/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle? I understand pistols (for defense in public) a shotgun (for defense in your home) and hunting rifles (for sport). Why do you need a damn machine gun that is solely designed for killing people? Don't even give me that "to overthrow a tyrannical government!" shit, 'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
>>78230373
Just ban all Muslims from gun ownership, citizenship, residency, and any and all constitutional rights.
DENY
INTERN
DEPORT
>>78230373
I think we can agree on SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>78230373
>there
>it's that word
>again
Who decides who is on the "terror watch list"?
So you want to stop gun violence
90% of gun violence is handguns
you think you should ban semi automatic rifles?
Also, anyone can be deemed a terrorist by the government in USA
one post
kill yourself
sage
NO WE CANT!
This so called, common sense measure is a ruse. Any president with the stroke of a pen, could easily put all Americans on that watchlist, no dice.
>>78230373
Seems you've never read this.
>>78230591
>well-regulated militia
If you won't accept regulation and order then you don't fulfill criteria anyways.
>>78230373
>Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle?
Because this is America you commie fuck. We didn't get to where we are today by asking Britain to kindly leave.
>>78230591
There is already legal precedent for banning certain arms from the public. For example you can't have a rocket launcher. Also felons are not allowed to on arms.
>>78230684
This addresses not dindu to dindu gun violence. These steps are taken to address mass shootings. Denying the device which allows a shooter to rapidly kill many people cuts down on casualties. While it still may happen with a pistol, the death count goes from 50 to maybe 12.
>>78230373
an AR is the best home defense, no guns. also tattoos are degenerate and disgusting.
>>78230373
>cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBQyxlsW2ag
Don't worry senpai, I've got it covered.
>>78230373
>assault rifle
>machine gun
>AR-15
Pick one, faggot
>>78230912
>There is already legal precedent for banning certain arms from the public. For example you can't have a rocket launcher. Also felons are not allowed to on arms.
So because we already have some unconstitutional laws, more are OK?
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns
OP if you don't mind me taking a nibble from your bait, I would like to know what exactly would a person have to do to land on that list.
I want to know ALL the things that would put someone on said list.
Once I know all of the criteria then we can have an actual conversation.
>>78230871
8/10 post. Almost perfect, forgot to call me a cuck though so you lost a point there. You also forgot to call me a shill and I was forced to deduct another point. Try again next time.
>>78230373
>Why do you need a damn machine gun
I might not.
But screw you, I want one, and I'm not hurting anyone with it.
>>78230373
You do know there is readily available technology that can disrupt drone signals and disable them right?
You also do know that the same people who operate and work on predator drones are also the same "gun nuts" you mock and laugh at, and who you expect to disarm the American people right?
The biggest supports of the 2nd Amendment is and always will be current military personnel and vets. What do you think theyre going to do? Disarm themselves?
Taking away the UNALIENABLE right to bear arms from people on the watch list is not only a violation of the 2nd amendment, but a violation of the 5th as well.
>>78230373
What is your criteria for differentiating assault rifles from hunting rifles?
>>78230912
what the fuck do you think an ar-15 is? its just a semi automatic rifle
They'll just bring a fucking shotgun and some pistols and kill 75% of the people
you're going to desecrate the constitution to save like 40 lives a year in a country of hundreds of millions?
>>78230373
"Assault rifle"
Automatic rifles are already banned in the US
>>78230862
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311
>(b) The classes of the militia are—
>(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
In conjunction with pic related, it literally just means, "So that the people can be well armed, their right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Federalist No. 29 backs this up.
>>78230476
/thread
>>78230862
>the right of the people
>the people
not the well regulated militias or members of the well regulated militias, the people
>>78230912
But you can own a rocket launcher maybe do your research next time before spouting off shit you know nothing about
>>78230373
Funny, AKs work just fine for every front that America has failed to win in the middle east.
Regardless, AR > shotgun for HD in literally every situation. Anyone who disagrees probably gets their gun knowledge from CSI.
>>78231335
ahmed please
>>78230373
The historical bases of the Second Amendment are English common law, the yeomanry (or the English tradition of universal armament), and the Glorious Revolution, which was precipitated by the last Catholic king of England attempting to trick Englishmen into giving up their rights by instituting formal hierarchic militias with centralized armories. Bearing arms is a right without criteria so as to frustrate efforts at incremental infringement or clever promises.
>>78230373
>More gun control.
You want America to be as safe as safe Mexico OP?
>>78230912
> While it still may happen with a pistol, the death count goes from 50 to maybe 12
>or 34 dead and 23 wounded
>Just ban the salt rifles goyim
>>78231594
NICE.
>>78231469
Momo Katzenhiemer
>>78231469
>he doesn't want to ban assault hajjis
wew
>>78230861
god i love whipping this out when leftys try acting like an abrams means armed resistance is a futile act
>>78230912
a rocket launcher is not "arms" but you can still own one
>>78230373
if you cant tell the difference between an ar-15 and an assault rifle you're prolly to stupid to talk about anything involving guns
>>78231061
You make a valid point. I want to know all the things that put a person on the terror watch list as well. Maybe a compromise is the best solution then. Publicize what gets you on the watchlist, then ban people on said list from purchasing guns with out further examination.
>>78230373
/pol/ can we all agree that two things that go nicely together are guns and snatch?
>>78230591
Her ex-husband is getting ass raped in prison because he thought it would be a good idea to cheat on that. What an idiot.
>>78230373
No, because you can be put on a "watch" list without any due process. It's absurd how many innocent people are on the no-fly list.
>>78230373
the 2nd amendment isn't about general defense or sport. sand niggers using AKs worked pretty well. AKs, ARs, and whatever else will work fine for us if need be.
>>78230373
Who decides who's going on the terror watch list and what are the criteria for doing so?
And, and that's the important part, isn't a terrorist (someone using violence to change politics) exactly what your founding fathers envisioned when they wrote down that law? And might this terror watch list gun ban not be something a tyrannical government would abuse?
>>78230912
There are pre-WWII firearms that have the exact same function, same ammo capacity and are MORE powerful than an AR-15. They just don't trigger the feels based on appearance. Not that you give a shit though.
And you conveniently didn't address the leaf's point that the government can essentially brand anyone or any group as a terrorist or terrorist group.
>>78231714
Honestly, the only people who think a homegrown insurgency is destined to inevitable failure are those who have never been in the military. People who know the tactics and the risks associated with them don't take the prospect of fighting armed insurgencies in this country, or in other country, very lightly. Such an effort would require very thorough cordon and search operations in a country of 320 million people. It's generally accepted that CQB situations like this, even against less skilled adversaries, will result in 50% casualties. Writing this off as irrelevant because muh drones is fucking ignorant and I dare OP to be the first man in the stack in a hostile situation. He'll learn pretty quick that a drone won't save him from getting his brain turned to pink mist.
>>78230373
>Asking why I need an assault rifle
>How else am I supposed to mow down a gay nightclub?
>>78231719
A rocket launcher is definitely arms. The redcoats were coming to seize cannons when the militia engaged them on the green in Lexington.
>>78230373
go fuck yourself. -Sincerely, The 2nd Amendment.
AR-15 is too dangerous nobody needs anything more than AR-10
>>78230373
why not ban them from the country instead?
>>78232462
topzozzle m8
>>78230373
sweet ass pussy shall not be infringed
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree
No.
>A civilian insurgency could never stand against the US military
Apparently it can if it fucks goats.
>>78230373
First tell me why I, a responsible man with no criminal history, no domestic violence history, no history of psychiatric treatment or drug abuse, should not be able to possess, carry or wield any rifle, pistol or automatic weapon of my choice for sport shooting or home defence?
If your answer includes the word NEED, you are a fool and will be ignored.
>>78230373
imagine the power goes out. 2 hours pass, wtf is going on, kinda mad now. 24 hours pass, damn we need to do something, all neighbors are outside of their houses now. 1 week, shit has hit the fan, niggers and spics everywhere looting, neighbors band together and hold most of them off by sheer numbers and intimidation.
1 month passes. cannibals roam the streets, the government tried to put everyone in camps, only the smart and the violent refused and now its coon town vs bean town. 30 round mags get dumped into hordes of zombie spics, some are even headless, walking around shouting in bean language no one understands, but their actions say it all. rape, steal, kill.
thank god we stockpiled all this food and ammo said only the people still alive and free. the libtards are being raped by jose whether they are in a camp or not.
>>78232623
kek
Assault rifles are the M.A.D. of weaponry against a tyrannical government. They MUST kill you of you brandish one in defiance, meaning they lose out on having another sheep producing em tax money.
>>78230373
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>>78230912
>Also felons are not allowed to on arms.
they lost that right through due process by being convicted by jury, not some bureaucrat putting his name on a list
>>78230373
>'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
Sounds like more people need to own predator drones then.
>>78231335
shekelberg
>>78230373
How exactly do you get on the terror watch list? What's procedure?
>>78231594
I like that dude
>>78230373
No we cannot agree. Why stop at the second amendment? Why not they put your name on a list and you just lose all your rights?
>>78232855
kek
>>78233465
Someone at DHS decides you belong on it and puts you there. No judicial oversight, no notification, nothing.
Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is an idiot. The constitution requires due process to deny people rights. Want to ban convicted terrorist from buying guns? That might be possible.
If you think Ahmed will be deterred by not being able to legally buy a gun you are a fool. TATP can be made with commonly available chemicals and has proven to be a highly effective explosive in numerous attacks including the recent bombing in Brussels. Not to mention that Mexico is flush with weapons including full auto which are much more difficult to legally acquire here.
>>78230373
>Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle?
Cause is fun like goddamn, why can't i just have a fucking gun without getting questioned
>>78230862
Do you understand the definition of well regulated? It doesn't involve gubbermint oversight, it means in proper working order
>>78231335
Rollerino
>>78234267
Yerushel Katzenfeld it is.
>>78232623
No you've got it all wrong. The problem with the AR-15 is too immature. Going down is only going to result in more casualties. For Christ Sake I don't even want to think how many people would die to AR-7's. We need to get an adult AR. An AR that can vote and understand responsibilities. Give them All AR-18's. That way the gun is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong.
>>78231671
>what is pearl harbor
>>78231335
rull
>>78233916
So the issue is that the terror watchlist and no-fly lists have zero due process and are completely arbitrary.
>>78234540
>implying Hawaii was a state in 1941
Pls be b8
>>78230862
>In the document that spends its entirety barring the federal government from restricting the freedoms of its citizens, "regulated" is surely meant in the way we freedom-hating faggots use it when we're talking about restricting the rights of others. Man, why didn't those wig-wearing geezers just say "restricted" instead of "regulated" that would have cleared a lot of things up.
Fuck you, move to Canada.
>>78234893
It was still part of the US, retard.
>>78230373
>Don't even give me that "to overthrow a tyrannical government!" shit, 'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
Yes because nobody has lost against guerillas in the past century. Especially not America.
Imagine all the trouble they have with PR when they're bombing shitstainistan and some innocents get blown up. Now imagine that's happening WITHIN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.
Not to mention that the more people rebel, the more of the military will come with them.
>>78235157
It was a part of the US like Puerto Rico is part of the US, dumbfuck. Admit your wrong instead of being a little nigger kike child.
>>78235357
>It was a part of the US
There, glad to see you admit your mistake.
>>78230373
From what I have heard we should have armed all this fuckers friends to the teeth and they would have taken care of him long ago....
>>78235357
>>78234893
Pearl Harbor itself, as a military base, was sovereign US soil.
>>78235465
>>78235157
You're still a pedantic retard for trying to count unincorporated territory as part of These United States in this argument.
Those people did not have the right to bear arms, citizens do.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
Not at all. It lets people know that they're on the terror watchlist, if they're denied a gun but don't have mental health issues or a criminal past. With this info, it'd be pretty easy for ISIS to figure out what the government knows about their sleeper agents
If there was a way to discretely do it sure, but there isn't without giving away important information.
>Hawaii
>1941
>A state
Man a lot of retards online these days.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
No because due process you shit
>>78230373
in a country far away, the people were having a hard time with their government. so ours graciously gave them guns to fight back against their corrupt governments.
what kind of guns did our government give them?
so why do they these guns but we dont?
>>78236176
>Those people did not have the right to bear arms, citizens do.
You're pulling on some really thin strings to try to defend your poorly made picture, you knokw.
>>78230373
>Giving the state absolute control over who can be stripped of a constitutional right without due process
Oh boy, another bait thread. Sounds gr8 senpai. Definitely no potential for abuse.
>>78231335
rolling so i may ascend from the goyim and take my place among the chosen people
>>78230373
You have the distinct honor of being the 10,000th Hill Shill to post the same tired anti-gun nonsense, congrats on achieving mega-faggotry!
Under Obama and Hillary
>>Terror watch list means white Christian Americans and Veterans.
Under Trump.
>>Terror watch list means actual terrorists, who serve a threat to national security.
>>78236639
You mean the whole premise it's founded on? You're attacking the ancillary details (incorrectly) and ignoring the main thrust. That's not how you win an argument, that's how a sixteen year old convinces himself that all the adults are wrong.
>>78231432
I have a Saiga with a 30 round drum full of 000 buck that says otherwise.
No need to aim, I can rain hell from the hip. I can swap those out for #7 and get rid of all the guesswork.
>>78230373
>machine gun
you're just retarded
>>78231577
The nigger could have made a pair of pressure cooker bombs and killed everyone in that building. The death count would have been like OKC. Wanna ban pressure cookers?
>>78230373
Fuck yourself, I'm a leftwing Berniefag and this leftist bitch sums up my argument perfectly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3sGZSSiJh0&feature=youtu.be
Why does due process mean nothing?
>>78237107
This is the most autistic post I've ever seen on 4chan, with your previous post being a close second.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
>/pol/ can we agree that denying people due process and restricting their right to purchase guns is a good idea?
We are gonna have to agree to disagree commie.
>>78230373
i am all for banning terrorists from purchasing guns
only problem is, literally anyone could be on the terror watch list and not know it, meaning average people could be disbarred. So either you fix that system or forget it
>>78230373
The 2nd Amendment was put into the constitution so that the people could rebel against the government if it were to become oppressive and corrupt. Any gun control measure is unconstitutional and should be illegal. But, the Supreme Court has yet to give any reasoning as to WHY we have the right to bare arms. If they do that then the only logical answer is that the American people were given the right to have control over the government and that gun laws like the cali 10 round mag limit and the National Firearms Act of 1934 (which makes fully automatic weapons illegal for civilian purchase) are ILLEGAL.
>>78237582
I think terrorist should be fully armed. That makes it more sporting when I blow their fucking heads off.
In my opinion, it's a tricky situation.
According to most liberals, Edward Snowden is a hero, right? So with that in mind, the American Government has officially labelled him a "terrorist" or traitor.
The point I'm getting at, is where does that stop?
In a perfect world, I'd agree with the OP. Because the only people on the terror watch list / criminal database would be truly evil people. But the fact of the matter is, the system doesn't work like that. And is often abused.
The next point would be -- Wouldn't putting them on a banned watch list mean that they can become aware of their status.
What if it were a spy or terrorist being tipped off to their status, meaning they can get away easily.
Don't become Australia. It sucks.
>>78234536
9/10 post friend
>>78230373
No because they can simply put anyone on a watchlist as a loophole to void their constitutional rights.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>78230373
FUCK YOU COCKMONLGER
>>78234774
Exactly. I think everyone here is okay with terrorist not having guns.. problem is, it's fucking impossible to get off those lists, and since there's no due process, the whole idea is unconstitutional on its face.
Nice try gun grabbers. Maybe next time.
>>78230373
>Don't even give me that "to overthrow a tyrannical government!" shit, 'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
Sorry, you don't get a choice in the matter. I need an assault rifle to fight the government. Period.
>>78230373
No, can we agree that banning all people who vote democrat from owning guns is a good idea?
>>78230373
The ones making the list are the real terrorists.
>>78231335
rollerino
>>78230373
It's a bad idea.
As soon as the purchase fails, they will know they are being watched. Then they'll be extra careful.
>people on the terror watch
I wonder how the liberals would feel if they called it by it's real name, the Muslim Watch List.
>>78240176
>how do i get my gibs...
>if i dindu nuffin?
>>78234540
A military attacking primarily military targets. So basically, an act of war
>>78240176
>>78230373
DUE PROCESS
Realize....
I would rather my enemy has the same right to a weapon as I do rather than I have no right to any weapon at all.
>>78240895
This thread has remarkable parallels to the age of consent thread.
>>78241065
I'm pretty torn on this issue. I own several guns including AR's and my record isn't completely clean so I get delayed on a lot of gun purchases(all for 2 DUIs, minor in possesion of alcohol that occured 8+ years ago).
Theoretically it sounds nice. We don't want Muslim terrorists getting guns. The problem with the current .gov SJW climate. Its just too easy to abuse as a power play.
A lot of this falls on the individual dealer. They have a right to refuse. I do feel that if I were an FFL, I'd be refusing every Muslim besides Bosnian's.
The government should just mail an assault rifle with a box of ammo to every household and let this all play out.
OP should be on a shitpost watch list.
If you're on the shitpost watch list, your 1st amendment rights are revoked. OP must stfu.
Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers. A watch list means nothing. Which means anyone can be added to it at any time.
Innocent, law abiding citizens should not be punished for the actions of a handful of crazy people.
Reactionary laws are universally unjust. The victims are too close to a given situation to have a worthwhile opinion about it. Your feelings should not have any impact on the lives of others.
![CeKzpcEUAAAg_3q[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Hyz1iC2.jpg "CeKzpcEUAAAg_3q[1].jpg")
>tfw the majority of people wanting the law aren't questioning who the fuck gets on a terror list and thinks that's the acceptable norm to begin with
>>78230373
Assault rifles are select fire. They've been banned for 30 years. The AR-15 is not an assault rifle. Machine guns are fully automatic and again have been banned for 30 years. And trust me a civil war WILL destroy America if it ever gets that bad. The American people have the right to maintain state militias and bear arms, and that DOES include "militarized weapons." That's what the revolution was fought with, cannons and shit.
>>78230373
No. There is no due process, and there have been literal infants that have wound up on the watch list.
You want the ATF to inform the FBI whenever someone on their list buys a gun, fine. But to ban them? No. It will just cause them to turn to straw purchases, and tip them off that they are on a watch list.
>>78241977
that's a good point. If they are that set on getting a gun they will have somebody do a straw purchase.
>>78230373
It's a moot question anyway. You don't get other constitutional rights taken away from you by being on the terror watch list (like you do by being a felon, e.g. voting rights) and I don't think it would be constitutional. Also, generally the police don't want people to know they're on a terror watch list, as that would warn them and prevent them from catching them with some actual evidence to make a good case and put them behind bars.
2/3 of gun deaths are self inflicted........ handguns are more than enough
>>78242506
More than enough for what? Allowable guns?
Then what happens when the next shooting has someone with multiple handguns, each with at least one 30 round mag? Mags are easy to create, so banning them won't stop anything.
That's not even discussing shipping incomplete guns, or 3D printers.
>>78230861
/thread
>>78242365
oh stop with that shit the only people the FBI get are the ones they set up as patsies
>>78230861
Oh, I've read it; it is very funny. Complete fiction, but funny.
>>78231005
Body quite detectable under space blanket. What was your point?
>>78230373
>can we agree
Where the fuck do you think we are?
>>78230373
Military has em, so can we. Dont like it, leave our fucking country.
>>78237551
Yeah; you CLAIM to love freedom, but what you REALLY love is guns.
So everyone here would agree that our country has been fucking up for decades
You people who support the 2nd for checking the government really need to explain why it continues to fuck us despite all of our guns
>>78244188
The illusion of freedom. It's why Trump won the nomination, despite the fact that the entire GOP hates him.
>>78230373
>assault rifle
>machine gun
Pick one.
Also, I am not opposed to keeping people on the terror watch list from buying guns, that's just common sense. I'm just more concerned with keeping them from getting into the country in the first place.
Also, asking "why do you need an assault rifle?" is pretty much the same thing as asking "why do you need a super high-powered PC just to play games?" or "why do you need an expensive car when a used Toyota works just as well?" Need has nothing to do with it; collecting guns is a hobby like anything else.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree
slide thread and filtered.
>>78231335
aayy
>>78230373
> Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle?
To kill branch of faggots, isn't it obvious?
>>78231939
Holy shit, seriously?
I would fucking donate a kidney to a childrens hospital if it meant having a smoking hot wiafu who can shoot.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
No I will not agree to this you fucking shit poster
DUE PROCESS
>why do you need an assault rifle
an AR-15 is not an assault rifle
you're fucking retarded
>>78244709
whats the AR stand for?
>>78231335
Bait.
>>78244929
Armalite. The company that built it originally. Just like Smith and Wesson calls their version the M&P 15.
>>78231335
rell
>>78230476
/thread hard
>>78230373
>your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
I think you underestimate the power of the American people. If all of the gun owners rose up, they could easily stand a good chance of overthrowing the government. The 1st American revolution was only fought by a 3rd of the population. To be honest, I do not think the scenario of a 2nd revolution will play out in our lives. Maybe another 200 years or so.
oh and also
>The Right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>78230591
/thread
>>78230373
>Implying the U.S. government would predator drone their own land and people
why is removing the constitutional rights of people who have committed no crime better than removing the constitutional rights of Muslims, a organization whose stated goal is to conquer all political entities and replace them with Islamic law by force?
you can not pretend to care about the rights of Muslims and then suddenly say its okay to remove the rights of people on some arbitrary watchlist.
>>78243697
Guy on the left is under a tarp, second guy is under a space blanket and leaves almost no signature. The design can be improved to leave no signature at all.
See -> http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com/2014/08/mvt-shield-availability-imminent/
>>78230373
AR = semi auto
AR x machine gun
AR x assault rifle
>>78230373
To keep the government in check, to keep the police in check, and I reiterate, to keep the government in check.
>>78245928
not to mention how many american military personel have american families kek
>>78231106
kek
+1 logic
>>78231335
Jew
>>78230373
No. Because they do nothing to stop actual terrorists. The Orlando Shooter had been reported as suspicious and was suspected as being a potential terrorist, yet they did nothing.
Patriot Act gtfoh.
>>78230373
One of my best friends is on the no fly list. Why? His name matches that of an Earth Liberation Front terrorist.
It doesn't matter that he is 6' 5" 330 and the hippy faggot is 5'6 135.
The NAME is the one that causes the problem. So if he goes to fly somewhere he knows he is going to miss his flight because he is going to be in a room waiting for people from DHS to interview him to make sure he is not the person they are looking for.
So do you think he should have his 2nd Amendment rights taken away because some faggot who likes to burn down condos and Hummer Dealerships shares his name?
Why not put all your political enemies on the "do not fly" list - no trial - and they won't be able to own a gun. Why not remove their right to vote as well? hmm? Does that sound like a good idea to you?
>>78248525
>Why not put all your political enemies on the "do not fly" list - no trial - and they won't be able to own a gun.
Kinda like how the IRS would target conservatives. "How come every registered republican is on the No Fly list?" "That's just a coincidence"
>>78230862
District of Columbia vs Heller
McDonald vs City of Chicago
You are part of the militia, faggot.
>>78231055
So you're in favour of felons having easy access to guns?
>>78230373
The good thing about /pol/ is that complete morons like OP can say anything it's diseased mind gets from it masters, and the truth can be spelled out to it.
>>78249865
If you think they're dangerous, why'd you let them out of prison?
That's what prison is for.
>>78250338
kek
>>78231794
>Publicize what gets you on the watchlist, then ban people on said list from purchasing guns with out further examination.
the problem with publicizing what puts a person on the list is potential terrorists now know what to avoid doing.
as for compromise, the republicans tried but dems shot it down.
Republican bill would have made it that anyone whose name was on the list would have their gun purchase frozen for 3 days. Within those 3 days, the FBI would have to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that you are indeed a potential/suspected terrorist. They can't prove you guilty, you get to purchase your gun.
It's not the best, it still infringes upon a person's second amendment rights, but at least it keeps due process intact. Dems didn't like that idea though for some odd reason.
I agree. You only pistols such as pic related. It's a lot more concealable than rifles.
>>78230373
>Terror watch list
That's not due process you commie bastard.
>>78249865
This attitude pisses me off.
Either, 1. you let them out, so they aren't a felon any longer. They are now a citizen, or 2., you know they're still dangerous but you let them out because it makes you feeeeeeel better about yourself, and fuck the next person they kill, right?
>>78230476
most shooting sprees are done with illegal purchases
>>78249865
Strawman
Nobody is saying Felon's should be allowed guns, at least not ones convicted of any sort of violent crime. The person you linked to is a dumbass who doesn't understand our constitution allows for a person's rights to be restricted, provided they are given due process.
A felon convicted of a violent crime has been given a fair and speedy trial. proven guilty, in a court of law, allowed a lawyer, tried by a jury of his peers (if he so wishes) and all other things that go into due process.
This is why us not allowing felons to vote is not unconstitutional.
>>78243978
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
>>78230373
>o overthrow a tyrannical government
>Strawman
What about a civil war? Society and the government collapses? The US government would only start bombing it's own people and infrastructure as a last resort.
You really think civilians armed with assault rifles wouldn't be any harder to defeat? You think they have a drone for each citizen?
Don't let them take them off you burgers, I fucking hate the nanny state we live in, it's the worst thing about Australia.
>>78231794
>>78250620
a compromise implies we both get something out of it that we want
he just wants more gun control in a way that violates the 5th and 14th amendments
that isn't a compromise
>>78250957
You're giving them a lifetime of punishment.
You're admitting that they will never pay their debt to society, and will always live outside of it.
Which is why so many of them re-commit.
>>78251299
OR maybe they recommit because of retarded leftist judges that let violent criminals go free. The recidivism rate for Blacks and Latinos is much higher for a reason, they're more likely to get out on bullshit appeals.
>>78230373
>get rid of due process
>Bill of Needs
>AR15=automatic high speed killing muhsheen
>civil wars and revolutions don't happen the way they do in real life, food grows itself, factories run themselves, no one disobeys orders
>UAVs are self sufficient, omniscient, omnipotent beings
So much autism is one post. Please leave the internet or at least this board.
sage
>>78230373
Daily reminder that in the last couple of gun control policy hearings the GOP and NRA introduced ones that banned people on a no-fly list from obtaining firearms with the condition of due process.
The DNC unanimously voted nay for all of them because they will not compromise on people being added through due process and are currently sitting on the house floor expecting Paul "Flip-Flop" Ryan to cave in to the children's demands.
This also getting completely dishonest exposure and the support of a completely ignorant and incompetent population.
The slippery slope is now completely covered in Astroglide.
>>78230862
Wrong meaning faggot.
>>78252602
Daily misinformation post
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
yes
>Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle?
Assault rifles are already heavily regulated. The AR15 is not an assualt rifle. It's not more dangerous than the average semiautomatic hunting rifle
>>78230862
All of the founding documents that the Constitution is based on state that the militia is every able-bodied resident.
Your ignorance is appalling, but not unexpected.
>>78231671
>Japan
>UK
>US
Weren't those just deaths in the world wars? Forgive me, I'm not sharp on my history, but those countries never got their native soils invaded by foot soldiers, right? Why would civilian gun ownership be relevant at all?
>>78254952
We weren't invaded Because of the guns.
Look up the sayings of Yamamoto.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
It's called due fucking process fuck face.
>>78230476
Thread ended here.
>>78255185
I read his quotes and read his wiki, and it doesn't say anything about him fearing american civilian gun ownership, just about him fearing america's industrial outpout. That he believed his only hope of success was getting a few big wins quickly in the pacific ocean due to US under-preparedness.
Shipping soldiers across an ocean to fight on foot against an army bigger than yours has a lot of other problems other than whether or not the civilian population owns guns.
I don't buy that image
>>78231671
>>78256771
>I read his quotes and read his wiki, and it doesn't say anything about him fearing american civilian gun ownership
Isoroku Yamamoto - Wikiquote
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto
Isoroku Yamamoto (4 April 1884 – 18 April 1943) ... You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
There you go, snookums. Mommy will be up to tuck ums into bed soon.
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
>Also why the fuck do you need an assault rifle? I understand pistols (for defense in public) a shotgun (for defense in your home) and hunting rifles (for sport). Why do you need a damn machine gun that is solely designed for killing people? Don't even give me that "to overthrow a tyrannical government!" shit, 'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
This must be the 5th time I have seen this thread with this same everything for the OP.
>>78230862
>>78231226
>>78234169
>>78235135
>>78254162
You're all wrong, and need to re-read the 2nd Amendment as it was written. Good day.
>>78256943
You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
It has been declared this attribution is "unsubstantiated and almost certainly bogus, even though it has been repeated thousands of times in various Internet postings. There is no record of the commander in chief of Japan’s wartime fleet ever saying it."
It says that that's a bogus quote right there in the very link you gave me, are you just messing with me?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/
Prof. Goldstein: I have never seen it in writing. It has been attributed to the Prange files [the files of the late Gordon W. Prange, chief historian on the staff of Gen. Douglas MacArthur] but no one had ever seen it or cited it from where they got it. Some people say that it came from our work but I never said it. … As of today it is bogus until someone can cite when and where.
>>78257085
The democrats have admitted to extensive psyops campaigns on social media.
Our tax dollars are probably funding OP's retardations.
>>78230476
>Just ban all Muslims.
ftfy
NO person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Guess what faggot, that includes the right to keep and bear arms
Guess what has no due process, getting on a 'watch list'
So NO I DONT AGREE
>>78230373
>'cause your little AR ain't going to do jack against a predator drone.
Actually it will do shit because when the US government starts using military weapons on their own population then other countries would attack America to "Free the people from the tyrannical government" and that little AR will help light the fuse for the downfall of the government if they go batshit insane in the public eye.
>>78231335
cock
>>78230373
>whys it it tyrannical to put someone on a list that limits their rights without trial?
>why doesnt the government just use its military might against the guerrilla insurgents?
liberal logic
We should ban Assault Prostitutes in the process.
They work like assassins using their HIV as a weapon to infect the hired hit.
... and you thought you guns were bad.
>>78257313
Weeh I can't win an argument so I'm just going to call them wrong and run away.
>>78258556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8
>>78240176
Well shit, if it was called the Muslim Watch List, don't you think conservatives would be much happier to ban people on it from having guns?
Ban the government and their stooges from having access to firearms first. They're the biggest terrorists around.
>>78230373
Why do you need an assault rifle? Because theyre fucking cool thats why.
>>78231335
Rolling. Hope I get Momo Bergenberg
>>78230373
>he wasn't on the fucking list !
Let's assume people on the no-fly list couldn't get guns...
Guess what, you clown? This guy wasn't even on the damn list! Obama and Lynch made sure of that.
You need to explain how that list could have prevented Orlando given that what-his-name wasn't on the list.
Top tip: you can.
>>78230373
>implying liberals won't get butthurt about how many Muslims are on the no fly list
>DOJ gets peer pressured by PC police to add less Arabic names
>Muslims go on shooting rampage
>"how kud we hav prevented dis??"
>>78230373
no it ain't, let them have their right to due process if American or have them deported; innocent until proven guilty and all that
while you're at it make FBI stop entraping people by radicalizing their targets so they have something to do
arbitrary lists of people are what made commies themselves the state-sponsored terrorist pieces of shit that they are
>>78257385
>(((Goldstein)))
"Oy vey, don't let the public know that gun owners keep american soul safe from foreign invaders! It goes against out agenda!"
>>78230373
>/pol/ can we agree that banning people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns is a good idea?
5th amendment you mother fucker
>>78230373
Only if they aren't american citizens. We have a right to due process under the law in this country. As long as any of these "watchlists" have no accountability then they can't be used as a valid source to take away someone's rights.
>>78231939
How do you get in jail for cheating?
>>78230373
Not the terror watchlist. If that were the case, then certain, outspoken, individuals could be placed on such a watchlist, and hence anyone who were to try organize some way to overthrow a corrupt government would be placed on such a list and have their guns removed.
Any non-American shouldn't have such rights (in America), especially Muslims, because background checks don't work. The best background check would be "you eat the bacon, you can buy a gun". Unfortunately, when you have presidents like Obummer, not even the radical Muslims, the legitimate threat, are considered terrorists, and it's the Trump supporters and 'racist conservatives' who are viewed as terrorists by the democratic party, and it would be these people who would be put on such lists.
>>78260893
He cheating on her with a little girl.
>>78258924
That's some retarded shit right there. Watched about 30 seconds and I can tell it's absolutely biased garbage.
The militia at the time of the founding fathers consisted of ordinary men, ready at a moment's notice, with their private weapons to defend against the British. There was no state involvement whatsoever.
Now please fuck off to mexico
>>78231335
Oy vey
eat shit kike
>>78262106
Second semester of my sophomore year I went to a frat party and they were playing this and then some kid freaked out and tried to pick a fight with one of the frat guys who had set up the table. It sure was something else. I left like thirty minutes later with this cute redhead who had gotten dragged there by a few of her friends. We didn't even fuck, just made out, then we talking for a couple of hours. Never got her number, kinda regret that.
>>78255185
That quote actually came from the movie Tora! Tora! Tora! not real life. I'm with you though lol
>>78230373
>chick leaning
Will womanlets ever learn?
>>78230657
THANK YOU
i have been asking the same question and whenever i do people act like they can't face the question
>>78231335
Letsa go
>>78248525
nice pic. using it.
