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>Star Trek TV series to be more graphic
>considering actors for his roles in “a colorblind prism and a gender-blind prism.”
>the series would continue exploring "progressive" themes.
Who is ready for some hard hitting episodes of trans aliens talking about their sex life?
>>78727932
Star Trek already had that shit.
>inb4 sexual organs meme
Enterprise was the gayest shit ever, all I could think while watching it was quantum leap intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjK9GJMBpt0
>>78728004
Yeah, Riker was banging that tranny alien, and that one with the ass forehead.
Hah, this is going to be such a shitshow. Crying will be heard from Gene's grave.
Commander, tell me about your sexual organs.
>>78728172
I don't know what they were thinking with that choice of Captain. They literally could've just hired some no name, ex military commander he he would've blown that shit up. But no, they had to go with the gayest guy ever.
Ready for more based aliens like shran and dukat . Filthy pink skins
>>78728421
I came here to post this
>>78727932
>star trek wasn't always like this
have you seen any episodes of star trek before? the show has always been rooted in logic, but sometimes they sort of jumped the shark with proto-SJW bullshit.
>>78728426
And yet he still managed to be a better captain than Janeway
>>78728742
Janeway is a good captain if you manage to get to the middle-later seasons of Voyager
>>78727932
I am still cautiously optimistic
It can't possibly be worse than what JJ Abrams shat out
>>78728951
JJ Abrams is a hack, and his movies pandered to people who wouldn't like star trek without "muh action scenes".
It's definitely not going to be worse than either of the movies. I'm just hoping it will be like later TNG episodes and First Contact
>>78728537
SPOONHEADS OUT
>>78727932
>Who is ready for some hard hitting episodes of trans aliens talking about their sex life?
There's been all sorts of weird species with weird modes of reproduction.
There was that time that captain got pregnant.
That time Riker was hanging out with thay androgynous alien, I think they banged
All you making this thread shows is that you've probably never watched any Star Trek.
>>78729467
>There was that time that captain got pregnant.
No it was Tripp, the chief engineer.
>That time Riker was hanging out with thay androgynous alien, I think they banged
They did not, also it was a she.
>>78729467
Thinking about it it wasn't a captain, I don't think, it was some male officer. He was kind of raped. He goes on the alien ship and the chick says "wanna play a game where we put our hands in this bowl of rocks" and next thing he knows he's pregnant.
>>78729978
>They did not
There's no proof of that.. Riker bangs just about everything
He's like Anthony Bourdain, but with sex, in space
kirk was pretty much the same
Who did they cast for the crew? I'm on mobile and can't find shit.
>>78727932
LBGTP Trek
>>78727932
All those things already happened in TNG and DS9... There's that episode with Riker and the androgynous woman, the episode with Dax and her ex wife hooking up, the episode in witch Quark gets a sex change to promote feminism to some ferengi businessman, and all that mirror universe episodes where almost all major female characters were bi/lesbians... Not to mention that Dax was openly bi/pansexual through the entire series.
>>78730339
it's still unknown, we will probably learn more once the shitty movie comes out.
>>78729387
SPOONHEADS LEAVE BAJOR!
>>78729169
It's going to pander to the JJ Abrams "muh action lazers" crowd. Only 13 episodes a season and a actual story arc instead of the "adventure" format. It's going full liberal SJW normie tier.
>>78727932
>Star Trek
Get that drek outta my face.
>liberals know their ideas don't have popular support
>a brand new liberal show would have shitty ratings
>LET'S BUY AN EXISTING IP AND THEN SUBVERT IT INTO OUR AGENDA
They've been doing this for 20+ years now. It doesn't work. They just kill the IP.
>>78730604
Star Trek, all the way back to the 60s, has been a very progressive show.
The first interracial kiss ever was on Star Trek in the 60s.
>>78730600
>Farscape
Get that drek outta my face
>>78730546
I still want a Garrak spinoff from the cold war dominion days. Hnnnngh
>>78730604
Star Trek was always liberal. It's just that liberals really went off the deep end in the past decade.
>>78730339
I don't think they've announced anyone yet, and we're still apparently months away from them releasing plot details.
>>78730604
Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future was humans of all races working together for a common goal. But, he didn't buy into all this PC bullshit and I don't know what his stance was on gays.
>>78727932
>Black Kirk
>White Uhara
EXPECT IT
>>78730339
may not be decided, more details 'around comicon' whenever that is
>>78730810
>normie's first sci-fi
>>>/tv/
>>78727932
Star Trek is leftist trash.
>>78730599
>serialized television is liberal and sjw
This place has driven you crazy.
Science fiction is an appropriate place for seven-gendered rainbow nonsense. Gene therapy, alien biology and cyborg implants are enjoyable things to speculate about. It's when people insist on wearing their flawed 21st-century-tier body mods to the workplace that you have problems.
>>78730812
There's a fantastic book written by the actor who played garak. A stitch in time
>>78730861
he was all for him, that's why in early TNG you see men in skirts
the thing about Roddenberry was that he generally presented such things in a 'natural' setting, ie didn't call things out but just had them in the background like it was normal. If we have gay romance and tranny aliens at the forefront of the storyline, that's going to be kind of bullshit
>>78731006
>implying ANYONE fucking watched Andromeda
It was good but that was the problem no one watched it because it was a Saturday day time show
I unironically can't wait for Fuller to transform Star Trek into a story of Kirk/Spock homolust.
>>78731208
>It was good
I dunno man I watched 2/3 of one episode and wanted my money back
I didn't even spend any money
>>78731208
Wait, that's Andromeda? Disregard my post, damn thumbnail was way too smal.
>>78728421
I signed up for this website just to like that comment
>>78731262
if it's another remake no one will watch it anyways
>>78731336
You need to watch it from the beginning and understand the plot and character motives. It had a much better plot than >muh federacy
and
>muh exploring and monster of the week
Plus it was dark as shit.
Shit like farscape was for faggots. Literally. Every farscape fan I met was a homosexual.
>>78730985
Screencapping
>>78728951
>It can't possibly be worse
It can and it will, anon.
>>78731551
>Shit like farscape was for faggots. Literally. Every farscape fan I met was a homosexual.
Can't deny. But it was still a great show.
>>78728537
Based as fook
>>78730810
>>78730600
>Farscape
I liked it as a teen, but i recently rewatched it and its just utter garbage.
Meanwhile TNG and DS9 are still fucking awesome.
How "progressive" would Firefly be if it were made by modern cuck Whedon?
>>78731807
Stargate SG1 was better than those two shit shows combined
>>78729387
>>78730554
>not being Pro-Cardassia
A pink-skinned unwed Fed-propagandized ex-terrorist Bajoran professor (unaccredited) and self-sealing stem bolt salesman was teaching a class on The Celestial Temple, known hoax.
“Before we begin, let's get on our knees to worship The Prophets and accept that they were, are and will be the most highly-evolved beings the cosmos has ever known, greater than any corporeal life!”
At this moment a brave, patriotic, pro-state Gul and visiting tourist who served 1500 tours of duty in the Cardassian Union's armed services and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decisions made by Central Command stood and held up a reverse-ratcheting router.
“How was this made?”
The arrogant professor crinkled his nose and smugly replied “By divine inspiration from the Tears of the Prophets, Spoonhead.”
“Wrong. We created it 5,000 years ago. Our unparalleled education system raised the scientists who engineered the design. Our fearless leaders had the vision to expand to the stars and enlighten your backwards planet. You learned everything you know from us. If The Prophets were real, they wouldn't have made a universe where routers need to ratchet in reverse.”
>>78731906
You high or something? That show was degenerate enough already.
>>78732000
The professor was visibly shaken and dropped his PADD of Orb Prophecies. He stormed out of the room crying those religious Denebian Slimedevil tears.
The students awoke from their Vedeks' indoctrination, applauded and registered Reconciliation that day and accepted Cardassia as Bajor's benefactor. A vole named Obsequience crawled into the room, perched atop the Gul's flag and shed a tear on the PADD. The Never-Ending Sacrifice was read several times and Enabran Tain himself showed up to confirm the Obsidian Order knew all their secrets but would keep them in exchange for loyalty.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gerrold plague, Regulan Bloodworms, and was tossed into the superstitious locals' Fire Caves for all eternity.
Vivat Detapa
>>78731746
>>78731551
>Shit like farscape was for faggots. Literally. Every farscape fan I met was a homosexual.
Maybe that's why I thought it was mediocre at best
>>78731906
>Caring about live-action "Outlaw Star"
>>78732003
How so? The only thing I can recall that would trigger /pol/ is one interracial couple.
>>78728172
>Enterprise was the gayest shit ever
Agree, except for T'Pol.
>>78732003
how so? the space hookers? the fact that they were outlaws?
I am confus
>>78732268
>>78732145
>muh space America rebel Western
And all the fetishism.
>>78732412
So you're just being cunty because its not fellating your irrelevant country?
>>78730507
yeah and this episodes can be counted on one hand and are basically standalone episodes.
They are usually also ones of the weaker rated episodes.
"The Outcast" episode only gets a 6.6 on IMDB, while things like "Measure of a man" gets 9.0
>>78728426
it wasn't so much the casting as the character himself.. he was just an idiot, in 'A Night in Sickbay' he basically tells an alien race they just met to fuck off because his dog gets sick.. this is after the dog has already pissed on said alien race's sacred tree
>>78732412
>never had a frontier
>doesn't understand star trek
Fuck off toothpaste.
>>78732536
Archer is Bush W in space.
Thank me.
>>78727932
So I've only ever watched the original series and some of the movies. Did the later series devolve into some sjw circlejerk? What is the precedent for this?
>>78732412
oh okay I thought you had a point or something.
I want a space show more in line with the first Mass Effect game with a coming out party of the Earth space force and Commodore Matthew Perrying other aliens till we get respect. I want it to be really right wing, like ludicrously right wing where it borders on fascism. Like the evil alternate star trek dimensions.
>>78727932
so lets get this shirt started:
TNG > VOY pre-7/9 > DS9 > TOS > VOY post 7/9 > Enterprise
star trek law of medical staff: the better the character the doctor of the crew is, the worse the show is
>>78732687
Yeah but his chief engineer LOOKS like a young dubya
and Reed always kinda looked like a young tony blair to me
>>78732731
Star trek is already fascist.
Look again, it is.
>>78728172
I thought Enterprise season 3 was great.
>Earth attacked and space 9/11 from the Xindi
>Archer goes from "Don't kill any microbes that might evolve into something in a million years
>to
>I'm going to steal from innocent aliens and threaten to kill prisoners so that I can fuck the Xindi and their weapon.
Shit was great.
Can't wait until Big Bang Theory faggots circle jerk this as the greatest sci-fi show ever claiming they were always trekkies.
>>78732898
just wait till Sheldon is this series' vulcan
>>78732788
>talking this much shit on TOS
>not including TAS
Do you even watch the fucking show?
>>78732788
TOS > DS9 > TNG >>>>>>>>>> everything else is unwatchable trash
>>78732520
That's true, but it wont change the fact that star trek already addressed these things 20 years ago.
>>78732838
Not really. Star trek focuses on Star Fleet mainly. Remember it's a purely voluntary force. You can live out your life being a janitor on earth if you want or don't work at all.
>>78733076
you work to improve mankind.
>>78728426
Ehh. He could have worked as a similar character he played in quantum leap but since this was the "edgy dark post-9/11 star trek" it was all dim lighting and finding an excuse to have explosions and fights in every episode so being an aw shucks dad captain wouldn't really work too well
>>78727932
>Star Trek
more like pic related
>>78733076
What's the deal with Cisco's dad? he runs a restaurant...but the feds live in a post-currency society, rigfht?
So really he's just a bored old man who makes food and people come in to eat.
>>78733018
you take that back. The Doctor from VOY made that entire series worth watching
>Reminder Eddington did nothing wrong
>Forced the sisko to become redpilled in the process
>>78733246
and the borg, also 7 of 9's fuckin' body.
Janeway was a fuckin' annoying hillary clinton captain
>>78730507
That's because the networks had diversity requirements and had to occasionally make "a very special episode" about some topic.
Now they're choosing to do it.
Whatever happened to the multicultural and non degenerate Star Treks like TNG? Was having an international crew not enough?
>>78733235
Star trek economy makes absolutely no sense, its whatever the writers need it to be. Totally arbitrary
>>78727932
>every bad alien is an old white guy
>>78733235
pretty much
he just makes it the old fashioned way for some reason instead of turning old clothes and poop into shrimp scampi using the replicator
After working in a restaurant I really really don't think restaurants would ever exist in a post scarcity society
no one would be a server unless they were making money, it's extremely degrading work
>>78733235
post currency and post scarcity.
that is why their fascism works. it is not based on nations but the culture of the federation/united earth.
if you want to me a real food cook you have to be fucking good.
>>78733293
Well... Sisko couldn't cope with betrayal and started exterminating maqui planets...
>>78733235
Yeah, like how ten forward is just a place where bored whoopi goldberg aliens go to make food and people show up and eat it.
That or mumble mumble something something latinum
>>78733454
he doesn't have servers, just him.
plus, in the roddenberry future servers are not alienated from their labor and they enjoy serving food.
>>78727932
> next generation had an episode where everyone in an alien race was essentially futa like the Asari
> the race become genderless
> the rebels of the race were cis heterosexual in private
> the Enterprise crew had to use their diplomatic magic to cure yet another race of their errant ways and accept heterosexuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outcast_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29
>>78733549
>be civvy
>get to fly around on a fucking galaxy class ship
>bang all the hot galaxy class bitches
>serve drinks 6 hours a day
you wouldn't take this job?
>>78733246
>nigger vulcan
>female captain
You couldn't pay me to watch it
Bryan Fuller is a great showrunner and I look forward to see what he does with Trek. But the fact that they're airing it on CBS All Access (something nobody fucking has) is going to doom the show. They need to air it on on actual cable or make it a Netflix series.
>>78733055
yes they addressed it, and left it at that, for everyone making up their own mind about that.
Not shoving it into their face about how everyone is and kind of phobe.
They whole narrative of TNG is that humankind has evolved past things like gender, race, religion, idiology etc. evaluating the persons on their skill and achievements.
Basically everything what current sjw and consorts hate, because they have nothing but their gender/ideology to identify with.
>watching the intergalactic jew
>>78727932
as long as the captain is a white guy I'll be ok
>>78733504
He ended Priestess Clinton and the Satanic-Muslim-Bajorans, and realized the civil rights era dreams were propaganda meant to distract him.
Plus, learned to accept BTFOing Romulan to save his people at any cost.
The doctor was a cuck who could have just let the chosen one shapeshifters get space-aids.
they will never have aliens as great as the Cardassians again
>>78733664
Not if I had the option to sit at home shitting into the replicator all day
>>78733401
the gratuitous borg was pretty good. its a damn shame that they became overused
7-9 was introduced well and was an interesting character at first. then she got the spotlight and every other episode was about her. while its true, we could have had more B'llana episodes, or Harry Kim is a clone and no one seems to care episodes and those are bad things. Tom Paris getting his shit kicked in more would be good
i feel 7 would have been a better supporting character to Janeway, with a subtle rivalry between her and Chakotay.
basically, she had to pull Data AND be the token sexy chick AND be Geordi most the time too
>>78733444
Have you actually seen the series at all?
>>78733764
I absolutely agree on that!
>>78733761
CBS all access? What stupidly named shit is that? Never heard of it.
Don't you worry about ST, it's always been like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX8MwpsZI6U
What I'm afraid of is that it's going to be a GoT style blood orgy.
>>78733793
It will probably be an East Asian or Indian since they are taking over the tech industry. Maybe Sulu's descendant (if he wasn't gay on the show.)
>>78727932
you'll never have a mongrel child with T'pol....her body was sexy as fuck just asking to get impregnated by me.
>>78733931
Garak was such an amazing character!
>>78733943
Eh yeah but nobody really cared about the others, at least doctor episodes were often fun.
They wen't a little too bipolar on chakotay, is he a rebel or a hippy? They couldnt really decide some times.
>>78733664
now that would be swag
>Do the Cardassian neck trick
What did he mean by this?
>>78734001
Star Trek always needed some more gore tbqh, seemed like budget/technology held back some of the writing/directing in the past.
Been watching enterprise, seeing Archers shoulder blow open from a bullet was cool. Even if he was repaired instantly and the weapons are cooler despite being the past..
>>78731208
>Star Trek TV series
Rewatch it, I liked it when I was younger but I tried to binge watch it and after seeing the same scene for ship movement and combat for like the 50th time in one season I wanted to kill puppies.
>>78727932
If they don't have a strong male captain it won't be worth watching.
Because a strong white male is the best person for the job, and they know it. The problem only arises when they choose against the white male, just for liberal brownie points.
Picard still is best captain.
>>78732000
>>78732033
read it in Dukat's voice
>>78734350
I always assumed they'd do something to look like the cardassian insignia
>>78732213
Hey now, the Engineer was cool too.
>>78734595
Holy shit its Leto II
>>78727932
Why can't they just have an in the mirror darkly series?
>>78732788
Were the other doctors really that good? I remember Pulaski and Crusher just sort of... existing, not particularly bad. I've only seen TNG
>>78730600
Wow Stargate went to shit who are all those fucking aliens.
It'll suck because they will pull all the actors/actresses from television shows instead of getting actors doing Shakespeare on stage.
>>78733751
Tuvoc/Tupoc is actually the second-best character on the show until Jeri Ryan shows up. I can't recall anything in Voyager that referenced him being black. Although I was pissed when it happened, because there were no black Vulcans, I don't hold it against the actor. VOY is still an absolutely terrible show.
TOS>DS9>TNG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VOY>>>>>>>ENT
>>78734687
Don't forget, this is 1997!
>>78734504
Sisko was pretty based though. Janeway a shit.
>>78734859
VOY and ENT were made by their doctors
>>78734870
Oh i know. Still a damn good scene, blew me away as a kid.
>>78734980
>>78734870
Its 2016 Hungary jesus no wonder you economy is shit and you only have one road.
>>78734504
>Picard
>strong
That's not how you spell Kirk.
>>78727932
Yeah fuck.
They will pay fot this dealy when shtf.
They have no idea what they are bringing upon themselves.
>>78734504
>Picard
>>78734980
Season 6 Ep 19 In the Pale Moonlight
Best Sisko episode, and over all best ds9 episode in my opinion.
>>78734090
>tfw T'pol will never rub you down with decon gel
>>78734859
Bones and EMH are absolutely based. Bashir is very good, too, but without the drunk Irishman and Garak he'd only be decent, and his genetic engineering gets talked about too much. Your opinions about Pulaski/Crusher are spot on, they're by far the worst.
>>78734687
>they have warp
>they drop out of warp, huddle together and go for a frontal assault
I felt like I was going insane while I watched that. Did the writers even realize that there is no up or down in space? Even though Wrath of Khan executed space battle so well. I was really disappointed.
>>78734687
Hard to imagine anyone would risk death joining starfleet when life is so damn easy in the star trek universe.
>>78734812
lol
Best Captain was Sisko.
where were you when Star Trek got BLACKED?
>>78735061
Kirk is pretty based too.
Sisko was pretty autismal.
Picard is respectable.
I'm glad we all agree Kirk & Picard are awesome.
Janeway a shit, no one fucking cares.
>>78728700
>have you seen any episodes of star trek before? the show has always been rooted in logic
Roddenberry era it was after he died shit started to get progressive for the sake of being progressive.
Which is not to say that it was bad but if some characters showed up that were representative of modern politics you knew ahead of time what side the show would fall on.
>>78735443
>not wanting to explore new worlds and new civilizations
>not wanting to boldly go where no one has gone before
fag
>>78727932
Star Trek has always been progressive, but logical, and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is SJWs who bleat progression without any logic.
>>78735199
Stupid Sisko
could of asked Q to change him to a white man
>>78734687
ah the dominion war arc
so fucking good
so fucking glad roddenberry died for this to even happen
>>78735300
Phlox was awesome too!
>>78735351
Well it was a war, and while at warp shield suck. Also the war would have been boring af if they just ran away all the time..
>>78735199
This.
Sisko was fucking based.
>>78731982
Too bad SG:Atlantis was just as shit as SG1 was good though.
That was a truly terrible show.
>>78735548
Are you perchance a deep sea explorer or just talking shit while you spend every day playing video games and shit posting on 4chan?
>>78728172
>>78728426
>>78732213
ENT was great.
Any true Trekker has love for every series.
I do so hope there will be more pedo shenanigans
>>78735564
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one"
Imagine dropping this line today in a major TV series! The world would collapse!
>>78735548
>appeals to ego
How Noble?
>>78731982
SG1 was great, though it started getting cheesy near the end with that space islam shit.
>>78735443
Life wouldnt be easy without starfleet. The rest of the galaxy is barbaric.
>>78733909
>He ended Priestess Clinton and the Satanic-Muslim-Bajorans
Great analysis.
>>78735928
sg1 season 6 and 7 was pretty good... and atlantis season 1-2 also
>>78736011
Yup agreed.
>>78735729
obviously the latter but if I had a submarine you best believe I'd be shitposting on 4chan inside it
>>78735667
Phlox was the worst.
>Yeah I can save these people from disease, and I fully synthesised a cure, but I won't because their retarded cousins could evolve into normal people.
Fuck, Phlox.
>>78735741
>Trekker
>>78735729
he probably thinks playing kerbal space program is sufficient.
>>78733018
I dont know why people always rate TOS so highly.
Not only is the picture and audio quality 60's tier bad, but IMHO the themes of the show are also worse than TNGs themes and plot.
TNG is were Star Trek properly started for me.
>>78735966
I'm talking about personal choice here.
If you had all your physical need meet along with a holodeck capible of an near infanit number of new life like experiance
or
join a dangerous space organization that engages in wars with hostile aliens, living in cramped quarters for zero payment.
You would really join starfleet?
>>78735709
McKay was really great, as was Shepard. They both made the show a lot better for me.
Overall it was good IMHO but not nearly as good as SG-1.
>Gotta rewatch it just for the constant bantz of the two.
>>78736111
Well he let a bunch of people die because of their shitty genetics. Eugenics my friend
>>78736203
Because tng is ultraliberal trash where the crew just croons about how great the 20th century was and how superior they are to everyone.
Kirk wouldn't have abandoned Gowron and Worf because of some bullshit treaty. Jean luc Picuck did.
>post yfw the spots go all the way down.
>>78734595
what am I seeing here
>>78727932
>colorblind and genderblind
this means anti-white and anti-male.
>>78727932
goddamnit
just gas the kikes already, this has gone far enough
>>78736375
>ultraliberal trash
Not at all, good people make the best of a bad situation.
Picard is still best captain.
>>78736269
If I could bring my dog along then yes.
I was always perturbed by the lack of dogs in the show.... just doesnt seem right.... mankind travelling the stars without their best companions.
>>78736375
TNG was way too idealistic in my opinion. DS9 was way better in that regard.
>>78727932
>Captain Jane T. Kirk
>>78735199
more like Picard was exceptional enough that he managed to make an omnipotent being interested on him, while Sisko couldn't
>>78730507
dax was technically a symbiote that would use a person as the host. the old dax host was a dude that was friends with i think the captain.
>>78727932
>considering actors for his roles in “a colorblind prism and a gender-blind prism.”
That's a funny way of saying they're going to make characters without backstories or personality.
Star Trek has always been progressive.
>>78727932
NEW RAMADAN MUSLIM TERRORISM
>>78735702
>>78736834
WUZ
>>78728225
riker fucked alot, to be fair... and who wouldn't? he had the best beard of the 90s (which is saying something)
>>78732788
By that logic TOS is the worst show.
>>78736631
>Not at all, good people make the best of a bad situation.
Letting whole civilizations die because "muh natural selection" while using medicine on themselves makes them good people?
Turning their noses up at everyone who doesn't share their narrative makes them good people?
Oh, right. having unrealistically overpowered and simplistic matter-antimatter energy sources and energy-to-matter replicators makes them good people.
TNG is shit. DS9 knew what was up.
>They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
>>78729994
>dax
UGHH
>>78728421
I quit my job to come home and enjoy this particular comment
>>78727932
It's strange to think that TNG would be considered reactionary by modern SJWs.
If I'm serious, the vision presented by Star Trek is something I would truly be happy with - a society where everyone really does get along and sex, gender, race etc doesn't matter at all, but where content of character is important, where people are friendly and get shit done through team work. That's something I would naturally support. The fact that this isn't the goal of the left really does say something.
Who was the cute (not calrissian) who sacrificed her life in that one episode but was a fairly popular character?
fuck i forgot her name
>>78736998
KLANGONS
>>78737087
Agreed, DS9 was the real deal!
>>78736814
No, they portrayed it in a who-gives-a-shit light. Smart move imo
Cast in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjw6y4ClQwg
>>78737191
>calrissian
Lando is Star Wars, not Star Trek. You're thinking of Ziyal, Dukat's half-bajoran abomination.
>>78737278
How come I've never seen that episode? I thought I'd watched everything.
>>78733778
> intergalactic
Most of Star Trek takes place in one galaxy. The only one capable of sending them out of the galaxy is Q. The OG pilot (with Kirk and not Pike) plot involved encountering a the galactic energy wall and two of the crew members becoming powerful gods.
>>78737342
>Dukat's half-bajoran abomination.
LOL
>>78737186
>If I'm serious, the vision presented by Star Trek is something I would truly be happy with - a society where everyone really does get along and sex, gender, race etc doesn't matter at all, but where content of character is important
Yeah that's why the Maquis exists.
That's why Bashir had to hide who he was.
That's why everyone shut down every one of worf's suggestions.
That's why denise crosby was fired for having a playboy shoot.
Utopia is just fascism seen from afar.
>>78732213
Oh god the space boners...
>>78728172
I really wanted Enterprise to be awesome because I really like the concept, but they fucked it all up.
>>78737570
The child molester that loved wesley made the ship go into some fucking fairytale land in that one episode.
>>78737615
Fascism is just Utopia seen by anarchists.
Miles O'Brien Irish as fuck
>>78737570
>you now remember that book trilogy where the entity that got trapped outside the galaxy by Q breaks in and fucks shit up was one of the only decent Trek books ever written
>>78737272
N Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
>>78737893
Utopia cannot exist when people have differences of opinion.
Notice how nobody disagrees with the federation narrative in the federation? The second we start getting perspectives from outside the federation (maquis, ds9 citizens) we start seeing the holes in the concept.
>Nog: It's not my fault your species decided to abandon currency-based economics in favor of some philosophy of self-enhancement.
>Jake: Hey - watch it! There's nothing wrong with our philosophy. We work to better ourselves and the rest of Humanity.
>Nog: What does that mean exactly?
>Jake: It means... it means, we don't need money.
>>78727932
I never watched that shit anyway. Kill everybody involved. And their families.
>>78737087
Yeah, nah.
Just because TNG weren't space niggers fucking everything up they came across doesn't make them cucks.
>>78737908
that picture tho
>>78732213
>>78738281
>didn't make them cucks
>>78727932
They're going to kill the franchise with their propaganda the same way they did with Star Wars
Could we talk about everyones favorite episode?
>>78738435
>>78738543
In the pale moonlight was my favorite episode actually, but far beyond the stars was such an out of place wtf
>>78737570
>nitpicking
still jew
>>78727932
So Star Trek was the motum used to soften people's natural flee response when introducing islam.
This monster of a fake religion would cause all humans to flee from their ugly deeds and their hate of humans of earth.
Muhammed was a fucking BORG!
>>78738543
Best episode ever. Black OPs Garak is best garak.
>>78738407
>They're going to kill the franchise with their propaganda the same way they did with Star Wars
>Star Wars
>Killed
Last movie made a billion at the box office...
Hope somebody 'kills' me that way
>>78738365
>oyy veyy he's wearing a kilt goyim!
see how bad it is!
>>78738817
Don't forget the Pah-wraiths!
>>78738817
No, as Eddington put it, the Borg at least tell you they are going to assimilate you.
People like to argue about what factions in Trek represent various countries today. The truth is, the Federation most closely resembles an Earth that is fully Islamified, and then undergoes some sort of sexual revolution.
>>78738976
Something can make money and still be dead.
Like Hillary Clinton.
>>78728951
>It can't possibly be worse than what JJ Abrams shat out
That's the exact same line of justification we used when Lucas sold the rights to Star Wars to Disney.
Look how that turned out.
>>78739082
Zing! (well argued sir)
>>78739059
Oh shit i had nearly forgotten that line.
>Michael Eddington: [to Sisko] I know you. I was like you once. But then I opened my eyes. Open your eyes, Captain. Why is the Federation so obsessed with the Maquis? We've never harmed you. And yet we're constantly arrested and charged with terrorism. Starships chase us through the Badlands, and our supporters are harassed and ridiculed. Why? Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves Paradise, everyone should want to be in the Federation! Hell, you even want the Cardassians to join. You're only sending them replicators because one day, they can take their rightful place on the Federation Council. You know, in some ways, you're even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious, you assimilate people - and they don't even know it.
Eddington confirmed for red pilled.
>>78738365
Shiit I watch that episode yesterday. He was only on camera for a brief second but he just stood the fuck out.
It felt so out of place and forced. Its especially weird considering the episode was shot in 1987.
>>78739254
Eddington had some pretty good speeches!
>>78738759
Star Trek always seemed more commie and Jewy than Star Wars to me. Still a good show. Now Battlestar Galactica is something I can get into. The original Larson cheesefest is still better than the soap opera / serial drama made by a former TNG writer. The original had high goals and actual aliens. The Scifi serial is just a bunch of empowered womyn, a spic Adama, and their endless fight against Xena the Warrior Princess and Al from Quantum Leap.
>>78739064
>>78734090
I hate to break the bad news but those boobs were mega fake Jolene would go on radio shows bragging about how horrified interns would brush past her thinking they'd accidentally copped a feel and she's say "Nah it's cool touch em if ya want they're totally fake"
So what is the consensus on Babylon 5?
>>78728172
The only star wars series I've ever watched was enterprise and I liked it suck it trekkies.
>>78737278
>cast in point
Nigga, you can't even speak your mother tongue properly? English is my third language out of four and I got bile in my throat after reading that crap.
>>78728742
>manage to get to the middle-later seasons of Voyager
all she had to do was order borg tits to be jiggly
>>78739686
Not as good as deep space 9 (ironically) but still really good.
Shame about all the creative meddling that the staff did. Fuck that bitch who played Delenn, just had to have your goddamned bone tiara.
>>78739686
Haven't watched it.
>>78732213
God, T'/pol/ Dick gets hard at just the mention of her.
>>78739686
Opposite of DS9. Started out great, then got worse.
>>78739686
The best space sci-fi ever created.
Ivanova is still an example how to do a 'strong female character" properly.
>>78739950
Watch it, it's good, especially season 3 and 4!
>>78739686
In the 90s we thought cultures could interact without mixing together into some multi-culti formless slop.
>>78730600
Shit tier
Babylon 5 was much better
>>78739236
pls no
pls stop
hold me
>>78730236
>Riker bangs just about everything
he was like Kirk that way, except the new show will have some gay kirk riker type who goes around banging things then gets weirded out when they're not trans green or some shit
>>78739919
This post peaked my interest, i'll be waiting with baited breath to see how it turns out. Low and behold that you would make a fragrant error when given free reign.
Nah, i hope you don't take your english skills for granite, it would give me a rye smile to see that confidence nipped in the butt.
There's no statue of limitations for poor english, so there will be no holes barred.
>>78740028
I know right and the way they portrayed how the earth alliance becomes a police state and later a neo-fascist dictatorship was one of the most eye opening thing I saw as a young adult.
>>78727932
right now, those who dont know how to create new things are cashing on nostalgia
and it isnt working. here is a fact for you, those who cash on stories, never made anything great, most of them, simply copies with same layout of marketing the movie and making the movie.
just look at them, pay attention to the layouts, how similiar theya re to each other. thats how they keep people at the darkness, thats how you make people forget and make them stay still, above all else, their minds stay still and they seek to stay there if you tell them the truth directly
>>78736814
next generation they treat the whitest guy on the show like he's black
and the poor guy is a closeted queen
>>78740280
>not "given free rain."
You had one job.
>>78735741
>ENT was great.
The entire Star Trek franchise became desperately dependent on time travel stories. I mean, it was fine to use it as a plot device here and there, but its overuse fucking ruins the series because there is no solid foundation anymore to any canon.
EVERYTHING BECAME ALL ABOUT TIME TRAVEL.
>>78740254
>Those among the J'naii who view themselves as possessing gender are ridiculed, outcast, and forced to undergo "psychotectic therapy" - a form of therapy meant to remediate gender-specificity and allow acceptance back into J'naii society.
Well fuck.
>>78730599
>It's going to pander to the JJ Abrams "muh action lazers" crowd. Only 13 episodes a season and a actual story arc instead of the "adventure" format. It's going full liberal SJW normie tier.
Hold on, 13 episodes a season and a story arc? So its going to be fucking anime?
>>78739686
That was closed to realistic to an extent. The shadow was just awesome and the vorlon whatever were just cunts who thought themselves better because of self righteousness.
The Emperor did nothing wrong!
>>78740572
It's free rein, not free reign. It has to do with horses, lol.
>>78737615
star trek is like any other fiefdom, anything goes wrong it's the kings fault
>>78740740
Londo will make the Centauri great again!
>>78740431
Indeed. Don't want to sound like a pretentious faggot, but you need to be of certain intelligence level to appreciate it (unlike the ones who responded with "lol DS9 was better").
Each character had a deep story and an exit strategy, if the actor needed to leave the show.
There was an overall arc with multiple small ones woven into it (the big ass eternal galaxy war and then side plots like the psi stuff, rebellions, etc.)
It is an easy 10/10 show even with the dated CGI.
Londo v G'Kar relationship had some much emotion, story, development, evolution, etc. that it boggles the mind. The best story involving frenemies in all of TV or film.
The actors were fantastic, the lore was deeper than almost any other show, etc.
Can't praise it enough.
Watched it as a kid and later as a teen, like you say, some scenes hit em real hard, like the music and Londo's face during the bombardment of Narn... holy shit.
>>78740966
I think he actually said that multiple times!
![SG-1-stargate-sg-1-31428859-300-324[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/D9O7sEb.jpg "SG-1-stargate-sg-1-31428859-300-324[1]")
>>78730810
>SG:A
Get that drek out of my face
>>78735709
Atlantis started out pretty good, especially better than the later seasons of SG-1, but then just went nowhere interesting and quickly fizzled out.
>>78741064
That Narn scene still gives me goosebumps... Simply amazing! I absolutely agree it's a 10/10 series!
>>78727932
I guess Voyager and Enterprise didn't kill the series enough.
>>78728172
>hating on quantum leap
your normie is showing, why even come to this thread
>>78741252
The first two season were great, even season 3, except the last episode... then season 4 and that whole baby story arc happened...
>>78727932
Mid-late Deep Space 9 and early-mid Stargate SG1 are the true kino Space Sci-Fi
>>78730812
Agree, Garak is about the most interesting character in all of Star Trek.
Even the book Andy Robinson wrote for the character was brilliant.
>>78741371
I still re-watch the civil war arc from time to time. So many great moments in that.
>the slow build up to a totalitarian state
>Sheridan declaring war
>Minbari warships defending B5 and the terran ships running away
>the captains conferring with Sheridan after he took back the first colony
Man.. I'm gonna watch that right now.
>>78731123
>That episode where they gave the founders herpes
>Odo can never again have changeling sex without getting herpes
>>78730600
Great show. Hot babes. Smart ass shit talking.
>>78736158
>trekkie
>>>/reddit/
You must be a cosplayer since you know jack shit about Star Trek.
>>78741814
Don't forget the fucking Psi corps and their story line! Absolutely amazing! Bester was one of the most interesting character in the entire show!
>>78739686
mah niggah
Best sci fi series of all time, but that's heavily influenced by nostalgia
>>78733235
Replicator food is like microwave dinner. There is a whole barter economy and energy credits for everything beyond basic needs.
>>78742431
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Bester
Just in case you weren't aware.
>>78730600
One of the best sci-fi desu senpai. Bit preachy on the whole peace thing, but great all around
>>78741767
I just started watching DS9 on Netflix (watched it as kid),
when does it actually get good, instead of being TNG on a station
>>78742697
Energy does not work as currency.
>>78728172
Season 3 and up was really good. I liked archer's character. He was an admirable dad dork with an unfortunate water polo fetish.
>>78742757
When the war starts.
>>78742757
When Worf shows up. Season 3 i think.
>>78728225
That episode was mediocre.
>>78742709
I was, The Stars My Destination is one of my earliest sci-fi read!
>>78728904
>middle-later seasons of Voyager
Welp, not happening.
>>78742431
>>78742709
You are now aware Bester's actor was Chekov on TOS.
>>78742757
When Sisko gets a beard and a promotion.
>>78743341
this is news to no one
>>78743341
You don't say! For me Walter Koenig will always be Bester, not Chekov!
>>78743578
Same.
>>78743371
And shaves his hair!
>>78735489
Saved. Fight me irl.
>>78727932
I feel like raging about stuff like this has essentially become pointless. The entertainment industry has been thoroughly cucked for a long time now, and I personally never thought they would find a way to make it worse, but hey, never doubt the tenacious spirit of the liberal retard. The best thing to do at this point is to just stop watching and let them run their own properties into the ground. There's enough good TV and film properties from past decades on Netflix and the like to keep a person entertained nearly indefinitely, and if you actually manage to run out of good shit to watch then shut off the TV and start reading.
The average person is probably not as pissed about this stuff as we are, but the average person doesn't really care enough about the neuroses of people with made-up genders to set aside a block of their time every day to absorb stories about it. The more studios focus on producing shit-tier programming with little to no entertainment value that is just a thinly-veiled attempt to force liberal ideas down people's throats, the more people are just going to stop supporting these properties and watch something else.
tl;dr if the series stinks, just don't watch.
>>78739686
Low budget unwatchable shit. The decent story arcs were overshadowed by shitty acting and worse directing.
>>78730600
>>78730810
Out of my way normie fucking shits
>>78732860
Season 4 was pretty great too.
It's just the first two that decimate that series.
>>78733235
>Cisco
We're not buying routers here, pah'tak. It's Sisko.
>>78730599
The fact that Nicholas Meyer is one of show runners suggests that it's not going to pander Jar Jar Abrams fans. Story arcs are something you have to live with and by all means improvement. The reason Enterprise failed is the fact that it was only individual non-connected episodes until 4th season, when they changed the format it was too late and probably became the best Star Trek show for a season.
>>78743999
Yeah season 4 had some great episodes but by then the series was already dead.
>>78742771
Energy credits are Fiat like the dollar.
>>78744242
The reason it got better was the switched the showrunner.
Cunts didn't think of doing that earlier.
>>78744308
>Fiat
fiat*
Big F refers to Italian cars, little F to currency.
>>78744321
Yeah, season 4 was done mainly by Many Coto, one of the producers of Babylon 5
>>78727932
Did anyone watch this show? I only watched the adverts and heard some pop culture references in the late 80s/early 90s. I wasn't into alien shows back then, so I never watched it.
>>78732974
Filthy.
>>78744440
I had no idea he worked on Babylon 5.
Haven't even watched it yet. Is it any good?
>>78732974
ZIMBABWE
>>78744308
The problems with using an energy-back currency are probably the same problems as using gold or anything else.
Mainstream economists believe that economic recessions can be largely mitigated by increasing the money supply during economic downturns. A gold standard means that the money supply would be determined by the gold supply and hence monetary policy could no longer be used to stabilize the economy. The gold standard is often blamed for prolonging the Great Depression, as under the gold standard, central banks could not expand credit at a fast enough rate to offset deflationary forces.
Although the gold standard brings long-run price stability, it is historically associated with high short-run price volatility. It has been argued by Schwartz, among others, that instability in short-term price levels can lead to financial instability as lenders and borrowers become uncertain about the value of debt.
The money supply would essentially be determined by the rate of gold production. When gold stocks increase more rapidly than the economy, there is inflation and the reverse is also true. The consensus view is that the gold standard contributed to the severity and length of the Great Depression.
>>78744444
Noice digits.
But no I haven't seen that. That's Kes' dad from Voyager as well as the Vulcan guy from Enterprise though.
>>78744499
One of my favorites, definitely worth to watch! The first season is quite slow, but from season 2 it's just pure awesomeness.
>>78744717
Well I do need a new show to watch during the summer.
I guess I'll give it a go.
>One of my favorites,
Other than Star Trek and Babylon 5, what do you like?
>>78735300
This
+1
>>78743981
Faceman is the original Starbuck.
>>78744440
Manny Coto had nothing to do with Babylon 5. He did a cancelled contemporary conspiracy paranoia scifi show called Odyssey 5.
The thing that killed Enterprise were producers. Only the 4th season delivered what fans wanted, shit that was mentioned on TOS and TNG as comments. Time travel stuff ran from in universe future was shit.
>>78744499
>I had no idea he worked on Babylon 5.
Probably the best scifi show ever. Bit dated when it comes to sets and effects because low budget and Warner Brothers managing to destroy effects masters. Wide screen DVD release effects are worse than original 4:3 versions due to that.
>>78735469
Ah... she changed her orientation, eh?
>>78735489
NEVER FORGET WE WUZ SLAVES N SHIT
>>78736375
What am I looking at?
Green for ship operations, Red for central command structure, Blue for science and medical... and the skirts are for.... ?
>>78737615
>everyone shut down every one of worf's suggestions
But he had good suggestions sometimes!
Someone make a new thread.
>>78745232
>Probably the best scifi show ever.
Then why does no one talk about it?
>>78744928
Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate, they all great, watched some Farscape but didn't find it that good, there is also this miniseries called Taken, not that great but watchable.
>>78738976
>Last movie made a billion at the box office...
Star Wars only survives on nostalgia and outrage. I went to see the movie opening day and was fucking disappointed. I'm not gonna go see anymore.
>>78745371
Seen all of them. Loved Stargate, especially Atlantis because of McKay. Firefly is great. Didn't really care for Battlestar though.
>Farscape
>not good
You have shit taste, m8.
>>78745232
Odyssey 5 fuck, how the hell i mixed him up? Im getting old...
>>78745538
I really couldn't get into farscape, watched first 4 episodes, wasn't feeling it. I probably will give it a second chance
>>78745323
Seven was the inspiration for many youthful faps
>>78745867
It's pretty weird but gets quite good. Very character motivated drama.
>>78745867
Why? I know. Aussies tend to be off putting, but excusing Zhaan the characters are fantastic.
>>78745946
She was that for all of us, anon.
She aged well enough.
>>78727932
>>Star Trek TV series to be more graphic
>>considering actors for his roles in “a colorblind prism and a gender-blind prism.”
>>the series would continue exploring "progressive" themes.
>Who is ready for some hard hitting episodes of trans aliens talking about their sex life?
The irony to all of this is that TOS was basically created with progressive principles in mind. It was quite unusual to see black, Asian, Russian, female, etc all together like that.
>>78745357
Because it's show with cult following and basically no hype back in the day.
It's show that has 5 year long story arc. Lots things had to be changed during the run, but it still had a story line that had been written before making the show. It has continuity unlike any other, small things mentioned in 1st or 2nd season may have consequences in later seasons. Due to fact that they had threat of cancellation in 4th season forced the producers to cram in first half of 5th season into 4th season turned 5th into endless filler episode, but that is whole other story.
>>78746111
But they weren't token characters. They were treated as just another of the crew. It wasn't a ploy.
It was Roddenberry's honest view of what the future should be like.
>>78746211
B-But a Polish guy made it. I'm not a big fan of Poles.
I'm gonna give it a go though.
>>78746226
>But they weren't token characters. They were treated as just another of the crew. It wasn't a ploy.
>It was Roddenberry's honest view of what the future should be like.
Point taken, anon.
JJ Abrams (man do I hate the guy) strikes me as ultra-left and will probably try to jam this stuff down our throats. I never got the feeling that TOS did.
>>78743981
As much as i enjoyed the the imagined series it was normie as fuck at the time of it's airing. Shit, my office had weekly viewing parties and they weren't nerds, it was a fucking physical therapy docs office
>>78746328
Good thing Abrams is just a producer and the show runner they picked ACTUALLY wrote episodes for DS9 and Voyager. Good episodes! There's a chance for this series.
Also, don't forget that Abrams said he didn't like Star Trek so he changed it. Basically he didn't like what made star trek star trek so he shit on what we loved.
>>78746424
It was one of those shows everyone watched. Plenty of people watched Star Trek ToS back in the day
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