>Four Million Muslims Killed in US-NATO Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?
>Hearkening back to the Japanese interment camps of WWII, some Americans are now calling for Muslims to be placed in camps or even openly calling for genocide against the 1.6 billion practitioners of the faith.
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/four-million-muslims-killed-in-us-nato-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/5470424
>MFW the crusades never ended
DEUS VULT!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zbF5mlvL8
After Grand Emperor Trump is elected, will you join the crusades?
>>79141134
>Should We Call It Genocide?
We should call it a start
source: my fat ass
but here is a fact, 50.000 westerner killed by mujaahiden you dumb fatty
>those patches
lol.
Also do you have to buy your own equipment in the military? Weapons and weapon accessories specifically I mean.
More shit saying Muslims are a race.
>4 million
>Should we call it genocide?
No, we should call it not enough.
>>79141134
>muslims kill each other with great gusto
>somehow this is genocide
>>79141134
Only 4 mill? Sheeeit, we need to step up our game.
>>79141134
There's still over a billion of them and they breed like rabbits. We need to step up our extermination program if we want to curb this problem.
>>79141312
>Dumb fatty
Jesus fuck that is pre-school tier banter fucking hell.
Deus Vult
Though like almost all of this is just muslims bombing muslims
>>79141439
Well the US created the conditions for it, removing the strong secular governments preventing it.....
> Nips bomb American port
> Get rekt
> Slimes bomb American buildings
> Get rekt
There's a lesson to be learned in there somewhere.
>>79141312
You don't even know what Mujahedeen are and that Marine was killed in Iraq by insurgents, not fucking mujahedeen.
Regardless, we have slaughtered over 4 million of them and it feels fantastic.
>>79141612
It's not a banter, it's an insult, you fucking fat sack of shit
>>79141134
We need to start on the wetbacks flooding america and canada
>>79141354
Most Special Forces buy their own equipment because the shit that the military provides is crap.
When you are on the field, you want a pair of Binos that you bought and not some rag tag shit that has been passed down to you by command.
There was no justification for the treatment of the japanese while islam demands muslims kill or enslave all non believers.
For muslims to peacefully coexist every couple of generations would need to cull their population by 90%
>>79141134
Most were combatants so no you fucking retard, it's called war
>>79141773
I'm so happy that you guys got rekt today by your own kind.
HAHAHA! It really helps when muslims kill each other. Stupid fucking roach.
>>79141134
Fuck yeah
>>79141711
Anyone who fights what they see as "western imperialists" in the name of jihad is a mujaihdeen, ffucking retard.
>>79141813
Fuck off you dirty nip.
>>79141134
>GlobalResearch
Ok Ivan.
Wish I could've participated in this shoah during my multiple Iraq deployments.
>4 million muslims killed
There's still a billion left.
>>79141881
Mujahedeen were in Afghanistan and became the Taliban you stupid nigger.
Those who fight against Christians are known as Jihadists.
>>79141773
Jesus did mommy die in the airport, Abdul? One comment and you're triggered to high hell.
>>79141773
Americans gets rekt all the time since your fat ratios are too high and you get heart attacks very often.
Doubt.
>>79141949
Everybody has to do their part. Remember to kill the women and children if you aren't in the military because they're too PC
>>79141134
Muslims hate other Muslims more than they hate burgers. We keep the savages at their throats while we plunder. Sure there is some blowback from time to time but on a larger scale worth it.
>>79141255
fpbp. Every single one of them deserved to die.
not enough
>>79142047
> Americans die because they are enjoying freedoms of burgers and fries
> Muslims die because they get blown the fuck out by American Crusaders
HAHAHAHA! Tell me which one is worse, roach.
Why are there so many annoying angry turkish people posting today?
Go mourn or something stop being mad.
>>79142062
Fuck off you Londistani fuck boi. I cant wait till some UK patriot caves your head in on your way home from prayer.
>>79141813
i thought the chinese hated the japs? why support rthem?
>>79141134
Keep it up brave Christian soldiers of the Western civilized world. In God we trust to give you the strenght to kill the remaining 1.6 billion adherents to the terrorist religion, Islam.
DEATH TO ISLAMIC FILTH!
4 million? lol Why didn't they make it a larger number? Did they think 4 million was believable and anything larger was not?
>>79141773
Visit Istanbul! It's a blast!
>>79141813
i hope you get type 2 diabetes from all the maple syrup my country has allowed you to harvest in peace for the last 70 years
>>79142113
>american crusades
>not by a proxy islamic terror organisation that was funded by israel,america and saudis for the mutual interests
god, the average american is dumber than an average muslim.who could ve thought it would be the case?
>>79141981
You just want to get in a fight about semantics you fucking degenerate.
The mujahideen is not exclusive to the afghan soviet resistance, is is literally defined as Islamic resistance fighters who are fighting non-Muslim opponents. Not fucking exclusive to Afghanistan.
Many other political Islamist organisations call themselves mujahideen, including magrhebi and phillipino ones. Dumb cunt.
Read a fucking book, the afghan mujahideen did not become the taliban. The United Islamic front formed from the afghan mujahideen, the talibann biggest opponent during the civil war. Hekmatyar for a long time, was an opponent of the taliban, and he leaded a mujahideen group.
Read a fucking book retard
>>79142047
>Gets so triggered he replies to own post
>>79141134
> Mfw there is a Chuck Norris picture and quote on the plate shield of the turret
>>79142270
6 million was already taken.
>>79142375
LOL! You still got rekt by our proxy you dumb bitch, and ISIS is slaughtering 1000s of muslims. They are helping us tremendously by wiping out you faggots.
>>79141134
I'll call it genocide when that number gets to a billion, then maybe...maybe.
>>79142380
> Australia
> The post
>>79142524
>>79142552
>people who died with conviction and self respect
>faggots
>4 million
>over a billion muslims
>muslims in every country, but we've only bombed a couple
>questions if it's genocide
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
>>79142577
LOOL XDD LMAOO
>>79142611
>being knowledgable
>not talking about shit you don't understand
Dumb cunt bro, dumb cunt
>>79142608
>>79142584
>>79142552
>>79142524
> Look Infidel, we killed a 8000 of you. We are le superior
HAHAHAHA! We fucking shoahed you sand niggers! LMFAO!
Fucking holocaust for real and it was muslims being thrown in the ditch.
>>79142677
I don't live in Turkey so I'm not mad.
>>79142624
>Fought for Israel
>Died while getting minimum wage
>Lost the war they participated in
>Wives were getting fucked by other men while they were home
>If they had any kids they are being raised in a society full of homosexuals,whores and other degenerates.
>Hillary will the election
Lmao.
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
LOST IN IRAQ
>LOST IN AFGHANISTAN
not nearly enough dead, lets keep going
>>79142648
>Lost
lol, nope.Iraq was fought to prevent Saddam Hussein from moving oil off the dollar.
Resounding, crushing success.
Afghanistan was fought to create a puppet state with a leadership under American control. That puppet state was established and still exists.
We got everything we wanted geopolitically and lost nothing.
It's funny because the only reason you would think that the USA's goals in the war were to "establish democracy" or something would be if you had taken American propaganda at face value. How fucking stupid are you?
>>79142688
You sound a bit mad, Europe is going to be Muslim soon, so will America.
>>79142827
11/10
>>79141255
This, now we need to get rid of the ones here.
>>79142764
Well why not stop laughing and do something about it faggot?
>>79142827
muhamMAD right here, o im laffin
>be muslim
>Get rekt while holding onto your goat fucking father now you're both dead lying in the street
>>79142764
>Lost
We decimated their armies and left them in ruin. The only thing we 'lost' at was putting them back together, which is frankly something that God himself couldn't do.
>>79142764
We raped the Middle East lol
>>79142270
itll work its way up to 6 gorillion
>>79142827
The Serbs are going to take your shitty country when the EU collapses. Hope your women are ready for another rousing camping trip.
>be muslim
>Get slaughtered by American Crusaders and stacked up in the side of the road like a bunch of useless flesh
>>79142836
Afghanistan was more of a competition to capture oil fields againts the russians.But yeah that is why US created thier own puppet state .
>be muslim
>Get faced caved in and shot with your best friend in the car by American Crusader then take a selfie with him
>>79142836
>>79142958
>>79142969
>lol, nope.Iraq was fought to prevent Saddam Hussein from moving oil off the dollar.
Resounding,crushing success.
Lmao. You removed Saddam and your proxy government became Shia (Iranian) controlled. Thousands of dead Americans and trillions of dollars wasted. Keep watching anime and roleplaying being a crusader on /pol/, that's truly gonna defeat Islam :^)
>Be muslim
>Get Shoahed by Crusaders in town square and let the flies lay maggots in your dead corpse.
>>79143094
>Be American soldier
>Commit suicide
Lmao
http://www.cchr.org/documentaries/the-hidden-enemy.html
>>79141134
mediocre number.
Muslims themselves have killed more than 4m.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHyPQulHcJw
>>79142995
Too bad i'm not a croat or serb
>be Stronkkkkk Islamic warrior
>Get shot and peed on by American Crusaders
>>79141792
Thats not true, friend, not at least with units I've worked with. They do have the opportunity to use their own equipment in certain situations but for the most part they'll use the issued gear. Generally the only time they'll use their own stuff is on FP roles or patrols
>>79143000
That list doesn't even include the genocide of the american natives wtf
>>79143267
>Private Cuks wife cries as she will never have him watch as she gets plowed by Jamal ever again.
> at first I as like
> Allah Akbar death to the American infidel
>>79141482
So each dead mudslime costs about $500k. Fuuuggg. We need a final solution.
>>79143345
>But then I was like
>>79143345
then i was like...
>>79143265
>>79143213
Toasty
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>>79143433
>ISIS beheading video
No American soldier has ever been beheaded by ISIS so try to find something else.
>Be American
>Lose in Iraq and Afghanistan
>Muslim population is growing rapidly
>Cuck soldiers kill themselves everyday
>Iraqi and Afghan birthrates are still sky high and the replacement rate is hire than any casualty rate afflicted
>>79143459
wel cooked pork
>>79141134
African carp are not on the endangered list. I believe they qualify as pest.
>be a Muslim next to Israel
>Get roasted
>>79143527
>>79143355
>>79143389
muslim shit stain found
So fucking based
Dead muslim kids make me rock hard.
Also when there is a parent crying. Instant boner.
>>79143562
I never knew carp were Muslim.
>Nato and Us killed 4 million muslims
It should be
>Nato and US invade countries and because of the stupidity of the population and their backwards belief these people kill each other with suicide bombings
>>79143517
it was from 2006. he was CIA agent.
>>79143517
Still a NATO dog, like this Cucknadian. I wonder how hard his wife was getting plowed when he died, I'm sure you know since you're a cuckservative yourself.
>>79143561
Keep them coming, I'm going to send these to veterans on Facebook. Hopefully I will contribute to their suicide rate lol
>>79141625
>Well the US created the conditions for it
That means nothing at all. Its not the fault of Americans that muslims are savages. It totally deflates the meme that it could be remotely considered genocide. If anyone is guilty of genocide, its the muslims doing the killing.
Especially when Saddam's regime was unstable as fuck.
Boner!
don't lose your head!
>>79143635
kek nice job
LOL! Stupid dead children are in hell now because they are filthy Muslims.
>>79143633
>2006
>ISIS
Did they build a time travel device out goat semen or something?
Only 4? Mao managed 48 million in 大躍進, and that was only 3 years.
Step up your game nato
>>79143633
so it wasnt ISIS, got it
>>79143633
>CIA Agent wearing army fatigue
Lol. Are you pretending to be retarded?
another well cooked pork
>>79143644
>arm and fund radical islamic groups to overthrow a newly established secular and progressive goverment for shekels
>not muh fault
>>79143813
>>79143799
>>79143739
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=680f7e4d82
>>79143624
Based Buddhist says they are.
>>79143324
>native american genocide
Is this how they brainwash kids in the US? That's literally like saying the plague in Europe was a genocide committed by Muslims.
>>79141134
I hope your families like getting pork blood transfusions. You'll all be denied entry to paradise. You'll be so defiled and corrupted that not even the Devil will take you.
Call me when you start bombing the real muslims countries, like France, Germany and Saudi Arabia.
>>79141134
Good, kill more.
>>79143855
You already were trying to kill each other, we just made it easier. I see no problem there.
>>79141134
>>Four Million Muslims Killed in US-NATO Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?
No
>Should We Make It Genocide?
Yes
>>79143572
>Glorifying the killing of children
Wow totally brave individuals. God will punish you all for your actions, when your soldiers get killed you burn eternally. You are slaves of the Jews and fight for nothing more than degenerate capitalism. No wonder your soldiers end up committing suicide on such an unprecedented rate.
In other news, experts say Islam is a genetic expression in order to excuse their violent and retarded behavior.
Full story and more at 9PM Eastern.
>some Americans
Who specifically?
>>79143920
The black plague originated in China, I thought
>>79144026
Yes. Dead muslim children is a great and glorious thing.
I wish nothing more than to be one of the Crusaders that first took Jerusalem , and killed every single man, woman and child in that city.
>>79143977
Don't forget about us, moscow alone has more than whole germany
Everyone enjoy a nice relaxing painting with Bob Ross, and learn how to paint the holy prophet Muhammad, piss be upon him.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7PpE15yh58
>>79144156
Spread to Europe hugely via traders in a port populated by Muslims, but yes. It originated around China.
>>79144007
Not really, before the 80s the middle east was in a reformation state and they were slowly progressing towards a more stabile society if it wasnt for the warmongerers called US, Israel and Russia ofc.Now that place have no chance to fix itself since the place is full of ignorant radical islamists.
>>79144175
You will burn eternally in Hellfire. You fight for Dajjal and and soon Jesus will return and will kill every single one of you. Every single one.
>>79144454
He's a muslim you dumb ass.
>>79144210
But aren't those Russian muslims at least?
>>79143968
>t. impotent raging mudshit
10/10
>>79144508
Sure thing, kiddo.
I thank Christ every night for all the muslim lives I took when I was in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Nothing can replace the feeling of killing another human, let alone a fucking muslim roach.
It's glorious.
>>79141312
>thinking an 800/1 kdr is a bad thing
>>79144543
>Russian Muslim
there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his profit peace be upon him
all of them. every one of them has to believe this. it is the predicate for their faith. like the jews, they are faith over community.
at least jews are productive.
>>79144603
Why is it that most of the shit you post is up in the air on who is actually being killed?
At least the other guy was actually posting dead Americans. The shit you post is too hard to tell. Step your banter game up, pussy.
they could avoid this situation, fuck them
>>79144720
Christianism is the same in terms of theirs being their only god, whats your point? every religion is retarded, but i have never seen Russian sand niggers fucking goats and beheading infidels.
>>79144744
http://imgur.com/a/2RSO9
here. it containts all dead amerifat i've got
>>79141134
The 4 million got not killed by intend to kill them.
Genozide is when you want to kill them no matter what and you plan and execute that.
>>79144603
>>79144508
>>79144026
>>79143989
>>79143899
>>79143821
>>79143720
>>79143635
>>79143633
I love how they treasure every single image they have of a dead westerner. there are so few, they must hoard them. meanwhile i have more than 2 gigs of pancaked shitskins from random saves and no concerted effort to find them.
I hate this fucking "Christians are evil because crusades" meme, it's just choosing to ignore history.
I am an Atheist so I have no dog in this "Christianity vs Islam" fight, BUT I do give a shit about history. The crusades were a RESPONSE to over four centuries of MUSLIM AGGRESSION. They choose to do this because they feared for their fucking lives and their people. You think they just razed cities and salts fields for the hell of it? They did it to protect themselves from future generations of Islamic invasions. I'm not saying that we should honor the crusades or anything, but to just ignore the whole reason they were called, is just bullshit revisionist history.
>>79144815
russia controls media much better than we do, but are incapable of restoring infrastructure without complete regional domination. if you want to find it, you therefore must look at longitudinal studies of the former SSR.
>>79141134
>four millions
amateur... do you even use ovens?
>>79145288
We use bombs and guns.
I wish we could put them in camps though.
>>79141711
>4 million
Absolutely false. Most of these were killed by fellow Muslims. Why are you lying?
>>79144508
How do you feel about all the young men being killed when the Shia take over Sunni areas? I heard over 600 disappeared in Fallujah.
>terrorists kill people
muh mudslime tarrarist
>westerners kill muslim civilians in wars
DEUS VULT MUSLIMS NEEDS TO DIE
You're no better than ISIS.
I'm glad they created a board to contain you manchildren.
>>79142069
The bait is strong with this one
>>79144815
Chechen Muslims have beheaded and killed many Christian Russians.
But thanks to Putin. Chechens are considered Russians because Putin doesnt care about Christianity or the Russian people.
>>79141134
Trump foreign legion when?
>service guarantees citizenship
>>79145527
Don't worry. The U.S. military is full of people like us and we love the killing of Islamic heretics. While in Afghanistan and Iraq, I wore an Under armor shirt with a giant red Cross and had a red Cross patch on my left arm.
Killing muslims while wearing the cross gave the more satisfaction than anything ever has.
>>79145685
Why is it that there are always based people posting from your country but your country is fucking Islamic?
>>79145429
You Americans are sloppy, very sloppy, true.
But to suggest that 1 million, let alone 4, were killed directly by American/western involvement is a complete fabrication. The direct number is in the 10s of 1000s only I suggest, if that. The rest were killed by psychopathic members of the Islamic religion. That is, their fellow religionists.
I am no excusing civilian bloodshed though in any form or in any quantity. However they should try to be at least the tiniest bit truthful with their propaganda.
>>79145747
cool story faggot
>>79145747
lol literally ISIS tier roleplaying. You should join them, they're looking for people like you.
>>79141134
Look I can play that game too
>>79145844
You clearly have never served in the military in any capacity.
In a single fucking drone strike on average we kill about 20 people. Most of that 4 million are non-combatants. But still, they are Muslims non the less. Yes we have killed many civilians by they are also heretics who go against Christianity and I feel no pity for them. Nor do my comrades.
>>79145827
Singapore is not really islamic at all. It is oriental, with some muslim PILs
>>79145870
Why are you so mad?
>>79146021
No. You just don't understand because you are from an irrelevant country which has meant nothing and contributed nothing to civilization.
You don't understand that there is a war between two civilizations going on and it has been going on for quite some time. You may not like the way I think. But the way I think is a direct result of the world we live in. Don't be so quick to judge.
>>79146037
Haha, of course you don't. ;)
>>79146037
so you have done 200,000 drone sorties?
Anyway, I don't believe you. No one has claimed these sort of figures, even marxist loonies. I've encountered estimates of up to 100,000 in Iraq in the entire Iraq war.
I think you're a liar.
Islam is an evil religion, but you don't triumph over evil by practising it
>>79146037
>20 people in each average strike
so full of shit
>>79145092
This, desu.
I've looked and looked for every dead burger soldier I can find on the intertubes to figure out the scope and scale of modern injuries, but they are so few and far between that it's just the same hundred or so photos over and over again. There's nothing in this thread that I haven't seen before dozens of time in the /sg/ threads,
>>79141134
>globalresearch
into the trash it goes
>>79146237
>Only 100,000doed in the Iraq war.
More than half a million have died in the civil war in Syria alone. I just think you're a dumb ass who doesn't like large numbers.
>>79145092
This, they only post the same 20 pics every thread
Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 and over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants.
And most of these civilian casualties were created in the name of Islam
>>79146277
The only time the US conducts single target strikes is for HVTs. Most of the time we are just blowing up something that we think bad guys might be hiding in.
Fuck off you 13 year old bitch.
>>79146181
lol
>>79146346
What's the Syria conflict got to do with the west? The west is involved sure but it didn't create the conflict. The US is barely even there.
>>79141681
Is it that the whole "Americans sit at home dreaming of a home invasion with their guns" stereotype is true on a national level?
>>79146460
Why is it that everyone from Australia is retarded or shitposting?
I've honestly never met a single Australian that isn't a complete piece of shit or full blown retarded. I guess there is a reason you are a country made up of criminals.
>>79146346
>More than half a million have died in the civil war in Syria alone.
Bullshit I just watched Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown and he was in Syria eating tha foods talking to the people's they said thousands died not hundreds of thousands. Sheesh
>>79145121
>Bullshit revisionist history
Irony.
Go read some books.
>>79146647
WHY ARE PEOPLE THIS RETARDED!?
But I also suspect this is a shitpost.
>>79146346
>civil war
>still believe this
>>79146460
You sure the US wasn't one of the countries that started the conflict?
>>79146566
You are a living stereotype, of the fucking ignorant uneducated yank, but I know who you really are
>>79146432
y do you keep saying 'we'? It isn't a football team, its a transnational death creating firm with millions of employees. just because you pushed a mop at Barksdale doesn't mean you get to claim any sort of responsibility. they just tell you that you matter because they have not found a cost effective janitorial AI solution. yet.
>>79146724
>>79146710
Okay kids. Time for bed. Go to sleep like the guy in pic.
>>79146695
which books, moose fucker? $3.50 says your knowledge of history could be best described as Daily Show + Fareed Zakaria
>>79146704
Not really, unless you believe that facebook is promoted by the US gubmint. Yes the US has been meddling, rather stupidly, as has Russia, but these forces were unleashed within Syria itself and the wider ME. You really think that the US wanted Gaddafi and Mubarak to fall? They had to get on the bandwagon when it appeared 'democracy' would prevail.
Yes the US has provided arms and cash for some of the rebel groups ('good terrorists'), but has been most unenthusiastic in its efforts in Syria
Feels great being on top of the world
Leading the fight against Islamist savages
Winning
Not being cucked like Russia or Turkey
And generally being heroes of the Western world
>>79146825
Do something for the world and stop breathing
>>79146884
Russia gets a pass, since you know, they were given permission and all.
>>79146981
There is a reason you are one of the most hated countries on this board.
Not enough
>>79147043
No one comes out of the Syria conflict with much credit, for any reason, but to blame the US or the wider west for it seems infantile
>>79147087
You are subhuman trash aren't you
>>79146825
Did he become tetsuo?
>>79146884
This, mostly.
The Snowden/Asange leaks drastically altered (some might say limited) the westen worlds ability to cooperate on the civilian side of war. military leaders take it for granted that friends spy on each other more than their enemies (it is much easier). state departments and other cancerous elements of bureaucracy think they are so sly with their local machinations and get scared shitless when they realize their correspondences are being poured over by their peers.
dont get me wrong, Obama fucked us real bad on Syria, but THAT my friend is the quagmire the media claimed Iraq was. If we had stayed in Iraq in force, like in SKorea or Japan, this would all be moot.
>>79147279
Oh don't worry, the US isn't the only one at fault here.
>>79141134
Being muslim is a crime, by western laws, because all muslims believe that the Quran is the word of God, and plan to live and act by it. The Quran includes killing (murder) and enslaving (kidnapping) infidels, and raping, therefore they admitting to plan to commit those crimes, and planning crimes is illegal, and they could be deported/jailed/killed for it by a sane government. Also to make their crime more serious by western law, their crimes can be classified as hatecrimes, and organised crime, since their religion is organised.
All 1.6 billion muslims should be killed. And the crusades were defensive, trying to take back christian territories, that muslims invaded.
>>79141134
>0.25%
>genocide
we should call it a false start and get it started for realsies
>>79141134
>globalresearch
>>79141134
does this number account for all those members of ISIS and the like that are not REAL Muslims?
>>79146825
The edgy summerfags have stopped even trying to hide it
>>79141134
Trump was against all that, and Arabs attacked first.
Are all of your type this stupid?
>>79142047
How do you feel about Erdogan?
>>79142047
>fat ratios
wut
>>79147362
trying to assess fault in geopolitics is the hight of stupidity. it is simple to understand that most humans act using self justification regardless of task. each actor acting in its own perceived best interest. to somehow act like these masses act in a concerted way, enough to lay blame anyways, is just pants on head retarded.
>>79141312
>croatia
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>79147348
Yes.
>>79147362
Of course. And the 2nd Iraq War was a disaster from the humanitarian and geopolitical POV, and likely the greater ME would have remained contained without it.
>>79146514
yes in areas outside of southern california and new england
I literally dream about foreign invasions or happening level chimpouts where i can get some target practice with my nugget and hopefully die
>4 million
thats it?
>>79141134
Only 1.596 billion more to go!
>>79147603
Assessing wisdom or sensibleness in geopolitics is fair game though, and in this the US consistently acts extremely counterproductively, although not in every situation
>>79142764
What's amazing about your post is I can actually picture your fat ass in your computer chair typing that out while wearing your MAKE DONALD DRUMPF AGAIN hat.
>edgy summerfags
IM LAFFIN
>>79146884
>unless you believe that facebook is promoted by the US gubmint.
Of course they are. It's been in the fucking news, moron.
>You really think that the US wanted Gaddafi and Mubarak to fall?
Holy fuck. Yes. They fucking stated it as a goal, you fucking idiot.
>They had to get on the bandwagon when it appeared 'democracy' would prevail.
Christ, you're stupid. Let me get a tablecloth to fucking tutor you. I guarantee it's a lot fucking smarter than you.
>Yes the US has provided arms and cash for some of the rebel groups ('good terrorists'),
As has about 30 other countries, probably more, dipshit.
>but has been most unenthusiastic in its efforts in Syria
Thanks, Captain F. Obvious.
>>79142648
>>79142608
>>79142584
>>79142764
>>79142552
>>79142524
You have quite the collection of "dead faggots" on your computer. Do you add the "dead" to keep them separate from your stash of gay porn and pictures of yourself in the mirror?
>>79143213
LITTLE
>>79147697
you can only say that with confidence if you can accurately state what "the US's" intentions were/are. the common misconception that Gulf 2 was about oil for america is wrong. it definitely helped secure chinese and eurofag oil, but the US is ringing the only real threat to our domination of the globe. EU would have had to be dismantled at some point, but AngloBros did us a solid and mitigated that issue for a while. it will also placate russia, as they hate the EU more than anything else right now.
the US failed by investing so much time and effort into Iraq without getting an SK, Japan, or even a fucking Philippines for our time.
>>79143191
>linking literal /x/ tier shit
wew
I'm impressed by your commitment to the islamic caliphate, ahmed
>>79147870
That guy is the best argument we could have for building the border wall.
>>79147788
It wasn't US policy to have Gaddafi and Mubarak fall, since they were supporting both regimes you fucking imbecile. The Eurotrash even more. Relations with Assad were normalizing as well.
I realize that american education is 3rd world level, but still even educated 3rd worlders can show evidence of some intelligence. You are a fucking ignorant nothing and should stop breathing
I don't particularly care about Muslims, but all this is to me is another indicator that Islam fucking hates the west. How couldn't they? They're too inbred to accomplish anything in the modern world where only whites and east Asians thrive and Jewish-run Western military forces HAVE been destabilizing their countries for decades.
So why the fuck should we be amenable to them at all? I would've preferred a world where we didn't lose hundreds of thousands of Americans fighting these wars, but why should our conditions be made worse because of the decisions of globalist elites?
>>79143330
Is shitposting in this thread the only thing you can do to pass the time in your cuckshed?
>>79143899
>I was just blown the fuck out so I will post another dead soldier
trying and failing. what croatia is best at
>>79147933
The Iraq misadventure was ill advised regardless of the intentions. It seems from Dick Clark's reportage that revenge was the primary motivator. I never really rated oil as a large factor, but corruption on the part of Haliburton and its cronies certainly was. Haliburton reaped a lot of rewards from this exercise.
Also once everyone was in, the whole 'minimalist' strategy cooked up by Rumsfeld et al was an absolute disaster.
Mind you, US allies (including Australia) weren't always providing sound advice, more or less just running with it
>>79141134
Gas'em all.
>>79146876
I don't watch cancer m8
>>79144846
>imgur
This is a new world. A world where summerfags have stopped trying to hide it.
>>79146079
Because he lives in Croatia.
i would be mad too
>>79148190
Oil was an illogical motivator if it was involved at all, since Hussein was pretty well dodging the sanctions by that point. They could have said to him, let inspectors loose and we'll remove sanctions, and he would have complied. Hell, it seems he already had complied
>>79141134
Glass the motherfuckers.
>>79148000
>It wasn't US policy to have Gaddafi and Mubarak fall
It was the official policy of the US .gov.
You can have your opinion, but not your own facts.
>>79148028
Israel is just an excuse. Even if Palestine was established, Muslims would still remain subhuman.
>>79148190
Did political wonks fuck up the plan? yes, but do you really think the whole thing was about revenge and a couple billion dollars? certain portions of the american power structure care very little for the short term and very much about the long term. in the furture, we will probably look back and say the bigger mistake was pulling out.
>>79148028
>Jewish-run Western military forces
Humanity is preparing to jump the shark.
>>79148298
So what could have been the motivator do you think?
>>79141134
Virtually every single death in Syria and 95% of the deaths in Iraq have been Shia vs Sunni Muslim on Muslim crime.
Shia and Sunni have killed over a hundred thousand of each others civilians in the last ten years alone in Iraq, through bombing, spree killing and torture. All these deaths happened with no deaths from US forces. The 200000 approx civilians dead in Syria are purely Muslim on Muslim violence, with Sunnis generally killing Shia, Kurds, Christians and pretty much anyone else they could get their filthy savage hands on.
You can blame the West for killing Saddam. But he would have died or been killed eventually and you cant blame the west for Shia and Sunni killing each other since they have been doing that with great gusto for a thousand years before the USA was founded.
This is not a genocide. It's simply savage people in a savage land behaving in a savage way.
>>79148190
>The Iraq misadventure was ill advised regardless of the intentions.
The Iraq war was justified and necessary.
Necessary:
From before my lifetime, the US was accused of, and did, prop up dictators for our own purposes (tbf, as all other world powers do). It was used as a club against us.
Bush proved that they didn't want freedom.
It was a gamble, but the payoff of a democratic Iraq would have been enormous. The chance had to be taken, just once.
Justified:
9/10 of Americans wanted it. We had September 11, a beltway sniper, at least two other planes crashed into buildings, and mass-mailings of poison to political leaders. Saddam was paying bounties to suicide bombers and claiming WMD's, which we knew he'd used recently.
Then, like now, we all agreed that something had to be done about those arabs. We were being attacked, and none one else could do it. Bill Clinton signed the removal of Saddam into US law.
Side note: all the western nations who opposed us (Germany, France, etc), Russia, plus Koffi and his son, made millions on saddams oil-for-food and/or selling weapons to him. That's why they opposed it. Euros are the only people since Japan in the 1930's, and the whole world in 1989, who have went to war specifically for oil.
>>79148298
>and he would have complied. Hell, it seems he already had complied
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
Chemical:
The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.
>>79148375
This only became so after it was clear that the vast majority of people were willing to fight to get rid of them. Then the US and NATO fought against Gaddafi in the name of 'democracy'. Prior to that Gaddafi was getting on great guns with the west, and Mubarak had been actively supported by the west. How old are you, 12?
>>79147563
Fuck erdofag and all the muslims
>>79141134
>being this (((new)))
Should have said six million, OP.
>>79148505
>use WMDs
>invade Iraq
>can't find them
Oy vey.
>>79148627
You make two distinct points.
You also don't know about behind-the-scenes actions taken.
I keep calling you stupid because you base everything on almost no actual data.
>>79148424
There were other arguments, ie having a megalomaniacal dictator interested in nukes (I'm sure this is what convinced Colin Powell). There were more than a few billion to be made, lots of billions in armaments etc.
The pro-Israeli neo-con faction (Wolfowitz, perl) cannot be discounted.
A credible case for regime change could have been mounted (although the one that was offered was limp) but the same arguments could have been made vs Gaddafi at the time. Actually a stronger one in that Gaddafi was always ahead of Iraq on nuke development. Or Iran. Now Assad has used chemical weapons and I forget who I am anymore
>>79148433
See above, a combination of factors, perhaps others were at play as well. Maybe an expression of American might to warn off potential threats? Including Iran. There was that axis of evil speech. I wouldn't discount the notion of establishing American hegemony against all its potential threats, especially post 9/11 when all bets were off
>>79148817
We did find them, Adolph.
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says - CNN
www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html?_s=PM:US
Jul 07, 2008 · The United States secretly shipped out of Iraq more than 500 tons of ... of materials to Canada "Yellowcake" uranium ... be sent by truck to ...
Extended-range missiles:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alpha+company+iraq+diary
>>79141134
>4 million
>out of 1,5 billion enemies
>>79148650
Based kebab. Fatih Terim tier.
>>79148650
How dare you say such a thing.
>>79148971
>CNN
You tried.
>>79148650
BTW it's illegal to say what you just said.
If the Turkish intelligence agency saw that, you would be in Turkish prison.
>be trump
>called islamophobe
>just got done BTFOing neocons from the GOP
>about to BTFO neocon in DNC
>will end lingering neocon foreign policy
>countless fewer muslims will be killed than with killary
>close borders until muslim hatred of US recedes
why does anyone have a problem with this?
>>79149111
CNN is a liberal media outlet so if they admit that there was items to make WMDs, then I believe them because it just makes Bush look good and why the fuck wOULD CNn Want to make Bush look good?
>>79148970
>There were other arguments,
If you're a moron. Let's see if you are.
>ie having a megalomaniacal dictator interested in nukes (I'm sure this is what convinced Colin Powell). There were more than a few billion to be made, lots of billions in armaments etc.
We weren't selling arms to Iraq. Russia, Germany and France did, though. That's why they were against the US.
>The pro-Israeli neo-con faction (Wolfowitz, perl) cannot be discounted.
Yes, we dindu nuffin and an insignificant minority that hates guns calls the shots after dey sto my moneys.
>but the same arguments could have been made vs Gaddafi at the time.
Libya wasn't funding attacks against the US and allies.
>and I forget who I am anymore
If only we all had that blessing.
>>79148505
There was no evidence that Iraq could ever be 'democratized'. The only ones telling Bush this were 2 year interns and corrupt Iraqi cronies.Remember Ahmed Chalabi? Only idiots would have believed his bullshit.
Iraq had no involvement, none, nada, with 9/11. That is another bullshit story.
Hussein himself was an evil nutter, no doubt. But cost benefit analysis would suggest that the war was entirely counterproductive, and it unleashed the whirlwind in the ME. Now Iraq and Syria are a shambles and free reign for terrorists
>>79148619
No evidence for WMD have ever been found in Iraq. The Baathists must've been just good hiders of stuff
>>79149206
>wOULD CNn Want
You ok amigo? Don't quit on me now.
>>79149111
I use CNN, PBS, etc links because liberals have very tiny, closed minds. If it's not on the State Approved List, it doesn't exist.
>>79149290
Wow is that really your response?
>>79149238
OF COURSH!
>>79148876
You seem ignorant of basic facts. Mubarak and Gaddafi were supported by the west until this support became untenable (this is undeniable). Only at this point did their support shift. Mubarak was a key ally. Gaddafi was being courted by Blair (for his oil) and had made huge concessions on WMD.
How is high school going.
Oh wait, I guess you're from the State Department. No wonder your policies are always so shit when you are so misinformed and ignorant.
>>79149214
>Yes, we dindu nuffin and an insignificant minority that hates guns calls the shots after dey sto my moneys.
Are you denying the huge influence of Jews in the west and particularly the US?
>>79149238
Well yes even Trump said Iraq was a mistake.
>>79149366
Meant for
>>79149322
>>79149238
>There was no evidence that Iraq could ever be 'democratized'. The only ones telling Bush this were 2 year interns and corrupt Iraqi cronies.
Bush, like most Americans, believe that people want to be free.
As I stated, it was a chance that had to be taken. Now we can prop up dictators with a clean conscience.
>Iraq had no involvement, none, nada, with 9/11.
Only leftists ever said it did.
This is why I mock you. You don't know much of the story, but you make Judgements anyway.
>No evidence for WMD have ever been found in Iraq.
See? You're a fucking moron.
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says - CNN
www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html?_s=PM:US
Jul 07, 2008 · The United States secretly shipped out of Iraq more than 500 tons of ... of materials to Canada "Yellowcake" uranium ... be sent by truck to ...
Extended-range missiles:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alpha+company+iraq+diary
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
>>79142764
>enjoys American freedoms
>dislikes American soldiers
You seem to be quite the liberal dicksuck
>>79149433
Iraq was a mistake because we went in to nation build.
1. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia first
2. Nation building never works except for very rare cases
>>79149214
Listen you fucking halfwit, I never suggested the US was selling armaments to Iraq. Monies from the war would have accrued to US armament companies from a major war though. How fucking stupid are you?
All the rest is complete drivel. Middle school English has clearly declined.
Iraq wasn't funding terrorist attacks against the US or 'its allies'.
0 out of 5
>no dead Australians
Step up your game fampai.
>>79149372
>Gaddafi were supported by the west
Does that really make sense to you?
The terrorism funder for decades. Lockerbie.
Supported.
You keep making mind-blowingly stupid statements, then ending with
>How is high school going
wew lad
>>79141134
#NOTENOUGHMUSLIMS
>>79141134
>Four Million Muslims Killed in US-NATO Wars: Should We Call It Genocide?
Islam is not an ethnicity, so no. The definition of genocide is not inclusive of ideologies.
>>79149124
>emblyin
only if you tag his name on twitter or facebook like a fucking retard when you do that .4chan is safe
>>79149492
As I've learned in my history courses, democracy only works for a select few people.
Give power to the majority to make decisions for the country is something that is VERY unorthodox. Usually you have elite that just call the shots. But I. The M.E. Religion calls the shots.
The M.E. is too primitive to run on democracy. They are so obsessed with religion that it blinds them. That's why things don't work properly.
>>79144508
KEK BE PRAISED
THE BLACK CUBE IN MECCA IS LITTERALLY A SATANIC SYMBOL.
WITHIN IT LIES YOUR PEDO PROPHET WHO'S ALSO A SATANIST.
YOU SLAIN AND ENSLAVE CHRISTIANS YET YOU DARE TO TALK ABOUT JESUS ?
ALL YOUR KIND CAN DO IS EVIL AND MORE EVIL EVERYDAY IN THE HOPE GOD WILL SHOW UP TO KICK YOUR ASS WHICH WILL PROVE ITS EXISTENCE.
JUST LIKE THE DIRTY KIKES WHO HIJACKED THE HEBREW RELIGION.
ALLAH IN ARAB = GOD
RHALLAH IN ARAB = SHIT
KABAA IN ARAB = THE PROPHET TOMBSTONE
KARHBA IN ARAB = A WHORE
EVEN YOUR LANGAGE TELLS THE SHIT YOU ARE.
>>79149410
If you get ignored, take that as a yes.
>>79149715
I hope so. For your sake.
>>79149492
>>79149578
Neither of you are doing a good job of refuting the other's arguments. Amerifat is doing a little bit of a better job of it but still shit.
Not even worth lurking anymore
>>79149492
Bush was an imbecile, like you.
>The United States secretly shipped out of Iraq more than 500 tons of low-grade uranium dating back to the Saddam Hussein era, the Pentagon said Monday.
Even if this is true, low-grade uranium is not weapons grade is it Kissinger. Iran has considerable uranium but no bombs. Iraq didn't have the technology to produce weapons grade uranium.
If this is true, this has nothing to do with WMD necessarily.
>>79149410
>Are you denying the huge influence of Jews in the west and particularly the US?
Israel soaks up the jihadis and missiles over there, princess.
Of course they have influence. Everyone who works for a living has influence. It's not on par with white influence, or black influence (we have a black Prezzie that hates jews, dipstick), or arab influence (Jarrett), but it's there.
You and your Aussie friend never will, because you're fucking stupid.
>the west love muslims so much because they're going to use this as an accusation to gain leverage on the US
Too bad the west had to become filled with kebabs for it.
Great idea europe.
>>79149781
thanks my burger friend but i am saf-fgategsdgfaegradGDGAHAERGERGREA
>>79149546
>Iraq was a mistake because we went in to nation build.
That was a vital part of the strategy to have a democracy in the ME.
>We should have attacked Saudi Arabia first
This was before shale oil. Oil would have went to $500/barrel and that's the end of the world for a few decades.
>>79141134
1) Its not genocide.
2) 4,000,000 to ~ 5,000 is a good kill ratio if its true(which it likely isn't).
>>79141134
They dont really need our help to massacre each other unless time is a factor
>>79147644
Agree
>>79149492
And here the lieing goes on.
No WMD'S found ergo the whole point of the war was that iraq has them.
Read atleast what stands in the link you tard.
No weaponized uran found. No capebel to make weapons out of it. The last try got bombt by israel in the 80.
Fuck off shill.
>>79149874
You joke but it's very serious. Many Turks have been imprisoned for 'insulting' your president. It's a very scary situation. I honesty feel very sorry for you and the situation you are in. Hopefully you can put up a good fight.
Not enough.
If any military see this you're very bad dogs and should have killed more for your country you goys.
Your horrible killing skills are making me want to defect to Russia.
>>79141134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o
This kike got "Freedom medal"
But hey, I understand you; marked as a kike slave since birth.
>>79149492
>500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says
Weapons grade Uranium and unenriched Uranium Ore (Yellowcake) are not equivalent. You can literally go out into the New Mexico desert and dig up Uranium Ore.
>>79149578
>never suggested the US was selling armaments to Iraq.
I never hinted that you did.
Another example of utter cluelessness.
>Monies from the war would have accrued to US armament companies from a major war though
From the US, to the US. Arms which would have been bought anyway.
You haven't gotten a single thing right.
But since you are anonymous, use this to educate yourself and try again. At least you won't humiliate yourself in public.
>>79149640
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya%E2%80%93United_Kingdom_relations
In early 2004, the U.S. State Department ended its ban on U.S. citizens using their passports for travel to Libya or spending money there. U.S. citizens began legally heading back to Libya for the first time since 1981.
On 15 May 2006 David Welch, Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs, announced that the U.S. had decided, after a 45-day comment period, to renew full diplomatic relations with Libya and remove Libya from the U.S. list of countries that foster terrorism.[121] During this announcement, it was also said that the U.S. has the intention of upgrading the U.S. liaison office in Tripoli into an embassy.[122] The U.S. embassy in Tripoli opened in May, a product of gradual normalization of international relations after Libya accepted responsibility for the Pan Am 103 bombing. Libya's dismantling of its weapons of mass destruction was a major step towards this announcement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Libya_under_Muammar_Gaddafi#United States
For a long time relations between Gaddafi and the west were thawing. There were numerous western companies with contracts in Libya. Blair and Gaddafi were quite chummy. Blair even went to Tripoli in person.
relations began to improve during the 1990s, and peaked in December 2003 when Libya announced that they would abandon their weapons of mass destruction programmes. UK Prime Minister Tony Blair then travelled to Tripoli, met with Gaddafi and declared a "new relationship" between the countries.[4]
>>79149966
Oil would be very pricy for a few months but we would steam roll S.A. And take everything.
If Trump was in power instead of Bush. Things would have went a lot better.
>>79149786
I used facts.
Not my fault if you can't keep up, princess.
>>79150062
I know that but it does happen mostly on popular social websites.Since they can track people down easily on those websites whenever Erdofag is mentioned.It is not the same with 4chan.Even if they could track me down this isnt even my personal computer, same for my wifi hotspot.
>>79149812
They, like Syria, had relations with Best Korea, who does have the tech.
Pakistan is another goatfucker country that also has the tech, and is willing to use it.
>>79150114
Oh dear.
>>79150060
Have someone read this to you, Angela:
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
>>79150108
Pakistan. Korea.
Think, anon.
>>79150196
Not a single fact in any of your subhuman drivel
>>79150295
I think yo momma had relations with yo grandaddy
>>79142270
>Did they think 4 million was believable and anything larger was not?
Probably not to piss the kikes and top their imaginary 6million
>>79141134
Muslims aren't a problem for the US. We are just forced to fight them by the Jews. The United States is literally a tool for the Jews. Same can be said for most western countries though...
The Jews hate Muslims and Islam so they want us to kill them. Sand people that live half way across the world have zero effect on our lives. Until Obama imports enough of them to cause trouble that is...
Fucking Hitler just needs to some back and unfuck our shit already.
>>79150372
If you think a country having 500 tons of Uranium Ore within its borders is worth invading you might as well just invade the whole fucking world.
>>79150128
>December 2003 when Libya announced that they would abandon their weapons of mass destruction programmes
Europeans are not the US. Very seldom do we agree on anything. VERY seldom.
>December 2003 when Libya announced that they would abandon their weapons of mass destruction programmes
Libya did that specifically so the US wouldn't invade and take it.
You just made my point. Thanks. And good job for finding facts.
>>79149546
It works when you stay for 3 or 6 generations in one place and did a genocidel campain before that.
>>79150372
Iran still hasn't got a bomb. Its more difficult than ((you)) 'think'. Merely having diplomatic relations is not the same as acquiring the tech and the know how to produce weaponized uranium.
Yes they did have the means of delivery, but not the material to fit the warhead. Unless it was a sort of 'dirty bomb'
>>79146035
Jesus says that the blame for every murder since the first one falls on jews.
>>79150162
>Oil would be very pricy for a few months but we would steam roll S.A. And take everythin
No, they would have blown up the wells, and we'd be years putting out the fires and re-drilling. Just like Kuwait, but much bigger.
Saudis have always been untouchable until 2010 when the shale boom began (which is why obama hates shale so much?).
>>79150507
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/australia.aspx
In 2015 Australia produced 6689 tonnes of U3O8
>>79150302
The difference between us is that I pointed out your failings in detail, THEN called you names.
You compound your error by making assumptions about anonymous that fly in the face of evidence, whilst I pick on your demostrated flaws. Such as your girly feelings.
>>79150577
>Iran still hasn't got a bomb. Its more difficult than ((you)) 'think'.
The ironic thing is that Iran receives most of the Uranium it uses from the United States.
>>79150523
There were no plans to invade Libya. Libya had prior to this a more advanced nuke programme, and the US just asked it to get rid of it, and then hey presto, normalized relations with an upgrade in diplomatic presence to embassy status
Lmao at this thread.
Both muslims and Americans are filthy pieces of shit with no empathy. You guys are all unworthy of being called human. Darn shame :/ fucking savages.
>>79150419
This could be a learning experience for you, anon.
You're well-written. Now all you need is facts, which you had none of today.
>>79150507
That was only one part of it, anon.
Extended-range missiles:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alpha+company+iraq+diary
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
The investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve but rather points to the issue of several thousands of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/printinfocusnews.asp?nid=354
Chemical:
The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.
Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tonnes and that the quality was poor and the product unstable. Consequently, it was said, that the agent was never weaponised. Iraq said that the small quantity of agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.
>>79150577
We haven't talked about Iran.
The best guess is that they'll need about 10 years still. Probably less, because they've made bases off-limits to inspections, and obama agreed.
>>79150796
>The ironic thing is that Iran receives most of the Uranium it uses from the United States.
Source it, or you're a liar.
>>79150806
>There were no plans to invade Libya.
Never said there were. Libya assumed it.
Once again, champ, you got everything wrong and don't seem to care.
>>79150756
your 3rd grade analysis is pitiful and wouldn't pass a high school history project. You provide no substantiation for your assertions. You misunderstand the implications of the data you are shown. You are pathetic
>>79151171
Have a good day, anon.
>>79151155
Boy your debating points are full of sparkling wit and point
>>79150295
Next, you're going to tell me that Assad gassed his own people, right? ;)
>>79150897
I would argue that by invading Iraq we were putting dangerous substances such as Uranium Ore and Agent VX into the hands of extremist groups that cropped up after the Iraqi regime fell.
Ask yourself this question: If Iraq had a nuclear weapon, or weaponized chemicals, then who would they use it on? They're not mentally retarded, they understand what Mutually Assured Destruction is. They also understand what a concerted international effort to fuck their ass would do to them after the Gulf War.
I guarantee you that, somewhere along the line, uranium and chemical weapons fell through the cracks and are currently sitting in an ISIS-controlled stockpile somewhere just begging for the right moment to be used.
>>79151056
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/09/18/440567960/born-in-the-u-s-a-how-america-created-irans-nuclear-program
We've been providing Iran uranium for half a century. The "new deal" we instituted also includes provisions for the United States to provide Uranium to Iranian nuclear facilities.
>>79150995
Why the fuck then did Iraq need to be invaded then? Because it had 500 tons of low grade uranium? Stop Cleetus, you are doing a disservice to your great country by trying to represent it (really poorly)
>>79151328
This frightens me too, anon. The Baathists morphed seamlessly into the Sunni militias> ISIS. Certainly, Hussein was less of a threat to the west potentially than ISIS are.
>>79151473
Since ISIS is apparently being run by remnants of Hussein's military and intelligence apparatus, they really represent a continuation of his state rather than anything else.
>>79151473
Hopefully it won't come to that but for all we know those weapons did exist and we just didn't find them. That's the scariest part: If George W. Bush was right but in our rush to stomp his regime we figuratively let actual WMDs fall of the face of the Earth. Even if ISIS doesn't use them those weapons could turn God-Knows-Where for any reason. They could sell them, hide them, or use the weapons themselves.
Iraq was the enemy we knew. Theoretical free-floating WMDs are worse.
>>79151851
Hussein wasn't an islamist. Yes ISIS and Baathist Iraq are related, but ISIS represent a greater potential threat to the west, because they (like all islamists) do not behave rationally. MAD means nothing to these people, because nuclear warfare will likely hasten the battle of dabiq
>>79152009
>Iraq was the enemy we knew. Theoretical free-floating WMDs are worse.
This, my friend, is exactly the point.
However I do doubt that Saddam had anything significant along the nuclear side. He seems to have been further from it than even the most optimistic analysts were suggesting.
He did have others which must have been squirrelled away. On the other hand, Pakistan's nukes have never been all that secure. If ISIS have a bomb, it is far more likely (IMHO) to have been sourced from Pakistan
>>79152014
ISIS are either winning or not losing very quickly, Hussein was hanged after being found in a cramped little bunker in an orchard.
I'm inclined to say that if they're winning, then they're doing the rational thing. The leaders might be drawing on an irrational populace, but that doesn't mean they're irrational.
>>79152131
I mean he definitely did have other forms of WMD which he either disposed of (unlikely) or hid away really well. The chemical and biological weapons. ISIS probably have these I guess.
>>79152288
Let's say they operate on a self-contained logic, which is rational within the parameters of its absurdity. They aren't self-defeating obviously. Perhaps I am using irrational in 'hitchens terms'.
>>79141312
fuck off refugee
>>79141134
>Four Million
Inflated number which includes Mud on Mud killings
