https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXTiiz99p9o
More propaganda to empower obese people, liberals done did it again son.
>>79166360
I like where they basically say one of the bad side effects of working out is that you lose weight and thus the amount of weight your able to lose by doing absolutely nothing goes down.
>>79166360
Sounds plausible to me. It's not like they're saying exercising doesn't work.
>>79166963
Yea.... Although everything they said was technically correct, the way the video plays out very much discourages exercise.
>>79166360
this video is mostly correct but it's framed in such a stupid fucking way. Sure, excercise doesn't do much in terms of weight loss, but it contributes to muscle growth and works best when coupled with eating right.
Virtually nothing new that a dietician/average non tard has known for a hundred years in this video.
>>79166360
Calories in < calories out
>>79166360
>More propaganda to empower obese people, liberals done did it again son.
how? it just says put the fork down
Eating less is the best way to lose weight. This has never been in doubt.
>>79166360
the best way to lose weight is to stop eating like a hippo
but exercise is the second best way to lose weight and should be done anyway
>Lift weights
>muscle mass increases
>basal metabolic rate increases
PROFIT
>>79167373
Not all calories are equal. Fats, carbs, and proteins have different effects on the body.
https://kat.cr/why-we-get-fat-and-what-to-do-about-it-pdf-t7022550.html
Exercise helps, but only if you want to do it and don't view it as a chore that you should be rewarded for.
>>79167705
I see, so if you eat less calories than you burn, it's possible to gain weight. Oh wait no it isn't you fucking retard.
>>79166360
They are right,fatties barely lose any weight exercising they burn like 200 calories at the most and then over eat by 2000, net result is a fatter fuck. Abs are made in the kitchen.
>>79167705
That link is to a torrent of a pdf that I urge anyone who wants to lose weight and eat healthier to read.
can confirm
lost 60 pounds in the last 5 months doing absolute dogshit but I only ate healthy and under my bmr
>>79167705
Even if it isn't *quite* as simple as "Eat less, you fat fuck", focusing on the science and the technicalities just discourages people who are rightly confused by it all.
"Eat less calories" is close enough to correct, is simple to understand, and is easy to do thanks to labeling.
>>79166360
What's so fucking bad about this vid? It's basically telling fatties to drop the fucking fork and stop eating shit. It's not condoning or empowering fatfucks
>>79167901
>Abs are made in the kitchen.
Abs are made in the gym (breakdown of muscle tissue), kitchen (eating the right nutrients), and your bed (getting enough sleep/rest)
You can't outrun a bad diet.
What about the best way to gain muscle? Can I still avoid exercise? Would like to look like this by the end of summer
Health/weight/BF/ConditionedAfricans/Conflicting studies/Africans/Jewsincoats/resistancetraining/anerobic/aerobic/heartrate/
At least I don't have to exercise
>>79166360
Exercising helps but if you're a fat pig, you need to review your shitty diet. With a healthy diet, you'll lose weight even if you don't exercise.
Eat fruits and veggies, salads without half a gallon of ranch sauce or mayo, less fat, less carbs and less sugar and you will stop being a fat piece of crap.
>>79166360
> Eating more if you start excercising will cause you to not lose weight.
No shit Sherlock.
>>79168565
>Would like to look like this by the end of summer
summer of 2020 maybe
>>79168565
Synthol and liposuction.
>>79166360
Exercise isn't the best way to lose weight. It's diet. You can train as much as you want but if you eat enough you'll still gain weight. Some of that will be muscle if you're working out but some will be fat.
If you have a deficit of calories with respect to how many you burn by just existing (known as Basal Metabolic Rate) your body burns fat.
A typical fatty hour-long workout is like a couple hundred calories at most, which is barely anything. A pound of fat is 3500 calories. You'd have to do that hour workout every day for weeks to lose a pound just from it. But if you just ate nothing for about 36 hours you can lose that pound in that period.
Exercise has health benefits, though-- even a little of it and if you are in shitty shape. Doing something at all lowers blood sugar and blood pressure and all that.
>>79168101
I'm down 40 pounds in 3 months just through calorie restriction. I've done literally nothing in terms of exercise.
>>79166360
They're right.
>Abs are made in the kitchen, not in the gym.
>You can't outrun a shitty diet
All that jazz.
>>79166360
Exercise isn't the best way to lose weight. Nobody who knew anything about it ever thought so. You lose weight by eating less
>>79168857
To get your abs to show you have to work them some, but that old addage is mostly true
MURIKAH
>>79168857
but you can outdrug it like many fitness models etc
It's right though, diet is 80% of how your body looks.
>>79166360
Correct premises (don't eat shit food) but absolutely wrong conclusions. They're ignoring completely how metabolism and muscle growth influence the overall consumption
Fatlards will only hear "of you exercise you'll have a slower basal metabolism, so don't".
I fucking hate these people
>>79166360
Well exercise is actually not a good way to lose weight because it adds muscle-mass.
Not eating is the best way to lose weight
>>79166360
>Vox.
>>79168751
It's still more reasonable to exercise while lowering your fat caloric intake, so you're consuming less fat calories and burning more fat calories at the same time. If you wish to increase muscle mass while eliminating body fat, you just have to focus on a protein-rich diet while drinking lots of water. If the person is too overweight, whey protein and creatine might be a better option.
>>79169499
Yes. Psmf is an example. Or memeDukan for the lazy ones
>>79166360
>This thread
>/fit/ always telling /pol/ to pls go
If only they knew
>>79167354
>Sure, excercise doesn't do much in terms of weight loss,
CALORIES IN
CALORIES OUT
IS THIS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND
>>79169600
/Fit/ is the nigger homosexual cousin of /pol/
>>79168855
Have fun being weak, you lift weights to retain your fucking muscle mass take it from me lifting 10+years
>>79167901
I want a better kitchen! Fuck these sittups
>>79166360
Exercise isn't the best way to lose weight, diet is. Some exercise should be mixed in with a change in diet, but the change in diet is the most important thing.
>>79168505
you can out lift one.
>>79166360
Okay, too lazy to watch the entire thing.
a) They are correct, exercise, that is, cardio is shit at losing weight for multiple reasons.
b) The best way to lose weight is to adjust your diet, permanently. Diets do not exist, they are a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Calories in, calories out dictate if you gain or lose weight, nothing else does.
c) Your idle calorie demand, that is your resting metabolic rate is largely decided by your muscles. After the brain, muscles use up the most amount of calories over the day, simply by existing and doing normal everyday activities, this leads to:
d) Go fucking lift. Increasing your muscle mass directly increases the amount of calories your body burns just for existing. Cardio is shit for weight loss because your body just burns sugar and not fat and at the worst, it starts lowering muscle mass because it thinks you're starving. If you lift and build muscle mass instead, your body will naturally respond by increasing daily calorie consumption, allowing you to eat decent food and not feel hungry every waking minute.
>>79166360
Yes, retards, staying merely alive already burns calories and more than running at that. Because staying alive is HARDER to do than running, which is just a part of staying alive.
>>79169741
Thermodynamics isn't one of the strengths of the common folk.
Chubby mcfatshit here, I reached my high at 96kg about a month ago (1.90m tall) and was sick of it, so I've been targeting an intake of ~1300kcal per day. I'm down to 90.7kg now. Another 5kg or so to go and I'll be back to 'normal'.
Not a single unit of exercise was done in the last month, I'm a scientist and therefore couch potato.
Just stop eating so much, you fucking fat pieces of shit.
>>79169951
Anon, bear mode is not viable among normalfags. You shouldn't "just lift" and eat shit
Just do intermittent fasting you fucking assholes
>>79167275
>Yea.... Although everything they said was technically correct, the way the video plays out very much discourages exercise.
Reality discourages exercise. I've spent the last 3 months cycling around 80km/week and I've lost 2kg. Basically I hop on my bicycle and do 4x20km/week and it burns around 700kcal. And I'm fat as a fatass so the weight increases my calories burnt drastically. Normal weight person would probably burn around 500kcal. Hour at the gym is around 300-500kcal, swimming for 2km is around 500kcal and the list goes on.
One fucking muffin is more than 500kcal. 1l of beer is over 300kcal. Any decent sized meal with rice/potatoes, slice of bread and some meat is around and most likely over 1000kcal. One pizza alone is around 2000kcal or over.
We humans are way too energy efficient compared to anything mechanical that runs on fuel on electricity. This of course, is pretty fucking great if we'd live somewhere where finding food was an issue, but we don't.
>>79167275
I viewed it as discouraging misconceptions of exercise
>>79166360
I like how the video is actually showing how physical activity is in your control and it does increase your TDEE, yet they bring up words like "decreased metabolic rate" and "compensatory behavior" to belittle sport.
If you don't adapt to your new metabolic rate when you lose weight and especially if keep over eating you will become fat again.
It seems this video is trying to remove all responsibility of every fat person.
Conclusion: Fuck fat people.
tl;dr:
Fat loss = Calories in < calories out
Weight gain = Calories in > calories out
It's not, though. An hour of cardio may burn 500 calories, and a single cheesesteak may have a thousand cals in it.
Of course the proper solution is diet AND exercise, but lards will jump on this to excuse their laziness.
I'd say put all fats in the ovens, but they'd just set the place to grease fire.
>>79166360
The old saying is true then Americans are fat and lazy. It would be somewhat funny if it wasn't so sad. We have people working sedentary jobs because they don't want to do actual work. They are sitting on their asses instead of being active and they get fat. Then they go out and complain that people are holding them up to impossible health and beauty standards. Finally they say "I'm beautiful and your a bigot for not seeing me as the sexy person I am.
Fuck it we're done folks might as well turn out the lights lock the doors go home and wait for everything to go to hell.
>>79169741
The thing is most exercise doesn't put a lot of calories "out". An hour run is around 500 calories. You can eat that back in 5 minutes. Dietary restriction is key to weight loss
Well lets see.
If I exercise right like a multi hour mountain bike ride I burn 4-6k calories a day. If I sit on my ass I burn 2.3k calories a day.
Yup. OP's eat one less twinkie plan while watching daytime TV sure is making that fat bitch smaller.
15-20 minutes of exercise for 3-4 times a week is not as important as eating right, but heavy exertion 5-7 days a week works better than any diet plan. Just ask grandpa what boot camp used to be like, or what hell week was like. Not pussified like what it is today.
90% weight lose is the Nutrition
News at 11.
>>79170369
>An hour run is around 500 calories.
depends heavily on your weight
a rough estimate for moderately sized men is about 100 kcal per kilometer
>>79170185
You do exercise to be stronger and healthier, not to burn fat.
>>79168321
Abs are made in the kitchen, not good abs but abdominal muscles poking through is entirely diet based. For a brickshit house like me though my core is insanely strong so even with fat i get a bit of a 6 pack
>>79170453
That's a gross overestimation unless you're sprinting
>>79170369
>Dietary restriction is key to weight loss
Yes it is. But you will definitely feel a lot better when dieting if you do sports AND restrict your diet at the same time.
Doing both means you can eat more which means that you are going to have overall more energy during the day while slimming down.
>>79170185
>>79170329
Stop eating the carb Jew, esp sugar. It's harder to eat so many kcal of meat after a week or so of switching. End of day, I'll be at 1500kcal while feeling absolutely full. I lose 1-3kg a week when I do this.
If you can't control yourself to do so, try simulants to kill appetite.
>>79166360
the stuttering woman narrator is dumb as dirt.
let the man talk, honey.
>>79166360
>IMPLYING EXERCISE AND MORE MUSCLE MASS DOESN'T INCREASE CALORIES BURNED AT REST
>going against basic thermodynamics
HOLD ME BACK NIGGERS I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
FUCK THE FATS RACE WAR NOW
>>79170697
I'm not holding you back this time faggot let them have it
>>79170627
Event though different macros have different metabolism rates the difference isn't that much. You can actually eat whatever you want if you keep your caloric intake below your caloric output.
Obviously keeping sugar and shitty food in your diet will effect your health and mood, but your weight loss itself won't be affected as much.
>>79170500
Sprinting / HIIT training burns way more calories than that.
>>79170590
Cardio makes me hungrier than what it burns justifies (though obviously we should still do it). But I've found strength training has significantly increased my energy consumption without affecting hunger
except everyone already knew that?
the best way to lose weight is to stop eating you fat fucks
>>79166360
If you hike for 8 hours a day with a heavy backpack you're going to lose weight. This notion that you can lose weight by working out one hour 4 times a week is of course just ridiculous.
>>79170796
>He bought into the caloric jew
Top kek everyone knows calories are just Jewish propaganda so they can sell low calorie and diet versions of the same product
>>79166360
>Be me
>Fat kid
>Try diets, never work or keep at it
>Teenage years finally learn I got a thyroid problem
>Get told I just can't be skinny by a fucking fat doctor
>People randomly tell me I shouldn't bother and just be happy the way I am
>When I'm twenty finally have enough of being fat and exhausted everyday
>Work my ass off for years
>Get thinner bit by bit
>Feel more active and happier
>Post stuff on kikebook because I feel proud of myself
>Get people angry at me for fatshaming
>Every damn week something like OP's video comes out makes it even worse and these insane blobs keep being this delusional
Fuck these pieces of shit. Getting thin might not be easy but it can be done but instead you got all these whales going on about muh fatshaming
>>79170697
>FUCK THE FATS! WEIGHT WAR NOW!
>>79167581
Actually that is not true a lot of people think exercise is the most important thing.
Of course maccy d's and coca cola wouldn't want you too think not consuming their garbage was the right solution.
>>79170796
>2016
>falling for the HIIT jew
might as well join a crossfit gym faget.
Sprinting, and I mean true sprinting, is entirely anaerobic.
Once you start dipping into the Lactic Acid Phase of the human energy systems, it should be very specialized training.
Unless you are a endurance athlete (a cuck) then by all means enjoy your VO2 max training.
Exercise is a fat loss tool, not a weight loss tool
Not eating like a pig is a weight loss tool.
>>79166360
exercise isn't the best way to lose weight. Fasting is.
>>79166360
I mean, its easier to reduce caloric intake than it is to maintain caloric intake and use said calories for energy during exercise.
>>79170885
>Cardio makes me hungrier than what it burns justifies
This is why you should always customize any diet plan for your body. Everybody is different.
>>79167705
>have different effects on the body.
Yes, but not on your weight. They can effect everything from diabetes risk, to cardiovascular health, but there is not magical perpetual motion infinite energy food that will make you gain weight despite using all of the fuel in your tank. If you discover a food that does not adhere to the calories in < calories out = weight loss, then you will be in line for a Nobel Prize for discovering infinite renewable energy.
>>79167705
The bio availability of calories from different sources varies by about 10%.
>>79166360
you can always follow the J(ust)D(ont)E(at) diet.
>>79171170
cardio is for faggots
do you even have a wheelchair to prevent your legs from stealing your gains?
>>79171139
Stop beginning sentences with "I mean" like that you reddit tier faggot.
>>79166360
I worked as a personal trainer, can confirm.
Its not propaganda.
Diet is easily 70% of it, rest is sleep.
Exercise helps with tone, but utterly needless to lose weight.
In fact, it will increase appetite and unless the person is able to control it (most arent) they will end up gaining weight.
We're talking about weight loss here btw, not bulking up.
you definitely need to exercise, but exercise can be as simple as walking 1 hr every day, with small bursts of high intensity activity.
>>79171234
Kek the only thing he's making gains in is his Muslim population
>>79171056
>sprinting
An Anon that actually know what he's talking about. Rare. Springing is the single best exercise one can do on a time/effort/effect consideration. If I could do only one form of exercise for the rest of my life, it would be sprints.
im not a scientist, but wouldn't gaining muscle increase your resting metabolism? therefor helping you loose wight?
>>79171298
I mean I don't like it either but no need to be rude.
>>79168565
>Would like to look like this by the end of summer
Kek, if you worked out at maximum intensity 10 hours a week while eating perfectly and never skipping a workout you could have this in 2+ years.
Or you could just do the above and roid and you could have it in 6 months.
>>79171404
>Buying into the muscular jew
Kek you are right. You definitely are not a scientist.
its true though, exercise will not help you lose weight very effectively. if you hammer down 6k calories a day you can run as much as you want but you're never gonna lose a single gram of weight. restricting calories is the primary way to lose weight, then you exercise ontop of that for added effect.
/fit/ here
While yes they are appealing to fatties by not mentioning if you want to lose weight you have to stop stuffing your fat face
But they are technically not wrong
If you just go to the gym every day of the week your body will barely change
It is all about diet
I've seen regulars in the gym for 2 years who make no progress
But telling fatties to stop drinking liquid sugar and eating McDonald's is just as bad as telling them to exercise
>>79167663
by maybe 5% in 6 months.
>>79167705
It is that simple. You could eat 222.22 grams of fat, 500 grams of carbs, or 500 grams of protein and still net the same result if you "burn" 2100 calories a day. Essentially kg*m^2*s^-2*4.1868
>>79171541
Just don't be a pussy and load up those syringes and you'll be fine.
>>79171298
I mean, I've never been on reddit
>>79171307
70% of what? You're as dumb as the people in the video. If you want to lose weight by exercising, exercise more than 3 hours every day. Weight loss is obviously a question of volume. If you don't have time or are too lazy to do this, don't claim exercise is useless to lose weight, because that's just a retarded statement. It's as dumb as saying a bicycle is a useless method for transportation just because you don't have time to learn how to ride a bike.
>>79171576
Yeah the same caloric intake but different macronutrients have different purposes in the body. Saying you could only eat carbs or only eat fat and be healthy is stupid.
>Diet is more important than exercise
Found a fatty who cares for neither
>>79171170
>>79171234
cardio is for faggots and will make you look like a faggot
high intensity sprint intervals only.
increase that testosterone with all the same benefits of prolonged long distance cardio session without the estrogen and loss of gains
Go out and sprint
>>79171361
I am trying to become a professional sprinter at this very moment.
Sprinting is one of the best exercises, and methods of testing applicable strength.
However, if you want to run fast, it takes more than just running.
Explosive lifting and Plyometrics are the base to any fast sprinter. Any runner or sprinter without these as a base will not be a very fast runner.
>>79171687
Exercise can easily cause you to gain weight, as muscle weighs more than fat. People are really concerned with losing fat, not losing weight. Fat is caused by excess calories, and nothing else.
>>79166360
>Exercise isn’t the best way to lose weight
Yea no shit. Diet is. For fucks sake, of course it's not a viable weight-loss plan to eat a chocolate-chip cookie which you then have to jog 1 hour for to burn off.
Start monitoring your calorie intake and see the weight disappear without you lifting a finger you fat retards.
>>79171056
Are you retarded or something? How else could you train sprinting if not through intervals of breaks and high intensity you utter moron?
>>79171761
>Falling for the testosterojew
>>79171490
>muscular jew
what? I thought jews ran the gyms not go to them
>>79170627
>people still fall for the carbon-chained Jew
>>79171490
Obviously you don't want to be ubermensch.
>>79171734
>>79166360
What they are saying is that you can exercise all you want but you will just keep getting fatter if you don't eat right
>>79171767
Very few people are interested in competitive sprinting--although, that would be an interesting amateur sport for normies. It's certainly healthier than marathons. The key would be figuring out a way to class people so normies could still enjoy themselves and have a bit of competition.
Because it fucking isn't.
The ONLY way to lose weight is to consume less energy than you expend. The amount of energy you expend through deliberate exercise is always minute compared to the amount you expend by just being alive.
Diet is the only relevant factor when it comes to weight loss. You can exercise 5 days a week and never lose weight if you eat a whole mudcake five times a day and drink pure syrup.
>>79171687
>70% of what?
The total effort, I presume. While I do see your point, the gymfag above has a valid point as well. Your run-of-the-mill fattie will NOT engage in 3 hours of workout per day. He will do 30 minutes every two days, which will make him hungry as fuck and subsequently gorge on buckets of food.
The single most effective method of losing weight, for the vast majority of the fat population, is calorie counting.
>>79171761
>X is shit
>do Y instead
Not every one has the joints to do HIIT. Also you completely misinterpreted my post.
>>79171895
this
>>79171819
The breaks in sprinting training are 10 times longer than the springs themselves. You're supposed to return to near resting heart-rate. Sprint training is not about getting tired. It's more like power lifting.
>>79171830
It's like a coin, man. You flip it over and you still got the jew but with another appearance. The only way to beat the jew is to not eat, sleep, wear clothes, have a house, have materials, live in society, have hair, have a body, have friends, be ugly. That's the only victory against them.
>>79171731
True, it is stupid, but assuming that at it's most base level, a calorie is just a unit of measure and does not care where it came from. On my first deployment, this dude, on a bet at 6 snickers bars and 6 Dr. Peppers a day (along with water), for a month and lost 6 lbs. simply by C out > C in. His skin sucked and Im sure his insides were screaming, but the source does not matter. You are talking nutrition.
>>79171895
Yes, with a sidedish of anti-capitalism and anti-fitness.
How do I stick to eating less than I need to lose weight and healthy when I love food and have a problem with eating comfort good when I'm excited/depressed?
>>79171298
I mean maybe you should kill yourself.
>>79166360
well the best way to lose weight is just to eat less
>>79171841
>Falling for the ubermenjew
>>79172060
>falling for the oxyjew
>>79171909
they have track clubs in every country and every state in the US.
USA track and field is the organization, and people anywhere from 5 to 95 run.
Of course, professionals go to bigger, international meets such as the Diamond League meets in europe or the Prefontaine Classic in Oregon
>>79170185
>We humans are way too energy efficient compared to anything mechanical that runs on fuel on electricity
Are you serious?
One mL of fuel contains 8 million calories.
These people don't want to "eat less" or "work out more". They just want to lose weight.
>>79172002
how.. how many red pills have you taken?
>>79172007
Fuck I would hate to be that guy kek but I get what you mean, I was just saying that you can't be healthy and only eat one type of macronutrient or one food. The one time diversity is important is with your diet
>>79172172
Little c or Big C?
>>79172117
>Implying I don't have gills
Stay jewed land breather
>>79172036
Low-carb diets have shown to reduce appetite. Ditching the habit of eating food for pleasure is just something that requires discipline and willpower. It's like getting over any other addiction.
>>79166360
Obviously you need to balance your caloric intake and your caloric expenditure if you want to lose weight--*nobody* thought you could do just one or the other.
>>79172218
He hated to be that guy. I get up to 200 in the winter and back down to 160 in the summer. Eat the same shit, just in different portions.
>>79172205
I overdosed a long time ago. The earth is flat and I have proof I just can't share it with anyone or even explain it because it's so hidden and deep inside of my head, you just have to swallow it subconsciously or else the Jews will get you.
>>79172305
Chinese eat food for pleasure, and their skinny. In fact, eating is consistently listed in most people's top 3 hobbies.
>>79166360
/fit/ here.
I will never fall for fatty propaganda.
>>79172401
>and their skinny.
Not anymore. They're becoming just as fat.
>>79172240
Never mind I was way fucking off. It's closer to 32,000 kcal.
The 8 million figure came from figuring out how much steak someone would have to eat to generate enough energy to move the Queen Elizabeth II a millimetre.
>>79172361
Right now I'm a permabulking fag. Have been for over a year, I stay fairly lean so it isn't that big of a deal. I typically sit around 170, during the summer I dip down a little bit and winter go up a tad bit but the average is 170. Was the guy always jittery and shit?
lifestyle change
fuck fat people
>>79172476
That's because they're eating western food now.
>>79166360
#1 way to lose weight is by eating healthier
Any credible doctor will tell you this, it's 20% exercise and 80% what you eat
I lost 80 pounds last year sitting on my ass just by eating less
>>79172657
Exactly. And this is where
>eating is consistently listed in most people's top 3 hobbies.
comes from.
>>79171788
>Exercise can easily cause you to gain weight, as muscle weighs more than fat.
That's a myth. You can easily add on 5 kilos (~10 pounds for you burgers) of fat each month if you eat too much. If you can consistently put on 5 kilos of muscle mass each YEAR after rigorous exercise, you should consider yourself lucky. You don't accidentally put on kilos of muscles that offset your fat loss. That just doesn't happen.
>>79172712
>5 kilos of muscle a year is unrealistic
nigga u srs
>>79171404
Yes, but building an apreciable mass of muscle is beyond most people
>>79171895
And that is demonstrably false. Exercising 8 hours a day will cause any fatty to lose weight, even if they eat twice as much as they usually eat.
>>79172703
No no no, Chinese viewed eating as a past time before any western establishments took a foothold. The native food is simply more satisfying and derives flavor from things other than calorie dense fats. China has a high carb native diet, and relies on sauces--overall it's less calorie dense than American staples.
>>79166360
>vox
>Start loosing weight by not eating much
>lose 20 kilos
>start execising
>got extra muslces
>they're covered in fat so i still look fat
>wtf gym is bad for you
>>79172783
He didn't say it was unrealistic, just above average progress even for a proper strength routine. Unlesd you roid, of course
>>79172712
I didn't mean to suggest that you can gain muscle as fast as fat.
>>79172305
I don't do drugs or drink but man I love eating. I've been trying to eat healthier, cut back calories, and change my lifestyle but it's tough. All it takes is a couple cheats and it's a slippery slope back into eating nothing but shit.
diet has always been more importantly than exercise for losing weight.
>>79166360
>Vox
>FUCKING VOX
We'll explain the news to you because you're too stupid to understand it
Also the fucking owner has two fucking dogs and no kids, he probably says "Daddy's home" when his dogs see him when he comes home.
>>79166360
If you want to actually lose weight then you would lose it, willpower can be gained from any kind of source but if you want the easiest way to gain it go spend a few years alone with nobody to take care of you in any sense.
>>79172816
This. Even if the new muscle mass being developed isn't visible, it's still there and thus will increase basal metabolic rate (which they stress is so important in OP's vid).
>>79172914
You're probably overestimating the amounts they actually eat. They're clearly not eating all that much if they're skinny. Even if they claim that eating is their favorite hobby.
It's like some skinny guy boasting about how he can eat all he wants and he never gains weight.
Then you actually watch him eat what he considers a huge meal, and it just turns out to be a normal-sized portion.
>>79173033
Stay strong and you're going to make it.
>>79170185
Stop eating karelians all the time and maybe you'll lose some fucking weight, fatso. I've been exercising. for two months AND not eating like a fat slob, and I've gone from 230 to 204.
>>79166360
No shit. The best way to lose weight is starving yourself.
Easiest way to lose weight is to kill yourself.
You'll lose weight by literally doing nothing.
>>79167656
>but exercise is the second best way to lose weight and should be done anyway
Not really for very obese people. Their heart and joints are already under extreme loads, exercises may outright hurt them.
Fuck exercise. It's pointless. Go out into your yard and use manual tools to complete tasks.
Use a scuffle hoe or scythe instead of a weed whacked, manually prune or remove branches with hand shears or folding saws, etc. You will keep your yard in order, which raises curb appeal and home value, and you'll get a good workout in the process.
Unless it's raining or I've got other plans, I get home from work, crack open a few beers, and do shit outside of the house.
On the weekends when it's 90+ with 60% humidity, I'll find shit to do inside. On winter weekends, I'm processing lawn waste to be burned in my fire pit.
If you don't have a yard, volunteer in a community garden or cemetery or offer to help a friend/family member.
>>79166360
Well muscles weigh more than fat.
>>79173267
They don't eat a lot. My point was that they take enjoyment in what they eat, and it's not simply for nutrition. They manage to enjoy food, and not eat too much of it. We should figure out how to do the same.
>>79170094
90Kgs and 1.90m sounds about the right wieght, you just need to shape yourself and gain muscle
>>79172036
Right down everything you eat at least and calculate calories. Then pin this list at you places where you spend most times so you are forced to constantly look at it.
>>79173243
I don't care about increased metabolic rates. Even 400 pound fatties can burn 600+ kc per hour for a whole day if they get out of their comfort zone.
>>79166360
technically they're right
losing weight != losing fat
>>79166360
you can't expect to lose weight quickly with exercise. you lose weight quickly with eating less, but it will only make you bloat fastly when you eat a lil bit much. exercise, makes you stabler. so when you eat a bit much or don't get to exercise for few days, your weight will still be in range. exercise fixes how your body process food.
>>79173593
> If walking is good for your health, the postman would be immortal
If smoking ciggies was bad for your health, you'd die the moment you bought a pack of ciggies. Also, where does this fat live, 1955?
>A whale swims all day, only eats fish, only drinks water, and is fat
So they don't die of hypothermia. Whale =/= human
>A rabbit only eats vegetables, runs and hops all day long, and only lives 5 years
This is either a shitpost or the person is retarded or they're 5.
>A tortoise doesn't run and does nothing energetic, yet it lives for 450 years
*200 at most
>>79173581
>Fuck exercise. It's pointless.
it's not pointless, it makes you physically more attractive, which is the most important thing.
>>79166360
>1 post by this ID
And of course exercise isn't the best way to lose weight. it's the best way to turn useless mass into useful mass.
Not fucking eating (Starving yourself) is a pretty effective way of losing mass.
Because delusional fatties think if they go for a 15 minute walk or go to the gym for half an hour that they can still eat whatever they want.
Or they will use their fat induced poor health as the reason they can't exercise and therefore can't lose wait.
It BTFOs fatty logic. The most important thing they can do is put done the fork.
>>79166360
the problem is they only consider cardio
the best way to reduce body fat is to lift weights
but the world won't take that redpill for some reason
>>79166360
Don't drink carbonated sugar water crap or alcohol, cut your plate in half. You'll lose weight in no time.
>>79174162
Increasing muscle mass additionally boosts your mental and physical health. Cardio < Cardio + Lifting.
People who want to be healthy eventually need to start lifting.
>>79174162
Because weight-loss business is mostly targeted towards women. And women are retarded enough to believe they'll turn into Arnold Schwarzenegger if they pick up heavy things 2 or 3 times per week.
>>79172816
>Exercising 8 hours a day will cause any fatty to lose weight, even if they eat twice as much as they usually eat.
Fatty from OP video don't have stamina to even walk 8 hours. At best they could burn 1500-2000 calories, excising all day. They can eat that much. And the next day they would lay flat. Really there is no way to not stay fat if you routinely consume 5000-6000 calories per day. There is only one thing.
>>79174213
this. you don't even need to excerise, just eat less than 2000 calories a day
>>79166360
>200 pound guy runs for an hour a day
>Loses 5 pounds a month
Thats not bad
>>79173945
An attack helicopter eats meat and drinks gasoline....and will live forever if treated with love.
Lifting weights is for homos. If you live in the country there's plenty of outside work you can do. If you live in a city you're automatically a faggot.
>>79167354
Muscles take more energy and thus calories, thus why fit people stay fit and can wolf down 3300 kcals AS LONG AS THEY WORK OUT
Fatasses will find any excuse not to however. That's why cardio is nice to stay your weight and slightly lower it, but lifting is much more effective
>>79171863
>disobedient avocado
wut
>>79166360
>exercise is almost useless because what if you eat donuts and pizza to compensate for the burned calories?
how is that a flaw in exercise? instead of painting exercise useless they should have just emphasized that there is a real danger that youll start overeating and told you not to do that
>>79166360
>The science is in: Exercise isn’t the best way to lose weight
That's true though. You lose weight way faster and easier by just eating less. Exercise is just really healthy.
>we need laws to change the "food environment" so fatties lose weight
>>79170380
>4-6k calories a day
1 hour of biking (max speed, uphill...) will barely burn 500kcal, so to burn those extra 2k-4k kcal, you'll ned 4-8 hours of mountain biking daily.
If you stop drinking a 700ml Coke and one 3-pack twinkies, you basically stop eating +1000 kcal (2 hours of biking), and fatsos eat WAAAAAAY more than 1 coke and 3 twinkies.
Exercise is great to gain muscle and accelerate metabolism, but it you exercise and keep eating shit, you won't lose weight,If you stop eating shit and keep your normal routine, there is much more chances of losing weight.
>>79174675
>how is that a flaw in exercise?
In that sense that additional eating could easily compensate any realistic amount of exercise. real culprit here is eating addiction without defeating it normal weight is not possible.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with working out at the gym, but I'm of the opinion that you need to focus more on things like yoga, unprocessed food, and general wellness or else you are going against the grain and wearing yourself down mentally. People want to make it as little of a lifestyle change as possible so they think if they wake up really early, force themselves out of bed, run before sunrise, and exert themselves as much as possible that the rewards will be equivalent to their work. But the slower, the better, your body will adjust accordingly and you'll be at a lower risk of heart attack. This is why people who get their exercise from their livelihood seem more toned and well rounded, rather than cramming in circuit training before you go to work and spend the rest of the day standing still. Take it slow, make it something you look forward to instead of forcing it. Or make it into a hobby like parkour or karate or something.
>>79167705
Keto>Bulk>Paleo. Follow a diet in that order and you'll be healthy forever.
>>79174162
no, the best sport is the one that is free, that everyone can do anytime anywhere, the most basic exercise God gave us. running.
>>79171731
Yeah it is, glad nobody said that.
Calories in < Calories out = weight loss
>>79174474
if you can't survive in the city you're a subhuman
>>79174803
War on food is not bad idea. Like war on drugs. Make food controlled substance only available by doctors recipe. You overrun your personal calorie card meter, nope you can't buy more food, come tomorrow. Sounds reasonable for me.
>congress needs to focus on improving our food environment to help us making better decisions
or.. just make proper decisions by yourselves?
>>79166360
It isn't. Dieting is. Exercise is for getting stronger and improving your cardiovascular health.
>>79174967
A lot of people who work out go home or out with their friends just to get drunk right after too. Anyone who actually gives a shit about health will refrain from alcohol and junk food, instead of adopting the idea that it's just more to work off. If you want to be healthy, commit to it, and the benefits alone will be what make you happy. If it's seen as a chore, it's not good for you and there's no point doing it to yourself just so you can look good. This is why some people give up and turn into blimps when their self-esteem takes a hit, because they haven't immersed themselves in the concept of wellness, it's just work to them.
6'5", 140 lbs reporting in.
Been a skelly my entire life and don't understand how someone can be obese.
>>79166360
Eat less, and eat healthier.
Carbs are actually the worst thing for your health, not fat. When you eat carbs, the liver turns any carbs you don't need into fat.
Think about it. When did the obesity epidemic really take hold in the US? As soon as we started cutting fats from foods, and adding sugars in their place.
Want to lose weight? Start cutting out all unnecessary carbs, like sugary drinks.
>>79166360
i support this. the more people stay fat and dumpy, the better I look because I have been (((exercising))) by lifting for years. they can stay in the bucket.
>>79175186
>Keto
into the trash
>>79175467
That's even skinnier then I used to be. I used to be 130 pounds at 6 foot 2, but I started eating more and am now up to a healthy weight of 185 pounds.
I'm guessing you're still probably very young, around 20 or younger, so your metabolism hasn't changed yet.
>>79166360
This is bullshit I have lost weight on exercise alone without eating healthier. Granted I would have lost more weight if I dieted.
here's how i like to think about it in very general terms:
1. calories in vs calories out determine whether you gain or lose weight
-1a. eating an excess, you gain weight
-1b. eating a deficit, you lose weight
2. exercise tells your body what to do with the calories you have
-2a. lifting will make your body want to gain or maintain muscle depending on caloric excess or deficit, respectively ("i need to lift things so i need muscle")
-2b. low intensity steady state cardio will make your body want to preserve energy ("i need to be able to run so i need energy stores")
>>79172036
-Stop eating ALL sugary drinks and candies, snacks.
-Reduce portions (Instead of eating 4 slices of pizza eat only 1)
-Reduce fat (No mayo, no dressings, no butter)
-Try to find healthy alternatives, instead of eating chips eat natural homemade popcon (No microwave shit), eat more fruit and raw vegetables, they keep appetite calmed.
>>79175528
I lost 40 lbs in 20 weeks thanks to keto, without even exercising.
6'1" and 172 lbs now
Exercise is one small part of it.
If you don't want to be fat, DON'T LIVE THE LIFESTYLE OF A FAT PERSON!
Sitting on your lazy ass all the time eating garbage will do that to a person.
Your body goes into hibernation mode if you don't ever move, and you'll crave fatty foods because of this.
If you're at least reasonably active, your metabolism will keep up and you'll start to want healthier food.
>>79175761
gj jumping on a fad diet and losing weight with no effort. the minute you jump off your blood-acidifying momscience bullshit you're going to gain the weight back you dumb bitch
>>79175761
>I lost 40 lbs in 20 weeks thanks to keto, without even exercising.
high fat and high protein is really filling - you basically ate a caloric deficit because you were always satiated. keto isnt magic
>>79175372
Not ALL food. Meat, fruits, vegetables and grains are ok.
What we should do is ban sodas, candies, snacks, etc... basically all food that doesn't have any nutritional benefit except calories. And to restrict all junk food like burguers and pizzas.
>>79175000
yes but they make it sound like exercise is guaranteed to make you eat more or eat garbage all of a sudden. even using that logic, exercising and not eating more would still arguably cost less willpower than just changing your complete diet from sugary and fatty foods.
i dunno, it just sounds misleading.
>>79175998
Been over a year now so I doubt that.
>>79176008
Always being satiated IS the magic. You think I could maintain a 1000+ calorie deficit while eating Jew bullshit like bread or pasta?
Correct exercise is not the best way. Eating less food over a longer period of time is the best way to lose weight.
>>79168321
the "six-pack' is entirely diet based. It is about getting your body-fat percentage down low enough so that the abdominal muscles show. Even people who do like virtually no exercise would have visible abs if they lost enough fat.
>>79176076
Banning food is a retarded idea, it's a matter of availability. The cheap sugary processed garbage is what the very poorest people can afford, and those are in places that aren't actual food deserts. Why is there still an option to buy sweetened soybean oil peanut butter for half the price of the natural kind?
>>79166360
>For most people physical activity, that is any movement you do, only accounts for 10-30% of energy use
>Exercise makes people hungry
>Human body has a natural energy burning maximum
Interesting and somewhat valid points, the video just seems to suggest that it's fine not to exercise.
>Humans eat unhealthy shit.
>The government should do something about it
This garbage right here
>>79176374
depends how you define "best" though. People should be exercising anyways. The video feels like a way to help people lose weight with as little effort as possible.
>>79176264
>Been over a year now so I doubt that.
lmao ok. just remember that you get out of it what you put into it. sitting on your skinnyfat ass all day and losing weight because of a dr.oz momscience diet is going to catch up to you.
>>79166360
lol no shit it never was changing what you eat is how you lose weight lol get rid of sugar, soda, bread, tadaa
>>79167354
Yeah if you lose a bunch of weight and have no muscle mass then you end up a skelly and now you have a new problem
>>79166360
I fucking hate these types of videos. New studies come out every fucking day. Exercise is essential to health. It keeps you in shape so you're not panting when you walk up the steps, and helps you live longer. I've been working out for so long that I can't go a day without doing any type of activity or I'll have no energy for the day.
Sure, exercise might not be effective for all, but this video is basically telling fat landwhales that they don't need to exercise, but they should just eat healthier and eat less. Like that is EVER going to happen.
Shame weighs a ton.
>>79166360
But its not. It's diet. Most physicians say its about 70/30 diet/exercise right?
>>79176603
there is one thing that i forgot that helps weight training more muscles burn more calories
>>79176827
>Like that is EVER going to happen.
I guess that's why obesity is a problem in the first place. Eating less really is the solution, but they just can't lay off the cake.
I agree that exercise is important for overall health, but some people are so fucking fat that telling them to exercise is a liability. They can start doing that shit once they drop 100-200 pounds.
You all are missing the point of the video.
The video was made for fat Americans to go:
>oh yea *stuffs 2 slices of pizza at once in mouth* i knew it all along! *drinks diet coke* exercising is for idiots!! *eats chocolate covered bacon* all i have is a thyroids problem *takes a bite from a block of cheese* you see, i cant help it *turns on dialysis machine* big and beautiful!
>>79177163
What is she eating.
>>79177511
A brick of cheese
>>79177511
looks like a kilo of cheese
https://www.google.ie/search?q=calories%20in%20a%20kg%20of%20cheese
>>79166360
exercising does work, but cutting down on excess consumption is more important in losing weight.
>>79166360
well I mean technically it's not, weight loss is about 20% exercise and 80% what you eat
Other than giving fatasses more ammo to live their unhealthy lifestyle, exercise really isn't the end all be all when it comes to weight loss. No use exercising if you're going to eat elephant sized portion every meal. You gotta have a healthy consistent diet, too. You don't need a fucking "the science is in" video to do this. People have been saying this shit for decades.
>>79170964
Good for you, anon. I share your sentiment entirely.
>>79168565
I fucking love Jason Momoa. I first saw him in StarGate and I didn't even know he was in Game of Thrones until a female co-worker told me how infatuated she was with him.
>>79166360
>Exercise isn’t the best way to lose weight
But that's right you fucking retard, even /fit/ will tell you that losing weight is 90% diet. Exercise is only good for building muscles / conditioning.
>>79176447
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It would be visible, but not like as the girl want them to see. Combine your weight loss with abs exercises and the compliments will flow in. :)
>>79166360
The best way to lose weight is to be ill.
>>79178076
>Exercise is only good for building muscles / conditioning.
that's right mexico. Literally no other benefits to exercise at all.
>>79166360
I already know exercise alone does nothing to lose fat.
In fact I exercise for the sole purpose of training for the great race war that is coming.
>>79178174
>exercising for girls
gay desu senpai
>>79166360
>the solution is to have government hold my baby fat hand to stop me from eating what l want to eat
No, dear fat people, because YOU don't want to exercise, or exercising does not work for you, don't take other people's food options.
>mfw americans will soon have to buy food in rations and will have a bracelet that will alert the fat police if they overeat
>>79166360
All this video has taught me is that people are fat because they are lardasses who eat too much, not because of genetics
>>79166360
But that's right. Not overeating is the best way to not get fat and having a small caloric deficit + exercise is the best way to lose weight.
You can run for an hour and have 3 chocolate chip cookies, you'll still gain weight.
>>79167901
Hot.
>>79169910
Sit-ups are a horrendous exercise that do noting but fuck up your back.
