Is this why you hate him?
He was the greatest man to ever walk this earth
>>78118265
I love Jesus desu, f-am.
Literally who
>>78118265
I don't hate Jebus.
And we killed him
>>78118265
No I hate him because he was a Jew and I hate all Jews so...
>>78118265
>>78118265
Jesus, I trust in you.
>>78118362
The man who died on the cross for our sins so that we could be saved
>>78118459
Doesn't ring a bell
>>78118426
He was born of a virgin
>>78118496
>worshipping a dead kike on a stick
your ancestors are watching you, white men.
and they are laughing.
>>78118265
I love Jesus. Why would I hate him? He is my lord and savior. Jesus is the friend you always wanted, and needed more than you know.
>>78118545
And I'm sure Saint Olaf, Widukind, and Beowulf are tag teaming their asses..
>>78118265
Why is Hey Zeus ejaculating from his stab wound?
>>78118545
He died for everyone
>>78118265
i don't hate him. i just don't care.
>>78118537
>78118537
yea likely story
>>78118545
Yeah Europeans weren't predominantly Christian or anything you fucking retard
>>78118265
So wait Jesus dindu nuffin?
>>78118627
He was a sinner apparently not knowing what he was doing 2bqh familamb
>>78118705
It's your soul/salvation that's on the line imo senpai
>>78118943
Basically
He tagged teamed whores with his apostles. Judas betrayed him because their balls touched.
>>78118265
Didn't exist next question?
>>78119387
>when you're tag teaming whore with your apostles and you balls touch with one of them.
>>78118265
>Europe pre-dominantly Christian for 1600 years.
>Greatest achievements made under Christendom
>Jews hate Christ, you can be Hindu, Buddhist, atheist or Thor worshipping and still be let into the synagogue to commune as a Jew. Accepting Christ is the only way to be thrown out.
Yes, goyim, reject Christ for failed degenerate pagan deities that promote homosexuality and alternative lifestyles and Jewish Atheist and secular agnostic philosophers.
YOU FUCKING SHILLS.
GET. OUT.
>>78118265
Jews exploit Christians to defend their holy lands
![jews-are-not-semite[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8fqlv6d.jpg "jews-are-not-semite[2].jpg")
>>78118545
1. Jesus was not a jew
2. He died for all of us, as we see here: "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
>>78120262
>King of Jews was not a Jew
are you retard?
>>78118265
Jesus is my savior. Praise his holy name.
jesus was a man who was able to tap into the divine within him, let his ego thin out, and radiate that divine emanation to those near him. its called universal love, when the lover and the beloved merge, as in Rumi's writings. he was no more a god than any other holy man in history. what he did was very powerful, but his church was founded by crazy people. the reason for this is so that his message, however imperfect the messenger (the Church) could get to YOU. i mean YOU, 6079 Smith W. YOU ARE GOD. THIS IS GOD SPEAKING TO YOU, TELLING YOU ARE GOD. DO YOU UNDERSTAND. ITS NOT A 4CHAN USER POSTING A MESSAGE, ITS GOD SPEAKING TO YOU. BE LOVE
>>78119462
For our sins
>>78119543
Nice fedora
>>78119643
Is this true in Israel?
>>78120503
Kek
>>78119778
True. Muslims aren't to kind either.
>>78118319
Besides Longinus Godslayer, sure.
>>78120262
>2.
Amen
>>78120262
Wat.
Christianity is a spook
>>78120472
Anybody can die for your sins in that case. Jesus was not special
>>78118265
Jesus was a LONG HAIR BED WETTING LIBERAL KIKE.
WHOEVER BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE SHOULD GO KILL THEMSELVES
>>78120433
John 8
>Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
>>78120372
First of all, He did not follow the Jewish religion. If you doubt me, consider these two points:
a. The rabbis were the moral authority of the Jewish religion. Jesus condemned their teaching on multiple occasions, for example: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"
b. Jesus believed in the Holy Trinity, which includes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Jews did not. Therefore, Jesus is God, and God cannot be a follower of Himself. Therefore Jesus could not follow the Jewish religion.
Also, Jesus was not of modern Jewish heritage. He was a Galilean. The modern Jewish people are not Galilean, they are Ashkenazi Jewry. They originated when the Tengri Khazars decided to convert to one of the three major religions: Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Ofc they chose Judaism and then massive amounts of interbreeding happened and eventually the modern, white-looking jewish ethnicity was born. As it stands, the Galilean's ethnicity no longer exists.
>>78120773
No, in the logic of YHWH, it only works if he sacrifices his blood to humanity.
>>78120539
>implying Christ didn't walk this planet
>>78120773
Don't you see the contradiction within that statement, Jesus is the only one
>>78120539
He did exist; whether you chose to believe in Him is up to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
>>78120908
>a. The rabbis were the moral authority of the Jewish religion. Jesus condemned their teaching on multiple occasions, for example: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"
This isn't proof
>b. Jesus believed in the Holy Trinity, which includes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Jews did not. Therefore, Jesus is God, and God cannot be a follower of Himself. Therefore Jesus could not follow the Jewish religion.
This isn't proof.
>Also, Jesus was not of modern Jewish heritage. He was a Galilean. The modern Jewish people are not Galilean, they are Ashkenazi Jewry. They originated when the Tengri Khazars decided to convert to one of the three major religions: Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. Ofc they chose Judaism and then massive amounts of interbreeding happened and eventually the modern, white-looking jewish ethnicity was born. As it stands, the Galilean's ethnicity no longer exists
Evidence?
>>78120963
Because he was the one wronged by our sin. Only the offended party can forgive.
>>78120262
>delusional stormfagotry
>>78121073
Evidence?
>>78120963
Evidence?
>>78121027
No?
>>78120771
Atheism is a spook
>>78118265
>sinless
>deviated from judaism
this goy must be confused
>>78118265
I don't hate Jesus, I just think he was a cuck and kind of a let down for a savior. I get that times were different and he was just trying to civilize people but his teaching applied today have cucked so many people. Good thing god sent president Donald Trump to fix this shit.
God Emperor Trump.
True european GOD
>>78121072
https://www.historytoday.com/nicolas-soteri/khazaria-forgotten-jewish-empire
Here's your evidence.
>>78120372
The Queen of Britain is not British.
>>78121040
Jesus was real, maybe he is multiple "Jesi"
whether or not he rose up from the dead or performed magic is something else entirely.
>>78121130
Oh boy. One of these guys. Define evidence, because you fellows have a tendency toward claiming evidence as nothing short of 100% proof.
>>78121072
Also, how are the first two points not valid? They are from the Bible itself. They show what Jesus believed, whatever it was, it was NOT either "then" or "modern" Judaism.
>>78121193
> .com non peer-reviewed article
What does this have to do with Jesus? and not Evidence.
>>78121217
False equivalence.
Imagine that the Bible was never written. There would be no religions. Great right? Well, just as there would be no religions, there wouldn't be a moral compass for us to follow. We would have continued our barbaric ways, slaughtering each other and waging wars for no reason. We would be ruthless.
And I'm not just talking about Christianity. Every religion ever. If humans had no faith.
Believing in something greater than ourselves expanded the world and the universe we knew. It made everything seem bigger, more important and it gave purpose to those who felt like they had none. Believing in the words of encouragement, love, kindness and generosity from someone who would literally save you from the evil and brutal world - it's pretty cool actually. We got our morals, our wisdom and knowledge, our kindness and love from the religious beliefs.
True, not all words in the Bible speak of love but true faith doesn't follow a straight line. True faith is taking up the good words and putting them in action. It's pouring all our love into our hands and giving it to someone who needs it. And we don't have to worry about running out of it, because faith is infinite love, an endless spring.
Jesus is a faggot
Lord Kek is the one true God.
>>78121137
>>78121238
>Define evidence
Not my problem.
>>78121286
The bible itself is not a substitute for evidence.
>>78121372
You don't keep teaching adults the same way you taught them as children.
Yes, we needed faith in a power greater than ourselves to get to this point. Now we don't need that greater thing for morals.
>>78121295
>https://www.historytoday.com/nicolas-soteri/khazaria-forgotten-jewish-empire
You asked for evidence on my third point. If you want a more academic source:
"Khazars (khä′zärz), ancient Turkic people who appeared in Transcaucasia in the 2d cent. A.D. and subsequently settled in the lower Volga region. They emerged as a force in the 7th cent. and rose to great power. The Khazar empire extended (8th–10th cent.) from the northern shores of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea to the Urals and as far westward as Kiev. Itil, the Khazar capital in the Volga delta, was a great commercial center. The Khazars conquered the Volga Bulgars and the Crimea, levied tribute from the eastern Slavs, and warred with the Arabs, Persians, and Armenians. Religious tolerance was complete in the Khazar empire, which reached a relatively high degree of civilization. In the 8th cent. the Khazar nobility embraced Judaism, and Cyril and Methodius made some Christian converts among them in the 9th cent. In the 10th cent. the Khazars entered into friendly relations with the Byzantine Empire, which attempted to use them in the struggle against the Arabs. The Khazar empire fell when Sviatoslav, duke of Kiev, defeated its army in 965. The Khazars (or Chazars) are believed by some to have been the ancestors of many East European Jews."
- Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th Edition, Q2 2016, p1
>>78121522
>claims
What does this have to do with Jesus?
>>78121394
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS EVIDENCE? HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE BELIEVED THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY ACCOUNT IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IT THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY ON THIS POINT.
excuse my wroth.
>>78121383
PRAISE
>>78121611
Google.com if you need help learning what evidence is.
>>78121598
that he was not a modern ethnic Jew. He was part of a now-nonexistent ethnic group that died out because of the rise of the Ashekenzi jews.
>>78121394
Quit fighting God anon
Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
>>78121692
Evidence?
>>78121695
Prove God exists, then it would be possible to fight something.
>>78121383
>>78121618
From just earlier today
>>78121718
Don't bother, this is a theory developped by Israelists and Christian indentitists
It's trash
>>78121130
>Evidence?
Literacy and conceptual retention. It's a big book and it's way too late in the night to start flipping around for the exact quotes.
If you had even skimmed through at least once you would know that it was in there.
I won't ask you to take my word for it, but I'm not here to press you. If you're not ready to accept Christ, my pushing it on you only increases the chance you won't accept him before you die, which is very likely to bar you from paradise. I want no part in condemning skeptical but otherwise mediocre souls to oblivion.
>>78121849
Was it? I have no idea, I don't believe in anything here, only that which is provable, i'm an agnostic extremist.
>>78121286
>it's in the bible
>bible written 50 or so years after Jesus' death by men who never knew him
>using the bible as a primary source
niggawut.jpg
>>78118265
He was not sinless:
He was the son of God, but he was also human. I always figured that that was the real point of the verse where he curses the fig tree. He was human, and sometimes even he got mad. Like when he flipped over those tables and chased the guys charging money to enter the temple with a whip.
>>78121885
Not evidence.
>>78118265
He wasn't. He questioned his Father/God.
>>78121770
You're not new to this. My proof is Jesus rising from the grave. There's accounts of this and people were willing to die over it.
Prove God doesn't exist
>>78121394
>Not my problem.
It is your problem, because if we can't meet your arbitrary standard for evidence then it doesn't matter what we present. You're just what is commonly referred to as a mocker.
Similarly, if you hold one thing to a standard of evidence that exceeds your standard for evidence elsewhere then you're being obtuse and inconsistent.
Define evidence. What is your standard for establishing truth? 100% certainty? More probable than the negation? Do you hold that same standard consistently for all 'facts'?
>>78122166
>prove something doesn't exist
That's not how it works.
>>78121922
Even the jews pushed Jesus limits. He knew they were going to crucify him!
>>78118265
I'm an atheist and I still think he was a great guy. I believe that he died for my sins and I feel a special connection to Christianity.
>>78121922
Those weren't sins. You've completely misunderstood those passages.
>>78122255
My standard for evidence is the logical one.
I'm not mocking you.
It's not my problem you don't understand what evidence is.
>>78122292
They were even exchanging money in God's house back then!
>>78118319
Cucks 4 Christ!
>>78122316
Then why don't you confess him as Lord?
>>78122349
Your standard for evidence does not exist, because you have provided no evidence to the contrary.
>>78121939
I'm not here to prove to you there's something beyond for you, man. As long as you continue to believe you just die and nothing else when you die, you'll be absolutely correct and your fate will be oblivion.
Just as my unwillingness to pour through the book for you isn't your problem, your afterlife isn't mine and from what I've seen modern conditioning has made it so I can only hurt your chances at salvation.
>>78122475
you're confused.
Making a claim requires evidence.
>>78121137
A lack of belief isn't a fucking spook. Have you even read any Stirner? One it develops tenets, a moral code, or the ability o become decisive, it would become a spook. The Atheist community or internet atheism, however, are both spooks.
>>78122518
Notice how I don't insult you?
I just want evidence, that's all. Shouldn't be hard, if you can't you should probably stop arguing.
>>78122272
There are no married bachelors. It is true by definition, a negative has been proven.
Find a logical contradiction in God and you prove its non-existence. I'll even give you a definition to work from so it can't be wormed out of by working with a nebulous term.
God: The maximally great being.
Said being would have the following properties as defined.
Omnipotence: Capable of doing all things possible.
Omniscience: Knows all things that are knowable.
Omnipresent: Present in all places, and all times.
Omnibenevolent: Perfectly loving.
Is this agreeable?
>>78121176
>When he shoots lightning at you but you are the strongest man in existence and be like "nnnaaah bitch nigga"
Zeus is the fag lord of the Greek fags.
I can prove he exsists,so in the bible and throughout history,jews(those who dont accept jesus christ as their savior) have pretty much had blood on their hands since history can prove as we all ofcourse know that...now since these jews have been funding and promoting literal anti conservative/christian ideals and morality...have been profiting off war (rothschilds...nathan rothschild especially) and these jews have been known to dabble in real black arts...there's forces in power at THIS VERY MOMENT and its a bad vs good war and Christianity seems to be losing at this moment but trust me when things are tough and when christ does come again,this earth will tremble
>>78122349
>My standard for evidence is the logical one.
Logical, or reasonable? Because "more probable than the negation" is logical, but reasonable to me. It is not reasonable to others.
What is your standard for evidence? Define your terms. You are not Webster's dictionary. I am talking to a person. What standard for eviednce do you find "logical"?
>>78122618
>a negative has been proven.
You can't prove negatives anon. School teaches this.
>>78122723
Just show me evidence.
>>78122537
You're claiming God isn't real. You're trolling while your dad is upstairs getting cucked
>>78122753
I just presented a negative that is true, by definition. You can prove negatives by demonstrating they are logically impossible. A married bachelor is not logically possible. We do not need to scour the Universe at all possible intervals of time to prove such a thing does not exist.
>>78122789
I never claimed God was not real.
>>78122837
Finding the correct answer the wrong way is still illogical, because that system of thought cannot lead you to the correct answer consistently.
You don't understand logic, it's very important.
>>78122905
This one dude from a "debate club" with a degree in philosophy tried to convince me that logic is shit and holds back science on this very site.
The point being that no one is limited in how far their sophistry will take them once they have figured out how to lie.
>>78121518
Atheism is spreading like wildfire. It's suddenly taboo and wrong, no sorry, retarded to believe in anything but yourself. And look at our world right now.
Violence, death and destruction. That's funny isn't it? People say that religion creates war but it was actually just people who wielded the books as weapons. People.
"What I fear more than death is faithless people."
I'm not saying religion hasn't been used to control people, because it most certainly has. But in 10-20 more years, when religion is completely gone?
When people no longer believe that there's consequences to their actions, like "you'll go to hell for that" - it contests their moral compass. It removes the abyss that people used to fear falling into if they did something they couldn't defend morally.
>>78122842
Is God not the Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit?
>>78123031
Good lies are logical sound ones.
> jesus
>>78123149
They are logical on false premise.
>>78122615
You're minimizing what you know to be an undertaking for someone who is not a memorize-every-line fanatic, but let me take a browse and see if I can be guided to help you in a timely fashion.
>>78123085
I don't know, I know if Jesus was real that his father had sex with his mother through intercourse, marry, did not use protection and somehow got semen into her uterus.
Science has well explained how babies are made, if God id capable of this he is a human or can simulate human appendages.
>>78118265
Nah, he would be kissing the feet of shitskins if he was alive today. Jesus was one of the biggest cucks in history
>>78118265
1 John 5:19 ---> We live in a world under the control of the devil and his people who are fooling us.
jeremiah 8:8 -----> The law has been changed
2 corinthians 4:4 ----> the devil is called the god of this world and the people in the world call him a god
Matthew 10:25 ----> The true saviour will be called Beelzebub and prince of demons
Conclussion: Satan is the name of your God and Saviour, jesus is the fake, accept Satan and say it with your mouth: Save me Satan
>>78123217
I don't expect that from you, I just expect evidence when a claim is made.
You've just tried to take jabs at me since this started based on assumptions. You need to develop tolerance for what other people and other religions believe. Being critical wont help you.
>>78123184
True.
>>78122775
Jesus claimed to be God.
He died for that claim.
He rose again on the third day, appearing to a variety of persons across different times, places, and even culture/social standing.
Source? The Bible. Specifically the Pauline scriptures. These sources are widely regarded by secular scholars as historically valid, that they are accurate, in so far as the authors understood what they were reporting, and that the dating of their sources range within even a couple of years of the Cruxificion (plus or minus a few years).
If you disagree with the interpretation of the source, by all means, present an alternative to the account that makes more sense.
In these exchanges resurrection is typically discounted out of hand as probable unto impossible such that it can not be reasoned as more probably than ANY other explanation. Hence my insistence for a standard of evidence that you would concede. We can explore these points further, but there is a point in history which has no apparent explanation that is anything short of extraordinary. Our's is that the accounts are what they are. Jesus resurrected. Your explanation to the events would be?
Be sure to provide "evidence" for your arguments.
Jesus lived a pimp.
Jesus died a pimp.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Know what it is that I am saying?
>>78123454
Those are all claims, not evidence.
>>78123503
See the problem? You wouldn't even take the liberty of defining your own term and reject textual evidence from history out of hand.
You are a mocker.
>>78123226
If the Jesus you're talking about wasn't born of a virgin, made the paralyzed walk and the blind see, sinless, and rose from the grave after three days, then we're not talking about the same Jesus.
>>78123569
Evidence is evidence. You not knowing what evidence means is nobodies problem.
He shines the light on their darkness. The wicked hates the light and loves darkness
>>78123613
Nobody can be born from a virgin. That is nonsense.
>>78123733
Evidence?
>>78123454
Is the bible true? The bible says that the true saviour will not have as many temples and recognition as jesus has. Instead, he will be considered beelzebub and a prince of demons, both of which apply to Satan
>>78118265
Pray this prayer.
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, God’s only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
and he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic and apostolic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen
>>78123761
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_reproduction
>>78123492
Jesus Christ was a super star
A pimpin mack daddy in a Lincoln Town Car.
>>78123848
Amen
Cool laser beams, bro.
>>78118265
>tfw descendant of those who murdered him
feels fucking good.
>>78123344
>>78123907
Kek
>>78118265
He was basically a SJW-cuck of his times.
Today he would shout about feeling the bern and letting in the refugees.
>>78118265
I dont hate JESUS, i simply dont like a cult that says he is a god.
>>78121176
Why not Odin?
>>78121372
Muh moral compass. As usual. Imagine that people can have morality without religion.
>>78123907
So you're willing to accept claims that are not based on observation of every single human conception throughout history? Being able to observe a portion of pregnancies is a sufficient standard of evidence for you to accept the claims of another? You are willing to assume, on the basis of past events, that all future events will occur in the same way?
Sounds more like a claim more than it sounds like evidence.
This discussion aside: should be there free market for memes or we do need the state controlled memes, huh?
>>78118265
>bastard jew born from a cuckold situation
>sinless
Wew lad
>>78124096
Unlike your belief, mine is actually biblical, post every reaction image you have and it is still the same.
But go ahead explain to us how the bible is a lie and how we should ignore your belief and accept Satan.
>>78124241
It's not a claim, it's scientific fact.
Is there evidence of this exception I should make?
How babies are made is very well understood.
>>78124520
>scientific fact
I repeat.
So you're willing to accept claims that are not based on observation of every single human conception throughout history? Being able to observe a portion of pregnancies is a sufficient standard of evidence for you to accept the claims of another? You are willing to assume, on the basis of past events, that all future events will occur in the same way?
Yes or no?
>>78124570
Tell me your proposition for how Mary had Jesus?
>>78124631
Tell me your position for the appearances of Jesus Christ to the Apostles?
>>78124408
You must be a disillusioned former Christian, aren't you?
Worshiping Jebus didn't give you free pussy and a bag of shekels so you turned to Satan worship. Ok.
So tell me more about Satan, where are the temples, statues, unholy scriptures etc?
>>78124716
Don't change goalposts please.
Just tell me how you believe Mary was impregnated with Jesus. We will test your theory. I'm agnostic, I love being wrong.
>>78123350
I haven't jabbed at you. If you haven't read it you haven't read it, and if you don't believe you don't believe. These things aren't insults.
But, since you're not asking me to scour the book for specific passages, a simple reading of Matthew will give you the jist of how Abrahamic forgiveness works in the Christian mindset.
>>78124820
>Don't change goalposts please.
I didn't. I asked you first. >>78123454
You refused to define terms, and refused an alternative.
Give a little, get a little.
Ball is in your court.
>>78124793
>hihi, you don't find a true version of Satan and Satan is evil
See, this is what I mean, as the true Saviour he is, you are already defaming him and persecuting his people.
Keep proving me right.
>>78124870
If you say so my friend.
>>78124991
And this is not me saying it: it is YOUR bible.
Matthew 10:25
And since I, the master of the household, have been called the prince of demons, the members of my household will be called by even worse names!
>>78124903
You're changing goalposts. I've addressed all your points.
How was Mary impregnated with Jesus?
>>78123454
He was crucified for claiming he was the king of the Jews and being the son of God.
>>78124991
How am I persecuting his people?
I do agree with you: pleasures of flesh are better than prayer, fasting, chastity and shit.
So stop attacking the Bible. Tell me how Satan worship (aka true "God") did improve your life. Any testimonies?
>>78125360
>I am
Tomato Tomato?
I don't hate anything that doesn't exist. That would be silly.
>>78123795
Did not the pharisees consider Jesus' works that of the devil?
>>78118265
Jesus is actually a very valuable story in terms of creating a psyche, at least in white people, that doesn't constantly feel guilty about some kind of original sin or another.
The idea that Jesus died for our sins implies that we are all born without having to pay for the sins of our fathers and should be able to live for tomorrow rather than in shame over yesteryear. It's actually really sad that this main point of the Bible has been completely lost on modern society.
>>78125124
>Your explanation to the events would be?
Still waiting.
>>78125528
You're avoiding the question anon.
>>78125418
>So stop attacking the Bible
I don't, I am preaching the bible, this is what the bible says and this is why I quote the bible to prove my words.
As for how my life improved: unlike other people, my prayers come.
>>78125493
This is the text of the book however, not what we observe in real life, which should be what the bible describes, and the bible describes a saviour that is considered a prince of demons and beelzebub, which doesn't happen to jesus, but does to Satan.
It is amusing how many mental gymnastics one gets to observe by the end of the day, so hear me out in this fair warning: I only have the belief and am waiting so I receive every initiation rite I have to receive to be a de facto member of this church, so I am excused.
YOU HOWEVER AREN'T EXCUSED so you better start doing miracles left and right like your bible claims you will be able to do.
>>78125560
Back at ya
>destroying merchants stuff in the temple
sounds like a sin of wrath to me
>>78125653
I've never avoided any question.
But it's apparent you can't answer it. If you had any faith in it then the question would be very easy to answer.
>>78125360
>He was crucified for claiming he was the king of the Jews and being the son of God.
He was crucified for throwing the moneychangers out of the Temple, but especially...
>I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
>>78125720
>I've never avoided any question.
I just quoted it again in >>78125528
Assume I am mistaken and point out where you intended to address the question specifically.
>>78125804
I answered that question anon.
>>78125858
then please
>Assume I am mistaken and point out where you intended to address the question specifically.
>>78125928
Sexual Reproduction.
>>78125966
Sexual reproduction explains the Biblical claims of Jesus' resurrection?
>>78126001
Do you have another proposal for how Jesus was born?
>>78118265
>Is this why you hate him?
He was a bastard - his mother was a tramp.
He was a liar. He was whiny.
His apostles wanted to give money to the poor but he wanted it to be spent on fancy shit for himself - his response was "YOLO" (Matthew 26:6).
Hat tip to the Jewish priests and Roman government for getting rid of this troublesome bastard. I wish I could have nailed this troublesome rabbi to the cross myself.
>>78126060
Do you have another proposal for the claims of Jesus' resurrection?
>>78126112
You're changing goalposts.
I don't know if it's possible to come back from the dead, some medications can fake death, no living organism can live forever, DNA prevents this, and so do many other factors.
>>78125641
Ok. So New Testament is about a false prophet, Jesus. It describes what He did to show clearly He is a scam. And the true God is Satan. And you cite NT to prove that Satan rules the earth.
I have to disappoint you: possibly most Cuckians will agree that Satan/Devil rules the world. You must be blind not see it. And so you will obey the desires of your flesh.
Have they been sufficiently satisfied with your new belief?
>>78120886
Amen.
>>78118537
a virgin jew
>>78126258
Evidence?
>>78118265
I hate him because he cursed a fig tree. Fuck you Jesus figs are delicious.
>>78122607
shut the fuck up nigger
>>78126212
>this is what my eyes see, so this is reality
Do your eyes and objective measurement devices tell you, by any chance, that your eyes and objective measurement devices are fallible?
Be truthful in your answer.
This is how you deal with idiots.
>>78126258
And since you are so hell bent on proving jesus, you are about to do miracles in his name.
AND THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT FAGGOTS.
>>78119643
>Europe pre-dominantly Christian for 1600 years.
>Greatest achievements made under Christendom
>Clearly the latter is due to the former and not simply due to a long ass period of time being Christian
>>78120908
>a. The rabbis were the moral authority of the Jewish religion. Jesus condemned their teaching on multiple occasions, for example: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"
Using this logic Martin Luther wasn't Christian.
>>78126366
>Do your eyes and objective measurement devices tell you, by any chance, that your eyes and objective measurement devices are fallible?
If my eyes were fallible measurements, but i was able to function in the world i perceive just fine, then how would i know they are fallible?
i know what you're getting at, but philosophy is a can of worms.
Couldn't you just fuck off with these stupid, pointless religiouscuck threads?
All religions are man-made.
All gods are fake.
>>78126366
nice get lol
I do not need miracles. Most goyim worship or worshiped a dead kike on a stick. Goan check yer local church.
>>78126212
>You're changing goalposts.
No. Not to be a child about this, but I asked you first.
So with that said we can stay on track. And I legitimately thank you for conceding the question with the following:
>I don't know if it's possible to come back from the dead, some medications can fake death, no living organism can live forever, DNA prevents this, and so do many other factors.
Let's entertain some of these.
Medicine to fake death. This is in line with the swoon theory. Would the beaten bloody and otherwise near death Jesus be mistaken for gloriously resurrected if it were merely a product of medicine? This doesn't account for the apparent water in Jesus' paracardium. Needs more explanations to account for how a guy who is not just near death, but possibly drugged would elude guards at the tomb, or the piercing of his side, etc. Do you accept these points? Serious question. If you reject anything other than the literal resurrection, it would help for you to clarify.
Medicine doesn't seem reasonable to me, and on its own is strictly unnecessary. The swoon theory works no worse without it.
This doesn't really follow from anything or provide any particular insight into the question of Jesus' apparent resurrection. Christians will be more than happy to assert that Jesus did in fact die.
>>78126579
>i know what you're getting at
No, you purposedfully ignore it, this is no philosophy, you simply cannot observe certain things like xray without the proper equipment, so it is logical to assume there are things you cannot observe as you don't have and perhaps will never have equipment for them.
Your idiocy and purposedful denial of reality are this plain.
>>78126851
To avoid confusion-
>This doesn't really follow from anything or provide any particular insight into the question of Jesus' apparent resurrection. Christians will be more than happy to assert that Jesus did in fact die.
Is not meant to address you whole post, but only
>no living organism can live forever, DNA prevents this, and so do many other factors.
>>78120539
/thread
>>78126851
>No. Not to be a child about this, but I asked you first.
I answered your question, you are changing goalposts.
You haven't answered how Mary had Jesus, and i guess you don't have to, science and observation explains this just fine.
If you want to say Jesus came back due to an inhibited state, such as medicine or some other way, that is a claim that might have scientific backing. Modern surgery practice has many accounts of people coming back from clinical death.
I don't really know why you can't tell me how you think Jesus was born however. You've chosen to tackle something with flimsy scientific backing into the realm of probability instead.
Understandable.
>>78126901
What am i ignoring?
Logic is a universal truth.
Logic demands evidence.
>>78123344
>Matthew 10:25 .....deliberate blasphemy
Spain confirmed for satanists.
Here is the actual verse.
It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
That does not mean what you implied. It means, that if the master of the house(be it the father, mother, CEO, chairman etc) is a terrible, evil person, than what should you expect of anyone that serves under them?
Nothing but the same. It's a warning. But you knew that already, didn't you foul creature?
You are just trying to troll others into the hell you have already made your destination.
Begone. In the name of Christ.
>>78118265
Thank you guyz for the support this is realy appreciated much love !
>>78126901
Easily controlled by the desires of your flesh you are. Devoured by them you will be. Restrain them with prayer and fasting compelled you may be but without all the consolation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JskztPPSJwY
Ditching thread.
>>78122328
>Wrath isn't a deadly sin
>>78127199
>If you want to say Jesus came back due to an inhibited state, such as medicine or some other way, that is a claim that might have scientific backing. Modern surgery practice has many accounts of people coming back from clinical death.
How he appeared to come back the above explains. Unfortunately this doesn't account for all of the data. I posed a number of instances where your explanation is unsatisfactory untoward fantastical. You similarly need to account for a wounded and now possibly drugged Jesus could roll a stone away from his tomb (or else explain away the account of the stone) and absconded with himself under the watch of a Roman guard.
Swoon theory accounts only for the empty tomb and it barely does so. Your proposal is lacking in explanatory power. All medicine does for the swoon theory is explain how a professional executioner could have mistaken Jesus for dead.
You need to elaborate further because medicine + swoon theory accounts for a portion of the data. Example: Is it possible to assume Jesus' brother James would have mistaken Christ for gloriously resurrected that he too would carry Jesus' message unto his own death, IF we're too assume medicine+swoon? Possible? Absolutely. Reasonable? Not really. You need to provide further explanation for how James could be so convinced.
>>78127199
>You've chosen to tackle something with flimsy scientific backing into the realm of probability instead.
I picked it because Christianity stands and falls entirely on the resurrection. We can get to your question, but in this context it seems far more reasonable for us to debate the resurrection and empty tomb, which as far as ancient history goes, is remarkably well documented, opposed to Jesus' conception, of which accounts are fewer, and farther removed from the event.
>>78128003
peace
