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Second Referendum Petition FRAUD


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Someone edited the second BREXIT petition json file between 10:00pm and 10:30pm.

Second referrendum petition:
>https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

Javascript code for data storage of the second referrendum petition:
>https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

Internet archive page of the .json code:
>http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

>Open "find" then type GB to locate number
>Add on on hour to waybackmachine times to get UK times.
>I've already fixed the times below

16:35 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625153506/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

21:21 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625202143/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

23:01 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625220110/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

>first and second: the UK signature updates like normal from 354,634 to 365,483 in 5 hours
>second and third: in less than 2 hours and the number exploded from 365,483 to 2,401,768 from the UK

>"but OP, this could be a conspiracy theory and 2.1 million really did sign in 2 hours."

I've already thought of that:

This is the signature page:
>http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

20:00 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625190047/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
2,205,213 signatures

22:45 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625214559/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
2,520,285 signatures

23:14 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625221449/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
2,572,155 signatures

Above three prove that the signature count did not increase by number signing in the two hour explosion.

Someone edited the file at a point within the two hours. The edit was between 10:10pm and 10:30pm.

Who's got their hand in the cookie-jar /pol/?
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First of all, keep documenting everything, and don't rely on web.archive.org to document it for you. If web.archive.org has it documented, save the website data

save all the data, save everything

Don't let them cover it up
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more here >>78726820
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>>78732598
Good job but the petition means literally nothing anyway
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>>78732598
thank you for your hard work brit keep it up
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>>78732598
bump for happening
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>>78733930
Gotta keep records of fishy bullshit.
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>>78734217
Yeah OP's done well, I suppose the fact that all this is going on is an even quicker way to shut down the teary remainers that actually did sign this
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Send your findings to news outlets, OP. Especially ones like Breitbart London who would be willing to expose such a scam. If enough conservative sources report the scam, the mainstream media will be forced to acknowledge it, too.
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>>78734805

UK MP's have been informed.
A few British and American news outlets have been informed.

I assume they'll ignore it as a 'conspiracy theory' despite the proof being undeniable.

Might I add, the edit was done barely a few minutes after I contacted them about suspicious numbers on the json file (as in only 16% were from within the UK).

To be honest, I'm probably a dead man walking.

GCHQ will no doubt have me scrubbed out.
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>>78735453

>how can X even compete?
>bump limit, page 1, might as well be stickied

>proof that the government is conspiring
>9 replies, page 9

>mfw I just threw away my life for a 9 reply thread on a tiwaneese fingerpainting forum
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>>78737025
I'm sure this is what they're going to take you out for
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>>78737025
Not letting you die so soon m8
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>>78737025
I got you covered familia https://twitter.com/turbofaggots/status/746854203398692864
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>>78732598
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>>78737025
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The petition is on the front pge of the telegraph tomorrow
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>>78732598

Dont let this shit slide faggots.

Document all of this because globalist kikes are all assmad and hell bent on extending their dirty paws all over europe.
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>The petition bot is using the postcode SW1A 0AA

>it's the Palace of Westminster
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>>78732598
I knew they'd pull some shit
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What so we do with this info? How do we best use it? OP said he already contacted the media, but what if they ignore him? We gotta tighten the info up and spread it
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>The trip is just so you can identify me if I find something later (I'll only use it if absolutely necessary, so probably never again)

Here's my story.
>browsing /pol/
>threads about the second referendum
>people talk about json file and show how to display list of signs by counties
>I contact media outlets and MPs, including a guide on how to find these numbers themselves
>within a few minutes of sending the email the file changes
>thank God some anons saved it on archive.org
>able to prove that the file was modified
>send a second email attached to my first explaining what happened along with the evidence
>tell /pol/ with this thread

That's pretty much it.
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Don't worry - Juncker won't let it happen. Since he's not being let go, he will keep up his end of the bargain.

Remainfags are cucked :^)
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Would it be worth reporting it to these bellends?
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>>78732598
I am not going to let this be slided.

EVERYONE IN LADS. THIS NEEDS TO GO UP. UP. UP.
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>>78739179

good work
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>>78732598
>{"name":"Vatican City","code":"VA","signature_count":11023}
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>>78739179
You saved democracy
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If we have another referendum leave will win by a fucking landslide.
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>>78739448
kekked
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>>78732598

WELL SHERLOCK A SYRIAN HACKER TOLD HERE HE DID.

HE TOLD HE ADDED VOTES FROM THE VATICAN...

.VA tld
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>>78739649
I actually doubt this.
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>>78739179
I hope you ain't bullshittin' m8
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BUMP

Thread is being slid right now
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huh... this... really... made... me... think...
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>>78739707
I actaully think the referendum was rigged, but not rigged enough. I actually had a dream where Cameroon hung himself with the suicide note 'I should have rigged it more'
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>>78732598
Bump.

>seems important.
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>>78739707
Why?

Remainers are furious at their side's reaction, many of them are saying they'd vote leave.

Literally the reverse of what the media has been shoving down our throats

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/746820394217259008
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>>78732598
Bump
Do not slide
Archive and screen-cap this
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>>78732598
hump
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>>78739063
Breitbart might report on this? Probably a good idea to message this stuff to Allum Bokhari or someone
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>>78732841
This is important, OP. Don't count on it being preserved. If you really care, use something like page vault, it stands up in court.
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>>78737025
I've got your back OP, I go through this shit all the time. Although nothing nearly requiring as much devotion as what you have done here.

Could you give me a tl;dr? I haven't been here all day...And our conversation will keep the thread bumping along.
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>>78739952
I'm not so sure.
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>>78732598
>>78732841

Got other archives -
16:35 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625153506/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json
>https://archive.is/aVQuY

21:21 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625202143/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json
>https://archive.is/dTAgk

23:01 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625220110/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json
>https://archive.is/lcdlb

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SIGNATURE PAGE


20:00 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625190047/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
>https://archive.is/F3ry3
2,205,213 signatures

22:45 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625214559/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
>https://archive.is/MjpDd
2,520,285 signatures

23:14 on 25/06/2016:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20160625221449/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
>https://archive.is/1doRh
2,572,155 signatures

Not sure if this helps
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>>78732598
{"name":"North East Somerset","ons_code":"E14000846","mp":"Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg MP","signature_count":4454}

REEE
REEE
REEE
DON'T FUCK THE THE MOGG
REEE
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>>78737025
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Bumpity bump
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>>78739905
>'I should have rigged it more'
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>>78737727
>sent 4chan links

Smart one dickhead.
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Have a bump OP. I;m going to bed because I'm knackered but I'll do something on this tomorrow, maybe email it to a few news outlets
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>>78739179
Can more anons send this to more news outlets? Can someone provide a simple copypaste way to do this? I will help.
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>>78739286
Try it, see what happens.

Might get some bellends to lose faith in lefties.
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>>78738379
Holy shit

They made an Absolutely Fabulous movie?
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>>78732598

Doing god's work, fellow countryman.
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ELLO ELLO ELLO WOS GOIN ERE DEN?
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>>78740313

On my phone but here goes.
>Brexit wins
>Second referendum petition started
>News outlets all over the world spam articles: antibrexit, people made a mistake in voting and change their minds, they were uninformed (Google searches), etc.
>Articles about 2million signatures
>/pol/ gets into json data file and find out number of votes per country
>UK is something like 16%
>Media have been shilling false statistics to try and undermine brexit and get a revote to keep up in the EU

See for the rest of the story
>>78739179
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bumperino for justice
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>>78732598

Wait, but the json still shows other countries. What are they changing? WHO is changing it?
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>>78741075
Nothing.
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>>78737025
Don't worry op, you can always come to the cuckstraila.
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>>78741086
>pol get into json data file
Literally displayed at the bottom of the page.
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have a pitty bump but I don't really give a shit about cuckland or the eu as a whole
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Can someone give me the burger education version of what's going on?
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>>78741239
ALL RITE DEN CARRY ON MY SEMETIC FRIEND
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>>78741185

We don't know

But it's not s single person

There's a group pulling strings, and they're big

Whoever they are, they're monitoring emails to @gov.co.uk, and have extremely fast response times
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>>78741306
See
>>78741140
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>>78741306
>Can someone give me the burger education version of what's going on?

"In" losers are butt-hurt, created some sort of bullshit petition calling for there to be another vote. Petition website is being spammed with fake votes (you can access the raw data).
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>>78741086
How do I help? I want to help, so do other anons but we don't know what to do. Just tell us man, we are with you. What do you want us to send and to who? Who do we email this to or whatever?
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>>78741416
>>78741482
Thanks have another bump OP.
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>>78741306
>democracy isn't right when it's raycist n shit
>if only you could vote via social media
>look how many younh people signed this online petition
>see, it wouldn't have won
>revote REEEE
>petition is littered with online bot accounts outside the UK
>Ministry IT try to scrub source code to make it look like there were 1.5 million brits who signed it
>/pol/ is losing their shit
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>>78741562
Save the .json files, send them to as many Media outlets as you can. Piers Morgan might be an idea. If someone could bring this to Trump's attention then it might get serious traction.
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To the top
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Bump, not gonna let democracy die
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>>78741086
>>78741562

This. I voted to Remain - yes, I know, cuck etc. - but a democratic vote is a democratic vote.

This can't be allowed to happen. Even if only 5 million vote, even it's just 5 million of the losing side, an illegitimate petition like this cannot be allowed to go unscathed.

I regret that my own political views align with those of mad liberals. I always thought people would try and be rational but this clearly not the case.

Well-earned win, Brexit, I just hope, for justice's sake, you keep a firm hold of it.
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>>78737025

Shills reply to those threads to slide.
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Spam other threads, copypaste this:

Second Brexit Referendum Petition FRAUD
>>78732598
Do not let it slide /pol/

I created a thread on /b/:
>>>/b/691524511
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>>78741562

Email news outlets

Make sure everyone knows that the proof is undeniable

We've caught the government changing signatures for government petitions, we can't let this go, it may be our only chance to catch them undermining democracy

News outlets like Washington post, etc

A lot will ignore it, eg guardian and BBC will take no notice

I've told Farage, Borris, Gove, and some other PMs

I told Daily Mail, Washington Post, and a few others.

Think of viable news outlets, look up contact info and email them

Include the links to archive and make sure they understand the proof
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>>78739063
Yeah just spam it to breitbart writers. Even infowars if you absolutely have to. They'll at least get it out there. Even rt they report on shit like this.
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Holy shit the last time /pol/ got slid this hard it was during the shillary investigations. Guaranteed we're on to something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_3D4b3UZM
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>>78739448
http://archive.is/2ctr8#selection-1267.0-1230.23
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Bumping with Euros being weird

https://youtu.be/wu7zrjAL10c
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>>78742527
So does that mean that there is supposedly 11k votes from Vatican city, or signed as from vatican city?
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If this is really happening, and if your goal is to get the word out, here's how you should do it...

1. Create a blog or a web page that outlines what is going on, which includes multiple screenshots showing the manipulation.

2. Post the link to that blog or web page here.

3. All of us submit that link to the Drudge Reports' "tip line"

If enough people send the same link, someone at his site will notice. And this is the sort of thing he lives for.
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>>78741770
>>78742175
One of you guys make a list of email addresses and a copy pasteable message, and I will email every single one with two accounts.

I know other anons will also if you provide those two things.
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The only thing reassuring me about this is that the response is only a fraction of the remain vote's turn out, for now. Hopefully it won't go too high...
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I emailed Milo.
Others should, too.
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I emailed Milo.
Others should, too.
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>>78742686
We first need a clear explanation of what is happening, some kind of infographic to explain it all.
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>>78742877
Ignore my dual post, mobile app screws up sometimes
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>>78732598
Kim is not impressed
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>>78742679
Yes, this, so much this. Someone needs to create a page that is well put together and easy to understand.

We also need a clear concise message to send in the email.

The post a list of email addresses to send it to.

If someone streamlines the process like this, not only will it be easier and more anons will join in, but it will also be more efficient.

I have made this suggest at least 5 times now.
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>>78742686

I'm on my phone at this point, it's 2AM, but I can't sleep. This is crazy, I never thought the government could be caught like this.

I'll be watching this thread for a while, but there's little I can contribute since I can't type well like this.
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>>78740909
>>78740909

These may help, too. It's clear evidence that some people are at least giving out their postcodes to facilitate false votes.

To be honest I have a hard time following the OP, a clear, easy to read and referenced infografic would be great.
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>>78742977
Nice. Expose this /pol/!
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>>78732598
Nothing will happen. The same thing happened when David Cameron got in government. Apparently even the Conservative party is too "xenophobic" and "nazi" for these art school nobodies.
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BUMP 4 JUSTICE!
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>>78732598
Fuckin' brilliant, dude.

So what's the chance this petition will result in any action?

What's the legal basis for doing a "do over" on the referendum just because some butthurt people expressed their displeasure on a government web page?
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Don't forget this of course. If that 1% thing is really true then this man is responsible for more than 1 million of the fake votes

https://archive.is/2ctr8
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>>78743032

>>78741051
and
>>78740909

rather
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>>78743118
Spread it around goy, my dubs don't lie!!
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>>78742883

I'll do one in the morning, but someone should do one now to spam Twitter

Make it nice and simple and put the links at the bottom.

Tell them the number changes for the UK and how it jumped suddenly.
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>>78732598
Honestly? Good. Anything that keeps the racists from winning.
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There's been a script to bot this for almost an entire day.

http://pastebin.com/rgiiPbww

I don't know where or who started it, but the current task is to pump up unbelievable stats for Vatican City
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standard co uk/news/politics/eu-referendum-claims-petition-for-second-referendum-is-rigged-as-it-storms-past-two-million-a3280971.html
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>>78742977

We need these without all the /pol shit.

Just the chart with the highlights.

If people start posting /pol shit in the normal world, no one is going to take it seriously.

But /pol shit that looks like normal shit... that's an entirely different story.
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Alright, as i have no social media, this is the best i could think of.

Come here and upvote the fuck out of my comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZ9EIOQzXU [Embed]

Stefan reads comments and responds to them.

And his fans are autistic enough to do something about this. This will get the word out, he has 400k subscribers.
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So I checked the JSON file and it changed from the pic to showing that over 2 million people from the UK did indeed sign it. What happened?
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>>78739179
good
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>>78732598
There is meme magic and then there are smart individuals like this guy. gj
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>>78737025
What the fuck do you expect us to do now?

Sadly nearly nobody has a position of power or can spread the knowledge to a massive amount of people.
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>Tfw alive when both the USSR and EU crumbled
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Is it possible that the petition updates irregularly? Like in batches?
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>>78743195

This will be discussed in parliament, which is why we need to contact MPs to make sure they can toss it out. If the parliament discuss this and agree it's a good idea, it may very well happen. And next time, they'll make sure Brexit loses - no more fuck ups.

We need to stop them before they reverse Brexit.

>>78743364
>(You)
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I think the telegraph and other polls on if there should be anotehr vote is being manipulated too.

Originally it was 80% 20% for leaving the EU.

This new poll has revote at 68% for with 100K+ signitures. Totally at odds with the previous polls for the telegraph audience.
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>>78743733
I don't think so. I watched a guy pump Kyrgyzstan from 1 to 33 in real time.
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>>78733930
my favorite meme
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>>78732598
Send this to news outlets, especially Breitbart.
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>>78743531

Your comment is gone m8
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>>78743733

No

Read the evidence

It covers all loopholes.

That one is explained early on
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>>78743700
its a good feel man
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>16m voted remain
>people are surprised when a petition gets 3m from the 16m that wanted to remain
It doesn't even matter how many sign up, it'll be debated on Tuesday and be denied because Parliament doesn't have control over whether to hold a new ref or not. Cameron does and he already said he won't and is already leaving as a PM and would be absolutely tarnish his reputation even more to defy democracy.
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>>78743751
How about flooding it with fake signatures? Have them all come in from a foreign IP address, 1000 in a row all with the same postal code, etc., to increase the suspicious nature of it.
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>>78743534
Soros strikes back.
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>>78732598
Hey OP this might be relevant:
http://archive.is/2ctr8
It was going up 10,000 a minute around the time of the thread
Also bump
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>>78743830
You saw a guy vote from Kyrgyzstan in real-time? Huh this petition is strange then. Maybe /pol is on to something
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>>78743978
Also it's so obviously being botted it would be stupid to think 2.7m real individuals signed it.

The number is increasing at like 100 per 5s which is not even legitmately human.
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Have a bump. Good work OP.
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>>78744104
They'll just edit the file again like they did before

Deleting foreign listings and replacing then with UK lists
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>>78743937
No it isn't. It is at the top of my list because I posted it.

To find it go to "Newest First" and scroll down until you see it. It isn't that far down, 18 minutes ago.
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>>78732598

>only 2 million in a petition

We had 17.5 million in our Leave-EU petition
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>>78743978
>people are supprised when a petition gets 3m signatures from the 500 people living in vatican
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>>78744142

see >>78739873
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>>78743937
You're right, it is gone....WTF?

Someone else try to post it there.
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Can somebody please post the farage where he says believing in britain, i do that

the rap battle one
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So this is the thread you autists have been spamming about. It's a petition you cocksucking morons, find something else to cry about
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>>78744283
At this rate it will be twice as much in a couple of days.
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>>78741761

Clearly a Brexit isn't enough.

The leftists and gov want to install a totalarian orwellian state where we can have "neverendums" until they get their way.

Camerons resigning and such were all a ploy to make the government look innocent in all of this while they frame the moderate "remainers"
and encourage the extreme remainers.

I wanted freedom. Still do.
Freedom for all.

But these people are trying to take that away, so why should they have it either? Revolution when?
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>>78744552
>tfw shadow banned
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>>78744426
Yeah. I'm starting to get an odd feeling. The petition moves by 50-60 votes every 5-6 seconds. That's seems fairly indicative of a bot
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>>78743531
Don't see it bro
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>>78744785

It's several bots.

Here's the python script to one of them.

http://pastebin.com/rgiiPbww

Anyone that uses this should change the location from GB to Vatican City for maximum keks
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>>78744610

Is this bait?

Did you even read anything?

Someone is directly modifying signatures.

>mfw I'm responding to 0/10 bait
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>>78744669
Fucking #proudtobe video. All I posted was that Islamic countries execute gays and fund hillary.
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>>78743531
Private message it to stefan. Put it on his forum.
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Bumpu
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>>78744937
Yeah, its not there, I checked with another account. But it is visible on mine, so I must be shadow banned. Someone else needs to do it while the view count is low so we can get the most people to see it.
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>>78744947
How do you use the script?
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Keep this shit bumped.

Don't let the scum get away with it.
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>>78745001
Who cares?

>mfw it turns out nothing shady was going on and /pol/tards freaked out over nothing
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>>78744611
>At this rate it will be twice as much in a couple of days.

Wouldn't surprise me dude, luckily it all pointless and Brexit is already in motion
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>>78745297

bait then....
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>>78745064
That's pretty racist mate
Message stephen on his forum bump
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Tin foil hat brigade strikes again, a 3nd EU refferendum is the only way to go
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In OPs summary, the first snapshot he says is 354,634 votes which I assume he got from this line:

{"name":"United Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":354634}

Why is the Json filled up with so much other shit? For example:

"Oliver Dowden MP","signature_count":3349},

Hes signed it 3349 times? What?
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>>78745297
gee, i wonder
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>>78745297

There is undeniable proof.

>-1/10 bait

This one doesn't deserve an image

I'd put it lower but you got me to respond twice so I'll give you that.
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>>78744610
>>78745297
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"Boris Johnson MP","signature_count":4202
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>>78745382
Its not though. Cameron isn't going to trigger article 50, meaning a new PM will have to. Which means a new election. Lib dems are already promising a mandate of NO BREXIT, as will labour.

There is actually a good chance of this not happening.
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>>78737025
i got you, bruh
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>>78745417
>>78745543
>>78745578

This is what you get for spamming other threads.
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>>78732598
Justice will prevail the Brits will stay out
>made this for u
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>>78745592
>the UK has become a country where 4202 people imposter as Boris Johnson to undermine democracy

Holy fuck guys, you need a civil war.
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>>78745218
You need Python installed for starters. You need to download mechanize and temp-mail

https://github.com/saippuakauppias/temp-mail/blob/master/tempmail.py


if you can run pip

pip install mechanize
pip install temp-mail

run script and it runs until you stop it.
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>>78745712

Don't look at me, I linked from one thread talking about changes to the json file to here which has the evidence

Other than that I've only stayed here.

>I responded again
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>>78732598
This is awesome, great work you're doing here.

... I just wonder if this is even worth making trouble about, do you honestly think some fucking petition is going to revert the referendum?
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A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said manipulation of the petition would not be a matter for police and that no formal allegations have been received
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>>78745780

>mfw 4201 imposters and Borris is just doing it for the bants
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Heads up on the first media source picking up on the fraud...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eu-referendum-claims-petition-for-second-referendum-is-rigged-as-it-storms-past-two-million-a3280971.html
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Can someone make 1000s of people vote from Somalia? That would make for a good kek
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>>78732841
Quick ways to archive pages:

https://web.archive.org/save/{URL}
https://archive.is/?run=1&url={URL}

Even quicker with bookmarklets (right click Chrome bookmark bar, click 'Add page' and paste text into url box):

javascript:void(open('https://web.archive.org/save/'+document.URL))

javascript:void(open('https://archive.is/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))
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>>78745218

It's kind of tough if you don't have experience.

First, you'll need to install python.

Then, you'll need to look at the script's source code and see all the "import" declarations at the top.

Some of those packages are non-standard (like "tempmail"), so you'll need to find and install those python packages.

And you might not even have a python package installer program ("pip"), so you'll need to install that program first before you can even install the aforementioned packages.

I played around with it for about a minute, and I realized that I don't have the time to track down all the pieces and parts that I would need to run it, because I'm only a very casual python user.

It's probably best to find someone who uses python quite regularly and ask them to run it. Otherwise you'll have a steep learning curve, and a bunch of things to figure out on your own.
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>>78745908

They discuss it in parliament. I don't think anything this serious has ever gone through this process before

I don't know what they're up to, all I know is that they're doing it.

I don't know why or how this even helps them that much.

It could be a desperate last attempt?
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>>78746124
>that poll on the website

DEMOCRACY GUISE TOTALLY NOT LIVING IN A DICTATORSHIP
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If these online petitions meant shit and a 2nd referendum was actually going to happen ever Cameron wouldn't have resigned already.
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>>78746447
DELET THIS
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>>78737025


Doing the right thing sucks, but if it needs to be done someones got to do it. Godspeed man.
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Is OPs analysis definitely accurate?

Im trying to clear it up in my head to make sure and its as follows:

Signature_count = the total number of signatures on the entire thing, this includes countries outside of the UK.

The GB signature_count is votes from within the UK.

16:35 signature_count":1765889 || {"name":"United Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":354634}

21:21 signature_count":2367548 || {"name":"United Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":365483}

23:01 signature_count":2547875 || {"name":"United Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":2401768}

These numbers don't make any sense, the GB sig count suddenly jumps up by around 2 million from between 21:21 and 23:01 but the total signature count doesn't increase by a corresponding amount. Does this mean non UK votes were converted into UK votes?
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Night lads, it's nearly 3AM.

Make me proud /pol/.
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>>78746713
yes
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I want to help but i have no clue how, don't let Democracy down /pol/
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>>78746713

First paragraph in my post shows two things:
>1. the json file updates normally
>2. there was a massive spike in UK votes. We're talking from a few hundred thousand to more than two million.

The second explanation proves another thing:
>Despite this spike, the number of signatures did not change by even close to this quantity

This means votes were converted.

Someone directly modified the file

Read my story, I explain it happens very shortly after I inform MPs and media
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>>78746745
farewell op,
hoping you won't get v&
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>>78746713

My guess is they saw the bot spam and just approved it. Most of it isn't showing up in the coverage map still so it was likely bad data with just the country code.
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>>78747197
Ok im just trying to wrap my head around it. Have you factored in the MP constituency totals? Do they have any bearing? Is that what they even are?
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really makes you think
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>>78732598
Here's a bump for doing God's work.
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>>78745659
>There is actually a good chance of this not happening.

No there isn't, we're going dude, EU/Junker have already shown their true colours, at best we'll accept Merkels offer, UK just want to settle things and our economy before 50 is triggered, Junker wants it now and thats not going to happen.
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>>78745248
Oh god I'm dying.
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>>78745248

SPREAD THIS SHIT

POL NEEDS TO SEE THIS
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>>78732598

Both referendums are non-binding. They have no legal power. Government is not compelled to enforce.act on them.

The outcome is in hands of politicians and Parliament.

So stay calm and carry on.
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>>78743769
>google

jeez.

I bet they use Windows too.
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>>78739448 SEE >>78739691
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>>78748310
The federal government uses Microsoft products exclusively.
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>>78732598
Some Syrian guy posted saying he was fucking with the script, submitted like 5000 signatures from Vatican city.
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>>78748877
>http://archive.is/2ctr8
It's at 16k now.
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I'm not a very helpful person, but here's the contact information for several news outlets. Be articulate, be true, don't sperg out. Lets make Soros cry.

Throwaway Email site
https://www.guerrillamail.com/

Places to spam emails at
http://www.bbc.com/news/10725415
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/10/14/contact-us.html
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
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>>78737025
No. Many people are paying attention. The reason those threads have more replies is that there are more shills than non shills.
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>>78748382
>>78739691
Either of you have any screencaps? This is from the same thread
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>>78748877
He should do more North Korea ones, or China. Those have my sides explode laughing.
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>>78737025
here to help
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Are they doing this for the 'lulz' or are they serious?
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Lol there on here monitoring you fuckers
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>>78743530
make your own infographic then faggot that was meant for /pol/
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>>78749699
It appears to have been serious at first but now it's so bizzare (3m from Holy See) it has to be lulz.
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>>78732598
So the liberals want a "do-over"
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>>78733930
Why the fuck does Norwich get a flag and Ipswich doesn't, fucking bullshit
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>>78748973
The absolute madman
I can't find his thread in the /pol/ archives though and it doesn't look like anyone has screen caps
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>>78749699

If they're doing it seriously, they didn't do it very well. the Vatican isn't interested.
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>>78743534
Easy, find out who has the ability to manipulate a JSON file on the site. Spam the site with tips and tell media about it. The tips already came in, and if no investigation is done then the site suffers for being a scam. The media has a field day if it's someone working for the company.
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>>78751080
It was some Syrian guy who was posting on pol at like 4:00pm Eastern time
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>>78750494
Just like union votes.
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>>78751242
he is not talking about some syrian autist just botting signatures from vatican

he is talking about changing 2 fucking million foreign signatures into GB, in the file provided by the site
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JOIN THE CHAT LADS

We are NOT going to take this shit lying down. I'm compiling a list, but we still need a digestible master template. Get the fuck in here!
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>>78751564
The Syrian guy was doing it, Idk how
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>>78744562
4u babe
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>>78751772
What chat?
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https://github.com/alphagov/e-petitions/commit/8ae55cc26209e7ac1c7308c607d8cc7553f90af4

This is what the response is, that it's to do with overloading
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>People being this retarded
The json was stuck at ~3XX,XXX for literally hours, I was in the earlier threads. The petition was getting 10,000 votes per minute, but the votes per country weren't going up in the json, and the total votes per country didn't match the total votes.

What probably happened is that it only updates occasionally, or there was some back-end issue. What's clear to anyone with a brain is that the json and the total number of votes don't necessarily coincide at once, and the json lags behind the total.
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>>78744283
Only 400k of that number are from the UK and most come from Scotland.

The rest are all foreign from as far as North Korea and Antarctica.
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>>78745248
This website should require National Insurance Numbers that'll stop fraud have it as one signature per petition for each number.
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>>78752608
Yet vatican is changing constantly. Fuck outta here.
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Working on so graphs, need more data. this is what I got so far.
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>vote on brexit
>vote on brexit re-vote
>vote on re-vote on brexit re-vote

why not
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>>78752608
Yes it does but the json contains an update time and the total votes at that time
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>>78746124
HOLY SHIT.

POST ALL THE DATA AND ARCHIVES TO THEM. IT INCLUDES NAMES OF TRAITOR MP'S ASWELL.

LETS GET THIS SPREAD TO FURTHER MAKE REMAIN GO ON LIFE SUPPORT.

I've sent it to BBC,Sky News, ITV, Al Jazeera and Russia Today aswell as Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Daily Star and The Sun.
They'll ignore one person so having many doing the same will make them click the email to read.
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>>78753134
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>>78752608
>10k a minute
>not rigged

lol.
This petition is on every single far left website across the west. Its so rigged it should be deleted.
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>>78745248

well this certainly seems to prove there's fuckery going on
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>>78751835
Fucking hell, I'm an idiot.
https://discordapp.com/channels/196437405564272641/196437405564272641
https://discordapp.com/channels/196437405564272641/196437405564272641
https://discordapp.com/channels/196437405564272641/196437405564272641

LADS LADS LADS
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>>78753951
yes you are, this is not even an invite link
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>>78753951
wtf is this?

Anybody have a slack channel perhaps?
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>>78754209
>>78754383

...Look, I've never used this shit before. Hate the game, not the player.

https://discord.gg/2eZVc
https://discord.gg/2eZVc
https://discord.gg/2eZVc
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>>78744229

"name":"Vatican City","code":"VA","signature_count":20322

2,000 votes from Vatican City in the last 10 minutes.
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>>78755172

{"name":"North Korea","code":"KP","signature_count":12471}

North Koreans really wanted GB to remain.
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>>78755384

Meanwhile....

{"name":"Russia","code":"RU","signature_count":92}
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>>78755384
Kim is just voting a bunch of different times
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>>78744124
Thanks schlomo
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>>78755384
>Norks caring about the rest of the world, ever
Fucking lying globalist scum.
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>>78732598
S So all the media from yesterday are reporting their mistake?

Also only 33% of the UK population voted to be in the EU (48% of 72%)

London hipsters are narcissistic retards
>>
B U M P
>>
CHECK MEMEBOTS HERE M8S

Vatican city is up to 21000 signatures lol

http://codepen.io/ayylmaom80/full/xOgWPZ/
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>>78732598
Those who have fraudulently signed should be arrested and sent to gitmo
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>>78732598

This thread from earlier might be relevant, OP.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/78706870/#q78706870
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>keep refreshing the petition page watching the bots continue to sign
>jolly good show
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>>78756861
A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said manipulation of the petition would not be a matter for police and that no formal allegations have been received


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eu-referendum-claims-petition-for-second-referendum-is-rigged-as-it-storms-past-two-million-a3280971.html
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Data set on complete bullshit on the way. Graphs to come out after 10 sets have been reached.

Yes its Open office get over it.
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SHUT IT DOWN
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>>78757119
Shameful. I know it's just my childish dream but... I'd love to see countless libtards being bumraped by terrorists.
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I don't think the part of the JSON file with MPs necessariy means that the MP themselves voted that many times.

I think it's supposed to be a breakdown of votes by district, each district represented by an MP.

What would be damning is checking if the total votes for the MP section is the same as the total votes from Great Britain on the upper section, which is vote breakdown by country.
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>>78757493
Consider it
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Some fag posted the bot doing this on kikechan /pol/.
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You guys. I keep posting this in every thread. Its 8cham doing this. They started doing it days ago and got bots to flood the petition with retarded names and locations like the Vatican voting 4000 times their population. The vote is literally going to be thrown out because of how much people fucked with it.
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Is it just me, or is the petition slowing down in gains?
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>>78757195
Vatican is doing shamfur pace 2bh
>>78758469
people probably have stopped botting
I get 20 new sign each iteration, used to be 140-150
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>>78753117
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23041021/how-to-write-some-data-to-excel-file-xlsx
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The votes didn't add up to the amount displayed on the counter. They added up to ~400,000 when this meme started while the counter said over 1 million. The obvious explanation is that they process UK numbers differently from other numbers and the manner in which they update is unstable. Hence why UK's numbers are frozen again, this time at 2401768.

See this pic. The person didn't add up all those numbers. They clearly don't add up to 1,194,001. It's because the UK numbers don't get processed in the same way and didn't update.


Using your own link:

21:21 on 25/06/2016:
http://web.archive.org/web/20160625202143/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

~350k UK votes in then. Look at the results by country. They add up to ~400k. While the petition at about the same time said at least 2,205,213 as you've pointed out. Also, the breakdown by UK constituency seems to add up to about 2 million just eyeballing it. So those numbers also add up to a figure different from ~350k, which is not updating for whatever reason.

I can demonstrate this with scripts, but I don't give enough fucks.
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>>78758904
>I can demonstrate this with scripts, but I don't give enough fucks.
GOT YOU COVERED BOI

http://codepen.io/ayylmaom80/full/xOgWPZ/
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>>78732841
This. Also, it's obvious the fucking petition is signed by people outside the UK, and is therefore invalid.

>>78733930
This. They would literally split the country in 2 if they demanded a 2nd referendum after pic related
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>>78753117
If you write a script to add up the votes in those JSON files (or just look at them and guesstimate), you'll see that the total votes didn't add up to the total displayed on the website. Because the UK votes were making the counter tick up, but weren't being added to the JSON file for whatever reason. Probably because they put UK votes through more scrutiny.
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>>78732598
For the current petition the total great britain votes and the constituency votes seem to match up.

I'm going to try this with the other data.

The script I used is here:
http://pastebin.com/G1seiBtH
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Niggerbim to top lol
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Who benefits from remain?
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>>78759662
(((Not sure)))
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>>78757886
What? To use it on a liberal like you? I would if I could get away with it. :^)
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>>78759343
updated my live script with a running total

http://codepen.io/ayylmaom80/full/xOgWPZ/
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>>78759343
Where did all the foreigners go?

O SHIT
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>>78760051
There are many of oligarchs living in London. Has any of them said anything yet was there any strange meetings?
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>>78760493
And as usual, the script.

http://pastebin.com/40PFMKNn

v3 coming up next. This one will total all the votes in the country section.
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>>78759343
Oh. My. God. The script is wrong. Line 24: gbvotescntsection should be constituencycount

Now, if you use the archived link OP provided us:

http://web.archive.org/web/20160625202143/https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

And modify the code a bit, this is what you see:
453,139 votes for all countries combined.
2,251,993 votes for all constituencies combined.

The constituency numbers were updating fine. The "total UK" numbers weren't. My shitty quick modification of that code: http://pastebin.com/Cqz2CHti
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>>78761229
My mistake. I swear I am not a Jew.

I've added some other numbers that may be interesting.
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Updated my script to include both countries and constituencies

>pic related
lel

http://codepen.io/ayylmaom80/pen/xOgWPZ
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>>78762492
forgot to add pic
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>>78762006
Yes. And now we can see that constituency votes were updating fine and matched the counter while GB votes weren't. Point 4. in your output is an invalid measure of "non-UK" votes - add up all the votes by country except for UK.
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Hopefully this will be the last update from me.
http://pastebin.com/hRnBfRPE

>>78762006
Before you all start freaking out the file was deleted by me because I made a typo.
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>>78762607
Oh, nevermind. That's point 5. That's all you need though. Because it doesn't make sense to subtract point 2. from 3. when it clearly states how many votes it is registering from each country.
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Someone please send this to drudge
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>>78762838
Does drudge like to report correct things? Because I proved this conspiracy false.
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Keep this thread going on all night and shill it in all Brit/pol/ and Brexit threads. Also spread it on social media. As long as you have the archives, you're untouchable.
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>>78762973
The archives contain the information needed to disprove OP's claim.
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For anyone still in this thread.

See this:
> http://codepen.io/ayylmaom80/full/xOgWPZ/
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>>78762650
Welp never mind. I guess this is what being a Jewish accountant feels like.

http://pastebin.com/e5LGaqRR
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>>78762874
No deleting on my watch
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>>78732598
based nige
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>>78763136
>the GB votes aren't updating but every other constituency is
>pure coincidence
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Drudge has a link to send news tips in.
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>>78732598
If they say it's a controversy than there is no stopping them, perceptionism ftw
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>>78763515
Moron. The constituency votes are more specific information and harder to fake. Those add up to correct numbers. The sum of all constituencies wasn't updating for whatever reason. It's a meaningless bug.
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A large amount of these votes from Vatican and shit are coming from a bot thread on cripplechan. It's only a few people and everyone is calling them faggots, but now you know. This time it's not necessarily the government.
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If you add all the signatures by constituency, you will get all the signatures made in the UK

Then if you add the signatures by country, excluding the UK's Signature Count you get quite close numbers (if not higher) according to the petition.

It seems that there is a cron task updating the values every x time so it makes it easier for handling the data.

TL:DR
You should get data for GB's signatures on the "signatures_by_constituency" part not on the "signatures_by_country" part, and then add the results excluding the GB from the countries, to get the precise data from the petition.
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I put together a vote counter to see how the JSON numbers add up.

The new numbers themselves are not suspicious. They didn't remove or add any foreign votes, and British votes were massively underrepresented before. There are fewer votes under countries/constituencies than the total they're claiming, but all petitions on this site seem to have the same problem.

I don't think it's rigged by anyone in the government. But we do know that there are a lot of bots spamming it with votes. Making people aware of that is the best approach for discrediting it, rather than conspiracy theories about why the number jumped up.
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>>78764188
>>78764248
Suddenly two correct people pop into the thread. Thanks fellow shills.
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>>78763871
I think the votes by country are updating slower than the votes by constituency since they have to go through another server meant to filter out fraud (proxies, bots) whereas the vote by constituency might be because the location is self-reported, available immediately and therefore unfiltered (for now). If you look in the bot here >>78743431 you can see that one of the inputs they use for voting is a zip code.


That said, I think you might be right since the numbers seem to add up (+/- small margin of error due to several services updating). What do you think?
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>>78764470

Can we confirm this whole thing debunked?
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>>78764547
Yeah, I agree, but think it's a bit weirder. People were able to make other countries go up in real time. I just think the total UK vote is more scrutinized because it's the one that matters the most. It's not just updating slow. It's frozen for long periods of time.
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>>78763871
>for some reason

>It's a meaningless bug.
You're right, kikes are dirty insects.
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>>78764188
>>78764248

So you are saying the.json file was not edited ?

it jumped from like 500,000 to 2.8 mil explain?
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Have some delicious ass for your trouble.

You boys are doing god's work.
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>>78764869
I've debunked it for myself. I think >>78764248 is a good graphic that does debunk it if you understand what's happening. But I don't really know how much more shilling I can handle. It does bad things to me when people don't understand why they're wrong.
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Also a tip, I used this tool to get the data into a spreadsheet.

http://www.json-xls.com/json2xls

You can input your json and it will give you the assorted spreadsheet that allows you to make your math on top of it.
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>>78765107
There are two sections. One is split up by countries. One only looks at the UK and split up by UK constituency.

If you added up all countries, it only added up to ~400k (while the petition site said total was ~2M) for a while and suddenly jumped up to ~2M when UK's total was updated.

But if you added up UK constituency total, it was correctly adding up to ~2M. Country totals lagged.
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>>78765107

What you see on the Signatures By Country is an outdated value.

When it got updated at around 23:01 (backup time) it got bumped from 365,483 to 2,401,768. accordingly to the Signatures By Constituency

So no, there is no edited data by any human on the json or the database.

What could be happening is someone just feeding false information to the server on other countries, but that isn't affecting the GB votes due to the additional layer of security regarding these.
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>>78765107
the JSON file is generated, it can't be edited.

Falsified voting CAN happen however which is almost a certainty in UK.
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