What does /pol/ think of the idea of weighted voting?
So the old folk have shafted Britain yet they won't be around long enough to see the consequences. This not very fair.
At the other end of the spectrum young people under the age of 21 are too ignorant and inexperienced to be worthy of a full vote.
Weighted voting:
Age 18-21 one vote = 0.75 votes
Age 60-70 one vote = 0.75 votes
Age 70+ one vote = 0.5 votes
>>78564776
>Democracy is shit when I don't get my way
Tough shit nigger. Should've stayed a fucking monarchy then.
>>78565024
I wanted BREXIT. But that's not the point.
>>78564776
An IQ test would be better.
Some animals are more equal than others
Gerrymandering is shit and you should fuck off.
>>78566634
>more equal
>t. American on vacation
How many votes would my gf get?
>>78566755
>not getting the reference
>t. an actual american
>>78566755
you do know that's an Animal Farm quote, right?
>>78566755
>>78564776
can you even call that democracy?
>>78565024
We are a monarchy. We just objected to being ruled over by unelected Germans.
>>78566365
To add on to this, proving that you have general knowledge of the issues at hand would be nice. It would eliminate the niggers from voting in America so that wold be a net plus.
Remove voting. Let specialists run the government.
You don't vote about what to do when you have cancer, you go see a doctor. The common man is a fool.
>>78566755
>american education
read some classics f a m
you dont even have to read them nowadays, just get some audiobook thingy and listen to them on the subway
>>78564776
You would be content voting yourself some more of their money, no?
>>78567430
From the same country as you, Ah Beng al-Malaya.
>>78566365
Then you essentially surrender to the libertarians. High IQ but low on common sense
>>78567353
This would be ideal in a utopia
>>78567012
It's been at least ten years since I read that.
>>78564776
>old folk have shafted Britain
Proofs?
>>78564776
Lets turn it around. Since the old folks have paid the most taxes and therefore have contributed more.
Age 18-21 one vote = 0.25 votes
Age 60-70 one vote = 1.1 votes
Age 70+ one vote = 1.1 votes
Have fun.
>>78567672
its an iconic saying that is invoked pretty often, both on here and in the real world
>>78567353
Thats the system we have now. There is a group of specialist, who (should) have opinion how to rule the country. People elect them.
>>78564776
I think we should weight voting by party. People not voting for the right party get 0 votes.
#savetheeu
#stopracism
#its2016
>>78567711
They joined the EU.
>>78564776
The young shafted themselves by sitting at home and not voting for their interest. This is what they deserve.
>>78564776
Old people wanted to change something instead of voting for the status quo. That's a good thing.
>>78564776
https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/democracy-nothing-more-mob-rule
Who makes these fucking images. Complete utter brainless manipulative fucktards, any ideas posted with blatant lies like this added to them should be discarded.
>>78564776
should be based of education(not just stem, but no bachelor's in basketweaving bullshit), civil accomplishment, and maybe wealth
>try to use the age = wisdom argument
>then turn around and try to claim that old people are short sighted
So basically, you only want the demographic that agrees with you to be allowed to vote, and are happy to engage in doublethink in order to accomplish that.
>>78564776
No voting
>>78564776
>What does /pol/ think of the idea of weighted voting?
Only if it means the fatter you are the more your vote is worth.
I don't think you guys realaize that there never will be a lasting perfect government or utopia. Humans are animals with faults and nothing aside from literally making us no longer humans will fix it.
Maybe a government run by a AI, but even if a perfect state was created, the creators and followers will eventually die and corruption takes over.
>>78567711
>>78567662
And what's the problem with libertarianism?
>>78564776
no STEM or trade = 0.00 votes
None of these people were saying anything when UKIP got shafted at the General Election.
>>78567751
So rich people who have contributed the most
Millionaires one vote = 1.5 votes
Billionaires one vote = 2 votes
or is that like what we already have ; )
>>78564776
Irish are too ignorant to vote so how about they get none.
>>78564776
I preferred fighting to the death, strength means more to me than knowledge. It's human nature to take what you want and slaughter anything you don't.
>>78565872
>I wanted BREXIT
>>78564776
>So the old folk have shafted Britain
Kill yourself you faggot shill.
>>78566634
>more equal
Learn English stupid.
>>78568950
Why stop there? The Jews are the most intelligent members of society, and are a core part of academia.
Blacks - 3/5 vote
Whites - 1 vote
Jews - 2 votes
>>78569084
>shafted
I hope you have cancer
>>78569112
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Some+animals+are+more+equal+than+others&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=XIFtV9m_MLDLjgTjvLLYCA
>>78569084
I want BREXIT for united Ireland you stupid fucking leaf
>>78569276
Shafted is what he said, genius. First day on /pol/?
>>78569112
A fucking leaf
>>78569519
They won't leave the UK because the EU doesn't want them without the UK
>>78564776
They did the opposite to us OP with the Lisbon Treaty 2.0 by tricking the old people to giving the "right answer
>>78564776
Fuuuuuuuuck. No. One man one vote, fuck this weighted shit.
>>78564776
fake quote
>>78564776
Your just mad because your opinion wasen't the popular one. Democracy m8
>>78564776
I think only White males who are not cucks should be allowed to vote. Solves all the problems.
>>78564776
Come now goy, restrict your own voting rights.
>2050 only billionaires are allowed to vote
>>78569630
But we are in the EU. NI voted remain. Join us and they remain in the EU
>>78568701
Old people are more reasonable and wiser than those naive female welcome clappers
>>78568701
>some millenials don't vote because they dont know what the eu is or don't care
>old people make their vote count because they know what the eu is and want to make a difference
Why can't the elites just stop being corrupt instead?
>>78567198
*Belgians
>>78564776
Jefferson never said that.
>>78564776
that image is really bad because it shows like a hundred people going after 1 person, so that is 1% vs 99% not 51-49
also if 51% of people want to enslave 49% by taking away their rights its going to be difficult to do since the fight is so balanced
the real reason America is a republic is because of the time it was created, the country was too large and there was no way to communicate or travel quickly
>>78564776
Fuck off.
>>78570317
>This
/Thread
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>>78567662
>I define what qualifies as common sense
I personally believe people from an ethnic minority, who are most likely to be oppressed and spapegoated by the White majority, should be allowed greater representation than the average White voter. Whether it's mixing things up so their votes count as two votes instead of one, or automatically registering the non-voters in their community with the party most people from their ethnic background voted for (many might be scared to go to the polling station due to racist taunting etc). Something needs to change. We simply can't allow the largely middle-class male demographic ruin things any more. Our time is clearly up. We have to step aside.
>>78564776
This seems like a terrible idea. You're giving more franchise to the people who are least immediately impacted by decisions, and everyone knows almost none of the people complaining about the young getting shafted by BREXIT actually care about long-term consequences.
>>78570569
>those naive female welcome clappers
But there are mostly young students which is why I only gave them 0.75 votes too. Maybe we should increase the age so 18-24 only get .75 votes
>>78564776
How about:
18-25 one vote = 0.0 votes
50-65 one vote = 1.5 votes
65+ one vote = 2.0 votes
>>78568702
People like him won't be able to leech off true producers anymore
>>78571315
good contribution mate. you can have 0.85 votes
these faggots tried that in occupy wallstreet
remember stacked progression or whatever those loony fucks came up with
where minority protesters got to speak longer and more often cause white people or some shit
>>78571750
What about 25-50's? You retarded bro?
>>78571607
Isn't it why we set up systems so that the mob can't abuse the system against minorities?
I'm pretty sure the fear of the tyranny of the majority has been fixed. It's a flaw of democracy but it's not one without any solutions.
>>78571945
They get one vote like normal.
>>78571945
they should get 10 votes in total.
>>78570723
-----------> The joke
Your head <------------
>>78572171
>Intradasting.jpg
>>78568701
>>78567711
The way that I see this is old people lived through the EU experiment at its birth and saw what it lead to and wanted out, while the young voters are stupid and just accepted the naive early view of the EU helping trade deals.
I don't know why we even allow people to get old
>>78572168
it really hasn't been fixed
new problems pop up, and they linger
It was women and blacks, and just recently it was gays. The US just recently ruled in that marriage discrimination is illegal. Do you think that was the moment where we "fixed" the problem for all time?
>>78564776
Anyone who receives government funds (government workers, pensioners, welfarites), or whose employer receives government contracts loses their right to vote.
Why? Because it's a conflict of interest
Voting is not a right. Voting is a privilege, it's something a person needs to be qualified for.
We already restrict felons, kids, and mentally deficient people from voting. We need to expand that principle and only allow those who have achieved a high standard to vote.
What should those standards be? That should be debated
>>78572289
I agree that age group is the best age for well thought out votes.
>Rule Britannia
>>78571750
All votes are equal or there are no votes.
Too old and too young people shouldn't be able to vote. I'd make the cut off at 25 and 70
Better idea:
agrees with hitler: 1 vote
disagrees with hitler: 0 votes
It's nazi germany with the self indulgence of our current democracy
>>78572394
>what it lead to
what did it lead to? These people have had the comfiest lives ever, retired, no mortgage, live in houses worth 10 times what they paid, and are sitting on fat pensions.
>>78572444
Checked and keked
>Old people are a drain on society
>>78572961
So under your plan, Donald Trump would lose the right to vote
You're fucking mad
>>78572706
I don't see how marriage discrimination being illegal is bad.
>It was women and blacks, and just recently it was gays.
The thing with democracy is that it was only reserved for those with land and money. This is why women could vote so long as they had either. The feminist suffragette was bullshit, and was more people trying to obtain actual democracy over feminism shit.
The US is also not a democracy.
The American system is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. A democracy, if you attach meaning to terms, is a system of unlimited majority rule; the classic example is ancient Athens. And the symbol of it is the fate of Socrates, who was put to death legally, because the majority didn’t like what he was saying, although he had initiated no force and had violated no one’s rights.
Democracy, in short, is a form of collectivism, which denies individual rights: the majority can do whatever it wants with no restrictions. In principle, the democratic government is all-powerful. Democracy is a totalitarian manifestation; it is not a form of freedom . . . .
The American system is a constitutionally limited republic, restricted to the protection of individual rights. In such a system, majority rule is applicable only to lesser details, such as the selection of certain personnel. But the majority has no say over the basic principles governing the government. It has no power to ask for or gain the infringement of individual rights.
>>78569188
why stop even there? The canadians are the most skilled members of the human species, so
Canadian - 5 votes
>>78572995
Bad trade deal, lack of authority over its own land, the fear of not losing its culture.
The EU, after 40+ years, didn't become as great as it could have been. It's just that simple.
Although I like to think this is the real reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE
>we joined the EU to destroy it
>>78564776
I agree - in parts.
Should be directly proportional to age and taxes paid.
Thus, people with more life experience, and which contribute more financially to the state administration, should have greater decision-making participation.
>>78564776
Garbage idea.
Here's what SHOULD be done:
People register for the group they want to vote for.
There is an interview stage of kind, decided by that group (it can be anything from automatic acceptance to computerized tests to personal interviews). This decides whether your registration for the group is accepted or not. A set minimum number of voters must be accepted at this stage.
Accepted voters are then cross-examined by all other parties, which must select a certain number of voters to accept within an interval.
The intersection of all accepted voters is the set of people who are allowed to vote for this election.
The result is that people whose mind cannot be changed will not be allowed to vote on either side. Parties CANNOT choose only blind sheeps, or no other party will accept them as voters.
There are still flaws in this system, but it's significantly better than what's available now and your proposal.
>>78573136
It doesn't really matter in burger land anyway. All someone has to do to win anything in America is get a few buzz words together and say shit louder than the opponent. Mix that with the loudest candidate having a look of self entitlement on their face when shouting and that's it, the majority will just CLAP like fucking seals and...
>WHOOOOOP! MURIKA YEAH!
>>78564776
Votes should be proportional to the amount of taxes you pay.
>>78568846
Shit idea. See: terrence tao. I can tell you from first-hand experience that he isn't an isolated case at all.
>>78564776
We kind of have the same thing here, where a vote from northern Norway weighs more than a vote from the south.
>>78573874
Got yourself an ego now eh?
>>78573136
Trump is 70? What the hell I hate him now.
>>78564776
only way i'm having my vote weighted is if my taxes are too
no taxation without representation
if i have a diminished ability to acquire representation, then the goverment should have a diminished ability to tax me.
>>78564776
Weighted voting is just another cucked version of democracy. We should have one king. Democratic debates does nothing other than waste everyone's time. A strong king, who knows what he is doing (aka not Kim Jon Un),, that is deeply patriotic and cares for its people is the best humans could hope for, that, or no goverment at all
>>78564776
>wah the simply majority of people don't agree with me
>let's make their votes count for less
>>78564776
weighted voting is viable only if you could enforce it. or do you think democracy comes from a pacific movement?
>>78574159
Yeah his birthday was a week or so ago
He's extremely healthy for his age, I don't know what his secret is but it's amazing.
He only sleeps 4 hours a night and works like a hyper-energetic mad dog.
When asked how he did it, he just said he had "good genes"
>>78574234
>this
this britbong learn it the hard way.
>old men running the world
>>78574339
But how do we elect a king?
>>78573780
>You're only allowed to vote if you're a sheep swayed by the lightest of arguments.
Your system is the exact opposite of what we want. "Someone whose mind can be changed" is a code word for "idiot who doesn't care about politics or have any real principles". Anyone intelligent has already researched the subject has no reason to change his belief unless the other side actually changes.
Either way it means you'll get maybe a 0.5% voter turn out.
None of this should be implemented. Instead we should see more democracy, like that of Switzerland. Give the people direct democracy.
>>78573136
Under my plan I wouldn't be able to vote yet, but it would be for the better.
Libshits want to make voting age lower which is insane to think about.
>The level of rage coming from millennials here is insane. Why do you think old people want to leave in such overwhelming numbers? It's because they know how much better Europe was before the EU. They're not doing it to spite you, they think they're saving you - they want you to be able to enjoy the lives they had. Millennials are confusing and contradictory, one day they're complaining about overpopulation and lack of affordable housing, the next day they're shouting "nobody is illegal! open borders! mass immigration is good for the economy! Millennials are just all over the place, they're completely lost and simply following the popular narrative created for them by a bunch of bureaucratic elites and celebrities (the 'John Oliver liberals'). Then they have the audacity to paint themselves as some kind of super-intelligent all-knowing gods, calling people who've lived three fucking times longer than they have 'idiots'. People who have lived through the cold war, the war of capitalism vs communism, having nukes pointed at your face 24/7. Pampered millennials don't know shit about life. What a wasted generation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/4pl3ra/always_nice_to_see_that_trump_putin_gove_farage/d4mjhc8
>>78574548
With guns. Lots of 'em.
>>78574339
>enlightened monarchy
such a cuck you are
>>78574548
>But how do we elect a king?
You don't. He elects himself.
>>78574125
>BUILD A WALL!
>SMALL LOAN OF A MILLION DOLLARS!
I'm glad we managed to finally get out European cucklife. Not being egotistical though bro.
>>78574548
You don't, that's the point. You can unelect the king with lots of guns if he gets to uppity, though.
>>78564776
Yeah I'm all for weighted voting but it should have fuck all to do with age. Why the fuck should some 60 year old cat lady spinster have any say in the future of the country when she's got no skin in the game? Similarly why the fuck should some retard 20-year old single mother have any say when they're a leech on society?
If you're serving in the military you get a vote.
If you're married with children you get a vote.
If you're single but a working taxpayer you get a vote.
Otherwise go fuck yourself.
>>78565872
So what is the point? These arbitrary numbers that bremain damaged twats are now spouting for a 2nd referendum?
>N-NO! IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET 60% OF THE VOTE!
>N-NO! IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU THE VOTER TURNOUT WAS LESS THAN 75%
No one was arguing this for the Austrian elections mind you.
It's over, brexit won, fucking deal with it.
>>78564776
>old folk voted for the UK to be free
>the new generation voted for the UK to be cucked forever
the indoctrination has been working perfectly apparently
Realpolitik: whoever can secure for themselves the power to have a say will speak and vote. To impose such a system as this is madness and not a true democracy, unless a true democracy has decided upon it. If you can successfully and democratically restrict the voting rights of some group among you, then go ahead. But likely that group will gain influence someday anyway.
>>78567672
>
dumb fucking leaf
>>78567672
then don't open your stupid mouth if you don't know what the adults are talking about.
>>78575015
>Dumb fucking burger
>>78564776
>democracy is great....except when it does things I don't want!
ffs kys. face the fucking fact that not everyone who voted leave is old. not only that, but many old fucks voted remain you retard
>>78574803
so you rely on pure luck to get a good ruler?
>>78564776
You need political equality for it to be a democracy.
>>78573414
citation needed
>>78565024
>Should've stayed a fucking monarchy then.
Actually..
Why don't they re-establish a monarchy?
That could allow for drastic structural change that may be necessary to cope with the change in technology and institutional systems.
>>78575335
read the thread before you post pls
Nice op except how about:
Land owning: 1 vote = 1 vote
Not land owning: 1 vote = 0 vote
>>78564776
It should be weighted so that people can't get representation without taxation, so you probably contribute cents of income tax
>But then the country would be ruled by the rich!
It already is; it would just give a chance for the middle class who can't afford to lobby to effectively pool their money together
Although democracy is a sham anyway
>>78575351
There is no satisfying way to elect a good ruler. However, the first ruler who has enough intellect and power to enforce his rule and declare himself king is usually competent.
However, the flaw of kings is that it's worshiping the abilities of an autocrat and hoping that his skills in his lineage for it to eventually pass down when it doesn't.
There are good examples of rulers who declared themselves king (Napoleon, that one South American king who's name I forgot) but there are also horrible ones like in Africa.
A king is not a proper form of government.
>>78570475
You won't be in the EU when the UK leaves and they won't take you alone.
>>78564776
Age 18-28: 0.5 vote
Age 29 - 72: 1 vote
Age 73+: 0.5 vote
Additionally, you should pass a written exam that queries your factual knowledge of the party's policies. Failure to pass nulls your vote.
Congrats, now you have an intellectual democracy which is superior to a true democracy.
>>78575812
I could go along with this.
>>78565024
fpbp
you don't get to make up new rules for the democratic process just because you didn't like the outcome
It's like with freedom of speech, if you don't support democracy when your opponents win you don't support democracy at all.
>>78576118
What are you talking about buddy? I hope you don't think we are part of the UK!
>>78572995
The reason these people have had the comfiest lives ever are the efforts of previous generations, which is yet another argument to shut the fuck up and respect the decisions of the older generation.
>>78569112
>>78566755
>The average anglo intellectual
>>78568950
Yep now those 1500 people will now have 1 more vote than normal because that will actually do something.
>>78576847
except that this current older generation's decisions have already fucked their own kids in the ass. And they had one final fuck you yesterday
>>78576692
Bappety Bappety, bobbity bopidy?
>ay bopidy Bappety
People around the 23 age mark are the biggest threat to a free society at the moment.
Fuck off.
>>78573380
>It has no power to ask for or gain the infringement of individual rights.
But I just gave you examples when it did
It has done, and the most recent example we've slain is gay marriage. Up until then, a state could vote to prevent gays being married
I'm saying that there our system isn't one where the mob can't abuse it against minorities, and I'm giving you examples of that. Unless you think gay marriage was the last thing, and now it's perfect, then you can't content that we have a system wherein the mob cannot abuse minorities.
>>78577666
>60+
>people growing up in the 40s and 50s
>fucking anything up
Are you joking m8?
>>78566755
>>78569112
PLEASE tell me you're joking
>>78564776
Tyrannical garbage. Globalist cucks are starting to show their true colors.
What if we say you aren't allowed to vote unless you've paid taxes for ten unbroken years leading up to whatever is being voted on?
That should keep most Leftists from voting until well into their 40s, as well as preventing immigrants from voting until they've had time to settle and contribute and also prevent societal leaches from having a say in important matters.
I think I'm on to something here.
>>78577968
Allowing marriage is not an infringement of individual rights.
>>78564776
What you're complaining about has been foreseen by the earliest thinkers on the subject, which is why we don't have literal democracies, but rather republics.
We elect people we deem to be worthy (wise, intelligent etc) who then govern on our behest.
We don't, for example, tell the average citizens where ISIS's strongholds are and how we should proceed and then put that to a vote. We elect people that are entrusted to make the smart choices.
I think you're against the notions of plebiscite and national referendums, because the uninformed public gets to vote and it's easy to screw things up with this kind of system.
>>78578595
>What if we say you aren't allowed to vote unless you've paid taxes for ten unbroken years leading up to whatever is being voted on?
Boring, just go full right and say that you must serve in the army for X years and become a citizen.
Paying your taxes, when almost everyone does it, does not limit anything.
>>78578873
I'm not saying it was. I"m saying that the run up to allowing it was.
I"m saying that until the Supreme Court recently decided that you couldn't deny marriage, states could deny them marriage.
Thus, the idea that we have a system wherein the majority cannot infringe upon the rights of the minority is demonstrably untrue. Unless, of course, you think this was the last thing and now it's perfect, which is silly
>>78564776
This =/= Democracy
>>78579105
Sure it does. When I say pay your taxes, I mean you actually owe something at the end of the year. This is a concept you are probably yet unfamiliar with my young friend.
>>78579154
Well, no system is perfect. But I see your point. I'm just saying that we're not in a complete tyranny of the majority.
>>78564776
>Democracy
>Not using based Republicanism
Too bad the UK will used that system
>>78579374
>I mean you actually owe something at the end of the year.
Then you should've specified 'having debts' rather than just paying taxes, something basically everyone does.
>This is a concept you are probably yet unfamiliar with my young friend.
I just have a financial adviser do all the paperwork and pay everything for me. So I guess you're right in that I'm ignorant on what you're talking about.
>>78579464
Not complete, but whether what we have or not is good enough is probably largely dependent on whether or not you are a minority and in what ways
perfect system is philosopher king btw
>>78579657
No, taking your 4000 YTD income in T4s from your part time job to H&R block and having all your contributions refunded to you is not "paying taxes", its"filing taxes."
There is a big difference.
>>78564776
>Women can't vote.
>Ethnic minorities can't vote.
>Mentally ill people (i.e. anything not straight) can't vote.
>People younger than 25 or older than 70 can't vote.
>The weight of your vote is proportional to your income.
There, I just fixed democracy.
>>78564776
Nah.
It should be,
>If you're a soldier: 2 votes
>If you own property or pay more than $100,000/year in taxes/have more than $200,000 in assets:5 votes
>If you're over the age of 30: 2 votes
>If you're not a first or second generation immigrant: 2 votes
>Everyone else: 1 vote
People who have no stake in the system other than their gibmedats should not be able to vote themselves more gibmedats. It's retarded. People who DO have a stake in the system, i.e. those who primarily fund the system or would be most affected by war/domestic instability,deserve more of a vote. Also, the young are completely retarded idealists who don't know what the hell is going on, have contributed nothing to the system until they're in their late 20s/early 30s, and haven't broken free from their indoctrination yet.
>>78580175
So if you're a veteran non-immigrant over 30 who owns property you get 11 votes?
I like it
How about people who pay taxes get more votes, because it's their money being spent? Bonus votes if they own property.
People in the army, and their families, get more votes because they're making bigger sacrifices for the nation.
People who score highly on IQ tests or have a higher level of education get more votes because they're brainiacs.
18-21 definitely get less votes because they're ignorant children, and 70+ might be a bit mental or out of touch so less votes for them unless they can demonstrate knowledge and intelligent analysis of current affairs.
>>78564776
We need full fascism. Not this pleb white supremacist thing but real elite rule over the dumb masses.
>>78579747
>philosopher king
That's idealized bullshit. It's still just a smart autocrat which although sounds efficient, actually isn't.
a strong democratic state + a high turnout voter base + good legislative + executive + judiciary + healthy rotation party taking charge government is best. (with the paradox of having a reduced but strong government)
Plus also a strong laisser faire capitalism but with actual oversight and regulation to not be excessive like in Scandinavia or some other nordic place I forgot the name that's rich and has limited government. (basically the nordic model)
This is the perfect system and state. The problem is that it's almost impossible to obtain without sheer luck and hard work. It's not as easy as just 'finding the right man for the job'.
>>78580857
Fascism =/= Oligarchy
Also there is an oligarchy in every system. There's a term for it, but I forgot it.
>>78564776
You know, we used to have a really good system going where only land owners could vote.
And a certain class of people were worth only 3/5 a vote.
Maybe we should just go back to that?
>>78579747
>>78581579
>Maybe we should just go back to that?
It worked when everyone was poor as fuck, but now that the genie is out of the bag and capitalism has made the working class somewhat reasonably rich, they can't be pushed into not having a right to vote without mass riots.
>>78567254
IQ test + country history and political knowledge
>>78581906
Those don't have enough merit to be enforced.
>>78564776
>letting idiot children who want everything for free have more of a say
It should be like Starship Troopers; without civic service you shouldn't even be allowed rights.
>>78582090
There shouldn't be a civic service in the first place.
The way the UK does it is hardly a good implementation, where each "county" or sub-area or wahtever the bong-term is, a single winner is proclaimed, basically ignoring the votes on the 'loser'.
That means Labour can hold the mandate majority, with only 37% of the votes.
It's moronic/british.
>>78564776
I dont get /pol/ you all wanted the brexit so bad, but when it happens you complain and call them stupid.
Something i think you guys just complain to get attention, get a grip.
this is some AP Gov socratic seminar bullshit
Jefferson never said that.
>>78564776
Oh suddenly when leftys lose democracy is "not fair" anymore.
Please lefties. I dare you. Start an EU-wide civil war, so we can finally end you and your bullshit.
>>78573414
why stop there? Fact: Filipinos are the most powerful race on earth.
Filipino = 10 votes
>>78564776
that's bullshit, rabbi
>>78571602
someone post the picture of the libertarian convention for this faggot
he understands not what they really are
>>78583743
That guy is not from /pol/.
It's a reddit shill.
The always come here because if they would not, they would cannibalize themselves on reddit like rats you lock inside a room without food.
Fuck your gay ass weightings
Subject: 1 vote (this means everyone present, even illegals, to give the illusion that we care about their plight)
Citizen: +1 (That's right illegals. Fuck your shit)
White: +1 (We built society.)
Male: +1 (Do I even need to explain it?)
Woman married with kids: +1 (If you're doing what you should, be rewarded)
Served in military: +1 (Duh)
Own land: +1 (Incentivise not being a useless city hipster)
STEM Degree: +1 (Punish those who take Gender Studies)
25-34: +1 (Wisdom of age)
35-60: +2 (Wisdom intensifies)
61+: +1 (Wise, but possibly senile and doesn't have to live with bad decisions too much longer.)
