>Spain and Belgium 'would veto an independent Scotland's EU membership'
This clusterfuck keeps getting better by the hour.
Good job Britbongs, I'm proud of you and apologize for all the retarded Germanshills on /pol/ today.
God save the queen!
>>78587363
WORLD WAR 3
WORLD WAR 3
WORLD WAR 3
>>78587363
american shekels for german proxys
Ah oh the other hand we have enough cucks here
>>78587363
Does it need to be unanimous or can we take the gayls in without the vote of Morocco and the Congo?
>>78587363
BASED
The EU cancer is dying
>>78588901
RARE
>>78588901
UNCOMMON FLAG
>>78587363
>no army
>no economy outside of oil
>needs constant bennies
>needed a wall to keep them shitting up villages
>highest rate of stabbings in the first world
who wouldn't want good old Scotland
>>78587363
It is actually weird. We vetoed them before to deprive an hypotetical Catalonian state to enter the EU.
But now the situation is not analogue. Before it was analogue since both Britain and Spain were members, and the case were for a secceding region of a member not entering the EU.
But now it would be a region, a new state, from a non EU country...
I think Spain would allow Scotland aslong as Britain is already completely out of the EU.
>>78588755
>Does it need to be unanimous
I think so
>>78587363
this wasn't obvious? EU doesn't want more debtor countries.
>>78589352
Well that's implying Podemos doesn't win in 2 days and we dont go full yolo balkans like Britain.
YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE MONTHS AGO
DOWN YOU COME, DOWN YOU GO
>>78587363
mfw when Scotland try and leave and bottle it at the polls again.
>Scotcucks BTFO again
Oh god do i love being English
>>78589718
I like how they're bringing up Irish unification too.
> lol what are the loyalists there going to do
> have a war or something
> in Northern Ireland
> no way lmao
>>78587363
>Stay in the UK to stay in the EU
>UK leaves EU
>Can't even get back in the EU if you leave the UK
>>78587363
Of course they wouldn't want a broke ass place like Scotland in the EU.
>>78588901
RARE
A
R
E
>>78587363
thanks guys
POST YFW SCOTTLAND GOT ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED
>scotland is literally stuck with us now
I'm pretty sad desu, thought we'd be rid of Scotland finally.
>>78589254
>Scotland
>First world
LOL
Scots are the niggers of Europe
Oh hoho, I fucking hate the Scotch
You're stuck with your more evolved neighbours, turd sniffers
Civil war 2017
Let me tell you as a Scot that most people who think of Scottish independence, are thinking of the movie Braveheart. It's okay though, we'll just hold the vote on a Sunday, when all the drunk fucking idiots are in a coma.
i thought scotland was supposed to be cool
do they seriously want to be in the EU that badly?
they actually want immigrants ruining their country?
>>78592048
>>78587363
Can a Scot explain to me why your people are such retards? If you want to have Independence why the Fuck do you want to join the EU?
>>78588901
Falkland?
>>78593283
Yeah
They're all nu-males and dykes
Just look at Sturgeon
Vote Farage to be pm http://www.nottinghampost.com/who-should-be-the-next-prime-minister-boris-johnson-nigel-farage-or-michael-gove/story-29439289-detail/story.html
>>78592048
>>78593553
They just really seem to detest the english so if the english want something, apparently the scotts have to hate it.
I dunno.
>>78587363
AHAHAHAHA
haggis shaggers btfo by their own precious EU
>>78593553
They want EU gibsmedats
>>78594011
Is one of their industries subsidized by EU money? Britain put into the EU much more than they got out. I am sure England can give them as much money as hey were getting beforehand if that is the case.
Again, seems like it is nothing more than irrational hatred of England.
>tiny wee country of 5million
>all this seething hatred towards us
why you so obsessed with? it's quite tragic. scotland will be an independent nation in the EU within 5 years, and there's fuck all you, England, Spain or anyone else can do about it.
>>78592468
That would be us... no wait we are the mexicans
>>78593593
The Falklands didn't vote in this referendum, or at least I couldn't find them on the BBC website. Are they independent already? What was the war even for?
>Want to stay in UK
>cucked to UK, scroungers!
>Want to leave UK
>cucked to Europe, you'll never survive alone!
Over a million of us voted leave.
I don't even care anymore about in or out of UK I just hate the EU globalists.
>>78593553
actually it turns out a lot of them would now change their leave vote to stay in the EU as apparently they had no idea what a stupid deision this was
>>78587363
>>78594687
Thats probably from underage kids who couldn't even vote....
>>78594687
>a lot
I've only heard of that one woman
>>78594687
They keep blaming old people for fucking up the vote, but which generation do you think would be the most likely one to type "What is the EU?" into Google?
>>78594687
Stop pushing that retarded forced meme.
Over 30% didn't even vote and are probably some worthless uneducated zombies who were surprised at what was going on.
>>78594606
>Falling for /pol/ memes
Nice proxy Merkel
>>78594569
>independent nation
>within the EU
Nice doublethink pham. I see the SNP have indoctrinated you well.
>>78594569
>independent nation in the EU
>independent
>in the EU
>>78594215
They just like to be in EU i guess
>>78587363
Based Spain.
But I think Belgium has an evil ulterior motive by doing this.
Country Vetos are the best, and this will be the second time Spain gives scottland the dick. The UK better pay them back by giving Catalonia the dick as well.
>>78590027
>not wanting troubles 2.0 loyalist revenge boogaloo
>>78595229
>>78595244
>o-o-oh the big bad eu men are going to take your freedom and all your tax and give you a bazillion immigrants for it
>>>/reddit/
>>78588901
Even as far as Fiji hate for the EU is growing
>>78595712
yes, that was literally the motivation behind many people voting leave.
I am so proud of you Britain, come and cuddle me
Fuck Scotland, hope they leave and the low oil price fucks them anally
Spain is going to change government and Belgium can't ever agree to anything, so i doubt there will be a veto
>>78587363
I would happily trade Gibraltar for help from Spain preventing Scots and their stupid delusions of grandeur from becoming reality
>>78589537
But Podemos doesn't want to leave the EU or the Euro
>>78594621
Oil and pissing off argies
Also Falklands aren't in europe so it doesn't really affect them like Gibraltar
>>78587491
THE SEQUEL YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!
>>78592048
Englishfag here, whilst Scotland has its disproportionately large share of cucks, we must not attack those Scots that voted to leave.
They tried, but really I don't know how we can fix the SNP problem?
Maybe the right wing Scots want to move to England? Come home right wing man.
>>78596044
We need Gibraltar, it's a naval port and docking station for nuclear submarines. Gibraltar will be protected regardless of what the Spics do.
>>78587363
>Spain
>Belgium
The two most irrelevant countries in the EU, what about them? Apart from the EU HQ being in Brussels, they both have no power, especially Spain, which is a dead weight to the EU at the moment.
Scotland and Northern Ireland will most certainly secede, stop deluding yourselves into believing otherwise.
>>78587363
Why? Are they trying to bully Scottland into staying in the UK? Is this cause Belgium and Spain know that shits about to go down in the EU or something?
>>78593283
Scotland is the Sweden of Britain
>>78596278
>Scotland and Northern Ireland will most certainly secede, stop deluding yourselves into believing otherwise.
They won't, not Northern Ireland anyway they literally cannot.
It would trigger a second troubles. They also have no economic means of self sustainability.
They really don't, they are the biggest receivers of English money under the Barnett Formula.
>>78596278
To add, they do have power in the EU parliament, they can block the entry of Scotland.
They said they would stop Scotland getting into the EU during the Scottish independence referendum.
And a Veto from Spain is enough to stop the Scots from getting in. You don't know a lot about the EU.
>>78587363
blabla.uk
>.UK
really nigga?
scots aint buying that
Thanks Spain bros and Belgium bros
>>78596383
Cause there are regions in those countries that want independence in a similar fashion to Scotland and they don't want anything that might encourage that.
>>78593283
The islanders are pretty cool and dome of the highlands too.
But Glasgow and Edinburgh? Utter cancer.
>>78596063
If anything, Podemos is even exacerbating and speeding up the EU's work for them.
>>78595419
Wow it's like they don't want to be dependent on us or something. Stupid uneducated voters voting against their best interest of being dependent on us.
>>78596278
It doesn't matter how irrelevant they are. Only a single country needs to veto a decision to make it fall through. Scotland isn't joining the EU.
>>78596383
It's because Spain has a problem with Catalonia and the Basques demanding independence and the Spanish government has flat out refused to even give them a referendum.
If Scotland is admitted to the EU it will then set a precedent and it will cause even more problems for the Spanish government.
>>78588901
Based Fiji
>>78596463
United Ireland
Do agree i doubt it would go through though
>>78597010
The Republic of Ireland couldn't afford to pay for what we currently pay to keep it.
And it wouldn't go down well, we'd see another conflict and the loyalists would go completely insane.
I don't want that, the Irish don't want that considering we now have a good-ish relationship with the Republic of Ireland and I would like that to continue.
>>78590027
To be honest, I would want to see an Irish unification.
>>78594687
>news everywhere going "OH FUCK IT'S ALL OVER LEAVE WON BREXIT = APOCALYPSE"
>people google "wuts all dis commotion about"
>read sea of white people explaining that Leave votes are literally Hitler and a fringe minority who will soon be violently eradicated
>claim "oh, uh, so sorry, I only voted Leave by mistake, heheh"
>>78597320
I'd like to see it but it's just not going to happen.
Sadly. And I'd like even closer ties between England and Ireland.
But again I don't think that will happen, I mean we get on now but yeah.
>>78597209
They'd probably get more handiouts from the EU if N.Ireland joined
>scotland declare independence
>have to cut a significant percentage of their budget
>don't even get into the EU
>3 mil pop, will get overrun by muslims within months
>become third world irrelevant shithole
>>78587363
>2014 news
>the source is not from Spain or Belgium
now you are grasping at straws
>>78587363
>It's real
Oh god can this day get any better
>>78587363
European cooperation at its finest.
Thanks, Belgium. We're even now.
>>78597689
Welp, time to refurbish Hadrian's Wall.
>>78597563
We can hope. Northern Ireland is fucking depressing. England and Ireland having closer ties is impossible and Northern Ireland will now be further ignored in Westminster. We might as well not exist.
YESSS GET FUCKED SCOTS
>>78589633
You really want to keep us around don't you? I think at the heart of every /pol/ thread like this is that the English really do love us. We don't always return that love though. No matter how much we mistreat and take advantage of England she keeps taking us back. Even when England's family tells her she can do better, she just starts crying and pleading for her friends and family to understand that she's in love with Scotland. Scotland is charming and witty and England couldn't imagine herself without him. Some days England just lays in bed wondering why Scotland hurts her so. She rationalises that Scotland only hit her that one time because he was angry and he really meant it when he apologised the day after. England will just do what she can to be the best wife she can be, in the hope that one day, maybe, Scotland will return her feelings. It's ok to feel the way you do England. It makes you human. x x
>>78587363
HAHAHA
Haggis BTFO
Paddy BTFO
Jamal BTFO
You are leaving the EU and there is nothing you can do about it.
I love this. Scotland is the epitome of white guilt liberals fucking over other whites. I can't believe I was lied to about Scots by Braveheart. Scots are the biggest leftist twats ever.
>>78594606
>Catholic
>decent food
>drug addicts
>criminal
>tight family units
>go to nicer countries and ruin them
Checks out, but you apply that to everything in Eastern Europe.
>>78587363
HOLY SHIT SPAIN AND BELGIUM YOU GLORIOUS MOTHERFUCKERS
GET IN ON YOUR OWN -EXITS AND JOIN THE CLUB
>>78594687
This is beyond wrong. It's shilling at it's fucking worst.
What happened was all the remain faggots voted "remain" and never possibly thought that "leave" would win. Then when they lost, they all went "Oh fuck - what are we losing? I don't know because I'm a libcuck, so I better figure it out," and started Googling it.
The "leave" voters knew exactly what they were doing.
>>78593761
I have basically summed up Scots as the ex gf who makes it her life's mission to screw her ex bf for life at any costs. Scots just vote based on how it will fuck over England.
>>78598213
I was shocked to see how much they voted against leaving the EU.
Scots? More like Scucks.
>>78598232
Sameproxyfag.
Stop it lads, we tried.
Almost 40% of us did
Never forget 15 million of your own countrymen voted against freedom
You should understand what it's like to have a large number of idiots
>>78588901
Based Fiji.
>>78588901
Yo dog you into kava?
>>78588901
Anyone with a Union canton is welcome in the fatherland
>>78588901
FIJI EUROSCEPTICISM ON THE RISE
FIJEXIT WHEN
>>78598533
Honestly if Scots want to be independent without the EU I would sympathise.
But it's obvious they just want to be independent from England, not the EU
>>78597948
Do you really, really believe that?
England gets a lot of hate but who comes to the rescue of the nations in this United Kingdom?
England bails you out in 1707 after the Darien failure.
England bails you out when your oil industry is about to collapse.
England protects the Welsh from Roman occupation by sacrificing themselves in battle.
England was the only nation to offer the Irish a bailout during the Irish banking crisis, when we gave them a loan, the IMF and ECB then decided to give them a loan.
When the chips are down, England will help you. It would just be nice if we sometimes got a thank you for it.
That's all we ask, a thank you. A little recognition.
But nope..
>>78594687
It has not yet even been a day
How in the fuck do you think this is representative of the next few decades
Separate Scottish flags for 4chan WHEN?? I need to be able to identify these cucks.
>>78587363
>"Ruairi Quinn*, former president of the EU's finance council, predicts secssionist movements in both countries would block membership application"
>No date.
*a former Irish Labour Party politician. i.e. not a current Spanish/Belgian government official.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-headline-is-always-a-lie/
>>78595712
>national pride
I think you may be getting your buzzwords mixed, newfriend
>>78587363
Lmao, picts are slaves for life.
Oh come on Europe, please take Scotland.
We don't want them either.
Oh well, maybe now they'll stop acting so high and mighty and know their place.
>>78599099
>picts are slaves for life.
Picts were wiped out m8.
>>78597948
You've entirely misinterpreted the situation I'm afraid, Jock. We keep you around to utterly fucking humiliate you. We know you despise and loathe us and nothing gives us greater satisfaction than knowing you cucks are suckling on our teet and under our thumb while crying in impotent rage.
>>78593683
That's not funny.
Stop shilling that bullshit
He is a liar and is dangerous
>>78598796
I can't lie. I voted for independence from England but only because I hoped it would light a fire under Westminster and force them to reform the system to a more democratic ine (maybe more federal)
I never wanted to stay in the E.U. and I can't understand nationalists that do. It's 100 times more unusual democratic than Westminster.
It does unfortunately expose the anti-English anti-Tory rhetoric that people are willing to sell out their country to avoid ;_;
I am however hopefully, there are many like myself that voted out of both and would never want to re-enter the e.u (I reckon a majority) and are happy to stay within the UK now that some democracy has been restored.
I think the first thing the government needs to do is give England its own national parliament.
Not Westminster. We really do need some English representation because we get fucked over a lot.
Also repeal the handgun law in England, keep it in Scotland if you want but repeal it in England. I want a sexy handgun.
>>78599391
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE
>WAAAAAAAAAAA
>>78597209
Sinn Feinn aren't taken seriously in Ireland anymore, so don't worry about that at all.
>>78589254
>no army
Even if this was the case, Iceland [the other side of the GIUK gap.] has no army.
>no economy outside of oil
The oil price collapse caused an economic contraction of something like 1%. Hardly "no economy outside oil."
>needs constant bennies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-36537556
Even after employment fell:
>The number of people claiming Job Seeker's Allowance (JSA) fell by 500 between April and May to 57,100. The figure is 19,200 lower than a year ago.
>needed a wall to keep them shitting up villages
A wall entirely within the north of England.
>>78596278
> Spain is irrelevant
>the single biggest eu producer of farm good and tourism destination
>>78599494
I'm not talking about the Republicans chimping out, I'm talking about Northern Ireland chimping out.
The Ulster Defense Force, the other paramilitary groups would go absolutely nuts, they'd bomb things. We would see a troubles 2.0 started by Loyalists.
Scotcucks BTFO!!!!!! Nobody wants those leeches.
>>78598517
Sorry, forgot about Southern Europe. You're worse, at least the Slavs look white.
>>78599743
A
FUCKING
GIMP
>>78599562
You know those on Employment and Support Allowance are classed as "Self Employed" due to the Workfare thing?
Yeah.
>>78598798
>England bails you out in 1707 after the Darien failure.
England bailed out Scottish noblemen. The government was solvent.
>England bails you out when your oil industry is about to collapse.
After concealing the full extent of the strength of that economy until around the 2000s.
"...They concluded that his findings had been accurate, and that the average income in Scotland would increase by up to 30% per head if the country became an independent state. They also concluded that Scotland's "economic problems would disappear", and it would become "the Kuwait of the Western world"
The report also contains a line to the extent of "The only thing wrong with the SNP figures [widely derided as fantastically high] is that they are much too low."
That buggery alone is reason to never trust the UK again.
>>78598533
>You should understand what it's like to have a large number of idiots
You know nothing m8. We had burgers take a hot steaming shit over our people and country and it was the biggest improvement we have seen in centuries.
>>78589352
>I think Spain would allow Scotland
they won't until anything catalonia related is resolved. Those retards still don't recognize kosovo and tried to block any eu negotiations (but were bypassed by the eu)
>countries that not recognize kosovo
> Argelia, Argentina, Azerbaiyán, Bielorrusia, Chipre, Georgia, Eslovaquia, España, Kazajistán, Moldavia, Rumania, Rusia, Sri Lanka, Venezuela, Vietnam
spain among a great group of first world nations
>>78599338
Yeah, all this free shit really makes me mad. Kek.
We win again
Can the UK be called the United Kingdom now or has it become too divided? I feel we will go federal.
this article is from 2014
>>78593283
>they actually want immigrants ruining their country?
Immigration is a non-issue in Scotland.
>>78599974
See.
Not a thank you in sight.
No self respecting union would allow such a new and volatile nation to join anyway.
>>78600222
Anyone got that picture of "Welcome to my upper class suburb" with the white family smiling at diversity posters?
>>78600238
I would have thought England of all places would understand that "We give you all this money!" isn't a fucking substitute for sovereignty.
When it turns out you filled your pockets at our expense while leaving areas of Scotland impoverished, you don't even have that argument.
>>78593283
Scot here
The big cities where the majority of people live are cuck breeding grounds.
Highlanders and islanders are pretty based
>>78599676
What I'm saying is that the average Irishman isn't into a second troubles either. The Status Quo is fine for now.
>>78599562
Iceland isn't in the EU. They decided not to join earlier in the year.
>>78598213
The Scots are the villains in Braveheart.
>>78598213
>60%
>>78600491
London alone makes £1.2 trillion alone without Scottish oil.
England has more oil under Gatwick (being pumped out as we speak) than the entire North Sea oil field.
So your argument doesn't really stand up, we haven't filled our pockets at "your" expense, you want to have a go at leechers to the UK? Look at Northern Ireland and Wales (sorry Wales I love you but yeah).
Don't you fucking dare accuse us English of lining our pockets with "your" money, "your" oil money is spent on pathetic things like free prescriptions and free University for everyone in Europe except the English, Welsh and Northern Irish.
So yeah that's a nice fuck you to the people in the union that have helped you... Nice one.
And you claim to be impoverished? London alone has 5 of the UK's worst, most run down, poorest areas.
So don't cry about poverty to me you little bitch.
>>78600817
On defence, that's next to irrelevant.
The UK was mercilessly cucked in territorial disputes with Iceland [who had no army at the time either] because Iceland [strategically important location, Scotland is on the other side of those waters and similarly important.] threatened not to join NATO if the UK didn't concede.
It's actually quite a funny story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars
>>78595522
We want our glorious enemy to keep being glorious
>>78601147
It might be a funny story but it cost Scotland a load of their fishing waters.
>>78587363
Scotland is fucked now
>>78587363
So will others see how selfish the countries are in the EU and hasten other exits?
Good riddance
>>78587363
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
>>78587491
Third times the charm
>>78597948
Welshman here. I do actually want Scotland to remain in the UK. Now more than ever we need to be a United Kingdom. Let's not fight right now, let's go forward together as one.
>>78595522
>The UK better pay them back by giving Catalonia the dick as well
mmm you do know uk has voted to leave the eu?
>>78587491
nah, unless Germany does something there will never be a WW3.
World Wars only happen when Germany does something silly.
>>78601484
Thanks based Welshbro
Also congrats on the vote
>>78596383
Spain has a bunch of different regions trying to seek independence, the main one being Catalonia and the Basque country.
Belgium is a meme country that is two regions of two different countries smooshed together and they don't like each other.
>>78599998
So close to quins.
>>78601111
>London alone makes £1.2 trillion alone without Scottish oil.
And it made even more thanks to it.
>England has more oil under Gatwick (being pumped out as we speak) than the entire North Sea oil field.
And that was discovered in 1975?
>"your" oil money is spent on pathetic things like free prescriptions and free University
Laughably wrong.
Scottish Labour imposed tuition charges and university fees when they were in power in Holyrood. When the SNP took power, even with declining budgets, the reallocated spending.
Free university was funded by cuts elsewhere, not by subsidy to Scotland. If you cut Scotland's budget to the bone free tuition would remain.
>have helped you
Let me state it again, just in case you missed it:
The UK government commissioned a report on the possible finances of an independent Scotland in the 1970s with control of her own oil revenue.
They concluded it would be so laughably rich as to risk a problem with having too much fucking money.
This report was concealed and the SNP continually derided for using "fantastic" figures for how rich Scotland could be, when the reality was those figures were too fucking low.
But thanks for bailing out some noblemen a few hundred years ago, I appreciate it.
>London alone has 5 of the UK's worst, most run down, poorest areas.
And it's your own cunt governments that've failed to fix them. Maybe if you could extract the oil under Gatwick without annoying middle class homeowners...
>>78587363
theres only 3 types of people wanting scotland to have another referendum
>Nicola Sturgeon who needs to keep her party from falling apart
>literal mongs who watch too much braveheart
>liberal mongs that want to divide and conquer/refuse to acknowledge reality
40% wanted out of the EU
55% wanted to remain in the UK
fuck the fags, if scotland tries to hold another referendum i'm jumping the border.
>>78589254
Its the european mexico
>>78587363
Anyone got the video with the Scottish guy dressed like William Wallace voting to stay in the United Kingdom anyway?
>>78601861
>55% wanted to remain in the UK
When they were told that voting to remain in the UK was the only way to remain in the EU.
The OP article is, amusingly, from 2014.
The smell of war is in the air.
>>78601636
English man here, I feel the same way, you right wing Scots just need to get more vocal, as long as the left cucks think their opinions are the norm they will keep shilling
>>78587363
>The hamlet of Scotland
>>78596803
The logic is sound though.
Countries dealing with renegade provinces absolutely do not want to set a precedent, it's a matter of national priority.
It's why china and Russia support the united states against Islamic extremists, they have the same problem internally.
They would otherwise love to meddle and make things harder for them.
>>78587363
well no surprise there are already enough leeches in the EU, Spain fears for its money.
>>78601484
It would be poetic justice if the entirety of the UK splits apart.
>Northern Ireland joins the rest of Ireland. Ireland joins the EU
>Scotland secedes, joins the EU
>Wales and England stay together because why not I guess
Then England loses access to the natural resources of Scotland and Ireland. Like fishing and oil drilling off the north of Scotland.
England is completely fucked if this happens, and it's more likely then not for this to happen in the UK's current state.
>>78601842
>And it made even more thanks to it.
The Scottish oil money as well as extra money generated by City of London is handed back to Scotland via a budget and via the Barnett Formula.
>And that was discovered in 1975?
No recently, but even since 1975 your oil hasn't generated as much tax as England has via financial services industry and arms industry but ok.
>Laughably wrong.
Scottish Labour imposed tuition charges and university fees when they were in power in Holyrood. When the SNP took power, even with declining budgets, the reallocated spending.
Free university was funded by cuts elsewhere, not by subsidy to Scotland. If you cut Scotland's budget to the bone free tuition would remain.
Well you are in charge of your own budget, you voted in Scottish Labour, that's your problem.
In regards to the rest of your diatribe, go fuck yourself you ungrateful piece of shit.
I've tried to defend you fuckers in every thread you're getting called out on for being cucks.
That ends now.
>>78597209
Ireland probably doesn't want the dead weight now of Northern Ireland. Maybe 20 years ago.
Now, the Republic has done so well who really wants those cranky Ulster Scots.
>>78602311
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35586932
We're fine for oil, and coal and silver and fishing.
etc.
>>78601484
Englishman living in Wales here. Fuck you. Scotland needs to go. They aren't "Croeso" in the UK. That's right I read the sign outside of Tesco. ;)
>>78602446
It's a big deal though, m8. The majority still comes either from imports or from the North Sea.
>>78601615
>Germany
Pretty sure you mean Austria.
>>78601636
Thank you. Let's not break up now after hundreds of years of fighting, prospering, and working together as one union. Let's show the world that we are united and we can continue to prosper with or without the EU.
>>78601484
This. Beware of the international divide and conquer.
>>78601861
>>Nicola Sturgeon who needs to keep her party from falling apart
>>liberal mongs that want to divide and conquer/refuse to acknowledge reality
Reminder that those pseudo-"Nationalists" only want to change the colour of the fingernails, while the hands and the rest of the body will continue to belong to the same globalist owners.
>>78600018
The stance on the matter Spain has at the moment barely matters, elections literally in a couple of days, things are probably going to change plenty.
>>78602314
>is handed back to Scotland via a budget and via the Barnett Formula.
During the boom years, this failed to give Scotland a fraction of what was being earned on oil.
By the time Scotland had her own parliament, UK oil production had peaked.
>but even since 1975 your oil hasn't generated as much tax as England has via financial services industry and arms industry but ok.
You're comparing a country of 5 million to a country of 60 million.
Had Scotland had control of oil located in her own territorial waters, she would be far richer than she was getting handed back pennies by Barnett.
Barnett wasn't even created to compensate fucking oil wealth, it was to compensate disproportionate income tax per head. [Not a higher rate, but a quirk of rich people living in a small population.]
>In regards to the rest of your diatribe, go fuck yourself you ungrateful piece of shit.
Ah yes, I'm ungrateful that we're shackled to a plunging currency and a London-centric economy when just across the sea lies a country with an embarrassingly sized oil fund and a surplus. I should be so greatful. After all, you bailed out noblemen 300 years ago, and you give us a few good-will pennies now that you've bled our natural resources dry...
>>78587363
>stay in the UK because they thought they wouldn't get EU membership
>they get kicked out anyway
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>78602772
Hopefully they won't. Otherwise we're fucked.
>>78587363
It was strange atmosphere sitting on the train this morning in London during rush hour. It was eerily quiet. The whole of London practically voting to remain, there was definitely an air of defeat, and severe disappointment. I saw a woman crying on the bus. This truly is evil triumphing over good. And there is definetely a very obvious divide in the country, with the voting ratio almost 50:50. I expect a lot of tension in the next coming years.
Pride in London is tomorrow, so a bit of positivity in such a shocking time. Though, as a volunteer, I am slightly afraid of tensions. But we will stand in solidarity, we will not go down without a fight.
>>78602311
>>78602680
Would they have the logistics to sell all of on their own though?
>>78602311
Oil is about 1% of the UK economy and we've been screwed in regards to fishing for years. Northern Ireland won't leave, but Scotland might. I don't care about their economy, I care about our history together.
>>78602466
Scotland will always be welcome in the UK in my eyes. We have disagreements, but we've done a lot to help each other out. We've given each other so much over these hundreds of years, it would be a shame to see them go.
>>78602943
>Hopefully they won't.
>Otherwise we're fucked.
As oppose to what we have gotten for several years now which is...?
I mean I don't want to start this here but come the fuck on, the current government is a joke.
>>78589254
Give Scotland a few more years and they will make Venezuela look like paradise.
Scots are simply incapable of anything besides sitting on their asses and collecting government benefits and buggering any young male warmer than room temperature.
>>78587363
EU DOESN'T EVEN WANT SCOTLAND!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>78603059
Yeah you're right, it's not huge, but it does provide a lot of jobs.
I'm just saying if the UK does decide to split up it's a big deal, historically and economically. It's looking like they could split up the UK, which would be bad.
>>78602971
Pretty sure the EU would help them set up ways to get a supply chain going.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-black-gold-was-hijacked-north-sea-oil-and-the-betrayal-of-scotland-518697.html
Remember Scotland, you should be grateful.
>Scotland's currency "would become the hardest in Europe, with the exception perhaps of the Norwegian Kronor." From being poorer than their southern neighbours, Scots would quite possibly become richer. Scotland would be in a position to lend heavily to England and "this situation could last for a very long time into the future."
>At the time of Professor McCrone's report to the cabinet office, the SNP claimed that North Sea Oil would yield £800 million a year for the government by 1980. Professor McCrone's main criticism of their analysis was that their forecasts were "far too low". He put the sum at about £3 billion.
It's nothing really. Just in the past. It doesn't say anything about the trustworthiness of the UK.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/switzerland/news/article.cfm?l_id=100&objectid=10360042
>...North Sea oil could have made an independent Scotland as rich as Switzerland.
>Scotland would be in a position to lend heavily to England, a situation that could last "for a very long time".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/6240671/North-Sea-oil-gave-Scotland-massive-budget-surplus-say-Government-records.html
England doesn't need you and subsidized you for decades out of sheer kindness. :)
> England would have faced “difficult years” of adjustment following the break-up, complete with higher taxes and unemployment, but would have bounced back relatively quickly.
> “An independent Scotland could now expect to have massive surpluses both on its budget and on its balance of payment, and with the proper husbanding of resources this situation could last for a very long time into the future,” his report said.
But remember, Scotland has always been too wee, too poor and too stupid.
>>78601484
I voted 'yes' to independence, glad it didn't happen.
I really hope we jocks aren't so fucking stupid that we won't give the non-EU UK a shot, even for just a couple of years.
I also really hope that it is the case that the EU is only interested in the UK as a complete package, not just an independent Scotland.
>>78603400
Oil provides jobs mostly to the Scottish. Fishing can still be done in the English channel, I don't think Scottish independence would have a huge impact on it. It would hit both the rest of the UK and Scotland economically. But I'm more concerned about history and culture. We are stronger together.
Daily Reminder that Ireland did the nationalism thing first on the British Isles and now they've passed Wales, Scotland, and N. Ireland the fuck out.
God man, the Scots always get the shit end of the stick.
>>78597948
I want to marry England
>>78603752
That oil will eventually run out and oil prices are going down. It would have no EU, no UK, no Pound or Euro. What is it going to do?
reminder that their is literally nothing wrong with the EU
>tfw England will never breed the Scot out of you
>>78604107
>That oil will eventually run out and oil prices are going down
And had we been independent in 1970 we could have made alternative arrangements to invest our embarrassing wealth.
Instead it went to dole payments for those left unemployed UK-wide in the 80s.
>What is it going to do?
Create a new currency. :^)
>>78603059
>Hey, Remember Scotty?
>Yeah what about him?
>Remember how we would fight all the time and I would rape the fuck our of whatever woman he was with?
>Oh fucking good times ol' chap.
>Yeah.. Then he got some balls and went all brave and had some heart. I respected him for a bit after that.
>Fuck yeah... What's ol' Scotty been up to these days?
>He wants to let North African Niggers and East Indian Sand Niggers in to rape his women.
>Jesus we fucked him up didn't we...
>I guess we did... I miss Scotty though.
>>78587363
>A FUCKING SKIRT
The problem with Scotland is that it's full of Scots
>>78587491
Better yet just unleash all Volcanoes. At least if anyone survives it will be a "Natural" Pandemic.
>>78603913
The Republic of Ireland? You mean that place where 1 in 10 people over the age of 18 don't have a job? I'm so jealous. I respect the Republic of Ireland and its people. But saying they've "passed us the fuck out" is silly.
>>78604363
;-;
>>78604404
Can I be anglonised pls
>>78597948
Scotland are still fkn peasants.
>>78603310
Leagues above than pig-disgusting Podemos. Do you want to become Greece, you retard? Because that's how you become Greece.
t. Vox voter
>>78588901
A E S T H E T I C
R A R E
So do they call Fiji water there, just "water"?
>>78604757
We are. We can be happy if we accept we are made to serve England
There's nothing wrong with being a cuck for England. I wouldn't want anyone else
>>78604610
The point is that they became an independent nation, with their own identity, and have been successful at it. There is no questioning that.
They are in the top 10 in most categories worldwide (including higher test scores than England). You have to ask yourself if Scotland would do the same? And why haven't you?
>>78604610
>1 in 10 people over the age of 18 don't have a job?
Ireland is ~8.4% unemployed to Britain's 5%
It also has higher GDP per capita, both nominal and PPP.
>>78600698
did the jews specifically target you?
why is this?
>>78604742
Come to Canada, Scottish brother.
9/10 Chance every girl wants your cock if you have a thick enough accent (that they can still understand to a degree). They could be coal burning nigger lovers, but the moment they hear that Scot's accent they'll fucking swoon. I mean as a Nova Scotia cunt I like the accent myself, but the women literally drop panties over it.
>>78599450
Firearms allowed in the UK? As a firearms slingin', cheeseburger chewin', fat-assed rascal ridin through the aisles of Walmart American I think it's a FANTASTIC idea.
You gonna need all the firearms you can get to defend yourselves from the EU army when they attempt to reenroll by force, that and to defend yourselves when the Muslims finally go all out and collectively stab you in the back.
>>78604859
Yes. In fact, the Fiji water company just steals regular folks' water to give to us, so the actual people from actual Fiji can't even drink their own water. So I guess it's not even called water, it's just called nothing.
>>78604770
>>t. Vox voter
>Literally voting for a meme party
>>78605019
Scotland is nothing without the UK
If we ever left I would kill myself
>>78595419
East Yorks master race here
>>78604298
Maybe you could have if you were independent 46-years-ago. But this is now. Somehow I don't think the currency will work out.
>>78604363
Also the wars we fought together. The inventions we shared. Our influences on each others culture. Or the economy we share. We have fair share of disagreements no doubt, but our shared history and culture and economy outweigh these disagreements for me. We can change people's minds. It's much harder to stop them being independent. Plus I just like Scots in general.
>>78600018
Isnt spain a bunch of stupid beaners anyway?
>>78587363
This article is from 2014 you fucking nonce.
>>78605290
>Somehow I don't think the currency will work out.
Even if it doesn't, sometimes you have to take the necessary difficulties.
The events of the 1970s merely underscore why the UK cannot be trusted to act in our best interests.
>The inventions we shared. Our influences on each others culture. Or the economy we share. We have fair share of disagreements no doubt, but our shared history and culture and economy outweigh these disagreements for me.
You could apply all of this to France.
Political union is not required for friendship between Scotland and the other nations of the UK.
>>78605100
But troudou...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGJ9km4yy4M
>>78605189
>water niggers
sheeiiit
>people in my country actually want an Englishman, born in England, to English parents, raised in England, taught in England, with an English accent and English political leanings and culture to be able to rule our country
>they are actually happy with a person from an entirely different and seperate country controlling our country
>they ACTUALLY VOTED TO KEEP THIS
Unionists make my fucking skin crawl. hopefully there will be a long, cold, hard winter and lots of the pensioners i.e 50% of the unionist vote will die off this winter.
>>78605019
Because I believe we're stronger together, not divided and we can retain our identities while being together. I'm not sure what top 10 categories means by the way. Or test scores.
>>78605290
Agreed, from a Canadian perspective. You two countries have some serious love/hate history together. You can't simply part after all this time. You're in it for the record at this point.
France bailed, they could have had the title of longest ally/enemy hate/love, but they don't seem to be much of anything from what I hear these days.
I took a trip through the highlands in Scotland. Beautiful country. The people were all as nice as my countrymen. Realistic meals (except sheep's intestine stew, fuck that shit), hearty laughs, genuine love from them, good folk the Scots.
>>78605212
And this why the Irish and the English are the alphas of the British Isles. And The Scots are the cucks.
Glad we had this little therapy session.
>>78588901
True. Now go pump me some water you coconut nigger. Don't eat your coworkers either please and thanks
>>78605491
>>78587363
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2014/09/15/spain-is-unlikely-to-veto-an-independent-scotlands-eu-membership/
> Spain unlikely to veto
6 months later
Look I can find stories out of date and irrelevant stories to support my argument too.
>>78605212
kill yourself now instead please, you despicable, pathetic little self-loathing sack of cum.
genuinely hope you get hit by a bus :)
No more sand niggers raping our woman, that's the uk I want.
>>78605673
you have literally nothing to gain from leaving.
>>78601615
>Ireland invades North Ireland
>Germany supports with troops
>UK declares war on germany
>Russia invades poland
>France Declares war on German
MAKE IT HAPPEN KEK
>>78588901
You have the nicest black people on earth, fuckin Fiji is awesome
>>78605598
Anyone you talk with outside of a major city literally laughs at the man. We all know "Life father, Like son." His dad was a commie block loving meme lord cunt, so is he. No one takes him or his policies seriously. Hell when he went to change the national anthem to include mutligenders, some woman that was singing it knew he was attending the ceremony she sung it at and blurted the line "and all our SONS command!".
Kids and ignorant weak immigrants (imply they left their country instead of fixing situations surrounding them) that can barely work a C-Class job voted for him.
Come, we'll fish, we'll hunt, we'll laugh by the fire. We'll drink until the night's day. I hope you can deal with the bugs though.
>>78605660
;_;
I feel this way when England wants rid of us
>>78605673
21 years here.
Voted no on the Indy ref and leave in the EU ref
Fuck Scottish separatism. We are not a fucking race or special
Just spiteful racist contrarian pricks
>>78605033
Yes, just under 1 in 10. And yes, you're very right. It does.
>>78605789
I agree.
I fucking despise Scottish nationalists.
We need to be better towards the UK and do MORE for the UK
>they are actually happy with a person from an entirely different and seperate country controlling our country
>votes to stay in the EU
>>78606474
>the scottish cringe
sorry you were raised wrongly, champ.
do us all a favour and fuck off to england, you self loathing cunt
>>78606733
actually seriously consider killing yourself, or getting the fuck out of my country.
what a pathetic cunt.
>>78587363
>clusterfuck
indeed
>>78595419
Fucking shocking regression analysis. Send that fucker back to applied linear models
>>78605912
All it took was looking at the history books to realise how pathetic being a scot is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1tJJO_pVvQ
I'd rather suck English cock than EU cock.
Oh wait. I actually have sucked an English cock :3
>>78606141
>France declares war on Germany
I actually never thought the day would come where I would disagree with this. Germany and France have always been historic enemies and it is their conflict which has led to both world wars.
However, the UK leaving the EU might have made Germany and France get even closer. Congrats Brits for that.
>>78606748
>>78606903
I gotta a million and the rest of the UK on my side
>>78598533
Remember that ~40% of Scotts voted leave.
They are truly kinsmen of all real Europeans.
They are your brothers, Brits.
>>78605540
If you believe you can actually go independent and print your own currency with only a bit of hardship you're in for a shock. There's a reason why the SNP want the pound.
The UK and France did not share all of this while in a union. A union which is now hundreds a years old. A union that people have died for. It's not required, but it would dampen it.
>>78606058
Except actual freedom and liberty you fucking retard.
What did the UK have to gain from leaving the EU? Oh right, it gained the right to tell migrants to fuck off, wow, so much freedom and liberty. The English are tyrannized no more and live with freedom in their blood.
Not. Fucking retard. The Scots have everything to gain, they have a true national identity and have nothing in common with the English. Please, to every Scot reading this, fulfill the wishes of your ancestors and liberate Scotland from England. It is time to complete Wallace's purpose and fill the graves of every brave Scot with the blood of English rats.
>>78587363
Cuckland BTFO again
>>78597209
I'd like a united ireland on emotional grounds but you're right. What the fuck would NIreland even add to our economy besides flag making.
>>78595036
kek
>>78607703
>The Scots have everything to gain
It's a case of a parasite wanting a new host, nothing more nothing less. SNP are simply acting like whores to the highest paycheck. There will be no """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Independence"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
t. Scotfag
>>78606733
>>78606474
I feel the same. Voted leave too.
I wish I was never born a filthy jock
I'm ashamed of being the traitors of this EU ref. I wish for the genocide of Scotland by England the same way leftists want the genocide of whites.
We are fucking pathetic trash
>>78607547
Moray was close to a leave vote.
Only 100 votes off
>>78588901
SYLVIA
