So can we now have a "Dixit"?
>>78603780
As a voluntary ambassador from the great state of Florida all I have to say is , Fuck you. We aren't getting stuck with all the niggers.
>>78604291
as another representative from the gunshine state, I also have this to add:
Fuck you, we aren't getting stuck with all the niggers.
Texas is cool though.
>>78603780
Ask Robert E Lee
No. Keep your niggers. And Louisiana is getting their Katrina niggers back.
>>78604751
I agree with this fine gentleman from Florida. We keep Texas and the North shall have the niggers.
>>78603780
I would fight to the death to become free from the north and Cali.
>>78604751
Why can't you just legalize slavery again?
>>78603780
>Dixit
That's what she said
>>78603780
Why havent we built a bridge from the bottom tip of Texas to the bottom tip of Florida yet?
>>78603780
What are you going to say, though?
>>78605666
Noice.
E pluribus unum
>>78603780
Possibly a NATOut
>>78605609
Why? You'd just lose again.
>>78603780
Doesn't your constitution says that a state CAN NOT secede?
>>78604291
Implying Florida would be allowed in Dixie.
Florida is mostly retired yankees, kikes, alligators, and Cubans. Not sure what's worst.
>right when we're about to get Trump
Pick your battles you retards.
>>78606423
Trump will keep everything north of West Palm Beach so I'm safe.
>>78606418
>Doesn't your constitution says that a state CAN NOT secede?
No, it mentions admission only, not the other way around.
The Supreme Court just decided to make up the rule that no one can leave.
>>78605210
>>78604291
>>78604751
>niggers
Couldn't we just carve out state in the Mississippi delta for them? Send them all there, a black govt for black people with black police and black economy so they can finally learn how to take care of their own shit.
Develop some sort of 'self-determination.' It would take a good while obviously, but at least they'd no longer be able to blame their failures on 'rasis white folk' when they have the largest fucking port and irrigation in the east coast.
>wanting to leave Trump
You'd have dozens of governors, congressmen etc fighting for the presidency and leadership. It'd become a satellite country to the USA and would be abused, poorly managed and frankly utter shit.
But then again you're the South, you already are that way.
>>78606710
This vid made me happy, based Mary a qt
>>78605017
He was opposed to secession.
>>78604751
>implying they'll stay here when the gibs stop
>>78603780
United we stand, divided we fall.
>>78606710
>make up the rule
Details? SCOTUS doesn't have any legislative power. Is there anything actually binding on this?
If you pay them enough, all of the bureaucrats living in Nova would move to Richmond to run the new gov't. They're just here for money--country club democrats.
Let's do it senpaitachi.
>>78606867
As a resident of the great state of Louisiana, no fuck you. We have been stuck with the niggers for the entirety of their stay in America.
>black govt for black people
They tried that in New Orleans. Then Katrina came and wiped it all away. Goodnight chocolate city.
>>78603780
as a Texan i feel we have a moral obligation to at least try to save the rest of the union (ironic i know).
if Trump loses, i'm right with you though, fuck the Yankees.
I would totally support a new Dixit country. We can call it the Gadsen States Of America (GSA) Idfk. But It would be better than being in a coutnry with a bunch of fucking traitor anti gun liberal cucks. We can make laws banning gay marriage. And stop shemale traps from peeing next to our daughters and wives. It would be paradise!
>>78603780
There are no breaks on the Union train.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRXmuvLU8LQ
>>78607324
But would there be slavery?
>>78603780
MAKE TEXAS A COUNTRY AGAIN
>>78603780
What if we all agree to just expel California and liberate Maryland and New York?
>>78606418
Plus, I'm not a historian, but I'm fairly sure my ancestors found out the hard way that if enough Americans decide they don't want to be ruled, then a few pesky laws don't get in the way
>>78605609
I'm ready to send your ass back to hell with the rest of you're moonshine soaked asses Cletus.
>>78607426
Maybe. And we can make it re-illegal for woman to vote.
>>78606710
Isn't the Supreme Court like... supreme? Over the constitution?
Anyway, you are a "federal" country, isn't it enough? What would be the changes?
>>78606418
No. The founding fathers knew that secession was incredibly patriotic (how do you think America started?). States have tried secession before and it's legal, it's just incredibly unlikely.
>>78606867
Just shut up and come to the nigger free zone.
Also the south would never be able to finance an exit without outside help and its very likely that Russia would be the only power willing it to give it to you. As having Russian anything on this side of the globe is intolerable you can almost guarantee an unreasonable and violent reaction in order keep the south in line. A lot more than a Brexit would have to go wrong before the South could even begin to secede again.
>>78607696
Supreme court is about as legitimate as you pretend they are. Their rulings mean fucking nothing. I don't feel like the are legitimate. So when they rule I just shrug....I mean if we were going to Dixit, then i would support my new country. NC here!
>>78607480
No, I only care about Texas.
>>78606418
It also says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but that hasn't stopped the Yankees.
>>78603780
US states can't leave the Union. I thought was pretty clear after the Civil War.
>>78606218
Would rather die than continue to live in this liberal hell.
>>78607515
I'll take as many as your family with me as I can.
Stop lumping Oregon and California together. Literally the only major blue areas in Oregon is Portland and it's little ass-zit Eugene, and it's only blue because of all the shitty fucking communists and niggers pouring in from California on their way to Seattle.
>>78607184
>SCOTUS doesn't have any legislative power.
Technically, no, but they do that with every decision. For instance, when Selective Service was challenged in court as being the equivalent of slavery (outlawed by the 13th Amendment), SCOTUS said that no, it was not slavery, because people used to work together to put out fires.
Yep, you heard me right. They decided that it was not slavery since fire marshals used to have the right to ask able bodied men to haul water buckets to fight fires or some shit. If that isn't just making shit up out of thin air, I dunno what is.
Case law is still law, regardless of if we classify it as "legislation" or not.
Also, regarding withdrawing from the union:
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/74/700
>Texas v. White
>>78607696
Supreme doesn't own the constitution, the only thing they actually do is be the final word in interpreting the constitution. A case only reaches them when a constitutional liberty is brought into question. They aren't God.
>>78607696
>Isn't the Supreme Court like... supreme? Over the constitution?
Nothing is above the constitution.
>>78606418
Rules don't matter when two big groups of people are shooting eachother to death.
>>78607281
Lousiana is basically irrecoverably their territory already man, they gotta go somewhere rather than metastasizing across the US.
Genocide just results in international intervention and the destruction of your own ethical culture.
Nobody is going to pay to ship them back to Africa (and they haven't been 'african' in centuries.)
Doing nothing just means they continue to exist as a parallel culture causing mutual demographic strife or worse causing massive demographic shift and cyclic civic collapse.
>>78608010
Civil war 2.0 We are very heavily armed here in the south. Also Most military installations are in the south.
>>78607923
You'd have even more trouble keeping beaners out than you already do. You'd have to divert a disproportionate number resources to border protection without the Feds standing there anymore.
>>78607701
No you dumbass.
The whole point of the Civil War was the federal government enforcing the fact that secession is absolutely illegal. Democracy means nothing if the minority can just leave whenever they lose.
It has never been done and will never be done.
>>78607930
>implying the South cares about the constitution or rights in general
mfw
>>78608225
It would be easy. Shoot them on sight and they would not want to come into the Texas....
>>78608225
The feds only get in the way e.g obongo pardoning illegals and telling border patrol to not enforce the law.
>>78608326
>implying the yanks do at all
>>78605609
Can you take the niggers at least.
~OhioFag
>>78608417
I like my anon here. He gets it. The yanks are lawless libtards......
>>78607696
>Over the constitution?
No, they are UNDER the constitution. One of their main roles is to interpret laws in light of the constitution.
For instance, our constitution says that every accused person has the right to a fair trial. It also says that the press has freedom to report, which shall not be infringed.
Here is the problem, what happens if a new report would prevent an accused person from receiving a fair trial? Both rights are equal, and yet, both are in conflict. This is where SCOTUS would step in and handle the case. Interpreting the constitution, SCOTUS would issue a ruling that ALL other courts are bound to and to which legislatures are bound to obey and design their laws after.
>>78607891
>Also the south would never be able to finance an exit
That's just categorically false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
Combined GDP of likely secession states would make the new country the 3rd to 5th largest economy in the world. Plus the only Atlantic nuclear submarine fleet (Kings Bay GA), most of NASA, most of the Atlantic ports, most of the oil, the strategic oil reserve, etc.
The Yankees need us more than we need them.
How about we just get rid of the niggers, Muslims, and spics and call it a day. I'd rather not fight anymore white people.
>>78608293
The Civil War was fought for a lot more than seceding. Trade and many other disagreements were factors. The USA has gone to war for less.
Seceding isn't illegal. The USA was just stupid and decided to attack the South out of stupidity. The USA knows it can never go to war with itself again.
>>78608633
I'm actually in support of this.
>>78608326
>We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_csa.asp
We are a very Constitutional people. I assure you, that we firmly believe in property rights, including that of now antiquated farm equipment.
Wait, you sure you Oregon bros don't want to be a part of great Cascadia?
>>78603780
Fuck your gay-ass map- we'll kill all the communist vermin in SoCal and link up with the newly formed republic of new Mexico. We get to slaughter gun-fearing rats and they get ports along the Pacific.
Libertarian paradise- guns, weed, fish tacos and palm trees.
>>78607515
>I'm ready to send your ass back to hell with the rest of you're moonshine soaked asses Cletus.
Why? Seriously, if you don't like us, what the fuck do you want from us? Are you addicted to fried chicken, biscuits, gravy and sweet tea?
>>78608633
White liberals are far worse than Southern niggers and spics. Too smart for their own good. You can control niggers with welfare. You can't control someone with an Oberlin degree spewing Marxist bullshit.
>>78608441
Fuck no you freed them. You take them.
>>78608597
This guys got the right idea. The South has almost everything. We are the greatest and all we get from the north is criticized.
Everything south of LA County should be New Mexico Territory in CA.
>>78606867
New kemet, a place where kangz can build pyramids n shieet.
>>78608633
Yeah, that would be great. But the northern liberals and certain parts of the west want a multicultural society hell bent on destroying white culture and christian values. When your own are against you, they force your hand towards violence.
>>78607696
the supreme court can only interpret the law and rule on the constitutionality of laws and executive actions. they are actually incredibly powerless
a quick example of how powerless they are:
>supreme court rules that President Jackson can't evict all the injuns in florida
>Jackson: "the supreme court has made their decision, now lets see them try to enforce it"
>evicts injuns anyways
in short they ca't do shit unless another branch is actually willing to go along with them.
dont you fucking dare stuck the midwest with commiefornia and jew york and dickstrict of cuntlumbia
fuck the coastalniggers
midwest coast represent!
>>78608823
We didn't want them free, friend :( Abe lincoln tacked that on, you could keep them for all we cared. They haven't left our cities since then.
Virginia doesn't want to be in the confederacy.
>>78608929
Violence seems to be the only answer at this point....
>>78608293
>Democracy means nothing if the minority can just leave whenever they lose.
That is complete nonsense, and it depends on the nature and form of government set up by a democratic/republican society.
The constitution gives Congress, and only the Federal Congress, the right to admit states into the Union. There is NO mention of a right to expel states or even to prevent them from leaving.
The 10th Amendment is clear as fuck:
>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The power to expel states or to prevent them from leaving has never be delegated to the Federal Congress, only the power to admit them has. So, until there is an amendment which gives Congress the right to deny states their ability to exit, Congress does NOT have that power, because it is NOT delegated, and so they......
>are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
>>78608965
Northcoast represent? i mean...great lakes right?
>>78608115
>Nothing is above the constitution.
Is it possible to change the constituion? I mean, if not, you cant do Dixit and the war is your only solution... Not cool.
>>78609044
Just the parts around DC and Norfolk.
>south rises again
>south loses again
>this time we do what we should've done and mass exterminate all the traitors
>US obesity rate plummets while education levels and life expectancy rises
go for it.
>>78604291
>>78604751
>florida fags pretending they are southern.
GA will annex the panhandle and let south florida burn.
>>78603780
>Forcing texas to join debt hellholes of the south
>>78608212
This is the main problem. What would it take for US soldiers to turn inward and start shooting other Americans. Not all soldiers in the Southern bases are from the South. How would the command structure break down and abscond with enough hardware to run a war against the rest of the country? And who else gets involved? Russia is going to want a piece, Who will Britain back? Where will the EU fall if the South rises again? I really don't see any way for the South to successfully secede from the United States. A British exit from an intimate alliance with the Eurozone is not the same as a nation fracturing.
>>78609044
Virginia should burn
>>78603780
>arizonan here
im okay with this
emperor joe arpaio would probably ramp up border security more than trump. everyone strapped at all times. no crime. just a true hot paradise
>>78607488
This.
God can you imagine. . .
>crooked hillary steals election
>SC calls for emergency vote: stay or go
>others follow
>Civil War II
>one month period for all supporters from the north to flock to southern states and vice versa
Buy gold, lads. Buy gold.
>>78603780
>So can we now have a "Dixit"?
Not unless you want to get spanked by the north again.
>>78609183
It would not come through force of arms this time around. Rather, disaffected voters would determine that a distant power no longer represents their interest. From their, state legislatures would petition Congress for their release from the Union.
It is not as difficult as it sounds, nor as impossible as people make it out to be. If the majority of a state's residents want to leave, there is a fair chance that Congress would get out of the way.
>>78607696
No, they only give the final ruling on how laws are to be interpreted.
The judiciary has always been know to be underpowered compared to the other big players
>>78609183
>yankee fag sucker thinks he can beat pissed off rednecks
Aside from Texas and Florida, the vast majority of the south would not do well with secession.
>>78609470
From Mexico. They are scared. The Mexicans know we can pull it off so they come to /pol/ to stop us
>>78609064
That all sounds nice, but that's not how it works in the real world. The US would never allow a group of states to break off and form a new country.
>>78609044
Just the NoVA people who work for the Federal Gov't--we follow the money. The rest either have confederate flags or couldn't give a shit. VA is part of a different cultural group than much of the rest of the South, though.
>>78609607
There's also the fact that the South is heavily over-represented in the politics of the nation. There would be no real point to be honest.
The south should instead find ways to spank California's retarded anti-constitutional way of thought instead of begging for ill fated secession.
>>78609677
They couldn't stop us. They can't even defeat Afghanistan Taliban.....
>>78609062
I'm not looking forward to it, but if it comes to that, and I won't instigate it, but I will without question take up arms and fight against the tyranny if it comes to another civil war.
>>78609183
The north would be utterly decimated this time around. Gun ownership is hugely shifted against the north and the military will largely sympathize with the south's values on globalization, immigration, the coming election, gun rights, etc, basically everything. The north would be brought to its knees in a month.
This solves everyone's problems.
>>78603780
Most of the south, including texas, and middle america would be fucked without the federal aid they recieve.
>>78603780
sure, if we can call it the arizona territory instead. fuck new mexico
>>78609357
US soldiers are pussies. They joined the military because they thought it would be the easiest job with the highest benefits, including immediate deification by the normies. Dumb, dumb white trash and minorities getting free healthcare and housing (albeit shitty) while doing absolutely nothing.
Would they fight? Kinda doubt it.
>>78609470
We'll do what the Yankees did last time around, except we'll use illiterate Mexicans instead of illiterate Irish.
Offer you and your family citizenship in exchange for military service, and then if you don't get killed in combat, send your ass North in the peace treaty.
>>78609889
Most people in the military are from the south. And I would not mind seceding. Because we have been abused by the libtards for so long. We don't even share the same values and were in the same country? We should be in different countries. And any libfuck who says otherwise would miss us.
Can someone tell me what the deal with Kansas in OP is?
>>78609136
You can't change the constitution, but you can amend it with an amendment.
>>78609814
Listen to this Mariachi. If we can unscrew the 9th circuit court and unfuck California then it will be easier to free the rest of the commie states like NY,MD,and MA
>>78609136
3/4 of state governments
2/3 of the congress
>>78603780
>Commiefornia
>staying in the U.S.
HA
>>78603780
People in Oregon HATE California and would never join together. Not to mention the Oregon territory was once Oregon Washington BC Idaho and parts of Montana.
>>78604751
>>78604291
I second these motions. The north may have the niggers they love so much.
>>78610059
>Got kicked out of basic for pissing himself
>>78609160
>>78609375
>>78609695
The parts that matter.
>>78606218
HAH. WHO'S GONNA GET THEM, THE LIBERALS WHO DON'T HAVE A SINGLE GUN?
>>78610427
Said the person who has no dealings with the military whatsoever.
The vast majority of them are fucking embarrassing.
We're ripe for some kind of takeover. China, probably.
>>78609677
>The US
It is not some monolithic entity which hovers over its brood to quell dissent.
It is the matter of how people vote within each state, and how each member of the House and Senate from each state reacts to the wishes of their constituents.
The USA is no more corporate controlled than, says, the UK is, and yet, Scotland still had its referendum to leave, and may yet have another. The reason most people have this sort of disaffected vision of the world where mighty things like the possibility of a state leaving seem impossible is because no one even attempts to undertake such a campaign. Everyone is so convinced of failure before they even put their feet on the floor in the morning, that no one even really tries.
>It'll NEVER happen! Of course it can't! It is just TOO difficult! Impossible!
>There is NO way anyone would ever get behind me/us on this. Just think of all the obstacles! What about all of the corporate interests? The banks? The powers that be?
Nigel Farage heard the same shit... and now? He is probably dancing a jig on the counter of some pub right now while getting completely plastered in celebration of THE IMPOSSIBLE.
No one dreams anymore. Everyone just convinces themselves that accomplishments are just too difficult to achieve, and so, everyone goes home without even trying.
It can happen, you only need to get started and get over your defeatist bullshit.
>>78603780
no, its retarded LARP shit for southerners. The reasons they left 100+ years ago are completely irrelevant now, so it makes absolutely no sense to do it
>>78610469
They think that they are going to use the "Muhmilitatary" To stop us. They don't know that like 80% of the military consists of southern people.
>>78610443
>>78610443
True they are the parts that funnel tax money to the rest of the state.Imagine if NOVA and Norfolk kept all their tax revenue
>>78603780
Don't make me come down there again.
>>78610663
Ne we still feel the same way. The fact you had to use the word "They" in you're comments proves you shouldn't be here. Why don't you go eat some rat pizza nyc fag?
If things break again, it'll be on better cultural lines than slave states that the Union couldn't put under martial law.
>>78610799
>some rat pizza
>>78606867
The place would become Somalia within a month
>>78610773
Try it again you dead faggot.
>>78605612
Not cost effective. It wasn't particularly optimal then either, but it was a local optimum so it wsd difficult to get out of. Sharecropping was a better system all around, cheaper than paying for and supporting slaves, who were more productive once they had $$ incentives. We could possibly go back to that.
California here *sips organic cold-pressed juice*
Can you guys keep it down with all the "war" stuff? I'm having trouble concentrating on my yoga.
>>78610773
You're not burning Georgia this time, faggot.
>>78610903
YankeeFag. kys
>>78610799
>rat pizza nyc fag?
Im more southern than you, you rich pink neck faggot. The issue of slavery is fucking done and settled now so it makes no sense to leave the US other than you jerking off to "HURR DA SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!" memes too much.
>>78611126
Georgia is already burning coal. Sherman doesn't even have to roll over in his grave to keep that shit going.
>>78611090
Found the sex slave.
>>78611291
Unpatriotic fag. Die yankee scum
>>78611348
Not really. We here appreciate the more civilized side of life.
>>78611090
Take off them panties and squeal like a pig.
>>78606418
No. It covers joining the union, but is silent on the subject of leaving. There is a Supreme Court decision (Texas v White) saying that *unilateral* secession is unconstitutional but it is ok if both sides agree, but the logic is shaky at best (the critical part is based on the a laughable interpretation of the preamble to the constitution).
>>78611575
Like San-Francisco. And the fiasco going down there? kys California. Fucking wierdos
>>78605609
>people in this thread think like this
>people in this thread never visited the west coast let alone heard of it in most cases
>they never set foot in california
>they never set foot in vegas
>they never set foot in washington
>they never leave their home state
>they hate California because of proganda from russia and the few legitimate cases liberals being stupid but always bites them back in the ass every single time
>they truly believe the state with the most retired veterans , active soldiers will take it sitting down
>these people share the same breath of air with you
>these people never graduated past middle school and the few that did never became something
this country might fall apart in 100 years but you better believe my ancestor will be looking down on me watching me do what he did 150+ years ago which is to rid these lands of retards
>>78611664
Fiasco? Dude nice meme!
>>78611483
>Unpatriotic fag
youre the one calling for secession because of some baby fantasy shit, retard. Also, thats not an argument. I bet youre some fratfaggot who just started dipping last year so you can feel more "southern"
>>78607696
>Isn't the Supreme Court like... supreme? Over the constitution?
No. It is supposed to interpret the constitution, but that's it.
>>78611765
Psssst.. hating the west coast is a meme.
>>78606867
It would just be a complete waste of the largest port and irrigation on the east coast.
>>78603780
Not without WV and OK.
>>78611831
Nice insults. Meaningless. Once we secede you're getting deported.
>>78611765
How about attacking the content of the argument and not adding what you think is its origin?
READ THE FUCKING STICKY
>>78610675
2/3 of combat arms are southerners
>>78605609
You sure about that pal?
>>78610773
>Look at me I can march thorugh basically undefended territory and burn down civilian targets xD such a military genius
>>78611126
Burning down Texas will have to suffice.
>>78612095
>implying a majority of sourthern nationals and parts of texas believe the country is shit because of everyone but them
get out
>>78608010
>US states can't leave the Union. I thought was pretty clear after the Civil War.
No more than it made slavery illegal. That's why the 14th amendment was needed, But no amendment establishing the illegality of secession ever passed. It was a supreme court case Texas v White that said unilateral secession was illegal (but bilateral secession was ok), but you should read it to see how amazingly laughable the logic was.
>>78603780
Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire are the the only good yank states, you lib hippies fuck off.
>>78612130
Yes!
>>78612058
>Nice insults. Meaningless
But thats all you did little boy. At least I actually gave an argument with my insults. And you wont do shit except post memes anyway because you know Im right.
Now go jerk off to Oldrow and listen to Rascal flatts you LARPing faggot
>>78603780
>>78605017
THE NIIIGGHHHT THEY TORE OL DIXIE DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_eK9ERNChI
If Hillary ends up getting elected, none of you Unionists have a leg to stand on.
Secession is far preferable to being part of a sinking ship.
>>78610675
The northern economy absolutely dwarfs the southern economy, even leaving out California (although of course Texas does very well for itself -- yay, Texas.) The south just isn't capable of waging a prolonged war against the rest of the country, financially. I'm not trying to insult you but it's not about how tough you are or how many guns you have, it's just numbers and they're not on your side. They weren't in 1860 and they still aren't now.
"Only" about 45% of the military is southern, by the way, which don't get me wrong is still a damned lot.
That said, if the south did try to break away again, I'd be in favor of just letting you guys go. You'd be a perfectly viable country on your own, a great trading partner, and the things we want for our country just aren't compatible anymore.
>>78612509
We could secede. You couldn't because you don't have the backbone. You're a computer pussy and a dead fag to me.
>>78606418
John Locke would disagree.
People have the right to revolution with, "An appeal to heaven."
Revolution is not usually state-sanctioned.
>>78612678
Then convince you're leaders to let us go? If you don't need us. We don't care about you and you shouldn't pretend to care about us.
From an SC nigger, I support a rematch. Every other state is too bitch made to even pop this shit off.
>>78605017
"Madam, don't bring up your sons to detest the United States government. Recollect that we form one country now. Abandon all these local animosities, and make your sons Americans."-Robert E Lee
>>78612222
Couldn't even take Louisiana.
>>78612678
It's time to move on with our destinies....
>>78612231
Sherman faced off against the CSA of Tennessee using flanking movements after failed frontal assaults and despite ur fantasy destroyed mostly railroads, lines of communication besides kicking ass.
Why are we assuming there will be bloodshed?
>>78612775
>You're a computer pussy and a dead fag to me.
whoa dude! youre such a southern badass! I bet your GMC truck is lifted 18 feet into the air is full of old cans of grizzly wintergreen longcut! This is totally a real political movement and not just some emotionally stunted and confused 20 year old fratfag playing cowboy at all!
>>78612678
Where you faggots gonna get the gas to run your planes and tanks? All the refineries are in the south, and the strategic oil supply is in Louisiana.
LOL at your mighty union army walking into the south hauling your artillery on your backs.
>>78613311
Agreed.
Amicable divorce so we can move on. With the help of digits of course.
>>78613502
See all they do is slander us. Why would we want to be in a country with people who say things like this? Oh yea we're real united here.....The South should so secede. I wonder who the YankeeFags would talk shit about then?
>>78613529
This anon is smart. APPROVED
>>78613697
>I wonder who the YankeeFags would talk shit about then?
Maine?
If there are any NC fags here, then we should write to Gov. McCrory about this. If anyone would need to be spoken to about this it's the heads of states.
>>78613823
Haha Maine. We'll maybe they can come too....
>>78613697
Are you too retarded to remember when I said Im more southern than you? As in, I live further south than you? and my family has been here since the 1750s.
You are just doubling down on your LARP shit. And fuck off with your "Im such a victim :(" millennial faggotry
>>78606867
And let me guess, they will buy everything... At a black market?
>>78608023
If America's a liberal hell, what's Europe?
>>78603780
Lmao, you realize a Dixit would give you the demographics of Brazil. And consideirng all the cuckservative egalitarian nonsense that the majority of Southerners believe (don't forget Texas chose Rato over Trump), you guys would be fucked.
Make America white again! Kick out the south!
>>78610280
This is impossible. Not in a country the size of a continent. Even the Swiss cannot agree to that extend. Forget your idea guys.
Besides, I don't get the advantages ...
>>78614427
>I don't get the advantages ...
The biggest advantage is get to hear people argue seriously that anyone should be able to buy a tank on the television
>>78609587
Surely if these laws are "interpreted" then its not the actual word of the constitution thus nullifying any ruling? You might as well try interpreting the bible, no matter what you get from it, its all bollocks anyway.
>>78614217
Actual hell.
>mfw niggers want to divide up the union
>>78603780
>keeping commiefornia
>>78614427
We've had 17 successful changes to the constitution even with those strict rules. (Although a lot of them were forced by the North in exchange for the South regaining representation in the Congress, which seems legally tenuous to me but not to the SC).
>>78610107
My based state flooded the territory to make it southern so new england yanks filled it up and after years of guerilla warfare beefed it into the california of it's time in order to block the south from spreading west. All before the civil war. Did you not pay attention in history class?
Brexit is an epic win
BUT...
We're not a bunch of pussies like the EU, so if Texas and any other state gets any ideas, we'll slaughter them into submission.
>>78610107
It's a historical map of the US. My guess is during the Civil War. Kansas didn't secede, neither did California. The rest of the country was still indian territory
>>78604291
YOU BROUGHT THEM HERE FAGGOTS
>>78603780
You'll have MAGA, and like it. Why leave the union when you're already uncucking it from the ground up?
Descendent of 18th century textiles kingpin here, God bless the south and their wonderful cotton. My family would be nowhere without you guys.
>>78608326
You could say we are overly constitutional. We let dumb yankees change it for the worse and then accepted the changes without protestation after only a couple decades.
>>78605612
We could literally just ship them North or ship them back to Africa. I don't see what the problem is.
>>78612678
The South has something the North doesn't - men.
>>78620561
>ship them North
We'd be cuck enough to go with this. I hate you guys so fucking much.
>linking Texas with a new confederacy
fuck you guys we're going solo
>>78619111
>YOU BROUGHT THEM HERE FAGGOTS
That was the Jews I'm sure of it. I bet it was the Jews who made black people so niggery too.
>>78603780
New England will be its own country. Don't stick us with the niggers too.
>>78603780
>Still no State of Jefferson
>>78608823
>We are the greatest and all we get from the north is criticized.
As proved by your impeccable school education and Floridaman stories.
>>78611126
Honestly, now is the time we need the Yankees to burn Atlanta.
Then while they're pillaging, surround them and end it. Two birds, one stone.
>>78603780
No. I don't want the rest of the south brining Texas down.
>>78603780
Oklahoma and the New Mexico territory is southern clay.
>>78603780
Death to Traitors
The wrong side won the war...
>>78603780
People like you disgust me; I get the feeling the closest cultural cousins to England are the bloodlusting, cousin-fucking dirty ole unironic southern nationalists. And I think that Brexit is something like the equivalent of the confederate secession. If that's true I can say with the utmost pride that the slags and travelers who drank up all the "ARE NIGE" Kool-Aid deserve the economic depression to come
>>78606418
We decided that question when the South invaded and tried to establish a neo-aristocracy and then we burned half of Georgia to the ground and turned Richmond to rubble, alone, without the explicit support of the French and British Empires.
>>78603780
>New Mexico Territory
m8 the green chile burritos are pretty damn good, but they aren't THAT good
>>78603780
Florida >Red
This domino effect is going to be fun.
>>78603780
Why the fuck would Arizona be overtaken by New Mexico
>>78625942
>And I think that Brexit is something like the equivalent of the confederate secession.
Now imagine the EU sending an army into Britain, killing a million or two people, installing a puppet government of Germans and Belgians, who then agree to every EU policy and whim.
That's basically what the U.S. did to the South.
>>78603780
I would rather see this happen.
>>78625942
Yes, the Talmud commands you to feel revulsion around us.
>>78603780
Sheeeeeeeeeit
>>78603780
Does Iowa have to be stuck with the union?
>>78623538
join us
>>78603780
>washington d.c., the capital of the united states, is not in the united states
(((Google))) is pushing their agenda with another propaganda video, but this time they decided to censor all comments from the beginning. You don't have to watch the dreadful thing, just remember to give it a downvote,.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oDLqmM2BPw
>>78606418
Of course, even if states could secede, every southern state did so illegally and without any sort of negotiation, or precedent, in fact, explicitly and immediately with rebellious violence, murder, looting, and seizure of government property. Rebels were all that the Confederacy was, and it is well within the constitution to put down a rebellion, no matter how large.
If you want to argue that the South, in their glorious slave-holding culture and traditions and language, were being suppressed and oppressed by their Northern overlords, you would be wrong because if anything, if the courts, if Congress, and if federal law enforcement and trade were defined by anything it was by domination from Southern magnates.
There was no abject mistreatment or different treatment of the South in terms of taxes, or martial law, or what have you. The only greivance they had was GREED, greed for slavery, for tarriff-free trade, and the conquest of South American countries through fillibustering
>>78626729
Heh
>>78603780
Suck my dixit its never going to happen.
>>78626719
Says the man living in a state in a region whose representatives lobby more for Israel and her Aliyah colonization and private sector-growth investment programs than any other region in the USA except New York and California
niggers
>>78626456
The South was run by kings who treated their peasants like children, and gave them slaves to feel powerful. It was toxic and backwards and evil in every way except the perverse "courtesy" and "manners" that developed from the rise of nobility and entrenched political-economic stagnancy
>>78627186
>the United States will always exist in its current state and will never, ever change
That's what the Romans thought.
Can Arizona tag along? We did the last time...
>>78609044
places under richmond + blue ridge are a okay, the rest is lib central
>>78626456
>>78627478
If Reconstruction had been allowed to finish, the South may have entered the 20th century circa 1920 instead of 1972, without a continued focus on landed lords, peasants, and murder and silence of dissent to keep up the political machines.
The worst the freedmen and the carpetbaggers ever did was nothing to the endless decades of corruption, oppression, stagnation, and anti-justice that occurred in "post"-Reconstruction South
>>78603780
Niger you better snatched up Kentucky and Ohio. I'm not moving again.
>>78627652
No. Texas alone is the only way it can be successful if anyone tags along the economy will be utter shit
>>78606867
>>78605210
>>78604291
>>78604751
just put them on reservations desu senpi.
>>78603780
New England Bors, when will we have a NExit?
>>78627478
>The South was run by kings who treated their peasants like children, and gave them slaves to feel powerful.
Learn some history, faggot. The South was disproportionately taxed by a huge factor, and this fact created the environment for such a system to come into existence.
>>78627744
The carpetbaggers, not to mention the war itself, were the exact opposite of the spirit of the revolution: self-determination.
>>78626213
>without the explicit support of the French and British Empires.
Thinks there's still a British or French Empire
>>78603780
>>78604291
>>78604751
Hello from Alabama.
Give us more than fucking Mobile you greedy cunts, you have more fucking coastline than Cuba and yet you STILL tried to make us landlocked.
>>78627744
>If Reconstruction had been allowed to finish, the South may have entered the 20th century circa 1920 instead of 1972, without a continued focus on landed lords, peasants, and murder and silence of dissent to keep up the political machines.
If slavery had been allowed to burn itself out naturally (by about 1870), we may never have had the kinds of civil rights problems that we have today.
The rest of the western world freed their slaves peacefully, but old Abe had to start a war over it.
You can do it burger bros.
We did it!
>>78627864
We have tons of copper and coal...
>>78605688
Because Planes exist
The confederacy hasn't existed for over 150 years
It would never have enough support
>>78628345
Old Abe was elected, and made no provocative moves towards slaveholding prior to the rebellions. During the war, he rewarded the loyal union states in the Borders by allowing perpetual slavery. The SOUTH attacked officers, and soldiers, and burned and looted and spat piss and vinegar at the government because the magnates sent word to the provacateurs that Abe Lincoln slept with niggers, that Abe was going to outlaw slaveholding by executive order, that he was this, and he was to do that. And a furor rose and millions died. And the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Thankfully enough of the Southern Rich died in the war and their palatial mansions built on blood and robber-baron-ness, could be passed to some honest men and women, even if they were corrupt that those evil-to-the-core lines ended was justice in itself, because they propogated war as much as the northern industrialists that the Southerners like to decry as the true villains.
>>78628784
>Implying removing a foreign military that is occupying your nation without consent makes you the aggressor.
Stop believing yankee lies.
There are people in this very thread who unironically think the US Navy wouldn't quite literally blow the fuck out of any succession attempts.
>>78610891
Dude I don't want anything in the corner east of KY and TN and north of NC to have anything to do with Midlands.
Also bring in the rest of Texas to the midlands
>>78628947
bullshit southern nationalism is no excuse for all that was wrought
>>78628345
Abe was going to send them back. But that faggot Booth had to kill him.
South Illinois here, can chicago be its own entity
fuck chicago
>>78629244
>Still acts as if Abe was a justly elected leader when he didn't even get 40% of the popular vote and wasn't on the ballot in nine states.
The War of Southern Independence was initiated by the yankees. Why can't you see that?
