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Deutsche Bank fails US stress test


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>http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36669886

I really, really would like to know how are we going to make this shit up. Because somebody is going to have to pay for this potential happening and my money is starting to feel so insecure that it's posting in /r9k/.

Seriously, this is not a happening like some muslim blowing himself at the airport, but still maybe we should talk about this a little, because if Deutsche Bank goes to shit, then all of you european posters can run, but can't hide.

Even if you're feeling safe because "muh brexit", don't.
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Some extra info:

>http://in.reuters.com/article/deutsche-bank-imf-idINKCN0ZG1WW

>http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/deutsche-bank-tumbles-near-record-lows-yield-curve-crashes

>http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-shares-tumbled-to-a-30-year-low-after-fed-imf-rebuke-1467278856
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Also, for all those people who love Soros:

>http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/06/28/how-billionaire-george-soros-profited-from-brexits-black-friday/#2a4124181e2a
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This is it boys.

Deutsche Bank has 50 times more debt than what all of Germany is worth. If this sucker blows up, it's lights out.
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Merkel and his transformer must be on suicide watch, praying to Allah to fix this shit.
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Shameless bump because you need to pay attention to this senpai.
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Well, at least I tried, fuck you all when Deutsche finally blows and good luck.
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>>79305495
Bye bye EU, Germany is going to cause the next recession in Europe after this bubble bursts.

But it'll be alright, I mean we've always come out fine after Germany has been reduced to hyperinflation and breadlines right?
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>>79305183
This seem to be another consolidation attack on our economy just like VW recently. Amerifats shitting their pants again German economy is getting too strong.
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>>79306760
No it's because you are literally a muslim army now.
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>>79306521

this time we'll make it.
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>>79306521
>this time muslims bomb the breadlines
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>>79306878
You guys are literally economically retarded if you think Deutsche Bank could be in danger, you don't get its setup
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>>79305183
germany just can't catch a break
>frexit next
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>>79306760
VW smoke was a joke compared to this.

Trillions of derivatives, 1.1$ I think.

>>79306521
The problem is that the problem don't stays in Germany, they nationalize Deutsche and that's all, the problem is a potential systemic fall, like 2008 but more fun.
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>>79306521
>>79306915
CRASHING THIS UNION WITH NO SURVIVORS

just to rebuild the Reich
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>>79305183
where should we find refuge for you EUROs? I don't want to lose them and I stacked too much gold already
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#Gerxit when
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>>79307163
trillions $*

Wew
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>>79306521
Reminder Germany was merely unaffected by the global recession unlike every other developed country
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>>79305183
Germany will use its 4th Reich... I mean EU to make all the members of the EU to pay for the deutsche bank disaster.
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>>79307039
> have master plan
> nobody understands it
> muh master race
> Gets fucked up so bad you feel guilty for it 60 years later
> It's different now guys

Germs don't learn ...
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>>79307349
Good luck -- EU just had its credit rating cut
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>>79305183
>tfw Germany getting BTFO on all fronts
nice
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>>79307175

if they only knew that the refugees are needed to fuel the bell.
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>>79306760
I hate both of your countries, and mine would surely suffer due to the demise of yours, but I just don't give a fuck anymore. I would gladly suffer economic turmoil if it meant you will be a nation of homeless starving nazis.
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So what happens if NaziBank goes under?
War in Europe, again is it?
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>>79305183
If DB fails, expect worldwide mega habbenin, Lehman brothers tier
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>>79307561
About time.
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>>79307463
It seems like the UK got out just in time. I wonder if they are going to make them pay for this upcoming disaster as well since they are still technically part of the EU for the next 2 years IF they file for article 5 already.
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>>79305183
It's not bad, this might cause Germany to try and inflate the debts away.

It would be good for South Europe, inflation isn't bad if you have more debt than assets.
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>>79307406
>Bergjude being mad
Go eat a Schnitzel for 20 Franken and stop shopping here
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What would this mean for poor countries that already rely on Germany for their infrastructure?

Would there be a total collapse of Europe if it fails?
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>>79307544
This won't happen Slobodan, first off our economy is basically born to restart and we always rise if we fall like a Phoenix from the ashes
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>>79307561

what's that? germany couldn't singlehandedly-destroy the UK in a week TOP KEK ANGLO PIG SHIT!!! Oh believe you me, us germans are ITCHING for a war with the UK. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of british soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the niggers and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY british pig shit they see. When germany's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it
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I love how you guys just throw shit each other or all together to Germany, we're gonna have a good time below a bridge, telling stories and warming ourselves in front of a burning pile of shit.
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>>79305183
I look forward to all you Yuropoors becoming rareflags over the next few years as the lights go out in your Socialist "Utopia".
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Deutsche Bank traditionally only had german CEOs, then in the 90s they first began to hire some guy from Switzerland (who did a somewhat decent job), and after him they first hired an indian CEO who turned out to be completely incompetent, and now, they have an ANGLO CEO.

The anglo CEO of course immediately started to sabotage DB by exhanging their assets for derivate WMDs. He sold DBs physical assets and stockholder shares to foreign anglo banks and received completely worthless paper derivatives in turn.

If we would get another 2008 now, Deutsche Bank would be among the first banks to fail.

Doesnt really matter in the long run since the germans have more urgent problems than an economy crash, with 1.5 million ISIS jihadis already standing ready to turn us into Syria 2.0.
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>>79307624
I'll go willingly if it is

>>79307889
I see
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>>79305183
Buy gold mining stocks.
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>>79307648

> Shopping in Germany
> As if I'm poor
> like some Schwab I could name ...
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Why didn't the yuropoors listen to him?
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>>79307928
Just imagine mixing an economic crash with 1.5 million jihadis inside Germanistan.

This thing blowing up would be not only economically, but socially devastating. Race war at his best.

>>79307925
>USA thinking they're not exposed to this.
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>>79307928
Why can't you beautiful Germans just rely on yourselves. In Canada I always hear about German engineering, German cars, German culture, German intelligence, German humor, etc., but it looks like you guys have just fucked it all up because you don't trust yourselves are something.


What is wrong with your national character?
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>>79308327
>German humor
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>>79306217
This sort of shit doesn't make /pol/ really think sadly. They don't know what you meant by this.
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>>79305495
>>79306521
>germany will plummet in debt
>all land will be bought by jews
>a new party will rise
>they will abolish the bank-backed or gold-backed currency in favour of a new temporary system based on work
fill in the rest
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>>79307561
Riot Riot Riot
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>>79308327
>What is wrong with your national character?
not much of it left after 70 years of anglo propaganda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification#Responsibility_and_collective_guilt
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>>79308327
>German humor
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>>79308238
Hey spain bro, check this out, George Soros has bet against deutsche Bank, so it's not looking to good for them

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/684259/George-Soros-100-million-euro-bet-Deutsche-bank-collapse-shares-EU-referendum-Brexit

Gute Nacht Deutschland
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>>79308588
>mfw
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>>79308694
>>79305440
Why this fucker is always jewing us?
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>>79308238
You're right, when the time comes I'll have to do my civic duty to help keep you all from starving.
It'll be rough times, but making sure you receive your semen rations and avoid starvation will be reward enough for me
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>>79307925
This will affect you as well dumbass
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>>79305183
>happening like some muslim blowing himself at the airport
>muslim blowing himself
>blowing himself
>at the fucking airport
Top kek
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>>79308811
It's natural, I'm going to try and learn how to short deutsche as well, I want to make some money, I respect Soros for his intelligence. Learn from jew
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>>79307629
They don't have to wait 2 years , that's the maximum time it will take.
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>>79308883
It's time to take out the trash.
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Guys don't scare me, since Brexit I've been getting more and more paranoid that shit's going to go down in Europe really soon. I don't want any financial crashes or civil wars, I just want to keep my boring, comfy life, don't ruin this for me
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>>79305183
>>79305495
Time to start trading in gravel.
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>>79305342
JPMorgan was a bank? I thought they were only (((Merchants)))
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>>79309274
>I just want to keep my boring, comfy life
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>>79309274
I'm afraid if nothing happens you'll just get overrun by migrants and uh so far talking to the politicians doesn't seem to be helping anything they're not exactly listening to the people so as hard as it may be you Euro cucks might wanna get ready for shit to go down because at some point it will realistically.
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>>79308447
> he's Canadian
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>>79309274
Fuck off. Make Europe crash and burn already
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To bail this out Germany will have to buy all the corporate EU bonds in existence basically to prop up the next shit show.

This will have the effect to killing productivity on the continent. Again Germany will bail out EU because of this.

Through all this DB will be taken into private German hands. At that point the Jews move in and crack up the EU causing the final collapse buying up everything with a price tag on at rock bottom prices.

the end.
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>>79309274
You better start believing in happenings..you are in one
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>>79309510
Merchant and banker usually goes together.

>>79309659
Why are so many of you starving for a EU crash? If EU crashes, Germany actual reich is going to shit.
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>>79309692
Fucking kikes
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>>79308886
Explain.

Because right now everything is calm in the US and the GBP and Euro still buy shit. It sounds like all these graphs you're posting are attempts to fear monger.

No one in Britain is feeling any sort of economic downturn because of Brexit. Deal with it.
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>>79309801
>If EU crashes, Germany actual reich is going to shit.
That's precisely why
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>>79309534

get a job you worthless underage parasite.
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>>79305495
Can someone explain the X axis on this graph. I understand Lehman Bros. But is this plotting DB in 2008 too???

Sauce for this graph?
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>>79309903
It's been a week

If you think losing the only 2nd major 1st world client market won't affect you, I have bad news for you
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>>79309903
>http://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-poses-greatest-risk-to-global-financial-system-imf-says-1467239405

“In particular, Germany, France, the U.K. and the U.S. have the highest degree of outward spillovers as measured by the average percentage of capital loss of other banking systems due to banking sector shock in the source country”
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Deutsche Bank sucks, everybody I know who uses it has problems with it.
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>>79310162
>>79305440

I think we're going full 2008 again.
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>>79309659
Why the fuck do you want that? Life in Germany is still pretty fucking great, who cares if our politicians are scumbags, politicians everywhere are. I don't give a single shit as long as it doesn't affect my personal life. EU crashing and burning would most certainly affect it for the worst, why would anyone in their right mind want that? Are you really that bored that you'd want to starve to death or die on the streets for some vague illusion of "freedom" that will never be reality anyway?
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>>79309903
mate let me explain it real simple.
1)the non eu markets (ftse/s&p/usd) are "calm" because they are being propped up so no one gets spooked.
2) what is happen to you, far more insidiously, is the removal of your rights. no one is going to annouce this, there is no "Index" on freedom and liberty - it's much more complicated because it's so important. Just yesterday you had your president announcing the futher advancement of the NAU measures. This should worry you freind.
If you can understand and seperate those two things you should do well.
Recent events following on from brexit are the last grasps of globalism, and these will hurt.
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>>79307520
Didn't that crash in Kecksburg back in the 60s?
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>>79309575
>he didn't read the post
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>>79309534
This is a fantastic quote and rings true today.

You obviously would rather lick the hands that feed you. Sooooo you should probably go kill yourself.
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>>79305183

>mfw I'm almost done with all my medical bills that went to debt collection due to losing my job from said injury
>only have a little over 3k to pay off with my credit card but haven't missed a payment and am giving more than the required amount so should be able to pay it off realistically in 2 months or so.
>Student loans are bullshit though but if government goes under so will the student loan debt bubble.

Honestly, I might be well positioned once everything hits the fan.
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>>79308447
>Canadian shitposting
>>79308693
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>>79310385
>I don't give a single shit as long as it doesn't affect my personal life.

You are part of the problem. Hell, you are worse than our politicians because you only care about yourself you egotistical piece of shit.

Ab ins gas hans, jetzt aber schnell.
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>>79305183
>my money is starting to feel so insecure that it's posting in /r9k/.
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>>79305183
it isnt new news. douche bank had negative growth not long ago. with so much volatility in the markets the past year it was expected some would fail

i mean 3/4 major banks in america had really low profit margins last year. they might be treading water with douche bank but sooner or later 1 will go belly up. tgis sort of thing happens about every 10-15 years
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So am I planning my eurovacation this year? Will American Dollar masterrace gibs me some luxuries?
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Can someone explain what's going on here without memes or one-word replies
So the Brexit did the opposite of what all the salty Bremainers said - instead of the UK economy tanking, Germany's bank is now overloaded with debt?
I doubt that would lead to conflict in Europe. The SJW EU cucks will just blame Nigel Farage and Donald Trump while threatening any other countries from leaving the EU.
The worst you'll get is chimps attacking people more often.
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>>79310365
I don't think it will be that drastic. What economic indicators convince you otherwise?

>2008 trillions of dollars disappeared largely due to shit-tier MBS and CDO and their stellar ratings
>Investors will buy C or worse grade securities rated as a B or A and the poor folk who were supposed to pay their mortages didn't

>Basically people thought money was there but there isn't. It's a little bit different now.

Is it also true Germans are withdrawing from their banks? That's not a good sign.

I also just bought a shit load of LYG (Lloyds Banking Group) hoping for a quick buck before the knife falls


Also what's the Y axis? Is it percentage of decline? I still am slightly confused.

However here is a pic of 2008 for DB .... kinda close to today
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I know you love graphs and shit so here's another one, although I think this is slightly overdramatic, but anyway:

>Left = Germany GDP
>Middle = EU GDP
>Right = DB derivatives

It's from a spanish economic blog.
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>>79310680
I might be an egoistical piece of shit but I appreciate the comfy life in my country. How exactly would EU collapsing do Germany any good?
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>>79305183

test
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>>79310988
>b-but muh media said everything explode
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>>79305183
>yfw, yur an ameriburger and you have bitcoins and a Swiss bank account
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>>79309274
your life is worthless

how come you dont see it

time to step it up and join us in glorious conquest
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>>79311111
>I know you love graphs and shit so here's another one,
Nice quints but

CAN PEOPLE STOP POSTING GRAPHS WITHOUT PROPER AXES?

Seriously how can I determine the effect size of a graph like that without a scale?
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It's gonna be italy first. Then germanistan.
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>>79310988
butthurt beta SJW cuck manlets defend the religion of peace, they're useful idiots under the guidance of the kike zionist communist socialists of the frankfurt school, deus vult kek wills it has lead to MEGA which will likely lead to the collapse of brussels jews as GREXIT NEXIT ITEXIT DEXIT happens delaying the one world order, grössgermaniums banks will go under and everyone will lose their shekels collapsing the euro
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>>79311111
>>Right = DB derivatives

Derivatives as in holdings (like options, futures)

Or Debits??????? <If debt then WOOOAH THERE talk about leverage in 1928 or 2008>
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Around Krauts prepare for bailouts.
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>>79311099
Maybe you're right, after 2008 they probably have been more careful about sweeping the dirt under the carpet.

But the truth is that now ECB is maintaining all this lie, basically keeping low interests rates, printing money and helping us, southern countries, because if some of us, specially Italy and Spain goes to shit definitively, DB is going to be pretty compromised.
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>>79305183

IMF, Germany, and EU doesn't have the shekels to support DB when it goes under and that day of reckoning is coming thank goodness.

I will be using the worthless euro as toilet paper.
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>>79311342
that graph is fine, x and y are shown. plus it has a source too.

your wrong example is fine, but both are wrong because they lack a source.

if you're gonna go full autism at least do it right.
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>>79311134

Of course it wouldn´t be good for "germany". But the nation and it´s borders are just human construct. What is important is not the nation, but the people that make up that nation, so germans/germanics. And they are currently getting replaced by the brown horde.

After all, if you have 5 million germans left with 90 million population inside germany, is it still germany? I don´t think so.
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>>79311342
you do realise with a brain like that you are going to get shut down
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>>79311342
Mate I try to find good graphs but it's hard nowadays.
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>>79308883
>he actually took the time to draw this
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Why do banks still recieve so many priviledges,specially after 2008? Who the fuck thought that a debt driven system would be sustainable?
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>>79311883
It's what we call here "patadón palante y que lo arregle el siguiente".

They're running forward, assuring their properties and money, and fuck the system when they're in a bunker and we're burning eypos.
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You europeans should really pull your money out of the bank and fast.
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>>79311099
Soros and quite a few hedge fund managers are all shorting the markets this coming year.

>>79311832
>being this new
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>>79311883
Because they dont learn
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>>79312098
>You europeans should really pull your money out of the bank and fast.

This, fucking this, but you know, we all think that, at least for now, we're fine, until one day you wake up and magically DB makes a Lehman and doesn't exists anymore.

And that day is coming.
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>>79305183
A global economic collapse has been in the works for decades, my man.
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>>79312221
This people spent their entire lifes studying this crap.If they dont want to change it is not due incompetence.
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>>79311701
>And they are currently getting replaced by the brown horde
The "brown horde" is currently stuck in their camps with almost no women in sight, they can't replace Germans if they have nobody to reproduce with. And I hope you're not dumb enough to fall for those "muh sandniggers will take all our women way" memes. I agree that it was fucking stupid to let them all in but I think even out retarded politicians realized it was a huge mistake by now. Crashing the EU won't make them disappear from here, either, so I still don't see how it will do us ANY good.
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>>79312206
sorry for not knowing every single meme, i should really spend more time looking at semen comics on autist imageboards
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>>79305183
>Mfw aunt works at deutsche bank

shit, she has loads of money then will be rip if it goes under?
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>>79307889
We are a nuclear capable country hans. No war will happen. And if it does then it is bye bye earth.
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>>79311701
The best part is it's not just Germany, if everything collapses and certain groups keep fucking up everyone will hate them, and with poverty patience will be thin.
>2017
>Europe united after having to work together to drive invaders ou after ahmed started a civil war chimping out when no one had money
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>>79311653
I was referring to this graph>>79305495

Which I like but requires two scales on the X axis (one for 2008, one for 2016 if that's what it's doing. DB fell like crazy in 2008 so I can't really tell if it is 2016) Also where is the Y axis? Is it in Dollars? Is it percent change in a 5 day period?

Do you even know what effect size is? My example shows a dramatic effect on the left because the author manipulated the scales. But if you actually take a look at the data the decline is not so drastic.

There is no "wrong" or "right" in my example just misleading and less misleading.

It's wrong to completely neglect the scale esp if some one put a break in it which is also misleading.

>>79311547
Do you know the leverage for DB? If it's over 30x then EU is fucked. Sounds like ECB is inflationary now but gold hasn't been shooting up during inflationary crises like this.

>>79311737
Yeah /pol/ is not a good place to find smart lads. /sci/ hates biologists (I'm a biologist, computational scientist analyzing genetics)

>>79311802
It's cool that figure was actually really informative. It is hard nowadays because people want their data to be misleading. I'm guilty of that too

>>79312206
What is hedging your position. He's just being careful doesn't mean there will be a crash.
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>>79312417
Take your aunt and make her pull her money out of DB now.

And if she feels good maybe should start sending applications to another bank, just in case.
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>>79307228
> Gerxit
Kek. When EU is dead.
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>>79312406
Yes, you should feel sorry.
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>>79305183
Buy Yuan.
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>>79305440
lel, and it's only half way there (the last dip)
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>ctrl+f
>santander

Santander and DB were the only two banks that failed. If this thing blows up we can say goodbye to the European economy. Hope my student debt goes up in flames in those trillions of derivatives though.
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German-brahs

Are people putting a run on the banks?
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>>79312366
It's a mixture of incompetence and overconfidence, something like: It wont happen to us, or the next person will deal with it
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>>79305183
Just like every other financial "happening" nothing will actually happen. just like last year around this time when everone was freaking out about shemita to the point that it actually made the news. nothing happened and it will never happen
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>>79312402

They don´t need women. There are 80 million new people born into poverty each year with 1 billion additionals to chose from. You can literally go there and pic them up.

There is endless supply of slave labour.
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>>79312994
Shemita?
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>>79312916
>Santander and DB were the only two banks that failed
When did they fail?
Santander is fucked,if Britain restricts them after Brexit.I dont know about DB.
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>>79312994
>nothing will actually happen
People said the same thing about the housing buble and Lehman brothers.The difference is that DB is way bigger than Lehman ever was
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>>79308883
Holy shit, this mixed 3rd world mutt actually thinks he's above us. Sit down, subhuman.
http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-25/american-babies-are-no-longer-mostly-non-hispanic-white
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/07/06/its-official-the-us-is-becoming-a-minority-majority-nation
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I have my money in sparkasse, I'm safe
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>>79313161
>I dont know about DB
This thread is dedicated to DB
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>>79308327
>German humor

No need to analyze, it's a leaf.
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>>79305183

When Deutsche Bank blows the whole universe will reverberate.
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>>79312586
Ah, totally agree with you then on that chart not having full information.

>hedging your position
This isn't a hedge, it's a complete move to short US Stocks. Major move out of stocks and into gold and mining.
>The last time Mr. Soros became closely involved in his firm’s trading: 2007, when he became worried about housing and placed bearish wagers over two years that netted more than $1 billion of gains.
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>>79313110
/pol/ was convinced that some global Joo conspiracy crashes the markets every 7 years and because last year was the 7th cycle of 7 years (since great depression or some BS) that it was a super-shemita and the world financial markets will collapse and lead to WW3
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>>79313110
here you go, newfriend
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>>79313277
I meant that I dont know their weight in Britain.Sabtander was one of the biggest banks,if not the biggest in Britain,and Brexit fucked them over.I guess that it is probably the same with DB
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>>79307175
TFW we did it lol
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it'll be 2008 times 10 if this sucker goes down

not good
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>>79313161
http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/economia/deutsche-bank-e-santander-voltaram-a-falhar-testes-de-resistencia-nos-eua_v930409

Portuguese news. Although my guess is this mostly speculators trying to derail the Euro.

I firmly believe we have been under attack since around 2004 when the petrodollar started losing hegemony. Goldman Sachs, the rating agencies, the FED etc have been orchestrating the European sovereign debt """crisis""" and beyond.
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No one cares about the douche bank.
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>>79313745
Santander was really fucked by Brexit,and probably part of DB assests are debt to other banks like Santander.
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>>79313766
>Be American
>Think douche bank is stupid
>Be dumb
>Be American
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>>79314026
>Be american
>buy burger
>get stabbed
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>>79313745

There is a crisis. You have no growth due to demographics and trade imbalance between eu nations causes further problems. Currency devaluation wpuld reduce debt load and spur growth but you can't due that with the euro.

The ecb now buys national bonds but they do this to lower the interest rate just enough to roll over the debt. Austerity only works if you can increase productivity but that hasn't happened yet and very difficult to achieve.
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>>79313268
>It's a Hakka Hükka Finn has a meltdown episode
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>>79313711
Good to buy equity lad.

>LET IT FALL AND BUY BLUE CHIP STOCKS
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>>79314264
We get shot
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>>79312926

No. Don't trust the /pol/ too much on pretty much anything
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>>79314370
how do i go about profiting from this? i have never bought any stocks but would like to start
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>>79314336
Dont worry

All those migrant doctors will pay taxes and not put any pressure on infrastructure at all, no sir.

After all, the last 20 years of mass migration has done wonders for the UK
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>>79314659
You sell it when it is expensive, and buy it when its cheap.
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>>79305495

This is 2008 you mong
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>>79306915
I'LL BE JOINING THIS TIME WITH YOU AND NOT AGAINST YOU!
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>>79314764
that's obvious, but what are some good stocks to invest in in a situation like this? to maximise profits
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>>79314764
Also, sell it before it is worthless.
Und fang mit einem Musterdepot an.
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>>79312452
A few hundred nukes wont destroy the earth faggot, they'd destroy Germany easily enough but you need tens of thousands for the complete destruction of civilisation.
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>>79313443
>Santander

>One of the biggest banks, if not the biggest in Britain

Uhh.. no Spain, just no.
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>>79315103
Buy the stocks who make profit because of this. Also obvious.
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>>79314659
>buy low and sell high

I don't know the laws in your country but in America this is what I would do

>However I am a patient man and in times like these would prefer to buy stock in companies and HOLD for years

When the market is depressed (as it is now)
> Find a brokerage firm. If you're not making frequent trades, commission is not a major consideration (money brokers charge to put in a trade)
>However your brokerage firm should have a low or free operating cost (money you pay per month or year to maintain your account)
>Also a brokerage firm might require a minimum deposit, usually around $1000

Blue Chip (i.e. low risk stock)
> DJIA (Dow Jones Industrial Average) consists of 30 companies like Disney, Bank of America, Boeing, Home Depot, McDonalds
>These are "titans of industry" in America and are by far consist of the largest companies
> Germany's is the DAX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAX
> It's usually recommended to purchase a variety of different industries (health care, finance, manufacturing, logistics, etc) to build a diversified portfolio. However this may be moot for very long term investments. Or a solid approach to minimize risk.

That's pretty much it! I don't know the laws in your country and the taxes you will pay on your capital gains but it's good to BUY LOW and SELL HIGH. Be patient and think of years return.

Take opportunities to buy cheap stocks that you know will still be around in 10 years like McDonalds or Coca Cola.
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>>79315103
>>79315267
danke familie
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>>79307928
>The anglo CEO of course immediately started to sabotage DB by exhanging their assets for derivate WMDs

all according to plan

fuck all germans
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Lmao @ Germany. I am going to enjoy their downfall
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>>79314336
We're living in a zero percent interest bubble thanks to the ECB and all the markets are acting irrationally, there is no way this thing won't blow up in our faces sooner or later. I don't think demographics play that much of a role, but the euro certainly does. Outside of core economies like Germany or the Netherlands few countries have had real growth after they joined the Euro. Once you join the monetary you might get a temporary boost as your country catches up (Portugal or Estonia as an example) but from then on you start feeling the shackles of the ECB and the EU rules. Italy, Spain, France have had virtually non existent GDP growth since joining the euro. It's a failed experiment and only serves to prop up German exports.
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>>79315692
dumb cunt i hope you get killed by emus
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>>79308160
>invented Kuckucksuhr
>invented...????
>SWISS PRIDE MUH BANKS
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>>79314659
Take a look at most Dow Jones stocks from 2008 to now.

Almost any one of them you would have made a lot of money on

Attached is a selection of Dow Jones 30 stocks from 2008 to now (percent change on the Y)

Most of them but Bank of America and Goldman Sachs and Exxon (low oil price)

did really really really well
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>>79315734
>It's a failed experiment and only serves to prop up German exports.
>failed

No failure there m8, all according to plan.
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>>79306760
Merkel has just got the uk to vote itself out of the EU
Now watch as she uses this to take control of all of the 27 taxation and economy's
Makes peace with Russia
Gets turkey in removes Assad
The BRICS switch petrodollars to euros
A German eu with turkey and Hillary in the white house and merkels got the dirt on her
4th reich without firing a shot
She knew the refugee crisis would push the uk out
Now watch her solve it while the UK watches and still has refugee problems itself
And then bring prosperity to the world
4d chess
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>>79314659
>>79315938
To continue...

As you can tell some of them did better than the average (in red) and some worse.

Some people like to minimize their risk by purchasing Index funds
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>>79309274
>I don't want any financial crashes
It's like you want to remain poor.
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>>79305342
>mfw work for bank of new york mellon, the world's largest asset custody bank
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>>79315815
Better than Ahmed fucking my frau
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>>79316116
>The BRICS switch petrodollars to euros

Do you know what happened to the last 2 guys who tried that?
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>>79316116
>The BRICS switch petrodollars to euros
Never going to be allowed unless the US completely collapses
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>>79316116
Bro it's way to early to be this drunk
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>>79313047
>implying the jews in germany are going to allow slavery to be legal

Look, guys, I think it's time you had a fourth reich. I mean, really. It may involve cleaning up the nation and slaughtering thousands of retards/liberal degenerates, but better to burn the cancer away then let it kill you, as they say.
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>>79307889
I hope you join in, can't wait to examine the hole my .303 Brit punches through your filthy kebab skull
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>>79316188
so... are we all fucked?
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>>79316188

As a janitor?
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Anybody wanna TLDR the charts above? They ain't got units
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>>79316116
>Brazil and China
>Switching to €s
Brazilians are dumb, but not THAT dumb
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>>79315734

Demographics do play a role in diluting the debt across more people and giving you more time to correct issues. It is the singular reason why your leaders try to allow for open borders and mass refugees. They know since you aren't having kids, the overall economy would decline and all of those promises/debt would rein in. You are right, the euro is a surefire way to cripple yourself. The only painless solution for you is to act more german or convince them to vacation in your country. I don't see that happening.
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>>79316833

and he does it for free.
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>>79305183
We tried to stop this, but they didn't listen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liikanen_report

EU leaders just have their heads too far up in the asses of their banks.
UK and US are no different mind you.
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>>79307871
Except this time
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>>79305183
>Giving your cash to the Deutsche Bank
>Not Sparkasse
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>>79317204
>People willingly listen to bank regulations
Not in this era
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>>79316116
>4th reich
stop calling it that, the eu is a soulless entity that has nothing to do with the german people
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>>79314933
The chart is Lehman 2008 and Deutsche Bank 2016

I let you figure out what happens next when a bank 10 times as lehman has a lehman moment
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>>79317987

>Germany is the only country inside the EU who can actually have a say on EU policy
>EU is not the 4th reich

Merkel pls
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>>79317987
Except being run by Germany
Uber efficient
Do you think merkel could pull this off?
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Why did Germany have to destroy the EU by needlessly importing millions of bulls into their country to fuck their wives when there's millions of whites elsewhere around the world ready to do that?
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>>79310703
oh boy
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>>79318161
>>79318306
>run by germany
sure it is, i forgot that germans are actually the only people who are allowed to vote on eu policy. my bad
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>>79318412
because Merkel is a globalist agent with the sole mission to destroy Europe and she is doing an excellent job
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>apply to Deutsche Bank job posting
>get turned down

Good. Screw them.
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I feel at the same time excited and scared. Watching Europe's slow death is too agonizing, I want status quo to change fast, and a financial crisis should be able to bring change. But then again, I'm going to be in the middle of that mess too, and I feel worried about how it'll affect me or my loved ones. Also, I fear that those who created this mess are going to make sure that they'll win in the end, and history books will be written to blame people like us for everything.
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>>79312417
That ID
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>>79305183

Soros knows his shit, he bet against the banking system as he always has insider knowledge
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I really am confused about the state of the world economy rn. Im real sick of the sky is falling crowd
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>>79307928
Oh bollocks! The Teutonics know, shut it down!
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>>79318646

Germany actually has influence on the policies, the rest of us just vote on it.

Merkel welcomes refugees? EU welcomes refugees and cannot control the "crisis" even though all it takes is for them to shut external borders.

Euro gets introduced? Germany the only country to get any positive benefits from it.

Greece fucks up it's economy? Two banks and Germany are the ones to tell Greece how to behave.

EU and Germany's EU policy is basically the same.
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Is the DeutscheBank our new Wunderwaffe to destroy the world?
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>>79312406
>HE DOESN'T KNOW THE AMERICAN SHIPMENT OF SPERM MEME
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>>79305183
>so insecure that it's posting in /r9k/.

Zing
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>>79310496
Maybe not the same one, but possibly a reverse engineered one from made from the one the Nazis used.

What went down at Kecksburg really was some shit though.
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>>79318412
The thing is that we don't have all that many walls in European borders and killing civilians isn't exactly our forte and would likely cause civil war in Europe. If Turkey opens the floodgates it'll be really hard to stop them even if we don't provide them social security.

They're already flooding to Greece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enct9odU8sA
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>>79319112
>I want status quo to change fast, and a financial crisis should be able to bring change.
>I feel worried about how it'll affect me or my loved ones
You get what you ask for. If you want instability and chaos, the price you and your loved ones pay could very well be death.
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>>79312417
Are you a reL pussyboi?
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>>79311832
fixd for you
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DELETE THIS!
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>>79320304
>implying germans on /pol/ aren't desperately wishing for the happening
>>79320566
quality meme
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Thr Britsh people were smart on their decision. Nice.
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>>79320765
This has nothing to do with the EU
This will fuck up everybody including yourself
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>>79315692
cunt
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>>79307320
Reminder that Germany siphoned money from every other fucking country in Europe to do this.
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>>79321180
Not really, man. analyze everything. Now there's no binding mechanism for them under which to bail out Germany.((( You))) will be mandated to pay for the bail out. If UK is getting into recession, you guys will be worse off. Get ready for "austerity". i doubt my country will be so eager to keep on funding your free university by subsidizing your defence from Russia
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>>79307889
Remind me who has nukes? Is it Germany or Britain? Get back in the cuck shed Fritz you aren't doing shit.
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>>79321741
reminder that an anglo is to blame for the Deutsche Bank fail
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>>79307889
No country on Earth could defeat Britain, simple fact.

Worst comes to worst our Seraphon overlords reveal themselves and wreck your shit.
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>>79308694
How do I bet against the German bank?
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>>79321983
No more fourth Reich for you, Ahmed
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>>79305183
Daily reminder that Brexit was about financial independence that the young in the U.K. didn't understand.

The EU understood it, which is why they are pushing to form a superstate immediately.
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All jokes aside for a moment.
WTF is Germany going to do about the DB crisis?

Its umpteen times GDP, what will it do, issue a 50-year bond??!?
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>>79309801
>Why are so many of you starving for a EU crash?

It`s the same mechanism that makes people starve for war. It`s something new, unusual and it totally flips everything upside down, which they think is good, because they`re frustrated, bored and convinced that the current situation is as shitty as it gets, so fuck it.

> I`m getting goosebumps when I think of possible outcomes of this shit, and not the pleasant ones. Interesting times... fuck.
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>>79305183
Jokes on you Santander, I have debt with you. I'm not losing any money anytime soon!
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Who is the carrier of the anti-national consent?

"The carrier is the political class itself which derives it power from Germany not having any power or only a very limited; while under the cheering of this class the last German power resource is abolished, the D-Mark! When this has happened the other big countries will uphold their national prerogative, while we will be literally left empty handed. When we won't have any money any more, when our crisis exacerbate, when we won't be able to finance Europe any longer then we will be the biggest pigs in Europe and than there will be huge campaigns because of the past. We should be prepared for that."
-Günter Maschke in 1997
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>>79322396

Spain will nationalise Santander, they do not have Germoney's free market sensibilities.
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>>79320046
I know, that's why I said I've got conflicted feelings. Thing is, I'm more scared of islamization than economic difficulties. Economies can recover and rise again, but demographic replacement can't be reverted without committing atrocities. I want to see Europe's islamization stopped during my lifetime, but it looks like things have gone too far already and change can't happen through peaceful, democratic means anymore.
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>>79322339
Why were so many people starving for an EU? It makes no sense, really.

Each nation should get back to standing on its own 2 feet again. The world would be a better place.
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>>79322535
Them and what money?
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Damn, UK couldn't have jumped shit at a better time.
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>>79314346
He is right, your whole country is a product of race mixing. Even the 60% is somewhat race mixed. Disgusting...
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>>79311512

Yeah, it's derivatives in debt. This is really going to blow the fuck up when the massive Italian problems start in a few months
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>>79322893

All this shit was going on all the time, but more in the shadows. Brexit just made the elites panic and reveal their hand, because they wanna get everything done before more referendums come.
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>>79322635

There`s nothing wrong with cooperation and keeping together, as long as it`s healthy and everyone benefit. This is the fucked up human nature - we have to push everything into fucked up extremes.
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>>79323229

Is this not basically polands fault considering they mass immigrated to britian and took so much money from the EU
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>the germans are finally falling like the tyrants they are in their 4th reich
>this will probably cause them to rise again as nazis cause fuck the world.
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>>79322997
What Italian problem ? Pardon my ignorance
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>>79307889
US and UK would tag team your ass and make you our bitch. Looking forward to it you filthy fuckin kebab.
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>>79323774

Italian economy is pretty much fucked, and they are so big that if they fall, EU banks cannot bail them out.
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>>79323774

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-29/germany-just-blew-italys-bank-bailout-plan

There will be need for either a massive bailout or a complete collapse of the Italian banking system, which consists of 600+ banks, the worst of which is Unicredit which the entire Eurozone (including Deutsche Bank) is very exposed to.
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>>79324128

With the Greek, Spanish, etc bailout, Italy cannot be saved. If Italy falls, the euro falls. at least thats how i understood it.
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>>79306915
Seems good desu.

Can i join ?
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>>79307889
kek you realise how small your military is lad? Even IF the Us didn't back us up, which they would, we'd annihilate you with minimal losses. You don't even have enough nuclear power to make a dent in our "tiny island".
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>>79323448

Everyone I know who went to UK did so to work, not to suck on public tits. So they contributed to UK`s economics, actually.
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>>79324280
>tfw my money is in a bank connected to Unicredit
Any good banks chaps? a friend suggested Safra
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>>79324707

If Unicredit goes, the entire banking system goes along with it. If that happens, there's no hope.
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>>79324631
Yes, a lot of them did work, but it's fucking hard to maintain a job when you're shit at speaking the native language and feel prejudice for being different. There's going to the UK to work and actually working.

I'm not saying poles and Romanians are inferior, but you're at a disadvantage purely for being a first gen immigrant.

We're fucking full!
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>>79325046
are they really too big to bail?
It seems impossible that they would let the entire system go to hell
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>>79325345

There is no "legit" way to save it. Amount of money that needs to be used for bailouts is simply too much.
However knowing the kikes they probably have some shady backup plan to make things go their way in the end, at the expense of the ordinary citizen, ofc.
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>>79324631

Not even that, it hard to support the mass migration of that many people. How is society supposed to just sit there and accept that the population spiked
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>>79325345
but that's the plan, they sacrifices the current system, create a lot of chaos and then introduce their "new" system
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>>79305183
Investing everything in pounds that will be safe haven when Euro goes bust
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>>79325236

Everywhere prices of things needed to live a decent life go up faster than wages. At some point the natives (in this case you) stop taking the lowest paid jobs because it`s impossible to maintain your lifestyle with them. So a vacuum appears and imigrants step in. They don`t know your language well, maybe they`re not as efficient, but they are willing to take lowest paying jobs and can survive because they need less (sometimes much less) things than you. So immigrants are only half of the problem, the other one is you refusing to cut down on consumption.
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>>79306760

Germany is so pathetic. They literally can never take ANY responsibilities for their actions. They always blame the US or someone else for the problems they create
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>>79326055

>the other one is you refusing to cut down on consumption.

Our government has been telling people for 15-20 years now that you HAVE TO get a degree so you can get a nice paying job.
The reason no one wants low paying jobs is because we are feed from childhood to think we are special and deserve more. Everyone thinks low paying jobs are embarrassing.
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>>79325046
the eternal german strikes again.

What, you thought BREXIT was a bad hit against us?
No just wait until the Deutsche Bank causes a massive economic collapse.

Who do you think will the EU countries come running to for help? Polska?
Even the UK will come running back, but for the City of London it will be to late.
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>>79309274
>I just want to keep my boring, comfy life
>"We have discovered happiness," - say the last men, and blink thereby.
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>>79325345

Unicredit by itself isn't. Unicredit can be bailed out. The problem is that Unicredit by itself wouldn't be enough because it has too much exposure to the rest of the Italian banking system that would be failing at the same time. The entire Italian banking system IS too big to bail out. There is no way in hell it can be.

Due to Eurozone exposure to Italy, and the current ticking timebomb happening in France's financial system, the shockwaves of an Italian banking crisis will spread throughout Europe and take France down with it. Just one of these financial systems collapsing would bring down the entire continent, particularly due to Deutsche Bank's central role in the Eurozone and all of its derivative debt. When Deutsche Bank is inevitably affected by the collapse of either Italy's or France's (likely both triggered by Italy) financial systems, there will be a MUCH greater global financial crisis than 2008 ever was, and it will bring down the Eurozone, the Euro currency and the entire European Union.

The EU is just a ticking timebomb. Creating the Euro was the greatest mistake in history.
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>>79326055

This is why i think Poland were one of the main 3 contributors to the downfall of the EU. Polish people aren't helping anyone but themselves and basically ignoring the fact that its just isn't a feasible system
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>>79307930
>>79312452
>>79316686
>>79321877
>>79322034
>>79323999
>>79324529

so you guys haven't seen this pasta before? hmm really makes u think.
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>>79312492
>Europe united after having to work together to drive invaders out
I just realized that this is the end goal. This si the final one. We're being driven apart in order to kill each other and find together again. That's the big kike plan and the positive thing we're think we are doing is actually just what they want us to do.
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>>79325607

It wouldn`t have to be like this if not for greed and stupidity of a relatively small group of people. But well, here we are.
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>>79326427

Why would the UK be running back to the EU? What possible solution could it give them
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I'm a retard when it comes to finance, I work and money gets deposited in my account.

How and where do I place my money for safe(r) storage?
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>>79307889
t. Turkroach
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>>79326803
youre right, the UK is just collateral damage.

Who cares? We still got the french.
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>>79326854
>unironically not knowing this pasta
newfag
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>>79322078
this. always wondered how you bet against something like a bank or a currency
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>>79326845
bullets canned food and rope
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>>79326845

Gold before Brexit would have been the ideal choice. I am not that keen on stocks, so dunno about now.
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>>79326845

If you can afford it, buy gold.
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>>79326845
You need to invest it into a physical capital or a business that won't fail from the happening.

If you just want a liquidation asset gold is typical go to commodity.
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>>79307889
Nigger your military doesn't even have enough money to buy ammunition for all its soldiers.
If either you or the UK even looked like you might declare war against one another, the US would just step in and tell you stop being children. It would be a non-issue.
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>>79326654
I-it was a pasta guys really
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>>79327053
>>79327088
>>79327110
Please explain, as if to a 7-year old, how I buy gold.
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>>79326608

But why? We didn`t create that system in the first place. Nobody here had an evil master plan. It was simple: I can`t survive here, but I can go to Germany or UK and work there. People could do it, people did.

Can`t speak for our current and past govt though. They`re just like every other govt, doing their thing and usually not including ordinary men in their decision making.
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>>79327293
you can literally just buy it online as you would for any other physical product.
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>>79327293

"buying" gold as in buying it physically usually leads to you getting ripped off, unless you know it's a trustworthy company.

Just buy stocks on the stock market. Prices are a bit high atm though, but if the DB happening really does come, prices will go up more.
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>>79327110
I would wager silver.
Gold is great but it's value is too high.
Silver is $20 an oz.
Gold is $1200 an oz.
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>>79327133

look it up 'straya friend.
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>>79326373

This.
And it`s bullshit.
It was quite sweet when people were fed with it, but now many wake up with bitter aftertaste.
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>>79314264
> Be Northern Californian
> Grill my own burgers
> Stab bitches [with my glorious American cock]
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>>79305183
>my money is starting to feel so insecure that it's posting in /r9k/.

criminally underrated
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>>79327659
G-guys please don't be mean it's just a joke guys seriously I didn't actually think Germany had a real military guys please it's just pasta guys!
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>>79322078
bumping so someone may answer this
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>>79328329
Picture of german military camp
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>>79328329

the ultimate jewry
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>>79328521
>please accept me guys
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I don't have any money associated with Deutsche Bank. Will I be ok or should I invest in a commodity or something just in case?
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>>79324529
To be honest, any nuke hitting London would cripple the UK. A nuke there just kills and maims too many people for your society to handle and continue fighting.
Which is also true for Paris, the Ruhrgebiet or Berlin, Munich.

In fact, Germany would be one of the more resistant countrys to a nuking, because of our federal nature.
We have redundant leadership, regional centers and industrial zones. Still a hit on any big city just binds too much manpower in cleanup.
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>>79308235
If they did you'd have ~700mil new people in Alcapulco.
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>>79329305
Where would you get this nuke though, Hans? I'm sure your government could cobble something together in desperation but it wouldn't be a top tier city crippling nuke.
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I hope it collapses, finally a decent happening
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>>79306521
>>79305495
>>79305183

Ohhhhh noooooooooo!
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>>79312417

THAT FUCKING ID HAHAHAHA
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>>79328433

You can short their shares via your broker, if you want to bet against a currency you can short it on forex.
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>>79312586
If a flashy graph throws you off your a retard
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>>79327503
>Prices are a bit high atm though, but if the DB happening really does come, prices will go up more.
Isnt it the opposite? Prices will plummet instead
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>>79330236

Tev vel vienu dižķibeli un "'''''konsolidāciju''''''' tik ļoti gribās?
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>>79330643
pohuj tak
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>>79330643
Ko tu dari polā ja happeningu negribi, e?
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