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FUCKING REMAINERS CAN'T STOP SLANDERING NIGEL FARAGE ABOUT THE £350 MILLION FOR THE NHS CLAIM!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>78906629
thats not even his bus is it?
was he even part of the official leave campaign?
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The 350 million was the official leave campaign, nothing to do with Nigel. Just shows how retarded the remaniacs are really that they don't know that.
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>>78906833
correct
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It wasn't Nigel... still doesn't make Leavers any less pants-on-head fucking retarded.
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>>78906833
I know I'm just an upper class expat dilettante, but for the life of me, I can't see an actual promise to spend the 350 mil on the NHS.
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>>78906629
Nigel Farage isn't even in Parliament.
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>>78906994

It doesn't, they are just clinging onto whatever they can, but remember, only educated people voted to remain... even if they can't read.
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>>78906629
Isn't the NHS "free" healthcare?

I'm all for fooling people into getting out of the EU with promises of funding more "free" programs, so then you can actually have a chance of getting rid of them. Here in the states we already have something similar, social security, where every politician says we're going to "save" social security, which is impossible. I can see why politicians will say anything to get elected.
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>>78906629
This is what a remain voter looks like.
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>>78906629
Its the only thing they got

And what's on that bus doesn't even imply it in the slightest
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>>78906994
that's because there was never a promise, the statement was that £350m is being spent on the EU and SOME of that COULD be spent on the NHS
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>>78906629
wait what are their arguments against it?
or is it just usual leftist muh feels bullshit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf5PV0K4KUw
video related, typical leftist
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>>78906629
Doesn't matter if it was Nigel or Boris, it was a lie
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What is the NHS? Nazi Hitler Shitlords is what the vibe i'm getting here.
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>>78907611
>crying over Nandos
My sides are officially gone
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>>78907757

Obama care
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>>78906629
are people just illiterate or what?

"let's" reads like an idea or suggestion, not ANY kind of fucking promise to me

when i say to someone "let's do XYZ" i'm sure as fuck not promising to do it, i'm suggesting it as a course of action that i'd LIKE to do, not that i'm guaranteeing i'll do

and that's without even touching the fact that it wasn't UKIP or Nigel putting that shit on busses
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>>78906629
Seen this one about too
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>>78906833
UKIP had a much better bus. (Because it had Nigel's face on it).
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>>78907895
oh and it's not as if Nigel has any power to promise a fucking thing to begin with, so even if someone claimed he did and voted based off it, they're a fucking moron
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>>78906629
Nigel can't guarantee shit. His party don't have actual power.

What do they want from him?
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>>78907757
National Health Service. It's basically free healthcare and generally regarded as a fantastic system that does a lot of good for the British people.
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>>78907900
That is just that slight bit across the line. It's still obviously rhetoric, but I can understand it confusing a lot of 'educated' crowd.
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>>78907985
>>78907864
ok, so why is everybody reactting like Hitler's ressurection over this 'bombshell'?
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>>78907928
>it had Nigel's face on it

Oh that cheeky cunt.
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>>78907404
Why do people let themselves end up like this?
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>>78906629
No surprise they haven't got a clue what they're talking about when they spent the last month with their fingers in the ears shouting racist over and over
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Well if he put it on a bus that's kind of out of hand to immediately wriggle out of it.

I get that you have feels and you want to feel those feels and your team good and no talk bad about team grrrrr, but that's still a bullshit thing for a politician to do.
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>>78908267
I'm american so all I can say is lazy, lazy, lazy.
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>>78906629
I find it ironic how the sheep identify with a monopoly called NHS that robs them of freedom of choice and cuts into their hard-earned salaries to support graft, nepotism, clientelism and offers subpar service (except for trauma and emergencies); makes me wonder how many people actually use it

t. universal healthcare user; NOT customer but user, very important difference right there
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>>78908267
They're fucked in the head , well never really understand the insanity of the leftists.
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>>78906629
>Farage
>Part of the official leave campaign

How the fuck do these people not know the official campaign wanted to keep Farage as far away as possible?
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>>78908342
here in america it's expensive as fuck, and thank to obummer care, you're also now required by law to get insurance. so much for canadian style healthcare, it's just a cashdrain here.
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>>78908342
>that robs them of freedom of choice
Does it? In what way? We have private health care if people want options.
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>>78908561
Because we're not actually allowed to opt out of the NHS entirely. Private care isn't cheap, especially not if you want to avoid the NHS entirely.

I don't even live in the UK and I'm still stuck paying for the bloody NHS.
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>>78906629
Are these people children? Do they have zero reading comprehension?

Even if it was Nigel's bus, the clear implication is that some will go to the NHS, but definitely not all of it.
At least they're too dumb to even go vote.
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>>78908520
I have 2/3 bad experience when I required non-emergency diagnostic and/or treatment from my own monopoly, guess where I had to go to get 21st century version? private clinic where I paid a lot out of my net paycheck

dental is also sketchy af, anything you want done properly comes out of your pocket

most of the funds collected into said monopoly end up in (((exclusive))) suppliers' hands and (((investments)))

>>78908561
choice is the exact opposite of a monopoly you cannot opt out of

you are but a user; customer is king, customer may take his business elsewhere, noone gives a fuck about the user
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>>78908465
I don't know much about brit/pol/. What kind of standing does Farage have in British politics? Is he the resident clown like the normies make him out to be?
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Just spoke to someone about this who said the 350 million we send is a pure lie.

Is this true?
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>>78909684
no its not a lie, its just a misunderstanding because thatcher negotiated a "discount" so the UK doesn't pay as much as the other EU states
its actually 250 million a week
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>>78906629

http://metro.co.uk/video/embed/1302364/5967094
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>>78909684
The Brits give 350mil to the EU but the EU pays some of it backa and it works out that the UK is still left 190mil short changed afterwards.
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>>78909684
No no no, you guys just don't get it. This was excellent campaigning. It was always the plan to say 350 million even though they know it's not the whole story.

Why? The same reason Trump says over the top things, it switches the dialog to something where you are strong.

By saying 350 million the argument against it became "it's only 190 million!" In fact John Oliver in his last segment said exactly that "only 190 million!" They are completely unaware that they've been utterly played.

Instead of the argument being over whether the 190 million was worth it the argument became "its ONLY 190 million" and the public were all like "wtf do you mean only?" This was absolute genius and everyone on the opposing side fell for it.
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>>78910166
this is accurate, its 13 billion you were giving the EU and you get back 6 billion
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>>78906629
The campaign and everything involving Nigel reminds me of Batman
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>>78908932

Sit down, Max, you got it only half right.

You can't boast about your reading comprehension and ignore the fact that the slogan in the bus leaves room for interpretation.

It does not say, only part of the money will go to the NHS. It also does not say all will go.

Maybe you should work on your reading skills or stop being butthurt.
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What people fail to understand is that even if Farage made the claim (he did not), even if he has a say on government policy (he does not), even if the claim was every penny would go to the NHS (it was not), the vote was on Britain's involvement in the EU. It wasn't a vote for a party or set of policies. It was a vote on something that could allow the possibility of doing those things. If we leave the EU we COULD spend the money saved on the NHS. If we leave the EU we COULD cut down on immigration. Could, not will.

For better or worse every post-Brexit idea was entirely hypothetical.
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>>78910673
The people in charge only planned for Bremain because it was the option that best suited them, the chance of Brexit was so small to them they never made a plan now the higher ups are attempting to hide their fuck up by throwing out scare tactics to sway voters and clinging onto any little thing they can.

A good government would of planned for Bremain and Brexit as both were viable outcomes, this just goes to show that with our newfound independence and power we should first turn our attention to getting rid of the gits higher up who failed us.
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>>78910021
>schools
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>>78908267
Every time i see a fat person i ask myself that, i mean it didn’t happen over night. They had to of noticed weight gain but decided to do nothing about it. One summer every other thing i ate was fast food and i started getting a little bit pudgy in the stomach an it bugged the SHIT out of me until i got rid of it.
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>>78908932
But nothing goes.

And now eu rubs it self in 350 million for the next two years and you cant do shit.
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Boris fucked you over good lads
Hope you hang him from his ankles until his head pops
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>>78906629
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-nigel-farage-nhs-350-million-pounds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html
He said they send 350 mil to the EU, and that leaving could mean they spend it on their own country.
Leftists twist words or are just illiterate. Seriously.
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>>78910958
>this just goes to show that with our newfound independence and power we should first turn our attention to getting rid of the gits higher up who failed us.

Completely agreed. We need a cleansing of the political class. Unfortunately I don't know how where to begin or who will replace them.
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>>78907928
Where the fuck was the remain bus? Did the fucker crash with no survivors?
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>>78910047
As others have pointed out, our membership fee is around 350 million per week. Or more accurately, for 2015 it was 342 million per week. The UK receives a rebate on this membership fee thanks to a deal Thatcher made, and with the money we got back from this it took our weekly fee in 2015 down to 248 million per week. On top of this, the EU also gave us 'funding' of 85 million per week. How anyone can call this funding is beyond me. It's our own damn money being given back to us, this is not funding at all.

That means in 2015, 163 million per week (248-85 = 163) completely disappeared into the EU, or 8.5 billion for the year. Some of this money could indeed go to fund the NHS, as the bus said. This however is up to the government at the time.

There is something you should remember though. We actually had to have that 342 million ready to send, we couldn't pretend we had it and then get a rebate applied to it. That means that the 342 million per week HAD TO EXIST and be collected from the British working tax payer. For that reason, I think it is entirely accurate to say that the British tax payer was taxed 342 million per week in 2015 to be part of the EU. Given that there were 30.5 million income tax payers in UK in 2015, I'd say EU membership cost the average working Brit (342/30.5)*52 = £583 per year.

>https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=44
>https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/523707/Table_2.1.pdf
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>>78912924
I would also like to point out that our rebate is fiercely contested by the other members of the EU, especially newer members, and many believe it should be scrapped all together. Every few years the EU must vote on the rebate and they must all agree to give it. Sooner or later, they're going to vote against it and it will be taken away.

And if anyone disputes the true fee of £342 million per week, just point out to them that our rebate for 2016 is entirely dependent on the fact that we were charged £342 million per week in 2015. You don't get taxed £1000 by the government and then say "Oh wait £250 went to the NHS so that means I only really got taxed £750". That's ridiculous. You would say you got taxed £1000 regardless of how the government spent that tax. Following that logic, we were taxed 342 million to be part of the EU, regardless of how the government spent what little came back.
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>>78912924
Exactly the EU takes more from Brits than it gives and then the media try's to say they're helping when really they're just draining you guys and not only that but forceing all sorts or beauricratic nonsense laws on you and making way too much red tape.

Then there's the idiots that believe that BREXIT will fuck up trading , what a load of garbage that is everyone else will leave the EU and continue trading like normal.

Too many greedy powerfull people with agendas in the EU and they spew so much propaganda scare tactics on the news to scare people away from leaving the EU.
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>>78911279
It could have been bad parenting allowing their children to get fat and then they're too lazy to get rid of it once they grow up with it
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>>78907895
people are retarded.

The slogan suggests that we can do other things with our money other than give it to the EU.

Nigel isn't even an MP or part of the government. The next stage of Brexit is negotiating our terms of exit. People honestly think we are already out of the EU, crying that they need a visa to go to Europe now and how their non-existant friends can't find a job.

FFS this only happened on FRIDAY, it's MONDAY. We've had a weekend of post-Brexit vote results. It's insane how retarded my country is.

Honestly, nuke us.
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>>78913530
The fight is far from over but you guys need to keep up the good fight otherwise your really fucked.
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>>78911907

It begins with a short rope and a long drop.
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>>78906629
Where it says that the total will be given to the NHS? Do you even imagine how much money is 350M/week? Give all that to the NHS would be just pants on head retarded.
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>>78913630
I agree. I think the next step is to actually have an election and choose a government that is ready to push for the best possible terms for the exit.

At the moment, the parties need to purge themselves of the Europhiles and shitty leaders who were out of touch with their voters. At that point we can have debates on what to do with out future.

We need to ignore the EU's calls to do this quickly (they can wait, we are under no obligation to do so). This is important to get right and needs everything to be in order.

Plus, my hope is that another country in the meantime also starts having referendum debates, which would strengthen our hand with the EU as well as allow us to start forming stronger alliances outside of the EU.
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>>78908267
To secure a black trans glenderfluid woman with a bbc
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>>78907611
>>78907858
what the fuck is Nandos?
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>>78914115
Portuguese grilled chicken restaurant chain. Just slathers everything in piri piri sauce. It's a hit with nigs and pakis
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>>78907928
ONE EYE ON THE STREETS
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>>78907548
this

also, how can Farage and UKIP do anything regarding the budget. I mean he isn't even in the parliament and UKIP has 1 member of parliament.
There's no way they could conceivably do anything before an election, even then, how things are going they won't even make it into parliament.

Or did people think Farage will trigger a coup d'état and will all that money to the NHS through the sheer power of his massive balls?
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>>78914203
Weird we don't have any restaurant being the neighbor of Portugal.
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>>78909122
hes just a whipping boy for the elitist fucks that think anyone who is concerned or critical about the government's immigration policy is racist.

People circlejerk over not liking him, and rarely give his arguments merit because they think 'he is secretly racist'.

Its centre left paranoia and classism at its finest

His party got 4 million votes last year up from half a million, it shows how much contempt people have for democracy and people they percieve to be in a 'lower' class than themselves (this includes the liberals and cucks that are derriding IQs and council house scumbags etc)

the future of the country must not be down to the whim of these people, it is important for people to engage their MPs by traditional means and write articulate letters about the value of their support for a democratically chosen Brexit.
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>>78914115
Some chicken restaurant some bitch online was crying over potentially leaving the UK.

PRO TIP: They didn't.
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>>78914012
Hopefully France will follow suit and then Germany as well I can see all hell breaking loose in Geramny soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rcc7xgD2dM

Just look at this , something is very very wrong in the world.
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>>78914379
They're originally from South Africa/Mozambique, not mainland Portugal. That might explain some things.
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>>78908304
He didn't. It's not his bus, he was specifically and explicitly excluded from the vote leave campaign. As usual, leftists accuse all opposition of being the same monolithic group of racists, then get angry when reality dickslaps them.
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Are all the incidents of racism being posted on Twitter real or are they lies being spread by the left to try and prevent a Brexit.

It all seems a bit ridiculous.
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>>78906629
Lol they are mad?
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>>78915139
A few a real, more are false flags by leftists themselves, the overwhelming majority (51%) are outright fabrications.
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>>78915139
Mix of banter being taken out of context and exaggerated, a few made up stories, and actual racists/xenophobes believing it when lefties say "brexit means the racists won".
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>>78915139
Mostly leftist propaganda also don't forget who owns all the media.
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>>78915360
Guys we will keep it up on vote till we win
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A little something from /co/ i'm sure pol can make a few good Brexit/Bremain ones
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>>78915545

>Remainiacs
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>>78910021
>"We're sending a shit ton of money to the EU every day, we should invest it in our own country instead."
>"What people need are Schools, Hospitals, and GPs."

>This is somehow promising a figure of £350m/week for the NHS
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>>78916204

Don't even expect Leftist globalists to operate in truth; they recreate "truth" in order to destroy the world.
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>>78915994
Oh no the leftist cuck horse is still well alive.
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>>78916204
I love how the cucks try to say well the EU pays back some of the money so it's all ok lol

It's like well ok so the EU still stakes more than it gives back stupid leftists.
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>>78916166
that's a proposition, not a promise, coming from a campaign nigel wasn't part of.
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>>78916166
>implying Farage was part of vote leave
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speaking of things put on busses
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NEVER apologize to leftists, if he didn't say it, he shouldn't back it.

He should instead say "I will do my best to secure as much funding for the NHS as possible."

Then if they press him, tell them "well I'll tell you what, I'm doing my best for the British people and you wankers are here tossing off about how I may only secure 349.9 million dollars, so piss off and learn to accept the results, got it? Ok DEAL WITH IT"
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>>78916930
Leftists they must be stopped
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>>78916930
All he needs to say is "I didn't promise that you bloody tossers. That was Boris and the Vote Leave group. All I said was we should invest the money spent on the EU on our own people. You want to bitch about specifics take it up with Boris.
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>>78916709
IFKR, these are the people who claim to be educated and informed about politics yet they don't even know who the leader of Vote Leave was!

>>78916166
>boris johnson
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>>78908115

Simple reason. The NHS has been struggling slightly, mainly blamed upon the service not being able to cope with the rising population. (In reality, it's more to do with consultants having stupidly high wages for a public sector job). As such, politicians said that immigrants were to blame, and the unwashed lapped it up.

The leave campaign also ran with a campaign stating that by leaving the EU. We would have all this extra free money, which we could use to fix the NHS.

At some point, the 350million number started to get thrown around, which is the amount we send to the EU on a weekly basis. At which point, the leave campaign stated that we could build a hospital every week with that money (Not a "we will", but more to put into context just how much 350million is to the plebs)

This, somehow got some traction with the plebs, and well, they internally changed the statement to "If we leave the EU, then every week we'll give the NHS that money instead" Which, given just how fucking thick most plebs are, is easy to understand how they ended up at that incorrect assesment.

Of course, the leave campaign saw this as votes, and were in no rush to correct them. While remainians are now throwing a paddy saying that the leave campaign "lied" and that people voted based on a lie.

This isn't the case at all, most plebs voted leave because they are racist, and this gave them an excuse to act the way they wanted. It's not a ground to start a 2nd ref on.
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>>78906629
That bus doesn't imply the full 350 was going to go into the NHS.
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>>78918629
It never fucking did, you would have to be some sort of media shill trying to smear people by putting words in their mouths or retarded to think it does.
The worst part is that it wasn't even ARE NIGE's ad, yet he takes the lefty flak for "lying to the voters!!!"
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>>78916166
na bro hes just standing next to it, doesnt mean he accepts the message haha leavers will do anything to defend their retarded leavers that dont even have a plan now that they won
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>>78907900
That looks fake.

Not saying it is fake, but Boris looks sharp af but the lettering looks like it's been compressed to facebook and back.
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>>78914115
>He doesn't have a cheeky nandos with the lads

Wew lad
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>>78914115

KFC for people who think they're too good for KFC
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>>78914472

These commies are going to kill themselves when Britain becomes great again, and those nationalistic feels start to kick in unavoidably...
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>>78921308
>muh arbitrary tribalism
Go back to stone age pls.
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>>78921484

communism is tribalism, nigger.
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>>78921308
Commies wanted brexit, they cant have a communist state in EU.

Remember commies do exist and they are far from the right wing idea of them
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>>78906884

Not ignorance. Just compulsive propagada and slander.
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>>78921670
>communism is tribalism
>but also somehow against human nature
wew

Also, Communism seems to be the exact opposite of tribalism. No arbitrary distinctions based on how one feels about his or her genetics, property is owned by the commune for the common good of the people etc.

It seems as though we've become less tribalistic from the start of feudalism to capitalism and eventually Communism will rid us of it.

Also what >>78921860 said, though some socialists believe that the Brexit push was done for the wrong reasons (desires for a "chocolate box" golden-age Britain without those pesky migrants from the older generation, xenophobia and feels).
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>>78922020
Not him, but any 'ism' involving a group uniting is tribalism. Your 'tribe' is communists and you hate those not in the tribe. Seems pretty clear to me famalam.

I would think the only reason a Brit communist would support Brexit is because they want to impose their own leadership in the communist power structure. They can't do that if they have to support whoever the EU chooses as its leader.

Brexit is obviously the best choice for a nationalist, hands down, but also has the best opportunity to fight serious communism with an already existing power structure (as opposed to little faggot commie groups that mean nothing).
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>>78906833
It doesn't even say all of the £350 mil

Why do Remaintards have such shit reading comprehension?
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>>78923102
why do they think Nigel Farage has any bearing, no one voted for leave because Farage said this or that. He's not an MP and has no mandate as he himself has said explicitly many times.
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>>78923355
That too, fuck I hate how they made his name a Buzzword, poor Lad.
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>350mil goes to EU every week
>we could fund the NHS instead
>this means that all 350mil will instead go to the NHS
>it couldn't possibly mean that a portion of that 350mil will go to the NHS while other portions of the 350mil goes to fund other services

Leftyfag logic.
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>>78907404
No, its just normal English female mate.
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>>78912908
It remained in the the lot.
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>>78921860

EU is a communist system.

>>78922020
>communism is tribalism
>but also somehow against human nature

You're a real human bean.

Christian Nationalists defend civilization, we're way past tribal cults.
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>>78908267
FREEDOM
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