Red pill time.
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Time for a huge red pill: Lucifer/Satan is more moral in the Bible than God.
Lucifer never killed anyone. God killed tons of people with a giant flood.
Lucifer rebelled against God, but maybe he had a good reason? He got 1/3rd of the Angels in Heaven to rebel too. Obviously his reasoning for rebelling had some credence.
What's up with Satan getting so much blame all the time too? Humans supposedly have free will. How do we know that evils in society aren't solely the personal responsibility of the individuals involved? Can't people do bad shit without Satan tempting/leading them to do it?
- Satan never killed anyone.
- Gets a lot of blame that he doesn't deserve.
- God allows Satan to exist. Mind you God could've just gotten rid of him. I think this shows that God likes Satan on some level. Don't we all know someone like this? Someone who is a pain in our ass but we kinda like the person. I think God must view Satan in that way.
No Because roach repellent
>>78755759
Didn't Lucifer personally kill Job's family, rob him blind and made his life a living hell with sickness and all?
God IS moral. By definition. Satan is an agent of god, in other words he is a mere transfiguration of an aspect of god. If such a thing has the capacity of having a different morality than god then by the very definition of morality it can only be a lesser morality.
>>78756318
Good is to Evil as Light is to Darkness. Goodness is a thing that is real, whereas Evil is only an abstract concept defined by the absence of that which IS. A world without Evil would be a world without definition. An infinite (or perhaps finite) realm of indistinct light throughout its entire scope. While it is within God's power to create such a realm, He created our world as a world of complex form and movement.
>>78755759
I was born and raised Christian. Still am. But when I raise these same questions with other Christians, they accuse me of having "little faith," tell me that God crashing this plane with no survivors was part of His plan, or "REEEEE GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS, DON'T EVER QUESTION THE LORD AGAIN!!! :DDD"
But ever since Job, I've wondered. Gambling is a sin, yet God gambled with Satan on his soul. A MAN'S SOUL. How is this permissible? How is it overlooked?
>>78756650
Only under orders from God.
>>78755759
FYI Lucifer isn't satan, this is a myth popularized by entertainment. Lucifer is actually just some random ass king in the bible, he is not satan.
>>78755759
>trusting the devil
>ever
explain yourself
>>78756318
Without evil we cannot know good
>>78755759
This is now a good guy Lucifer thread
God is omnimax. That means maximal in every aspect. Infinite (capacity for) good, as well as evil. Satan is the human attempt to reconcile expressions of God's occasional brutality with his general loving demeanor.
That can make God sound like a psychopath. But put yourself in his shoes. There's a bunch of cute babies in front of you. You cannot help but love them. Except sometimes one of the babies starts doing fucked up shit, even for adult standards. Stuff you can't ignore. Rape, torture, stuff like that. It hurts to watch.
But eventually they grow up enough that you can't step in to dole out punishments and set things right because they are old enough to make their own mistakes and live their own lives. You just lay in wait, ensuring that there is eventually payback for all cumulative wrongs and that everything is set right in the end.
God is a tsundere
There's no such thing as angels and demons, at least none that exist outside of your own identity, but too few of you are ready for this revelation especially since it hints at information time travel.
>>78756318
Literally the "why can't I have ice cream for dinner" argument.
Oh, and >>>/x/
>>78755759
Free will is great and all, but humans were too desperate and selfish back then that some angels decided to get involved. They knew what they're about to do was treason, they knew they will be labeled as fallen, etc.
They mostly followed lucifer but they all had their own reasons to sacrifice their place in heaven, founding kingdoms, philosophies and religions that they believe would fix humanity.
Eventually the rebellion was quelled, humanity matured a bit, and all the fallen disappeared, there is no more lucifer, only free will remained.
With free will preserved, heaven continues to watch over humanity.
The rebellion was orchestrated to change humanity, every angel that became fallen was created with aspects that would help them choose their human siblings over themselves and their laws.
You could say that the rebellion was a manifestation of God's willingness to put aside all his plans because of his love for humanity.
>>78755759
>killing people is wrong
Nice b8 m8
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