Spexit?
Frexit?
Nexit?
https://youtu.be/br8T0YTnl04
yes please, Italeave
The confederacy will rise again
I want to leave
>>78494950
I forgot where I read this, but Swexit is next.
>>78494950
yes please. lets see this euro "union" burn to the ground.
fuck the "union".
>Northern Ireland and Scotland leaving UK to rejoin EU
>sterling fell historically
>over 70% of British economy is in the Eurozone
>no prior deals were made to avoid tariffs into eurozone
>nothing stopping these companies from relocating into Eurozone country or for their demander to switch to a now cheaper supplier
>Their PM resigns to get of there as fast as possible
No one is as dumb as the British or should I say English / Welsh
>>78494950
Maybe netherlands or even france.
We're too cucked to go away.
We're going down with ship while we'll continue to lick merkels stinky boots.
The next referendum
>implicando the italian cucks got balls big enough
>>78495330
yes, please let Swexit become a thing!
Xaxa you idiot, we can't vote trough referendum for matters that concern the international community, and frankly I wouldn't have it any other way, seeing as 50%+ of italian are illiterate, gullible idiots.
>inb4 libcuck tears
Educate yourself in italian politics before making void statements.
>>78495296
>>78495103
>>78495389
Deportugal
>>78495863
may we join you after leaving these fascists?
>>78495631
This, but I think more like 70% Italians are illiterate dumbfucks.
>>78494950
Why not Quitaly?
>>78494950
Dude we are italians. We will stay in eu till the end meanwile we will take part of any other "organization" that will emerge.
Siamo maestri nel tenere il piede in due scarpe. Fear nothing.
>>78494950
>>78494950
Exitalia?
>>78494950
next
>>78495631
>>78496308
t. one of those 70% italian illiterate dumbfucks
>The faggy European Union will die in your lifetime
Everyone in Europe want off the ride
Fixit pls
>>78496485
Where's De Gasperi when you need him
>>78496308
Non sapevo che Lega Nord avesse il 70% del voto nazionale /s
>>78496806
Exibit A: terrone analfabeta che ricorre ad hominem appena qualcuno posta un opinione diversa dalla sua
>>78496607
hearty kek
It's going to be Mexit. MAGA
Ausxit when?
Topkek! Yes Italy pls leave, so that your corrupted politicians and lazy ass people will stop stealing EU money
>>78494950
next
>>78495389
nah, netherlands won't leave either
>>78497318
>italian flair
>"your" politicians
Perpetua il memino "hehe xd tt i politiki sn korroti kasta merda"
Protip: anche il più corrotto dei politici può fare del buono, sia per l'Italia che per l'Europa
>>78495631
We can if we bring back the monarchy and plebiscito the fuck out of the EU.
>>78497764
L'unica condizione a cui accetto il ritorno dei Savoia sul trono è se reclamano il trono del regno di Gerusalemme, che gli spetta di diritto come succcessori dei Lusignano.
>FIXIT 2017
>FIXIT 2017
>FIXIT 2017
SPAGHETTI SPAGHETTI MEATABALL PIZZA EYY FORGET ABOUT IT
When Sweden leave EU we will fucking invade it.
I want action and tension in Europe, not multiculturalism.
>>78496308
Yeah, but racists illetterate dumbfucks, everyone hates niggers here
>>78498089
>Fixit
>not Finnal Solution
>>78498286
STFU, Greece.
Pay your debts you communist scum.
>>78497235
is ExHibit A not Exibit A you illitterate mickey mouse latin degree fucktard
I love the word play!
ItalLeave, Italy Leave
FixIt, Finland fucking fixing it
Irexit when?
>>78498326
So what? It's not like if we leave Europe they will stop arriving from the sea
>>78498286
Is that what your mother made for dinner?
We all know your faggot ass isn't leaving the basement until you're 45.
>>78498658
>doyouevenpronounce,jpg
>>78497624
Ok dellimellow, ma pensa alla tempesta di merda, fallo per i lulzs
con tutti i debiti che abbiamo se usciamo prematuramente dall'europa lo prendiamo nel culo e basta
>>78498875
We can start shooting them down though.
Czechout
>>78499236
we can still build a wall... a big wall
![2000px-Flag_of_Texas.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6JXjsS4.jpg "2000px-Flag_of_Texas.svg[1].png")
>>78494950
Texit.
>>78497624
ogni settimana salta fuori uno scandalo diverso, quante giunte comunali sono state sciolte per mafia fino ad oggi? Quanti appalti truccati? Quante compravendite di voti grazie alle aziende municipalizzate? E questo non solo nelle grandi città, ma anche nei comuni più piccoli. L'Italia è un paese di corrotti e questo è il motivo per cui in Europa non abbiamo credito, però ce la prendiamo con l'EU e la Merkel quando la colpa è solo nostra perché non siamo capaci di eleggere persone qualificate e oneste. Se uscissimo dall'EU falliremmo in meno di 5 anni. Meritatamente. Da cent'anni a questa parte siamo stati governati da mussolini, democristiani bigotti, cattocomunisti e mafiosi, nel frattempo in Germania hanno avuto gente capace di fare 2 conti e le differenze oggi si vedono
>>78499236
Yeah right, plenty of Western countries literally shooting at them.
Italy should have sent back every one of them when they started arriving, as Malta did. They decided to not do that, and they signaled that Italy was a good place for niggers. It has nothing to do with Europe.
>>78494950
We don't have a Farange.
>>78498010
Anche quello inglese, che gli spetta come discendenti di Giacomo II il Cattolico
North Mexit when?
Don't want no chilangos my man
>>78497030
>Non sapevo che Lega Nord avesse il 70% del voto nazionale /s
The French are broke Frexit is odds on other wise knowing the French theyll revolt. When people are broke and a small minority have all the money (EU) revolution usually happens. God speed Frenchbros make it happen.
>>78499600
you can't send back anyone, lol. If someone comes to italy without any document you can't send him back anywhere since you don't know where does he come from.
QuItaly won't happen with the current government who are absolute bootlickers, BUT...
There's the M5S party that is very anti-EU and it's gaining foot very good.
It's not right wing but they do better than right wing actually, because they're very anti establishment.
There's hope.
>>78500074
See their boats from afar
Intimate them to stop
They don't
Shoot
Dexit...Gerxit...Fuckit. Let's just call it
"Germany quits, EU ceases to exist."
>>78500220
>M5S
Dear god, please, no.
>>78499600
Idiot we can't send them back due to EU Human Rights regulation. We pay 70 fucking euros for each one of them every single day while there are Italian families (I know some personally) that can't afford to feed their kids everyday
>>78496607
>Czechout
my sides
>>78500220
kys
>>78494950
We're not going to be pioneers in this.
We'll probably wait until one or two other countries leave.
Also I'm not sure what a 5S government would do, they'll probably follow the wind and change position accordingly.
Truth is we lack a proper nationalist right-wing party.
>>78500220
what Grillo write few days ago, as you can see Quitaly is not an option:
"L'Italia è uno dei paesi fondatori dell'Ue, ma ci sono molte cose di questa Europa che non funzionano - scrive Grillo nel post - l'unico modo per cambiare questa 'unione' è il costante impegno istituzionale, per questo il M5S si sta battendo per trasformare l'Ue dall'interno"
In Sweden three parties have called for renegotiations and one goes further with demanding a Swexit.. EU is going down folks!
Fixit!
Do you faggots know that the only way to leave EU is trought a military cup that will never happen?
>>78494950
Frexit, Nexit and Daxit
Everyone else is too cucked (i.e. Germany or Sweden) or too poor (i.e. eastern europe)
>>78500220
Tra l'UE e un comunista che urla in piazza preferisco l'UE a sto punto.
>>78500459
And what do you think will happen if we leave eu? That they will magically disappear? That Italy will institute death commandos to take them out?
>>78495371
Pretty easy for companies to relocate to Ireland, get the low Corp tax, still have their euro zone dealings and probably some sort of trade deal between Ireland and Britain
As far as i know, we Italians don't even have the option to start a referendum regarding international agreements or treaties signed by our government.
We have no say in such important international order matters, the decision is up to our government which is currently led by a slimy servant of the EU.
As i see it the only way for us to leave the EU, assuming this is somehow favourable for us, is to wait until EU disintegration.
tornatevene tutti su r/italy napoletani teste di cazzo, parlare in inglese vi renderà meno puzzolenti
>>78500220
>>78500613
M5S is controlled opposition.
Also see what will happen to their votes once they fuck up Rome.
Renzi only need to delay some funds from Rome and the city will be fucked together with the votes of M5S
PADANIA LIBERA
>>78500947
YES
DEPARTUGAL WHEN
>>78497318
Kek
Get them southern niggers out our union.
>>78497624
ma sei letteralmente deficiente? dio merda pensare che devo condividere un'intera nazione con gente come te, porco il clero bastardo
>>78500947
>That Italy will institute death commandos to take them out?
I know many ultrasettantenni who will gladly volunteer.
Why the fuck do all of you write in italian or some weird mix of english with italian words?
>>78501730
>>78501038
>Implying a delaying of the founds for local administration wouldn't negatively affect the already dropping popularity of the central government.
Do you expect M5S to just bend and take it without raising a national controversy against Renzi if such thing was to happen?
Look at Turin, after Mariamaddalena's idiotic threat of delaying funds for the local health infrastructure refurbishment in case of a M5S victory, PD was buttfucked first by the press and then lost the city.
Go figure.
>>78502435
I'm sure Renzi will try something to make them fail.
It's a shame because Rome is already fucked enough as it is.
>>78498586
Sorry, I've already begun unlearning what will no longer be EU's official language, can't blame me :^)
>>78501515
Napoli pls go
>>78501022
>parlare italiano in una board internazionale mi rende figo, alternativo e superiore alla plebaglia italiana *tips fedora*
>>78500220
Kys Movimento5Shill
>>78499509
Non ho mai insinuato nulla di contrario a quello che hai scritto, anzi condivido in pieno
>>78499985
Ayy
>>78503002
I think that given the current debt of Rome, they won't be left unscathed by their attempt to govern a destroyed city, even assuming they regularly finish their term of office without any kind of interference from the Cazzaro.
You fuckers want to bottle up the immigrants in here?
Are you fucking retarded?
Ora aspetto ottobre.
>>78501515
Anzi neanche "Napoli", sei proprio palesemente un idiota underage che andrebbe bannato qualora non per l'età se non altro per la completa ingenuità politica sulla cui base dai fiato a quella fogna per insultare senza neanche provare ad imbastire una risposta coerente.
Flash news: il mondo non é bianco e nero, ci sono politici incorruttibili che fanno (anche) del male e politici corrotti che fanno (anche) del bene.
Lurk moar e scendi dal tuo piedistallo, napoli.
>>78502435
>>78503002
>>78503716
M5S has the same exact politicians that were in Forza Italia, PD and all the minor parties, but now somehow they have the moral high ground
Which makes me think that maybe, just maybe, they're shooting themselves in the foot with this bullshit.
You can't govern a city like Rome without making the proverbial "inciuci della poltrona" and if M5S is gonna do that they're gonna get so much more flak than any other party that it'll fuck them up real bad in the next elections
Good riddance, desu
>>78504156
È quello che ti dici la mattina prima di andare al consiglio comunale?
>>78504487
A questo punto stai palesemente trollando, sei qui solo per rispondere con ad hominem e tirando bait a destra e a manca. Torna a succhiare il cazzo a Salvini che si sta raffreddando
>>78503731
>Move the fleet literally at a stone's throw from Lybia given the lack of a local government to formally oppose that
>Gotta Catch 'Em all niggers even before they leave Lybia territorial waters and send them back on the spot
It's literally that easy if it wasn't for the fact that we're too internationally weak to enforce such a serious decision, and that the fucking EU forces us to spend money for a retarded patrol&rescue mission within international waters.
Sea borders are much easier to control compared to land borders despite what retarded politicians and SJWs say.
Beacause gli altri non understand.
>Leave Europe
>Leave Italy
>Make Sicily Indipendent Again
>>78505136
Why not just declare war to libia and grab the clay?
You dense motherfucker, it's not Europe stopping us from doing that, it's Europe, ONU, Russia, America and the entire south mediterranean, along with our fucking government
>>78504907
È pure la prima volta che ti rispondo.
Si, comunque, ti stavo trollando. Ma era ben meritato. Il disinteresse per la politica italiana è un derivato della corruzione e della bassezza dei politici.
E tu sei qua a dire che fai corrotti italiani si può anche ottenere del buono. Come se la corruzione fosse lo standard e fare qualcosa di buono in bonus ammirevole.
La gente che si disinteressa della politica è deplorevole. Tu sei dannoso. Se pensi che anche questo è un ad hominem, allora sono le tue idee a essere dannose >>78504907
>>78498089
>FIXIT
>>78494950
We won't ever leave Europe, we have brains
>>78498089
>Not Finish
>>78505385
Quoto per la ragione completamente opposta, MAKE VENEZIA SERENISSIMA AGAIN
http://www.repubblica.it/politica/2016/06/23/news/brexit_i_cinque_stelle_scaricano_farage-142654189/
Kek, MS5Shill
They're Soros puppet
http://informare.over-blog.it/2016/04/l-inferno-di-soros-2-dietro-grillo-e-il-m5s-c-e-sempre-lui.html
>Make all Italian's Region Great Again!
We have to return to our roots.
>>78505784
you have no money more like it yuropoor
>>78506159
>>78506206
Statesmind
>>78504289
What do you mean with "the exact same politicians"?
I'm not one of those who thinks there could never be a corrupt M5S on the basis of their selection rules, but you have to admit that until now they certainly have the moral high ground, and anyway, placing people coming from outside of the usual power/clientelism system in local and central institutions can only be positive for a country as corrupt as Italy.
Unless you're a statal leech (employee) of course ;^)
>>78498658
I recks it
>>78505385
>>78505932
>>78506159
>>78506206
>twf no independent Sardinia (yet)
>>78506159
>regions
>not medieval towns
pleb.
>>78498415
based Norway stay eu-way!
>>78499388
And make the Africans pay for it.
Wait...
>>78505685
Confondi causa con effetto: è il disinteresse popolare a causare la corruzione. In realtà è probabilmente un circolo vizioso. Detto questo devi avermi mal interpretato perchè io propugno la più completa partecipazione, vivaddio ho una laurea in Scienze Politiche, come potrei fare altrimenti.
Quello che intendevo è che c'è del buono anche fra il marcio, e viceversa. Tu pensi che Moro, Berlinguer, De Gasperi non abbiano mai preso una singola mazzetta? Eppure hanno fatto tanto. Tl;dr non puoi adoperare una morale manicheista alla politica, altrimenti finisci con Robespierre "l'incorruttibile".
>>78505784
Too bad you don't have any balls
>>78506206
I think a federation would suit us better, that's too much fragmentation
>>78506206
Not with the current fucking Pope, he would let all niggers in.
Give us one of those badass medieval Popes and repay the Saracens with steel.
>>78500947
Dude, yes. We are basically forced to take them in because of that Mare Nostro shit our government signed with Europe. Also, Europe gives us funds to help the refugees and immigrants (which we steal and use for other things, of course). If we refuse to help them, the EU immediately breathes down on our neck.
If we leave Europe, money stops coming and you can bet your ass that we will shoot at all the boats and ships approaching our shores. We will finally be able to close the borders, which is one of the points the Leave side in UK most outlined and which sealed their victory.
We are doing it only for money, nothing else.
>>78506456
Departugal now!
>>78506691
We pay to the EU more money than we receive.
European funds are basically our money
>>78506456
lèl
>>78506416
All of the elected M5S people have had previous political assignments before they switched to M5S
Not only that, but most of those elected in the local governments are ALREADY under investigation for their past involvement in politics
It's not fresh air, it's the same stale air that we've been breathing for the last 20 years. But now it's in a can, with a fresh new name!
>>78506618
Amerishit pls go, he was right
>>78494950
I prefer Quitaly.
Also, Inverted Italy at the same time... Ireland... #Taigcontrol
>>78506737
HOW HAS EUROPE NOT ALREADY KICKED YOU OUT?
#ABORTUGAL 2017
>>78498290
My main man abdul would rape you guys :^)
>post yfw mosque in Milan
>>78506416
politicians of M5S have the decision power of a dead hamster...
all goes through Grillo (and before he died Casaleggio)
Grillo:herp derp i'm not going to be a politician...
>>78506206
>mfw many scholars admitted that Italy would have been much stronger and better if divided in different states/regions like during the Renaissance
>mfw quel ladro di Mazzini e compagnia bella hanno rovinato tutto
>>78507046
TOP KEK
AUSBROS ALWAYS DELIVER
>>78506876
t. piddino
>>78507126
Your ID kek
I propose Exitaly as official name.
>>78507126
>>78507252
Remember when the Savoia fucked everything up?
THE SOUTH WAS STRONG AND RICH!
THEN THE BAD NORTHERNER CAME AND STOLE EVERYTHING.
>>78507371
QUITALY
>>78506641
>>78506687
Tl;dr Giulio II risorge dalla tomba e proclama il Regno di Dio in terra, i Savoia tornano sul trono e indicono una crociata per reclamare il legittimo trono di Terra Santa.
A man can dream.
>>78506691
>and you can bet your ass that we will shoot at all the boats and ships approaching our shores.
Not with our current political class
>>78507371
what about no?
>>78505572
>Implying RU, EU, ONU, or south america are worth something
We're not talking about grabbing the clay retard, no one would really care to the point of taking actions against us if we were to just enforce a temporary maritime block on Lybia.
And anyway, we would just need USA approval, which were already eager for a military deployment in Lybia, and here we're just talking about maritime operations which in no way could be compared to, for example, the crimean escalation.
>>78507252
In a certain sense yes.
all italian regions thrived in their own way, but they were later conquered by foreign powers.
The problem is our unity was done like shit and we became the bad copy of other nations.
It was a huge mistake trying to imitate France centralization.
>>78496485
Let's dump the EU and restore the Holy Roman Empire
France, Germany, Italy, Austria and the entire Balcan plus Greece, Belgium, maybe even Spain
First thing we do is remove kebab
Second thing we do is conquer the Netherlands
Third thing war against Turkey to take back Constantinopel
>>78506206
One can only dream
>>78507593
>tfw this will never happen
>>78507526
We wuz cuozzi n' shit
I want a Frexit, blease
>>78507882
>>78507701
Holy Italian Empire non suona male, tutti i benefici della federalizzazione senza gli svantaggi della separazione netta.
>>78507320
>invitare un americancro ad andarsene da un thread in cui è venuto a gettare bait=essere stipendiato dal PD
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 0/8
>>78505784
You won't leave because you're too dependent on the EU, just like the eastern bloc. France, Austria, Benelux, Germany and the Nordic countries are the ones that could do without the EU. Maybe some ex-yugo country aswell.
>>78499858
>degradoland
>>78507815
Amen, kraut. Amen.
No Absburgs and their filthy double chins this time around though, thank you.
>>78494950
>Spexit?
no
>Frexit?
no
>Nexit?
no
Contain your Schadenfreude uneducated Burger, none of those countries can afford to leave without getting shitfucked.
Even GB might get shitfucked a domestic economy solely focusing on the Banking sector is a fragile thing (see Ireland) and with the bigboys bailbout gone GB might find themselves inmidst of downgrades and speculation. One way or the other, GB got the imminent S&P downgrade (cause S&P knew about the EU cherries for GB) means 'new capital' is already getting more expensiv and that is desastrous.
SCREENCAP
Pound Crisis in 2015
SCREENCAP
>>78495555
>Implying we reach quorum
>Implying italians vote to leave and the >goverment does not give a fuck, like the water >referendum
>>78506737
portugo
>>78508669
*2017 obviously
>>78495389
Frexit more likely than Nexit. We dutch people are cucks.
>>78508313
Swede's right. Too bad that we are in that "limbo" that we could or we could not be on our own. That's why a lot of us are unsure about this issue.
Also, Italy relies a lot on export, so it won't be so good, unless a weak Italian currency...
A lot of people here and at my workplace older than me (i was in high school during euro introduction) says that the downfall started right there, with the euro
>>78506869
What the fuck are you saying?
These people might have been involved in some other statal administration role, but none of them are refugees from other parties.
>>78507187
I am not one of those who blindly believes what M5S says, but the truth is that we don't really know about who really is behind them and in my opinion that's the weak point of M5S.
I myself would prefer a national party ala UKIP or FN, but at the moment we're stuck with M5S.
Other parties we have are worse if anything.
Italy is filled of corruptions.
C'mon look at this guy. Look his face. He is really euphoric, because he just made 7384728374 euros. And... Guess how? By talking with a guy on the web.
Gaaaaaaaaaahh
>>78508696
Every time someone reminds me of the water referendum I get so sad. I still wonder why we have not impaled those fuckers in Rome
>>78508313
Do you still buy into that anti-italian propaganda that holds Italy as an endless fund-sink?
Italy is and has always been a net contributor. That is, we give more than we recieve. It's true, we waste a lot, but that's our money we're wasting, surely not yours. I guess the term "swedecuck" IS fitting afterall.
>>78506456
i shot a sardinian when i was in the army
it was nice
>>78494950
Maybe we should be thinking about some kind of Southern Union (just the name puts my sides on orbit) because without Europe we're soooooo fuggggd.
>>78507596
Our current political class just wants to lick Merkel's wrinkled asshole and be patted on the head by the EU. Our politicians live for praise because they know they aren't worth shit.
As soon as we are out, we won't have to bend over to no one. They won't think twice about refusing all refugees and immigrants since there are no more rules to follow and fees to pay, especially if the racist parties finally take over.
>>78510679
Mediterranean League? Should we extend it to the heathens on the other banks of Mare Nostrum?
>inb4 I'm talking about greece
>>78494950
>Ire'll be going now
>>78495296
where to?
>>78510764
The only problem is, we cant close the fucking sea, so, unlike other countries, we keep spend a shitton of money to trow back muslim garbage, for us is better stay in europe and keep asking money for [spoiler]not[/spoiler] taking care of the refugees
mfw when Salvini is actually the best option to leave EU
>>78510764
>out of EU
>no more rules to follow
>no more fees to pay
Top shish my friend, top shish.
>>78509622
THIS
>>78494950
TEXIT
>>78495296
ok mexico
>>78510679
a union with
>spaniards
>muslims
>greeks
i'd rather die
>>78510679
>>78510764
You fuckers grow fruit and produce hot women
It's stupid you're stuck in an economic union that basically makes everything except heavy industry and banking useless.
Anyone in the EU other than Germany, France, and the Low Countries are retarded.
Next step is Britpleasecanwecomeback and you all know it
So are greeks officially the biggest cucks in the EU now?
Merkel fucked them with a strapon and they're still clinging on to it
>>78508669
>implying Le Pen won't choose Nigel over Merkel
Keep dreaming Kraut. It's over, France will leave next and our trade will bloom. In the meantime you'll revive Cologne over and over again.
>>78511288
And that by itself should be a big indicator about the connveniency of staying in the EU.
>inb4 troll pagato dal PD
Se qualcuno qui crede che Salvini sia capace di governare qualcosa che vada al di là di un aeroplanino telecomandato consiglio un corso accelerato di proiettili nel cervello.
>>78508893
>implying french aren't the biggest cucks
>>78510679
this, if we make an union better than EU, they will shit their pants and bend over
![AP596193451921_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/F2Mq36K.jpg "AP596193451921_3[1].jpg")
>>78511559
Next strep is "who the fucking care about your vote, we stay in!"
I think something like this is already happened somewhere
>>78511306
I meant fees for not taking in refugees. One of the reasons our government is so adamant in accepting them is because they (and the Church) get money for doing so and because if they refused EU would make us pay fee over fee.
However, it is also true that we as a country aren't absolutely prepared to give ourselves our own rules, should we leave EU like UK did. And that's one of the major problems the UK has to face now: give their burocracy some sense and try to survive the next few years without EU's support and laws.
We wouldn't be able to do that (and we would have to go back to the lira, an absolutely disastrous move).
>>78511657
Delusional_brit.jpg
>>78511526
It's called diversifying mansions: if you're in the same market as an otherwise competitor nation, you can focus 100% on what you're good at outputting, and the same holds true for anybody else, so the economy ends up being optimized.
>>78512371
optimize this
>>78512078
wouldn't we go back and be basically the china of europe, but with quality?
we make good shit and it will be very cheap when exported since the lira will be low-value. we would make big margins since euro and dollar will be stronger
yes some shit will be more expensive, but at least people won't be setting themselves on fire because they can't feed their families over those bullshit nazi taxes
>>78512078
Oh yeah absolutely, in fact the only thing an exit would accomplish is sovereignity over migrants regulamentations. Anything else we'd end up fucked. That's why the exit party is composed mostly of delusional nationalists that have little-to-no understanding about global economics.
>>78495212
SEXIT when?
>>78495371
Would Spain veto any attempt for Scotland to join EU in the event of independence? Due to the effects it might have on Catalonian/Basque independence?
Asking for a friend.
>>78510679
>>78511002
>>78511753
I prefer a union that involve italy and spain, later we will extend this union to portugal and greece. Maybe france too, but they need to remove kebab.
>>78513557
Obviously! You -yes, YOU TOO- must fight with all your might to not allow catalonia any independence whatsoever.
>>78495103
Czexit is a hot one
>>78513557
W-will spain p-please fix my royal (heh) fuckup?
Tbh you deseve scotland and ireland to break free from you backward bunch
>>78512371
Countries within EU are still competing against each others in any field and guess what, the only way for Italy to have a competitive industry was to progressively lower the value, which we couldn't do with an european centralized value.
If anything, joining EU has speed up the decline of our industry.
Your "optimisation" has basically killed all our research and production sector.
You're like one of those who says that Italy should live solely on tourism, basically downgrading us to a luxurious 3rd world country.
>>78514515
Hopefully they do, as an Irish Republican, it's the main reason I voted for Brexit.
>>78514534
But that's essentially the logical goal of free market: everyone products and provides only what it is best at doing.
I am not advocating in favor or against this, it's just a fact, and I'm not defending EU's economic policies in the last, I'm not very knowledgeable on this topic.
>>78514974
Oh, in this case. I guess that's pretty trasversal a reason to vote leave, but if it ends up working....well, godspeed.
>>78506456
>four niggers on the flag
Why
>>78515457
Because they tried to invade us and we killed them all.
>>78495631
You just have to make it non legally binding (just like the british one)
>and frankly I wouldn't have it any other way
top cuck
>seeing as 50%+ of italian are illiterate
nice m5s memes
>>78514534
twf 1000 lire will return
>>78513821
Italy and Spain are the greater southern countries, so we could be something great together, but man, I don't know how we could deal with our internal affairs, corruption and general southern laziness.
>>78500303
No Hans you're going down with the ship.... Merkel has you by the balls.
>>78512749
>wouldn't we go back and be basically the china of europe, but with quality?
We could become that, yes, but don't forget that our political class is beyond fucked. They are a bunch of retarded idiots who got where they are thanks to corruption, sexual favors, and money.
They have no idea how to lead a country and don't even care about doing it, they only want to earn their 15'000 euro every month and receive their lifelong pension.
If we left the EU, we could either become a good nation, strong with our rich culture and products, and finally say "fuck you all" to Europe and the other countries (like Romania and China) raping our ass since the dawn of time, or be invaded by them, since our government is mentally ill and thinks that "lots of alliances with third-world countries = lots of money and happiness for everyone".
Before leaving the EU, we should first change our politicians, change everything within our country and then, once strong enough to be sure to survive, do our own Exit.
>>78494950
Kabyles leave Algeria.
Kexit now.
>>78511264
but it's our money they give us
>>78516030
>I don't know how we could deal with our internal affairs, corruption and general southern laziness
as always, we try to remove it piece by piece
>>78506456
>no casu marzu
>>78516030
we were doing fine before, we'll be fine after
When EU decides imposes new taxes and fees upon us, people suffer. they must pay crazy taxes instead of feeding their families, schools become shittier, hospitals can't affor x rays to prevent deseases and on and on
The fear they spread in population is the weapon they have to keep us down
>>78515051
Aside from natural resources, any country, with adequate efforts and know how, can set itself for any kind of economy.
Italy is naturally rigged for food production and tourism, but we shouldn't resign ourself to be just that.
While we can't do anything about natural resources, it's only up to our skill, ingenuity and institutional order to choose which economic path to follow.
Do you think that Germany is mainly a industrial country just so?
Even having a sovereign currency coupled with what remains of our industry could give us an edge on export.
>>78500675
>a military cup
>>78516702
You are right, I forgot to include it. But I would have needed a good photo to do that, I'm too lazy to draw it. Eh, whatever.
>>78508669
Asshurt german detected
>>78511705
Casaleggio ti osserva, pedina #438903.
>>78516393
I agree with you, like a surgery it's a complicated operation that must be conduced by people who know what they are doing
But at the same time we were always a nation of retards and corrupt people, maybe more than we are today. And we still were better off. We had problems, but nothing like the problems we have now
>>78515844
If anything, M5S are the illiterate ones themselves.
E poi desu se credi che derogare alla costituzione sia da cuck, friendo, ti ricordo che le regole del sito dico 18+
>>78511559
They arent french..... wishy washy mother fuckers....
>>78517184
Man my stomach hurts just thinking about the brand we had to sold for this euro bullshit.
We had to sell lamborghini afaik. Fucking lamborghini. We were great. Someone has to lose their life for this outrage
>>78517530
Tl;dr di questo thread:
>voglio che l'italia resti nell'EU
"Haha xd piddino del cazzo"
>voglio che l'italia esca dall'EU
"Lololol leghista di merda
>critichi uno dei partiti sopraccitati
"Asdasd M5Stronzi :p :p :p"
Italian_politics.exe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUQ-jkBKl2c
Colgo l'occasione per spammare il mio canale /pol/ italiano
>>78516393
This.
Italy could have a great industry on top of tourism and agribusiness field, we have great universities and competent people, too bad our culture is geared towards corruption, and that basically is reflected in our institutions and leaders, thus fucking up any good effort.
It's not only EU that keeps us back, we are keeping ourselves back.
>>78499858
why facebook pages are so leftshit and cucked
I want a free Italy with decent gun laws
>>78517950
>>78517184
I am not claiming it's fair. It's probably not. But that's just how capitalist economy works, for the moment and the forseeable future.
>>78518411
try new jersey
>>78494950
Departugal
>>78518411
>Italy
>gun laws
I mean sure, why not, let's undo centuries of democratic and civil public life only to abide to some backwards redneck propaganda pushed by a state that's about to become the biggest cuck ever.
In realtà basterebbe eliminare gli zingari.
>>78518488
> Bait the nation into entering EU by saying we will earn more and working less
> Cuck the nation with strangling taxes treatening fees over fees
> While they are sinking, buy their shit for basically nothing
That's fair m8
>>78518883
Wait so being able to arm yourself is redneck propaganda in your country?
Stay in the EU and burn with germany please.... we don't need anymore autistic leftist countries
>>78518411
>free
If we're not free we have to thank berlusconi and his generation, not to mention politicans of the 70s and 80s, certainly not germany or eu.
>decent gun laws
pathetic
>>78518411
Go to niggermerica then
We had better gun laws. It was called "the middle ages"
>>78494950
I hope for this
>>78518246
It's not just our leaders, even the school system is fucked. Our universities and schools aren't good: they are led by old, ignorant people who have no idea how much the world has changed. They keep teaching the same stuff they taught 30 years ago, in the same ways of 30 years ago.
Why do you think so very few young people in Italy can speak correct English? Why do you think they are so delusional about the future, have no idea how history, politics, and geography work, and partecipate in so few extra-curricular activities?
There is corruption in the universities and schools too (professors that won't let students graduate so the government will give them more funds, schools wasting their own money, false advertisements) and this automatically reflects on our youth.
Let's not talk about the rest of our burocracy. At this point, either the Army finally decides to intervene or a miracle should happen for things to finally change.
>>78519292
why would you need to carry a gun? police is not enough?
>>78519264
Lavori per l'ufficio propaganda di Berlusconi? Perchè più biased di così si sconfina in casapound.
Certo, l'europa è stato anche un male, ma anche un bene. Solo che i benefici sono diluiti nel tempo e difficilmente palpabili, mentre i risvolti negativi sono poche, chiare stangate che vengono cavalcate dagli euroscettici più di jessica nigri a letto.
>>78518488
Yeah, i know, but resigning completely on many 2nd/3rd sector fields can only worsen our condition.
And anyway, the government manages to fuck up in something as simple as tourism...
So in the end, as obvious as it might sound, we really need to better ourselves and become much less corrupt and familistic, or the one and only "market" we'll ever be able to be successful in is that of retardedly huge and inefficient public administrations.
>>78494950
we can't have a referendum for international affairs
ITALEAVE WHEN?
>>78499134
See debt freezy and debt cut.
>>78499985
Fucking shill
>>78519292
Let's play stop the redneck. Oh wait nevermind that's a foul start, the redneck outed himself first. Seriously amerishits why is your kind so retardedly inbred and delusionally self-important that you think you can come into out thread and spew your shitty quasi-fascist propaganda over one of the oldest democracies on earth, and expect us to bask in your enlightened view of the world?
>>78518246
Corruption is a problem but not the number one problem. There are countless countries, from China to India, that are way more corrupted than us but have none of our economic problems.
We need huge reforms to the labour market and public administration as well as cutting pensions to imaginary sick people (who mostly live in southern italy).
>>78519292
If you click on his ID you will see he's been posting the most cucked shit for the entire thread, i hope he's just baiting and isn't actually this stupid
>>78494950
I sure hope it's not a Nexit. We're a trade country.
>>78520323
Spot* the redneck
>>78520150
please stop with your bagnai propaganda
>>78500220
You stupid goyim, M5S is pro EU
