why do republicans want to let islamists buy guns?
>>78049993
How do you propose to stop them without infringing the rights of everyone else in a nation that has half a billion unregistered firearms already in circulation?
i think a better question is why does anyone want a constitutionally-secured natural right to be denied to them without due process?
remember: the only thing between you and slavery is a constitutional amendment
>>78049993
Because terrorist watchlists are insufficient (no-fly list etc) and you cant really take away a right with only suspicion rather than concrete evidence.
how does the government know so much about me that I'm on a watchlist in the first place? maybe they should stop spying on people
>>78050167
Because by that logic anyone and everyone has the right to power to mow down 50 people in the span of a minute.
Whats your solution to this, present, happening right now, non-hypothetical problem? Because thats what we need immediattly.
>>78050126
by this logic, your rights are "infringed" any time you apply for a passport, a car loan, a job etc. etc. awww, you poor oppressed baby.
>>78050167
remember, the only thing between you and a grave is an islamist who stopped by a gun show.
>>78050968
That's quite possibly the most retarded thing anyone has ever said on 4chan.
Congratulations.
This is why there won't be any new gun control.
>>78050968
>resorting to namecalling in a civil discussion
This is why nobody likes SJWs
>>78050365
you're on a watchlist? Plz go straight to Gitmo.
>>78051338
idiot
>>78051076
I'm confused - didn't they use guns and explosives in Paris? Do they have gun shows in France?
>>78051295
You're the one who wants islamists to have guns because you don't want to be inconvenienced by a background check.
>>78050968
Ahhaha that lack of an argument
>>78051076
freedom > safety
cuck
>>78049993
>SHALL
>NOT
>BE
>INFRINGED
>>78051565
>guns
We have back round checks. He passed them all you faggot.
The problem is we don't profile like jizzreal
>>78049993
They're cucked and stupid. Next question?
>>78049993
why does CNN ask a very select few people then claim all of america wants it?
>>78049993
Why do democrats want to let islamists into the country?
>>78050926
no, you never have that right. that's asinine and alarmist. not an argument.
>>78051076
>the gun show loophole meme
literally propaganda
>>78051565
I exist in reality, where background checks don't hinder islamists from arming themselves, but do wrongfully deny thousands of law abiding Americans each year.
>>78050167
the solution already exists, faggot. exercise your rights.
carry a gun, shoot back.
>Allowing shitpost threads on /pol/
>Ever
This is why this place is shit
>>78049993
It would be nice if people would actually know how you end up on these watchlists, how many people are on them, etc etc.
>>78052069
Why does /pol/ use image macros made by a handful of retards and claim that they stand up to rigorous peer review?
Wait what? How could something like this possibly be a bad thing? Can someone explain this to me?
>>78050214
/thread
>>78052376
>Why does /pol/ use image macros made by a handful of retards and claim that they stand up to rigorous peer review?
they don't, its shitposters that post those dumb "really makes you think, heres a picture of some half truth"
If you can't be trusted to carry a gun without going around shooting people then you don't belong in a civilized society. It's that simple. It's a sad thought but the reality is that you can't have any freedom in a country where civilized and uncivilized people live together and are treated like equals.
Think about it. The implementation of policies that promotes freedom will have the effect of driving out the unwanted. In other words, the process of paving a safe road towards gun rights will force us to first send all the uncivilized people in to ghettos where they can't hurt anyone but each other, while the rest of the country enjoys their safety, justice and freedom in peace.
Also about the mental health problem list and the terrorist watch list. Who do you think will end up on that list? You or Muslims? You of course
>>78052341
whoah this gun is so scary i am now hillary artillery
we need to close the gunshow loophole where all white racist kkk rednecks sell rocket launchers to islamic terrorists
ha ha conservatard hunters you're personally responsible for the writing of the quran that calls for killing homosexuals, i know this because a licensed security guard shot someone
>>78049993
> asking favor/oppose questions about laws currently on the books that nobody is trying to overturn
lol well kiked
>>78050926
What problem is that exactly? If we use a conservative estimate of 80 million legal gun owners, that's 79,999,999 who haven't used their guns to shoot up a gay club and kill 50 people.
If use the most recent crime data from the FBI, we had about 9000 firearm murders in 2014. Those fifty murdered represent less than .5% of all murders likely to happen this year.
Mass shootings and mass shooters are essentially a non issue in this country. Statistically insignificant.
>>78052559
pretty much this. if you can't be trusted with a gun, you belong in stewardship. sweden has a guardian system, doesn't it? the united states mostly just puts people on probation or throws them in prison. if the law allowed it we could assign custodians to people who can't demonstrate self-control in public, and make that person responsible for signing the ATF form 4473. naturally the custodian would also be responsible for preventing this person, who isn't a suspect just is anti-social for some reason, from engaging in a private firearms sale. it should not be trivially easy to end up in this program, but if one did, note that supervised exercise of your rights is still exercise of your rights.
>>78050926
Even without an ak he could have used other methods to mass kill people. How about preventing people with those kind of tendencies from becoming citizens in the first place?
>>78052466
Try reading the thread cock boy. Watch lists are just suspicions, not evidence, that could prevent gun purchases. FBI could put a million people on the no-fly list for no good reason and now they are prevented from their second amendment right.
>>78049993
>why do republicans want to let islamists buy guns?
1: Due process.
2: Shall not be infringed.
>>78052919
Name one identifiable mental illness that causes people to have a greater tendency to murder
>>78053026
that's the other angle of the issue. he was born afghani, to afghan parents, within US borders. he should not automatically be made a US citizen. that just isn't good enough. his children should be automatic citizens, maybe, but he should be required to apply.
that would have been one more flag on his background checks to ensure the bureaucracy looks into any personal ties/sympathies he has to a foreign state, as those are from time to time recognized only as terrorist/rogue states by the US.
further, obviously, his parents shouldn't have been allowed to stay indefinitely. and we need a moratorium right now to stop this 20+ year long cycle from repeating itself a dozen times over.
>>78053369
being a fucking nigger
>>78053539
Niggers don't belong in a civilized society. I think I made that point very clear in my other comment.
>>78049993
People on the terrorist watch list have no due process. No American should not be denied their rights without due process.
>>78049993
So they can meet them in honorable combat.
>>78049993
if people realized how retarded your terrorist watchlist is, the numbers would go to 50/50 instantly. they're just spooked by the spooky term
We don't, it's just that we respect something called due process of law.
>>78050926
>Because by that logic anyone and everyone has the right to power to mow down 50 people in the span of a minute.
protip: they already do.
anybody can buy some nitrate based fertilizer and build some neat homemade bomb in his garage, then put it in his car and blow the thing up in a public place.
