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Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America


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Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense. also you are far more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a family member with a gun than to use it for self defense. owning a gun is simply not a good idea.

pro tip: Target shooting is not a legit reason, saving 30,000 lives is far more important than rednecks having fun shooting targets

pro tip: Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?

pro tip: Hunting is not a legit reason. its 2016, nobody needs to hunt for food anymore. Hunting is cruel to the animals who die a painful and frightening death. Also hunting is terrible for endangered species like wolves and grizzly bears.

pro tip: Saying that gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason. Gun control has already proven to be successful in America. Automatic guns were banned in 1986 and today practically nobody is killed by a fully automatic rifle.

pro tip: Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason. Presser v. Illinois (1886) ruled that individual States do have the right to regulate gun ownership.

pro tip: Saying that America is a democracy is not a legit reason. Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people. Most people in America want stricter gun regulations and the only reason no laws have been passed is that the NRA has spent billions of dollars lobbying for no gun regulations.
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This isnt the flavor of the week topic chaim. Try again once the Brexit hype dies down.
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>>78600507
If you love gun control so much move to Mexico.
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>>78600507
>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a g
Yes it is, how do you expect a small woman to do defend herself from a thug breaking into her house at night, there is a reason why it's called the great equalizer.
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>>78600507
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>>78600507
you don't need to justify a God given right
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.

LIKE FUCKING MEXICO
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>>78600507
So you can get shot.
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>>78600507
I don't need to give you a reason. It's the law. The Second Amendment is the supreme law of the land and you don't have enough support to change that.

We don't have to compromise with you or justify anything. We can just sit and watch you squirm.
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Target shooting is not a legit reason, saving 30,000 lives is far more important than rednecks having fun shooting targets

UH YOU MEAN KILLING 50,000 PEOPLE?

Because that's what's happens in gun-control paradise Brazil every year. Yeah they banned guns, now it's painfully easy for the criminals to slaughter them. (the people)
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Take them from me, ho!
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>>78600507
Everytime in recent history as well as today, when leftists manage to ban arms, after they succeed they commit atrocities against their citizens. That alone invalidates the leftists position as well as it's nearly in the open now.
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?

You are right. 100% The guns are basically totally ineffective as you just said. So I'm sure you won't mind if we go ahead and keep them. Problem solved.
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Hey, look it's another '1 post by this OP' gun-grabber thread.
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>>78601345
just like in japan right? and in england right? and gemany? and sweden? and denmark?
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>>78600507
>why
Germany France and more. So sharia rape Gangs and roving bands of thugs can be dealt with.

Now go the fuck back to redhdit you delusional crack addict sj-w
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>>78601191
not
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you

just look at my flag

>Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?

opressive regimes don't want to anhilate an entire 300m population, they want to dominate them, and the United States will NEVER fall into a dictatorship if that fundamental right is granted. Of course that goes in the opposite direction of Castro loving retards like Obama.

>Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people.

have a referendum about it then
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>>78600507
come and take it you cum guzzling faggot.
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Saying that gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason. Gun control has already proven to be successful in Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela, South Africa, Cambodia and Nazi Germany.

Basically, all of history is a lesson why we must never give up our guns. And protip we won't.
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>>78600507
Chalie Hebdo, Brussels shooting, Paris concert attack, German theater shootings

Seems like your precious European gun control is doing nothing but leaving Euros defenseless
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>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with

I'm in favor of tighter gun laws, but seriously dude? This is fucking bait.
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>>78601625
argumento
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>>78600507
my poor oppressed gay transwoman life > a fucking rightwing while males who breaks into my houses to rape and kill mes life

we need protection sister
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>>78600507
Apparently not, because you keep asking.
Not that anyone here cares if you understand or not.
Bye.
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>>78601796
+1
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.
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>>78601625
Wut
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Saying that America is a democracy is not a legit reason. Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people. Most people in America want stricter gun regulations and the only reason no laws have been passed is that the NRA has spent billions of dollars lobbying for no gun regulations.

Well that comment is multiple layers of lies. Would take a book to expose them all. Bloomberg alone has 500 times more money than the entire NRA budget, and he uses it to pay cucks like you to shill for gun-confiscation. Funny how your boss rolls with 11 goys all heavily armed gunmen.

Maybe tell your boss to disarm first then get back to us.
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>>78601545
Seems so importing gorillions of migrants who in turn rape and kill the citizens pretty much fits the deffinition of abusing their citizens.
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Man /pol/ is easy to bait. Stop replying to these garbage threads seriously, you morons. You could at least sage. Jeez.
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>>78601545
Wow, look at all of those 1st world homogeneous countries you listed. It's almost as if race and culture has something to do with it.
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Gun Control laws only make it easier and more profitable for criminals who trade guns. It hurts law abiding citizens.

Her in Canada it works because we are use to it, and yet there are still many guns on the street. Our criminals generally leave people be. But in a country like the US. It'll never work. And for good reason.
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>>78600507
That's not how this works. You have to give a reason why they should be banned, with evidence to back it up.
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>>78600507
Just look at Mexico, only criminals and drug lords have guns, the average guy doesn't.
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>>78601653
Cringe
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they don't need a reason. rights don't have to be justified.
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>>78601625
Theres no point in an argument. We have this thread 3 times a fucking day.
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>>78601634
>>Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people.

>have a referendum about it then

We don't care about a referendum. We have the referendum of last resort.
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OP is a defenseless cuck who would rather spread misinformation than defend himself, so I'm going to post some neat .webms
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>>78602235
:^)
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>>78601672

>Abortion
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>>78602350
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>>78600507

The beauty of living in a free country is that we the people don't need to justify to the government why something should be legal, but the government has to convince the people why something should be illegal. Fucking commie
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SHALL
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>>78602459
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>>78602499
NOT
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>>78602649
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>>78602350
>>78602459
> I think both of those situations would have been safer if nobody had guns at all
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>>78600507
if you were really worried about human lives as you claim to be then you should be fighting to end private ownership of vehicles. traffic accidents kill more people than guns by a landslide, yet no one is up in arms about us owning cars.

>Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?
you literally know nothing about how a war would be fought. the US (and the world) is having a hell of a time with ISIS, basically a bunch of guys hiding in the desert with guns. if you really think an armed populace wouldnt stand a chance against a government then you are literally retarded.


>Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason.
you make me sick
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>>78602649
lol fucking rekt
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>>78600507

>Most people in America want stricter gun regulations

Says who? Why the fuck should I believe some bullshit poll?

Are these the same people that have said we have "11 million illegals" for the last fucking 12 years??
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>>78602850

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED NIGGER
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Horsey is even worse than Latuff at this point
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>>78603061
This was in South Africa wasn't it?
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>if guns were illegal no one would have a gun

Wew, this better be b8, or you need to kill yourself my man!
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>>78603079

>Filename

Kek
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>>78600507
>Shill and autist

Take this shit to kike book, you won't get any likes here fucking traitor...

/thread
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>>78601477
But it's not.
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>>78603254

Because such weapons are absolutely impossible for you to make on your own!

Oh. Wait a moment...

http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/BSP-SMG_Book.pdf
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>>78603061
>all 3 thieves ran away unharmed

disappointing
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>>78600507
Lol you're trying too hard m8. No matter how long and drawn out your faggot "arguments" are, the answer is and always will be.....

SHALL
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>>78602850
Why don't we just ban crime? Obviously if nobody commits crimes we won't have to worry about guns!
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>>78600751
>>78600994

There's a slight possibility the gun crime in Mexico is related to the ATF knowingly selling guns to the Cartels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
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>>78603424

Here's the one man nog stomper
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>>78600507
this is the most retarded fucking post i've seen outside of /b.
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>>78602649

>that last shot at 0:46 to put him out of his misery
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>>78600507
If you prefer safety over freedom, why won't you move to my basement? You won't have right to go outside and i would violate your ass sometimes, but no one of these evil guys with guns will ever reach you. It's absolutely safe, I swear.
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>>78602649
BTFO
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>>78600507
I'm a Britfag and I think Americans should keep their guns.

The country was BUILT with "Everyone is allowed a gun" as a central tenet. There is nothing wrong with that and they should stick to it. If you don't like the risk of getting schools shot up, fix your social education, don't scapegoat something which has been a part of your cultural rights since the beginning of the fucking country. Anyone who doesn't like it still should shut up and fuck off; go live somewhere else.

It's like with the refugee crisis; Britain signed a treaty decades ago about how they would agree to take in refugees in times of need. Because they signed it, they need to stick to it. If they hadn't signed it I'd be all over telling them to fuck off, but since the country has signed it, it's tough shit and we have to stick to what was said.
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>Hunting is cruel to the animals who die a painful and frightening death
I don't like burger's gun laws but I think this is a really bad argument. First the animals which are hunted have had better life than industry animals so speaking about cruelty of the hunting is hypocrisy. Also someone has to keep the size of the animal population at the right size because there are no natural predators and large populations will cause ecological damage. But I have to say that you don't need automatic military grade weapons for hunting :^)
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>>78600507

The babies are still at it...
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>>78602850
>knifes only

>motorcycle
>guy drives up
>places knife on victims neck
>no chance to pull knife

>gas station
>both guys walk in knives pulled
>pull knife out stab one
>lol not dead, it's just a knife
>get double teamed

Safer for the criminal maybe.
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>>78600507
SHALL NOT
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.

Sorry, no. I'm fit and can fight but if some thug, meathead, game-of-thones-mountain-ass-motherfucker who takes steroids and gets strong all day is threatening me, my family, or property, you can bet that a gun in still needed.
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>>78600507
Because it's a natural right.

Any other argument is moot.
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>>78600507

I'm female.

You really want me to not have a snowball's chance in hell against an attacker? That's very sexist of you.
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with
It's virtually impossible to both make guns illegal and make sure no criminals own a gun.

At first, the US is going to have the same problem Brazil currently has: the country is far too big, impossible to cover every inch, guns will get through.

But then... man, look at 3d printers and printed guns. Sure they don't work all that well and most of them will break after a single shot. But see how easy it is to get one at home.

And if criminals really wanted to, it's not even that difficult to build mildly acceptable guns themselves.


Btw, Brazil banned guns for a while now. Violence levels only increased. Now we have murder rates higher than South Africa. Criminals have no reason to fear the police when you have a population too big to watch, and now they have no reason to feel the victims either, so they just go right ahead.
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Nigga why u so salty?

LOL.
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>yfw I make fully automatic weapons in my home
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>please explain
'No'
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>>78604459
>literally a suicide

Why the fuck would he point it at his chest if he didn't intend that result?
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>>78603677
the skinny guy got on top of him and nearly had him, how did he turn out around? it sort of looks like he's pulling the other guy's leg or arm, I can't tell
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>>78600507
You know who wants to take away your right to self defense? Criminals. There is no logical counter argument.
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I have to go with OP IS A FAG
a cum guzzeling ass felching fagot
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>>78604364
its obvious he's never been in a serious fight. even if im connor fucking mcgreggor im not trying to fight some methed out tweeker who'll just shank me.
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>>78604649
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>>78600507
Pro tip: if you are willing to ban or prohibit guns to a minimal level for the sake of potentially saving lives then you are obligated to prohibit anything that can take a life such as alcohol, cars, ect...

I'd love to hear the argument on why the value of a life is greater when it is lost to due to gun violence over the value of a life taken by a drunk driver.
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>>78604471
Don't you know?
Police have, like, a 5 second response time.
Come on, it's 2016!
Tell your rapist that it's current year and they'll apologize for their disgusting sexism and objectification of the female body.

(this is what noguns really believe)
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.


Why not just make a law that makes it illegal for criminals not to obey the law?
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>>78601545
Financial atrocities are still atrocities.
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"Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?"

You should ask some Afghans, Iraqis, or Syrians.
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> owning a gun is simply not a good idea.
let me stop you there
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>>78600507
TLDR FUCK OFF
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>>78600507
nice arguments of a 5th grader
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>>78604459
It's like he's just standing there, stunned at his own stupidity
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>>78604662
I think your front sight is mounted backwards
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>>78600507

Can someone PLEASE give me a reason that OP hasn't committed Sudoku yet when he's clearly a retarded faggot?
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?
Just you try running an oppressive government when every single citizen is armed. And the ones who resist will not fight clean, either. They'll do hit and runs, hide and get you when you least expect it.

The whole point of an oppressive government is to force the people to submit. But a population that has a fighting chance will NOT submit. So you'll have to keep fighting forever, until either you stop being oppressive or they're all dead. And a dead population is not worth oppressing, so oppressive government would be done anyway.
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>>78601625
you're right, it's not an argument.

it doesn't need to be- you're not getting my guns, period, unless you kill me first

you and your kike puppets have done more to make me into a patriot than all the rightist propaganda and patriotic horseshit ever could. i used to be a lazy pushover but now i've dug my heels in

i'm at the point now where if some cop even tried to arrest me i'd kill him first

maybe that's what the kikes want, but too bad
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>>78600507
>give me a legit reason to own guns
>all legit reasons are not legit

Shut the fuck up you faggot. Move to yurop or some faggot country so you can get all the nigger jizz you want in your ass.
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun

so naive it's almost cute
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>>78600865

Why does /pol/ always to this thing where it successfully indentifies when someone is a problem but fails to apply it appropriately.

OP now has three. ONE POST is only a problem if it's at least over 50 posts with OP not showing his face. Saying ONE POST three posts in is like /threading your own post.
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muh constitution. The end.
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>>78600507
You can have my guns when you pry them these cold, dead dubz.
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>>78600507
Self defense
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>>78605079
>implying it folds towards the muzzle
Kill yourself
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>>78600507
Stop posting the same shit you retard.
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>>78600507
>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense
>>78602850
>> I think both of those situations would have been safer if nobody had guns at all

Why do you think women should have no means to defend themselves against multiple male attackers? Or do you think a woman at home by herself can fend off multiple men when nobody has a gun?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/09/us/breast-feeding-mom-home-intruders-charlotte/
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2015/06/09/woman-hospital-gunfight-home-invaders/28727561/
http://www.people.com/article/11-year-old-scares-home-invader-shotgun
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I have a gun because I really like the cool sound it makes.
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>>78605244
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>>78604783
>how did he turn out around
The thug didn't secure his hooks and was too high to maintain back control, should've taken some bjj lessons.
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>>78600507
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>>78600507
now post the REAL and UNEDITED horsey, stop dragging the grand wizard through the mud like this with your shitty edits.
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>>78601672
>accident (unintentional)
How many people have died from an intentional accident?
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>>78600507
So we can re-secede from the union to get away from nigger retards like OP
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Talking about guns and gun control without mentioning race is like talking about terrorism without mentioning Islam.
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>>78605089
>mom talking about how easy it is to buy an ar-47
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>>78600507
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>>78601672
Someone forgot what happened at Orlando recently. The club had a armed guard :^)
Also speaking about being "defenseless".
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>>78605079

TROY SIGHTS
IDEAL
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>>78600507
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>>78600507

They virtually baned guns in Chicago and look how well that worked....
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>>78606652
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>>78606257
Lots of people if you consider mafia "accidents"
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>>78606652
Maybe it's not the guns, maybe it's something else
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>>78600507
>five niggers break into my home
What more reason do I need?
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>>78600507

Alright guys you know the drill.


>SHALL
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>>78606972
NOT
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Because smarter and more important people than you said so
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>>78602850
what a fantasy land you live in.
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>>78607121

BE
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>>78605244
>1 post by this ID

hello kike shill
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>>78600507
>self defense is not a legit reason
>assumes you only use guns to defend against guns
lol
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>>78606652

>Someone forgot what happened at Orlando recently. The club had a armed guard :^)

i personally would have committed arson. Club had 300+ people in a very small concrete building with two back doors and one in the front. Because of all the people in there and the concrete infrastructure, a homemade pressure cooker IED would have killed a lot as well.

>Set several fires, block both doors, people run towards the front, set off IED at the front door, and then detonate one in the bathroom.

If you honestly believe guns were the only capable way of killing people you're dead wrong.
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>>78600507
Poorly veiled bait, or 12yrold tumblr fag wandered her way on here. Either way, here's your (you)
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>>78606674
>if you can't fabricate your own microchip, how can someone else have that responsibility

literally shit tier argument
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>>78603567
Do you actually think Fast and Furious is the main reason why there is so much cartel viopence? Those guns were a dip in the ocean of how many firearms criminals have in Mexico.
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>>78600507
>Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

because it angers people like you
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>>78607536
>comparing human self defense devices with computer parts
ok.jpg
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>>78605089
keked at the ak-47
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>>78607672
>Do you actually think Fast and Furious is the main reason why there is so much cartel viopence?

Actually, the Mexican drug criminals could just setup their own gun factories if they wanted to.
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>>78600507

Mao, Stalin, and Hitler would all agree with you.

ITS 2016! People shouldn't fear their government any longer.
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>>78600507
So real Americans can shoot people like you.
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>>78602867
>you literally know nothing about how a war would be fought. the US (and the world) is having a hell of a time with ISIS, basically a bunch of guys hiding in the desert with guns. if you really think an armed populace wouldnt stand a chance against a government then you are literally retarded.


Fucking this.

A government cannot function without a population backing it.

The military only has so much time to go without supplies.

Contemporary wars are fought with logistics more than weapons.
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>>78600507
The government will always legalize weapons inferior to it's armed forces arsenal. It doesn't matter if some middle schoolers get shot, the military/police will always defuse the situation with no actual damage done to the government.
You don't fucking matter. You get shot and die? Big fucking deal, the country just lost 0.0000001% or less of it's workforce, or maybe even 0%.
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>>78600507
>pro tip
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Banning guns will not work in USA, unless you have a magical device that will make all guns disappear in the whole continent.
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This is some seriously high quality bait. You deserve a medal or something
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>>78600507


Increasing the power and ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves is empirically proven to reduce violent crime.

Responsible people will handle things responsibly.

Irresponsible people will kill each other and thus remove themselves from the gene pool.

Its a win-win either way you look at it.
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>>78600507
brtian doesn't have guns, and its gone down the shitter
/thread
/checkmate op
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>no more webms of criminal scum getting shot
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>>78600507
Hillbots are in over drive today.
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>>78607938
>ITS 2016! People shouldn't fear their government any longer.

Some people don't anymore!
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense. also you are far more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a family member with a gun than to use it for self defense. owning a gun is simply not a good idea.

What?

>self defense is not a legit reason

I'm still having a hard time getting over your immense stupidity.

I'd love to argue and state facts and sources, but I'd just be wasting my time if that's how you're gonna open up this thing.
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>>78602235
I cringe every time a tryhard faggot like you posts the word cringe.
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>>78608193
He deserves a gold star
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>>78602407
Someone could kill you pretty easily
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>>78600507
>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with.
Because criminals would never make a home made gun or purchase one from the black market because they are illegal right?

>Target shooting is not a legit reason.
You are literally trying to control what some people do as a hobby and justifying it with moral outrage, not sure if faggot or tremendous faggot. Criminals will commit crimes with guns if they want to, failing that they will get there hands on the next most destructive thing (pipebombs/hunting knives etc etc) shall we start banning everything until you can only own plastic forks and knives?

>Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason.
So you want to live under a repressive regime in which you have no rights?

>Hunting is not a legit reason.
If that is the case we better stop the sale of fishing poles, those silly people going out and catching fish to eat clearly don't need to do it right, plus those hooks could be used as an assault weapon.

>Saying gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason.
Correlation does not equal causation and people are still killed by automatic weapons proving that a complete gun ban does not completely work.

>Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason.
"Unless restrained by their own constitutions, state legislatures may enact statutes to control and regulate all organizations, drilling, and parading of military bodies and associations except those which are authorized by the militia laws of the United States." This only applies to groups of people acting in a military fashion outside of the regular armed forces, not individual liberties, not a valid argument.

>Saying America is a democracy is not a legit reason.
Actually it is, if you want thing to change then elect enough people into power who represent what you want, otherwise nothing will change, in other words, fuck off and stop whining because you are a loser.
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Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in the current year? They're horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
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I wish my country was as armed as you guys. Please listen to me. Never let the goverment take away your guns, it is the only reason why your country will never have fear of a tyranical goverment, invasion, or organized crime. My people have no guns, no dignity and no sense of patriotism. Please, burger bros, don't lose your sense of identity
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>>78606417
The breakdown on the US murder rate comes from somewhat inflated UN data - they list the overall US murder rate as 5.2 per 100,000 in 2010-2012; FBI data has the overall homicide rate (including justified homicides) as lower than that in each of those years (4.8 per 100,000).

>>78608365
Here's a favorite of mine, even though she missed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0tfsX1II2Q
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>>78601545
they was a mass shooting in germany only yesterday.
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>>78608645
>shall we start banning everything until you can only own plastic forks and knives?

>mfw the UK is actally doing this
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Op...

This United States will need guns to defend our country when that damn British Empire comes after us again!
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>>78606775
So you are implying that because you have a lot of guns and still kills are less than 5 it's acceptable. You should compare yourself against civilized countries not shit holes like Russia or Brazil. USA has still that 3.6 spike compared to other civilized countries <0.5. Enjoy your lead (pun intended)

>>78606868
Yeah I know it's black problem really but there is huge dilemma there. Be a "racist" or muh guns. It's no problem for /pol/tards but for normies it is.
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>>78608691
We wont. Us burger bros are too entrenched in gun rights. Besides the NRA would go down swinging and most likely would make any long term gun ban nigh impossible to enforce, even if it somehow was passed. Fucking demicraps don't realize it though.
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>>78601156
And what was the stat before the ban?
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Gun dump
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>>78600507
The constitution is above reason.

>>78608691
Oh they have plenty of patriotism.. Once they leave Mexico of course.
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>>78600885
Fuck yeah
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>>78600507

>pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.

So you're saying you don't have a basic human right to defend yourself? If something attacks you, you just have to let it attack you? That's some real evil, cruel thinking their pal.

You have a right to self-defense, period. Also "because no one would have a gun to attack with you" ignores not only every other weapon that could be used to attack you with (you humanities been killing each other since before guns were a thing right?) but also that OTHER THINGS might attack you, like animals. Hence the right to defend yourself with whatever weapon you need too use.
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>>78608736
What a nice newscast.

A little bit of gloating, but also telling people to be responsible and not go rambo.

Thanks anon.
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>>78608736

>be robber in america
>attempt to rob store
>get shot
>attempt to rob second store
>get shot

kek
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You know about MakerBot?

Yeah, this is a GunMakerBot.
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>>78602208
Too much straw in that man...
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Pic on gun grabbers
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>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense
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>>78600507
By your logic Chicago should be the safest place in America right?

>1/10 troll quality, try harder fggt
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>>78600507
>how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air
How has the military still not won the war against a couple of towel heads with rifles and RPGs?
Your entire argument is crap.
> nobody needs to hunt anymore.
Plenty of people in the US still hunt for food.
See alaska, montana, etc.
> Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people.
No it's not, as shown again and again by the number of people saying they want their guns.
Now shut up.
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>>78608839
Yet they still have some of the worst crime rate until they recently hired an extra 20,000 police to try and bring it under control.

They are looking at the symptoms and not the actual cause.
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>>78600507
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>>78600507
>Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?
I don't have to, the Founding Fathers did, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. You can't fucking >inb4 2nd Amendment. If you want to get rid of the 2nd Amendment then get rid of the 1st so I don't have to listen your whiny fucking cunt ass bitch and moan all the time.
Nice strawman pic btw
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>>78600507

Why do people fall for this shit every time?
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>>78609177
>2016
>not using shaped explosive charges for self defense
You can make this shit out of anything, matches, charcoal, sugar, flour, hand warmers, toilet paper, it doesn't matter. You can obviously also fire it out of a launcher and make them explode on impact.
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>>78609353

This is the kind of shit that finally made Britain tell the EU and it's brilliant politicians to go fuck off.
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>>78609113
Yep, it sure is. Sadly.
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>>78607278
>>78605716

And in posting I now have two, hello shitposting idiots who're incapable of understanding things that aren't memes.

Do you know who even started the "ONE POST" meme? ME. I FUCKING STARTED SAYING BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE. I noticed it first when OP wouldn't reply to me thread after thread.

You guys are misapplying this like you do with fucking everything. Learn to fucking read finally /pol/.

Why is /pol/ so fucking retarded?
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>>78600507
Because I need guns to kill liberal fucking paid kike shill faggots like you. And more importantly, you need guns so you can kill yourself. Please do.
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BAN ASSAULT NIGGERS
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>>78609628
>Have knife and fork in plastic container with lunchbox on the way to work
>Get pulled up by bobby for random inspection
>Dangerous weapon not secured properly
>Herewego.jpg
>Go to jail for 5 years because transporting dangerous butter knife in an unsecured containter

I would tell the politicians to go fuck themselves if they tried to do the same here, not that they have not tried before.
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>>78600507
Here is the perfect place for you OP.
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>>78600507
Nobody hunts wolves homo the hunt deer which are very abundant people enjoy that everyone is different from you grow up.
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>>78609628
Don't blame the EU for this shit.
That is 100% British cuckoldry.
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>>78600507
We're onto you OP.
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>>78603412
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/08/11/mystery-9mm-machine-pistol-seized-europe/
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These fucking bans!!!

It enrages me to think that there are poor impoverished children in this world that are prevented from ever knowing the pleasure of finding that wonderful toy inside a delicious Kinder egg!
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>>78600507

>Most people in America want stricter gun regulations

Most people also want less taxes and more federal programs. The uneducated are always willing to say an idea sounds dandy so long as they don't give it any scrutiny; and they don't.
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>>78600507
because fuck you
because I want one
because come and take them
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>>78610000

>dat chick lean

waste of quads.
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>>78607443
>If you honestly believe guns were the only capable way of killing people you're dead wrong.
of course not, but it's one variable away from the equation. Why people choose to commit suicide by gun instead of hanging themselves. Because it's easy and effective.
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>>78600507
You're a fucking idiot. If you think, let's say, a woman will be safe from a couple of hoodrats "just because they don't have guns either" then you're retarded. As a gay person, I think everyone, including the physically weak,elderly, marginalized (minorities and homosexuals) deserve some means of keeping themselves safe. Also, as a Canadian who hunts for his food, fuck you. Check your fucking grocery store privilege and actually do the research on slaughterhouse cruelty. In addition, so you want the government to have an easy time killing it's citizens in the case of a nationwide crackdown?

Fuck off with your protips, you sexist, racist, homophobic, priviliged fuck.
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>>78600507
>horsey
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>>78609952
add freedom of movement and yea that would be a liberal paradise...
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>>78600507

https://www.google.com/search?q=gun+ownership+to+crime+rates&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&prmd=inmv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6teaF8sHNAhVp54MKHai_CEsQ_AUIBygB&biw=412&bih=652

Even jewgle says you're a fucking dumbass.

Now please, kill yourself, damn!
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>>78610140
ding ding ding
we have a winner
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Saying that gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason. Gun control has already proven to be successful in America. Automatic guns were banned in 1986 and today practically nobody is killed by a fully automatic rifle.

pro tip: more people have been killed by automatic weapons since the ban than before it.

You stupid assuming faggot op.
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>>78609043


>you should cherrypick your data so it fits the narrative i want instead of looking at all factors globally.

You cant think, you cant write, you have no discernable talent.
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>>78600507
>Horsey
>assault rifle
>it's current year
>needs
>militia
>race baiting
>you can't hunt for some reason
>gun deaths as a special class separate from deaths
>gun control works
>give me a reason for you to have a right
>though I've preemptively discounted one of your top reasons
>just as I've discounted your right
Target rich bait is still bait.
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>>78600507
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>>78610312
that dude was based
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>>78600507
>why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

Now, more than ever!
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>>78604705
That guy was his father. He said he would kill himself if he didn't accept him
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>>78609944
>go to only stakehouse in england
>get sent to jail for 4 years and 1mil pound fine
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>>78595936
go away spooky skeltal
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>>78602350
Your webms are neat.
>>
Copypasta
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>>78602649
where was this?
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>>78604866
Yes, we definitely need to make crime illegal. Because criminals won't break laws. They are the finest and most law abiding people you can find. Who are victims of racism.
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>>78610439
Prison transfers are a thing
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>anti-gun cartoons always portray a gun lover as some deranged looking fat fuck
is there a correlation between the two?
aren't most americans fat? do guns make people fat?
also what of the mexicans? they're fatter than us now despite gun control
>rebel flag
state with the highest gun percentage isn't in the south
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>>78609647
>this from the guy that said nobody needs AK-47s
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>>78609944
>if they tried to do the same here, not that they have not tried before.

Keep on eye on their shit down there!
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>>78609043
Comparing 63% countries to 90%white countries is equally as stupid
None of those countries you compared have a 13% nigger population.
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>>78610643
assault rifle is not a vague term. Assault rifle is a rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge (most common being 5.56 and 7.062x39 ) and is capable of select fire modes (semi and burst or full). Assault weapon is a vague term made up by the media.
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>>78611594

His nut job astrologer wife and the Alzheimers finally got to him.
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>>78600507
The second amendment is the only thing standing between the government and the first amendment. Recent years have shown that the government is eager to try to take away constitutional rights. Freedom of speech is under attack across the western world especially in countries like Germany, Sweden, Britain.

Look how well the ragheads did against our trillions of dollars of military might. Military also won't fire on their own citizens.
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>>78611796
Goddamn shame.
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>dindu nuffin
>blame white males
>let's ban all guns

>half jewish, half asian permavirgin shoots up sorority
>blame white males
>let's ban all guns

>half Peruvian, half white man shoots dindu in self defense
>blame white males
>let's ban all guns

>towelhead shoots up gay club
>blame white males
>let's ban all guns

Liberal Logic.
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>>78605716
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>>78611740
The media & gun-grabbing politicians use the two terms interchangeably, so to anyone not familiar with guns the term is suitably vague. They do the same sort of conflation with full & semi automatic.
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>>78610197
SKorea
World #2 ranking in suicide rate
United States
World #50 ranking in suicide rate

It's not the guns retard
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>>78600507
Tell those boys in ISIS they can't beat a conventional army with all those tanks and shit, I'm sure they'll drop their weapons when they realize how smart you are, or behead you and skull fuck you in the name of allah
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>>78612157
The chain is broken.
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>>78600507
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>>78601545
>england
>germany
>sweden
>denmark
all orwellian shitholes where the government is forcing migration onto the people

>japan
They have very strong culture and traditions. The US has no single culture or tradition, which is part of why the 2nd is necessary.
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>>78601377
You mean "You're right. That's why MANPADSs and Javelins should be legal for private ownership", right?
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>>78601672
Kinda off-topic but, no one is gonna point out that "medical errors" number on the top half of the causes of death? That's scary, holy crap
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Cars kill a lot of people. I don't have a car, so my life wouldn't change much if we got rid of them. People don't realize how many lives we could save if we just banned cars.

When the founders said you have a right to travel freely, there is no way they could have envisioned our multi-lane highways with cars going 70-80 mph.

You don't need a souped up car. You just need a little Kia 4 door. Only professionals need trucks. You're probably compensating for something if you want a truck.

There's no reason to own a car. You can get anywhere by walking. Public transportation is an option if the distance is too far, and at least you know a professional is driving. It's mind boggling how easy it is for the average person to get a driver's license.

Yeah, we ban cars for people who misuse them. But we all know they can still get one if they want to. There's no way to stop them so long as we have a nation full of cars.

It's shocking how many people kill other people with cars. We really need to take a closer look at car violence and come up with a common sense solution. It's time.
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>>78603677
You could already tell from the get go that dude was gonna get his shit fucked up. Walks like an idiot, that fucking posture man.
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>>78610106
Oh hey, a summerfag who can't screenshot!
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>>78600507
>Self defense is not a legit reason
Next time, save the obvious shit for the end of your b8post.
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I always laugh at people who say we need more gun control. We already have fuckloads of gun control. The second amendment has been stomped into the dirt so many times, is it any wonder people are refusing to let any more of their rights get taken away?
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>>78607901
>Actually, the Mexican drug criminals could just setup their own gun factories if they wanted to.

While there are plenty of effective firearm designs that can be made with basic shop tools, making them requires a bit more agency and technical know-how than your average piece of subhuman mexican cartel scum is likely to have or to ever encounter.

Besides, if they need guns, Obongo will just give them some.
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>>78600507
Since you do this errrrrrrry day, I'd have hoped you got the message.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
if you don't like it, move. I hear Mexico has plenty of anti gun laws.
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Looks like we are going to have to ban rain the the US now. Where is the outrage!

West Virginia floods: 20 people dead, including two kids

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/west-virginia-floods-deadly/
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>>78613455
Ban assault nature
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>>78600507
Maybe because the cartels will just start bringing in a shitload of guns to the U.S. Thus Criminals are going to have more guns. Also how the fuck are disabled people or weaker people going to able to defend their selves without the great equalizer?
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>>78600507
>Ban all guns
>Mike Tyson becomes king of the world because no one can fight him
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>>78612865
"medical errors" doesn't mean the person wasn't going to die anyway. It can also mean there was a missed chanced to save the person's life - even if only to prolong it. Nevertheless, yes, medicine has not advanced as rapidly as phone technology.
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To protect Korean Supermarkets. Checkm8 m80. Give me another one.
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>>78600507

pro tip: you will be rewarded with a swift bullet to the head if you try to take them
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>>78600507
I just shitted poo from my asshole and thats more intresting than your whole life.
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>>78601815
>UK
>in EU
time for a new infographic
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>>78613719
how are libertarians a bunch of lowlife zip tied crim..

oh wait it's not one of those
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>>78613346

I think that is the worst anti gun control meme for /pol/ I can think of :'D
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>>78600507

>muh rednecks
>all gun owners are confederate flag waving people

I really want to beat the fuck out of Horsey. I'm not even a violent person. I've just had enough of this bullshit ignorance from the left.
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>>78613717
Medical errors are a giant problem. People in the hospital are there because they are having serious issues and they are treated with serious medications. One mistake and they are dead. When my folks are in the hospital I watch them like a hawk and I have stopped them three times now form making potentially lethal fuck ups. They certainly mean to do the very best they can but mistakes can always happen.
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>>78613346
Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Hitler took the guns. Hitler did not take the guns.
The Wiemar Republic instituted strict gun controls, which carried on until the Third Reich loosened those restrictions to allow German citizens to own firearms.
The more you know.
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>>78603337

Exactly, it's another one of those fucking posts from those fucking trolls that will get 262 replies in no time.

Why do pro-gun people even bother responding to this weakass drivel.
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>>78607536
You're allowed to manufacture your own microchips you cuck.
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>>78614310

Yes, Hitlers gun laws were in place till 1973, and I can tell you as a gun owner, I would LOVE to have them now, the were far far far more liberal then our current ones, almost like paradise in comparison.
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>>78614310
Except for Jews
They were banned from manufacture, sale and ownership of firearms and ammunition
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>>78600507
This exact same thread with the very same picture has been posted multiple times over the past weeks

obvious bait, and you fuckers keep falling for it
sage
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>>78600507
>how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?
You be in an area where they would do more damage to themselves than the rebels
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>>78614310

I know you just didn't know ;)
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>>78600507
>Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why THE BEST PERSONAL DEFENSE WEAPON should still be legal in America in 2016?
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>>78614854

Yeah, those were genocidal gun laws, good for the majority very bad for a minority.

What we face now are democidal gun laws, bad for everyone.
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>>78605144
A man amongst boys you are. Has the kikes every day brother.
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>self defense is not a legit reason
Because when you kill the bad guys, they win.
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>>78613961
/pol/ is satire, so it's funny to post ironic things for your viewing pleasure. We have had this discussion for years, so let's play #banassaultniggers then.
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>>78600507
>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you

I stopped right there. If you are a criminal you have zero regard as to whether or not guns are illegal. What is so fucking hard to understand about that
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>>78614717
>obvious bait, and you fuckers keep falling for it
>sage

It's raining hard outside so I can't go shooting today. Might as well goof off here.
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>>78600806
He isn't going to respond, in fact, many people won't respond. Most will say "pepper spray" or "taser" or even call the police, because we all know, the police will be there within nanoseconds.
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>>78615110
AR-10, right?

>>78615240

I meant like because your meme should show victims for whom people would have compassion not some schlomos :D
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>>78600507
Wanna know a country where guns are ilegal?
COME TO MEXICO, YOU FUCKING LIBTARD, I DARE YOU
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>>78615016
>that's different; rights are for majorities, not for minorities
Oh, Hans. You so funnay.
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>>78615400
Then reply with this

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).

Their silence is always music to my ears
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>>78601191
Where did you get that rear?
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>>78601657
absolute shit td
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>>78615579
Actually that might be Tinnitus
Damn concerts and video games
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>>78615504

No, I explained the difference.
Because you don't look into the Details.

We had this exact gun law in Germany till 1974, and it said you could by long guns without registration at the age of 18 without a reason and handguns with registration.

This is heaven compared to what we have now.

So, without the discriminatory parts it was technically better than the law we have know in Germany.

I just wanted to point out that I FUCKING HATE OUR GUN LAWS HERE
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The man with something to protect will prepare for anything. One of those things is the day when our infrastructure stops working, or when mass violence breaks out, or when food becomes scarce.

If you don't own a firearm, you are not ready. If you don't have some food/water in reserve you are not ready. If you are not healthy, you are not ready.

All the cowardly beta males who are afraid of guns will be the first to go. Adult men are threats, and they will be targeted in the chaos. Their women will become slaves for the mob of men who inevitably fill the power vacuum in their area.

A man who isn't ready is a man who doesn't love his family and friends.
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>>78603567
If that was true then it's all the more reason not to trust our own government.
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>>78615240
>bosnian murder rate is similar to other yugoslav countries and not muslim countries.

kek
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>>78615464
I understood.
I've probably got hundreds from threads like this.
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>>78600507
>nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense

I'm a 5'9" 36 year old man with no training. I feel confident I could beat up over 75% of the US population one-on-one and walk-away unharmed.

0.000004% if they had a gun.

Attacking a stranger in America is a death wish.

It is the great equalizer.

If you don't like it, leave.
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>>78616038
Don't be silly, anon. The ATF is an upstanding organization, surely that was just the result of a few bad apples.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html

>ATF agents befriended mentally disabled people to drum up business and later arrested them in at least four cities in addition to Milwaukee.
>In Wichita, Kan., ATF agents referred to a man with a low IQ as "slow-headed" before deciding to secretly use him as a key cog in their sting.
>And agents in Albuquerque, N.M., gave a brain-damaged drug addict with little knowledge of weapons a "tutorial" on machine guns, hoping he could find them one.
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>>78615240
Madagascar isn't black. Not joking, Negroids never ventured 250 miles off the coast of Africa.
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>>78616260

I love guns so much :-(

German gun laws suck so hard but despite that I managed to legally possess 16 firearms. Unfortunately registered.
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>>78604649
Very interesting anon tell us more
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>>78616260

True...
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>>78615504


Its not a bad principle, in fact its quite natural; i support my friends and family before i support others, i support my community before other communities, i support my fellow anglo-celts before i support other europoids, i support europoids before i support other races, i support america before i support other countries, and so on and so forth.

Its all perfectly reasonable, id probably support holy terra before i support xenos too (praise the emperor).
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>>78600507
If a swarm of fugees is coming at me with sharp sticks I'd like a gun please.
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>>78616639

If one little weird fuck with a .22 is coming at me I'd like a gun too.
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>>78600507
(You)

a synonym for "wise man" that starts with "s" and ends with "e" goes in the options field
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>>78610038
His magazine isn't even loaded
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>>78615923
>I just wanted to point out that I FUCKING HATE OUR GUN LAWS HERE
Well that's fine, but the pic under discussion wasn't still a part of you 1970s gun laws, I'm sure.

>>78614310
By the way, the Wiemar Republic's gun control measures were in fact an improvement on what had been before, which was essentially a disarmament order by the victorious powers.

>>78616603
But the concept of support is quite different from a recognition of the right of others somewhere well away from yourself on that list.
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>>78611597
>australians can't own ceramic knives
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>>78604832
Wasn't David K. fucking children?

Well. I guess they could have waited them out.
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>>78617625
Some are and some are not. Well have to send him more ammo along with the Kinder Eggs in the care package.
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>>78617625


Nigs are big on flash, appearances, and style over substance.

Thats actually a big reason for snivvel rights and the popularity of modern grievance monongering; white liberals love blacks because they are entertained by them (from the saftey of their gated community).

If nogs were less gregarious, like gypsies or abbos, there would be *vastly* much less support for them as the most holy and annointed professional victims.

Basically what im saying is leftists are children with plebian entry level taste, and the most harmful politics and ideologies to civilizations survival find their genesis in minds with shallow aesthetic sensibility and imagination.
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>>78600507
>pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense. also you are far more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a family member with a gun than to use it for self defense. owning a gun is simply not a good idea.
Guns are banned here, and the amount of shootings and stabbings is insane, and we can't do ANYTHING to stop it. Feel lucky you stupid cunt, blame the PEOPLE that are causing these crimes. I bet you think Knives and Forks are to blame for obesity
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>>78618837
>falling for page 10 bait
I POST BY THIS ID
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>>78600507


VOTE TRUMP FOR A FREE AMERICA
VOTE TRUMP FOR A STRONG AMERICA
VOTE TRUMP FOR A PROTECTED AMERICA
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