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Political compass thread?
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hi
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>You're a statist commie if you don't agree with me

KEK
It's true!
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>You're a statist commie if you don't agree with me
>You're a race traitor if you don't agree with me
both true
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>>78985984
kill yourself
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>>78986638
lmao good lad
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>>78985503
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>>78990117
>that filename
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>>78985984
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>>78985503
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>>78985503
Hate for all
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>>78992010
tfw Trump supporter but always fell well into the Left-Authoritarian spectra.
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All my test shit, please tell me how cool I am.
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>>78985503
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>>78992478
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>>78985503
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>>78992691
done
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>>78992632
>Becoming a leftist commie cuck

Should have stayed at "free market can fix it" although low test man-babies and women would rather have limp dick bureaucrats make decisions for them so they don't have to think or work to hard, such is life.
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>>78985984
My nigga
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>>78985503
Fixed that for you
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>>78985859
the fuck are you
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>>78985503
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>>78992427
4/10
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>>78993144
Oh, but it does. And I, >>78985984, am one of them.
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>>78992784

>I don't know what to call you traitors

lulz
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>>78993144
Factual. Left Libertarianism does not exist and never has.
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>>78993244

Do you have a list of those sites?
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>>78993244
>Being this far left

You can do better my man.
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>>78992427
got links for all these tests?
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>>78993348
No mate, but they're all from just googling 'political tests'.
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>>78992290
>always fell well into the Left-Authoritarian spectra
low IQ shitskins tend not to be able to comprehend economics, hence your inclination to always fall into a third world shithole rife with poverty.
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>>78993505
>>78993348
Moral foundation and "evil leader" test with Goreing is on celebritytypes.com, 16 personalities for ESTP personality type, forgot links to the rest.
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>>78993247
That's because you're a delusional fucktard who believes in things that contradict eachother.
I bet if I got to know you, you'd out yourself as an authoritarian in record time.

It's literally impossible to be a leftist and not an authoritarian - if you're consistent you'll adapt authoritarian positions when questioned. If not, you'll just perform mental gymnastics to pretend you're a libertarian. Or maybe you'll do both at the same time, you addled freak.
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1/2
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>>78988871
>>78990254
>>78992692
>>78993209

Based
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>>78993978
2/2

Am I /pol/ approved?
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What if someone who is conservative on social issues and statist/protectionist in economics where do they fall???
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>>78994038
Top right.
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>>78992691
thanks bro, I laughed
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>>78985909

If youre not within 1 box of me, kys
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>>78992170
I was like you, friend. Then I moved slightly right, then down a bit. Six months later I'm literally Hitler.
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>>78993939
>implying it is literally impossible to be a leftist and not an authoritarian
>wanting the government to only interfere with economic matters make me authoritarian
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fite me faggots
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>>78994825
>being an authoritarian makes me an authoritarian
Wow, what a difficult concept. I know left libertarians are brain dead, but c'mon.
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>>78994826
>>78994856
Kill yourselves lefty scum.
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r8 m8
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>>78994825
M8 leftism is inherently authoritarian in that it distributes wealth for egalitarian pursuits and uses taxation to fund government programs, that is what leftism is. If you believe in these things you might not be full blown Hitler-Stalin 5th reich but you're still an authoritarian.
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>>78994995
>words mean whatever I want them to mean
Am I one being authoritarian here?
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Im sorry for asking a dumb question, but why is being a left libertarian impossible?
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>>78992632
Not everyone becomes a natsoc. Some of us become a really edgy nationalist.
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>>78995337
I don't deny that but you and Estonia need to know the concept of "magnitude".
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>>78995375
>>78995337
What I said here.
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>>78995375
The only shred of a chance libertarian izm has of working is if everyone has the same inherent moral compass, otherwise you have somalia.
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>>78995361
The political compass is about economics and equality. You're saying you're an authoritarian and then you're upset that your progressive views on irrelevant social issues don't register you as a libertarian.

Fuck off you mongrel.
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>>78995112
>>78995809

pretty close, who you vote for?
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>>78995650
>>78995721
Thank you! :)
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>>78995721
Not true my man, daily reminder libertarianism is not anarchism. It has a government and a police force and a court of law, all funded by tax payers. BUT TAXATION IS THEFT. It is, when it is being used outside of these necessary parameters, as the "states core job is for justice and defense". This is a massive philosophical argument that people go talk hours about, like anarchists for example don't even believe in a established military and such, but libertarians do. Somalia is anarchy.
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>>78992427
Just took this. Fun stuff.
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>>78992899
Commie is farther left. That area is NatSoc.
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>>78985503
>>78990117
>>78992170
>>78992784
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>>78995795
Compass is about how much government you want vs how much equality you want. Constantly equating authoritarian with leftism without explaining why won't prove anything. I may be a statist(who wants lesser gov as opposed to more), but calling me authoritarian is too drastic
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I'm chaotic-neutral half-elf ranger.
Am I doing it right?
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>>78985984
GET OUT
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>>78996042
Still too left for my tastes, I don't like cunts in suits telling my where to cum and how to brush my teeth, but then again I have a backbone.
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How did i do?
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>>78996206
That's what I said, you cretin. Leftism wants equality, equality requires authoritarian government. You can't be a left libertarian, because that means you want less government and more equality. Which makes absolutely no sense.

If you're a left libertarian, you might as well just say "I don't give a fuck either way".
Because that's what you're signaling. Either that or unbelievable ignorance. Either you care about achieving equality, in which case you're an authoritarian. Or you don't. Those are the options.
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>>78996458
0/10, see me after class and I'll tell you why you shouldn't support Bernie Sanders.
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>>78996466
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What would you call this point? I say I'm a libertarian but then I get trolled for muh open borders.

I'm against most immigration and the border should be enforced. Don't even like Gary Johnson bc he's open to gun control and thinks a private business owner should be forced under law to serve undesirables.
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>>78986638
Are you a meme?
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>>78993244
of all people i was not expecting putin...
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>>78996458
kys
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>>78996466
GET OUT.
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>>78996361
I actually agree. I always get Right-Libertarian on these things.
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>>78997178
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>78996964
Being a libertarian doesn't mean you must support open borders. On the other hand "for gun control" and "should be forced by law to serve undesirables" are completely opposed to libertarianism on principle.

Those aren't pragmatic issues, while border control is.
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>>78996683
>government must be authoritarian
>can't have ess government and more equality
>what are unions or syndicates?
Your lack of nuances in your worldview is distributing
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>>78996838

That's mine also.

Moderates unite.

#TeamBloomberg
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>>78996964
>>78992427
Me and you are in the same boat, I generally call myself libertarian to normies and as a jumping off point but as to the actual ideology for those who are more informed, the term paleolobertarianism or paleoconservatism is somewhat apt.
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>>78997329
>what are unions or syndicates?
Powerless without authority.
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>>78997372
>(((bloomberg)))
no thanks
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>>78996969
Yes.
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old-school social democrat with a bit of a mutualist tinge (have simmered down a bit/gotten more pragmatic and realistic from my trot days), dislike SJW identity politics but hate /pol/acks even more
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>>78996964
are you me?
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>>78992691
This one is great
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excuse quality desu
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>>78997491
Sounds about right, a cuck with little understanding of economics and history. On the bright side of things most of the western world is filled with your type so you are in good company.
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>>78997625

i'll never be cucked because i stick to 2D

i *wish* western society were filled with types like me, the only current major figures i like are sanders (though his reddit supporters are insufferable)/corbyn/iglesias
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>>78996964
Gary Johnson isn't even a libertarian. He's basically a leftist. Of the issues you discussed anti-border control is the thing that would make more sense to be as a libertarian. Wanting the government to force things is completely opposed to libertarianism.
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>>78997433
>people working together for a common goal have no power
As opposed to corporations and companies amiright?
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>>78996964
I call myself Libertarian to the politically inactive, but Minarchism is what I really fall into. I am against open borders and for protectionism when it comes to international trade, but domestic trade should be unregulated.
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>>78997877
The libertarian sperg in me is begging me to debate/berate you for supporting sanders but I know there isn't a point. On that note, most voters are like you is what I mean, at least the 50 and under demographic, but mostly millennials.
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>>78998049
Okay here is the scenario. You and your buddies decide to form an union and refuse to work for less than X+10 dollars a hour.

The next day Rufus shows up with his friend Jones and they don't want to join your union. Instead they go to the employer and get a job for x dollars a hour. Then they go tell all their friends about these job opportunities and everyone lives happily ever after.

Except you, because now you don't have a job.
Know how real life unions dealt with this situation? They went crying to big daddy government or they beat the shit out of Rufus and Jones. Both of which put them strictly in authoritarian category.
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>>78998232

anything is an improvement over the fucking baby boomers
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>>78992427
>All this data mining

The NSA doesn't even try anymore man, we just give it to them like $1000 whores.
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>>78997877
Sanders is crap. Corbyn is pretty based though.
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ok
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hello
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If you are not where I am kys.
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>>78998568
I don't like the NSA either but I wouldn't try turning that picture into a serious talking point on surveillance, I mean really. What will they get out of it, some shitty personality test and my political ideology? "Oh this guy is an ESTP libertarian, take him down boys". They won't do dick with that info, they can datamine it all they want.
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>>78985503
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>>78998299
What a interesting fairy tale. Do everyone get a unicorn in the end. Well I don't want to make an assumption that people are not rationally shortsighted to oppose your assumption that people are. I only wanted to say that unions have proved to be effective via strikes and boycott on occasions and point out to you they can exist. And more importantly you can have less government and more equality. Sure you might think other worldview are stupid (it is okay I think so too) but it is an improvement than refusing to acknowledge them
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Squibbly scabbly pip pip doodly doo
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How did I do /pol/?
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>>78999599
It's not a matter of being short-sighted, you just can't force everyone cooperate with you unless you have authority. Yes you can form unions, but you'll have to compete with non-union workforce. If you're striking and they are going to work in your place, you're fucked.

If you want to talk about unicorns, an union which is so good that everyone will join out of their free volition is an unicorn.
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>>78992691
>>78999657
Why is the very bottom always related to Odin/edgy nords?
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Never forget that /pol/ is satire being taken too seriously.
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>>78997913
Yea I was disappointed to hear some of his views, like https://youtu.be/COItiKtHWyg

Baking cakes isn't exactly my biggest concern in life but his answer wasn't much different than some shit you'd hear from the regressive left
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>>78994333
Best one I have ever seen
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INFP: god-tier
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>>79000084
I think I started that trend when I made this chart a few years ago.
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>>79000698
How is Anarchistic Centrism related to Odin?
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>>78997016
Well, I got THE commie.

Stalin. At least he killed russians.
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Someone compile these results into one map and caption it "/pol/ is one person".
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>>79000045
Oh sure that could happen. It is happening now in my country. But it won't have the happy ending you envisioned
>Rufus and Jones offer to get paid less
>James realize he can get the job if he gets paid less
>Race to the bottom in terms of wages
>working conditions worsen coz companies dgaf
>workers have to bid for jobs like an auction by undercutting each other (this literally happened in the Glided Age)
>Rufus realized they should have joined the union
>"No!" Said jones "We cannot! We need to prove an Estonian right about his narrow worldview!"
>Rufus smiled. Maybe they will get their happy ending after all
Sorry mine doesn't have unicorns. But then again, mine actually happens
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>>78997397
Interesting. Posting a chart I found with paleo libertarianism . Don't hear that term much at all
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>>79000517
>--F-
>God-Tier
Anon...

t. ISTP-A
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>>79000849
I was into Odinism when I made it so I put it where I fit in on the compass. Its strange that it caught on at all. I didn't know what I was doing.
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>>78985503
>OP gets red and green swapped

Why start the thread with a wrong pic?
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Why does everyone assume being being far left and anti-authoritarian denotes a sort of "uneducated" or "hippie" perspective? In my eyes, libertarianism doesnt mean "everyone does what they want." It means direct participation in the government and near abolition of the individual will in favor of acceptance of the needs all of people via the ruling of an assembly.
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>>79001267
I have literally no idea whether you're proving my point or not. You're ambiguous.

There is no reason to believe that joining the union would have helped in the conditions you outline, because you're describing a scenario where labour market supply massively outpaces demand.
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>>79000517
What is that test at the bottom left?
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>>79001267
Let me add some more greentext
>Rufus realize that they should have joined the unions
>after all they are self interest individual that can think rationally
>hell they can even form a union
Then jones starts talking
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>>79001773
I don't know if you've ever gone outside of your home and seen the real world, but people don't think rationally. People in particular don't make decisions rationally. If you are operating under the assumption that they do, I recommend that you stop because you're setting yourself up for misery when they inevitably betray your expectations.
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>>78993304
>my knowledge of "libertarian" is any combination of the following: Ron/Rand Paul, Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, and a few other miscellaneous names I picked up in conversation or read a chapter of a book in
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>>79002103
Your summer homework is to read The Wealth of Nations, annotate it, and come back when you turn 18.
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>>79002103
>Typical feminist college educated simpleton barges into the thread telling everyone to read a book and educate themselves.
You live up to the stereotype so perfectly
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>>79001686
I am saying the original story you created is retarded(among other things) in assuming there will be a happy ending. A union would helped in preventing the race to the bottom in the first place.

>describing a scenario where labour market supply massively outpaces demand
Nigga I described history. See glided age of America, NAFTA and for the future TPP

>>79002051
>people are stupid coz I am
Can't make this shut up
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PURPLE SQUARE MASTERRACE, UNITE! or don't, as it's your choice.
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Who else masterrace on here?
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>>79002294
I didn't make that assumption. The only assumption I made is that Rufus and Jones will be happy in the short term because they get the job. It just refutes your position that unions do something when they are powerless.

>>79002418
>people are stupid coz I am
Are you projecting?
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r9
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>>79002432
>or don't, as it's your choice
Unless you are a commie, in that case, your right are revoked

>>79001833
What a good thing this is bait

>>79001282
nice chart
did you make it?
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>>79002715
but wait, there's more
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r8
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how'd I do lads
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>>79002768
No, had it in my pol folder with a few others.
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>>79002621
And in the long term nobody wins. That is why people have unions to prevent retardation

>literally label people stupid to protect his narrow worldview
>generalize everyone to fit his worldview
>accusing others of projecting
Holy shit, can't make this shit up senpai.
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What does this make me?
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>>79002621
>literally wrote everyone lives happily ever after
>nah it is short term bro!
Sure
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>>79003076
Unions don't prevent anything if they are powerless. The reason why unions work is because they can force people to join either through violence or government coercion.

Without that, they are useless.
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>>79002432
>>79002610
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>>79002964
R A R E
A
R
E
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>>78985503
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>>78992427
9/10

needs more physical removal
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>>79003460
can confirm, I drifted from the center of the lower left, to pic-related.
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>>78992010
>Hillary
>Bottom Left
Or are you implying that the people there are so pants-on-head retarded where they'll vote for an authoritarian even though they're "Liberal" leftists?
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>>78985984
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>>79003374
No. People can join unions voluntarily coz it is the rational thing to do.

>mfw I am telling a lolbertarian the power of voluntary rational people
What has this world come to?
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>>79003460
autism fuck yeah
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>>79003397
I am right libertarian
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What's the actual difference between the libertarian left and the libertarian right?
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>>79003933
Libertarian Left = Hippie Commune
Libertarian Right = "Don't Tread on Me"
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>>79003933
The first is an oxymoron (you can't have a liberal society without economic freedom)
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>>79003933
Mad max versus Care Bears
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>>79002768
Pinochet died for our sins.
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>>79003933
Unless you go full anarcho-syndicalist, Left-libertarian is Bernie Sanders style DUDE WEED LMAO mixed with Scandinavian style welfare systems.

If you're familiar with Sarcuck of Mossad, he considers himself left-libertarian.
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>>79003933
It's generic freedom with a little bit of "b-but think of the children!" which is, in practice, unsustainable.
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>>78985503
Red and green are the other way round
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>>79002964
You fags better not join Spain
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>>79003933
Libertarian left = Mohatma Ghandi
Libertarian right = George Washington
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>>79004286
What are the bottom 2?
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>>79004451
special snowflakes Dr Manhattan wannabes
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>>79004286
>This meme is bullshit I clearly belong in purple

Perfect meme 10/10
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>>79004213
He is the only reason Chile is the only decent latin american country.
#respect
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>>79004050
Then how would you describe a society where the individuals submit private property to the ownership of the community, and do so voluntarily and in line with their values, not because of a lack of freedom to do otherwise?
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>>79004451
Individuo-Anarchism. See Max Stirner.
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>>79004620
If they did it voluntarily then there would have been economic freedom (right libertarianism).
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>>78985503
What's worse, commies or race traitors?
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>>79004451
I thought it was always the Illuminati. Off the grid
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>>79004850
Usually they are the same thing.
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>>79004740
Not really. Anarcho-syndicalists are generally considered to be on the left. Left/right axis is probably more of a "equality/non equality" or "collectivist/individualist" axis than an "economic freedom" axis.
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>>79004583
f
f
f
f
f
f
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Fuck
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>>79003933

Position on Capitalism basically

Right =

>Mises
>Rothbard
>Hayek

Left =

>Kropotkin
>Bakunin
>Bookchin

Don't listen to buttblasted ancraps, they don't know shit about politics.

For modern example of green look up

>EZLN territories in Mexico
>PKK controlled regions of Kurdistan

For historical examples look up:

>Ukraine Free Territory
>Revolutionary Catalonia
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>>79004850
Race traitors
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>>79005063
Get the fuck out
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>>79005022
uh, huh?
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>>79005125
Can't help it, my country is monopolyland
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>>79004740
Okay, that being said, would you describe this same society as being libertarian when an individual refuses to submit property in his possession because his values differ, and the others withhold the use of their community-owned land and property from him by consensus, again voluntarily and in line with their values? Or would you consider that a limit on economic freedom and thus no longer libertarian?
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>>79004451

Post left ball

The "I" ball is post-left egoism

>See Max Stirner

The other ball is Anarcho-Primitivism

>See Unabomber
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>This is a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_anarchism
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>>78996224
Dragon slut is still mad that this racemixed vagrant oneshot her favorite minmaxed gish and got away with it.
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Been roughly here for at least 6 years.

Where my purple pros at.
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I used to be in the bottom left before I studied economics
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>>78985503
i am totally left and exactly on the horizontal line
what to do guys?
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>>79005453
It's not a thing.
Well, it is a thing, but it's bullshit made by special snowflakes who think that sucking dick as an anarchist somehow separates you from the rest of us dick-sucking anarchists.
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>>79005453
That's Nothing, have you heard of Queer Nationalism? Gays want to make a Nation-State filled with nothing butt other faggots.
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>>79005497
>>79003850
>>79003566
>>79003397
>>78995809
>>78995112
>>78985909
THIS IS NOW A LIBERTARIAN THREAD

BOOTLICKERS GTFO
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>>79000000
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>>79005623

Be a Trot or git gud
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>>79005623
Read Austrian School economics textbooks. Should be easy, considering that's your home nation.
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>>79005646
Like California?
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>>78985503
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>>78985503
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>>78985909
that seems about right for me
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>>78992632
Am I on the right path? Because I really feel like I don't belong in the libertarian left part of the chart. I don't like the "SMOKE WEED LOL" crowd, neither the SJWs. I approve of the death penalty and I don't think most criminals can actually be re-inserted into society.
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>>79005453
Surprised it was so old and not something that came out last week
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>>79005768
Just San Francisco and Berkeley, aka Sodom and Gomorrah.
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>>79005623
Read Austrian school books, Adam Smith, the Declaration of Independence and JS Mill.
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>>78990117
The talking head isn't wrong :)
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>>79005808
You're going up a bit too fast, and right a bit too slow, but otherwise, it's a good trend.
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>>79005808

This shit is rigged to the libertarian scale and also toward left-wing economics.

Unless your a full on retard you'll fall in green or purple.
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>>79005808
Just go for libertarian right and you should be fine.
Let's make Chile great again!

>>79005917
YES
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>>79005917
>>79005668
This is why I'm fucking embarrassed to call myself a libertarian. Abnormally high proportion of spergs.
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>>79005646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_nationalism
Alright this is not funny anymore
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>>79005917
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>>79006028
Reasonable Centrist / 10
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>>78991202
Ghoul posts his memes on facebook. It's probably the source.
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>>78992427
I'm a gay INFP national socialist
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>>79005981
Doesn't seem rigged to me. Every time I take a political test, I always land in the same spot. They are all equally rigged, or they are not. As simple as that.

>>79006037
Bias
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>>79005453
I don't see how it's so unbelievable.
If you consider gender norms a bad thing (as these fruitcakes obviously do), and you also consider enforcing gender norms a fundamental purpose of the state, then rejecting the state is the only way to escape gender norms.
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>>78985503
what political party am I?
also r8
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>>79006037

Read some Stirner friend.

Free yourself of Spooks and embrace true egoism
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>>79006037
We are discussing politics on a chink worshipping website, I think it's ok to have a little bit of autism in you
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>>78985503
spooks
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>>79006163
They need to consider this
"Not everything bad that happens is because of the state, not everything the state does is bad."
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>>79005917
We're the same, you and I.
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>>79006284
A pussified Nazi, not willing to go to the left enough to become a Commie, not willing to go up enough to be a Fascist, kill yourself, desu~
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>>78993144
>Left Libertarianism doesn't exist
Dude, Libertarian is being taken over by SJW types.
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>>79006317

>/pol/ so spooked it still has political compass threads
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I'm green and am basically liberal, but I'm okay with being a filthy capitalist, a race traitor, and a patriarchal shitlord. The one thing I'm NOT okay with is being a statist commie. So maybe I need to consider libertarianism more?
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>>78994036
link pls
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>>79006507
you mean already taken over?

The libertarian party in America is a joke because of people like Gary Johnson.
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>>78993144
Nice meme
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>>79006516
More like
>/pol/ is so spooked it uses political compass threads for petty tribalism
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>>79005696
>>79005716
>>79005836
but i am quite delighted with my results
actually only if it is a bit more up,
this green is pissing me off
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>>78993304
Libertarianism was often associated with socialism and syndicalism until the term was bastardized.
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>>79006470
Thanks pal, hope one day you grow out of anime.
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>>79006686

>spooked/10
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>>79006836
> wanting to be authoritarian
kys
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>>79006868
YouTube Noam Chomsky/10
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>>78993939
It's not hard to have a non-authoritarian position on things like civil liberties and social issues. Just don't fucking support such types of government expansion.
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>>79006836
Then read Karl Marx, Trotsky and Mein Kampf.
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>>78994995
>redefining words
ebin
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>>79006903
Y-you too
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>>79007086
libertarian left looks the comfiest desu
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>>79007086
>Authoritarian Right
Absolutely Glorious
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>>79000000
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>>79006686
>the state will never oppress me, right guys/10
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>>79006836

Ok senpai

Read

>Marx
>Lenin
>Trotsky
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>>79007251
Still inferior to libertarian right

>>79007211
Obviously
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>>79007086
I don't get Libertarian Right's picture.
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>>79007102
>being this left
>read mein kampf

>>79007211
that ass is too much right positioned if you ask me
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>>79007398
No matter how great your economy becomes the libertarian right never has the grandeur and traditions that builds the authoritarian right.
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>>79007398
>Still inferior to libertarian right
Nah, utterly unaesthetic deus.

If you're going to go full technomensch, at least have the decency and sense of class to build sparkling cities, spires of steel and crystal, and plenty of open atriums, plaza, and so forth.
neoclassical futuremensch up in here.
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>>79007497
>libertarian right never has the grandeur
Wrong
>and traditions
Irrelevant
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>>78985984
the good area
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>>78995337
Government spending and taxation don't magically lead to the resurgence of the NKVD or GULAGs or suppression of civil liberties.
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>>79007447
Cyberpunk dystopia.
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>>79007447
CYBER FUTURE WITH HORRIBLE SMOG BECAUSE NOBODY BOTHERED TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT! MEGA CITY 1 WHERE THE RICH RULE AND THE POOR BASK IN THE FLICKERING NEON LIGHT!

That sort of thing.
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>>79005096
>For historical examples look up:
>>Ukraine Free Territory
>>Revolutionary Catalonia

Also the English Diggers, the Paris Commune and 1919-1920 in Italy.

I consider myself a libertarian socialist (inb4 retards who don't know the meaning and origins of those terms)
>>
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come at me faggots
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>>79007562
>utterly unaesthetic deus
That's just the shell. It's the inside what amazes the most
It's not like we could have territories dedicated to living a society like the one you mention anyways
fuck, I don't want to die too early to live there
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>>79007614
>Communal regulation of labor and product.
If everyone agrees to the terms, yes, you're utterly correct, it's possible, but the moment someone disagrees with this utopia, it goes tits up.
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>>78996683
>equality requires authoritarianism
Keeping hierarchy and stratification requires authoritarianism. That's why corporations and government often join together to repress egalitarian movements.
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>>79007614
>>79000232
>>78999001
>>78997491
>>78985984
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>>79007565
>Traditions
>Irrelevant
and so the descent to narcissistic materialism begins, the lack of traditions will always bring forth degeneracy regardless of your position in the political spectrum.
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>>79007485
Mein Kampf would pur you on the red/ blue line but you would still be in the red box.
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>>79007731
>That's just the shell. It's the inside what amazes the most
Listen, fampai, if we're going to build glorious continent spanning monuments to man's grandeur and absolute mastery over all that he surveys, the least we could do is make it look beautiful. Needs a lot more white stone, polished steel, water ways, green spaces, and forums, atriums, plazas and so forth.
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>>78997433
Not really. Authority has traditionally been stacked against such groups.
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>>79007859
>Socialism
>Freedom
>Using these two terms as if they're intrinsically linked
Kill yourself, desu.
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>>79007859
>privillage
Jesus, they couldn't even spell privilege correctly.
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>>79007086
You know ancient Rome was left-wing, right? They literally invented welfare.
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>>79007592
>>79007600
Should have been a picture of the Capitol building or another Washington DC building.
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>>79007888

>narcissistic
>materialism
>tradition
>degeneracy
>political spectrum

so fukn spookd lad
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what the FUCK
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>>79008011
That's what happens when you have socialized education systems.
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>>79008054
Having some welfare doesn't make you a fucking commie, idiot. Don't you dare shit talk Roma.
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>>79008153
You managed to outbantz yourself.
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>>78997625
>HAHAHA LOOK AT LE ME MAM IM LE TROLLING XXDD I JUST SAID LE EBIN KEK MEME WORD ARENT I SO FUNNY???!11!!!???!!??!11!?!!! KEK KEK KEK LE EBIN XDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!!!!!1!!11!!!!!! I JUST SAY LE KEK DOESNT LE KNOW MUH SPECIAL OBJECTIVE BRAND OF ECONOMICS AND I LE WIN LE ARGUMENT AGAINST LE FUCKING STOOPID COMMIE FUCKS LE XDDDDDDD!!!!11!1!1!111!!
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>>79007946
You first.
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These are all of the results from the tests I've taken so far. Any more good tests out there, /pol/?
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>>79008153
>first kekd
>then flag
i fuck this up every time
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>>79007946

>Freedom is compatible with a hierarchical system of economics

tippy top kek lad
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>>79008329
forgot pic
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>>79007775
The only people disagreeing would be bitter capitalists angry about losing their precious private property. And it's materialistic and scientific, not utopian. Marxism 101.
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>>79007888
>the descent to narcissistic materialism begins
More fuel to the wonderful capitalist machine!

>the lack of traditions will always bring forth degeneracy
And "degeneracy" is a bad thing because?

>>79007912
I don't know about you, but it's beautiful just the way it is because it is.

>>79008291
Alternatively, for lefties
>pic related
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>>79008291
>Literally posts a picture of a National Socialist shooting himself in the head
You makin jokes, bud?
The only difference between you two is your type of socialist at least has a pretense of choice before they line dissidents up against the wall to be executed.
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>>78985503
Rate
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Fuck
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>>79008306
who the fuck is gary johnson?
>>
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>>79008411
Donate your computer to charity then, shitlord. Let squatters live in your mother's house. What? Don't you not believe in private property?
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>>79008437
Degeneracy is a consuming force the demands more power. America began as somewhat libertarian right in its beginnings but as degeneracy began to spread the "Oppressed" groups began to demand for control.

Due to your Libertarian ism you don't have the power authoritarian state to suppress them. Due to freedom of speech they exist, they will indoctrinate, and they will destroy you.
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>>79008535
>>79008535

>spooked/10
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>>79008543
The political equivalent of wet newspaper.
"I'm the center of republicans and democrats, th-that's good, right?"

The Modern US Libertarian party is a fucking joke.
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>>79000045
Unions haven't always resorted to violence to convince other workers. They just shun them and consider them traitors. Unions actually had a lot of power in the West before the 1980s or so.
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>>79008543
Libertarian front runner for the US, commies and leftist are the only ones that like him, he is the "open borders" type libertarian
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>>79008585

>personal property is private property

Absolutely love this meme
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>>79001677
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>>79008437
Congratulations I guess, if your country is full of class cucks you deserved to be ruled by a US puppet. That's literally how irrelevant you are.

>>79008484
There's nothing "socialist" about Nazism. It was an appropriation of the term to attract workers disillusioned with the crisis of capitalism in Weimar (to stem the KPD). Hitler immediately cracked down upon leftist parties and traded unions for a reason. Profits soared under Nazism for businesses who co-operated with the regime. Fascists go around killing anyone who doesn't fit their perfect master race vision. It's perfectly legitimate to crush them to protect people.

>>79008585
Private property is private ownership of the means of production (farms and factories). Personal property is fine. Although yeah empty and second houses should be seized.

Gulag yourself my man.
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>>79008225
You okay there bud?
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>>79008842
Then where's the delineation, retard? A car? Just your bed? Just your house? Just where your house resides (land, that is)? Should you allow squatters? If they can stay outside, why not inside?

That's the issue with you all, you seem to be allergic to giving clear definitions.
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>>79008683
>They just shun them and consider them traitors

And so they should. Scabs are scum who side with capitalists.
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>>79008626
I still fail to see how it's a bad thing. How could the system be destroyed because of it?

>>79008954
We are doing the best of all latin american countries, so I wouldn't worry much about it.
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>>79008437
>I don't know about you, but it's beautiful just the way it is because it is.
Nah, the only thing that's beautiful with a lack of sapient direction is nature itself.
Let the Earth be concerned with chaos and randomness and bringing beauty out of that; let man be concerned with artifice and mastery.
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>>79008954
So if I have my own garden, tended to with my own work? The results of that should be seized?

If I paint a picture in my basement, should my brushes and paints be property of the state?

If I make a chair out of wood? Is that the people's chair now?

And Nazism is simply socialism, but enforced via force.
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>>79007086
desu the only one of these I find particularly unappealing is authoritarian left. The other three all seem pretty nice.
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>>79009116
>We are doing the best of all latin american countries, so I wouldn't worry much about it.

Yeah, because you get the support of US imperialism. Rest assured once the US empire falls you'll go too and you can rot.
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>>78998680
How do you like Kucinich who the neocons and neolibs pushed out with redistricting? Governor Ventura hiding in his bunker now with his son on RT... is he counting shekels or rubles? Or are shekels the same as rubles now-a-days?

Everyone here keeps repeating the mantra that "there is no libertarian left", but I thought one dimension of the political graph was fiscal policy and the other was social policy? So how is it impossible to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal?? Is a streamlined efficient beurocracy really that impossible without subsidized, parasitic, predatory, profiteering, cousin fucking, inbred supremacist, cultists...gumming the works (often with "planned obsolecence" manufactured breakage and other vulture capitalism anticommons practices)? Maybe... maybe something about our fifth column dominated society of repression and denial, maybe something about the multinational, transnational, globalist, nepotistic, ponzi industrial banking/investment complex, crony capitalist, private/public executive revolving door, tax dodging, taxpayer subsidized, lobbyist, propaganda indoctrinated, radicalized special interest extremists too?

This whole thread is like a bad pun on whiny neoliberals crying about "Anarcho-capitalism isn't a real thing, you know!"
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>>79009020

>I cant google "consumer goods" and "capital goods" because i am le objective lolbertarian :^)
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>>79009164
I think these people are just fixating on the "helicopter of communist removal" meme which is actually a school of thought in libertarianism (based on Hans Hermann Hoppe), the physical removal of hostile entities that threaten the idea of libertarianism.
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>>79009116
Hey, Chile, how many food shortages have you had since you became Democratic, and no longer implemented "Neoliberal" reforms?

Trying to prove a point to these commies.
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>>79009116
Look at American History, in fact look at the history of West in general. Feminist, LGBT Activist, BlackLivesMatter etc. Feminist are trying to censor video games to be politically correct. LGBT Activist are suing business who simply refuse to bake them a cake for their "Wedding", and Niggers are just Nigging around as usual.

The Only way to destroy authoritarianism is with authoritarianism, free societies are simple blank slates that is asking to be conquered by some group.
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>>79009224
>dingy weed shack
>nice
>smoggy, chaotic, utilitarian-to-a-fault and soulless cyberpunk dystopia
>nice
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>>79008543
>>79008682
Gary Johnson's the kind of guy who says

>We're fiscally conservative and socially liberal, friend :)

That's not libertarianism. LP has started pandering to the left with "DUDE WEED" shit, hoping liberals won't ask how they feel about food stamps.

Johnson even thinks non-discrimination laws are a good thing. Again, not libertarian.
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>>79009164
I know, but it's still fun. In reality, it was a weird case, but whatever.

>>79009143
>let man be concerned with artifice and mastery
We still winning then

>>79009252
>Yeah, because you get the support of US imperialism.
Just like every other latin american country
>Rest assured once the US empire falls you'll go too and you can rot.
You too

>>79009403
I don't know, just check the global obesity rankings. That should clear it out, for better or worse.

>>79009412
Yeah, and all of that won't destroy libertarian capitalism. The only way to take it down would be to use massive force.
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>>79009303
>The two aren't intrinsically linked
>An automobile (supposedly a "Consumer Good") cannot possibly be used to generate income, what's a Taxi???
>A house (another "Consumer Good") cannot be used to generate income, sub-leasing? Sounds fake to me!!!
>A computer (you getting the theme here, window-licker?) can be used to create media and games

Where's the delineation?
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>>79007775
That's why there's democracy and compromise.
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>>79009627
Sure Liberal capitalism won't be destroyed it will only be controlled, socially, by the Degenerates and, economically, by oligarchs who can secretly create a stronger and stronger government,through lobbying, to guarantee their oligopoly.
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>>79009633
Hey, shut the fuck up, they came up with special terms, that means you lost the argument.
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>>79009627
>We still winning then
We always are, but there's something just absolute beautiful about a master-planned city, every stone, corner, and tower perfectly positioned to make a cyclopean work of art, one that thousands or millions of people will live and work in each and every day.
Organic cities may have more "character", but they are certainly not aw awe-inspiring.
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>>79009713
>Democracy
"51 people said that the remaining 49 people should be eaten, sorry lads, that's just Democracy."
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>>79009633

Its almost as if what a commodity is used for defines its function
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>>79010031
If a mom is willing to sell her children, she is a shitty parent and probably doesn't deserve to raise them.
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>>79010031
"I see you called a business associate with that phone, I'm sorry, we'll have to confiscate it."

Also, Rothbard is a prime example of someone taking an ideology to a horrifying extreme. Hayek is actually who I base my economic beliefs off of.
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>>78990117
there is so many people like this. they follow every political candidate on twitter so people think they are super open minded and interesting, but in reality are still biased as hell. just pretending they arent.
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>>79010444
>they follow every political candidate on twitter
But that's a great thing to do
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RALPH

NADER

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GOD
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>>79010444
The people who listen to what the other side have to say, and then reject it, are in fact more open-minded than the people whose only concept of the other side is the strawmen in their memes

looking at you /pol/
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Is this accurate?
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>>79011254
Forgot to add "4chan outside of /pol/" in green.
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>>78992010
>Implying being in red makes you a commie
So far this is the closest chart to the truth.
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