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UK just BTFO by Merkel


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>I can only recommend to our British friends not to delude themselves. There will be neither formal nor informal negotiations until the UK has invoked Article 50, requesting to leave the EU.
>These negotiations will not be based on the principle of "cherry picking". If you want to leave this family, you cannot expect to get rid of your obligations but keep all your privileges. It has to make a difference whether a country is part of the EU family or not.

TOPKEK they will probably end up with all obligations like before, with fewer of the benefits and all of their special privilegies like vetoing gone. They won't actually have any representation at all. Fools.
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>>79070064

We cannot be caged
We cannot be controlled.

Understand this as you die, ever pathetic, ever fools.
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>the EU
>doing anything

nice meme, brits will keep the exact same benefits.
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>>79070064
>you cannot expect to get rid of your obligations but keep all your privileges
Well yea they can. The UK will have their cake, scrape off the ugly frosting shit and eat the cake too
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>>79070318

God damn, Irenicus was such a god tier villain.
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>>79070064
meanwhile norway and switzerland both have access to the single market and all other benefits while not being a EU member

wew
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>>79070064

Our vetos were ignored anyway, the EU is a dirty lefty organisation and maybe you Marxists want to be a part of it but the UK has always veered to the right
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>>79070064

When will the Cuckwursts excise this cancerous wench.
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>>79070064
How can they have any obligations? Do I pay taxes to Burkina Faso?
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Rage on brits, fuck Merkel and fuck EU

>>79070523

GOAT game
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>>79070318
>>79070523
Silence dog! You have no purpose but to die by my hand!

>>79070523
He was pretty jacked too.
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>>79070622
idk just bought 2000€ of goods from Germany instead of Switzerland due to me having to pay duty fees if I bought from Switzerland
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>>79071329
Switzerland BTFO
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>>79071329
>dragon dildos
>goods
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>>79070064
NO. TAXATION. WITHOUT. REPRESENTATION.
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>>79070064
Also they will lose Gibraltar and Scotland and Ireland

Fucking REKT
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>>79071706
>implying brits care
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By the time the uk actually leaves which could take another 2 years the EU will be close to collapsing anyway.
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>>79071329
what goods did u have to buy from germany or switzerland and you couldnt buy from ur own country?
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>>79070064

merklebot damage control in effect
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>>79071883
You can buy many things but Finland usually has higher VAT
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>>79071883
German whores.
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>>79071858
The longer this takes the longer we pay money into this shitshow

MERKEL IS RIGHT

UK needs to hurry the fuck up and get the fuck out

The sooner the better lads. Only then can we stop paying into the EU funds and TAKE BACK CONTROL
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meh, the UK will just shut their side of the channel to any boat looking to travel up in to Europe, crippling their industries and causing huge backlogs on the french side.
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>>79072337

That would be some top banter lad
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>All this chaos in Europe

Kek has brought us a bounty.
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>16% of EU exports, worth $1.6 trillion, is exported to UK.
>Is their largest single market
>UK, exports to EU is 10x smaller than EU to UK
>Exports to EU falling drastically since its peak in 1999 and is set to continue.
>Rotterdam effect, the process of exports being counted as going to the EU despite the fact they may be going to a different country entirely isn't factored into it, meaning even less goes to the EU.

MFW buyers have more bargaining power than suppliers.

MFW we don't have the economic shakels of Brussels anymore

MFW we can trade with anyone we want.

EU BTFO whatever they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuAK8gFN3g
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>>79070064

Dont worry Merkel, we will declare article 50 in January, meanwhile we are having informal discussions with non-EU countries already.

Lets see how your Euro is doing 7 months from now.

"Frohe Weihnachten"
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>>79072270
And that means less time for your economy to prepare for leaving. They want you to leave as soon as possible to destabilize the UK and make you an example.
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>>79071329
you probably paid more in shipping and transportation fees than you would by buying in your own country idiot
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>>79073105

Tory Ubersoldat Boris will de-regulate the city and unmuzzle British exceptionalism, abolish the foreign corrupt practices act and a new age will dawn.
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>>79070064
mate merkel is going to get merk'd soon, as some germans are calling for a EU referendum and she basicly said fuck off

now a goverment should be scared of the people as a goverment that goes against the will of the people won't be a goverment for long.

I was a remain voter but riots will break out if we don't leave the EU now so even if the UK GOVT were like we don't epect to leave its cool they shot them slef in the foot now.
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>>79070064
>friends
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>>79073381

this is why we are not even declaring article 50 until January.
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>>79073497
The VAT difference could easily amount to 200 american monies so probably not
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>>79073596

It's hilarious, the EU must be scrambling the rewrite the law so that any votes automatically declare it
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>>79073105
Where did you get those numbers?
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>>79073105
>yfw the entire financial sector of London City moves to Frankfurt because they can't provide financial services to the inner market from a non EU country
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>>79071858
Are you ever going to leave? Do you have a politician brave enough but also electable who will dare to pull the plug?
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>>79073105
https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/EU_and_Non-EU_Data.aspx

>Non-EU Exports for April 2016 were £13.0 billion.
>EU Exports for April 2016 were £12.0 billion.

Say goodbye to 50% of your exports and immediate economic collapse.
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>>79071329
You don't need to pay duty fees if you buy from Switzerland.
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>>79070318
correct the text in pic. Change to mudslimes
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>>79073826

https://fullfact.org/europe/do-half-uks-exports-go-europe/

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/international-transactions/outward-foreign-affiliates-statistics/how-important-is-the-european-union-to-uk-trade-and-investment-/sty-eu.html

https://fullfact.org/europe/where-does-eu-export/

UK trade to the EU has been falling for years now. With ourselves finally unshakled from the EU we can finally pursue these markets with more vigour. The EU is about to become a dead duck my Finnish friend.
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>>79070064
Why is it so hard for them to understand that all we want is free trade? They would even benefit more as we buy more than we sell to the EU.

I would even agree to signing up to the EU standard organisations as everyone following the same standard makes things easier and cheaper.
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>>79073991
Death to Krauts!

Pray, pray, pray for the German Genocide! Purge the world of all evil, the Kraut!

Sail, sail, sail to the farthest Neverland! Free from the son of the Devil, the Kraut!
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The only way to stop the Claudenhove-Kalergi plan is to genocide the Germans.
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>>79071883
obviously he is talking about refugees
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>>79073596
Damn right, don't even start googling it yet
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>>79074314
I want Finland to leave EU but you're being overly optimistic about all this.
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>>79074341
Why don't you start be genociding the gypsies?
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>>79070064


Nice try, Finnfag. Now go back to breeding with your reindeer in the snowy wasteland.
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>>79073925
>TFW they said this would happen when the UK didn't join the single currency.
>MFW Frankfurt and Paris will always be cucked by London.
>Then finds the EU crashing and burning with no survivors.

Can almost gurantee the financial sector based London isn't going anywhere. Europe is just a risky at the moment.
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>>79074529
Second on the list after the Teutonic Traitors.
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>calls the EU a family
lmao they are no longer hiding their inexorable move to a superstate are they
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>all this eurocuck fussing because we've avoided the great cuckoning while they will trip over the dogs balls as they don't have the jimmy jamberinos to skidaddle out the muffins like the ponces they are

You're having a giraffe!
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>>79073105
You do realize that UK exports to EU constitute 50% of UK exports?
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>>79073596
You cannot stabilize your market until you have opened negotiations and given investors security. If you bought into we're totally going to do this next year lie, you're done. Pressure will be building up and remainers will use all their power to spread fear among normies.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10613133/r
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>>79074495

I'm willing to accept a trade war with the EU is going to be bad for both. However, when France, Spain and Italy are 1200 billion euros in the red and rely heavily on British trade, it's going to end badly for them.

Brexit was never going to be smooth sailing from day one, but the longer we're out the better we'll do.
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>>79074806
I'll have to go with Denmark.
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>>79073991

>Doesn't mention German trade to UK

KEK, say goodbye to your economy.
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>>79074134
rare?
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>>79074621
I thought they were complete wankers for even announcing job cuts. Everyone knows they're not going anywhere until they work out what else is happening in Europe, but it sent the headless chickens off in circles again
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>>79074764
EU controls how much we trade and to whom, so yeah.
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The English are the master race. Germans are just a bunch of Jonny Come Lately. All Heil Britannia!
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>>79070318
I'll have to remind you that our generals came up with the Bloodpump of Verdun
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>>79070622
They both have to accept movement of workers, pay into the EU budget and comply with regulations.
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The Kraut bitch will be in a world of pain when England by itself overtakes the putrid German economy.

Death to Krauts!
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>>79074982
German exports to GB in 2014 were only 7% of all German exports.
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>>79075020

Bankers have no allegiance or loyalty to anyone. Everything they say and do is calculated, as the famous saying goes 'don't waste a good crisis'.
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>All these deluded bongs

If you think Brexit won't severely hurt the UK economy you're stupid.

If the UK wants to remain in the single market, it will have to respect the 4 EU freedoms.

So they still have to follow EU policies, only difference being that now they no longer have any power to influence said policies. Ergo you will not "take back control of the borders".

If they do not want to stay in the single market (which is never gonna happen unless UKIP form the government), their economy will collapse over night.

Speaking of the UK, it likely won't even exist in the next 5 years thanks to the Scots (and maybe even the Irish).

gg Cameron
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>>79075271
Yet neither of them, not even combined, represent anywhere near 1.6trillion worth of revenue for the EU.

Just as Farage said this morning, if the EU decide to cut off its nose to spite its face, it would hurt the EU more than it would hurt the UK.
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>>79074621
Can you make an exception for us? We never wanted to leave your side, cousins of the isles
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>>79070064
Merkel will be gone soon. How will any of her plans come into fruition in the short time she has left?

If Germany tries to enforce Fourth Reich countries will vote out. The French want out... The EU is going to just fall apart.

Fuck this gay-ass union with these fag countries. England always hated France, Germans are cucks, Swedes are cucks, etc.
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>>79074724
What language is this?
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Good times ahead bros
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>>79070064
>There will be no negotiations until you leave
>There will be, once you leave
I see no problem, anon
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>>79075556
thats english

we speak murican
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"this family"

We are not European. We are British. If Europe keeps pushing their luck like they have been, the whole reason we wanted out, they will feel the wrath of the Saxon.
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>>79075388

>The UK is your third largest export market
>BMW alone has a 27.6% of its total sales in the UK
>Kraut actually thinks this is fine

Jesus, I thought Germans were smart.

https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigures/NationalEconomyEnvironment/ForeignTrade/TradingPartners/Tables/OrderRankGermanyTradingPartners.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
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>>79070064
BASED
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>>79074764
Yeah but you guys buy a whole lot more from the EU than you sell to them. They need you more than you need them.

Free trade deal should be easy for you guys to negotiate.
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>>79075749
Are you saying you can survive losing 50% of your exports longer than we can survive losing 7% of ours?
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>>79075439

No, it means the UK would go into a trade war with the EU. Which it would ultimately win as they aren't shakeled by EU tariffs and regulations...
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>>79075908

Are you saying the EU can survive without 16% of its exports, worth $1.6 trillion?

In any trade war, the EU is coming off second best.
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>>79075908
>trying to use logic against Inselaffen
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>>79076031
I'm saying they can survive it longer than you can survive losing 50% of yours.

Because 50 > 16.
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>>79076031
I would infact say that the EU will survive losing 16% of it's exports far better than the UK losing 50%
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>>79070064
>get rid of your obligations but keep all your privileges
What? So being an outlet for German goods is a privilege? She forgets that deals should always be beneficial for both sides.
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>>79076176
The country that gets twice as much EU money as Greece each year need not post in this thread.
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>>79076031
>>79076071

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/OTS.aspx

> BUYER>SUPPLIER

Relative to negotiating power
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>>79076160
>the EU will survive
If you deliberately sabotage our trade with the UK we will leave as well. As will other countries.

Besides, it's not about who loses more. If the negotiations are done by petty manchildren who want "revenge" ALL OF US ARE FUCKED. 2008 was nothing in comparison with what could happen.
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>>79076273
>Not an argument
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>>79076160
>>79076154

France, Spain and Italy are 1200 billion euro in debt. Can they survive a trade war? It's a damn shame the rest of Europe isn't like Germany, isn't it?
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>Abandon all delusions of democracy
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>>79075016
Too common these days, completely devalued
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>>79070347
The thing is, if Merkel actually did something and our Dave wasnt a spineless cunt

The EU would be addressing is huge issue with """free movement""" rather than holding onto it as if its a good thing.
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>>79071762
Being this delusional.
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>>79076511
Debt is meaningless. The US and Japan are up to their eyeballs in debt but their average citizen doesn't really feel it
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>>79076511
>France, Spain and Italy are 1200 billion euro in debt. Can they survive a trade war?
If France is in such need, then why are they blocking the free trade deal with the USA which is a much more important partener than Britain?
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>>79070064
How the fuck does this awful cunt have so much power that she personally gets to dictate everything that happens to all of europe?
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>>79076942
Germans being huge cucks basically.
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>>79076861
>free trade
No such a thing in EuroCommunism.
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>>79076942
Because that's what Germans do.
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>>79070064
>There will be neither formal nor informal negotiations until the UK has invoked Article 50, requesting to leave the EU

for domestic consumption. the negotiations already started in secret
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>>79076942
Germany is big
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>>79077068
Countries that would collapse without EU investment in eastern Poland need not post ITT.
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>>79076813

>Debt is fine
>Example of Greece
>Every nation has a tipping point
>If UK stops trading with EU then massive unemployment and businesses shut down that are reliant on that trade.
>Confidence drops
>Stuck in euro where they can't artifically devalue the currency to attract investment.
>France devalued to Junk bond status
>France becomes Greece 2.0, as does the majority of European countries reliant on UK trade.

Debt is fine, as long as a country is growing and creating jobs. If they continue to gain debt and their economies take a short, sharp shock it is possible that France could fall into a similar position to Greece.

That really would be check mate for the EU.
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>>79076942
Germany is basically funding the entire EU, especially now that the UK is gone and France's economy is non existent
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>>79077294
I honestly find it delusional that you'd think that the EU would collapse sooner than the UK.
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Isn't the point of the EU to have peace and prosperity for people? Setting aside all the mistakes the EU have already made against such noble ambitions is it not really in opposition to their mission statement to give the UK hell when they try to maintain mutually beneficial interactions with the EU while trying to cut out interactions that are harmful to their peace and prosperity? The UK didn't vote to leave a noble alliance of peoples, they voted to escape the tyranny of a few ambitious elites who are more interested in power than the welfare of people.
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>>79076861

>Muh regional farmers
>Muh jobs
>Pressure from both groups

Regulation and protectionism promotes rent-seeking behaviour.
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>>79077204
Did your girlfriend left for superior Polish cock or what?

Let me remind you that before your investments we had accelerating growth.
Those strategic investments only exists to protect your economy.
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>>79077391
France has overtaken the UK as the 5th largest economy after the pound collapsed
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>>79075732
>ok mum I'm moving out. I'm sick of being locked in the basement with all these other people. I also found your diagram titled 'human centipede' and I don't like that idea at all.

>HOW DARE YOU AFTER EVERYTHING I HAVE GIVEN YOU! I GUESS YOU WON'T MISS YOUR GOOD BOY POINTS THEN HUH?!
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>>79077076
Choose to be led by fat little communist bitches?

Not sure Germany is historically known for this, it seems to be a more recent phenomenon.

>>79077109
Are you 4 years old?

>>79077391
Yeah but that doesn't explain why her? Who decided she would be the one? Why on earth was she chosen to be the leader of europe?

She seems to just make terrible decisions that threaten to destroy europe.


How did she come into power?

It just doesn't make sense for one fat dumpy lesbian to suddenly rule europe.
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>>79077759
Shut up and eat your tendies.
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>>79077294
If you honestly believe that the UK, with 45% of its exports and 55% of its imports reliant on the EU, will somehow have more leverage during trade negotiations with the second biggest trading entity in the world, you are so massively deluded that the world would be better off if you an hero
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>>79077796
>Are you 4 years old?
Are you?
“Poor old Germany. Too big for Europe, too small for the world”
t. Henry Kissinger
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>>79077204
Holy Shit, Achmed !
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>>79075908
They wouldnt lose them. You are both still WTO members. That max of 10 percent tariffs.
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>>79077476

Let's take a look at the state of the EU, shall we?

>Mass discontent about the refugee crisis
>The enforced economic and fiscal suicide of Greece
>Increasing centralisation of political and legislative powers to EU
>Massive debt and stagnant growth for the vast majority of the EU member nations

Shall we add a trade war with it's largest single market whilst we add it? The UK doesn't need to destory the EU, all it needs to do is bring the EU to the negotiating table. It has more than enough clout to do this, especially under the circumstances highlighted above.
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>>79070064

I thought Merkel was filled with compassion? Just overflowing with love so much that she had to take in all of the thousands of refugees and push her loving agendas. How come she is found wanting for these people who voted for independence? Don't all of the Refugees take all of the privileges without any obligation? This woman is acting awfully a lot like fucking HITLER.
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>>79070064
>the EU family

Where all the kids are locked and chained in the basement. UK managed to get out somehow.
Hopefully they'll tell the world what happened here and come back for us.
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>>79078173
I think you're wrong but the good thing is that we'll just have to wait and see. Screenshot this post.
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>>79070064
Someone needs to execute this disgusting cunt right along with 95% of the pathetic German population.
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>>79075556
>You're having a giraffe!
You're having a laugh! (They're taking the piss.)
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>>79077796
She's the Chancellor of the 4th biggest economy in the world, and the largest one with the largest population in Europe.

It's funny because the EU was originally set up to limit Germany and allow France and Benelux to influence them.

Today Germany is cucking the all of Europe politically and is using the Euro in order to help their economy at the expense of southern Europe.
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>>79077914

>It's not 45% as this doesn't take into account the rotterdam effect.
>55% of imports has no meaning, we've been forced into buying EU goods due to regulations. We can actually now get a far more competitve price for goods we import compared to what we pay now.
>Leading to the cost of living falling.
>Exports to the EU have been falling since 1999 and are set to continue that way.
>Leaving the EU means we can actually now trade with far more countries
>UK is a massive global market

Yes, the UK is more than capable of fending for itself.
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we will file articale 50 once we have kicked scotland out of the uk.. you can have scotland
since there a member of the common wealth, they will be are back door into the free market

you know what, we might not even file articale 50, under the same human rights used to enable this refurremdum, we might just tuuuurn are back on the ***FREE MARKET***
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>>79077586
>Isn't the point of the EU to have peace and prosperity for people?
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>>79078173
>He wants to negociate with EU after he voted to get out!!!
Hahaha!
Remind you that you already negociated with EU.
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>>79078590
Germans have a problem with telling people how to live their lives. They were put in front of firing squads for it at one point.

At this point I'd take kikes over Germans.
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>>79077984
Your answer to how Angela managed to take over europe is "germany is big". Yeah great, and cars go vroom. You fucking retard.

No wonder you've had this bitch rule over your country for 10 years. Germany is a nation of retards.

I'm convinced all the good German genes were killed off in the second world war so now all that is left is pansy pussy man and communist rape baby genes.
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>>79078403
You guys are both still WTO members. Why do you think you will be in a trade war?
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>>79077586
The EU is about financial control. Nothing else. Prosperity? Lmao bruh.
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>>79075908
The UK foresaw it. A great unmaking, whispered years before, but shouted now.

There is a temple, Mr German. A temple called Europe. It was once a beautiful place, each temple was separate but within the same grounds. Sometimes the temples quarrelled with others, but in spirit they were all the same. Soon the men of these temples elected to build a grand temple, from which all lesser temples would support for their own benefit. A temple of commerce and kinship. But the kin of the first men who worshipped at this this temple wanted it to grow. They looked outside, saying to others that they could worship at this temple, provided they supply their own bricks and add to the structure. The temple grew. B it grew ugly and unwieldy, as too often were these bricks weak; removed too soon from the kiln, or made with inferior clays. The more whom were welcomed to the temple, the heavier and less structurally sound they made it. The men of the temple did not heed the architects' and engineers; warnings, for these templemen's greed was unmatched. Soon the temple groaned and creaked, as though the structure were begging for death. "MORE BRICKS!" they would shout. But sometimes the worshippers would borrow bricks for their own lesser temples. "We need these bricks because our temple is crumbling. Please help us!" they begged. "Fine, take these bricks for now, but when you must pay us back and give us more bricks when you can." "Of course!" thanked the men of the lesser temples, "Anything!" But they would lose their bricks, or break them before their own temples could be mended, so they borrowed more. Now the Great Temple of Europe is a swaying, misshapen mass. The people whom worship there have forgotten why they worship, or what they are worshipping.
The UK, foreseeing the great collapse, opted to take back their bricks to build their own temple bigger and more grand, because it is easier to make a structure from old bricks, than it is to make one from dust.
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>>79078821
Don't forget to deliver that cake to the gay wedding, goy.
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>>79078649
Then why are the Tories desperately trying to remain in the single market?
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>>79078840
So do you want to know why Germany dominates Europe or why Merkel got elected 3times?
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>>79078974
Don't forget to offer your female children to their muslim husbands pathetic nazi.
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>>79078821
> telling people how to live their lives
> American
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>>79076273
You bullying the poles again kraut? You would think you would have learnt your lesson
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>>79070064
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>>79078978

No, it's why we're playing for time. Why jump into a cold pool when you can slowly lower yourself in?
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>>79078590
Yeah and that explains German power. But I'm talking about Angela in particular.

Look at her. Just look at her.

If I lived in the same house as this fat old little dyke with a bowl cut like her I wouldn't allow her to run the household. How the fuck does a retarded cunt like this end up running Germany for 10 fucking years and destroying europe?
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>>79075439
>If the UK wants to remain in the single market, it will have to respect the 4 EU freedoms.

This more than anything shows how regressive EU policies are. If European states, in order to have a common market and maintain peace, must have open boarder and destroy their nation states, Europeans are fucking savages because no other trading block perhaps in history has to submit to such terms.
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>>79078953
*clap clap clap* well said, this is the best story i have seen to explain the reason for the UK the leave the EU.
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>>79079071
Merkel.
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AFAIK, until article 50 is invoked, UK is still part of the EU.
So they still have access to the EU market.
And the opposite is true.
If they decide to lift trade barriers against the UK, there will be retaliations. And then the EU blows up.
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>>79079462

See, this guy gets it.
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>>79079393
>brainwashed America doesn't realise free markets means free movement of labour in addition to goods, services, and capital
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>>79078590
It was Germany's call to import the negroid that caused the Brexit. Why can't they accept responsibility?
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>Single EU member votes (doesn't actually) to leave
>Entire EU economy in disarray

So what's so strong about this union?
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>>79079462
* 'lift' trade barriers.
I meant raise. Because French.
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>>79070064
>being this butthurt
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>>79070064
EU needs UK more than UK needs EU
Even if The EU decided not to trade at all with UK which they won't, UK would still have countless other countries to trade with. Meanwhile The EU needs UK's sweet sweet dosh, but more importantly needs them so they make investors think EU doesn't just stand for Germany, France, and Outer Vassal States
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>>79078953
Well aren't you a pretentious little cunt. Fancy yourself a poet? You should start by learning the difference between "whom" and "who."
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>>79079462
if scotland left the uk before we file articale 50 would they stay part of the EU? or is this the kind of thing articale 50 is there to solve?
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>>79079558

>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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Merkel and the rest of these autistic left-wing fucks STILL don't understand why Brexit happened in the first place.

Sad!
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>>79079392
>>79079459
She first got elected after Schröder, an SPD chancellor made massive reforms that while needed were unpopular and have led to the party shrinking by more than 10%.
After she got elected the positive effects of the reforms kicked in and we survived the financial crisis in relatively good shape.
So the SPD dropped to 20% in the second election and Merkel formed a coalition with a small party. There didn't really happen during that term besides Merkel looking at what people think is good and adopting that stance.
Now she fucked up in her 3rd term and her party is dropping in polls massively
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>>79079706
>pretentious
>Fancy yourself a poet?
What kind of artsy fartsy faggot talk is this? I bet you spend lots of time reading gay books and shit ay faggot?
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>pay 350 million pounds a week
>get back 260 million of it in subsidies and redevelopment
>able to access the market for exports and imports, bringing an estimated 1.3 trillion pounds of business to the UK
>this is somehow a bad deal
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>>79079947
He probably actually READS Playboy lmao
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>>79079785
You do realize the EU subsidies are actually a tactical move?
It's not actually meant to help farmer/industries.
It's meant to make sure a country breaks up if it decides to leave.
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>>79070064
then why is she complaining?
that would be good for her country right?
also why she told that they will need to get refugees ? she is threatning using refugges?
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>>79079785

Unless something drastic has changed since Sunday the EU have already told Sturgeon to whistle for her EU membership for Scotland.
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>>79079830
Trump shill.
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>>79070064
I aint' repeating myself;

>>79079714
>>79079270
>>79078887
>>79078444
>>79078031
>>79077905
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Just cut off all contact with the EU and trade heavily with the US, Russia, China and Canada.

....then make war on the EU. EU's market will tank hard when it no longer exists.
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>>79079706
gramma nazi, i bet you state you can see the strings when you watch thunder birds (its who'm btw, who may)
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She is literally damage controlling at this point trying to plug the gaping hole in the sinking ship that is the EU.
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>>79079144
Kek, our president only gets involved in your shit because the EU loves having his nigger ass back them up.

I would love to cut all ties to Europe outside of the uk. They are the only ally worth a shit.
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>>79079785
They would have to file for electability.
But they would fail, as the EU wouldn't see anything to gain from that money sinkhole.
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>>79070064
>Germany says we cant cherrypick
>We say fine and tell them to fuck off entirely
>German businesses cuck Merkel into making us a deal so they dont lose out on 50billion shekels a year
Not seeing the problem here desu
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>>79079785
You don't even have to bother thinking about it.
Scots have it covered to ruin every vote they participate in.
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>>79070064
We know very well about it here in "flag".
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>>79080077
commen wealth bitchs, WE SHALL NOT WE SHALL NOT BE SLAVES
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>>79070064
I knew the muslim fuhrer will punish the briteeths for not wanting to be ruled by globalists.
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>>79080190
Sure. What do the Brits have to trade with us?

>steel

but we have a steel industry, and we even export it because we don't need it.

>airbus components

We have multiple large manufacturers of better quality airliners.

>financial market

the US is the largest, most stable economy in the world for a reason.

The UK has nothing to offer us, and they only have a few million people, so I don't really give a shit. Why bother trading with them? It's just an island in the middle of nowhere, now.
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>>79079558
Cut the fucking shit, alright? Even if somehow free markets require freedom of movement, it's a level of "freedom" that virtually no country is willing to tolerate. Besides, that would really only apply to Freedom of movement for workers, which was established in 1951 in the Treaty of Paris, in contrast to the general freedom of movement established by the Treaty of Maastricht in 1992. But you obviously don't want a serious discussion. You just want to shitpost, like the dumbass Canuck that you are, to the extent that I disagree with anyone who said Australians are bigger shitposters than Canadians.
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Obligations? We'll be having those war reparations you never paid back then.
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>>79076154

We can trade with whoever else we want, while the EU is dictated exactly who to trade with, that is the difference.
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>>79080190
Unfortunately, Anon-kun, that's moot, because we have nukes.
Maybe we could leave.
Then there's basically no army left in the EU.
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>>79080190
Just wondering but you are aware that Britain has the most anti-russian stance of europe's major economies, right?
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>>79070064
>If you want to leave this "family"

These fuckers even sound like cult leaders.
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>>79070064
she cant do shit in the next two years are elections in German and if she just to get back at the uk fucks over the car manufactures she will lose millions of votes.
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>>79080530
elect marie le pen already :)
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>>79080190
As I mentioned here
>>79080181

Britain should start a Commonwealth Trading Tour, where they strengthen the trade amongst those countries. Considering the commonwealth has a far larger market (in both terms of people and money), they all speak English, and won't demand stupid Marxist rules be followed, there's no losing for Great Britain following that strategy.
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>>79070064

I like how they make it seem the EU is about being friends, family and together but the second you don't want to be a part of it they try to extort you, punish you, and force you to remain in anyway they can.

Sounds like a fucking trap in order to easily rule over your country without war.
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>>79080481

>mfw UK exports more to USA than we import from them.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/OTS.aspx
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>>79080583
I know, what do you expect from Germans though? Their entire history is nothing but evil and control.
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How does Angela have so much power in the EU structure? Yeah, she's the leader of a major nation within the union but it seems like she's swinging a lot more weight than that around.
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>>79080813
don't let Trump know that
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>>79080530
I'd like an option where we leave, but I don't have to vote for this shit. She's way more reasonable than her father, but still.
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>>79071329
Basically everything I import comes from the States so I don't care. Looking forward to not having to pay double for buying from America as a punishment for not buying pickled fish from a Euro country instead of a dope Nuclear Throne tee. (yeah, I know where Vlambeer are from)
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>>79080008
>able to access the market for exports and imports, bringing an estimated 1.3 trillion pounds of business to the UK

>implying this trade didn't exist before the EU
>implying it wont exist after it
>implying trying to shut down this trade wouldn't hurt Germany far far worse than it would the UK since the UK is the biggest buyer of German goods
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>>79070064
>mfw the UK freezes all EU assets in response to their badgering

>mfw threats about free movement are met with nationalization of foreign assets

>mfw Albion is perfidious once again
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>>79080481
culture and heritage, you bitchs like tons or british shit, damn bitch you even called one of your places "new england"
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>>79080879
muh drinking too much.
meant to link this
>>79080735
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>>79079861
>some dude did some good shit
>bunch of germans are fags so they elect the opposition
>the good shit the dude did earlier means she gets a free ride
>because of this germans through he a party with cakes and shit and celebrate the ugly fat turd of a woman even though she did fuck all
>germans decide that's a good reason to keep worshiping the fat little goblin who hates germany as their leader
>she decided to finally initiate her master plan to destroy europe with mass muslim invasion
>it's a race against time, which will come first the next german vote or enough muslims to keep her in power forever
>german opinion polls now say they are mindly annoyed by her
>but it's ok because she will win back public approval by deporting some rapefugees but really it's just the one's that aren't planning on voting for her

Are germans actually this retarded now? Don't you remember when you started a war that killed over 60 million people just because some kikes are annoying cunts?

You don't even have to kill anyone this time all you have to do is stop voting for ugly feminists with terrible haircuts.
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>>79080866
why does she have so much power over Europe? Because of the EU and the power you've allowed it to have over your nations.

It's a cult
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>>79080813
>imports higher than exports 41 billion ounces sterling to 25 billion ounces sterling
>16 billion trade deficit
>75% of it EU and 25% non-EU
>non-EU exports don't go to the US

Sorry, mate. I think you guys cucked yourselves.
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Is this really the kind of straw the EU cucks are grasping at

>Lol she just said you can't negotiate until article 50 BTFO

wow
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>>79080309
And when you woke up from your dream... what happened?
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>>79080534
well durr, fan of democracy much?
we are, we brexit'd
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>>79080938
>nationalization of foreign assets
Yeah I'm sure they'll want to become the european alternative to Venezuela
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Yeah, well when Germany is faced with having to support the Countries that do not contribute to the EU by themselves... Well I'm sure they won't be happy with it.
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>>79081020
To be honest, you did UK-san.
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>>79080181
Good because then I would have to not read any of your posts twice. You irrelevant fucking nothing.
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>>79081203
Growing economically and influence until one day they decide to turn on their business people for political reasons, causing everyone to leave?
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>>79080931
It did! But remember: Our Free Trade agreements are based on comparative advantage, and the UK has no advantage, and thus no leverage, for trade with the US...without the EU's backing. ...Because our free trade agreement isn't WITH the UK. Its with the EU.
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>>79080813
I don't understand why there's such a fixation on surpluses and deficits for trading. The important of a trading partner should be how much more trade takes place now than if it didn't. I.e.

Surplus value for current trading - surplus value for opportunity costs of trades
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>>79081135
If you don't see why the Center-left party pulling market liberalisations and cutting benefits leads to them losing votes than I can't help you.

Germany at that point was the sick man europe
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>>79081180
Merkel shut up like Obama eventually had to do.
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>>79080482
The EU is a single market, just like the US is a single market. You, as a US citizen, are allowed to freely move from state to state. The same is true for capital, goods and services. Ergo, California cannot impose tariffs on Texas and Texas cannot stop Californians from moving in.

In terms of trade, the EU is a single country.
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I'm starting to believe that Merkel is the only person in the EU that refuses to change.

I mean most of EU have made compromises to please every member state. Say what you want but EU has shown to be flexible when people are starting to get pissed off. Merkel comes as arrogant and not capable to negotiate.
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>>79080866
Think to yourself and wonder whether you could push anything through the EU that would alienate Germany too much.
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>>79081342
We can trade with whoever we want. Draft up another fta.
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>>79080938
Only Russia and the USA can do that without serious consequences, nobody else, not China, not Japan, not Germany and certaintly not the UK.
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>>79081180
I thanked god I wasn't born in Bulgaria
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>>79070454
i love you son
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>>79080866
german has no army due to ww2 there not allowed one, so all of that extra money had to go some where, they have investerd the most into the EU, and germany is the most powerful country in the EU, (britain isnt a single country)
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>>79081630
Lmao 10/10
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>>79081307
Hahaha, you mad you can't argue my points? Cause you mad.

>>79081556
You only realized this now? Not before, when Merkel went "well, mistakes were made, but I still think this horrible crisis I caused will benefit us in the future"?

>>79081622
Why? We actually pulled off a similar thing and got the Canal out of it.
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>>79081466
>I don't understand why there's such a fixation on surpluses and deficits for trading.
Because the money you pump into other countries' economy must come from somewhere
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>>79079785

Wouldn't happen. If the EU recognise an independent Scotland, then Spain will fear that they would recognise an independent Catalonia or Basque. Even Belgium would probably block Scotland.
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>>79081630
Good for you. Fortunately for me, I'm richer than you ;)
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>>79081556
I wonder how long she's got before she lives on the street.
At the very least, she doesn't have to worry about being raped by her multicultural buddies. Although I wouldn't get it past those animals.
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>>79081707
How are they powerful if they have no military force. Aren't the German cucks paying for Israel's military still? Lmao
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>>79070064
when will merkel fucking die
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>>79081556
Merkel's tactic is and always was sitting out a crisis without acting
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Bets on the uncuck?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10613133/r
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>>79081580
Keep telling yourself just that.
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>>79070064
>Lose Scotland
>Lose NI
>Wales already pushing for independence
>Lose Gibraltar to the Spaniards
>Value of pound still falling
>Lose to Iceland in football

Is this the worst week to be British?
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>>79070064
One of the rare threads in which I can proudly admit that I voted her twice and am planning on #3 next year.
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>>79080907
america may choose to charge us more, supply and demand
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>>79081474
Sure I see that. But that isn't the point.

Look at this picture here. This is a picture of a table full of German men. Any single one of these men would make a better leader than Merkel.

I know nothing about these men. I've never met these men. They might even be planning a gay orgy after their beverages, even then they would still make better leaders than merkel.
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>>79081972
It's always shit to be British if you're an ugly cuck like you bro.
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>>79081738
Spain and Belgium are afraid of unilateral referendums and calls for independence. If Parliament allows a referendum and Scotland becomes independent, Spain and Belgium will have no problems with that.
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>>79081793
I am sure your uncle at nintento is very proud.

>>79081885
To be fair, thanks to the way the fiscal layout has been made, Germany is the heart of the EU. It exists because Germany continues to support its existance. Remove Germany, and the EU outright collapses rather than teeter in chaos like with Britain.
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>>79082051
I would actually trust them more if they WERE planning a gay orgy, those require a lot of organization.
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>>79081500
As people have pointed out the past, the decision to have freedom of movement for non-workers in the EU was due to more of a political motive than an economic one. There's also a reason why virtually nobody protests the freedom of movement among people in the United States, while this freedom and the inability for member states to control their borders absolutely and with autonomy has been contested ever since the Treaty of Maastricht.

>In terms of trade, the EU is a single country.

Except the fact that not all countries are in the Eurozone, so it would like economically united country with a multiple currencies. Sorry, but it's a shit analogy.

Doesn't it feel nice to actually make constructive posts, or as a Canadian, every fiber of your being is protesting as being forced to act against your nature, compelled against your nationalistic inclination to shitpost?
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>>79081500
I don't know if countless tariffs, regulations and quotas make it comparable to America.
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>>79070064
>tfw Merkel goes full Jihad on UK
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>>79082068
Coming from you, you 300 pound beast.
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>>79082106
>Panama
>meme nation

Why did you even open your mouth? Your country is literally poorer than Bulgaria, so you can't even brag about that like the Britbong can.
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>>79081621
Yes, but again, why would we WANT to trade with the UK if they have nothing to offer us?
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>>79070064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daxHBre2a5A
based merkel

always had a hard life and shes reshaping the world for better
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>>79082331
OK butter teeth
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>>79082224
I think you are going to hard on him. For the purposes of the economic world, the EU fronts like a single country, which is why the European financial crisis even happened.

>>79082368
Because for all the issues of my country, at least I wasn't born in the inflated shithole that is Bulgaria.
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>>79082106
Fine but
>>79080530
How does the EU defends itself in this scenario?
Maybe we make an alliance to defend them from sandniggers.
Maybe we wait for them to be all sandniggers and take the land.
Maybe Russia takes care about it.
It's not even that far fetched given how Euro-sceptic people are over here.
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>>79081732
But it will eventually return, as the commodities decrease in value and thus become cheaper to be exported. If there were a ban on sending money outside of a country, but no ban on accepting it, price would eventually increase to a point on the protectionist country that all outside trade would stop. Trade deficits ultimately have no significant impact on the economy, neither in the short or long-term, because they always resolve themselves.
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>>79070064
>They won't actually have any representation at all
They aren't part of the EU anymore, why the fuck they have any representation and why the fuck would they want any?
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>>79081972
The British history is known for getting their shit kicked at their worst. They ALWAYS manage to come out of it positive and win.

Every war on Europe, The Brits were the "losing team". Yet they manage to win.

It may look like that It's end for the British but they will rise and show everyone who is the greatest empire that ever lived.
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>>79082051
It's pretty clear that you don't understand how the CDU works.
They simply don't change leaders because the vast majority of voters value consistency over anything else.
Not to mention that Merkel is rather good at keeping possible alternatives down.

Just as an example even if Merkel doesn't run/get elected next year there'll be 42 years between 3 CDU chancellors,
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>>79082440
That's all going to change now that the British can be an empire again.
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>>79081707
>german has no army

That's not true at all.
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>>79082657
fortitude m8
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>>79082224
It terms of trade, the EU, being its member states, and states t hat pay to access the EU's single market, are a single country. That's why Norway, for instance, can trade with EU member states. They pay for it, and it gives them access to everyone in the EU, and everyone who TRADES with the EU, without having to go through the costly process of drafting, negotiating, and pushing through, trade agreements with individual countries, as would otherwise be the case.

The EU member states and the ones that pay into that market are collectively known as the Eurozone for the purposes of economics.
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>>79075917
>No, it means the UK would go into a trade war with the EU which it would ultimately win
45% of all UK exports go to the EU
16% of all EU exports go to the UK

The EU will have WAY more leverage in the negotiations. Prepare your anus britbong, you are going to get as cucked as Norway.
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Merkel reminds me somehow of big mum but I cant point the finger at it
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>>79082576
>For the purposes of the economic world, the EU fronts like a single country,

Even practically, if that were truly the case, there would have been a much more even distribution of the economic hardship in the financial crisis.
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>>79080181
You make the wrongful assumption that the EU is Britain's only opponent. Protip: The nose arose.
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>>79082635
Nigel was today in the EU parlament talking shit and some faggot asked him the same.
>What are you doing here?
>You have to go back to your island
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>>79081722
Nah I don't care about your points enough to read them. Pretty big difference there you third world retard.

>>79082186
Sounds like you've had a lot of unorganized gay sex. This is why Trump has to built that wall. Gay rape gangs are so common that it is considered organised crime in Places like Panama and other parts of Mexico.
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>>79082605
Beg your pardon?

Are you asking what does the EU do if France decides to leave? Well, not much, all they could do is shake their fists in the air because of what you have mentioned. France is basically Europes only real army left and it's leaps and bounds more powerful than Germany in that sense. Germany could still try to use economic warfare, but I am sure the UK would be very interested in helping France out.

I do still stay with the argument the departure of France won't kill the EU, but not denying your point, the EU becomes a paper tiger without it.
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>>79081500
>In terms of trade, the EU is a single country.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM
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>>79081793
>This is what passes for a comeback in Bulgaria
let me guess next you'll resort to telling me your dad can beat up my dad right?
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>>79082576
Wat? Your country is poorer, it literally has no culture or history to speak of and it's not even European. The only thing that's known about it is the Panama canal which wasn't even build by you.

Literal cucks
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>>79081972
Scotland and NI won't leave, they won't get accepted into the eu. They would be even worse shanty towns
UK markets are doing better than EU markets.

They'll be fine.
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>>79081722
What? What the fuck. Panama? What.
Get the fuck out, shitstain on humanity.
There should be a rule on /pol/ that countries with less than 300 years of history should not be able to post, only the US.
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>>79082224
The majority of the EU uses the Euro, but you're right about the currency issue.

Other than that, yes the EU is a single market, just like the US.
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>>79070064
/pol/ knew this. The UK is absolutely screwed as whoever activates Article 50 breakups the UK (Scotland and Northern Ireland likely to go) but not activating will go against the democratic right and will of the people causing protests and riots. Also, removing free movement gets rid of free trade meaning economic shithole. Not even mentioning non-EU immigrants.

As I said though, /pol/ knew this and voted leave for happenings.
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>>79081823
a standing back is stronger than a marching army.

There industral might is stronger, (more car plants ect)
shit even france are building warships for russia
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>>79083032
What's your job?
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>>79081634

Love you too dad. MAGA/MBGA
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>>79082731
>the vast majority of voters value consistency over anything else.
So the problem is Germans are autistic?

I think I've figured it out now. Germany is a nation of aspies.
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>>79077586
>peace and prosperity
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>>79083181
NI could reunite with Ireland circumventing having to apply to the EU
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>>79083209
Only thing missing is a fiscal union and adoption of the Euro in order to complete economic integration.
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>>79083348
Well it worked better than post-WW1
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>>79083252
The only influence Germany has is on the EU nations that still eat up their shit.
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>>79078978
Jewry afoot.
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>>79070064
>EU Family

end me
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>>79083403
Fiscal union won't happen with Germany
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>>79082906

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11700443/The-EUs-dwindling-importance-to-UK-trade-in-three-charts.html
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>>79083360
United Ireland sounds to me like peace between Israel and Hamas.
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>>79083426
Until today, but the eternal anglo is at it again.
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>>79082797
yeah, i know, its more of a guard tho
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>>79083032
Yeah, he can, but what about it.
If Bulgaria was such as shithole why are brits flooding our resorts every summer and why are so many brits buying property here and coming to live here, why not go to a poorer country from your "commonwealth" like pakistan or something like that?
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>>79077586
>peace and prosperity

EU is about power. Absolute Power. With no Plan B. Without Plan B. You don't have a choice other than implode or wage war.
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>>79082865
>t hat pay to access the EU's single market, are a single country.

Which should not be necessary. The costs of Mexico and Canada to access the US market are absolutely negligible and those countries sovereignty aren't the least bit hampered, only that, according to the agreement, they can't stifle free trade.

>without having to go through the costly process of drafting, negotiating, and pushing through, trade agreements with individual countries, as would otherwise be the case.

That's an utterly awful argument for creating the EU. The barriers to free trade in terms of agreements are wholly negligible compared to what countries have to give up in order to join the EU. Seriously, what is wrong with the NAFTA model, or AFTA? Anything is better than the EU.

This form of argumentation is just not only short-sighted, but dishonest. Ever since the Treaty of Maastricht Treaty, the EU has clearly been more political than economic, and its strongest defenders not only admit that, but use it as their primary justification.
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>>79083021
The real question, in this scenario, is what the US would do about it.
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>>79083360
Even if that somehow happened which a united Ireland would never. EU officials already said that would be basically impossible because Ireland is already in The EU
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>>79083426
European nations would not need the EU to keep the peace if all the Germans would just have been exterminated after WW2. You are the cancer and worse than kikes.
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>>79070064
>Nor informal

Sorry hag, informal talks are already underway, and not under Der Fuhrer's jurisdiction.
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>>79083248
The general election later this year should be fun, Labour have already done their level best to become unelectable, I can only assume the Tories will run adverts with Boris drowning puppies to try and avoid dealing with Brexit.
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>>79082906
Funny how the EU markets have been hit much harder than the UK markets over the vote.
Funny how the UK markets have all started to recover and the EU markets are still in decline.
Funny how our banks are getting by and the EU banks are on the verge of needing bailed out.

:^)
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>>79083490
Eurozone cannot survive without it. And Germany is the strongest supporter of the Euro.

Germany is having its cake and eating it too at the expense of southern Europe.
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>>79083328
Can we just take over the fucking world already?

I mean what are we waiting for? Oh yeah Trump. I can't wait till that golden man is our leader.
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>>79082957
Not really, because trade has nothing to do with fiscal policy. Venezuela represents a nice case study of a country whose trade was excellent but their fiscal policy was shit, rendering any benefits of the trade go to hell. As different segments of the EU have different fiscal policies, the damage varied directly with how shit their fiscal policy was.

>>79082965
Hhmm... would revealing I am a jew make the statement the UK has little to fear from Jewry in my opinion be more or less valid?

>>79083004
Sure thing, mate. Hope you keep being mad.

>>79083042
>>79083197
And yet I still love not being born in the shithole that is Bulgaria.

>>79077586
And it still can do that. Just remove the commission, and make the power to make laws exist only in countries. Here is a crazy idea:

Steps for new EU laws:
1.) A local legislative Branch makes a bill and votes to send to the EU.
2.) The EU parliament representative see if other countries have similar proposals and coordinate them to make them have a wider support in the EUP. Add ammendments and perhaps local considerations.
3.) Make the EUP vote for the law.
4.) If accepted, it has now become EU law.

Done, no need for massive number of idiots who weren't elected fuck everything up.

>>79083624
If France left? Probably support any UK plans to ensure it's economical stability.
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>>79083025
That "problem" is the only thing that enables Britian to avoid destitution.

Remind me again, how was the British economy before the UK joined the EEC? Oh I remember, it was a miserable pile of grief, shortage, and gazing in jealousy at those darn Germans pulling off an economic miracle not even two decades after losing the most destructive war in recorded history.
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>>79083695
Shut up, hat
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>>79083518

That's because you don't know anything about anything. The only reason we don't want NI back is because it's an economical black hole.
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>>79083734
>And Germany is the strongest supporter of the Euro.
I have never read anything this delusional
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>>79083707
>general election later this year
There isn't going to be a general election. We have the fixed terms act.
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>>79083284
Don't have/need one at the moment. Was in charge of my families property rental agency but we just sold the lot off to a developer and I haven't decided what I want to do with my share
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>>79083759
>after losing the most destructive war in recorded history.
I'd argue that the 30year war was more destructive.
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>>79083209
>Other than that, yes the EU is a single market, just like the US.

I don't see why even suggest the US. A better comparison would be NAFTA or AFTA. To suggest the US indicated more than anything else what a failure the EU has been in establishing political unity. If we compare it to other trade agreements, it becomes clear how unnecessary onerous the requirements of being in this single-market by comparison.
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>>79083743
I personally hate you all, but a Commonwealth, or at least anglo union would be an interesting thing to watch.

>>79083826
Really? Germany's government seems pretty adamant about keeping the Euro in place no matter what, considering it insisted Greece couldn't leave the Euro.
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>>79071762
Can't see the Scots being allowed to leave - then Catalonia will also demand independence and EU membership (God knows why tho)
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Can someone explain to me why Finnish hate the UK so much? I get the Bulgaria/Poland hate but these past couple of days Finnigger salt has been out of control.
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>>79083960
Didn't like half the population died in that war?
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Lol, we'll keave the EU
>That's too bad, we really like you Brits
Fuck your stupid rules. We are out
>Well, okay I guess?
Waaaaaaa, Germany bullied us and kicked us out
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>>79083754
>Just remove the commission
That requires scrapping the current treaties and rewriting them all up which would require a referendum in most of the EU nations, not something the EU is going to risk.
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>>79083760
please hang yourself tumor.

t. Your hat
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>>79084018
are you hearing voices?
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>>79084122
Go produce something besides pigs
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>>79083862
yeah, it will be like the housing crash, someone will step in, if no one steps in, power defaults to the monarch, god save the queen
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>>79083403
>Only thing missing is a fiscal union and adoption of the Euro in order to complete economic integration.

Your making my case for me. Every UK citizen should drop to their knees in thankfulness of the fact that they didn't enter the Eurozone and virtually everybody sees that the UK dodged a bullet by not joining, even its strongest advocates. Unfortunately, the UK should have taken a further step and left the EU was it was clearly more the political union than economic union.
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>>79083695
>if all the Germans would just have been exterminated after WW2

Congrats on creating Soviet Europe. I guess being slaves to Russians adhering to a satanic ideology would be so worth not having to deal with those goddamned krauts and their stupid structured business schemes.
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>>79083826
If Germany did not support the Euro it wouldn't exist anymore. They bailed out Greece after all.

The Euro allows Germany to have a weak currency, helping it's export economy.

That's how I thought it was anyway. Could you elaborate?
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>>79084141
>are you hearing voices?
Yeh but its not a mental issue its just coming from his spare room where he's housing a family of "Syrian" refugees
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>>79083862
Parliament can still be dissolved it just needs for the government to lose a confidence vote or for two thirds of the house. It's doable and honestly fairly likely to happen in my opinion.
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>>79083968
Of course you do you dirty mexican. You subhuman brown monkey people all hate us. Doesn't stop you coming into to our countries and leaching off us and then claiming you're oppressed victims for it.

Dirty niggers.
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>>79083743
If our leaf brother would stop being such a faggot I'm positive the anglosphere would dominate the world.

Well, actually we kind of do already, but I mean openly so.
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>>79084185
What are you talking about? There's just going to be a new government formed. This doesn't require a general election..
Governments are formed from the elected representatives, you don't vote for a government.
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>>79083754
>And yet I still love not being born in the shithole that is Bulgaria.
Shithole or not, we're better than you, even if we were as poor as you, your only option for immigration is to be an illegal in the USA and if Trump becomes president there will be none. Your neighbours are Mexico, Brazil and other drug cartel crime infested shitholes.
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>>79084018

\:¬ j

I feel that this does not adequately reflect the current ongoing situation
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>>79083960
Not even close, even in the crusades only died like 500000.
Modern war killing rate > medieval one
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>>79075427
I'm quite glad the bankers are about to suffer.
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>>79083968
we have a common wealth
spoilers.
its called the common wealth
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>>79084226
>If Germany did not support the Euro it wouldn't exist anymore.

That's an overstatement if I ever saw any.
We wouldn't be an economic behemoth to be sure, but not existing? You're reaching.
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>>79083754
>Not really, because trade has nothing to do with fiscal policy.

You missed my point, which was that if Europe was more economically united, the effects of the financial crisis would have been more evenly borne, like it was in the United States, and the UK itself.

Also, that's just a hyperbole. If fiscal policy is sufficiently disastrous, it could cause a recession, hurting the country's ability to trade because of lack of liquidity and production capacity.
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>>79084311
Yeah I have doubts about Canada too. I fear he is just too french and therefor a total faggot.

But still we must work towards the great anglosphere union in our lifetimes.
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>>79084170
why? it seems to be working you poor pleb.

go produce something else than cucksheds and rising rape statistics.
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>>79083197
>>79083754

kind of mean when you consider that Panama has done loads for the world by giving the US a nice place for its Canal. Bulgaria just got cucked by the turk so hard he liked it.
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>>79075732
>We are not European. We are British.
british people are european you fuckwad
that's like saýing "we are not asian, we are japanese hurrdurr"
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>>79075439
>Being this deluded to believe the UK economy will be allowed to collapse
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>>79081500
>Texas cannot stop Californians from moving in
This is a mistake.
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Can't we all agree that the UK has nuke.
Therefore you, rest of the EU, should just suck their cock?
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>>79084641
There are nips who'd say that.

Not saying they're not idiots, just saying. Looking at these two, I can't help but assume island folk tends to end up weird.
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>>79084675

Gas Dems! Civil War 2 Now!
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>>79084641

>German with no sense of national identity

How cliché
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>>79083615
Because, again, it's based on comparative advantage. Canada and Mexico were important for the US, because one side had lots of oil and plastics derivatives and beef, while the other side had pork, mineables, and real estate for factories. The UK does not have that.
The US did it because it was the leading power.
The US dictated the terms, and it was better for the US than Canada OR Mexico...but still good for them both.

The UK is NOT the leading power in the negotiation with the EU. The EU doesn't e ven have to bother. The UK is not the leading power in the negotiation with the US, and with Labour-Party Thatcher heading the US, the UK ain't gonna get anywhere on their exports of baby royals, Bake-Off, and shitty versions of Top Gear and Doctor Who.
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>>79084296

Not as likely as you'd think.
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>>79077586
Underrated post.
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>>79082865
All these arguments for the EU are thirty years outdated, which was when the EU was primarily an economic union and not a political one, which was why conservatives in the UK were for it while leftists were against it, (with noticeable exceptions like Enoch Powell who saw that it would become a political union). Once it became clear in the 90s that the EU was become a political union, leftists switched en masses their allegiance and conservatives were a bit slow in realizing what a monster the EU had become, if only because it had stealthily become the status quo for the Europe to become more and more federalist.
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>>79084535
Hey Demark, ever considered fucking off from the EU and those other Scandinavian cucks and joining the Anglosphere?
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>>79084853
Demonstrably false. Every EU market has been hit harder by the UK leaving than the UK's have, that hardly gives them a position of strength.
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>>79083583
because you have vaguely decent weather and your standard of living is so shit everything is cheap as fuck?
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>>79084469
I was trying to say that the Euro wouldn't exist if Germany did not want it to exist. Not the other way around lol
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>>79085097
Time will tell. I just know that A nice little cottage in London will run me almost 30 thousand dollars less than it would've before. So, I man, job well done, Farage. Can't Barrage the Farage, right?

>What do you mean Brits can't afford their own homes?
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>>79084834
What a weak retort. He's implying that Brits are both British and European. Britain is factually a part of the European continent, island or not. So even if a Brit only cared for their "national identity" as you call it and never gave a rat's ass about where or what Europe even is, they still couldn't escape being Europeans. If they don't want to be Europeans, they'll have to stop being Brits.
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>>79083772

Wouldn't be able to take it anyway

The loyalist boyos would spread havoc.
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>>79084349
oh yeah, so your telling me you voted for gordon brown? or david cameron (will its a collistion so you may have done.) The Queen can disband goverment forcing a genral election, its the same powers a commander genreal has in any soveriegn country
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>>79084535
>>79085150

My favorite part about visiting Denmark is how all the minimum wage employees speak english. We don't even have that here. Honorary anglos?
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>>79085164
Stocks are not hard assets like trade agreements tend to be. The entire world was hit harder than the UK was on the referendum vote -- people are divesting from UK-based companies by selling them short, leading to losses in global markets.
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>>79079785
I'm sure the Scots are just dying to be an independent nation in the EU...
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>>79085210
Nah, I shamefully admit, the idea is from my land.
Valéry Giscard d'Estaing (wtf name), president of France from 74 to 81 raised the idea of a European money called the 'ECU'.
Of course, at the time, Europe was just 12, civilized countries.
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>>79084853
Personally, I'm not concerned whether the UK is in a position to leave or not, because if it isn't, that shows how regressive the EU is and that it should disband as soon as possible.

Those who keep attacking the UK's prospects in leaving should acknowledge that they are confirming how spiteful the EU can be and what pernicious level of power it has to punish any country that decides to reclaim its sovereignty.

The EU right now is a cult with enough power to seriously harm any member that decides to take back its independence and self-determination. The ways it can punish the leaving member aren't primarily arguments for the member staying, but arguments against the cult's existence.

When I mentioned NAFTA and AFTA, I was giving examples of successful trade agreements that are hardly political and don't lead to subjugating the sovereignty of the member states.
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>>79084583
Pretty mean when you consider we have 3 NATO bases and helped you fags with your world domination, fucking loser.
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>>79085305

It's about self-definition, Klaus. 'We're not European, we're British'. It's not a refusal of fact A, it's an emphasis of fact B.
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>>79079680
No worries. Lift still works in this case
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>>79084943
Any benefit from Brexit is long term with at best things not getting too bad in the mean time, plus whoever handles the negotiations will have to deal with the complaints we didn't get everything we asked for, its a combination the general public will hate.
No way any government starts it without an election first.
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>>79085164
>Every EU market has been hit harder by the UK leaving than the UK's have

How so? A softer Euro always means a boost for all exporting and tourist industries within the Eurozone. A softer GBP is fatal to British businesses, however.
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>>79085173
A lot of countries in the commonwealth are like that.
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>>79085691

You were also Communist.
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>>79085765
Thanks, I was worried it meant 'remove' in that context.
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>>79085759
>We're not European
>It's not a refusal of fact A
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>>79085305
we are MEMBERS of the EU. the EU's goal is to forget nationalty, i would like to know how countrys such russia or america handles rogue states
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>>79070318
fucking hell now I can't help but hear his speech in his voice

>YOU MAY TAKE ME WITH YOU BUT THE GIRL WILL COME AS WELL
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>>79085150
Sure. In about 10 years time ill have a Australian Queen anyways. Might as well join the beady Anglosphere club.

>>79085448
well its because Denmark is an old trade nation. So people here are taught trading languages from an early age. Most people speak 3-4 languages (even the homeless Dane in the gutter).
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>>79070318
>We cannot be caged
>We cannot be controlled.
Don't kid yourself you delusional faggot, you're still a slave, just a poor slave with no friends
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>>79085367
There's a difference between having a general election and a new government.

>>79085499
Not just stocks.

>trade agreements
The UK has already had plenty of offers and it's been less than a week.

>>79085874
I'm not just talking about currency.

>A softer GBP is fatal to British businesses
Except it isn't.
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>>79081972

>>Wales already pushing for independence

Hahahahaha, no.
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>>79085952
>germans struggle to understand national identity
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>>79085304
So you aren't going to even attempt to defend the pernicious way the EU blackmails through the offer of free trade member states against either leaving or not joining? Virtually every benefit you mentioned could be accomplished with trade agreements that other countries have.
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>>79085632
That was in the 70s. In the Euro crisis in 2011-2013 it was Germany who was the strongest supporter of the Euro. France is also weaker today relative to Germany.
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>>79085973
You're not in the EU.
How's that working out?
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>>79085448
Well considering the history of denmark and england pretty much all anglos have danish blood anyway. They are practically the same people.

Plus little Prince Christian, heir to the danish thrown is half Australian.

They're barely even on mainland europe too. Just have to secure that southern border to stop the muslims coming in from germany and the western border to stop the muslims coming in from sweden and they're good.

They're basically the closest thing you can find to anglo outside the anglosphere.

Denmark should cut their ties with the rest of europe and join us instead.
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>>79086085
National identity is a spook
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>>79075446
Well, Farage is delusional. Britian wants access to the single market? they will have to accept all that comes with it. If Britain doesnt want access then that's fine but to suggest that that will hurt the EU more than the UK is fucking delusional. EU will still be the biggest market in the world.
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>>79070064
We don't give a fuck what some Kraut says.
We're arrogant and simply don't give a shit what other countries think of us.
Hatred feeds us; it gives us strength.

We are going to have free trade with our Anglobros.
USA, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.
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