How the hell would people become christians without proof Christianity exists beside the entire building of the western civilization?
Even if we had proof it's actually a thing, how the hell are we supposed to know which is the right sect and such?
This is a problem, all degeneracy is due to this simple fact.
Orthodoxy. Protestants are the founders of degeneracy.
>>78604870
yeah, they were the first liberals
>>78604870
Hello KGB
This should be enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ87iWfJdpw
>>78605262
>posting this anti-Christian JIDF plant
Go back to Egypt you fucking gypsy
>>78604478
Being a cuck has been tried for years, and we all saw where that led. Fuck off BR scum.
>>78605016
It will be like Russia/Poland. The USSR citizens were stripped of identity, when through poverty and crisis. And when the devil's grasp slipped from their countries, they all turned to god. They couldn't turn to materialism and buy their "identity", like they can in the decadent west.
Also I believe that the reason the balkans/east europe has a stronger national identity is because Orthodoxy has preached, as Jesus did, that the love of money is the root of all evil. If you can't buy your identity, degeneracy doesn't spread.
Poland is the exception as it is Catholic, but they've been suppressed for hundreds of years and they're damn tired of it.
>>78605492
How about you go back to your synagogue from whence you came?
Christianity is 90% European Paganism and 10% Judaism. Are you willing to drink something that is 10% poison?
>>78605262
garbage video.
paganism is dead, and europeans have been christians for longer than they were their various pagan sects.
>>78604478
Christianity is a Jewish religion, it can't, it won't, and its motivation is not to save the west. It belongs in the middle east with the other (((religions))). Fuck off.
>>78605909
>>78605995
Fuck off you fucking kike, nobody falls for your shilling. See this --> +
CHRISTUS REX, JIDF FUCK OFF TO HELL
>>78606121
You're the one worshipping a dead kike, retard.
My holy land is Europe, not a shitty fucking desertland.
>>78605134
>A FUCKING LEAF
You don't have to choose the Russian Orthodox Church. Sure they're the largest. But there's Greek, Antiochian (Syrian), and Ukrainian, and plenty more.
Dogma is changed only in council over hundreds of days with 100% agreement by all Patriarchs. Which hasn't changed since 700 A.D.
Also, enjoy living in your rich Protestant degeneracy as you get cucked by muslims. BTW money doesn't buy happiness.
>>78606253
>>78605909
>Romania
>not Orthodox
REEEEEEEE
>>78604478
Christianity doesn't have a rats ass chance in hell of a resurgence. Look at today's status quo. Both women and the far left are immensively powerful.
OP is right though. Classic catholicism is the very antithesis of today's values.
Also, today Brazil wasn't a shitposter.
reminder that Christian threads have become cancer and to just ignore them and not bump them
>>78606253
Don't you mean Israel, you fucking yid? We here at /pol/ know that you Jews hate Christ more than anything else in the world and we won't fall for your attempts to turn us to apostasy. Now fuck off you fucking JIDF shill
>>78606121
>worshiping the same god as the jews
>your savior is a dead jew
You're the fucking kike.
So we have FUCKING PAGANS on this thread now, what the actual hell that is not even in the game.
>>78606583
>OY VEY, ANYBODY BUT THE NAZARENE
>how about some of these comic book characters, goy? Hehehe, perfect for the shabbos go- I mean strong Aryan defender of the white race
GET FUCKED KIKE
Alright, I don't think many people will turn to christianity while they can fuck all they want and have all the degeneracy they would like to.
I only think that christianity will grow again when the muslims have killed a good percentage of the western cucks/fags/whores/degenerates.
>>78605363
Facism/Nat Soc can't coexist with Christianity
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
All the proof you need for Christ surrounds you all the time but your attention is drawn elsewhere and you're chasing after vain things.
>>78606799
>KIKE
Strong word to use when you consider one to be god incarnate.
>>78606960
Who wants to live in a totalitarian police state anyway?
>>78606400
Thank you my fellow from Portugal.
Also, thank you for everything you have given us. Our roots belong to you, you did a great job here. Also thanks for the kings and administration for centuries and centuries.
>>78607053
>his Jewish narcissism is so strong he thinks all of Christianity is concerned exclusively with Jews
Why don't you turn off your fucking proxy, Shlomo?
>>78606960
This desu. I will never understand the mental gymnastics you have to go through to both denounce judaism and, at the same time, accept the god of abraham, and accept this god came to earth as a jew.
>>78606890
that's basically true. modern degeneracy is a result of contraception, no-fault divorce, and women going into the workforce. until these things are stopped it will not be turning around.
>>78606546
Have fun serving for your 'chosen people'. Maybe you will even get a good goy insigna, who knows.
>>78607202
At this point I don't know if you're shitposting for the sake of it or if you're that delusional.
>>78607297
You are very right sir, the problem is that things like that can only happen within a civilizational collapse.
>>78607366
Dude what the hell, respect your country, Romania is great enough without you pagan degenerates.
>>78607366
>>78607372
>Oy vey goyim, when you die that's it so better stay away from the xtianity garbage right my fellow Aryans?
>by the way goy, that new thor movie is coming out next week
>>78606729
What's wrong with embracing your ancestors' religion and dismissing abrahamistic religions?
>>78604478
>jungle monkey think he gets white cred for worshipping the kike popsicle
I'm not going to worship a god that promises me an eternity with you, Pablo.
>>78607585
How do you decide which ancestors to embrace and which ones to reject?
Shouldn't you be embracing Judaism in either case?
>>78607573
Now you're plain incoherent.
>>78607659
I'm probably whiter than you.
>>78605995
Judaism was founded after the 1st century, well after Christianity. That's why Christianity is maligned in the Talmud.
your and idiot
>>78607297
Contraception, general wealth, leisure, and modern medicine.
Men who grew up on farms aren't aren't cucked. Also everytime someone get's a hangnail they cry to the gubment to save them.
In 1600s southern colonial america, they didn't name children until 1 year of age because infant mortality was so high.
>>78607752
>How do you decide which ancestors to embrace and which ones to reject?
In your case it's very easy. Pick from any three desert religions (((you))) created.
>>78607754
>a Jew who believes in Kabbalah calling anyone incoherent
>>78607542
>pagan
>degenerate
Are you aware that ALL christian morals which are not cuck-tier were taken directly from European Paganism? It's called SYNCRETISM( alias interpretio christina)
>>78607573
Paganism doesn't say that when you die that's it. That's why you procreate and have descendants, so it's NOT it.
>>78607953
You fucking kikes sure refuse to drop the act. What is the going rate with the JIDF these days?
>>78606960
it did in Germany, idiot
>>78607966
>>78608052
>calls me a jew when say not to worship a dead jew and a jewish god
Weak bait desu. I'm not mad, I'm just confused.
>>78608091
I'm pretty sure Hitler wasn't very much into the catholic thing no.
>>78608033
>implying you actually believe in the magic dude on the mountain
I can go to Mount Olympus and there are no gods there
Abandon your Judaic anti-Christian bias and see the light
>>78607752
Spoken like a true Roman degenerate. That's what happens when people become too stupid to understand a proper religion, so they take some abrahamistic shit that has only one God(the good of the world) and a supposed devil(all that's bad).
>>78608130
>I HATE CHRISTIANITY
>b-but I'm not a Jew I swear
Mmhm
>>78607659
Holy hell Latvia, you're spitting fire!
Get out of here with your Jew god!
>>78608179
And I can look around and see no gods exist anywhere.
>>78608207
>Dude, it's all, like, you know, relative, like, man, you know, like what I, like mean bro?
>Yo, pass the blunt
>>78608353
Fuck off JIDF, kill yourself
>>78608398
Exactly, paganism is obviously wrong. That's why the Christian idea of God as the logos is much more compelling
>>78604478
>Cuckstianity
Fuck off favela monkey
>>78608179
If you weren't so jew-washed, you could understand that the Gods didn't act like a real entity, up in the sky, fucking some virgin or shit. They acted as, so to speak, roadsigns.
See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAetDRkTcxo
People can't see God but they can see the effects of having no God, at least it's something to think about isn't it?
>>78608207
Also Christianity is not Manichean
>Born and raised in a christian household.
>Told jews are gods chosen all my life
>Told jews get free pass into heaven
>Told if israel falls then america falls
>Grow up and realize not only is Jew god NOT REAL, the Jews control the christians
How the hell am I supposed to go back to the Jew worship religion?
>>78608625
>Dude, the gods are, like Main Street, and, like, Lakeside Boulevard
>>78604478
It can and it will.
And dilma is going to hang. Deal with it worker party shill you lose.
Many people from cuck countries calling me favela monkey while I'm probably whiter than most and live in an area which a larger white demography than they could ever imagine. Fuck off already, you do deserve that your countries get invaded by muslims you pagan pieces of shit.
>>78608353
They can't. They've been too cucked by (((god))).
>>78608812
Butthurt brazilian christian.
Enjoy your fecal porn, faggot.
>>78604478
Religion is about faith and believing, it's a test. If you can only perforce what is right in front of you then how will you fair with what comes after?
>>78608888
Don't you mean g-d you fucking JIDF shill?
You fucks probably worship those Spartan bastards.
You all need to listen to some Theodore Shoebat, he's a really non cucked christian, the way we should be.
What's so bad about Catholicism?
>>78608353
V Ö L K I S C H
>>78608666
>>78608888
PRAISE KEK
As a catholic, what's bad about catholicism right now:
There's somthing going on with the Pope
Vatican II
The other shit is protestant propaganda.
>>78609058
>>78609211
There's lots of corruption and Masonic infiltration in the church hierarchy. It really need to be dealt with as soon as possible
That church burning bastard should be hanged in a public square.
>>78608781
Yes, retard, take for example Venus/Aphrodite/Freyja and Juno/Aphrodite/Frigg
While the first one represented The Maid, the other one represented The Married Woman, which were archetypes which guided the lives of the women so that their society would thrive and not go down into degeneracy.
>>78609269
It is leftist infiltration actually, I don't think there's many masonic morons anymore.
>>78608173
>pretty sure
I'm absolutely sure you're wrong.
>>78609269
I think it may be to late now.
>>78605492
>varg
>JIDF plant
The Jews literally terrorized his family and tried to get he and his wife imprisoned for purchasing 22 calibre rifles legally.
>>78609395
Hitler was even excommunicated and persecuted the Church back then... I can understand some catholics vote for Hitler but what went on then wasn't very pleasant for catholics.
>>78609305
Your baby circumcision religion was born in the shitskin middle east. Keep it there.
>>78604478
"Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear.
“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.
“When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes.
“Two men will be working together in the field; one will be taken, the other left. Two women will be grinding flour at the mill; one will be taken, the other left.
“So you, too, must keep watch! For you don’t know what day your Lord is coming. Understand this: If a homeowner knew exactly when a burglar was coming, he would keep watch and not permit his house to be broken into. You also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected.
“A faithful, sensible servant is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns. But what if the servant is evil and thinks, ‘My master won’t be back for a while,’ and he begins beating the other servants, partying, and getting drunk? The master will return unannounced and unexpected, and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
>Matthew 24:35-51
>>78609305
Kys Jew shill. It's all based upon Ancient Egypt. Worshiping (((Jesus))) is literally worshiping Horus, and worshiping (((God))) is literally worshiping Amon Ra.
>>78609387
It's the same thing effectively. Ecumenism and all that garbage comes from infiltration. The best we can hope for is for the conservative Vatican III to come along as soon as possible.
>>78609345
So how is paganism any different from believing in comic book characters then?
>>78609573
>>78609573
SHALL NOT PREVAIL (it comes pretty close at times though)
>>78609574
Good, I hope a bunch of racist Catholic FN members cut down all the trees in his backyard too
>>78608179
The Gods were the personification of the land.
Literally nationalism, blood and soil, autochtonic.
I have never gotten an answer on why I should believe God revealed himself to a bunch of desert bandits in a shitskin hellhole.
>>78609868
>Good
I see where your loyalties lie. You're a traitor to your race.
>bunch of racist Catholic FN members
You don't know shit about European politics.
>>78609718
FUCK VARG
>>78609868
"A third of the stars will fall" about the clergy
>>78609733
This has been debunked.
Pagans are a fucking joke, it's not like they can't harm us because they can by burning down our churches/killing us, but they're literally not in the game, not even trying, leave us the hell alone, go worship a dick, you're near enough post-modernism
If pagans want to destroy degeneracy they should start by destroying leftist movements, that would be a good start.
>>78610121
>This has been debunked XDXDXD
>Provides no evidence or counter-argument.
Spotted the JIDF
>>78609741
Do you know the definition of an archetype? Seriously, do you?
>>78608245
Why would a Hindu, for example, not hate christianity, since it's trying to convert the native people from there, since it's a globalist semitic shit?
>>78609907
It was to deliberately counter the pagan idea of the Roman Emperor as a godly figure, and the glorified images of the pagan gods. Christ was born to a carpenter and his wife in a desert backwoods province of the Roman Empire, in a manger with horses and other farm animals around.
I know you want nothing to be above the State though, so it might seem weird to you.
>>78610048
>implying I'm not aware of the FN and various thinkers of the French alt-right like Soral
>implying a believer in comic book superheroes can call anyone ignorant
>>78604478
National Socialism is a Christian movement.
>>78610232
>not even in the game
Some of the most influential figures in the European new right are pagans.
Sons of Odin.
Varg (yes, Varg)
Benoist
Golden Dawn
All Pagans.
It's Christians who aren't in the game or who are actively against us, especially in Scandinavia.
Now I know there are millions of whites in Brazil, but why can't you see what Christianity has done to South America? One big racially mixed shit hole.
>>78610474
Augustus Sol Invictus
>>78610405
>mplying I'm not aware of the FN and various thinkers of the French alt-right like Soral
Then you know they are not Christian extremists and don't attack Varg except when their leadership says he is too racist (but should be allowed to say what he wants without being terrorized by the government)
Says the guy that believes in a dude that can turn water into wine, walk on water, bring people back from the dead, etc, all super powers.
Do you really believe God cursed all snakes to crawl on their bellies?
>>78610366
Where was Mithras/Horus born? Geographically speaking, of course. There's a church built where Jesus was born.
>>78610382
>he projects his atheism into pagan religions and assumes people atheistically imitated religious practice of archetypes (very weird)
And the Hindu might dislike Christianity because he wants to continue believing in primitive shit likes sacred cows, reincarnation, and vegetarianism. That's why India is a shithole
>>78610474
Race is a false God... I don't worship it as much as you do altough I really really really want to preserve the white race.
Why the hell do you imply that south america is mixed BECAUSE of catholicism? In fact most of catholics I know are a BIT racist and think that race mixing is a WRONG THING because it strips us out of our traditions/culture.
You fucking put the State above all things, this is pretty stupid imo, if the christians fight you pagans in Scandinavia that is because you still have not learned the lesson that vikings had to learn the hard way.
>>78610689
>the old "miracles (i.e. supernatural events) are supernatural so therefore not natural so therefore impossible"
Ebin
>>78610720
>That's why India is a shithole
Too bad it's not a glorious Christian paradise like Columbia or the Philippines or Ethiopia.
Race matters, cuck, not religion.
>>78610898
I never said it doesn't matter. It does. But it's not the absolute number 1 to the exclusion of everything else, there are other things that matter as well.
So I reject your false dichotomy that only race OR religion matters, and I say that both matter.
>>78610830
>Race is a false God...
There we go.
>You fucking put the State above all things, this is pretty stupid imo
I put my people above all, the state is not necessarily a representation of my people.
>if the christians fight you pagans in Scandinavia that is because you still have not learned the lesson that vikings had to learn the hard way.
The only people Christians are going to fight in Scandinavia is nationalists so that the Christians can import more refugees, marry more gays and and suck more black cock.
There is nothing more cucked than Scandinavian churches. Don't even go there.
>>78610834
Just pointing out that """"miracles""""" are comic book-esque.
>>78610898
Hey, Ethiopians are great great niggers. They had the balls to ban Islam in their country.
Of course intelligence from latin america countries do not help us much but the ones of us who are catholic, even with low intelligence, are very great people that I would die for, the most honest of them always recommend me marry white girls. Well I followed their advice.
>>78611185
Only if you take for granted that it's impossible for the supernatural to exist, in which case I ask for proof.
>>78611129
>So I reject your false dichotomy that only race OR religion matters, and I say that both matter.
Both matter, but what makes India a shit hole is inferior genetics. If they were 100% Christian, they would not be any better. Hell, a good chunk of Sri Lanka is Christian and it's not better than India.
I don't understand how Christianity is supposed to help the white race when most Christians are not white and there is no moral justification for expelling non-whites and separating ourselves from them, especially when every single mainstream Christian leader to the Pope himself is against nationalism.
>>78611388
I didn't say the supernatural doesn't exist. I am a theistic pagan. I communicate with my Gods daily and I have experienced a lot of the supernatural in my life.
That being said, I don't see why proposed events that occurred in what is now Israel affect me or pertain to me.
Imho as a latin american catholic I think we need to encourage smarter people to have more kids than dumber people. I'd be probably sinning but I'm not sure about that. Eugenic thoughts much maybe or just the average use of reason?
>>78604870
>>78605016
What?
I am not Christian, but; Protestantism was originally A LOT stricter than any other religion. No alcohol, sex only in the "missionary position", no dancing etc. Also the Bible > Vatican and not Bible = Vatican. Much focus on the old testament.
My grandfather come from a family of old hardcore protestants. The protestants/lutherans in the US startes as way stricter and more "anti-degeneracy" than any other religious groups.
I think protestantism collapsed on it's own weight, as people couldn't live a normal happy life without breaking laws. Protestantism today is not the old Protestantism.
Protestantism was a protest against what they saw as the degeneracy of the Vatican and Catholic church.
>>78611415
The Catholic church's doctrine (that is, if you ignore Friar Cuck) is that immigration, if any is permitted, should be done for the benefit of the society receiving the immigrants, and that if this was not the case then that society has every right to reject them. It's been the classical Thomist position for a long time
>>78611591
Oh have you experienced a lot of supernatural in your life? How did this happen?
Boy I grew up with guys like you, we always had a fight because they were in the whitest school in the city, which was catholic and they kept pushing us down because they were the "nordic beasts" even though they were mixed with italian whites and didn't look very nordic. We used to fight over it so much.. You guys are always like that.
>>78611591
Because it's best to believe in the great God who created the universe and makes its continued existence possible than to try to commune with demons who want to damn you
>>78611591
How can you be a theistic pagan? As far as I know, theism didn't exist in Europe before the spread of christianity, because people were focused on life on earth, living in harmony with nature, not supernature.
>>78611185
>Just pointing out that """"miracles""""" are comic book-esque.
those miracles were signs pointing to old testament culture. the feeding with the loaves for example reflects the manna during the post-egyptian exile. many of the other miracles reflect old testament prophecy like "Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped." they all have some extra meaning.
http://christianthinktank.com/mqx.html
>>78611714
Protestantism doesn't have an authority that all Protestant are accountable to for their theology (like Rome) so it's much easier for Protestant doctrine to degenerate compared to Catholic doctrine.
Also extra ecclesiam nulla salus, so it's best to play it safe
>>78611620
It would have to be done in a non-coercive way
the catholic doctrine has degenerated slowly yes...
It can still be saved but protestant doctrine is impossible to save, it's liberal christianity.
>>78607573
Your not fooling anybody kike.
>inb4 federal
I'm a Christian, but I've got enough self awareness to recognize the kike roots and kikery present in christianity.
>>78604478
>Only cuck religion can save cucked west, not ultra nationalistic militaristic ideology
OP, are you retarded?
>>78612375
>my_fellow_kids.jpg
>>78612375
*fedora
Fuck mobile
I went to an anglican church the other day to testimony a wedding, boy there was a gay couple as witnesses
>>78604478
Fascism easily can.
Religion and race are closely connected in the brain, there's a few studies to back that up. They zapped parts of the brain to make people less racist, which in turn made them less religious and have worse threat assesment.
An ethnoreligion is the answer; the religion of the blood
>>78612459
Scripture is on my side. Christ warned about snakes like you.
>>78604478
Well maybe if you could read you'd be able to re-read the bible until you realise you have to ask God to provide you with understanding to be able to comprehend His word and act accordingly.
>>78612658
>Evangelicals
Wew
By the way I'm no Marcionite
>>78604478
What about Clerical Fascism?
>>78612203
Yes, but it's wrong to say Protestantism were the founders of "degeneracy" or were the first liberals.
Lutheranism is a lot stricter, and is much more community oriented with freezing out people that do not follow the "rules" or act degenerate.
Just see how people in Protestant countries today act, with much less emotions, "Law of Jante" and take much more guilt in what is bad around them and in their life.
Latin-America is not any less degenerate than Northern-Europe.
>>78604478
>implying there is no proof of Christianity
>implying fascism/nazism cannot save the West
before you ask me where are the proofs, well just go ahead and search by yourself.
>>78604478
Yeah whaverer enjoy hell as the most evil persons on earth.
>>78612951
That's not necessarily the best way to be, since humans are naturally bound to slip up from time to time and it's impossible to avoid this (only Christ did so). It's also worth considering that you don't need to be a puritan and deny yourself all enjoyable things in life (like alcohol, dance, and good food), just that you shouldn't enjoy them to excess
>>78613564
Yes, but again, my reply was to that Protestants were the founders of degeneracy and the first liberals. They were clearly not.
>t's also worth considering that you don't need to be a puritan and deny yourself all enjoyable things in life
Maybe not (I am not religious), but Protestants believed that.
None of the sects are "right." Do you honestly think that anybody has it 100% right?
Read the Bible and interpret things for yourself. Nobody in this world knows what the fuck they're doing.
>>78613962
It opened the door to degeneration though, since none of the Protestant churches need to justify their theology to anyone. Even now, you can basically open a Protestant church and preach whatever you want, but to become a Catholic priest you have to go through training.
a challenger appears
>>78614295
Exactly! In Brazil many mofos open those churches and get rich. Some smart African nigger countries have forbidden them from entering their countries.
I really like african christian countries.
>>78614765
It's definitely a dangerous thing to allow these weird culty sects to spread. Shame that Africa has more sense than we do
>>78614924
Yep. They allow no degeneracy but Bill Gates already has "plans" and "education" for them..
>>78614295
But then again, the Catholic Church itself, the priests, are completely degenerate though.
And again; Latin-America is just as degenerate as anyone else.
>>78614295
you 'scripture+tradition' people have the same issue as us 'scripture alone' people.
>i will interpret the scripture
>i will interpret the magisterium's interpretation of the scripture
>>78614924
>It's definitely a dangerous thing to allow these weird culty sects to spread
It's so weird when Christians say shit like this. Its like when you say shit like "we need protect our religious tradition from foreign traditions trying to replace them". Zero self-awareness.
>>78610366
Here it is, I'm not expecting you to believe it though.
