>>79533200
this is literally incorrect

>>79533143
>STD pandemics
animals actually have STDs and it's a large part of breeding industries to innoculate and protect against them

you just don't hear about them because most private citizens with pets won't be seeing Fido sleep around enough to get one, assuming Fido even has balls anymore

i cant remember the name of it but there's one among dogs that's basically syphilis but only dogs can get it. Horses can get some nasty pussy problems, and birds have tons of parasites that they trade by slapping cloacas

>and a cycle of child sexual abuse.
lol ok bro take your xanax
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>>79532491
>>79532858
Are we to see every deviation from the census standard as a disease? Posting on /pol/ is not statistically normal either.

>>79533044
It's morally wrong in the sense it desecrates the memories of people related to said dead person. If you got the person's consent to do things with his body, then there's no real moral issue. You can bang Richard Stallman after he dies.

>>79533604
>Y'ALL MOTHAFUCKAS NEED JESUS
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>>79531868
>Who decides what is normal?
The majority does.
If the majority is cis heterosexual, then it is logical that everything else is not normal.

Normal is merely a word used to describe what the majority of any given group is doing or thinks.

In most asian countries it is perfectly normal to eat insects or spiders. Yet eating fried tarantula in a german city café would be considered not normal.
It's all subjective, but at the same time not decided on by any single person.
Stop viewing 'abnormal' as something negative or an insult and accept it as the simple descriptive term it is.
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>>79533746
No seriously.
Fags fuck kids, kids turn gay.
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>>79533590
Because any research on the topic that comes up negative is immediately supressed. Much the same as how all research that shows differences between races is immediately supressed and only research that shows otherwise is allowed to be shown. Literally ALL research on children and their parents shows that children raised without both a mother and a father figure are at a significant disadvantage. They can't specifically show gay couples or it would be illegal
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>>79533604
hey man i dont go murdering and raping people, if anything, it's the very religious that do that. what were the crusades, man

i just believe two things: morality of an action should be dictated by the actual help/harm done by that action (including simply just being grody to others who view or hear of the act)
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>>79533811
>Are we to see every deviation from the census standard as a disease?
No but it's abnormal, which you were claiming it wasn't. Don't try and goalposts change after you were proven wrong

>It's morally wrong in the sense it desecrates the memories of people related to said dead person. If you got the person's consent to do things with his body, then there's no real moral issue. You can bang Richard Stallman after he dies.
All you've done year is show how subjective morality is and confirm it goes beyond "as long as it doesn't hurt someone"

Yall mother fuckers do need Jesus
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>>79533811
>Are we to see every deviation from the census standard as a disease?
no but you morons should shut the fuck up about ":D :D: D IDS NORMAL / IDS NOT NORMAL D: D: D:" as if "normal" means anything other than "most of the group does it"

>>79533875
wew lad I think you might need some antipsychotics or smth

>>79533878
>t-the proof is there, I just don't have it!
so basically you have no proof
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43 % of serial killers are homos, just sayin
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>>79533961
>muh crusades were bad
Dropped.

The point is morality is completely subjective and saying is as simple as not harming someone else is completely opinion thst most would disagree with since there's so many facets of what can harm someone else
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>>79534133
I have proof that children raised without both a mother and father figure are significantly harmed compared to those that are. I do not have proof that this applies specifically to gay couples and not just single parents because thst research Is illegal
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>>79534104
>which you were claiming it wasn't
Actually I was questioning the views of normalcy of >>79530116 and >>79530244 . I agree with the sentiment of >>79534133

>All you've done year is show how subjective morality is and confirm it goes beyond "as long as it doesn't hurt someone"
If you fuck somebody's dead grandpa with them knowing, it probably will cause some psychological damage. If your lover is about to die and agrees to your post-mortem proposal, there shouldn't be anything anyone can really do about it. It's hard to separate morality from legality when it comes to topics like this.
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>>79534490
So things are immoral if they cause psychological damage too?

There you have it then, homosexuality is immoral because of the psychological impact it has on those opposed to it
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