Well, now that everything is blowing up, it's time to pol to decide what should I put inside the envelope, because I'm going full blank/null vote.
Just tell me what says kek's will.
im voting ciudadanos cuz their leader is an anti-independance catalan xd
>>78569399
Vote PP faggot
Iglesiaas is pure evil
>>78569787
great x-d
>>78570004
Iglesias is pure evil, but I'm not voting a rotting party mate that also is a cancer to this country.
>>78569399
pp/psoe/cs - same shit as always, eu shills, ibex shills and pro refugee sjws
podemos - different shit but still shit, pro refugee sjws
you can also vote a regional party or pacma
>>78570257
What would you prefer?
Brain cancer or something treatable like skin cancer?
>>78569399
Vote the people who want to give you jobs
>>78570511
>you can also vote a regional party or pacma
Enjoy voting for nothing.
>>78570605
I would prefer not having cancer
vote vox because they are antibully and anti feminazi
>>78569399
Throw your vote to the bin, vote VOX
>>78570511
>pacma
They are SJWs
>>78570721
>>78569399
PP, also Rajoy is a mememaster
>>78570812
You all tios need Franco back
>>78570812
as an independentist I'd say my vote is bretty fine with regional parties
>>78569399
libertarian party
>>78570892
You already have cancer
Do you seriously believe that Vox will get at least 3% to get Santiago Abascal inside Congress? I think that there isn't any hope, that's why I'm voting blank
España 2000
Digits confirm: VOX
>>78572791
It looks more like Pablemos
"Help me Make Spain Great Again, anon-kun"
>>78569399
If you are in Madrid, vote VOX, otherwise, vote PP
>>78570988
I would vote him.
Spain can't into democracy.
>>78573370
I-I would it, but you're not gonna get a seat Santiago-chan
>>78573490
Deep down, I feel this too.
>>78569399
I think I won't vote this time. If I finally go I'll vote for PNV or some shit. I don't like any of the national parties
>>78573972
>>78573938
We need more anime memes with Vox, that's the only way that we can make it happen. And by God we will need to make it happen.
What the fuck ever happened to the Falangist party? Why don't you faggots try to bring it back?
>>78575296
Memeparty, just like the carlist party
>>78575296
Because they are retarded fucks who spend their days whining about the Catholic faith, about how Franco betrayed them and some of them even moved left and joined Podemos like the retard in pic related ("Podemos is the closest thing to our ideology").
>>78575296
Memeparty-left shit.
VOX would be the way, and nobody votes them because Spanish politics are pure marketing.
Spanish right-wing is old, and can't into socialmedia.
Meanwhile, Podemos is winning adepts because of that and Twitter memes. It's fucking awful.
>>78575296
Because it broke itself into 9000 parties.
>>78569399
Dunno, I'm going to vote PP because, thus far, with the Hont system, any other vote is wasted. Unfortunately I'm from the cuck lazy ass part of the country, and here Podemos will probably take our 4 seats anyway.
Seriusly fuck the Canary Islands man...
>>78576067
Almería is going to be 3-PP, 1-PSOE, 1-Podemos, 1-Cs. Could even be 4-PP, 1-PSOE, 1-Cs.
I love my province.
>>78569399
Ciudadanos all the way senpai, trust
>>78570605
>PP
>treatable
>>78575139
It's maybe too late for that, but if we could push and bring the meme warfare into forocoches, and even better twitter, maybe we could something.
The problem is that the alt-right doesn't exist here, we don't have memes, don't have humor, don't have anything right related, except retarded shit from Intereconomía and Álvaro Ojeda, who is pure shit.
We need to start something great and clever, to make Spain great again.
>>78573938
>I-I would it, but you're not gonna get a seat Santiago-chan
then contribute to it you idiot.
Thinking like that will surely not solve fuck all
Ok, /pol/, what about the Partido Libertario? The candidate likes anime and videogames and looks like your average 4chan NEET.
Spanish bros, all I want to say is your women are absolutley magical and fantastic
and I fucking want to fight in Blue Division in Leningrad, your unit was one of the bravest in that campaign
jesus I am so fkn happy of yesterday's referendum outcome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxysBhAggGE
>>78569399
It is time for you then to vote Podemos and fuck everything.
Wait u guys have a vote? For what?
>>78576855
They get less than 0.1% of the votes. Voting them is useless.
>>78577170
>Unironically wanting to destroy your own country
>>78576988
We love you too, Britbro! Pay no heed to all the fear-mongering, shills gonna shill and shit. Proud of you, you disgusting Pérfido.
>>78576855
Meme party, if Vox has it difficult, this people is really fighting against every odd existent in this world. But I like them.
>>78576988
Thank you mate, we'll vote NO to Scotland when the moment comes.
>>78577260
General Elections
>>78576855
Errejon claimed all his virgin memes.
It's not going to make it.
>>78573411
Only sensible post in this thread.
If you are seriously consider supporting the pro-islam, pro-feminism, pro-mass immigration communists end yourself. I know that the alternatives aren't good but come on.
>>78577170
>>78577313
He's got a point. As a friend of mine said recently "España solo aprende a hostias".
>>78577260
National elections. The Spanish parliament is so fragmented that we couldn't elect a new Prime Minister last December, so we're at it again. This time our Syriza (Podemos) might very well end in power.
>>78570941
>>78570944
>>78572791
>>78573411
>>78574196
>>78576067
>>78576520
>>78577313
Whatever you do, do NOT vote PP, Ciudadados, Vox or the independentists. That is what everyone says.
>>78576499
LOL Susana will love those results.
Greetings to Almeribros, I remember working with one guy from there, he was awesome and hardworking as fuck.
>>78577423
>>78577535
gentlemen, this is our fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn1dUx3zR18
>>78577860
>That is what everyone in Meneame says.
Fix'd
>>78577831
I remember you telling me you were going to vote for Podemos along with your friend.
>>78577767
Remember to vote PSOE or something like that.
>>78576853
Na Vox can't win because the system is literally rigged for those parties to lose. And I wish I was joking. It is the same shit with C's.
If he could manage to gather more support from other, bigger Right Wing parties (cough cough PP cough cough) then it would be different, but since the Right Wing here is cucked as fuck...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Hondt_method
I can't vote because after 15 years in here I don't earn 1500 fucking euros which I need to earn in order to become a citizen
they can't deport me though cuz I'm Cuban ^,^
>>78577860
>do NOT vote PP, Ciudadados, Vox or the independentists
>>78578183
>Remember to vote PSOE or something like that.
Why would he do that? Why vote the agonising cuck party?
>>78577883
We are the right-wing bastion in Andalucia.
La Junta hates us, and cuts our budgets, but we are resisting.
In fact, Almería voted "No" in Andalucia autonomy creation poll, but they didin't care and forced us to be part of Andalucia.
It's sad as fuck.
Thanks, and enjoy summer, my Islander bro.
>>78578376
>after 15 years in here
Zapatero gave plenty of citizenships back when he was President. Should've gotten yours m8
>>78578452
I guess he would do that so that PSOE and Podemos get enough seats when they unite.
>>78578725
My parents are autistic and didn't take advantage of me being a minor, when I hit 18 all those privileges went to shit
I think the constitution states that after 10 years of permanent residency you have a right to become a citizen, but I have no money or family in cuban to ask for birth certificate
>>78578511
Based Almeria, Andalucía is a fucking chimera and is going to die in any moment despite all that andalusian bigots.
>>78578975
Yes, too many PP people in Andalucía.
>>78578923
You must be at least in the population census. Maybe in the "padrón municipal". You can't live here this long without some papers certificating that you exist.
Ask in the Ayuntamiento maybe?
>>78569399
KEK COMMANDS YOU TO VOTE FOR PP
>>78569399
Vote Vox mate.
>Make Spain great again is their logo
>They want to take out the autonomies.
>They want to forbid abortion.
At least elect someone, anyone. You're a fucking mess goddamn.
>>78579407
silly I'm telling you I have permanent residency for 5 years, and then I can renew it, but I want to be citizen, I have no ties with cuba and I want to be spaniard.
coming here as a child and still trying to wear this "immigrant label" after so many years saddens me.
>>78579828
As everyone is saying, voting VOX is only a reliable option on Madrid.
Anywhere else is like throwing your vote to the can
Same with UPyDead
>>78578975
>>78579467
>>78579828
Remember to vote Podemos or something like that, nationalism need to win this.
>>78569399
You should vote for the party that best serves your people.
>>78577860
>everyone
Tovarisch, your commie is showing
>>78579915
I hope you get the money, Cubabro.
Can you go back to Cuba, take your papers and then come back to Spain?
>>78580197
Maybe but I need to save some money first, there's people who have contacts and there you can buy everything with money
>>78580403
Wow, I see.
Good luck, then.
>>78569399
PP or Ciudadanos are the only real choices. PSOE is pretty much dead and they'll try to pact with Podemos. And Podemos is a joke. Did you see the debate? They seemed to be way more worried about gaining power than about proposing things or having a believable program. All they said was they wanted to raise the minimum wage? Even thinking about that right now is so fucking stupid it's not even funny, but of course it's something the populace wants to hear, so that's why they highlighted it.
>>78580783
Do not vote for PP or Ciudadanos for fuck's sake.
>>78580949
I'd appreciate some reasoning.
>>78580088
>Remember to vote Podemos or something like that, nationalism need to win this.
>Podemos
>Nationalists
m8, the first thing they'd do would be spit on the flag or try to force the Republican one.
>>78581272
I guess he meant Catalonian nationalism?
>>78581175
Ciudadanos is the same as PP and PP kept blaming the four years it has been in power everything wrong they have done in Zapatero.
They managed to get people to actually believe it was Zapatero who crashed Spain in the past when it actually was a mix between the the global economic recession and the Spanish property bubble burst.
There are way better people than me ready to give you plenty more reasons as to why you should never vote PP or Ciudadanos.
>>78581726
>>78581272
We have to stop the lack of Spanish nationalism we suffer. And independentism of any kind, of course.
Voting PP, Ciudadanos or Vox will only worsen the independentist problem.
>>78581992
Still not a single reason to vote the dying PSOE instead of a right-wing party or even Ciudadanos
>>78581992
Zapatero did it VERY poorly, though.
I prefer to be dead before voting to socialistfags.
>>78569399
Vote Podemos as I will do.
I want war. I want to see the world burn, I want to see everything destroyed.
And there is hope for that. Everything will tear apart if very few years.
Let the caos come, the strong will survive. With no fear.
>>78582298
Then vote Podemos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-FgbithVPw
>>78582190
>voting for parties that slap CU(ck)P and other independentists assholes worsen the problem
>somehow voting for a party that will most likely give them everything they want will solve it
I fail to see the logic
>all the parties in Spain are shit cuck socialists
Why don't you fucks just start your own party? If there is anyone left in Spain that isn't a commie, surely they would support you, since there are no other options
but who am I kidding
>Spain
>>78582467
How much do you get paid for being CM?
I'm interested.
>>78581992
You mean politicians blame other politicians in order to gain or to maintain their power? I can't believe it! But seriously, while I don't approve of that, at the end of the day it's nothing relevant. What is relevant is the economy, which was finally starting to get better after all these years of austerity. We need to take advantage of that to change and to improve the economy model of the country, which is something Ciudadanos actually proposed, not by throwing it all out the window.
>>78582190
>let's stop independentism by voting the party that wants to support independentism instead of the ones that don't
You what?
>>78582467
I don't like communism and the whole "Chávez vive, la lucha sigue" isn't my thing either. I don't want my country to go down the tubes.
>>78582441
>I want to see the world burn
You'll just burn yourself and your country, the world will be just fine and they will laugh at us for being such a stupid bunch
>>78582638
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Hondt_method
Read this, this is what we use for our elections. You'll know why creating a new (right-wing) party is a bad idea soon enough.
Also, everything related to the right is labeled "fascist" and "nazi" here.
>>78582485
>somehow voting for a party that will most likely give them everything they want will solve it
First I thought it was a good idea to allow the bloody referendum as a way to decrease or stop the independentism. But that would be a precedent for further referendums and a way to bend over to the independentists demands.
>>78582638
>but who am I kidding
>>Spain
Aren't you very tired of that denigration? Bully France, they surely deserve it much more.
>>78569399
>>78582761
>I do not believe no one has ever been paid to post in this awful place. If wrong please do post evidence.
>>78583117
>You'll just burn yourself and your country
No. We will take the weapons and go outside. It is not a fantasy anymore, it WILL happen. Unless you are a pussy, then fuck you.
In december i voted to compromis. Is a regionalist party and i dont like their nationalism. But they have been doing a really good work in Valencia. Shame now i am empadronado in Barcelona...
I won't be able to vote to mybdear Oltra.
>>78583035
>wants to support independentism
Podemos is unionist.
>>78583633
At least it is Spanish nationalism and not what you see in Gerona.
I'm voting for PSOE, just to fuck all those communist Podemitas .
>>78583633
One of the ugliest women I've ever seen. Would never for such a ugly bitch.
>>78569399
I´m taking this vote for Venezuela pals
>>78582485
>I dont understand why independence movements exist.
A vote for PP is another ther step towards the breakup of your country.
>>78583421
>>78583646
Then, stop shilling so hard.
It's painful.
>>78583612
>This country
>Revolting
Last time was in 1936. Won't happen again.
I would gladly join the new nationalist side in a theoretical Second Civil War, but it won't happen.
>>78583633
>Compromís
Disgusting. As a citizen of the Valencian Community, I hate you for that.
>muh regionalism
Shit
>>78583646
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>78583831
It's not really Spanish nationalism, it's "valencianism"
>>78583856
Pdr Snchz is pretty handsome I know...
I dont see other reason.
I´m voting vox, not myself a centralist, and not neocon like them, but deus vult. (if they stop the mass inmi and gender ideology is good enough)
Pero con unas pinzas en la nariz.
>>78584401
>>78584358
Then you are going to vote for Podemos to -among other things- stop those wretched independentists?
>>78584810
I'm going to vote PP.
Stop shilling, you probably got your shekels already
Well I am voting UP, They wont get
absolute majority so they wont be able to do anything too crazy.
Its the only way I see to fight traditional parties corruption, a little bit at least. That should also calm nationalism a bit, voting PP o any of those idiots would only make it worse, and you know it.
I dont like many other things of Podemos tho...
Abro paraguas.
>>78584401
As a moderate-leftist, I believe in a sustainable socialdemocracy. I'm not saying Podemos is going to cause a bankrupt or something like that, I just prefer stability over experiments.
>>78569399
Partido Ibérico de los Rumanos (PIRUM)
>>78585008
Seriously. After everything that has happened and the lack of economic growth, you are voting PP?
>>78582441
But not all of us are Muslim so...
Redpill a burger on Spanish politics. I know you guys had trouble keeping an empire together; I had no idea you guys were having a hard time keeping your peninsula together.
>>78569399
Vote for whoever wants to get you a referendum on your membership of the EU.
>>78585013
Imho, nacionalism is calmed right now (if you live there, you can tell me how is going on over there).
.
I mean, they can't even form government. We shouldn't give them wings of any kind.
I don't want another failed referedum like Brexit.
And UP's economic proposals are a joke, and shit on PYMEs.
It's sad to say this, but I think that we lose less money with corruption.
>>78581272
Nah, they have a better flag for us, one that is more incloosive
>>78585891
How dare you not include extraterrestrials in that flag alienophobe!
>>78585697
Vote for Ciudadanos then, man; at least they're not thieves.
>>78585599
Nobody does. That is kind of the problem. Euroskepticks aren't allowed to talk freely and are treated as lunatics, I hope after you leave it will be different, but right now?
I actually won 450€ this morning on bets because I speak English and could know more or less how the Political weather was in the UK to a bunch or cucks who thought that Brexit "would totally never happen" but didn't care to inform themselves of how much support it had.
>>78585013
You vote UP because you think they won't get absolute majority.
But voting them HELPS them get closer to it.
You are kinda contradicting yourself.
>Its the only way I see to fight traditional parties corruption, a little bit at least. That should also calm nationalism a bit, voting PP o any of those idiots would only make it worse, and you know it.
You are fighting one problem with another one tbqh
>I dont like many other things of Podemos tho...
Then don't vote them?
>>78585251
>lack of economic growth
You are an actual shill, damn. How much do you get paid for this?
>>78585389
This sunday, general elections. Second one in a few months because we didn't get a President from the last one.
There are four options:
PP: center-right/right-wing party. They are corrupt as fuck but they know about economy. They are shit with marketing, so everyone hates them. I still don't know how they manage to be the most voted party. I'm going to vote them.
Ciudadanos: center libertarian party. Kinda one of the new guys. They are pretty good, so good not many people will vote them. Spain is different I guess. Pro-market, against independentism and overall serious people.
PSOE: Classic socialists. Their party is dying because of the new commie party. The PSOE is now a shadow of its former self.
Unidos Podemos: Filthy commies. Openly anti-Spanish, pro-rapefugees, cultural marxists, multiculturalist scum. They are on its way to become the second most voted party.
In conclusion: Revive Franco or nuke us already.
Vote Podemos for Chaos!!!
>>78586052
lol true that. I'm such a facha.
falange
make spain great again
>>78586054
>not thieves
>>78586054
One PP vote worth more than one C's vote, and I don't want to see Podemos+PSOE.
Moreover, PSOE is even more corrupted than PP (Andalucia is a fucking joke), and C's is proPSOE. I really don't mind that (PP+PSOE+C's would be fine), but... I can't trust it.
Who's the most meme candidate tío??
Vote for him
>>78586234
Good bet.
But really, there are no parties that would be wiling to carry that through? Is there even a little resentment to Brussels?
Does Podemos want the Spanish Third Republic?
>>78586704
He is commie.
>>78586822
Yes
>>78586307
>PP: center-right/right-wing party. They are corrupt as fuck but they know about economy. They are shit with marketing, so everyone hates them. I still don't know how they manage to be the most voted party. I'm going to vote them.
A Party that raises taxes more than the so called "Classic Socialists" ISN'T a right wing party. Period. They may be the only option in this shit fest, but let's not kid ourselves, they are socialist scum.
>Ciudadanos: center libertarian party. Kinda one of the new guys. They are pretty good, so good not many people will vote them. Spain is different I guess. Pro-market, against independentism and overall serious people.
Libertarian my ass, they have abandoned that ship a long ago and want to bring in even more refugees. I voted for them in my last election, and I am OK with them dealing with the PSOE, but Rivera's turn to the left is more than irksome.
>PSOE: Classic socialists. Their party is dying because of the new commie party. The PSOE is now a shadow of its former self.
They are dying because of their inability to actually choose the leaders that may attract centrists. And after Zetaparo many lefties and center left people are VERY dissapointed for very different reasons with the Socialists.
>Unidos Podemos: Filthy commies. Openly anti-Spanish, pro-rapefugees, cultural marxists, multiculturalist scum. They are on its way to become the second most voted party.
Thankfully, "second most voted party" won't mean much unless Pedrito does something stupid. I'm honestly hoping we go to elections again in December.
>>78586767
Podemos wanted it, but then, after Syriza's fail, they said that they don't want that and that they never say nothing like leaving the Euro.
They are fucking populist.
>>78586822
Actually they're keen to establish the Second Republic..., again.
>>78586307
You Mediterranean countries seem to have always been ascorrupt and backstabby as fuck as you are now. You'd probably be better off as a loose collection of city-states. Either that or an empire. Seems to be the only two ways you guys can achieve greatness.
Pic related its the eternal greek selling out western civilization, igniting a war with persia, and allowing Islam to expand.
PODEMOS
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DO IT HISPANIA, AND WE CAN BRING THE EU DOWN TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!1
>>78587056
>A Party that raises taxes more than the so called "Classic Socialists" ISN'T a right wing party. Period. They may be the only option in this shit fest, but let's not kid ourselves, they are socialist scum.
Totally agree. Better choice than UP, tho.
>>78586834
Who cares we will vote for our meme candidate in 2018
A mild commie
Post Spanish qts
>>78569399
Any right wing party. They need CPR until they are viable again.
>>78587335
No, thanks. You are not dragging us to your misery.
Ciudadanos
I know they are still cucks, but they are the less shit compared to the other 3
>>78587591
How are you doing in your fascist country?
>>78586822
Nah they want a rematch of the Spanish Civil War to see if the Commies can win this time.
>>78587513
>You will never marry Arrimadas
Why even live
>>78587323
eehhmm you know that Persia declare war Byzantium all the time and not the other way around?
Heraclius btfo bloothirsty Persians from trying to conquer Armenia and Syria while he also recover the true cross AND stopped Muslim expansion
9/10 emperor
>>78587659
Poland is actually doing fantastically right now. They got eurogibs coupled with a conservative government so they didn't waste it all on importing shiskins. Poland most redpilled country in the EU
>>78587372
How are you living with Trump shit all over the frontier?
You don't give a shit (will climb the wall anyway if needed), or does it freight you?
De buen rollo, antiguo bro.
>>78587335
We kinda enjoy having healthcare and pensions over 20€...
>>78587659
Way better than we are, that's for sure
>>78587056
>raising taxes
How else did you expect them to make money? If you need money because there is a huge debt, you make spending cuts and raise taxes.
>Rivera's turn to the left
Still probably more libertarian than any other party here. His deal with PSOE won't take them anywhere though
>PSOE
Whatever the reason, they are dying and their voters are going to UP. They better do something about it
>UP
If we go to elections again in December (which I think is likely to happen) they either become stronger than PP or they lose voters to PSOE and go back to 3rd most voted
>>78587323
Make Spain great again
>>78587335
No.
>>78587591
If only one called VOX made it to the Parliament it would be big news. We are commie as fuck now. Long gone are the days of Franco
>>78587864
qtiest politician in Spain tbqh
>>78587926
I'm pretty sure the Mexicans that post on /pol/ aren't the aztec looking goblins that illegally cross the border to America.
>>78587323
America talking about corrupt and backstabby
top kek.
>>78587881
I'm speaking of Mauritius who installed the Persian emperor and when he got backstabbed by Phocas for not negotiating with traitorous foederati (who made demands greater than the yearly GNP of the empire) Persia attacked out of revenge for Maurice, who was actually good personal friends with the Persian emperor (who kept him at court for years). The two empires warred and as soon as they were done the sand people attacked.
>>78587372
But we don't like living in failed states...no Narcos here bringing order if everything goes to shit.
>>78588154
I don't know shit about Mexico.
Didn't want to offend.
>>78578155
LOS NAZIS MORENITOS
>>78588214
We don't even come close toRoman levels, and no state in existence besides modern Italy and Greece approach Byzantine levels
>>78571691
This
>>78586307
>I do not believe no one has ever been paid to post in this awful place. If wrong please do post evidence.
>>78588379
Shhh, it's over, little buddy.
>>78588326
One of the things that jumps out at you down in Mexico after taking the red pill is how race affects everything there. Just by looking at people you can determine their economic class. The lower classes are dark, mestizo and short. When you go to a poorer part of town everybody is an Indian. In the better parts of town the people are taller and lighter. When you go to nice restaurants the people eating there all look like they are right out of Europe, while the serving staff is very dark.
If there ever were a country where “White Privilege” is real, it’s Mexico.
>>78585031
So you are going to vote PSOE, then?
>>78588550
They even give you a set sentence to say when you've been caught!
Damn they are good
>>78588593
VIVA HITLER
EL QUE NOS LLEVARÍA A GASEAR
ARRIBA LOS NAZIS
>>78585389
Spain has always been stuck in two party-system between PP (right) and PSOE (left), but people were so sick of them a lot of people has stopped voting them and new parties have emerged: Podemos and Ciudadanos.
4 main parties:
- PP: christian democracy, conservatives, "liberal" (not that liberal desu). It has some serious problems with severe corruption, it is leading the surveys, but they wont get majority and no one wants to pact with them. More than half of the country hates them to death.
-Podemos: Radical Left, socialist (but real socialist), progressives. This is a new party founded two years ago, despite being so young it has grown very fast and now its the second party in the surveys. Podemos is the only party that agrees with calling a referendum on Catalonia independence, that, along with its radicality on certain topics, gives them problems with all the other parties, which hate them.
-PSOE: social-democracy, progressive I guess. They also have a lot of corruption, and they are dying because of Podemos. Unfortunately, I think this idiots will be the key to form a government, they can either support their natural enemies PP or join their own killer Podemos.
-Cs: Liberal, they are also relatively new, strongly against independentism, they are kind of behind the other parties but they still have a significant ammount of votes.
Those are the four bigs, there are also ecologist, far-right, indenpentists, regionalist, etc... but those are mostly irrelevant compared with the other 4.
Sorry for bad english probably :D
>>78588690
The irony is that Indians became the elite of the elite ruling classes in the Philippines after the Tlaxcalans became conquistadorboos
>>78587611
Checked
Vote Cs, kek wills it
>>78588788
>EL QUE NOS LLEVARÍA A GASEAR
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilio_Esteban-Infantes_y_Mart%C3%ADn
>>78588690
Wow.
Didn't expect that.
Because of racism, or inhearance? I mean, it must be hard to climb there, but maybe, if you are jew and clever, you can go high. Or they don't give good jobs to indians?
>>78569399
vote erc or dc xd
>>78588117
>How else did you expect them to make money? If you need money because there is a huge debt, you make spending cuts and raise taxes.
By lowering taxes, promoting entrepeneurship, lowering the 300€ Autónomos have to pay and letting make money and create jobs so they consume more products.
There was some guy with a funny moustache who said that a couple of years...Oh yeah it was Aznar.
>Still probably more libertarian than any other party here. His deal with PSOE won't take them anywhere though
"Still more libertarian" =/= Libertarian. The Communist Party wants Spain to break away from International Institutions and become self sufficient, which is another big libertarian concept when compared with the four mainstream parties, but sure as hell that doesn't make them even remotely close to Libertarian.
>Whatever the reason, they are dying and their voters are going to UP. They better do something about it
And C's, center left people are either not voting or voting C's. I know because I know a lot of PSOE voters.
>UP
To be honest, I don't really think they can go further up than they are going. If they manage to get past 90 Seats, we deserve all the shit we will be getting.
>>78588847
>christian democracy, conservatives, "liberal" (not that liberal desu)
Hahaha bullshit. PP has surrendered every single cultural fight to the left, just like cuckservatives in America.
Anyone who says PP is good at economy should be shot in the back of the head, for the better.
>>78586307
Fuck you and your lack of nationalism you traitor.
>>78588536
Dunno George washington killing the french ambassador that started the french and indian war, and then joining up with the french for independence when England tried to put some taxes to pay for the war.
was pretty fucking backstabby.
US also reneged on just about every treaty ever made with the indians.
Then there was that time we agreed to mediate the conflict in Cuba only to kick the spanish out and steal their colony lol.
>>78589195
I think I'm going to vote them for the lulz
>>78589424
They still defend bullfights and monarchy, thats pretty conservative in my opinion bro.
Savage corruption is also a tradition in Spain.
>>78589023
The was also a Jewish police force in Germany, it meant nothing for the vast majority of Jews.
I know you want to believe your aryan friends wouldn't have killed you, but they would have. You see, you are nothing but a subhuman to them.
Stop being a cuck.
>>78588117
>If we go to elections again in December (which I think is likely to happen)
Why do you think that to be likely to happen? Please do explain.
>>78589464
Ditto.
>>78589679
>They still defend bullfights
Probably the only Spanish tradition that isn't worth defending (and we have a shitton of them), if only because it's incredibly difficult to sell animal abuse to people and keep their support. I even know a few people who are self-hating simply because of the Spanish bullfighter stereotype.
>and monarchy
A monarchy that is also a total joke if you are conservative in any way.
>In June 2014, Felipe and Letizia became the first Spanish monarchs to receive and recognize LGBT organisations at the Palace. Felipe also changed the protocol in order to allow people to take the oath of office without a crucifix or Bible.
>>78590248
European monarchy is truly fucked up
>>78569399
PSOE
Podemos sound like shit party "Cambiemos" from my country
>>78589914
Los españoles como tropa son unos andrajosos, miran el fusil como un instrumento que no debe limpiarse bajo ningún pretexto. Sus centinelas sólo existen en principio. No ocupan sus puestos o, si es así, lo hacen dormidos. Cuando llegan los rusos, los nativos tienen que despertarles. Pero los españoles nunca han cedido un centímentro de terreno.Nunca he visto seres mas impavidos, no se puede imaginar individuos más valientes. Difícilmente se resguardan. Se burlan de la muerte. En cualquier caso, sé que nuestros hombres siempre se alegran de tener a los españoles de vecinos en su sector.
Son extraordinariamente valientes, duros para las privaciones, pero ferozmente indisciplinados.
-Adolph Hitler
Cuando cayó francia uno de los generales de hitler le propuso invadir españa y esta fue la respuesta de hitler:
Si hay un pueblo valiente en el mediterraneo ese es el español, no se puede entrar en españa si no es con el permiso de los españoles.
-Adolph Hitler
I have traveled around europe, and I have been with many comrades from all around. You have no power here, shill.
>>78589259
If you lower taxes and such, how exactly do you plan on mantaining healthcare, education and all that stuff?
People won't start buying massively after one day of tax cut, you know?
Can't blame Ciudadanos for changing a little though. They might not be 100% libertarian anymore, but they are the main option for true libertarians.
PSOE loses votes left and right. I don't know if there's a solution to it.
>UP
>If they manage to get past 90 Seats, we deserve all the shit we will be getting.
I agree completely
>>78589464
Same could be said for UP voters. Or any left-wing voter in Spain really
>>78589561
>lack of nationalism
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Made me kek, thanks for that
>>78589606
>I think I'm going to vote them for the lulz
This is why this country is sinking, no one gives a fuck anymore...
>>78590073
PSOE won't pact with UP or PP, therefore, new elections.
>>78590514
It's a shit party
>>78590248
Yeah, but they still defend that crap. PP is fucking garbage.
And they are not good at economy, can we stop that meme, please?
>>78569399
vote leave, while the air is still charged with memetic energy
>>78589914
"Había leído en la historia que el soldado español era el mejor del mundo, y ahora, viéndolos en el frente ruso, lo he comprobado.
La División Española lucha en primera línea sin interrupción, en uno de los sectores más difíciles y de decisiva importancia para los combates defensivos.
De este modo la División Azul ha hecho el más alto honor a su Patria en la gran lucha anticomunista.
Cuando la División Azul regrese a España tendremos que expresar tanto a ella como a su bravo General el reconocimiento debido a una lealtad y una valentía llevadas hasta la muerte."
(Adolf Hitler)
>>78590721
>PSOE won't pact with UP or PP
Is it not a given that they are obviously going to pact with UP?
Can one of you spainbros explain the choices?
>>78569399
Vota a "muerte al sistema"
Su nombre me inspira confianza.
A highly qualified unbiased monarchy is better than a retarded and biased president of the Republic.
Sure, we don't get to vote for the king which is somehow antidemocratic, but democracy isn't as almighty as people think. Voters are gullible and I sure don't want my country be representes solely by the likes of Zapatero, Rajoy, or even Pablemos.
Also, it's cheaper than a Republic since you don't need to spend 120 million € every election
>>78590699
All of those statements are not confirmed by a single source, just go to google, my friend, you know it's bullshit.
>I have traveled around europe, and I have been with many comrades from all around. You have no power here, shill.
"Shill", hilarious. I'm not a cuck like you, I want Castilla back to its glory, not a """white""" and """european""" Spain, let alone a pro-german one.
Go suck some German dick.
>>78587926
Vivo en una ciudad fronteriza así que me está jodiendo el precio del dólar pero aún así vivo muy bien acá nomas hace demasiado calor
>>78588154
Brown people can't speak English faam
>>78591183
No choices. All of them are eu shills.
I wish it was like your country at least.
>>78591033
No, he would only pact with them if they stop defending Catalonia's referendum and make him President, which won't happen
http://www.mundiario.com/articulo/politica/pedro-sanchez-revela-quien-pactara-gana-elecciones-podemos-y-ciudadanos/20160620114705061913.html
http://www.elconfidencial.com/elecciones-generales/2016-06-21/encuentro-pedro-sanchez-jovenes-psoe-campana-electoral-26j_1220512/
>>78591276
> not a """white""" and """european""" Spain
So you are a shitskin, after all. I can't say I am surprised. Fuck off back to Morocco.
> pro-german one
>Implying true spaniards are not at least 50% germanic
>>78588226
Esta mierda de los narcos empezó gracias a un partido de derecha
Jamás hemos tenido un partido comunista o algo así que hay que probar diferente mierda haber que sabe
Litlle reminder that our actual president is actually retarded, no joke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7_qTwWA1IM
>>78590721
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It is JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA you 38 year old.
>>78587056
>Libertarian my ass, they have abandoned that ship a long ago and want to bring in even more refugees. I voted for them in my last election, and I am OK with them dealing with the PSOE, but Rivera's turn to the left is more than irksome.
They are playing politics. In Spain you can't say straight anything about not accepting refugees because the media will completely crucify you (mediaset, a3media are all prorefugee). What convinced me about this is , Rivera almost dodging the topic of refugees in A4 debate and instead talked about being relevant in EU
>>78591525
How could they possibly make him president if they have more seats and votes than him? It would not be fair and it is understandeable.
As for the bloody catalan stuff... it can be talked out.
>>78591623
>Jamás hemos tenido un partido comunista o algo así que hay que probar diferente mierda haber que sabe
No te lo recomiendo. Cualquier mierda es infinitamente mejor que el comunismo. Simplemente fíjate en Cuba o Venezuela, con la reserva de petroleo que tiene y la situación en la que está gracias al chavismo
>>78591790
This is an English imageboard, you idiot.
>38 year old
I'm not 38. And I fail to see how could being 38 be a bad thing
>>78590721
>If you lower taxes and such, how exactly do you plan on mantaining healthcare, education and all that stuff?
People won't start buying massively after one day of tax cut, you know?
Let that rot and end in hands of Private companies. That would mean more people creating jobs. Government is doing really bad at keeping Education, Public Healthcare and others anyway. Make it all Private.
>Can't blame Ciudadanos for changing a little though. They might not be 100% libertarian anymore, but they are the main option for true libertarians.
The main option for true Libertarians is emigrate. And out of Europe.
>PSOE loses votes left and right. I don't know if there's a solution to it.
I won't say I have a solution to their woes, nor I care to solve their problems, but I know Sanchez certainly ISN'T a solution. Susana may be slightly better, but I've heard many socialists saying that she is too "right winger" to have their votes, so there is that.
>>78591606
>So you are a shitskin, after all. I can't say I am surprised. Fuck off back to Morocco.
No, I'm son of Madrilean and half-basque-half-catalan, there's nothing more Spanish than me.
I know it breaks your heart, but just go check the US census to realize that only you consider yourself white.
Long live Castilla, fuck the Germancucks, death to iberian colonies.
>vote anything but the true alternative
people will defend this
>>78591606
You know Germany hate us right
>>78592181
>idiot
That is like the pot calling the kettle black.
>>78569399
I'm voting PODEMOS because I want to see the World burn.
>>78592196
Dear lord, are you crazy? Sanchez is an idiot but Susana is two-faced, corrupt bitch, and everyone hates her outside of Andalucia. Only reason she wins there is because of clientelism, everyone with half a brain in Andalucia cant wait to throw them off the government.
Voting Ciudadanos.
They are not perfect but they are the best option for the economy:
>Less tax burden
>Less bureaucracy
>More financial security, easier to invest
>Easier to employ people
>No healthcare for illegals
>Better border control
>Only party to talk against feminazi laws like the VIOGEN laws.
>Serious against independentism
>More individual freedoms like legalization of marihuana, prostitution, etc.
>>78592317
Germany does not hate us at all, they hate France.
>>78592438
I've family in Greece and if you are living in Spain, you really don't want Podemos doing the same thing
>>78569399
Vote for whoever is ok with the catalan independence
Because reasons
>>78591623
¿Qué puedo decir? Que aproveche y ojalá solucione los problemas que tienen allá.
Podemos no va a solucionar nada aquí sino traer moros y destruir el país.
>>78592547
Inside Andalucia too.
She is only loved in Seville, and Andalucia is Seville.
>>78592583
Nice propaganda m8
>>78586317
This is the only actual /pol/ choice.
Everyone else please just get the fuck back to forocoches.
>>78592275
>only you consider yourself White
As I said, your divide and conquer tactics won't work with me. I am involved on the european far right and I know very well what others consider me.
>You know Germany hate us right
German far right does not hate spanish far right at all. If you think so, you spend too much time on /pol/. Maybe get actually involved in politics?
All these shills.
Men, I banned myself from a Spanish Forum because of CMs and shilling, and somehow hoped that /pol/ were different.
At least, right-wing voters are not hated at all.
>>78569399
>''''''''''''''people''''''''''''''''' here advocating for pp, cs and psoe
what a bunch of zoo monkeys you are, even worse than podemosfaggots. Fucking disgusting
>>78592926
I don't have invitación
>>78592781
Whatever, everything said is still true.
>>78592583
>Custodia compartida
No se habia bajado las bragas ante las feminazis?
>>78591884
The thing is, it depends on your audience. With his move he may attract some Socialist voters who are more centre than left (although many won't because C's has been called already by media as "right wing" and them retards won't vote just because of the label) but he scared the Right Wingers who may have voted him.
People kinda forget that many are pissed with the PP for not doing stuff like removing ZP's Abortion Laws and other things like that they promised they would, and many of these people flocked to C's, and now they are hearing things that may be way too progressive for them to put their trust into.
At the end of the day, any non leftard party should never try to garner the support of Mediaser, a3media etc, mostly because they are lefty scum that will NEVER betray their narratives. So it is pointless to try to take them to your side.
That is the way I see it anyway.
>>78592090
>How could they possibly make him president if they have more seats and votes than him?
He wants power, that's it. It's the only thing he cares about.
>>78592196
We didn' have money! Tax cuts would mean firing a lot of people from hospitals, schools and Administrations. That means high unemployement which means less people will have the money to buy. We wouldn't be able to afford welfare since we wouldn't make money from taxes.
See what I'm trying to say? If we had SOME money or own own National Bank like the US I'd agree with you,but that's not the case
>The main option for true Libertarians is emigrate. And out of Europe.
Maybe
>Susana
She is as important as him or more in the PSOE so, maybe
>>78592438
The world won't burn, Spain will. And so will you, your family and friends. Don't vote them.
>>78592583
Another shill, really?
>>78592655
No
>>78592926
Bullshit, /pol/'s choice would be VOX, Falange or Democracia Nacional
>>78593034
>right-wing voters are not hated at all.
Spain is the exception, we have commies in here
>>78593045
Who you voting for then? PACMA?
>>78592547
As I said, she "may" be a solution. But I am not a socialist so what do I know/care?
>>78589571
Oh yeah the state is shitty to people but I mean intra-governmental backstabbing isn't to byzzy levels
>>78593031
>As I said, your divide and conquer tactics won't work with me. I am involved on the European far right and I know very well what others consider me.
http://www.latercera.com/noticia/mundo/bbc-mundo/2015/07/1433-639092-9-bbc-por-que-deje-de-ser-blanco-al-llegar-a-california.shtml
I repeat it: you are not considered white by any white country.
It's not "divide and conquer", I'm just not stupid and ignorant to my history.
VOX will make Spain great again.
RECONQUISTA
>>78569399
You only have shit parties, just like us.
>>78593783
>tfw no iberian party
>Why even live
>>78593783
How are you doing, Brotugal?
Yo voted left-wings too, don't you?
Was it chaotic, or they weren't as radical as Podemos?
>>78592438
Are you really?
>>78593379
>but he scared the Right Wingers who may have voted him.
Right Wingers already changed their vote to PP because they are scared of Podemos. Trying to gather votes from them would be a waste of time because of the whole "voto útil"
>At the end of the day, any non leftard party should never try to garner the support of Mediaser, a3media etc, mostly because they are lefty scum that will NEVER betray their narratives. So it is pointless to try to take them to your side.
They did it with the viogen law and got butt-raped by the media. After the debate they started to lose voters according to the polls. You can't go against them when the only relevant media is leftist
>>78592583
Do not vote for Ciudadanos, they are desiring to unite with PP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljsYffpaiw
>>78594111
That's not a bad thing, tho
>>78593408
>We didn' have money! Tax cuts would mean firing a lot of people from hospitals, schools and Administrations. That means high unemployement which means less people will have the money to buy. We wouldn't be able to afford welfare since we wouldn't make money from taxes.
See what I'm trying to say? If we had SOME money or own own National Bank like the US I'd agree with you,but that's not the case
If they can't get their shit together and create private companies like the Americans have, then they don't deserve to have it. My tax money shouldn't go to provide for these services if I am not using them.
And Tax money won't matter, in our current Schooling system any muslim kid has more chances to end up in a good school paid by our taxes than any Spanish child, And don't get me started with healthcare, I had a year of unemployment and I got literally kicked out of our wonderful public healthcare system, forcing me to get into ADESLAS, while any shiskin and their mother can enjoy that indifinetly, so long as they don't rape many women or put too many bombs in trains.
Fuck. That. Public services are useless and should be in private hands.
>>78594169
Anything relating with PP is a bad thing.
>>78594111
If they get enough seats, they are the only ones who can make Rajoy resign.
>>78592583
If you're not from Madrid I guess this is the best choice but if you're from Madrid you should vote VOX
>>78593408
>we have commies in here
There are commies everywere in Europe.
Man this thread is pointless. If you are posting on /pol/ chances are that what you actually want is to get out of the EU and all the options are pro-EU. There is no right answer.
Really the only thing you are choosing here is whether you want the globalists to fuck you hard or fuck you tenderly.
>>78594422
Is that what they teach in the comunas?
>>78594422
PSOE-UP is worse. They will accept every single rapefugee, mantained by tax payers money
>>78594111
Good then. A Ciudadanos + PP option is the best option for the safety and the economy of this country if a Ciudadanos alone government is not an option.
>>78594359
>kicked out of our wonderful public healthcare system
Why were you kicked out?
>>78569399
no votes por los socialistas....... podemos o como se llamen esos idiotas.
>>78594032
Sure, but then again, maybe ignore the media and grow some balls may garner you points. Just saying.
I personally only listen to Federico Jiménez and read Breitbart, and I know many right wingers what would just use mediaset to watch Gran Hermano and Salvame...so again, maybe trying to garner the sympathies of people who are set to hate you anyway isn't such a good idea to begin with.
