Are there any arguments against homosexuality which don't include religion?
>>79320900
common
>>79320900
That angry straight virgins on 4chan are jealous of us gays for our higher avg incomes and the fact that we get laid more often. Also inb4 aids, new data released today show that 3/4 of new hiv infections are blacks. Whites getting HIV is rather rare nowadays in the U.S.
>>79320900
declining birthrates
Your parents will be disappointed.
>>79320900
Not really when you really think about it. It's a preference, so fair enough. I find the transgender crusade to be a lot more silly.
>>79320900
biology? duh
Its gay
Yeah, it's gay.
>>79320900
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gay-people-more-likely-to-have-mental-health-problems-survey-says-9709761.html
http://www.bpnews.net/11002/homosexuals-more-likely-to-molest-kids-study-reports
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
>the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually
>>79320900
Yeah, it turns men into 14yr old girls with jazz hands
>>79320900
homosexuality serves no purpose outside of hedonism
thus it should not have a special status in the law as it does now.
if people want to be homos on their free time it's their right. but that's about it.
>>79321099
OP said "against" homosexuality
>>79321483
good points
>>79320900
You put your dick where poop is. No wonder aids came from gays.
I don't like the smell of shit covered dick and gaped asshole.
I don't think scientific data supports lower birth rates. It's not as if gay is like a virus, that "people start going gay" and it can spread. Pretty sure the ratio of gays to straight is steady, or can perhaps increase if there is a lack of people of opposite gender (like in prisons etc) in which case it doesn't really affect birth rates either. Could be wrong about this stuff, not a gay scientist or w/e.
Counter arguments I guess is the same that is behind the religious arguments - it's weird and disgusting, and especially effeminate men goes against the ideal of what a man should be.
I can add that I don't care that much personally, just saying what I believe is the reason. Gay kissing or sex is pretty disgusting though imo. Lesbian I don't really care.
>>79321676
I can tell a 16 year old wrote this
>>79321789
Fucking faggot penguins, I never trusted those little fuckers. Glass Antarctica
>>79320900
Poop on willy. ¶₫•ħ/±ķßř1¡¢æ32™
i don't give a flying fuck about your sexual preference and you should keep it to yourself
i don't have a parade where i walk around in some latex bdsm costume and whine about how people are making fun of me for liking bdsm
i shut the fuck up about it because it's none of your business
>>79320900
Poopy dick
>>79321789
>According to Science
>>79321091
Straights don't consider gay sex "getting laid."
What you call "sex" is something we wouldn't wish on our worst enemies.
We don't see gay sex and straight sex as the same thing--getting your rocks off.
Also, you want an argument against homosexuality?
Google image search: rectal prolapse.
>>79321789
>citation needed
>>79321789
>implying implications
I know you're trolling but fuck.
if single people can adopt children (as they can) why the need for special laws for gays ?
it's just giving them special unneeded status
also >>79321415
gays actually make worse parents than single parents do.
but seriously, why the need to do something straight couple do ?
are they maybe not assuming their lifestyle ?
>>79322055
Yes, why else would it appear at the same rate in so many other animals? Trans is an illness, though.
>>79321789
>animals have the same standards and reasons for said standards that humans do
>pic related
Animals that can't breed are worthless according to nature.
>>79322116
So you're saying a single penguin makes a better parent than two same sex penguins??
>>79320900
Are you stupid? What does"against homosexuality" mean? How is this a political issue?
>>79321905
There is a difference between hot lesbos you get in porn, and the boot faced, lard arse, sjw harridans you get IRL.
>>79321789
So according to science gay people are cucks?
Well gays do spread a ton of diseases.
That island near Greece which is basically populated solely by homos? Absolutely filled to the brim with AIDS and it's no coincidence.
>>79322217
>not reading the pic I posted
>>79321309
>>79321297
Came here only to write that.
No kids, poop dick, half take it up the ass like a woman, aids.
>>79321789
Okay, let's make cannibalism legal too :^)
>>79321925
No, now fuck off leaf.
>>79321789
Doesn't make sense. If the penquins were hetrosexual they could just reproduce their own childen instead of adopting which continues the species even more.
>>79320900
Homosexuals tend to have higher IQs, so it still makes sense for them to have children. However, lack of a proper mother figure can have a negative effect on children.
>>79320900
It's not good for you're ass
>>79320900
yes, biology
penis are made to vaginas
there are only 2 sexes
>>79321789
also fuck
>very important
while it's true that 1k+ species have faggotry, the percentage of their pop that is homosexual is still anecdotic
which makes homosexuals irrelevant when it comes to survival.
more so when they are individuals that can't reproduce as they are homos.
they literally cannot participate in the survival of an animal specie
and finally
>>79322265
>comparing animals to humans
animals eat their young, are you saying we should to ?
I know you're baiting m8, but pls stop I can't take it
>>79321091
it happened..a right wing faggot! literally!
>>79321415
hmm maybe lgbtq have mental illness bc they were raised in a society that can be outright hostile to them? Shit can be traumatic
>>79322348
>better to be a dicktaker than gay
>>79321925
Well I'm 29 and I don't like the smell of shit or asshole either.
I don't even like fucking beautiful girls in the ass, let alone a hairy dude with a big hairy man-ass full of big dude farts.
I don't know how women find men attractive, I certainly can't imagine how gays do.
>>79322265
#penguinpride
>>79322373
Grow up
>>79322426
Hetero are too busy raising their own
>>79320900
Biology.
>epidemic level std transmission
Speaks for itself
>more likely to beg gay if sexually abused as a child
Suggests you're not born this way
>more likely to abuse children in the future if abused as a child
Suggests by extension gays are more likely to abuse children
>extremely high rate of homosexual tendencies in pedophiles
>extremely more likely to abuse drugs or have other mental issues.
These rates are similar regardless of how acceptable homosexual are in the culture of the country, meaning it can't be blamed on them being treated bad
Gays spread desiases in epic proportions. They're very much tied to child abuse. There is strong correlation that they aren't born that way and it can be influenced by outside factors and it's strongly tied to other mental disorders and subtance abuse. Not to mention the fact it's simply unnatural.
In short, it's a mental disorder or at the very least a perversion, not a legitimate life style.
>>79321297
This
>>79322322
Lesbos?
>>79322471
we are animals you mongoloid
>>79320900
it's pretty gay.
>>79322543
>29 and on 4chan
>>79321483
actually, you don't understand.
heterosexuals are merely vessels for the propagation of the homosexual master race. homosexuals don't exist merely to breed like farm animals, instead homosexuals bear the burden of forging higher purpose for the human race. it's truly a gift.
>>79320900
>Are there any arguments against homosexuality which don't include religion?
This is exactly why homosexuality is bad.
Most of you will spit in God's face and want to throw religion completely to the wayside.
Why do you hate the loving entity which created your eternal soul?
>>79322597
>all gay Penguins were molested
>>79320900
Yes, muh feels
>>79320900
need to say no more
Pussy and tits. Gays do have more sex though, which is great. I don't want to find sources ATM.
pussy ftw
>>79321465
>implying jazz hands are a bad thing
>>79322615
oh that explains why I can just go beat on other males to assert dominance on the local human pack and have my choice of females
>>79322347
I did.
Anglerfish comic was the response Leaf.
>>79321997
For the covenant!
WORT WORT WORT
>>79320900
Yes, it's degenerate and destroys society by preventing propper families. Culture evolved out of what made a civilization steong and you want to abandon that strength for your own pleasure.
Also gay couples are like 6x more likely to molest their adopted and real kids than straight couples. That's just fucking wrong.
No adoption, no promoting homosexuality.
However, I have no problem with all other equality efforts, gays should not be allowed to be fired or evicted or denied spousal medical rights etc. None of that shit hurts society so I don't give a fuck.
>>79320900
>during wartime
go look up operation suzanna and emberass
you act like both.
>>79322427
>two fags
>not having a mother figure
>>79320900
homosexuality in and of itself? no.
homosexual culture? yes. the culture homosexuality has brought with it is very closely paired with marxism. self-objectivism is very common in gay people, they feel like they can let their body be used because they get fed that submission is desirable. this causes utterly degenerate slutiness.
homosexual culture has caused straight culture to do hook-ups more often as well. since the gay lobby wants to stress that being open and free about your sexuality without any consequences should be totally okay. if you ask me, someone should face consequences for not keeping their private life to themselves.
they should however not face consequences for keeping to themselves. any laws that try to counter private homosexuality are more worthless than laws against alcohol. it's trying to fight something that can't be fought.
homosexuality is okay. pride parades are not.
>>79320900
Axiom for further societal degeneracy. Liberalism as a perpetual reformist ideology will never stop just at homosexuality, hence the line has to be drawn somewhere, but the further you go from normalized sexual behavior the more fringe weird and repugnant you go.
The slippery slope is real, the swedish liberal youth party recently tried to make necrophilia and incest legal.
>>79322471
That's one of the biggest issues, homos have opted out of contributing to the evolution of the species by effectively removing their genetic material from the gene pool. Faggots.
>>79322815
>not understanding that homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom and there's a logical reason for it to exist
>not having compassion
>>79320900
It's degenerate.
Homosexuality is a mental disorder
Imagine people were in favor of "Cancer Rights", so they wanted everyone to accept and love cancer patients and would hate and ostracize people who wanted to cure it.
>>79322787
that's literally an illustration of a woman
>>79322304
Maybe you should learn the definition of cuckoldry before hitting that little post button, Sam.
>>79322495
Maybe pedophiles are pedophiles because of something tramatic in their childhood?
Who gives a fuck. That doesn't mean they should be tolerated.
>>79322704
bugger off you wanker
>>79322735
Not an argument
>>79322985
Further reinforcing the fact that these people are either 16 or manchildren. Embarrassing
>>79322668
I'm also 29
Problem newfags?
>>79323057
Yes it is, are you retarded?
>>79322471
I don't feel like reading it because I can recognize pile of shit trying to pass as post by looking at it but I'm going to feed you with (You)'s anyway. Also...
>A fucking Medpack
>>79322973
I agree that homosexuality is a mental disorder, but people with mental disorders do not need to be treated differently provided they don't need to be. I don't need extra rights, I don't want to be part of your fucking lobby. Just let me suck dick and don't be up my ass about it.
Really identity wars are the most insulting things the left uses as an argument.
>>79321415
Anyone gay man who grows up in a society and experiences pervasive implicit or explicit messages tells him how he feels is 'wrong' will possibly pick up mental health problems. Doesn't seem like an argument, but a good observation surely.
>>79320900
PROLAPSE
>>79323118
lel
thank you for the (you) almost-russia !
>>79323113
No. It's literally not an argument against what I said. Are you retarded?
>>79323170
I would gladly not give a fuck about you sucking dicks, but if there is a way to prevent it from happening to a son of mine, I wouldn't hesitate in curing him.
>>79323113
All gay penguins are molested is an argument? Care to even offer a little proof to back up your "argument"?
>>79323307
So you're saying that gay penguins must have been molested to be gay?
>>79323170
Erm... Isn't the whole point to have stuff up your ass?
>>79320900
>Homosexuals have a higher incident of mental illness, including attempted and successful suicides
>Homosexual offspring is more likely to be mentally ill
>Homosexuals are more likely to be targeted and bullied/murdered
>Homosexuals are more likely to have sexually transmitted diseases
Source: I'm a homosexual
>>79322597
nobody is born any sexuality. that's retarded.
they knew this back in the 19th century. kids don't start growing their sexuality until they're in their teens. I wouldn't doubt that pedophilia can stunt this growth.
it's also why transsexual kids are a total farce. kids are kids, nothing more.
also, I don't doubt that pedophiles are more likely to be gay. usually sexual deviants spread to every little protection group they can so that they can live out their deviancy unharmed.
that does not mean that every gay guy is a deviant.
no true scotsman
>>79320900
Its degeneracy, its unnatural, it has no place in society, yet its being promoted by all the retard groups.
A few. They're all varying flavours of uncompelling, which is why homosexual acceptance is so widespread. They fall into the following categories.
1. it's unnatural/unholy
This argument is a religious argument - yes, even the people who say "but it goes against the way humans should work". The fact of the matter is that there is nothing that humans are "supposed" to do - not even procreate. We can procreate. We do procreate. Most of us want to procreate. None of that means that we should. Nor am I saying we shouldn't. Procreation is something that happens - it is not inherently good. Just because it is, doesn't mean it ought. So this argument is the same as religious arguments: "I believe that ____ therefore homosexuality is bad."
2. it's unhealthy for individuals
This argument is the most compelling, because there are elements of truth to it. Homosexuality is a risk factor for all kinds of unpleasantness, ranging from AIDS to suicide. The problem here is that although homosexuality is a risk factor that we can use to predict cases, it is not the causal factor. You don't contract AIDS because you're homosexual, you contract it through unprotected sex. You don't kill yourself because you're homosexual, you do it because you're alienated and alone. Homosexuality is a good predictor, and I'm not saying the statistics are wrong. The problem is that being a risk factor is not the same as being a causal factor.
3. it's unhealthy for society
This argument is semi-compelling. I could go into a long paragraph about how most people who put forward this argument themselves partake in equally or more unhealthy activity and are thus hypocrites who pursue this argument out of convenience (I want to yell at homos and this argument gives me a way to do that) instead of principle, undermining their shrill claims that they're not bigots.... but!. I could also say that as per 2 homosexuality predicts illness but is not the cause.
Suffice to say that it's a free country.
>>79320900
Are there any arguments for homosexuality that isn't just muh love is love and muh feels
>>79320900
Gays are alright, they should be more anti-muslim though
>>79323559
"People aren't born any sexuality" what the fuck does that even mean?
>>79321670
Instead of sick where blood is. No wonder there's straight aids
>>79320900
>biological
>can't breed if it's not male and female
>>79323398
I'm saying that if you are molested you are more likely to turn out gay than if you weren't molested, and this is objective and backed up by evidence.
You are the one talking about penguins as though it were an argument against this (it is not an argument against this)
>>79323316
I understand that you want grandchildren. I want children too. You need to realize though, that if you're too set on not making your son gay you might accidentally cause the opposite effect by not allowing him to sexually mature on his own terms.
I've met a lot of gay guys who have the "fuck my parents" attitude.
>>79320900
wouldn't the fact anal sex between 2 men only produces prolapsed anuses and no children be the case closed o n that one?
>>79323711
>Anyone who can't or doesn't want to reproduce is useless to society
>not understanding how society functions
>>79323711
>it needs to breed
homosexuality is actually found to occur more often in higher population densities
>>79323756
Further evidence it is influenced by outside factors and is more akin to a disorder or perversion than legitimate lifestyle
>>79320900
i like homosexuality. I think it's a good thing that the inferior are accepting a beta role and being content with it. I hope conservative homosexuals adopt, but i won't think less of them if they don't. Liberal homosexuals should be barred from adopting simply because liberal homosexuals are almost always extremely degenerate.
>>79322077
>gay sex is gross
then don't do it, I don't see how it has anything to do with you if you're not going to do it anyway
>>79323678
that kids don't think about sex besides it being a biological factor. anything else is cultural.
before the great wars, kids would be treated the same regardless of gender until they got into puberty.
>>79323862
Homosexuality is Gay
>>79323728
Being molested makes you more likely to be a pedophile. The statistics are skewed because female pedophiles aren't as common or as reported. I bet you there's a link between being a pedophile and having been molested as a boy by a man and being attracted to make children as a result. Not the other way around, you fucking retard
>>79322681
Kek, faggots think they're a master race. A master race that dies within one generation. The only way to continue your kind is to adopt & indoctrinate our young. How the hell is that supreme when the youth don't even carry your genes?
>>79322286
Thank you. That's something that I've been trying to figure out for years. The Left politicizes a bunch of random bullshit that isn't political at all. Mandatory contraceptives has to be the most ridiculous.
Social Identity politics are utterly inane, because they're such narcissistic stances that don't really benefit anybody save for the supposedly oppressed niche.
>>79323170
Finally, a faggot who's actually sane. What I can't stand about fags is how I'm supposed to treat them as if they're some higher breed of human. Although gays are losing their oppression points in favor of transgenders who are even worse. Tranny faggots obviously chose their sexuality at a whim. While I believe that gays also made a choice, there is more of a case of them simply being born retarded. Trannys just want attention and the degenerate West gives it to them.
>>79320900
It is a hormonal disease.
>>79320900
easy defining your identify purely through what you do sexually is degenerate. it is also an abomination of nature. i personally think these traits are the result of defective genes resulting in mental and phisological changes which cause homosexuality. i also apply this as the reason for transgenderism. i don't want to kill these people who are victims of bad luck but i won't normalise or promote the symtoms of defects. that's like pandering and entering into the delussional reality of a mentality ill person. although they think and perceive it as ok it is still objectively flawed and frankly reality doesn't pander to either your ego and feelings. so in many ways these people are mentally broken.
>>79322981
Okey
Here's an image of a male, Happy?
>>79323663
Mate, go on /lgbt/, we fucking hate muslims, now more than ever
>>79323900
being gay has nothing to do with lifestyle and anyone who tries to tell you so knows nothing about it.
though, I'm bisexual so I might be biased. I've only ever been in 1 relationship so don't get the wrong idea about me either.
My childhood has been completely normal. I come from a functional family and still ended up being "stunted" in your eyes. How do you explain my attraction to men coming from outside factors?
I agree that it can influence it though.
>>79323929
>not knowing about Trans kids
>not knowing about the little boy that had his dick removed by botched circumcision
They raised the boy as a girl and he still acted like a boy.
>>79323983
Being molested makes you more likely to be gay. This is my argument. You have no argument against this so you're talking about penguins and calling me a retard lmao.
>>79323559
I grew up with a friend that later became homo, way before his 8 years he had notably feminine features and everyone knew he would become gay.
>>79323862
>Not an Argument
OP asked for any objections that aren't religious.
I gave him one.
>MFW you didnt check those dubs
>>79320900
It doesn't make scientific sense. It cannot be genetic, or it would've been bred out of humanity over enough generations. Unless it's a relatively recent and random mutation, it has to be environmental, which indicates mental illness rather than lifestyle choice.
Therefore, my distaste for it is mixed with pity, because they can't help themselves and are instead reinforced and enabled by the people around them.
>>79324117
believe me, I've done a lot of things to my ass and you wouldn't be able to tell from the outside.
>>79324140
Used to be bi, but was cured by Jesus, and he also helped me quit fapping, have been fap free for about three months
>>79324201
It makes you more likely to be a pedophile. Just so happens most molesters are male, so that as a kid, being molested by a man fucks with your brain. And thus you repeat the cycle of abuse.
You're retarded if you think being gay = being a pedophile
>>79324149
I know, but that wasn't the kid's fault.
>>79324260
>It doesn't make scientific sense.
It happens in the animal world, especially under overpopulation conditions.
>>79324308
>You're retarded if you think being gay = being a pedophile
being gay = more likely to be a pedophile. Once again backed by evidence
>>79324311
Completely does away with your notion that kids can't identify or act according to their sexes regardless of how they are raised. You've contributed absolutely nothing, who's next?
>>79324293
I don't masturbate often. Really only do it because I don't want prostate cancer. I think you can be conditioned to convert back to heterosexuality, just like the opposite can be done. That doesn't mean that it has a 100% success rate, or that people won't fall back to their old habits.
>>79322958
>not understanding that assert dominance is common in the animal kingdom and there is a logical reason for it to exist
>not understanding that infanticide is common in the animal kingdom and there is a logical reason for it to exist
>not understanding that rape is common in the animal kingdom and there is a logical reason for it to exist
>compassion in the animal kingdom
>>79324398
No, being a pedophile makes you more likely to be gay. Not the other way around, because pedophilia is due to how you're raised and what you experience. Not how you're born, like homosexuality, you fucking moron
>>79323626
No it's not
>>79320900
Reproduction, STDs (anal penetration is risky)
literally halting progress for society
>>79324398
This logic is just the same as "if you're white you're more likely to go to college" i.e 'white privilege' rhetoric that you all hate so much
>another one of these threads
can't wait to post this thread killer image again and see how many fags refuse respond because they want to role play like faggotry is ok.
If you care about this issue read this and it will change your mind. If you don't then get out of the thread.
>>79324432
but I never said any of that
>>79324528
Being abused as a child increases your likely to being gay. Meaning, it's not how you're born, you fucking faggot
>>79324527
>not understanding how human beings evolved
>being this socially retarded
>>79324398
Reminds me of the old joke: what have broccoli and anal sex got in common? You won't like it as an adult if you were forced to have it as a child.
>>79320900
Aids. And poop is gross
>>79324065
i should point out that some choose to be alternative in the homosexuality. i believe these people lack the intelligence to overcome the base messages they absorb and are weak minded. we used to have social conventions to keep people like this on (execuse the pun) the stright and norrow. when we thought with our tiny brains we knew better and everything became subjective it all turnt to shit.
oh also the instances of hiv are highest among queers and niggers both of which bring this on themselves through their actions. to open to infection and to act in conflict with self preservation is degenerate and hense homosexuality is wrong.
>>79320900
the argument i've always used is that i've just never wanted to fuck another man
>>79324520
Have you put your trust in Christ? It worked for me
>>79323711
>>79324233
This is why you respect the dubs
>>79323825
>>79323862
There are biological reasons why being gay is bad
>>79324590
none of those arguments explain why it would be immoral
>>79324627
Show me the stats on that, because I know girls that are pedos at more likely to be lesbian pedos if they were molested by a woman.
Again, pedophilia is usually because of your specific experience and how your brain rationalizes it. You are dense. There is no link towards being gay and being a pedophile. None. You're forcing the logic because you're a moron
>>79320900
I don't care if faggots fuck faggots. But I am against homo marriage as a government institution.
The purpose of marriage in the government, which provides a number of economic benefits, is to encourage you to reproduce - creating more tax paying citizens who will hopefully contribute to the state and its prosperity.
Faggots don't do this. So they should not be granted the economic benefits, as they contribute nothing in return. Homo marriage is parasitic on the state.
>>79324807
I'm sorry. I've tried, but I'm really unable to believe in deity. I suppose you could say I'm atheist but not by choice. I was raised catholic and I've never felt anything towards god. Call me hedonistic if you want, it's just how it is.
>>79324641
how they evolved?
being faggots?
>>79324848
Saying something is immoral implies a standard for morality, what is the standard
>>79320900
Homosexuality is adverse to society. Not only does heterosexuality create humans and advance the species but it's been scientifically proven that heterosexual couples raise the most successful offspring while single parents or homosexual parents tend to raise kids with mental disorders or other defective traits.
>>79320900
Has anyone got those caps from that thread where a bunch of gays were going on about their fetish of infecting others with HIV?
>>79320900
Well, a much higher risk of STDs (and HIV) would be a good argument. The extremely high rate of infidelity/promiscuity also comes to mind.
Other than that, homosexuality in and of itself isn't the problem. Attention seeking fags are. The ones who aren't content with buggering another man and living a normal, ordered life.
If homosexuality is something you're born as it would mean that a lot of people for some reason carry a self-termination code in their genes.
>>79324627
I also gurantee being fucked by dogs as a kid is more likely to make you into bestiality
Now can you explain to me how the fuck you even know that all homos were molested? what about the ones that weren't? What the fuck is wrong with you, you're like a flat earther
>>79325042
I meant more that it was calling homosexuals out on immoral things that aren't necessarily traits tied to homosexuality.
Just because a lot of homosexuals act a certain way doesn't mean that the act is /inherently/ immoral.
>>79320900
You are literally sticking your dick into the same hole shit comes out of, that's fucking gross.
>>79320900
Unprotected buttsex increases the likely hood of disease transmission.
Thats all I got. Use condoms people.
>>79324940
I'm implying there's a link between childhood abuse and being gay, because there is a strong link based on every study conducted on the topic, and I'm using this link to imply you are not born that way. A strong correlation suggesting it can be influenced by outside factors and trauma during childhood means it's not something you're born with. You're goalpost changing and desperately trying to change this to some other point because you have no argument against it because you're a moron and also a faggot.
>>79325369
stop taking that lady gaga song seriously
>>79325019
You don't understand that human being evolved empathy and social awareness because they depended on one another for survival? The fact that a homosexual couple that wasn't already burdened with raising a child was able to adopt an orphan can't seem to get through your dense fucking skull as being vital to survival of our species?
>>79325210
>I also gurantee being fucked by dogs as a kid is more likely to make you into bestiality
This would suggest that bestiality is not something you're born with. Which is my argument
>Now can you explain to me how the fuck you even know that all homos were molested? what about the ones that weren't? What the fuck is wrong with you, you're like a flat earther
none of this is an argument against what I said
Also you're a faggot. I'm going to continue to add this to all my posts because you seem to think insults are an argument, so this must further prove my point in your mind.
>>79322806
>implying it stops at hands
>>79324978
Well the Catholic part can be the problem, the turned Christianity into a government control system, they don't even teach biblical Christianity
Romans 1:18-22
God has revealed himself to you in a way you can be certain of his existence, the problem is that we have a sinful nature that causes us to suppress this truth. But we will still be held accountable for our sins against a just and holy God,
The only way you can escape this judgement is repent and put your trust in Christ
John 3
>>79325369
I AM SAYING THAT PEDOPHILES ACT OUT THE SAME THINGS THEY WERE ABUSED AS YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER THERE IS NOTHING TO SUGGEST BIOLOGICALLY THAT NATURALLY OCCURING HOMOSEXUALS ARE MORE LIKELY TO MOLEST CHILDREN YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>79322495
The United States is not homophobic. Since the 90's gay kids have been treated like special snowflakes who can do no wrong.
>>79321297
Well. It looks like I'm not needed here.
>>79325582
I believe the teachings of the bible are something worth taking to heart. I just don't believe in a higher power.
>>79325120
>buggering another man
>living a normal life
Pick one
They all boil down to "I think it's gross," which is just as weak
>>79325639
I'm not talking about gays being pedophiles in any of the posts you're replying to. I'm saying that if you're molested you are more likely to come out gay, which means it's not something you're born with naturally and more akin to a perversion or a disorder. This is not an argument against that
You fucking faggot
>>79325536
Pedophiles ARE PREDATORS CHILDREN DONT HAVE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEEN THE SEXES BIOLOGICALLY WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU IT ISNT ABOUT BEING A BOY OR A GIRL ITS ABOUT BEING VULNERABLE NOW KILL YOURSELF
>>79325211
How does one decide moral and immoral actions though, at an individual level it's no different than saying you like vanilla over chocolate ice cream.
At a societal level, homosexuality would only be moral if the government approved it so NSDAP Germany would say homosexuality is immoral, while modern Europe would say it is moral
>>79325582
Well I'll be buggered, I didn't know that...
>>79325120
>Other than that, homosexuality in and of itself isn't the problem. Attention seeking fags are. The ones who aren't content with buggering another man and living a normal, ordered life.
Enough. There's too much inclusion / exclusion going on in /pol/. "Such and such is fine, but fuck these such and suches." This shit is getting predictable and it's garbage.
Gender doesn't matter, sexuality doesn't matter, race doesn't matter. What matters is you live in a country that promotes freedom (socially and economically) and that you assist your neighbors with said goal. I'm tired of these bullshit social issues overtakung conversation when our economies are hanging by a thread and our governments are getting insane with surveilance.
>>79320900
It's icky
>>79320900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrmccJkfApg
The full documentary is on Youtube as well. You'll get to see how mentally ill the average fag is.
>>79325887
You are fucking ill and legitimately learning impaired, when was the last time you left your basement?
>>79325762
It says that you have some knowledge of God,
>>79325988
This is not an argument against the fact homosexuality is influenced by outside factors and therefore not something you're born with and instead more akin to a disorder, you fucking faggot who should kill himself
>>79326148
God isn't real
I feel like I know too many people that have chosen to be gay, have experienced some sort of trauma or other psychological issues that allows them to be gay. I'm sure that it is some people's nature and I'm sure a lot more people have been nurtured into that life style.
Do what you want buddy, by why the need to make an entire identity out of your sexual desires? I love getting blowjob, I prefer them to sex, am I some sort of "felatiosexual"? No I am not, I'm just a dude who likes blow jobs. Are you some sort of homosexual? no you're a dude who is accepting of or prefers having sexual relations with dudes. Why does that fact have to be the corner stone of your life? why do you have to wave it around and make all of your political decisions based on the fact you like manbutt?
who cares what you do behind closed doors? Keep it there, LIKE EVERY OTHER NORMAL PERSON IN THE FUCKING WORLD DOES.
Well, /pol/?
>>79326046
>>79326007
Glad I could help
>>79326125
>Implying anyone in /pol/ isn't an autistic basement dweller
>>79320900
STD's
higher rate of domestic violence (especially in women)
bring about collapse of cultures where they are revered
>>79326206
What ever helps you sleep at night
>>79320900
It's ugly.
>>79326203
ONCE AGAIN: KILL YOURSELF. Pedophiles copy what happened to them. Physically there's little difference between a little boy and girl. It's psychological. Pedophile molested = pedophile going after what reminds him/her of the experience because bein molested fucks your brain up. It has absolutely nothing to do with being born gay and all the more to do with becoming a predator. If you are seriously unable to understand this, you're fucking retarded
>>79325988
Fags argue even worse than women what the...
>>79326405
Being born with sexual depravity is consistent with original sin
Same as being a natural born killer
>>79326252
>projecting this hard
>>79326125
This is not an argument
>>79326405
This is not an argument against my claim either. Let me say it again to help you.
If you are molested you are more likely to be gay. This means homosexuality.is is influenced by outside factors. This means it's more akin to a perversion or a disorder. Oh yeah and you're a faggot and should kill yourself or what ever.
>>79320900
>Are there any arguments against homosexuality which don't include religion?
Sure. Your body was designed for homosexual sex.
its against nature.
>>79326004
talking about the value of morality kind of destroys the point of discussing it.
>>79326560
Fuck off with your religibabble
>>79324590
It's a laundry list of pseudo scientific talking points in a professional looking format. It starts with a bogus definition of what mentally ill is. Mental illness isn't tied to biologically necessary desires. What nature wants isn't an intrinsic component to good mental health.
But personally I think the long post is ignored cause it just looks like garbage.
>>79326621
You're genuinely mentally ill, I recommend socializing a lot more and perhaps getting professional help. Seriously, you're like one of those tinfoil hobos that thinks Martians live in his asshole, you're sick
>>79326673
What you gonna do about it
>>79324590
Aaaand predictably no responses. You people obviously don't care about this topic enough so I'm out.
>>79326774
This is not an argument
>>79326786
Religion is worthless, go fuck yourself
Seriously is this place full of kids or what
>>79321415
>>79322495
>>79323239
Yea I remember that time when I got bullied so much that I became a pedophile.
Fucking morons.
>>79326774
You new here?
>>79320900
It's unnatural, it spreads more diseases, gay men and women are more prone to psychological defects, depression, drug use, suicide, etc.
What's the argument FOR homosexuality? Instead of asking me to defend my stance against something unnatural why don't you argue your stance for something that is?
>>79326658
Not if there is a moral standard that is objective, the only problem is that without a moral law giver, there can be no objective morality.
>>79326870
You haven't presented an argument either, you are delusional and sick and twist reality to fit your messed up opinions.
You are intellectually incapable of understanding the difference between homosexuality and being a sexually damaged predator. Go and fuck your self
>>79327042
right. so when you discuss whether something is moral or not, you're talking about your personal preference. sharing your personal preference can influence other people's morality.
>>79326903
Yeah there called fedoras, why do you suppress the truth, you could be saved today
>>79320900
Being gay (me) has some advantages, mostly socially, although I always use them to red pill people at any given opportunity.
I'm proud of being gay but not being gay its self, mostly for just capitalizing with it and using my homosexuality to appear a feminist but subtly shoe-horn right wing politics and dismiss low hanging fruit topics with no economical weight through the simple use of economic fact sheeting everything and explaining 'Da Joo's'.
Ask me anything. Also not a feminine fag although at heart I am, the personality sacrifice for a better tomorrow is worth it /pol/acks
>>79327140
So if somebody wanted to ship off homosexuals to a concentration camp, you have no objective basis to say that is wrong, all you can say is I don't like that
>>79327234
Do you agree there are elements of mental illness with being gay?
>>79327043
If you are molested as a child you are more likely to grow up homosexual. This means homosexuality is influenced by outside factors and trauma and not entorely something you're born with. This means it's more akin to a fetish or a perversion or a disorder.
This is my argument. Still waiting for your counter argument.
>>79323239
I went through life being told to not hurt people though I really feel it's right, or to work hard and not be lazy though I don't think that's right either. I'm now a psychotic. Thanks, society!
>>79327349
Except human morality is based on our evolution. We have empathy to help one another because as a species we aren't the biggest or strongest and needed to rely on one another for our survival. You do good things because the impulse to help is ultimately selfish. Society comes together to fill in the more nebulous morals. That's how humanity works, if you're unable to understand that, you are a fucking retard
>>79327349
exactly. all I can share with you is my own moral objection. however, people with the same morals tend to stick together.
yet, wanting to ship off homosexuals still doesn't explain why homosexuality in itself is immoral. all you can say is I don't like that
>>79327499
>if you are molested as a child
If you are molested by a man, you are more likely to
Emulate the experience and become a sexual predator.
Once again, you're fucking stupid
>>79327588
then why do some cultures have a completely different idea of morals than others? why did we consider the aztec slaughtering rituals cruel while they considered it honorable? there's no clear line and although you could argue that they evolved differently, I do think it's a mostly cultural thing
>>79327729
>If you are molested by a man, you are more likely to
Emulate the experience and become a sexual predator.
you're also more likely to be gay.
Once again, this isn't an argument.
>>79327588
So when pol pot shot his citizens that wore glasses, was he morally right or wrong by evolutionary standards
>>79327499
>not realizing there's little physical difference between a 5 year old boy or girl, so that the argument that homosexual pedophiles are homosexual isn't even relevant anyway because it's about predation and exploitation and power, not about gender
I bet you're a pedophile btw since you seem so fixated by it
>>79327729
(You)
(You)
(You)
>>79320900
/fit/ is full of shitposting and tripfaggotry nowadays, there´s no better argument than that
>>79327913
Wrong because he went against human empathy.
>>79320900
biological fact
two men can't produce offspring
lets see you faggots argue against biological facts
you cant
i win
fuck off
sage
>>79321297
/thread
>>79327657
Exactly it comes down to might makes right, but we as human beings don't live or act in that way, because we know there is a moral standard and a sense of justice, and every time We say that was wrong or that was right, we verify Gods existence
>>79327963
none of that was an argument about what I said
If you're molested you're more likely to turn out gay, not just a pedophile, but none pedophile gay
If it was normal, people of the same sex would be able to procreate.
>>79328132
Reproduction isn't a good in and of itself.
>>79327499
>If you are molested as a child you are more likely to grow up homosexual. This means homosexuality is influenced by outside factors and trauma and not entorely something you're born with.
yes
>This means it's more akin to a fetish or a perversion or a disorder.
no, this is just your personal belief. homosexuality is as much of a disorder as a girl being good at math
>>79327829
most cultures never promoted killing literally everything around them, or else we wouldn't be here would we? Religion and superstition can warp minds and lead to travesties yes. Becau
>>79328226
Holy shit you didn't even try to make that sentence make sense.
>>79320900
Putting a cock up your arse.
>>79326941
I like how the source on that study is a site called the fucking Baptist Press. And in the very same article it says 'According to the FBI and several clinical studies published in reputable journals, gay men aren't more likely to sexually abuse boys, she said.'
God /pol/ is fucking retarded sometimes.
>>79328136
so you're saying God is a culmination of the collective human spirit? I like that idea
>>79328199
At this point I just think you're fucking with me so I'm done talking to you. I sincerely hope you get mental help though, must be sad being so delusional and bitter.
>>79328299
>homosexuality is as much of a disorder as a girl being good at math
no, this is just your personal belief
>>79328085
So human empathy is the objective moral standard?
>>79328327
Good ol' Straya shitposting
>>79328446
This guy....
>>79328446
this isn't an argument. Congratulations on never managing to come up with a single argument against someone you claim is an idiot. I sincerely think you're a faggot though.
>>79328301
yes but ostracizing a minority group is an act to protect the greater normality around you. whether this is moral or not is completely debatable.
Fuck gay marriage...
Otherwise homosexuals are pretty okay.
BTW, marriage is religion.
>>79328402
No but we are made in the image of God, so we have a sense of justice, even though it's a little warped, but the fact that we have this sense of justice shows that we are made in the image of a Just God
>>79320900
Sore bum
>>79327499
This binary argument is really tiresome, human psychology is much more complex than a matter of its either a result of your environment or your genetics, its clearly a combination of both as is pretty much everything from your personality to your 'intelligence'. You are putting homosexuality in a box with fetishes and disorders and the like is incorrect because you have only spotted a correlation and identified it as the causation.
>>79328505
Yeah, because if you don't have empathy, it means you're psychotic. Problem is, religion can warp minds and convince people that doing a bad thing is good.
