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>It’s happened again: Americans are leaving millions of unused vacation days on the table—658 million of them to be exact. According to a new study by Project: Time Off, the average U.S. worker took only 16.2 days of paid time off in 2015 and 55% of the 5,600 people surveyed didn’t use all of their vacation time.
>The new survey reveals that more people are taking less time off. From 1976 to 2000, the average number of days workers took off was 20, almost four more than last year. And 2014’s study showed only 42% of Americans had unused days, making this year the first time since the survey began that a majority of workers aren’t using all their paid time off.
>All of this equates to about $61.4 billion in lost benefits for workers, and some $223 billion in lost travel-related spending in the United States.
http://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/travel-trends/americans-unused-vacation-days
Wageslaving isn't just a meme feels bad.
>>79022765
>take vacation
>get secretly reprimanded
"Why would you want to spend time not at work anon? Don't you love working for us?"
>>79022765
We don't fuckign squander them. We save them up for long fucking vacations.
>>79022961
I can only see that happening in major financial institutions in the UK. Otherwise we think you're retarded fornot using it all.
>>79022961
Only that never happens you fucking faggot.
Americans don't take vacation days because they have nothing else to do. Why vacation (and deal with the phone calls, the headache, the gf moaning, the exorbitant cost) when I can just wake up, grab coffee, and enjoy work?
>>79023002
Not necessarily true.
There's some people who have like 3 months of vacation time that mostly goes unused because it's a risk on their job security if they use too much. It's weird and retarded but that's how my dad says it is in the software security world
>>All of this equates to about $61.4 billion in lost benefits for workers
How did they come up with this conclusion? Those benefits don't magically disappear. Vacation days accumulate, although some employers do have caps. If I only use 15 days for one year that just means I have even more next year.
>>79022765
There's two sides to this. One side is the fact that technology is abundant, and you can pretty much see anything anywhere in the world, and you can watch movies whenever etc.
Or the 2nd side
>economy is going to shit
>standard of living is rising
>wages aren't climbing
>people are trying to get all the money they can without having a day off.
>>79023229
>wagecucking
>having a GF
:^)
>>79023316
>Vacation days accumulate
For some jobs you only have a set number of days that you can either use or lose by the next year.
>>79022765
many employers cut you a check at the end of the year for your unused vacation time.
MANY OF THEM.
i wonder if they took this into account.
I take 1-2 sick days a year if that.
Lel
Here around 3-4 weeks off for summer is the usual for workers.
Then there's week long holiday in autumn.
Bit over a week for Xmas+New Year
"Skiing holiday" in late winter.
Not to mention easter + plus few other holidays.
Muricans and Japs are perfect little worker drones.
>>79023592
You get slave wages for those hours though
I only get 3 days of vacation a year. Used 2 last year.
>>79023991
What's the purpose to live your life this way?
>>79022765
>be me
>work as an archaeologist
>travel as part of my job
>every single day is enjoyable, look forward to discovering things
>majority of my time is vacation - conversing with locals, eating new foods, hitting up foreign bars, fucking chicks, and learning new languages
>still get paid a six figure salary
>I only had to wageslave for a year to pay off what little loans I had from uni
Feels good, man.
>>79023229
>Exorbitant cost
m8 you're paid vacation time. Anything else is just time off.
my last job offered 2 weeks vacation after 2 years and 3 weeks vacation after 10 years
>>79023509
Wha..
Does being NEET only work if you have rich parents?
I honestly like working.
I can't stand nature and I can't stand most places on the planet.
No idea what I would even do on vacation.
>>79024368
My job is pretty easy and not stressful. Besides my job I don't do anything but talk to the wife and stay home for now.
>>79022765
We can take vacation days, they just aren't paid usually.
Hell, we get weekends off too usually.
I work service industry and took a month off to go to Aus. Sure, I had to scrap the cash together before and after but my job was still there.
>>79024741
Get a job, get a wife, get a house. So is that The American Dream everybody's talking about? Sounds pretty boring to me.
I would honestly rather have paid sick days than vacation time.
>>79022765
> get paid vacation
> work instead
How does your bosses assholes taste like ?
>>79025037
living in a shithole seems pretty boring too but there you are
>>79024385
>archaeologist
>pretending to have a job
I'm Australian and any unused leave accumulates which if not taken is paid out on retirement/dismissal. I've got like $15,000 of leave saved up. My employed hasn't forced me to use any for like 3 years for whatever reason so I'm probably just gonna keep not using it until I decide to quit or move on to something different.
>>79025328
You've never been here but still talking shit about it. Stay mad, wagecuck.
>>79025557
Ask your HR to cash it out now in case they try to pull some shady stuff when you quit or get fired. It will do a lot better in some sort of index or retirement fund
>>79023969
This. In our country people consider you a literal retard for not using your vacation time.
>but anon, don't you want to go on wintersport this year like the rest of us?
>but anon, why no beautiful Thailand this year?
>where is your tan, anon?
But everyone knows burgers get fucked in the ass by their employers and call the privilege freedom. Fuck the globalist scum trying to bring those working conditions here.
>>79024654
>I can't stand nature and I can't stand most places on the planet.
Have you ever been to "most places on the planet"? I mean shit, this is actually sad..
>>79025839
Belarus looks like a more depressing version of New Jersey.
>>79025557
I had something similar happen. I worked for about 3 years at a casino and due to the flexibility of my work hours I never needed to take holidays. If I wanted time off, I would swap shifts around with my co-workers to get a week off. When I eventually quit, I got paid out 11k.
>>79023931
>go to Europe during half of the year for the last 2 years
>family is always giving me shit for doing nothing but "having fun"
You're a next level cuck here if you're not self employed. My mom has like 35 days of PAID vacation saved up from the last 10 years. She literally uses like 4 per year to take a random Friday off and go shopping. That's it.
>>79026169
>I honestly like working.
>I can't stand nature and I can't stand most places on the planet.
They call it "American work ethic". We call it slavery.
>>79025984
There's no shady shit they could pull to screw me out of it. Even in the even a business goes bankrupt you just have your previous employer show the ATO that outstanding payments would result in further hardship and the ATO will pay it. I'm sure there's some kind of penalty for the employer but I don't know or care if there is.
>>79026195
Still you've never been anywhere in the world. You can't compare a shit. Get a life, m8, seriously.
>>79024385
Daniel Jackson pls.
>>79026169
Been to most continents. Ex-girlfriends would make me travel with them. I never enjoyed it.
>>79026381
>American work ethic
Always nearly shit myself laughing when I hear that stupidity.
I once had a conversation with a Canadian who worked for a software company, he got like 2 weeks holiday per year. They worked him like a slave and he was proud of the privilege.
He honestly believed that if he didn't work like a slave his country wouldn't be competitive anymore. When I explained to him the proven benefits of sufficient holidays on productivity, and that Europe is perfectly competitive in a modern economy in spite of our terrible lax "work ethic" he didn't know what to say. Depressed him a little I think, but he's probably got Stockholm syndrome at this point.
Somehow it never occurs to people that simply hiring slightly more employees to work less hours each would actually make all employees more relaxed and productive. Instead, unpaid overtime to save a few hundred bucks a month by working your slaves beyond the window of productivity seems like a good idea.. Why?
>>79026046
>beautiful Thailand
I will never understand this meme. My mother's an immigrant from there so I've had to spend some time on and off there. It's shit, the city air stinks of it, and the rural areas there's shit on the sides of the road, too. But given that it's close to India I really shouldn't be surprised.
>>79025328
he is right u know
>>79023002
You're right, a lot of people do that. I work at the moment with a benefits management company that handles US worker fringe and voluntary contribution benefits. In most states, there is a law that allows 'use it or lose it' rules and also bans lawsuits for unused vacation days that are lost for going 'stale'. The same goes for your school/college savings accounts, your health savings and a variety of other little gimmicks (opt-in benefits and the like) you Amerikeks back home get.
I have a goal to retain and grow my portfolio's value add, which means every year skimming non-exempt employees' accounts and profiles for neglected benefits and stale balances, then returning to the company with a report. This year, my bounty is higher, about 2%, on top of my position' salary. If you are not mad yet, I also rubber stamp detected benefit policy violations or accusations of those. AND I disallow repayment of losses from neglect or error with vacation days (more common than it sounds).
I introduce processes, forms, steps and approvals into every stage of your benefits usage outside of ACA-covered items. Parental leave? We need an official, stamped, raised proof of birth and we asked you to inform us 6 weeks before projected birth, anon. I'll be calling you every week to see how the family is coming along and to gently prod you to come in for a few hours for a few meetings if you have the time.
The second you do, PL ends, which is policy at most companies that gets around PL. Yes, you will have several red flags in your file. If you are good at managing your benefits, the last thing you will offered is a raise or change in position to one with more. And over here, I have a room full of cheap accountants and phone handlers, all harvesting your benefits so I can be paid, and taking your angry calls for your company.
America is wonderful and grand. I am piling up Ameribucks from the scams you people sucker up for every year. Enjoy your benefits. I sure do.
>>79027242
Hot and humid as fuck too, why the fuck anyone would voluntarily go to thailand is beyond me.
>>79027040
>Why?
Seems like most of them are just brainwashed from their early childhood. Parents told them they'll be disgrace to their family or even homeless if they don't work their ass out. Seems quite logic to me considering the fact they have no possibility to experience another way of life.
I stopped taking vacation days once I realized all I do is sit at home and do nothing with them.
>>79028098
Thank you, anon. Depending on your salary, you may constitute a measurable increment in my income and my company's balances.
It's white people that aren't taking their vacation days.
I only use them during the summer so I can go on vacation with my kids.
I don't do winter sports or anything like that so I don't take vacations in the winter and I work a job that has great hours.
I would do the same on a day with or without vacation but on one side I get 8 hours more to watch shitty movies and sleep
>tfw American Worker
>Average 65-80 hours a week at $11.50 an hour before overtime (kicks in at 40 hour mark)
>Seriously demanding manual labor (construction, maintenance, handyman work, landscaping)
>I could be in high demand overseas due to my work ethic and near 100% attendance at work (few sick calls, few call ins) as well as varied skills
>tfw stuck in America with no financial escape
We may be wageslaves but for fucks sake we're good at being it.
>>79028341
Also for the Georgian poster
>>79028186
I work for my cities Parks & Rec department would that affect your business in any form
>>79027835
>>TFW when I realize that my whole lifestyle is build around harvesting your slack. I figuratively eat your benefits and then drink your salty tears. Then also receive a salary I just toss in my retirement account.
>>79028409
>65-80 hours a week
>average
I think it's more around 40 hours. You have a crap job, m8.
>>79026405
Either way its better invested than not accruing interest
>>79027242
You gotta know where to go, tbhqfamilia.
The same probably goes for India, I made the mistake of doing city travel when I visited.
Visit the European countryside if you want to go somewhere. Rent a car and drive through the south of France, you won't regret it.
In my studies of global politics, this isn't surprising
One of the key reasons for America's past economic dominance has been the American's work ethic, its astounding, and I only say past because of China's rise, and they are helped by having over double the population and they are still not clear economic hegemons
America's work ethic is one of the key features of its political landscape, its why we've never seen a strong socialism movement in the US and why we probably won't, America is a hyper-capitalist nation where the American dream is still there, even if its not.
>>79028409
>We may be wageslaves but for fucks sake we're good at being it.
Wow that's impressive. I mean, really.
>>79023526
I would like to coin a phrase I just came up in for this. " Use it or lose it vacation time"
>>79028500
No. It's 60-80.
I work from (8pm/9pm)-(7am-11am) five days a week.
Welcome to Texas.
>>79027835
Can you go into full detail on how your company works and functions? Is it dependant on international loopholes? What kind of degree do you have, and what's your company name? I'm legit curious for entrepreneur reasons.
my cousins work forces you to take vacation
>>79025230
Paid sick days get abused a lot by women.
>>79028703
Working hard =/= working smart, America is cucked by the ghost of its past. Work in modern times requires ever increasing amounts of creativity and flexibility, all things which are suppressed by the old system of factory-style hard labor.
I love working, idle hands are the devils workshop.
>>79028475
For US public employees, it depends on your contract (most have contracts). IN shitty places like San Diego, school employees (even the union ones) are really fucked, and the County, as well as the cIties of El Cajon, Imperial Beach, Del Mar, Carlsbad and some others I cannot think of, as well as Orange County in that state, are all getting the fat cock up the ass.
It's the same with Bakersfield and a whole bunch of inland places in that state. Public employee contracts can limit our reach, which is fine, but man... there seems to be a whole part of California that is governed to fuck you as hard as Texas fucks its employees. And TEXAS! It's the dream portfolio. They are the one place where the client actually pushes people to max their health and other savings accounts, then harvests the shit out of them ASAP. The girl who has that portfolio is a former trailer park urchin who graduated Baylor in Hospital Administration and Finance. We fuck sometimes.
I happen to work on what we call the "boomer tech" portfolio and PACA (Public Agencies, California). Most rec divisions have been juiced dry by the cities themselves, and many positions have no contract, no benefits, and no full-time employees or benefits. But kudos to you on getting a job making other peoples' slack more manageable..
>>79025230
In most companies it is the same thing, you get x number of "personal days".
i never got breaks at my last few jobs. we're legally supposed to have them, but it didn't matter to 3 different bosses. they just fire you. and hardly any vacation. what's this about a week?
>>79022765
I can save up to 800 hours of vacation without it being lost, no matter how long it's in my account. If I am fired, quit, retire, or die, they will pay it out in one lump sum.
I earn 2 hours per week. So no, the fact that I'm "not using" my vacation doesn't mean that it is lost.
>>79025037
It's not like I don't do anything at all. My wife is Italian and I was just there last year and stay there for a couple months. I still kept my job but was just put on leave for awhile. I have been in more places in the world than most people. I have traveled too much and right now just enjoy being home. I am moving to Europe soon. The U.S. is great job wise but as for where I want to be I think I belong in Europe. I personally loved it there. I was in Germany and Italy. Moving to Italy at the end of the year.
I noticed Europeans seem pretty lazy when it comes to work. Always closing early and always some bullshit holiday. I don't mind working but I understand hard work deserves time off and relaxation I just think people get too lazy when it is used too often.
>>79026169
I've been to South East Asia, didn't really like it.
Been to the Middle East, I fucking hated it so by default I think I'd hate Europe too.
Migt give the UK a couple years to uncuck itself before gloing there but honestly I could go to other states and still see something new.
I was in the military and I remember going crazy with boredom after 2 weeks of leave, why would the civilian world be different?
>>79028409
And to think we do it to ourselves.
>>79023002
My money is based on OT
Also, what am I going to do with a day off?
Post on 4chan?
don't you guys accrue vacation leave over years?
I've only taken a few days leave over the last year and I now have over 4 weeks saved up that I can use at any time. If I leave the job it gets paid out in full
I love how neetfags can't fathom the idea of somebody enjoying their job
>>79022765
americans live to work, europeans work to live
>>79030303
I have a shitty job and I'd do that rather than sit at home doing nothing
>>79028874
There are no international loopholes at play. We are simply a firewall between loose management of benefits and recovery of potential lost productivity or capital. Often, in administrations where they are unwilling to collect taxes enough to cover bare costs of operations, they have us do both the granting of/approval of and the recovery of benefits and vacation use. That's usually kekked Red-California local governments.
When some cop loses his vacation days or some fireman loses his HSA balance, we are the ones that take the phone call. We are the convenient scapegoat. We are indemnified in almost every case and then can countersue against false claimants.
Our business model is 'thank you and fuck you very much'. The boomer tech companies are disgusting. These are basically tech companies that are so dominated by investors that the founders and the culture have been cubicleized and corporatized.
One week we harvest the anniversary benefit losses. The next week, the boomer HR manager calls and puts on a show about how pissed he is and how unfair it is for 'his people'. A few hours later, that old fuck calls and thanks us, and 'no, don't restore the vacation days, it's fine, anon.'
I have several degrees. In our organization, to be a portfolio manager, you must have at least a BA in a business, law or media field. The latter because they can dig up leads and prospects according to news reports and profile the potential decision makers for other PMs.
I have an MIM (Masters degree in Management) and double BA in International Relations (Trade and Treaty Law minor) and Public Relations.(Public Affairs emphasis). But my real job is taking the power of greedy people and using it for them so they can fuck your ass bloody. I have sometimes back-stabbed people who blamed us too much then tried to cancel contracts. I will fuck a life up and you will know you can do nothing about it. We all work on internal pseudonyms, just like the guys in Hyderabad.
>>79027040
>europe competitive
lol
Correction...
>American MEN squandered...
Real men do not take time off. Days off are for menstruation and the like. Also if you can take a week off at a time your job is superfluous.
Wow, americans are pretty fucked up. I would much rather live in a poor eastern european country or a cucked western one than in america.
>>79031084
Then you are in the right place.
I wish I had 658 million days off in a year 2bh
Freedom doesn't take days off.
>>79030846
>if you can take a week off at a time your job is superfluous
Yeah, tell that to my father who runs a multimillions worth company and who just took 2 weeks off. Git gud in productivity, m8.
i can't even remember the last time i went on vacation
>>79022765
Get with the program you lazy shiftless negro
American wage-cuck/-slave here.
Never in my working life over the last 18 years have I taken vacation during various jobs, a few I held for a year and two.
Because I'm a wageslave robot (Czech word for slave, ironically enough), I fear repercussion and/or reprimand such as refusal to promote me just because I ask to take a vacation, at busy retail stores and restaurants.
Even though they may praise me for being a hard-working employee that is an asset to their companies, since I happen to resemble the German-American (I'm a mutt but mostly look like a German), I am fearful that if I take vacation, I would feel bored and not know what to do with my free time for a week or even two if I accumulate vacation days for a second employment year without taking a vacation after a year.
It's true that there are American bosses who think drone bees, like me, do not need to take a vacation for a long time.
I have never heard of the state or federal labor law that suggest vacation time as the right or privilege. Vacation time is left up to each employer to determine the policy. The employers can flat-out deny vacation time to any employee below manager position, if that's to their preference to work the wage slaves to exhaustion that could lead to turnover.
Fear of reprimand for asking to take a vacation, even after a year of working hard and being consistent and having to kiss ass all the time, might be a standard in America.
There is such thing as "American work ethics," when really it means we are the goyim who must work hard and long to appease Israel and the corporate bosses, top to mid-level and assistant.
America is the ultimate goyim slave for corrupt federal, state, municipal and city governments, as well as appeasing Israel with billions of dollars in endless monetary support.
At least Germany, however cucked, mandates weeks of vacation time by law for the employed people, this making it the most efficient Western economic producer in the world.
you can't use anything you don't know your entitled to. this is store-level management of megacorp chains shitting on their minimum-wage slaves. there are a lot of clueless fuckwits at the bottom of the pyramid working 60-hour weeks and thinking they're lucky for the overtime pay, not giving any thought to other benefits because they've been told by 'the good boss' that they're trash anyway.
>>79022765
As someone who hates taking vacation days, let me tell you that having time off is boring as fuck if you have no money and a real drag when you come back to a place being in disrepair because you couldn't keep things together.
Albeit, I'm only 23, I spend money responsibly, and want to be able to keep some savings in case of emergency, so I'm probably not indictative of most people in this country who blow their paychecks at the bar and are scrounging for change by Wednesday every fucking week.
Plus I don't really hate my job. It's easy work for a decent amount above minimum. Took me 4 years to finally get to fulltime and a few good yearly raises, but it's really nowhere near as bad working in customer service as some people think when you work for the right company in a small town and actually strive to make your store a place that positively affects the hundreds of people that come in on your shift. It's a plus that I get to listen to music through my shift too. I'm pretty fucking lucky.
>>79023060
No it's literally illegal to not use your holiday, your work will literally force you to take holiday if you're under the legal minimum.
>>79024385
>Archaeologist
>six figure salary
>get a month off from work every year
>don't take it anyways since I love my job too much
>spend spare time learning more about how I can become better at doing my job when I'm not working anyways
What's the point?
>>79032021
This.
I'm 'given' 3 weeks of vacation, which in the US is very fortunate (came from a job that gave 2 DAYS/yr).
I lost a week of vacation last year just because I couldn't take the time off. I'm worked hard and my cunty colleagues won't pick up my slack.
My boss said I couldn't use my vacation. I may as well have 3 months of vacation in my contract.
>>79033970
>>don't take it anyways since I love my job too much
what is this meme I keep seeing about loving your wageslave job? If you're going to write this, write a few more words and say what it is that you do.
>>79023229
You know I was watching this vid on this page. https://www.newzealandnow.govt.nz/why-choose-nz/compare-new-zealand/USA this guy said everything is a lot more lax in NZ and they had to remind him to take time off, which is unusual.
I moved here from Germany but I think Americans have less interests and personality because they spend way more time working and less time having fun. That's what the welfare niggers have as their only advantage. All of their freetime enables them to be creating "art" and make shitposts on fb and twitter.
We need to empower our NEETs and win this battle.
>>79034135
I work as a overhead lineman. The adrenaline you get from doing it is second to none. And not to mention the good feels you get when you go on storm team when you have to help cucks who need electricity to survive. But I mean as a tradesman you have a obligation to fall in love with your trade and strive to become the best in it. I'm 23 and I'm a lead lineman which is unheard of in my utility. Hell I don't think I will ever retire from my work since I love doing what I do so much. I love being outside and I love the demands that are placed on me.
Oh and I already have enough money to buy a nice house and I have about 250k in retirement that I most likely won't use anyways.
>>79031084
I go to Miami for work reasons and I have met many Cubans who ended up moving back no joke because they found out you actually have to work a lot to have an apartment and all that.
>>79029168
Fuck me. This is a little bit too close to home
>>79030303
"Härtill är jag nödd och tvungen."
mvh
Brask, Biskop.
>>79029168
I have no idea wtf you're talking about. You say all these people are getting fucked but don't explain your reasoning whatsoever.
I have an unlimited vacation plan at my work... How is this calculated?
>>79022765
Between weekends, vacation, paid leave, calling in sick, etc., last year I had 200 days off work
>>79023257
this is true, the company I work for does it, you get to cash in the unused days. basically everyone takes 1 or 2 weeks then gets a check for unused days of between $6,000 and $14,000 on average. some people don't take any time off for a year and then get a check for $25,000. I am sure they will retire very, very nicely.
>>79022765
My coworker was forced by my boss to take vacation time for two weeks last month because he wasn't taking them.
I'm only an intern so I don't get vacation or anything yet, but I fear I'll be the same. I'll be too focused on working and having fun to think about vacation.
Vacation is boring as hell, I'm already tired of summer and it's barely even started.
>>79022765
My dad retired nearly 2 years early because of saved vacation days. Many companies won't let you save them up like that anymkre though.
>>79034016
Just use the remaining vacation time when you feel stressed out to come close to being burned out.
The caveat is that if one wants to enjoy the vacation in time off away from bullshit work, one must plan ahead with savings for a trip, like visiting Europe.
I suggest visiting Gibraltar if you have no idea where to travel to outside USA. Make it your worthwhile.
Know where to visit on vacation instead of being a bumfuck at home to waste time playing vidya (I observed a former roommate who was my co-worker waste a week being drugged on vidya).
http://www.visitgibraltar.gi/
My job has a deal where you can work for 3 years at 75% wage, then take a year off while still getting paid at 75% wage.
I'm tempted to take it, but I know I'd just spend the whole time shitposting on the Internet.
>>79037020
Don't do it unless you have something big planned. You'll loose you the drive to go back and work the same job. Happens to people who get injured and take time off often.
>>79023969
you guys are tarded.
if you have seven days of vacation time left your employer will often pay you a week's salary on top of your other pay for that period.
leave it to dutch kids to not know a fucking thing about work or being a man.
>>79036035
nah, now they cut you a check for that shit at the end of the year and never let it get beyond that.
>>79037020
Your job sounds awesome.
Not even shitposting, that's a pretty sweet deal.
My job gives me four weeks a year holidays, just started it so I'm accumulating hours until 2019 when I'm planning on going to Spain and walking the Camino De Santiago to cleanse me of all my sins for six-seven weeks followed by a week whoremongering in Amsterdam to rebuild my sin quotient.
I rarely take all my vacation because I get paid at the beginning of the year for any unused vacation days the previous year. We are all required to take at least 5 consecutive days off annually though for security reasons.
>>79038286
I used to work on a towboat and i got paid half a day's wages on my off days. 30 days of work and then 14 days off.
It was a balls to the walls job though.
>>79026046
Funny enough equal tier jobs in America provide more vacation time than those mandated by law in European nations.
>Waaah people choose to do things I don't like so they're slaves
How many days PTO do you all get? What's your position?
>7 sick days
>15 vacation days
>6 personal days
>Data analyst
I make about $50k in a city 20% below the cost of living, I have plenty of money left over to save and invest. Great first job.
>>79038364
It's like the euros don't understand this.
It isn't that we lick our bosses bootyholes, but we would rather work cut us a free check than stay at home (or go someplace exotic to spend money).
We just have a harder work ethic and approach to life. That is all.
>>79038537
what's your favorite programming language, and why is it R?
>>79022765
THEY GET 2 DAYS OFF EVERY SINGLE WEEK
I already get three days off a week, the fuck do I need a vacation for when I don't want it? I swear you Eurofags are some of the laziest pieces of shit I've ever seen
I do almost nothing at my job, I only have to work when a machine breaks down so I can collect tons of OT and triple time while I sit down at my station and browse my phone all day.
This autism reeks of "why don't you do what we do?"
>>79034135
Sorry that you live such sad existence that you haven't found a job you actually enjoy you it will never feel like you're working.
>not choosing to make more money.
are you not a capitalist? for most people work is less stressful than packing up their family and having to babysit the kids for a week or two in some hotel across the country.
also OP i think your source may be biased
>>79022765
Meanwhile, in Eastern Europe:
>take a vacation
>have to negotiate it 2 months in advance because of small team sizes
>instead of going to Rome or some sea resort, use my time to repair the balcony and the roof
>back to work
Vacation is keyword for house work here, at least as far as middle class people are concerned.
After every vacation I am happy to be going to work again, so I can rest at my desk instead of slave away repairing the house, villa, car, working the garden, etc.
>>79038285
Yeah it's like this now. I get a check for the total amount of my vacation time at the end of the vacation term so I get 5k Along with my profit sharing check which evens out to about 8k extra a year. It'd be 10k if not for the taxes, fucking government.
>>79028903
Holy shit this.
All the females in my office call in sick all the fucking time and all the males use their sick days for scheduled doctors appointments.
But I work a 4/10 schedule, kinda tedious during the week but it keeps me from spending money and three day weekends every weekend are nice. Probably have used over 80 hours of vacation already, and haven't touched any of my 140 hours of sick leave.
>>79023002
Mine don't roll over
But I work for my dad anyway, I am a vital part of the company and in my absence things go wrong.
I'm also pretty new to this position so I don't mind taking only 3 or 4 vacation days per year
>>79022765
>go work
>pay taxes so NEETs can receive their neetbucks
>neets complain about you working
>>79039698
it's a feel beyond explanation.
>>79022765
>Technological improvements should have resulted in more leisure time
>Instead everyone is so tired t the end of the day nobody even wants to cook
Modern life is sweet bruh.
t. neo officefag
>>79025037
>Get a job, get a wife, get a house.
>sounds boring
Congratulations! You're a degenerate helping to cause genocide tier white birth rates.
>>79024385
>be me
>work as an archaeologist
>travel as part of my job
>every single day is enjoyable, look forward to discovering things
>majority of my time is vacation - conversing with locals, eating new foods, hitting up foreign bars, fucking chicks, and learning new languages
>still get paid a six figure salary
I saw that movie too, but it was pretty dumb when you hid in a refrigerator to survive a nuclear blast
>>79038537
I get four weeks but that's based on the average hours I work per week(basically for every 13 hours I work I get one holiday hour because I'm part time).
I get some stupid amount of personal days I can just take and I think it's twelve days of medical pay(but they have a weird system where it's twelve "instances" of being sick so I can have one-two days and it's only counted as one but I can have four days that count as three, freaking confusing system).
>>79026951
Me neither. Travel is meme tier
>I'm too boring to find anything interesting to do myself with the millions of people and hundreds of square miles in my own city
>it will be so interesting when I randomly show up in a place I know even less where the locals don't know what I'm saying
>wait around in airports hope pilot is not names Mohammad
>everyone tries to rip you off
>shitty hotel
>spend all the money
>>79040487
travel isn't the issue anon, you are
you sound boring as fuck, have you seriously never had an amazing time anywhere by complete and random chance?
>>79022765
I've got 150 hours saved up and no vacations planned anytime soon...
>>79022765
>Wageslaving isn't just a meme feels bad.
we converted to this system after we decided whipping motherfuckers and paying them nothing wasn't profitable enough
>>79038620
R is pretty great, unfortunately most of my queries are hundreds of millions of rows so I can't run it locally on my laptop.
I have 3 months vacation.
197 of sick time and 146 of pto.
Come feb if I use none of it, I will have a very nice "bonus" check.
So fuck using any of it.
>>79029093
i hear this line all the time and it really annoys me. you little euro bitches always prattling on about how complex and difficult shit is instead of just shutting the fuck up and getting the job done. you's be amazed the progress you can make when you work smart and hard.
>>79023316
It's quite rare for vacation days to rollover, most companies say use 'em or lose 'em every year.
But they also fuck with your mind and make you think you're gonna lose your job for taking time off.
>>79035896
honestly I'd do this - either have that clause in my contract or just have no leave days, but get the extra pay up-front with deductions if I need leave
I don't even get vacation time
>>79029093
Lol you know nothing about america
>>79023592
Most of the MANY companies who do this cut you a check for half or even a quarter of your days.
And the rest gets thrown away.
Please stop pretending that workers aren't being swindled and exploited by their own employers, because the fact that you people refuse to acknowledge the worker's problems is what makes them all turn to socialism and Communism.
25 years ago, people would be HORRIFIED to see so many young people supporting communism.
That's because those workers at the bottom of the pyramid are getting massively screwed and only the goddamned communists pretend to give a fuck.
Communism doesn't take over a country until corruption opens the door. If we stopped screwing our workers, the commies wouldn't be gaining so much traction.
That's real capitalism, real capitalism is about lifting your workers up, not nickle-and-dimeing them to fucking death because if they don't like it, you've got 50 Paco's lined up ready to do their job without complaining.
I know you think screwing your way to the top is the way to go, but you're screwing your own children just like your parents sold out your future.
Don't complete the cycle, break the cycle.
>>79028874
What do you do?
>>79038765
wait do europoors not get weekends or what?
>>79022765
in Aus, a lot of cunts just load up their annual leave which is 4 weeks/year and use their sick leave which is 10 days/year but usually doesn't get paid out unlike annual. We also have long service leave which is 13 weeks after 10 years and is usually pro rated if you leave after 5 years. We also get super which is about 10% of your wage. You can also top up this with a salary sacrifice which is taxed at only 15% rather than ~33% for income tax which means you get to keep 85% of the dollar rather than 67% which is a return of 27% if you were to not sacrifice it.
>>79022765
I take vacation when it's the right time to do so. My company has been working a project that for the last 2 years has been 12 hours/day, 7 days/week. So I'm not taking any vacation until the project ends, about another year from now. I'm not gonna leave those fat overtime checks on the table.
>>79040646
Yes all over my own giant city and surrounding countryside with the millions of cool things and new people there.
No need to pay to go somewhere else when people there are paying to go where I am too.
>>79035896
Shit man that sounds great. Do many places do that?
>>79042941
>25 years ago, people would be HORRIFIED to see so many young people supporting communism.
>That's because those workers at the bottom of the pyramid are getting massively screwed and only the goddamned communists pretend to give a fuck.
Bullshit. American communists are all rich private school kids mad at their dad who is CFO of Monsanto or whatever and funding their protest stick it to the man lifestyle
>implying anything to do with American communism emanates from or authentically relates to workers in any way
>>79022765
I just fucking cash them in for free money.
>>79023229
>and enjoy work
Check out this goy lmaoooo
>>79025037
Why is it boring?
Did you marry a stupid bitch?
Does your house suck?
You don't bother raising your children, so they're ungrateful little shits?
A house and a family is whatever you make of it, and if every day isn't heaven, it's because YOU fucked up.
Most people spend all their time, thought, and effort on work for their first several years of their marriage, and then wonder why they hate coming home more than being at work.
And you wonder why your wife is banging her boss at her work, maybe because that's the man she sees every day, all day long, working hard, making money, building his dream.
She doesn't see you that way, you're the tired, boring, cranky guy who just wants to relax and watch something mindless after working your ass off.
You sabotaged yourself.
>>79043764
It's possible to have a job you enjoy you fucking leaf. If you're at a job you hate then it's only your fault.
>>79023229
holy shit you are a cuck. I'd imagine you would be the slave on the plantation field singing how much he enjoys being a slave picking cotton.
>>79031471
Best post and most underrated post, to be honest.
>>79034287
>"Americans are too obsessed with work"
>Germany
I remember my first job out of college:
>have bunch of old timers who have been building up vacation days for decades
>new management comes in
>changes policy so if you don't use vacation days by end of year you lose them
>that november/december, half of office is on vacation for the whole month(s)
>new management pissed off over 'gaming' the system
If they had just kept their mouths shut, those old-timers would have just built up vacation days for another year.
>>79044217
Serves them right for coming in and just changing shit
>>79022765
Because no one can afford to go anywhere for long periods of time. A weekend FUCKING rental can cost in the thousands at the Jersey FUCKING shore.
>>79044330
>you have to travel on vacation
Alot of people just drink and go to the movies on their time off to relax.
>>79024542
That or if you're literally a nigger collecting dem benefitz
>>79033617
Japan needs to adopt this.
They need to do whatever they can to get rid of their retarded MUH HONOUR in the work place. It's absolutely fine to leave your office before the man who's paid over twice your salary for being there.
>>79023060
I can't agree with you more. I rather like your policy of mandating taking time off.
>>79022765
>leaving my current company for a better opportunity this month
>my remaining 15 days of paid time off get paid out to me on my last check
>get another 30 days at the new place
>waisted/unused
I'm very happy about this
>>79023991
Wow get a better job lol that sucks
>>79027040
Personally I can't stand not working
I once took six months off in college and I became a sloth-like lazy piece of shit
I plan on working until I physically can't, it gives me something to do
>>79022765
>city added sick leave law because some stupid meme about people not having days off
>get less paid vacation days now because of it
>>79028409
know that feel
>few years ago my company had a massive backlog
>took weeks of maneuvering and begging to let me work from home
>started wracking up 20+ ot a week
My paychecks were glorious. Almost makes me miss hourly..... Almost
>>79045281
I'm with you man. I don't 100% love the work life but just sitting at home all day is boring as shit.
>>79027040
>and that Europe is perfectly competitive in a modern economy in spite of our terrible lax "work ethic"
Is that why there are individual states here with greater GDPs than entire countries over there?
>>79027040
>Somehow it never occurs to people that simply hiring slightly more employees to work less hours each would actually make all employees more relaxed and productive. Instead, unpaid overtime to save a few hundred bucks a month by working your slaves beyond the window of productivity seems like a good idea.. Why?
It's weird to me as an RN because you see this attitude at work in administrators.
They honestly believe right down to their toes that hiring three people to do a three-man job is cucking themselves and they should hire two people and just have them work harder.
It's amazing to me how you would rather run your whole Hospital on a skeleton crew, increase turnover 500%, have to hire more agency nurses, which cost more...
All because GOD FORBID you hire three nurses and then one of them has five minutes to sit on their ass instead of just constantly scrambling, constantly behind, constantly risking your license because if three patients have a problem at the same time and there's two nurses on duty, guess what? Patient #3 is fucked and so are we. I know several perfectly good nurses whose training and education are worthless now because they were understaffed to deal with an emergency and an emergency happened anyway, and they lost their license for not being able to be in two places at once.
All because GOD IN FUCKING HEAVEN FUCKING FORBID that you hire enough people to get the job done but every worker you have isn't busy doing something every single goddamned second they're on the clock.
It's like in a relationship when you cheat on your partner and you feel so guilty that you get suspicious they may be cheating on you, so you cheat on them more.
That's what these administrators are like. They fuck their employees so hard, so many different ways, that the guilt overwhelms them and they think, "My god, we're screwing these people so fucking hard, they'd be fools not to screw us right back! We've got to screw them 10x harder just to break even
What if people like their job?
>>79038286
>I'm planning on going to Spain and walking the Camino De Santiago
what a fag
>>79022765
I took 23 days of vacation last year and I will be taking the same amount this year.
>>79027040 Half of us have to work like dogs so we can live far enough away from from the other half that we are supporting so they don't kill us.
Just took a whole week off and camped out in the woods.
About to take another week off soon to do the same. I love the summer.
Feels good working to live instead of living to work.
>>79030303
I can't imagine somebody enjoying being raped in the ass with a big, spiny dildo that literally tears their sphincter muscle, but some people really do enjoy that.
But just because you TELL me you enjoy it doesn't mean I don't think you're profoundly mentally ill, if it's something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
>>79035896
My job does this. Time doesn't expire and after you quit or get fired they cut you a check for all your vacation time you didn't use. You lose all your sick time, though, so most try to use that up before quitting.
I got some wisdom teeth pulled and took 2 weeks sick time lol. Was a nice vacation drugged out playing dark souls 3.
>MUH TRAVEL
that article is mostly complaining about people not traveling.
Travel to where? It's all the same brown shitholes.
See California!
Oh look it's mexico
See Florida!
Oh look mexico but more communist
See Texas!
Oh look Californians
See the south!
Oh look niggers.
See the mid west!
Oh look MUSLIM niggers
See New York!
Designated.
See the great outdoors it the northern states!
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
Course people aren't traveling it's all the same spic and nigger filled shit holes. Where you gunna go? Europe?
Same fucking shit. How pathetic would that be. Spending that money to go witness the death of cultures. Fuck that crap.
Stay home and jack off to anime.
>>79030504
What do you think NEETs do all day?
Sit on the bed staring at the wall until the sun goes down, and then going to sleep?
>>79045743
NEETfags can't fathom that
>>79022765
What do Italians have to say about this?
Whats vacation time ._.
>tfw selling your paid leave for a 13th paycheck
>>79030565
>One week we harvest the anniversary benefit losses. The next week, the boomer HR manager calls and puts on a show about how pissed he is and how unfair it is for 'his people'. A few hours later, that old fuck calls and thanks us, and 'no, don't restore the vacation days, it's fine, anon.'
So it goes without saying you don't believe in any merit-based afterlife.
I would feel a trembling in my soul if I was making all that money just by screwing hard-working people trying to raise families.
Why don't you use your cleverness to fuck over the greedy people, not help them fuck over innocent people just trying to get by.
Do you truly feel nothing when you think of all the misery and anguish you're causing? Ruined marriages, broken families, lives destroyed.
What happened to you that makes you so cold and callous?
>vacation pay built into cheques
>leave when I want
>work overtime when I want
Office pleb will never know this feel
American wageslave here. I get one week of unpaid vacation time each year, which I'd rather not take.
It's not like I can go on vacation with that time anyway. I have to use that time to fix house and/or vehicle, which are both in a constant state of falling apart.
I'd rather just go to work and not have to deal with that stressful shit.
>>79047216
Hawaii is still nice. Also I heard good things about that sandnigger las Vegas. Dubai I think? Ebiza?
London might be a little better in a few years. We'll see.
>>79030303
Works not shit, I enjoy the money. But if i had someone pay me to go back to jacking off 3-5 times a day, playing vidya, checking football news, getting drunk 2-4 times a week, lift in the morning when no one's around, smoking cigars on the roof. Shit. It'd be a no brainer
>>79024385
I have something for you to examine
>>79031471
goddamn hong kong
bringing the base-d
>>79022765
I use all of my vacation days and take any day off they'll give me. I can't wait until I've been with the company for five years and get three fucking weeks of paid vacation.
>>79023002
Most PTO accrual has a cap, use it or lose it.
>>79047216
>Oh look mexico but more communist
literally where?
>>79027932
When you live in a literal swamp country Thailand is not so bad desu
96% humidity is not out of the ordinary here
