>tfw capitalism leads to economic exploitation of the many by the few
>tfw communism leads to poitical exploitation of the many by the few
What options are there, /pol/? Are we forced to choose between economic slavery and political slavery? Is there no alternative path, one that restores dignity to the common working man?
Lonely bump
natsoc :^)
Racial homogeny. If you're genetically invested and more likely slightly related than not you arent gonna want to exploit people as much. Of course there will always be psychopaths and (((infiltrators))) but they can be gassed or something idk.
>>79275154
There is a Third Way, OP.
>>79275154
>tfw communists have been dead wrong about every single thing in their entire lives and NEVER EVER stop being perpetually butthurt about it
>tfw the free market is the greatest thing humanity has ever achieved
>>79275154
Stop over-thinking and face the real problems that your people face. If you try and fix these, the solutions will appear there and then.
![General-Augusto-Pinochet-800x430[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VSMgxmt.jpg "General-Augusto-Pinochet-800x430[1].jpg")
KILL ALL MARXISTS
DO IT
NOW
>>79276402
The free market gave us interracial porn and hip-hop culture ;)
Oh, what am I saying, you love this. You love that the ((capitalists)) control the urges of the lowest stratum of your population. Because you think you can join them, even if that means the destruction of your race.
>>79276266
Where do I start? Is Mein Kampf a good introduction? Any good English translations, preferably without (((revisions)))?
>>79276750
Start with Spengler's "Decline of the West".
>>79275154
Lolbertarianism but that leads to total degeneration and retardation
>>79276693
>The free market gave us interracial porn and hip-hop culture ;)
>cherry picking
oh wow, how horrible, it's not like anyone without autism couldn't easily ignore irreverent shit like this
meanwhile, socialism gave us poverty, mass starvation, multiculturalism and feminism.
Pretty sure I'll take freedom of choice over that, you dumb worthless kike.
>>79276920
Socialism leads to poverty, judaism, economic stagnation and death. It absolutely takes away all creativity white people have.
ALL socialists need to have their throats slit. They need to suffocate.
>>79276920
Also, national socialists are the niggers of white people.
Too stupid to make their own decisions, they want the government to completely control their lives.
They want to live in an african marxist shithole.
>>79276750
Mein Kampf are ramblings of a mad man
>>79276750
Imperium, by Francis Parker Yockey.
Also this https://archive.org/details/pdfy-Xm3KNoxQuBK9mHlX
>>79277205
Wow, thank God we don't only have those two worthless options then. Worthless libertarians can't draw a line I swear. Fucking fundamentalists, like your commie brothers.
>>79275154
> exploitation of the worker
Still in high school I see?
>>79277640
>actual anti-white socialist calling anyone else a fundamentalist
holy fuck I hope you stay poor and in the european union forever you dumb cucks
they raped you, yet you dumb marxists ask for more and more and more
>>79277205
>meanwhile, socialism gave us poverty, mass starvation, multiculturalism and feminism.
That's why Eastern Europe has the least amount of multiculturalism and feminism. Right.
europe needs some good old military dictatorships and then we'll see where we go from there
>>79276402
It's like you're a caricature of a retarded libertarian.
>>79277205
Capitalism profits off of feminism and multiculturalism. Besides capitalism is class war. They wanted to be "free" from structured guild that wouldn't have let any of this happen. Libertarians are free market Marxists.
>>79275154
faith - religious slavery basically, but at least Big Boss usually leaves you alone. The moment he storms your office you will know it's over.
>Constitutional Monarchy
>lolbertarian economic and social policy ringfenced by traditionalist conservative constitution
>>79277758
I notice you ignored the "poverty" and "mass starvation" part
Also, communism spread multiculturalism throughout the west with the KGB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
The only reason eastern europe doesn't has as much multicult and feminism is because they resisted communism
They were based as fuck and fought against it.
>>79277832
>Sweden
LMAO
I literally posted a picture proving you wrong yet you remain brainwashed
How's getting cucked by Abdul working out for you?
>>79277750
Why am I not surprised that you can't argue for shit. You learned that from ((Stefan Molyneux)). Pathetic excuse of a human life, I hope you aren't over 20. Even the "mass starvations" you mention didn't happen after WW2, in Europe at least. Enjoy being more Socialist than the actual Socialists though.
>>79277399
This.
I'm on the far right but national social justice warriors are no different from Marxists. Communists kill poor people who aren't for the revolution. They kill poor people to save poor people. National social justice warriors want to kill whites for the purpose of saving whites.
>>79278008
So they KGB managed to spread multi-culturalism and feminism under the nose of the West, but couldn't enforce it in the territories it 100% controlled? Nice job, Alex Jones. You libertarian freedom fighter!
Shit it's almost like political ideologies have varying strengths and weaknesses and none of them are actually wholly ideal, but some of them are better than others depending on the needs of people or society as a whole, or something.
>>79275154
some form of regulated captialism
but even then, as humans we are prone to corruption
>>79275154
>What options are there, /pol/?
Thoreau.
>>79277876
>Capitalism profits off of feminism and multiculturalism.
Tell that to the new ghostbusters movie.
>Besides capitalism is class war.
Do you believe whatever the jews tell you?
>muh classes
Holy fuck read a biology textbook kid.
>Libertarians are free market Marxists.
Nice string of meaningless words you put together.
>>79278044
>You learned that from ((Stefan Molyneux)).
Not an argument.
:^)
>Pathetic excuse of a human life
You're a fucking marxist, you don't deserve to breathe.
You're TOO STUPID to actually contribute to the white race so you want the state to monopolize all resources.
You people need to be shot in the brain.
>>79278168
>but couldn't enforce it in the territories it 100% controlled?
Yuri said the soviet union wasn't even marxist half the time, they just used marxism to manipulate people, and it worked on idiots like you.
>>79278006
>Policy favours the merchant classes over the land owning aristocracy
>Gets blocked by pro-monarchists
We have been there before and it didn't work. The 19th century was the peak of the British Empire and economical liberalism was tied to that.
>>79277876
> capitalism profits off of feminism
Stopped reading there. Feminism consists of a bunch of old and lonely bitches yelling at movies and video games for showing barely any skin or booty and even going so far as to boycott such things, another thing is that the reason feminism is so prevalent in today's society has to do with the government taking control of education and then getting subverted by cultural Marxists. So that first part literally makes no sense.
>>79278168
They didn't want multi-culti/feminism/SJWism enforced in their own society because they knew how utterly toxic and self defeating it was, hence why they weaponized the ideology, infiltrated Western educational institutions and spread it to great effect within secondary education circles and eventually primary education and the media.
Libertarians believe everyone isn't equal but everyone is equally inequal. Don't they understand that if people are inequal that they have to be inequal? And that means a hierarchy of man is real, even among the same race?
>>79278406
>So that first part literally makes no sense.
You expected marxists to make sense?
>>79278008
>leaf bringing bants
I also was a libertarian when I was 17. What is your picture meant to prove exactly?
Developing countries have less poverty? It even shows that if you exclude China, the change was slower? Implying a regulated market contributes to faster reduction of poverty. Can you read charts?
>>79278168
> couldn't enforce it in their territories
Retard, if I hit you with a pole, I obviously know it's not beneficial, why the fuck would I do it to myself?
>>79278406
Feminism is about work. Motherhood is oppressive. Work is liberating. Got knocked up? Get an abortion and get back to work.
>>79277319
Socialism leads to Judaism? Wow you need to take it easy on Alex Jones videos.
>>79277739
ebin
>>79278555
>And that means a hierarchy of man is real, even among the same race?
This is a fact though.
National socialists are simply SJWs that are egalitarian for white people.
They don't realize everyone is unequal and different, including members of the white race.
>>79278590
>I also was a libertarian when I was 17.
lmao yeah we totally believe you
As if you aren't a projecting 15 year old socialist.
You're the most cucked nation on earth.
>Developing countries have less poverty?
Yes and they also have much less economic freedom and have had this for a while.
The more free market a country is for a period of time, the richer it is and the better off it's citizens are.
>Implying a regulated market contributes to faster reduction of poverty.
There's far far more people in china you dumb fuck.
Since they somewhat liberalized their economy their people have been much much better off.
If they had gone totally totally free market they would be much better off.
Swedes are totally cucked.
>>79278008
Starvation wasn't an issue after the 1940s, with the exception of Romania.
>>79278185
Good post
>>79278773
>mad
Did Pinochet kill your family or something?
>>79278818
It's really not surprising you down syndrome lazy Greeks are so socialist and retarded, you actually want the EU to keep raping you.
You're more almost as cucked than Sweden.
>>79279012
No, I'm not Chilean. I just have a sense of decency.
>>79278809
> feminism is about work
That's not the case, feminism is about female supremacy. Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're going at but a female working isnt inherently bad.
> get an abortion, get back to worK
Libbertarians think that abortion should be illegal since it's the murder of another human being, which violates their NAP.
>>79275154
Yes. It's called subsistence farming. You enjoy all the fruits of your labour and pay little tax. You may have to work 14 hours a day to get by BUT you never get exploited.
>>79275154
Make sure you put a hammer and sicle on your bumper op
I'll gun your commie ass down immediately.
faggot.
>>79276693
People like things I don't like. Better live in socialism and starve to death.
>>79279121
Marxists in Chile actually deserved to die though.
>>79279012
No whiteboi you elected Trudeau so you must be even bigger cucks. Lolbertarian logic ( non existent). Look there's a Jew behind you.
>>79279192
>whiteboi
I love when arab as fuck greeks admit they aren't white.
Please stay poor, you people are so incredibly stupid, I enjoy every last political decision your dumb country makes that pushes you further and further down the toilet bowl.
>you elected Trudeau
>implying I did
>Lolbertarian logic ( non existent).
lol are you from r e d d i t too?
>>79279183
Kek. Nice bantz hans, that was breedy gud
>>79279156
Your NAP is what makes Marxists and leftists walk over you. They do t care about your damn nap. Atleast Stalin had more balls to get rid of the radical leftists unlike the libertarians who are so concerned about respecting everyone's beliefs.
>>79279184
Most people he killed or tortured weren't communist.
>>79279355
Who wants to be in a cuck race anyway?
I'm sure you did vote for Trudeau. Take responsibility for your actions lolbertarian hypocrite.
>>79278891
You're a fucking idiot if you think your picture proves anything.
It's not general for developing nations to move from high regulation to low regulation. What is general, is a large potential for technological improvement compared to industrialised nations.
Even so, the argument can only show that market liberalism is capable of bringing the proportion of people living under the poverty line down, a trend that is completely universal across the world. I could use the same argument to endorse absolutely anything that is common.
Is that actually your best graph?
>>79275154
Idk what India is anymore, Its communist but also democratic. Its conservative but also liberal. And it promotes Nationalism while advocating socialism.
>>79279511
> beliefs
The NAP is the idea that people shouldn't hurt other people or try to rob other people's property, so literally don't act like a nigger and you won't have a problem following it.
You could always be a corporatist like Franco and Salazar with a strong emphasis on the nation, Church and traditionalism. Not communist in any way.
>>79279598
>You're a fucking idiot if you think your picture proves anything.
You're from Sweden.
>It's not general for developing nations to move from high regulation to low regulation.
The only reason they developed in the first place is because their countries allowed lower regulation, property rights and some semblance of freedom.
>Even so, the argument can only show that market liberalism is capable of bringing the proportion of people living under the poverty line down,
Something socialism is unable to do.
PLEASE go live in Venezuela.
You people are so fucking blind when the actual reality of your system is out in the open.
>a trend that is completely universal across the world
Barely barely happening in socialist countries.
What started this trend of poverty reduction in the fucking first place was global capitalism and large increases in freer trade the past 50 or so years.
You gigantic idiot, do you realize how poor people were before this.
Do you realize how poor socialist countries are NOW?
>>79279577
>Who wants to be in a cuck race anyway?
Yes I agree.
So glad I'll never be greek.
So glad I have a brain that can understand argumentation and form my own opinions and beliefs.
Stay a poor third world shithole in the yurozone, you're so fucking dumb lmao kill yourself
>>79279762
Holy shit, thank you.
I remember trying to summarize what the Indian economy was (in a nutshell) and I honestly could not muster up an adequate summary. I couldn't even find accurate poverty statistics, but at least I can sleep easy knowing even an Indian doesn't know shit about it either.
>>79279809
>Being against rape culture is an idea that we should tell men not to rape
>The nap is an idea that we should tell people not to rape.
The nap is just like a feminist idea
>>79280116
> people shouldn't rape
> this is somehow a bad principle
Go to bed Ahmed. Aren't you still fasting?
>>79280001
Honestly though, how old are ye? You sound 15. You've made no arguments other than "your country sucks". P.S. Yours sucks more.
>>79280028
Things are very confusing here, idk how our government can do it but right now they are promoting Capitalism for rich and middle class, and using communism to uplift the poor while being stern democrats. Its like nobody cares that some things just don't get along with each other.
>>79276920
Nope, the welfare state does.
>>79280186
Rape is bad, but telling them not to rape is not going to completely stop them. That is why we make fun of feminists. Libertarians claims that statist are violent but give them the right to be statists. They won't stop statism if the nap includes their enemies.
>>79280194
>you've made no arguments
Except all the arguments I've posted in this thread.
Stay angry you cannot refute anything though
ayy lmao
>>79278168
>but couldn't enforce it in the territories it 100% controlled?
USSR never fully controlled Eastern Europe it was literally military occupation. As soon as USSR demonstrated that it will not send tanks to Praga anymore, EU walked way. there ere no real political and social control. Even more to bribe EU so they will chimpout much many things banned in USSR were allowed in EU. USSR did not have 100% control over situation there.
>>79279406
That's the slave mentality. "Letting" people do things that are harmful to you and your nation isn't libertarian, it's statist and liberal. And you're weak.
>>79280001
Pfff you're so lame in your comebacks butthurt canacuck. l am using your own logic. You elected Trudeau so you are socialists.
>>79278818
Fuck off Alex Jones denying shill
>>79280194
Exactly my thoughts. Hahahaha
>>79275154
Remove jews
>>79275154
>tfw capitalism leads to economic exploitation of the many by the few
LTV has been debunked longer than the Soviet Union existed
>>79280384
Can you just give up already.
How hard do you have to get BTFO here?
Why don't you move to Venezuela if you love socialism so much?
brainwashed cuckhold
>>79280424
>You elected Trudeau so you are socialists.
lmao you've elected every single leftcuck socialist leader imaginable and every single one of them, even your "right wing" politicians is to the left of trudeau economically.
>>79280315
Nah seeing those types in the convention made me really cringe.
>>79280348
So.. what does that specific graph proof? That the industrialized revolution was good? No shit, Marx jerked it over it. What does it have to do with anything? Does this mean I have to let Soros control my life now?
>>79279894
I wonder what else happened in the last 100 years that could increase standards of living... I'll think of it while driving to the pharmacy.
Even though every market is heavily regulated and your own country has trade deals to the protected European internal market. The countries that you decide are Socialist, are STILL REDUCING POVERTY. You even contradict yourself on this matter, saying socialism is unable to reduce poverty while admitting it is (barely) happening.
I mean there are private companies in Venezuela and there are state-owned companies in both of our countries.
So... what the fuck are you talking about?
Why can't you admit that a regulated market works best? Why should we yield the ability to steer the market in ways that serve higher purposes?
>>79280568
>A FUCKING LEAF
>Calling any other country cucked
>mysides.jpg
You sound like a major autist. Your idiotic rambling makes people hate capitalism more. Just stop posting.
>>79280347
True on the rape part, but there's certain fundamental problems with your analogy and comparing it to Libertarians and their attitude toward statists. A.) They don't act violently toward the government because they wouldn't win, and B.) for some there are more peaceful means of achieving things.
We're plagued with a lot in this life that we disagree with, doesn't mean we shoot everything with a gun and that's most definitely true in a fight where you have no hopes of winning.
>>79280568
Give up what, I'm toying with your slavish brain. Go ahead, post some other meaningless graph for my amusement, little whore. You don't even know what you're arguing. Free trade? Libertarianism? Industrialization? What?
>>79280654
>No shit, Marx jerked it over it
Marx has the downs and was completely wrong about nearly everything.
If you support marx in any way you are the biggest anti-white cuckold imaginable.
>Does this mean I have to let Soros control my life now?
You ALREADY DO.
You people WORSHIP Soros.
In fact any time I think of Soros I think of Greece and what you dumb cucks have let him do to your country.
>>79280568
Dou you even know Karamanlis and Mitsotakis? Papadopoulos maybe? Simitis?Tell me more about my history 15 year old socialist canacuck.
>>79280813
I am pro-capitalist, that's the joke. Yet this Libertarian NEET should be casually shot.
>>79275154
Just automate everything
>>79280856
I said that Marx made the same point as you about the industrial revolution. The rest of your post is incoherent. What a waste.
There's been a lot of interesting non capitalist projects in the world, but US imperialism sabotages them before they can truly grow. Rojava at the moment is the great white hope for a progressive society but even still they are under attack from Turkey.
>>79280928
I agree. He sounds like a child who just got beat up by an edgy marxist at middle school so he has to vent here.
Im a from a third party, its called rastafarism
>>79280804
>sweden
>I wonder what else happened in the last 100 years that could increase standards of living...
A gigantic increase in economic freedom and rule of law, all which has preceded and been a integral part of this massive increase in prosperity and technology?
>The countries that you decide are Socialist, are STILL REDUCING POVERTY.
LMAO
Dude most countries around the world are reducing poverty.
The ones that are either reducing it extremely slowly or actually CREATING poverty are the socialist ones.
You're too fucking stupid to realize this.
What do you have to say about Venezuela? Seriously.
>saying socialism is unable to reduce poverty
Socialism can slightly reduce poverty by using capitalist tools and technologies. That's basically why the USSR didn't collapse right after lenin.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/
Otherwise it fails ginormously and 9 times out of 10 it creates poverty.
>Why can't you admit that a regulated market works best?
Because reason and evidence shows it doesn't.
>I mean there are private companies in Venezuela
Yes which the government has destroyed most of.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY DUMB ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THESE POLICIES
HOLY FUCK SWEDEN HOW KEKED CAN YOU GET?
>>79280871
>>79280568
You were doing great and were successful (Ancient Greece) then you had a crazy lover (Ottoman Empire) things went horrible for you and more when you two broke up but you managed yourself. You forced yourself into an another relationship on fear of dying alone (EU) but it was total shit. You got into depression and now you are pathetic drunk loser who are once a rich and famous but is in a huge debt now.
Here I summed your history for the leaf.
>>79280813
>switzerland
You're the most capitalist country in europe.
I defend you on /pol/.
and this is how you repay me?
>>79280928
>I was only pretending to be retarded
LMAO You can almost taste the asspain.
>>79281146
You must be the small minority of leftists in Switzerland and probably got ripped on in school and are now shitposting about it online.
>>79281143
Don't think they are against private property but they trying to have a more communal society and put women in a more equal standing. Right?>>79281143
>>79281146
The perils of American (and Canadian) "education". It's either tele-evangelists or YouTube Cult leaders. This guy got the short end on both.
>>79275154
>communism
>belief that there should be an ever on going political revolution
>capitalism
>belief that there should be an ever on going market revolution
At their core, they're not too different.
>>79279894
>that pic
How does that have anything to do with capitalism?
>>79281485
> I defend you and this is how you repay me?
I'm starting to think you're a shill trying to make people look retarded.
>>79280846
>I was only pretending, I swear
>>79281533
How in the world are you still posting.
You have absolutely no argument
I bet you ejaculated when some random anon came to defend you, you degenerate.
>>79278115
>They kill poor people to save poor people. National social justice warriors want to kill whites for the purpose of saving whites.
both certainly works and makes sense. cancer must be cut out before it becomes too big of a burdon.
>>79281485
Capitalism =/= your bullshit. All rational people support capitalism, but not every idiot who pretends to be the capitalist "guru". Those are mostly college dropouts and failed philosophers. Also, no one has defended Marxism or Socialism ITT. You're grasping at straws, and this is the nth time you spill your spaghetti, I almost like you. Now! 1$!
>>79281390
Nah Raj, Greece had industry and was self sufficient in food production. In the long term yes EU subsidies and de industrialization fucked us up. In a very broad sense the same applies to India that now begins to emerge as a serious player.
>>79281304
In terms you'll understand: Not an argument!
Show me some of that reason or evidence... Pending that, I'll remain firmly in the third position. You cannot govern with dignity if you base your values in private profit, consumption, indulgance, immorality, selfishness, individualism. And you cannot promote sacrifice, discipline, honor, morality and community by merely promoting a free-market.
Giving up higher values for 'totally cool quadcopters' is infinity cucked.
>>79279538
They probably still believed in leftist heresies.
>>79281609
>what are jokes
:^)
>>79281835
>All rational people support capitalism
Thanks for agreeing with me.
Some cucks in this thread disagree though.
>Also, no one has defended Marxism or Socialism ITT. You're grasping at straws, and this is the nth time you spill your spaghetti, I almost like you. Now! 1$!
>who is OP?
>who is you using your computer and not your cellphone at the beginning of the thread
This is too good. Please stay in the EU. I enjoy seeing you guys get cucked.
>>79281858
So are you planning to vote out of EU or nah?
>>79281485
>I defend you on /pol/.
I don't need defense from a retard. You're a disgrace to capitalists.
>probably got ripped on in school
>n-no y-you!
Pathetic.
>>79281533
Yeah he definitely fell for /pol/ meme channels hard.
>>79281949
Capitalism itself was closer to third position in the times of national capitalism (when international finance wasn't so relevant). Those industry types, like Henry Ford, were pretty patriotic. And yet this faggot pretends to know more! Sad!
>>79275154
Benevolent dictatorship by AI overlords
>>79281304
>>79281949
I'd listen to Sweden, he's an expert in all things cuck related. And the West is pretty fucking degenerate. Ignore it long enough and you'll just end up in a walled hermit kingdom, alienated in your own country. Moral and cultural relativism and the "free" market have created a monster.
>>79275154
Both ideoligies in their pure form are bad, you have to combine the 2 like pretty much every Western country does.
Every non retard should have realized this by now.
>>79275154
>Human society leads to economic exploitation of the many by the few
fixed for ya, that's how world works and how will ever work, communist or socialist calls for equality are just underhanded tricks from new elite in the making.
>>79281949
>Show me some of that reason or evidence...
Not an argument.
:^)
>I'll remain firmly in the third position.
Yes, enjoy hating white people and wanting to live in poverty. Enjoy destroying any creativity whites ever had.
Oh boy here we go:
>private profit,
>consumption,
>People are enjoying the fruits of their labour, how horrible!!
>indulgance,
>People are enjoying the fruits of their labour, how horrible!!
>immorality,
We're not socialists, remember.
>selfishness,
There's nothing wrong with giving a shit about yourself and having self respect you collectivist faggot.
>individualism.
This is what western civilization is based upon.
Henry Ford shits on you people.
You ARE a leftist, why do you try to deny it?
>>79282082
We did. July 15 referendum. But it failed. In time and as destruction furthers people will be more adamant and confident to leave the EU.
>>79275154
Incorruptable AI ruler.
Everyone should know by that there is productive capitalism (mainly represented by scientists, engineers, technicians, labourers, farmers) and consumerist capitalism (mainly represented by the media, banks, retail, advertisement, etc.). Guess where you'll find the most libertarians: in do-nothing jobs. Just go to one of their conventions. They're all in low-to-mid management and talk like the next Steve Jobs.
>>79281512
Yeah they call their model Democratic Confederalism. Heavily influenced by the writings of Murray Bookchin. It doesn't coherently into any label, there's anarchism, libertarianism, feminism etc. It's a stew of all these.
It's not perfect, you're right about private property and they also (somewhat reluctantly I gather) have a police force. But in the middle of a region of perpetual economic stability and backward values, Rojava is a fucking beacon of light.
They're building an iron, entirely democratic framework. I just hope Turkey and Assad leaves them alone to continue doing their thing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/5a7b18b5-0ec3-3d3e-a307-54820a7c6a59
Good article on it that explains it better than me.
>>79282147
Kek
>>79282562
Best of luck to you and your nation pal.
>>79282597
who /enclave/ here?
>>79282147
>I'm a real capitalist guise, I'm only defending leftism in a marxism thread because this one dude is annoying, I swear
>>79276402
Best leafpost I ever seen
>>79278115
>>79277399
wow great points (((anons))), i'm a #libertarianmissle now
>>79277319
>Socialism gives us death
>murder all socialists
Shitposting filtered to leafposting when?
>>79275154
get rich or die trying
>>79282729
BRACE YOURSELF LEAF, AUTUMN IS COMING.
>>79282671
Thanks, u too.
>>79282729
Never said whether said whether I supported capitalism or not. The only thing apparent in this thread is your unmedicated autism.
How can you seriously get in a back and forth with someone who can't go a sentence without spewing "cuck" "cultural marxism" "nigger" "faggot" etc. I know that essentially invalidates 90% of posters of this board, but nothing good will ever come of it.
Try and read this book, it's interesting: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Promise:_An_Economic_History_of_the_United_States
>>79276693
>the (((free))) market
Behind every degenerate performer/artist is a merchant producer.
Capitalism is for generating wealth, Socialism is for redistributing some of that wealth to the poor.
Both work well together there is no need to just pick one of them.
Unregulated Capitalism leads to continuous suffering and exploitation of the poor and that's just not sustainable in the long run. You can't have a peaceful society when the majority are close to revolting.
>>79275154
>exploitation of the many by the few
This is what nature planned
As long as human society has tribal units any larger than the family or the individual
>>79282662
Yeah, they even have military police but that's expected given the circumstances. Don't think they will create a separate state but have increased autonomy. Mainly that's why the Arab spring happened too. People want democracy. If Rojava succeeds it will be a paradigm.
Eventually you see that Hitler was trying to fight the eternal jew with his right and left soldiers of capitalism and communism.
National Socialism and anti-semitism are the 2 things necessary for humanity and modern society to survive.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc
>>79275154
> Get gun
> Be hillbilly
> Fight Political impositions by the state honey-pot and the mad bees drawn to it.
> DIY everything
You don't need to be a shit-tier moron to be thrifty. You do need to raise your voice.
>>79283586
Yeah, the thing is that distribution could be done without socialism. It has to, if it's going to work. Also, check this book >>79283446
>>79283586
>Socialism is for redistributing some of that wealth to the poor.
Which slows the economy down in the long term,
>Both work well together there is no need to just pick one of them.
No, they don't. That doesn't make any sense, not just on principle but in implementation it's just cancer.
>Unregulated Capitalism leads to continuous suffering and exploitation of the poor and that's just not sustainable in the long run
Like what?
>>79282998
Breaking the cycle would be a rational and humane option if the assertions were correct.
>>79282998
>we shouldn't kill people that want to kill us
Please invite violent niggers in your house for a dinner party pls
>>79283213
>Never said whether said whether I supported capitalism or not.
Alright so I'm assuming you don't.
That only makes your asspain more apparent.
>>79283446
This guy is a keynesian jew that favors massive levels of government debt.
Hamilton wanted to create a banking cartel in the USA, the same the americans JUST finished fighting the British over.
Jackson > Hamilton.
The only solution is destroying all semblance of civilization and going back to being beasts
>>79275154
>Are we forced to choose between economic slavery and political slavery?
Not at all, with communism you can have both!
>>79283926
Jews are some of the best capitalists and economists.
Will you have them shot too?
>>79283926
I don't have to be asspained. Socialism is inevitable with automation. I win.
Yet you will always be a faggot.
>>79283722
>Don't think they will create a separate state but have increased autonomy.
Yeah I think that's all they want to. Obviously there's a strong element of Kurdish patriotism in the region but the fact that they can put aside petty nationalism for a just society, no matter what flag or name it's under, is very admirable. Assad wouldn't agree to the whole autonomy thing though. They're tolerant to the Kurds as the moment because they largely steer clear off each other and have a common enemy, but that won't be the case for every. There's already been a few flair ups between the Syrian Army and Kurdish forces.
>>79283586
>Unregulated Capitalism leads to continuous suffering and exploitation of the poor and that's just not sustainable in the long run.
"Regulated" capitalism is what makes the poor poor in the first place.
"Regulated" capitalism destroys savings, increases prices and lowers wages.
>>79284188
Automation is what destroyed socialism.
As capitalism inevitably gets prices down to zero, there will be no more need for economic systems anymore because everything will be free.
>>79283850
>like what
Monopolies and oligopolies take over politics and begin exploiting the system rather than competing in it.
>>79284654
>free market monopolies
lmao this meme again
>>79283926
>genocide is fine when I commit it
Leafposters everyone
>>79284152
Gas would be more deserved
>>79284440
Assad even if he pushes isis back will be way too weak to attack the Kurds full-scale. Even the Americans won't allow it . That retard Erdogan is dangerous though.
>>79284744
Try making a social media website when facebook has a monopoly on the advertising contracts.
Businesses have ways of shutting out the competition and then buying politicians to enact even more policies to defend their position at the top.
I'm as anti-socialist as they come, but jews accumulating wealth AND THEN INTENTIONALLY USING IT TO buy government and fulfill biblical prophecies is a huge problem
>>79284762
Lol
>>79284654
> monopolies and oligopolies
Which doesn't happen in a free market unless the monopoly in question is voluntary (meaning people only buy from that particular business because they're good)
>>79285127
Once you accumulate enough wealth you can buy anything with enough of a goyim-hating, jewish supremacy complex.
>>79285033
>has a monopoly on the advertising contracts.
>countless other advertising methods
>monopoly
Do leftists even know the definition of words
>hurr it's a big company so it's a monopoly
>and then buying politicians to enact even more policies to defend their position at the top.
Wow you mean something libertarians have been saying for fucking DECADES and aggressively fight against?
You don't say.
>>79285243
>Once you accumulate enough wealth you can buy anything
Not if you have a government that fights against buying influence.
Not if you have Trump or a free market type in charge.
It happened before it can happen again.
>>79285127
>acquire enough FINANCE to purchase MEDIA
>oligopolize MEDIA in order to control POLITICS
>control POLITICS and rig the FINANCIAL system
Control FINANCE MEDIA and POLITICS through extreme wealth and oligopolies run by jewish nepotism and capitalism slowly becomes an oligarchy for the jewish elite.
As a group, they believe they are superior and want to enslave/genocide the goyim
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
>>79275154
>What Options Are there?
As if you need to ask, friend
>>79278406
Thus creating a market for products without those things/ critical of those things to buy into to sate their anger and as a sales point. The punk scene is a perfect example of arbitrary social division for the purpose of codification.
>>79285243
>Once you accumulate enough wealth you can buy anything with enough of a goyim-hating, jewish supremacy complex.
Not to be a meme, but what did you mean by this? Like what are you referring to?
>>79283926
Speaking of inviting niggers, didn't you invite them from Africa to put down your forest fire.
>>79285350
>Everybody who doesn't agree with me is a leftist
Libertarians are so bloody annoying.
>>79285350
>if your government isn't corrupt
Well why would our government ever stop being corrupt?
Even non-jews like Clinton sell out their people for a few shekels
>>79275154
Monarchy
>>79285655
tbqh Hillary sold your country's interests plenty of times to us Indians.
>>79284934
Turks need to oust Erdogan before he installs himself fully as Supreme Leader tbqh. The absolute madman.
>>79285579
Say you have unlimited money
Plenty of good goys would just set up a comfortable life for them and their family and retire.
Jews want to take over the world so they use greed to accumulate vast amounts of unspendable wealth that has only 1 true purpose: to buy the world and enslave/genocide the goyim.
They want 90% of the worlds population to clear out
>>79285639
I didn't say that at all.
Are you okay?
>>79285562
>Thus creating a market for products without those things/ critical of those things to buy into to sate their anger and as a sales point.
Doesn't necessarily mean it's profitable. A good case study of this would be Chris Avellone who worked on the Fallout games, he would go on to make a game tailored for SJWs, but it would fail, as he forgot one thing. Feminists like to bitch at video games, not actually play them.
>>79275154
There is a viable alternative. Its called Social Democracy, the dominant societal model in pretty much all first world countries except the US.
>What options are there, /pol/?
Finland
>>79277758
You're braindead. The reason there's less degeneracy behind former Iron Curtain is that all the guys behind 68' cultural revolution in the West were Soviet agents. You don't sabotage your allies, you sabotage your enemies.
>>79285760
That's what I am saying.
Media jewish oligopoly makes politics a rigged game of manipulating facebook/fox news/article reading retards
Whoever has the jewish media oligarchy on their side is pretty much guaranteed to win without a Trump to try and break througn
>>79276266
If you nationalize everything, then you got Socialism, it's not like Hitler didn't do exactly the same as Stalin. Hitler got also other plans, so did Stalin, but core of Socialism is nationalism and self-sufficient country with managed cultures so people have their rights to language and don't mix with each other. Capitalism on other hand is melting pot without culture and wide open borders, since capitalism doesn't cares about people, naturally doesn't cares about race, may the best fraud win.
>>79285804
Okay, so let's follow this example
>Jews want to take over the world so they use greed to accumulate vast amounts of unspendable wealth that has only 1 true purpose: to buy the world and enslave/genocide the goyim.
Then just don't allow jews in the country and try to keep a homogeneous nation while you're at it. There! Problem solved.
>>79281949
> You cannot govern with dignity if you base your values in private profit, consumption, indulgance, immorality, selfishness, individualism. And you cannot promote sacrifice, discipline, honor, morality and community by merely promoting a free-market.
Do you think that without the hand of the government in economic and social life, individuals wouldn't do anything to promote these values in their community? They wouldn't have a single shred of extra goodwill for disciplined, honorable, moral people, dedicated to a cause higher than themselves? They would be just as likely to associate with them, hire them, buy from them, loan to them, listen and follow them as the completely immoral and depraved?
If that's the true nature of the individuals in a society, a government institution is the last thing that would save them. Government drives to plant these values where they lack have only ever manufactured pomp and paperwork. And now blind belief in government has led to societies that already cherished these values to deliberately poison themselves with people who don't, all paid through taxes.
>>79285918
Bernie Sanders tried with that and Americans treated him as if he were the reanimated bones of Karl Marx and running for president.
>>79286101
Nicely said.
>>79285760
Too bad she didn't sell India any toilets.
>>79285842
You implied it here >>79285350
>Do leftists even know the definition of words
and here >>79282489
>You ARE a leftist, why do you try to deny it?
and here >>79281485
>You must be the small minority of leftists in Switzerland
>>79286101
Every government influences people, but fact is that capitalistic governments influence people into being broken so they spend more money on fixing things.
>>79286113
I think decades of anti-communist propaganda have rendered Americans incapable of even contemplating ideas such as a regulated economy or a welfare state. Still Bernie gave Hillary a run for her money, which is saying a lot considering the popularity and connections of the Clinton family, and the fact that Hillary is a woman, which unfortunately, by itself, should attract the female vote.
>>79286019
There are other groups that will try to do similar like muslims and communists but they don't have the IQ and effective nepotism to take over anything.
Muslims and shitskins will outbreed a democracy and turn it into sharia law or gibs me dat it into the ground.
I prefer a white majority woth a big asian minority, a few hard working hispanics and a handful of athletic negroes or ben carsons. Other than that bend the knee to the bill of rights or get out
>>79286113
Because we are heterogenous, extremely divided and buried in debt to the fed.
Socialism doesn't fix anything under those 3 circumstances, it destroys
Fuck Bernie Sanders. If you really like socialism, at least support this kike and fuck up Clinton's base
>>79284586
>everything will be free
Yes, because everyone will benefit from automated production equally. aka socialism.
>>79286516
>I prefer a white majority woth a big asian minority, a few hard working hispanics and a handful of athletic negroes or ben carsons. Other than that bend the knee to the bill of rights or get out
No disagreements there, that can be kept with what you suggested. Libertarians suggest the elimination of a welfare state, which many minorities tend to find fairly attractive and so they come here. With this gone, the only people that the country would attract would be intelligent and productive human beings. (Just look at immigration statistics on welfare, I think it was over 60% of legal immigrants are currently relying of welfare programs and government subsidies). As far as I know, there's a large amount of Libertarians who don't tend to be too opposing to the ideas of borders. So there's that as well.
>>79286513
Fuck bernie sanders
JUST BECAUSE IT WORKS IN HOMOGENOUS UNIFIED COUNTRIES NOT IN DEBT DOESNT MEAN IT WOULD WORK IN THE US
>>79284586
Automation isn't Socialism, that's capitalism. Automation is when you work in factory and you barely survive day and day out, that's what's happening now in EU in same companies who provided enough money in past and people were happy working there, had vacation, now they don't have vacation and sometimes not even salary.
>>79286685
The point I'm making is that Sanders would be perceived as a establishment centrist in Europe, but in America many think of him as a hardline communist. Your people are retarded and so is your two party system.
>>79286113
> Bernie Sanders
Yeah, get fucked. That retard is barely qualified to run a taco bell, let alone an entire nation.
>not taking the ultimate redpill
feudalism - it is the system of Japanese and European ancestors and was the only sytem which worked for benefit of all and not just merchants, a.k.a. (((capitalists)))
>>79286789
I don't even care about closing the borders 100% just this obama clinton sanders merkel nonsense of allowing anybody and everybody in has got to be stopped and building a wall is the lesser of the evils.
SECURE OUR FUCKING BORDER POLITICIANS JESUS CHRIST
>>79287025
forgot pic
remember your heritage anons!
>>79287030
I feel you senpai, It's not a good feeling.
>>79286830
The most developed and complex societies in Europe, France, Germany and UK follow a social-democratic model, and the standard of living is quite good. Also, these three countries have a debt, measured as percentage of the GDP, higher than the US. Also, no matter the social model, no society works with uncontrolled public debt.
Anyway, your reaction perfectly illustrates my point, decades of anti-communist propaganda have rendered many Americans incapable of even contemplating alternative models of society, whereas in Europe, Social Democracy is essentially a balancing act of socialism and capitalism, and the best option to keep fascism at bay.
>>79287110
Samurai were assassins and they terrorized people on orders of wealthy, they were nothing more than hired mercenary. While ninjas are said to be women. Samurai were like European knights, they too terrorized peasants and extracted tax and crop from them, nothing but hired king's mercenary.
I love socialism, but only for my tribe, hence the national part being added to it.
>>79286913
Our people are retarded so we have to paint him as a commie (his past suggests he actually seriously is in more ways than one) because he would be a DISASTER for the US
Complete disaster.
You can't understand not wanting to pay taxes for hordes of shitskins that are just waiting for the government to take your guns so they can start a rape/race war.
THE US IS NOT LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES
WE HAVE GUNS TO STOP OURSELVES FROM KILLING EACH OTHER
TRY HAVING 30% OF YOUR POPULATION BE VIOLENT SHITSKINS LIVING OFF WELFARE WITH ILLEGAL WEAPONS
>>79286913
Also multi party systems feed a divide/conquer tactic of the dominant party.
Just look what is happening to most of europe. The primary party divides and conquers the voters for the 2nd 3rd and 4th parties 90% of the time.
>>79276693
Hip-hop was sustained by socialist policies in America and the resentment of being provisioned for at the bottom rung like slaves. They lived but lived poorly and wanted to be seen as entrepreneurs and "ballers"
>>79287492
Pretty sure capitalism is the root of materialistic hip-hop culture
>>79287030
>Expecting Politicians to ever do anything
Got bad news for you, senpai
>>79287302
HETEROGENOUS
HEAVILY DIVIDED
WHY DO YOU THINK WE WOULD PAY INCREASED TAXES FOR SHITSKINS TO FLOOD OUR COUNTRY WITH MORE DEMOCRATS THAT ULTIMATELY WANT TO KILL US AND DESTROY OUR NATION WETHER INTENTIONALLY OR THROUGH STUPIDTY (IT DOESNT MATTER WHICH)
You cherry pick and reject the facts that the USA is different than your socialist welfare eurocuck states in ways that make a socialist welfare state a disasterous idea.
The only reason poor blacks dont spread out and rape/rob more white neighborhoods is because of the 2nd amendment. We are legally allowed to shoot them if they do that so they stick to inner city ghettos
>>79287628
Was there ever a good leader that studied politology? Leader and politician, maybe there is a difference.
>>79287628
That's why Trump.
Look at all the butthurt king niggers and popes saying NEVER TRUMP.
Even if trump is a jew plant, who cares? As long as the politicians get massive butthurt its all fair
>>79287817
Your views are completely childish. I would be surprised if you were older than 16.
>>79287978
>not an argument
>>79277319
>Socialism leads judaism
"Comrade Stalin, where all the bolsheviks went?"
>tfw
>>79288004
Neither is anything you've said. Your whole premise is "ITS TOO HARD WAHH"
>>79275154
Being a rational human being.
>>79287977
>Jew Plant
Not an option. Trump has seen enough kikery to last a lifetime when he was starting out in new york. Then, he became a billionaire and saw how things really work.
Remember that Trump had friends in those towers, and he knows who did this. This is personal for him, he's running because he wants to fix things for real this time.
Also notice how forced his pro isreal comments are sometimes, and how he subtly tells them that he will not bend the knee to them(He will make sure that Isreal and Palestine will sit down and make an agreement, he didn't say it like he was suggesting it but like he was going to force them to do it)
Trump is his own agent, working for himself, but he knows that he will never get there without the kike's approval, remember that Trump is a 4D chessmaster, he knows what he's doing
>>79288118
I actually gave reasons why socialism would not work in the USA.
Combination of debt, heterogenous population and being extremely divided means that we would never in 100 years gladly tax ourselves enough to pay for niggers to go to college and get free heart surgeries for all their fucking cheeseburgers.
We would collapse or at the very least have a terrible 4 years with that socialist retard bernie sanders in the whitehouse.
>this thread
>>79276750
Mein Kampf is literally The Art Of The Deal of the 1920s.
Trump is literally Hitler.
>>79288298
I believe all that but I also see his kids being married to elite globalist jews.
Even if he wins and is what you say, never underestimate the kikes. They will possibly use his kids against him. Remember, the guys Trump is really against, have no limits to how far they will go if Trump is legit
>>79288355
>Combination of debt
>100 years gladly tax ourselves enough to pay for niggers to go to college and get free heart surgeries for all their fucking cheeseburgers.
That's because you're too busy giving bailout to CEOS after they fuckup their corporations. You have plenty of money, just have no idea how to prioritize funds.
>heterogenous population
Means nothing. The average person doesn't care about this. See: >>79288148
>being extremely divided
Plenty of other laws are passed in the divided nation.
Like I said earlier, socialism is inevitable. What will Trump do when 3 million+ transportation jobs are nonexistant after automation? When even more are taken from the service industry when the minimum wage increases? There simply won't be enough jobs to replace them. Without social programs, what do you think those 3million+ people are going to do to survive?
>>79283727
>That sounds different, so it has to be better
>>79288355
The reason your society is heavily divided is due to the lack of a welfare state. That's why people are forced to fend for themselves by any means necessary, including petty crime and violent crime. This is why crime rates are so ridiculously huge in the US, and conversely so low in western Europe. Seriously, where I live murder rates are so low that every single murder gets report on TV, and we are not exactly a rich country.
Besides, modern France, Germany and UK are not homogeneous societies, yet crime rates have remained low. By now you should know why.
>>79285970
Couldn't agree more.
>>79286250
Is that how you became "the great united states" by selling toilets?
>>79288298
To solve crime and corruption you normally need somebody who wasn't part of the system, because basic human logic which goes like this: "i am comfy in this, i know this, why change in which i am comfy?" Greatest leaders of humanity and greatest beneficiary of humans were always uneducated people. You can't expect a lawyer who learned all the established laws and keeps on learning it every day for decades to suddenly say: "lets throw this away and start with something new" Instead a lawyer will look for holes in the law and use them. Laws during capitalism, even financial credits and medications isn't getting less complex, it's getting more complex to introduce more holes in law. When they flood you will anarchy from Africa even better, when no borders even better, more ways to steal. Drugs, crime and prostitution is thriving when no control and complex laws.
>>79275154
Bernie Sanders is mein only solution, and that is final.
Sanders 2016!
>>79288874
> The US has a lack of a welfare state
Nigger, are you retarded?
>>79275154
Nationalist Libertarianism that wont allow crony capitalism.
>>79288916
Fuck off bernie
>>79275154
Theology
>>79289114
Was Bernie not part of established politics or what?
>>79288594
I mean come one! It's 2015!
> Also Soros is trying to put Merkel in the frame for open borders.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3666511/Merkel-s-open-door-policy-caused-Britain-leave-EU-German-leader-blamed-Brexit-failure-deal-migrant-crisis-open-arms-immigration-policy.html
Tut tut, silly girl!
>>79289032
You don't have a national pension scheme, you don't have paid parental leave, you don't have universal healthcare, you don't have free/cheap public higher education. Do you have unemployment benefits?
I guess its a testimony to the incompetence of the American political cradle that you don't have proper welfare and yet manage to spend as much on ti as the UK (GDP wise). Then again, when everything is a business (the education business, the healthcare business, the retirement fund business) I guess that's to be expected. Plus the fact that political campaigns are privately funded means lawmakers can't afford to prioritize public interest.
>>79289905
*cadre, not cradle lol
>>79289905
> you don't have paid parental leave, you don't have universal healthcare, you don't have free/cheap public higher education. Do you have unemployment benefits?
Oh, we've got quite a comparable colelction.
> close to 200 or more federal/state programs
> including 23 low income health programs
> 27 low income housing programs
> 30 employment and training programs
> 34 social services programs
> at least 13 food and nutrition programs
> and 24 low income child care programs
Federal and state governments spend a trillion dollars a year just on these means tested welfare programs, which does not include Social and Medicare. That is more than we spend on national defense. It adds up to roughly $17,000 per person in poverty, over $50,000 for a poor family of three.
And the myth that this helps anyone is beyond retarded. All we've done is created a dependent and parasitic class which is unproductive and tends to commit crime due to the fact that most of these retards on welfare programs tend to be spics and niggers
Get fucked, you incompetent imbecile.
The only option is that the many benefit from economic exploitation of robots.
The future is coming, are you ready to be economically useless and not know what to do with yourself because the only 2 human jobs left are SKILLED ARTISAN and AI ENGINEER?
>>79290334
It'd probably be way more economically beneficial if we just got rid of all that shit and straight up gave 17k a year to each person in poverty.
>>79290334
he already countered this:
> its a testimony to the incompetence of the American political cradle that you don't have proper welfare and yet manage to spend as much on ti as the UK (GDP wise).
GET FUCKED dumbass. Your system is absolute shit bc you refuse to acknowledge the need then halfass it.
>>79290334
>>79290501
Precisely, there are so many complex, ad-hoc social programs in the US that end up not actually solving anything. I guess that is why you manage to spend so much on welfare, yet lack comprehensive, universal welfare services (they aren't just for the poor btw, over here you are entitled to welfare regardless of your net worth).
I mean, if political campaigns were public funded in the US, and people stopped worrying so much with accusations of communism/socialism, you would be able to provide better welfare with less expenditure.
Just to give you an example, one of the reasons medical care is so expensive in the US is because doctors are very expensive. Why? Because they themselves are saddled with student loans from their time in college and medical school. This is plain ridiculous, and symptomatic of a system were people seem incapable of prioritizing the common good.
>>79290501
One of great lies of capitalists:
- Socialism had welfare.
Truth: Everybody got a job anywhere you wanted.
- Social Democracy is Socialism
Truth: Democracy is a political party voting system, Socialism is a people's party voting system.
- big government means lots of laws
Truth: Big government means lots of employed by government.
- Jews use universities to subvert people into mixing
Truth: No universities during Socialism, you learned through work.
>>79275154
>restore the dignity
>romanticizing labor
When do you imagine people toiling in filth ever had dignity? What magical era of fairness was that? If this dignity is to be restored, surely it must have existed at some point.
Dignity is an attitude, a sureness of self. I'm not sure how to instill dignity in the labor force, but I'm sure it's not by teaching them to pity themselves.
>>79275154
All statism is inherently exploitative.
Hierarchy forces resources towards the top.
It must be the obligation of the elite to share in some the power, handing it down for the masses to benefit, and the duty of the masses to accept they get less for having a lesser burden.
This was the original goal of marxism
>>79288874
>>79288741
I love how you people who have never lived here for your whole life try to act like you understand our politics and how our demographics interact.
1. Our government is a corrupt oligarchy at this point so yeah they fuck up everything and this election with Trump is the last hope.
2. There our so many reasons for our divided country, and "the welfare state not being big enough" is not even close to the top of the list why. We have a fucking welfare state already and it is heavily abused by drug dealing ($0 reported legal income qualifies for welfare benefits) niggers and retarded government funded baby shitters.
>>79291174
>Everybody got a job anywhere you wanted.
Everywhere who wanted? The worker?
I guess no one shoveled horse shit off the streets then.
Maybe they worked anywhere the party wanted instead?
>>79285987
>If you nationalize everything, then you got Socialism, it's not like Hitler didn't do exactly the same as Stalin.
I love this meme
>>79291055
>Doctors are expensive because they are buried in debt from school
You are making way to loose connections there buddy.
Have you ever been to the poor parts of the US? Have you ever interacted with the people? Have you ever seen what happens when you give them the resources to improve their life? You frequently get guns, drugs, alcohol, jewelry and a shitload of lottery tickets.
These people are paid to not work and to shit out as many kids as possible. Why do you have these insane fantasies about a socialist usa?
>>79291679
You have 200+ year old constitution which also happens to be the least changed constitution in the world. How retarded you guys actually aer that you thought that your founding fathers were so great that they predicted that United States will stay the same even after 200 + years and there would be no change necessary in the constitution?
We got Independence a mere 6 decades ago, we have the most revised constitution on Earth and still its not enough.
>>79275154
Technocracy lol
>>79292071
As long as you will let any fucker buy a legal gun as easily buying milk, nothing will improve.
>>79292136
>more revisions = better
>we just dont have enough revisions
You buy into the propaganda pajeet.
Our constitution has many amendments, but the Bill of Rights should be closely followed with only the smallest of changes
>>79292071
Are you denying that doctors are expensive because they have to pay their student loans? No seriously, go ahead and deny reality.
>>79292275
They buy them illegally pajeet
Until we close the border, mexico has a billion dollar drug and gun running business to the southern usa
>>79292136
>We got Independence a mere 6 decades ago, we have the most revised constitution on Earth and its still not enough
Yeah, you ever thought that maybe that might just be the problem?
>>79291814
We had Socialistic actions where anybody applies that wanted to clean up the environment, many people done so and there was no horse shit on streets, since we didn't had horses shitting all over the place.
